There is an anti-humanistic, U.N. controled, globalist agenda that is working towards stealing away every nation's Sovereignty, Independence, Authority, Rights, and Resources. The U.N. is undermining every nation's sovereignty, and is usurping, and stealing away our authority over our own Natural resources !!!. Fight against the corrupt, treasonous, anti-humanistic, globalist, U.N. agenda !!!. Fight the NWO !!!. Denounce and Abolish the U.N. !!!.
International trade helps gains by specialization through trade. If we specialize in making one cars and another country specializes in making clocks, we can trade them cars for clocks and make it more efficiently for everyone. Both parties actually gain from it cause they don't have to waste time trying to do two products, they become an expert in making one.
This has been a brief explanation of gains from trade.
The reason that those countries are facing such desperate situations is because our culture relies on a class of people who are essentially "slave" labor. Our economy, which was once regionalized and is now globalized, can not support everyone being well employeed, it never has. What we are witnessing now is this model, which goes beyond a type of government (IE, democrat, socialist, communist, etc), on a global scale. The answer is for us, as a human world, to be regonial tribes.
@greenguy415 So basically, you want to eliminate global trade. That's a terrible idea, because trade is, by definition, a good thing and is the only lasting, contributing factor towards increase in standard of living.
@greenguy415 Sorry, you could not be more wrong. but, look at history since ancient times prosperity came from trade.There was trade from China, India,through the middle east to Rome. War, causes famine, economic failure, poor quality of life. We need to stop trying to start wars everywhere! and concentrate on working and providing products for trade. Heck, where do you think the three wise men came from?? Have you ever read "The Art of War" by Sun Tzu. Read it.
@humblaznlv Your right about free trade being prosperity in the past, but globalization changes all of that, also War is used by the ruling class to gain profits. It's funny how people who don't own businesses themselves advocate business more than anyone. the religion of free market capitalism. If you believe taxation is theft than you can't have a government. You guys want to be slaves to business but not to government, well we are all slaves to both right now including those poor countries.
@LJAR However, finding a leader with what I know to be proper leadership qualities is not as much as a lateral move as people think. See many managerial personalities in organizations.
@LJAR I am assuming you love your job? most people don't like their jobs, teachers I have talked to are having a nightmare, along with low wage workers, voluntarism is good, but don't forget when you enter work your boss is in charge he owns you for that time being. You are also right about government restricting freedom but it's because they indoctrinated enough people in order to maintain that much power.
@Tethloach1 Thanks for your comments. But first I would tell you also to read "The Art of War". Then come back with a little more information. Next, what part of my comment did you not understand. Since the beginning of history the world has had "Global Trade". And the world survived all this time. What do you think Columbus was doing??? He was looking for new trade routs to India.
@Tethloach1 Also his expedition was financed by the Queen of Spain and paid by GOLD. What you call capitalism is actually Corporatism. That is when Unprincipled corporations and unprincipled politicians are sharing titles. Example sitting board members of Monsanto get appointed to head the FDA. Or, The sitting vice president is also a board member of Haliburton a major defense contractor. And taxation is part of the reason the citizens of the colonies waged a war against
@Tethloach1 the oppressive government of the king. Did you not Study your history??!! Income tax in this country did come about until 1913 the same time the creation of the Federal Reserve!!! I'm guessing your young, and this is why you don't understand the simple history of these things. And as a business owner I can assure no one is a slave to me. The people are over taxed, over regulated,overburdened,and have lost their basic freedoms.
@humblaznlv You own a business? You do know the federal reserve is owned by private investors right? What sense does it make limiting the wealth of your citizens if you collect tax's from them, in fact if I was a king I would want you guys to be as rich as possible so I can tax a chunk of that. Government's need business to increase their wealth, Great Britain, France, USA, and China all these nations are very wealthy.
@Tethloach1 Two things real quick. One the Federal Reserve is a private corporation owned and ran by people, whose identity we the tax payer are not allowed to know! They refuse to be held accountable for anything, they refuse to answer to anyone!! And those same people also own the IMF,and the World Bank. And they are trying to get total control of the world food and water supply !!! Do you understand what we are up against!!? gotta go kid. Go do some studying.
@Tethloach1 They already control most of the wealth of the world. They power hungry control freaks. The only thing standing in their way is The American people and our Constitution!! Listen, America has standing army of 2 million, but a population of over 300 million of whom about 100 or more are armed. It's easy to figure out who wins that fight. So they control us through population control.
@humblaznlv well no their army would obviously be NATO and they can crash america's economy and it's dollar and the stock market easily, if you control the money you control the people, if you own the gold you own the wealth, good luck with a gold standard when you don't even own the gold.
@Tethloach1 (By own the wealth) I mean you won peoples perception of wealth, people put faith in useless metals/ or paper so you control them, it's all a game the best players have the most money, and everyone else is their slave threw labour and work. I can careless if you own all the money in the world, or the governments or the military, or the food because we live under tyranny and it can't get worst. it can only get better, people will wake up and that will be it.
@Tethloach1 Convincing us through their owned media, that it is best for the planet. By controlling the food supply(Monsanto and their seeds) food regulation telling us what we can and cannot eat.
@Tethloach1 When I say burdened, I mean they have a $17 Trillion debt placed upon them, by people that do not represent them. For things they did not want. This is called" Taxation without Representation"!! I don't think you understand the full scope of what has happened here. The fox is not only guarding the hen house, after killing and raiding the hen house, they have given the hen's a bill and are demanding payment !!!
@thesparitan 3rd countries are under mercy of world bank. The world bank is more envious ,and greedy than fed. they load up counties with ton of debt. this stuck a lot wealth that is produce in the country out of the country cause million starve and die. The world bank change it deficit reserve requirements form 10 to 8. Japan had the lowest reserves so it first to go into depression, then Mexico, then us. mega pump and dump schemes causing a world wide depression.
@thesparitan the problem with centralized can create boom and bust at will and give bailouts to bankers. boom and bust cycles are pump and dump schemes. boom and bust cause damage to financial industry because the banking cartel need to loan at below cost so bail form a centralized bank is need centralized bank are private. how ever over time government have force them work public good which mean following the law supply and demand which healthy free markets do anyway.
American citizens need to wake up. "Sinvey" says human nature is to put themselves first. . . and that's why free economies don't work? Sinvey are politicians not humans? Their nature is also to put themselves first. I'd you look out for yourself and I lookout for myself. As I see fit I will help those in need, and be responsible, even if you are not. A government controlled market never allows me the opportunity to do that.
@slntrner55 Yes , but The large Corporations have hi-jacked our government. The have taken over. Like I said, we have sitting chairmen of Monsanto heading and making policy on the FDA. Appointed by the president!! How is this not colossally conflict of interest?!!This is going on in every aspect of industry and government. THIS IS WHY WE NEED CHANGE!!
People havent noticed our cops have been disappearing for the last 20 years and being replaced and the government put our military dumped in the dump oh, could it be they were singled out maybe loyalists or something uh.
The end of the vid is sad but may be true if the U.S. government goes on acting as during the past 70 years, with his four-dimensional mistake : 1) military interventionism ; 2) corporatism ; 3) socialism ; 4) indebtedness.
cetera parabus. what ur not taking into acct is that much of the regulation u speak of in africa r austerity measures imposed by the un which open the door to robber barrons. and the poverty in socialist countries such as venuzuela which i notice is @ top of list b, result from unfair trade policies of capitoldom
When banks are required to hold more capital, when lending to the “risky” citizen, than when lending to the "infallible" sovereign, there is no economic-freedom.
@bmac6446 I would disagree, Instead the wealthier the market(people) the more freedom they have in comparison to other regions. Average individual wealth is very important.
@Tethloach1 You are making a circular argument. How do the people become wealthy without the freedom to act upon their choices? The two go hand in hand. Controlled markets lends to controlled freedoms. The market is simply the exchange between people. When this exchange is controlled then those choices are also controlled and not free. Interventions by the state into market limits wealth and capital creation.
@bmac6446 "the more free the market the more free the people" Is a logical fallacy because it implies 100% of the people will be free when in fact only those with the most wealth will have access to the best while those with the least wealth have to subject themselves to a dictatorial market, when you enter work your boss owns you, and the only choice you get is to quit so have fun with that religion(freemarket). I bet you don't even own a big business.keep worshipping corporations( businesses)
I guess you didn't watch the video. If you don't like economic freedom, move to North Korea, they have a fully centrally planned economy. Have fun and send me some pictures while you're there. Oh wait you can't, the government probably wouldnt allow you to. You probably wouldn't even have access to a camera. Just for the record, this website and its free services are provided by a massive corporation named Google, you may have heard of it.
@DJDialogic, you know, what if you started your own small business? The corporate dream in America is to make it rich, yet with these crap taxes, being rich is no longer so awesome. It's socialism to steal from the hard working, smart (if corrupt) rich to give to the lazy, complaining poor. NO TAXES is the answer, fair treatment for all. the Founders taught us that taxes are bad, and regulations are bad (actually, CEOs are on the boards of Federal regulatory commissions so nothing changes.)
@eggsaladinthetub well, I don't know if you understood my viewpoint.
United States is not the second best country to live in on this list, Canada has a much bigger HDI score. It seems to me that this video tries to favourize totally free markets without taking in facts.
for example: Norway is not as free as U.S. but still it has a better HDI and "quality of life" as it is called here.
ergo; the statement in this video that the freer the market, the better the life, is wrong.
@gustavth1 Is the US market that free? I don't think so, it's controlled by those who shouldn't be able to have the control cause it inflicts the free market with their monopoly.
@TomTheDutch Quite right. The more freedom "the market" has, the more will it be exploited by those who want to put their company ahead of the competition, resulting in powerful lobbies influencing politics with the intent of shaping a nation to suit their personal gain. This is simple human nature, and it needs to be taken into consideration.
Let's be honest here - who is responsible for the recent stock market crashes that put people out of jobs? And who is profiting from them, even now?
If the last 20 years has tought me anything it's that every time we decrease taxes and regulations on the rich (and their companies) they steal large amounts of wealth from everybody else and the global markets tank leaving the poor to suffer.
Even the most elementary study of economics reveals the massive transfer of wealth to a small 1%.
WE NEED MORE REGULATION AND HIGHER TAXES ON 250K + EARNERS.
What a shame, I hope you re-evaluate what makes that transfer possible. That's where the issue lies. No one is debating that the transfer has happened.
@DjDialogic In what way do you mean that Sweden would fall into category B? According to the index put together by the heritage foundation economic freedom in Sweden is ranked 22 out of 179. Sure, state run transfer-payment programs means that a large chunk of gdp passes through the public sector but our relative high quality of life depends on an economy that is grounded in free-market and free-trade principles.
@superfushionunit Sweeden: Free health care, Free College education, high levels of social spending.
Granted all governments operate on a scale between total Communism and Capitalism but it is clear that Sweden is far closer to the Communism side. They actually believe in keeping their population educated and healthy. Not like in the US where sickness and education are often reasons for bankruptcy and debt.
Notice they didn't list any of the Middle East Countries that are poor, corrupt, war zones due to the "Free Market Oil" offered by various dictators and monarchs to greedy polluting "Free Countries".
Also notice that they didn't mention the gross imbalance of wealth and power within these "free" countries.
It is just like thieves to pat themselves on their own back while chastising their victim for not being thieves themselves.
@thesparitan LOL,, Central Banking is price fixing,, by dictating interest rates... Just like 0% interest rates would create bubbles in the mortgage marked. Because artificially low Interest rates (0%) would create a artificially high demand in the marked for housing.
A marked set interest rate would have risen and offset this speculative behavior when the lack capital was evident. YES FRB isn't helping,,, but the cause to all problem is Central Economic Planning,, IT DOESN'T WORK.
@thesparitan fractional reserve banking existed in the Free Banking Era from Andrew Jackson to Lincoln. Milton Friedman was a Monetarist, which is less free market than people like Austrians or more classical liberal. Countires in the third world have less economic freedom, and a central bank wouldn't help them. Also, milton friedman argued that our central bank caused the great depression.
@bdg323 No he doesn't believe it caused the great depression, he believe that it could have prevented the great depression if they keep inflation and money supply high, he even argued for helicoptering money into the economy. The rest of your argument is crap. Austrians are to economics what homeopaths are to chemists. I guess economics has been so filled with crap people are willing to listen to anyone these days.
@thesparitan That was his entire argument in chapter 7 of Montary History of the United States. Yes, he did say they could have prevented the great depression. Also, it is simply fact that Austrian economists are more free market than Monetarists, and they really only differ on the central bank issue. Also, what description have I made wrong in the fact that the Free banking Era had fractional reserve banking without a central bank?
@bdg323 Alright what ever, I been in alot of these conversations before and they just keep going on and on. Here watch the video I gave you and than you show me a video that supports your theories and that has good arguments for the position with evidence and examples to back up the arguments. I am willing to hear other sides and I will alter my position if proven wrong or I see a better one, but so far libertarians have not made a good argument.
@thesparitan I will review it tomorrow and send you a message on any comments on it, since I do not want to spam this video. It is 1 Am where I am at and i would like to go to bed. Is it okay that I message you with comments within the next few days?
Were is France, Germany, Norway and lets not forget that average income per person is totally useless measure of the population of a countries well being. Its funny they have none of the socialist countries that have better standards of living than the US. This is such bullshit.
@thesparitan In comparison to the lower quality contries, France, germany, and Norway are free markets. (Look up heritage foundation. they rank France pretty high in freedom in comparison to these lower quality countries) Even France's health care system is not as socialized as people think. germany has been getting better since more 'conservative' leaders took over and cutting spending and taxes.
@bdg323 Isn't Germany in an economic crisis right now, or at least trying to prevent one? Actually I don't think you can blame there current government for that but I digress. As for France if you compare it to the US, France is far more socialistic than the US would you agree? And it is a fact that in almost every measure of well being France ranks higher than the US. Here watch this watch?v=cZ7LzE3u7Bw, this should explain my position with evidence and supported by the data.
@thesparitan germany's economy is in crises? Since when? Their unemployment has been lowering for years (barely affected by the recession). Their GDP growth rate is fine over the last few months.
@bdg323 Go look it up, its been in the news for a while now. And they aren't in economic crisis yet but the euro debt issue is going to create one. GDP isn't a good indicator for economic health, but like I said I am done debating. You have an video or blog or article you want me to read that gives the best defense of your ideology? Watch the video I gave you it should be interesting and its data is sourced as well.
im sorry but you cant equate business and freedom of business with civil rights. most of which protect the individual from employer discrimination. states make laws not companies. all very well stating the facts of economies and what not but a horse without reins doesnt pull the cart. it just jumps into your garden, eats anything it likes and craps on your front doorstep. unfettered greed makes you earn more but also pay more. balance please economists.. you're not gods.
I doubt this holds up to the data. I'm from Singapore and although it's at the top of this list, it hardly matches up on the other standards that supposedly correlate with economic freedom, e.g., protection of civil rights, happiness, cleaner environments etc. Quality of life in Singapore right now hardly matches that in more socialist countries I've visited such as Denmark, and it's thought that the high income disparity, which tends to come with economic freedom, is a big reason for this.
This video has some major flaws like the lack of transparency in there data and the fact that while they defined free economy they didn't show what that actually means. It was very simplistic and usually when something is this simplistic that is usually complex someone is fucking with you. Some of the countries they even ranked higher than us are actually less free by their own standards. This video is designed for people ignorant or unwilling to do their own research.
@bjarnet3 it fails to mention the "socialist" economies of Scanadanavia which have sustained economic growth, a high quality of life and very low poverty rates.
Economic freedom isn't free. It has a cost, and it is called interest. Every rich country prospers from it more than it suffers from it, and every poor country suffers from it more than it prospers from it. The Chinese now profit from the US borrowing money and paying interest back to China. This allows China to increase its economic freedom. You see, freedom is not hard to understand. You just have to end this notion that it is something spontaneous. Freedom has to be paid for, pure and simple.
@kmarinas86 You have absolutely no clue what you're talking about. Chinese citizens are suffering because U.S is only giving them back useless papers called dollars in return for their hard work.
China "Attacks The Dollar" March 2011: The Chinese central bank surprised with a spectacular announcement: The would-be superpower wants to handle their entire future foreign trade in yuan, not in dollars. Beijing shakes America's claim to represent the key currency - with serious consequences for the U.S..[....]This will respond to the growing importance of the yuan as a global reserve currency. "The market demand for cross-border use of the yuan rises," said the central bank.
China's Move Away from the U.S. Dollar Means You Need to Invest in the Yuan June 2011: A report from Standard Chartered Bank last week showed China's foreign exchange reserves expanded by $196 billion in the first four months of this year. About 75% of that investment was in non-U.S. dollar assets. This is the biggest gap between accumulated reserves and purchased U.S. debt by China in at least five years. [....]China has taken steps to distance itself from the currency[....]
Is China Ready To Pull The Plug? September 2011: Though increasingly more rare, news on China’s push to drop the U.S. still leaks out. Recently, a top advisor to China’s central bank let slip that a plan is in place to begin “liquidating” (yes, they said liquidate) their U.S. Treasury bonds as soon as possible, and reposition national investments into more physical assets[.]
Our freedom is falling, govt is getting bigger by the minute and as a result our quality of life will fall as well. Liberalism working it's deadly magic.
The Chilean model was developed by the libertarians at the university of Chicago like Milton Friedman. One of the things I like about Cain is his plan for Social Security's future based on Chile - Much better than the Ponzi scheme that is social security.
I think leftists know these things already. They simply hate freedom for anyone but themselves. They think other people are not to be trusted with freedom because they will do things the leftist disapproves of. Above all, it's about power for the left. Don't try to convince a leftist of the righteousness of freedom. You're wasting your breath. Simply defeat them mercilessly wherever you find them. Render them powerless, and don't give them an inch for they will always take the proverbial foot
@jamo387 No you're wrong. Liberals aren't evil they simply don't know better. Free health care for everyone sounds good until you really look at it and know the facts. If they do know the facts they think the benefits outweigh the bad. I know I used to be one! We need to stop this otherism and realize people are just people.
@notyetaladie We'll have to agree to disagree there. Your assertion implies that libs are all ignorant. Of course, many are but an equal amount are fully aware of what they are doing and disguise their motives as charitable. Of course, we all know that true charity involves reaching into your own pocket. Reaching into other peoples pockets is called theft and they know damn well who they are stealing from and why.
Yes. Also, people need to notice who made this: the KOCH foundation....it's the same foundation that gave tons and tons of money to Republican candidates in 2010. The video does sound convincing though, and we need a good rebuttal.
@DritteWalpurgisnach I agree it is to simplistic. Economic freedom is one factor but they make it seem like its the only factor. For one, most of the economies on the list are European and most european countries have very strong socialist type governments so how can they be economically free? And second the US has under a right wing government for the last 30 years and we have drop in economic freedom? This video doesn't make sense, I wish they were a little more in depth in the explanation
@thesparitan "Economic freedom is one factor but they make it seem like its the only factor." That's very true. Another factor are the virtues of a countries population and it takes decades, if not centuries, to ruin a people thoroughly. Germany, for example, used to be among the pinnacle of the world in craftsmenship and intellectual brilliance, and even the welfare state, let alone Nazism and Communism, didn't manage to destroy all of that, though it clearly took a toll.
@john42t I had to laugh when I read this because of your ignorance of Germany history. Did you know that Germans in the late 1800s was the first country in the world to enact social insurance programs, old age pensions, accident insurance, medical care and unemployment insurance and became the model for the welfare state? Also the virtues of a countries population sounds like a meaningless term. BTW Germany is ahead of the more free market US in most indicator.
@thesparitan "Did you know that Germans..." Yes. So? "BTW Germany is ahead of the more free market US in most indicator." True. So? "Also the virtues of a countries population sounds like a meaningless term. " That statement is what defines leftism.
@john42t So leftism is without values? That doesn't make any sense. You sound like a person that doesn't even understand the basic arguments of your opponents. What you are talking about when you say "virtues of a population" sounds like what Hitler was talking about. In fact you sound like someone that would look fondly towards that part of German history. You use the same vernacular and you are about as ignorant and dogmatic as them. Now we are done here.
@vNorilor Yeah I know, that's where the irony comes in. He is ignorant of his own countries history. Its actually common, I am remember of histories of the US that I was unaware by people not from the US.
@vNorilor Yes he did, but that conversation is between me and him. You need not concern yourself with others business. I am sure he can defend himself.
@thesparitan As far as I can see you misread a public comment on a third party's channel and replied presumptuously. There is one way for what you're saying to make sense: you two had a second conversation not in this video's comments. If so - Ok. Otherwise, as I've said three times now, you misread his comment. I imagine you've been told before, but you are ill-mannered, and pretentious.
@vNorilor Sorry I guess I wasn't clear. I was trying to tell you that I do not care about your opinion. So you can stop commenting to me now because I am no longer reading what you say. You not in this conversation, sorry.
@DritteWalpurgisnach the only thing obvious is that you have no clue what you're talking about and I'm not gonna educate you here on youtube so if you actually cared about the subject you would go and do some reading.
The Koch brothers are being railroaded by the “progressives” because they OPPOSE the crony capitalism that people and companies like Soros, Buffet, and GE engage in. For the truth google kochfacts.
The fallacy is not seeing the selective bias of just what is presented here - it is NOT an even-handed economic comparison. Mauritus? Where is France? Spain? Italy? Argentina? Brazil? Portugal? Even Singapore with a higher median income than USA, has more central planning and government control!
" Even Singapore with a higher median income than USA, has more central planning and government control!"
Last time I checked Singapore ranked second on economic freedom index. Not saying that the index of economic freedom is the absolute truth, but the vid is using this measure to compare. you can look up the other countries you listed as well.
Chile only reduced it's poverty rate when center-to-left governments combined the liberal policies of Pinochet with social programs and investments in education. When Pinochet left office, after 17 years of pure neo-liberal policies, 45% of the Chileans were under the poverty line.
@luizcadu You socialists never run out of 'empirical examples' like that. What you never do though is explain HOW exactly do increasing taxation making the poor dependent on government welfare solve poverty. Economic logic proves that reductions in poverty result DESPITE of government interference and NOT BECAUSE of it. As for Nordic countries, there are other considerations aside from tax rates, Sweden has no tariffs!
@truevoice08 I don't consider myself a socialist. Actually I think libertarian and social policies should be combined to some extent in order to provide economic prosperity to a country. Every modern developed nation did it like this.
Taxes can be useful when it's revenues are used for providing the environment for economic prosperty (rule of law, infrastructure, education of the labour force). I aprove welfare when it lifts people out of extreme poverty and enable them to use their productive potential (it's being done here in my country, Brazil) not when it makes them dependent of govt. as you said.
@luizcadu Taxes are not necessary or practical to achieve those aims. If they were, then why not just raise taxes to 90% to produce an abundance of "public services"? Giving more power to politicians is never a solution. The nature of welfare is that it always creates perverse incentives. Its criterion for eligibility is always the "have-nots". If you take the principle that the initiation of coercion is immoral (either by the State or private groups) then it becomes clear that capitalism is WIN
@truevoice08 The only countries I know that did this with virtually no taxes and no debt are the ones who used revenues from exporting natural resources (ex. United Arab Emirates, Bahrein, Qatar, who produces 10 times more oil per capita than any oher nation). I think government size has to be in the right measure, too much (like in Cuba, Venezuela, North Korea) will kill you.
South Korea, 11th largest economic power in the world for a nation of only 50 million, very high standard of living per capita and a very LOW amount of government spending. Where does it rank on the Economic Freedom index? 35th, next to Oman, Jordan, Botswana, and Uruguay. I dont get it, this rating system has hardly anything to do with "big government".
Traditionally serious problems like corruption and bureaucracy also play into it. It isn't just keeping the government from spending too much but also a matter of ensuring reasonably honest administration. If you have to wait over a year in line to open up a small tailor shop, your economic freedom isn't very high. If the environmental inspectors are demanding bribes or they will destroy your home, you aren't free. The US has problems like that in some state. Korea has those too.
Yes it will falll they have planned it and taught the people there to be free stuff people, Brain washed them for the last almost 60years. Don't know how we can get them to think differently. It might be to late !
Ireland= big government = stale economy = 7th most economically free nation in the world!!
Go Ireland!... I mean boo Ireland! Wait, does Ireland have big government, then boo! Wait, small government? then yay! Dang, I wish I had a more consistent framework that properly correlates big government with lack of prosperity. Better luck next time though.
@koolhanddavey The concept of "economic freedom" is actually kinda mixed up with "economic efficiency". Take the rich countries from the OECD: the vast majority of them have high tax rates and big govt. spending. But they're efficient, so they score high in economic freedom.
Now take the poor subsahaaran countries: most of them have low tax rates, small government and no trade restrictions. But they fail to provide basic rule of law and infrastructure, so they score low on economic freedom.
@koolhanddavey That's what libertarians don't openly admit: in order to provide the basic environment for economic freedom (infrastructure, rule of law, educated labour force) it is required a certain amount of collectivism. The amount of that collectivism may vary according to the country's specificities and culture.
Now look, Denmark has the highest tax rates in the world and is 8th in Heritage economic freedom index. Isn't this irony at its finest?
in Greece the economic freedom has been rapidly increased in the last years but from A list will be move to B list (the quality of life is still being decreased and the estimation is that the quality of life will be like India's )
People don't be fooled. Liberalism and Socialism are just different faces of the same coin, good or evil. This video propaganda just proves this favorite quote:
"You are never dedicated to something you have complete confidence in. No-one is fanatically shouting that the sun is going to rise tomorrow. When people are fanatically devoted to political or religious faiths or any other kind of dogmas or goals, its always because these dogmas or goals are in doubt"
@henfiber Galileo was SHOUTING that the earth rotated around the sun! Are you saying that because he had to argue his case so fiercely, that he was simply dogmatic. Or was it rather that the rest of the world wasn't ready for his insights because they were not intuitive! Einstein wasn't read for the insights of Quantum Mechanics because they were not intuitive. Pirsig wasn't ready for Atheism because he failed to define 'quality' in Zen& the Art of Motorcycle maintenance. Pity for him.
@dmg46664 Thank you for this nice reply, so I can clarify. This video and its creators, use ADVERTISING principles to promote their beliefs (What I call "shouting"). The arguments presented are based on selected supporting statistics which themselves are based on correlations rather than causality. Actually, this video matches Galileo's and Einstein's opponent dogmatic argumentations and methodologies rather than Galileo's and Einstein's cause-and-effect sound scientific proof procedures.
@henfiber This work is merely a summary (advert) of heritage(.)org/index . That work is absolutely correlation! They don't claim to be otherwise. For a look at hypotheses of causation, I'd direct u 2 tinyurl(.)com/67e4qq4 . Heritage provides solid statistical correlation. For it to be false you usually have to show oppos. causation or a 3rd factor. The idea that acting freely CAUSES free policies in regimes that are not free seems absurd to me! U have a lot of work cut out4u to demonstrate that!
@henfiber 3) And another thing. I was backing Galileo NOT Einstein. Einstein backed CAUSATION when confronted by Bohr and Heisenberg who backed statistics! Quantum theory makes assumptions which have statistically predictive power but have no reasonable assumption of cause-and-effect. Just correcting you on your history of "cause-and-effect sound scientifc proof" :-)
You misunderstand. I DON'T think that government in cohoots with corporations means freedom - just the opposite. I am anti-corporatism, pro-free-market-capitalism, anti-Federal-Reserve.
Koch Brothers propaganda. Cherry picking of statistical correlations while avoiding the issue at hand. Too much linkage between corporate interests and government. The resulting corruption will eventually destroy most of the correlations in this video.
Notice that Norway was omitted from List A even though it enjoys the world's Highest Quality of Life Index, a very high Human Development Index, 2nd highest GDP, and ranks highly in all other related indices? Could this be because it's a MIXED economy where the state plays a major role. In fact, just about all of Scandinavia prospers with a high degree of state sponsorship. Why doesn't the video mention this?
I like how 'child labor rates' are a result of economic freedom, except that when corporations had the most 'freedom', child labor and exploitation was rampant in the U.S. until the government stepped in. Also, if hospital ERs had the freedom to refrain from treating patients it didn't see as "economically viable," we might not have as low an infant mortality rate. I'd also like to point out that correlation != causation.
@TheBabolat91 Actually, ERs are required to provide emergency care for everyone by a federal law passed in 1986, which was passed specifically to prevent "Patient dumping" - some ERs would not treat emergencies without proof of ability to pay, and instead sent patients elsewhere. Enough of them that a law was needed - sad but true.
@EatThePlacenta Bullshit, the reason child labor could even be banned was because there wasn't much need for it anymore. No one now would even THINK of it (banned or not) because we all have high standards of living, so we both have no need to make our children work, but we also need them to focus on higher education instead. That is all a direct result of economic freedom.
@EatThePlacenta it is also worth noting that way back in the day when child labor was allowed, wages were also at there lowest in history. sad but true. I agree, child labor would never help anything. hell you used to be able to make a living for a family of five on 1 man's salary if you had any job. Food service specifically does this the most. have you noticed how dairy queen lets little kids serve ice cream while there suposedly of the age they need to do there homework? this shit sucks!
@PeggyVenable it is more effective to reduce a wage tax to increase employment because i personally could use some money, and money that is not from my paycheck makes me cheaper to have arround and much more likely to keep my job if i show up on time every time all the time. however reducing a capital gains tax to achieve the same end is treating the symptoms of the problem. the symptom is loss of profit. sometimes i wonder how very few people in the united states know how to look past spam...
the horizontal x axis is "economic freedom". what's the incremental scale that makes this barometer "least free" to "most free"? the x axis is valueless. is left "least" and right "most" strictly bc the narrator says so. what is this based on... ooor... do they pretty much hope (safely assume) their target audience won't think to ask? y axis is based upon "the fraser institute foundation economic fredom of the world 2010 report"
I will never allow another man to coerce me do do anyhting for his sake, nor will I ever coerce another man to do anyhting for my sake. I have been coerced by men to do things for their sake. The coersion has been perpetraded on threat of loss of my freedom or my death. The threats have come from the federal government. Labor unions are coercive too. They say, I must join their union or I cannot work. Its enough to make you want to become a moonshiner and plug anybody who trespasses.
So, you can basically put any metric on the X axis that you want to propagandize as "freedom". Ironically contrasted with the Heritage foundation's tax-smashing goals, you could put that same graph, but with marginal tax rates on the highest brackets on the X axis, and IT GETS STEEPER
@zKRevolt Vicious cycle. Each successive generation loses just a little bit more of their freedoms, under the premise that it's for their own protection, in their own best interest. People are being denied the chance to learn from their mistakes and, as a result, simply do not learn.
There is an anti-humanistic, U.N. controled, globalist agenda that is working towards stealing away every nation's Sovereignty, Independence, Authority, Rights, and Resources. The U.N. is undermining every nation's sovereignty, and is usurping, and stealing away our authority over our own Natural resources !!!. Fight against the corrupt, treasonous, anti-humanistic, globalist, U.N. agenda !!!. Fight the NWO !!!. Denounce and Abolish the U.N. !!!.
shirleymae30 2 days ago
this list gotta be wrong, switzerland has never ever a lower income than the US ...
MoSxyxnr24 6 days ago
International trade helps gains by specialization through trade. If we specialize in making one cars and another country specializes in making clocks, we can trade them cars for clocks and make it more efficiently for everyone. Both parties actually gain from it cause they don't have to waste time trying to do two products, they become an expert in making one.
This has been a brief explanation of gains from trade.
Free trade, free people.
jefeller 1 month ago 10
The reason that those countries are facing such desperate situations is because our culture relies on a class of people who are essentially "slave" labor. Our economy, which was once regionalized and is now globalized, can not support everyone being well employeed, it never has. What we are witnessing now is this model, which goes beyond a type of government (IE, democrat, socialist, communist, etc), on a global scale. The answer is for us, as a human world, to be regonial tribes.
greenguy415 1 month ago
@greenguy415 So basically, you want to eliminate global trade. That's a terrible idea, because trade is, by definition, a good thing and is the only lasting, contributing factor towards increase in standard of living.
Dsengerer 1 month ago
@greenguy415 Sorry, you could not be more wrong. but, look at history since ancient times prosperity came from trade.There was trade from China, India,through the middle east to Rome. War, causes famine, economic failure, poor quality of life. We need to stop trying to start wars everywhere! and concentrate on working and providing products for trade. Heck, where do you think the three wise men came from?? Have you ever read "The Art of War" by Sun Tzu. Read it.
humblaznlv 1 week ago
@humblaznlv Your right about free trade being prosperity in the past, but globalization changes all of that, also War is used by the ruling class to gain profits. It's funny how people who don't own businesses themselves advocate business more than anyone. the religion of free market capitalism. If you believe taxation is theft than you can't have a government. You guys want to be slaves to business but not to government, well we are all slaves to both right now including those poor countries.
Tethloach1 1 week ago
@Tethloach1 I can always quit my job and set up my own business, or find a boss that I like more.
governmets wont let me do that to them, if I try they put me in prison.
LJAR 6 days ago
@LJAR However, finding a leader with what I know to be proper leadership qualities is not as much as a lateral move as people think. See many managerial personalities in organizations.
capgains 6 days ago
@capgains true, but the point I was making is that my involvement with a business is voluntary and I can always leave or choose to set up my own.
doing that with government is a bit more difficult.
LJAR 6 days ago
@LJAR I am assuming you love your job? most people don't like their jobs, teachers I have talked to are having a nightmare, along with low wage workers, voluntarism is good, but don't forget when you enter work your boss is in charge he owns you for that time being. You are also right about government restricting freedom but it's because they indoctrinated enough people in order to maintain that much power.
Tethloach1 6 days ago
@Tethloach1 Thanks for your comments. But first I would tell you also to read "The Art of War". Then come back with a little more information. Next, what part of my comment did you not understand. Since the beginning of history the world has had "Global Trade". And the world survived all this time. What do you think Columbus was doing??? He was looking for new trade routs to India.
humblaznlv 6 days ago
@Tethloach1 Also his expedition was financed by the Queen of Spain and paid by GOLD. What you call capitalism is actually Corporatism. That is when Unprincipled corporations and unprincipled politicians are sharing titles. Example sitting board members of Monsanto get appointed to head the FDA. Or, The sitting vice president is also a board member of Haliburton a major defense contractor. And taxation is part of the reason the citizens of the colonies waged a war against
humblaznlv 6 days ago
@Tethloach1 the oppressive government of the king. Did you not Study your history??!! Income tax in this country did come about until 1913 the same time the creation of the Federal Reserve!!! I'm guessing your young, and this is why you don't understand the simple history of these things. And as a business owner I can assure no one is a slave to me. The people are over taxed, over regulated,overburdened,and have lost their basic freedoms.
humblaznlv 6 days ago
@humblaznlv You own a business? You do know the federal reserve is owned by private investors right? What sense does it make limiting the wealth of your citizens if you collect tax's from them, in fact if I was a king I would want you guys to be as rich as possible so I can tax a chunk of that. Government's need business to increase their wealth, Great Britain, France, USA, and China all these nations are very wealthy.
Tethloach1 6 days ago
@Tethloach1 Two things real quick. One the Federal Reserve is a private corporation owned and ran by people, whose identity we the tax payer are not allowed to know! They refuse to be held accountable for anything, they refuse to answer to anyone!! And those same people also own the IMF,and the World Bank. And they are trying to get total control of the world food and water supply !!! Do you understand what we are up against!!? gotta go kid. Go do some studying.
humblaznlv 5 days ago
@Tethloach1 They already control most of the wealth of the world. They power hungry control freaks. The only thing standing in their way is The American people and our Constitution!! Listen, America has standing army of 2 million, but a population of over 300 million of whom about 100 or more are armed. It's easy to figure out who wins that fight. So they control us through population control.
humblaznlv 5 days ago
@humblaznlv well no their army would obviously be NATO and they can crash america's economy and it's dollar and the stock market easily, if you control the money you control the people, if you own the gold you own the wealth, good luck with a gold standard when you don't even own the gold.
Tethloach1 5 days ago
@Tethloach1 (By own the wealth) I mean you won peoples perception of wealth, people put faith in useless metals/ or paper so you control them, it's all a game the best players have the most money, and everyone else is their slave threw labour and work. I can careless if you own all the money in the world, or the governments or the military, or the food because we live under tyranny and it can't get worst. it can only get better, people will wake up and that will be it.
Tethloach1 5 days ago
@Tethloach1 Convincing us through their owned media, that it is best for the planet. By controlling the food supply(Monsanto and their seeds) food regulation telling us what we can and cannot eat.
humblaznlv 5 days ago
@Tethloach1 When I say burdened, I mean they have a $17 Trillion debt placed upon them, by people that do not represent them. For things they did not want. This is called" Taxation without Representation"!! I don't think you understand the full scope of what has happened here. The fox is not only guarding the hen house, after killing and raiding the hen house, they have given the hen's a bill and are demanding payment !!!
humblaznlv 6 days ago
@thesparitan 3rd countries are under mercy of world bank. The world bank is more envious ,and greedy than fed. they load up counties with ton of debt. this stuck a lot wealth that is produce in the country out of the country cause million starve and die. The world bank change it deficit reserve requirements form 10 to 8. Japan had the lowest reserves so it first to go into depression, then Mexico, then us. mega pump and dump schemes causing a world wide depression.
spark300c 1 month ago
@thesparitan the problem with centralized can create boom and bust at will and give bailouts to bankers. boom and bust cycles are pump and dump schemes. boom and bust cause damage to financial industry because the banking cartel need to loan at below cost so bail form a centralized bank is need centralized bank are private. how ever over time government have force them work public good which mean following the law supply and demand which healthy free markets do anyway.
spark300c 1 month ago
Could anyone please explain to me why is it that the OCDE economies, considered the "freest", are the ones with the higher tax rates in the world?
luizcadu 1 month ago
American citizens need to wake up. "Sinvey" says human nature is to put themselves first. . . and that's why free economies don't work? Sinvey are politicians not humans? Their nature is also to put themselves first. I'd you look out for yourself and I lookout for myself. As I see fit I will help those in need, and be responsible, even if you are not. A government controlled market never allows me the opportunity to do that.
slntrner55 1 month ago
@slntrner55 Yes , but The large Corporations have hi-jacked our government. The have taken over. Like I said, we have sitting chairmen of Monsanto heading and making policy on the FDA. Appointed by the president!! How is this not colossally conflict of interest?!!This is going on in every aspect of industry and government. THIS IS WHY WE NEED CHANGE!!
humblaznlv 6 days ago
how come only white countries have so much peace and human rights? If you look at the stats its overwhelming. I thought white people were the devil?
KripDrip 2 months ago in playlist Insightful videos
People havent noticed our cops have been disappearing for the last 20 years and being replaced and the government put our military dumped in the dump oh, could it be they were singled out maybe loyalists or something uh.
TheGregcessna 2 months ago
The end of the vid is sad but may be true if the U.S. government goes on acting as during the past 70 years, with his four-dimensional mistake : 1) military interventionism ; 2) corporatism ; 3) socialism ; 4) indebtedness.
TheThreeHundredHemi 2 months ago
cetera parabus. what ur not taking into acct is that much of the regulation u speak of in africa r austerity measures imposed by the un which open the door to robber barrons. and the poverty in socialist countries such as venuzuela which i notice is @ top of list b, result from unfair trade policies of capitoldom
luciferangelica 2 months ago
When banks are required to hold more capital, when lending to the “risky” citizen, than when lending to the "infallible" sovereign, there is no economic-freedom.
perkurowski 2 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos
It is a matter of historical fact: The more free the markets the more free the people.
bmac6446 2 months ago 12
@bmac6446 I would disagree, Instead the wealthier the market(people) the more freedom they have in comparison to other regions. Average individual wealth is very important.
Tethloach1 6 days ago
@Tethloach1 You are making a circular argument. How do the people become wealthy without the freedom to act upon their choices? The two go hand in hand. Controlled markets lends to controlled freedoms. The market is simply the exchange between people. When this exchange is controlled then those choices are also controlled and not free. Interventions by the state into market limits wealth and capital creation.
bmac6446 5 days ago
@bmac6446 "the more free the market the more free the people" Is a logical fallacy because it implies 100% of the people will be free when in fact only those with the most wealth will have access to the best while those with the least wealth have to subject themselves to a dictatorial market, when you enter work your boss owns you, and the only choice you get is to quit so have fun with that religion(freemarket). I bet you don't even own a big business.keep worshipping corporations( businesses)
Tethloach1 5 days ago
@Tethloach1
I guess you didn't watch the video. If you don't like economic freedom, move to North Korea, they have a fully centrally planned economy. Have fun and send me some pictures while you're there. Oh wait you can't, the government probably wouldnt allow you to. You probably wouldn't even have access to a camera. Just for the record, this website and its free services are provided by a massive corporation named Google, you may have heard of it.
ApocDevTeam 5 days ago
@DJDialogic, you know, what if you started your own small business? The corporate dream in America is to make it rich, yet with these crap taxes, being rich is no longer so awesome. It's socialism to steal from the hard working, smart (if corrupt) rich to give to the lazy, complaining poor. NO TAXES is the answer, fair treatment for all. the Founders taught us that taxes are bad, and regulations are bad (actually, CEOs are on the boards of Federal regulatory commissions so nothing changes.)
playmaka2007 2 months ago
I quite like you let out Norway in this test.
Is that because they have not a specifically free market?
gustavth1 2 months ago
@gustavth1 It was excluded because capitalism only promotes effectiveness, not quality.
eggsaladinthetub 2 months ago
@eggsaladinthetub well, I don't know if you understood my viewpoint.
United States is not the second best country to live in on this list, Canada has a much bigger HDI score. It seems to me that this video tries to favourize totally free markets without taking in facts.
for example: Norway is not as free as U.S. but still it has a better HDI and "quality of life" as it is called here.
ergo; the statement in this video that the freer the market, the better the life, is wrong.
gustavth1 2 months ago
@gustavth1 Norway less free then U.S.? Lol.
TomTheDutch 2 months ago
@TomTheDutch economically speaking of course
gustavth1 2 months ago
@gustavth1 No.. Just no..
TomTheDutch 2 months ago
@TomTheDutch sooo, you say that a totally free market is less free than very state controlled market?
#logic
gustavth1 2 months ago
@gustavth1 Is the US market that free? I don't think so, it's controlled by those who shouldn't be able to have the control cause it inflicts the free market with their monopoly.
TomTheDutch 2 months ago
@TomTheDutch Quite right. The more freedom "the market" has, the more will it be exploited by those who want to put their company ahead of the competition, resulting in powerful lobbies influencing politics with the intent of shaping a nation to suit their personal gain. This is simple human nature, and it needs to be taken into consideration.
Let's be honest here - who is responsible for the recent stock market crashes that put people out of jobs? And who is profiting from them, even now?
Sinvey 2 months ago
@gustavth1 sorry for my poor english but i think you'll understand me.
TomTheDutch 2 months ago
If the last 20 years has tought me anything it's that every time we decrease taxes and regulations on the rich (and their companies) they steal large amounts of wealth from everybody else and the global markets tank leaving the poor to suffer.
Even the most elementary study of economics reveals the massive transfer of wealth to a small 1%.
WE NEED MORE REGULATION AND HIGHER TAXES ON 250K + EARNERS.
DjDialogic 2 months ago
@DjDialogic
What a shame, I hope you re-evaluate what makes that transfer possible. That's where the issue lies. No one is debating that the transfer has happened.
mitchbroderick 2 months ago
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ScottCarhoun 2 months ago
My list includes these countries:
A: Mexico, Columbia, Iraq,
B: Sweden, France, China (Next global supper power?)
This is just more Republican BS. They always cherry pick their info in an attempt to frame the argument toward their favor.
DjDialogic 3 months ago
@DjDialogic In what way do you mean that Sweden would fall into category B? According to the index put together by the heritage foundation economic freedom in Sweden is ranked 22 out of 179. Sure, state run transfer-payment programs means that a large chunk of gdp passes through the public sector but our relative high quality of life depends on an economy that is grounded in free-market and free-trade principles.
superfushionunit 3 months ago
@superfushionunit Sweeden: Free health care, Free College education, high levels of social spending.
Granted all governments operate on a scale between total Communism and Capitalism but it is clear that Sweden is far closer to the Communism side. They actually believe in keeping their population educated and healthy. Not like in the US where sickness and education are often reasons for bankruptcy and debt.
DjDialogic 2 months ago
Notice they didn't list any of the Middle East Countries that are poor, corrupt, war zones due to the "Free Market Oil" offered by various dictators and monarchs to greedy polluting "Free Countries".
Also notice that they didn't mention the gross imbalance of wealth and power within these "free" countries.
It is just like thieves to pat themselves on their own back while chastising their victim for not being thieves themselves.
DjDialogic 3 months ago
@DjDialogic Well stated.
thesparitan 2 months ago
Our quality of life has already fallen.
apell711 3 months ago
@thesparitan LOL,, Central Banking is price fixing,, by dictating interest rates... Just like 0% interest rates would create bubbles in the mortgage marked. Because artificially low Interest rates (0%) would create a artificially high demand in the marked for housing.
A marked set interest rate would have risen and offset this speculative behavior when the lack capital was evident. YES FRB isn't helping,,, but the cause to all problem is Central Economic Planning,, IT DOESN'T WORK.
bjarnet3 3 months ago
@thesparitan fractional reserve banking existed in the Free Banking Era from Andrew Jackson to Lincoln. Milton Friedman was a Monetarist, which is less free market than people like Austrians or more classical liberal. Countires in the third world have less economic freedom, and a central bank wouldn't help them. Also, milton friedman argued that our central bank caused the great depression.
bdg323 3 months ago
@bdg323 No he doesn't believe it caused the great depression, he believe that it could have prevented the great depression if they keep inflation and money supply high, he even argued for helicoptering money into the economy. The rest of your argument is crap. Austrians are to economics what homeopaths are to chemists. I guess economics has been so filled with crap people are willing to listen to anyone these days.
thesparitan 3 months ago
@thesparitan That was his entire argument in chapter 7 of Montary History of the United States. Yes, he did say they could have prevented the great depression. Also, it is simply fact that Austrian economists are more free market than Monetarists, and they really only differ on the central bank issue. Also, what description have I made wrong in the fact that the Free banking Era had fractional reserve banking without a central bank?
bdg323 3 months ago
@bdg323 Alright what ever, I been in alot of these conversations before and they just keep going on and on. Here watch the video I gave you and than you show me a video that supports your theories and that has good arguments for the position with evidence and examples to back up the arguments. I am willing to hear other sides and I will alter my position if proven wrong or I see a better one, but so far libertarians have not made a good argument.
thesparitan 3 months ago
@thesparitan I will review it tomorrow and send you a message on any comments on it, since I do not want to spam this video. It is 1 Am where I am at and i would like to go to bed. Is it okay that I message you with comments within the next few days?
bdg323 3 months ago in playlist More videos from EconFree
Were is France, Germany, Norway and lets not forget that average income per person is totally useless measure of the population of a countries well being. Its funny they have none of the socialist countries that have better standards of living than the US. This is such bullshit.
thesparitan 3 months ago
@thesparitan In comparison to the lower quality contries, France, germany, and Norway are free markets. (Look up heritage foundation. they rank France pretty high in freedom in comparison to these lower quality countries) Even France's health care system is not as socialized as people think. germany has been getting better since more 'conservative' leaders took over and cutting spending and taxes.
bdg323 3 months ago
@bdg323 Isn't Germany in an economic crisis right now, or at least trying to prevent one? Actually I don't think you can blame there current government for that but I digress. As for France if you compare it to the US, France is far more socialistic than the US would you agree? And it is a fact that in almost every measure of well being France ranks higher than the US. Here watch this watch?v=cZ7LzE3u7Bw, this should explain my position with evidence and supported by the data.
thesparitan 3 months ago
@thesparitan germany's economy is in crises? Since when? Their unemployment has been lowering for years (barely affected by the recession). Their GDP growth rate is fine over the last few months.
bdg323 3 months ago in playlist More videos from EconFree
@bdg323 Go look it up, its been in the news for a while now. And they aren't in economic crisis yet but the euro debt issue is going to create one. GDP isn't a good indicator for economic health, but like I said I am done debating. You have an video or blog or article you want me to read that gives the best defense of your ideology? Watch the video I gave you it should be interesting and its data is sourced as well.
watch?v=cZ7LzE3u7Bw
thesparitan 3 months ago
im sorry but you cant equate business and freedom of business with civil rights. most of which protect the individual from employer discrimination. states make laws not companies. all very well stating the facts of economies and what not but a horse without reins doesnt pull the cart. it just jumps into your garden, eats anything it likes and craps on your front doorstep. unfettered greed makes you earn more but also pay more. balance please economists.. you're not gods.
rsolgtp 3 months ago
I doubt this holds up to the data. I'm from Singapore and although it's at the top of this list, it hardly matches up on the other standards that supposedly correlate with economic freedom, e.g., protection of civil rights, happiness, cleaner environments etc. Quality of life in Singapore right now hardly matches that in more socialist countries I've visited such as Denmark, and it's thought that the high income disparity, which tends to come with economic freedom, is a big reason for this.
quaskx 3 months ago
This video has some major flaws like the lack of transparency in there data and the fact that while they defined free economy they didn't show what that actually means. It was very simplistic and usually when something is this simplistic that is usually complex someone is fucking with you. Some of the countries they even ranked higher than us are actually less free by their own standards. This video is designed for people ignorant or unwilling to do their own research.
thesparitan 3 months ago
the poor is../ first not the rih,,.
fibersour2 3 months ago
@bjarnet3 it fails to mention the "socialist" economies of Scanadanavia which have sustained economic growth, a high quality of life and very low poverty rates.
thinkingguy87 3 months ago
@thinkingguy87 You mean Norway, where I come from? Socialists economies,, you wish...
bjarnet3 3 months ago
@bjarnet3
EVERY economy has capital - even socialist and communist ones.
It IS possible to invest CAPITAL in a company controlled and owned by a communist government.
It IS possible to have an income TAX in the capital of capitalism (New York City).
Economy IDEOLOGY does NOT dictate economic PRACTICES.
kmarinas86 3 months ago
Economic freedom isn't free. It has a cost, and it is called interest. Every rich country prospers from it more than it suffers from it, and every poor country suffers from it more than it prospers from it. The Chinese now profit from the US borrowing money and paying interest back to China. This allows China to increase its economic freedom. You see, freedom is not hard to understand. You just have to end this notion that it is something spontaneous. Freedom has to be paid for, pure and simple.
kmarinas86 3 months ago
@kmarinas86 You have absolutely no clue what you're talking about. Chinese citizens are suffering because U.S is only giving them back useless papers called dollars in return for their hard work.
spol07 3 months ago
@spol07
China "Attacks The Dollar" March 2011: The Chinese central bank surprised with a spectacular announcement: The would-be superpower wants to handle their entire future foreign trade in yuan, not in dollars. Beijing shakes America's claim to represent the key currency - with serious consequences for the U.S..[....]This will respond to the growing importance of the yuan as a global reserve currency. "The market demand for cross-border use of the yuan rises," said the central bank.
kmarinas86 3 months ago
@spol07
China's Move Away from the U.S. Dollar Means You Need to Invest in the Yuan June 2011: A report from Standard Chartered Bank last week showed China's foreign exchange reserves expanded by $196 billion in the first four months of this year. About 75% of that investment was in non-U.S. dollar assets. This is the biggest gap between accumulated reserves and purchased U.S. debt by China in at least five years. [....]China has taken steps to distance itself from the currency[....]
kmarinas86 3 months ago
@spol07
Is China Ready To Pull The Plug? September 2011: Though increasingly more rare, news on China’s push to drop the U.S. still leaks out. Recently, a top advisor to China’s central bank let slip that a plan is in place to begin “liquidating” (yes, they said liquidate) their U.S. Treasury bonds as soon as possible, and reposition national investments into more physical assets[.]
kmarinas86 3 months ago
Wtf are you guys talking about since bush took office he deregulated the economy even more.
Wiseguyzmoney 4 months ago
Our freedom is falling, govt is getting bigger by the minute and as a result our quality of life will fall as well. Liberalism working it's deadly magic.
pismo10 4 months ago
The Chilean model was developed by the libertarians at the university of Chicago like Milton Friedman. One of the things I like about Cain is his plan for Social Security's future based on Chile - Much better than the Ponzi scheme that is social security.
jamo387 4 months ago
I think leftists know these things already. They simply hate freedom for anyone but themselves. They think other people are not to be trusted with freedom because they will do things the leftist disapproves of. Above all, it's about power for the left. Don't try to convince a leftist of the righteousness of freedom. You're wasting your breath. Simply defeat them mercilessly wherever you find them. Render them powerless, and don't give them an inch for they will always take the proverbial foot
jamo387 4 months ago
@jamo387 No you're wrong. Liberals aren't evil they simply don't know better. Free health care for everyone sounds good until you really look at it and know the facts. If they do know the facts they think the benefits outweigh the bad. I know I used to be one! We need to stop this otherism and realize people are just people.
notyetaladie 3 months ago 2
@notyetaladie We'll have to agree to disagree there. Your assertion implies that libs are all ignorant. Of course, many are but an equal amount are fully aware of what they are doing and disguise their motives as charitable. Of course, we all know that true charity involves reaching into your own pocket. Reaching into other peoples pockets is called theft and they know damn well who they are stealing from and why.
jamo387 3 months ago
What if economic freedom was not a cause but an effect of stability ?
What happen if you change your sample ? For example, China is a communist country and they have an annual economic growth of 9%.
Please stop distorting the facts with your corporate propaganda.
DritteWalpurgisnach 4 months ago
@DritteWalpurgisnach
Economic freedom isn't a bad thing. However, if you take taxes as a percent of GDP, I think you'd see a much different relationship.
Hello59239 4 months ago
@Hello59239
It depend what you mean by economic freedom. It's not always equal to political freedom.
Hong Kong and Singapore governements are not as democratics as Norway or U.S.A.
Seeing a correlation between economic freedom and quality of life is a false claim, It's just too simplistic.
Economic freedom would match Human Development Index if it was a direct correlation.
DritteWalpurgisnach 4 months ago
@DritteWalpurgisnach
Yes. Also, people need to notice who made this: the KOCH foundation....it's the same foundation that gave tons and tons of money to Republican candidates in 2010. The video does sound convincing though, and we need a good rebuttal.
Hello59239 3 months ago
@DritteWalpurgisnach I agree it is to simplistic. Economic freedom is one factor but they make it seem like its the only factor. For one, most of the economies on the list are European and most european countries have very strong socialist type governments so how can they be economically free? And second the US has under a right wing government for the last 30 years and we have drop in economic freedom? This video doesn't make sense, I wish they were a little more in depth in the explanation
thesparitan 3 months ago
@thesparitan "Economic freedom is one factor but they make it seem like its the only factor." That's very true. Another factor are the virtues of a countries population and it takes decades, if not centuries, to ruin a people thoroughly. Germany, for example, used to be among the pinnacle of the world in craftsmenship and intellectual brilliance, and even the welfare state, let alone Nazism and Communism, didn't manage to destroy all of that, though it clearly took a toll.
john42t 3 months ago
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thesparitan 3 months ago
@john42t I had to laugh when I read this because of your ignorance of Germany history. Did you know that Germans in the late 1800s was the first country in the world to enact social insurance programs, old age pensions, accident insurance, medical care and unemployment insurance and became the model for the welfare state? Also the virtues of a countries population sounds like a meaningless term. BTW Germany is ahead of the more free market US in most indicator.
thesparitan 3 months ago
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@thesparitan "Did you know that Germans..." Yes. So? "BTW Germany is ahead of the more free market US in most indicator." True. So? "Also the virtues of a countries population sounds like a meaningless term. " That statement is what defines leftism.
john42t 3 months ago
@john42t So leftism is without values? That doesn't make any sense. You sound like a person that doesn't even understand the basic arguments of your opponents. What you are talking about when you say "virtues of a population" sounds like what Hitler was talking about. In fact you sound like someone that would look fondly towards that part of German history. You use the same vernacular and you are about as ignorant and dogmatic as them. Now we are done here.
thesparitan 2 months ago
@thesparitan Haha, John42t IS German, and you misread him. Props?
vNorilor 2 months ago
@vNorilor Yeah I know, that's where the irony comes in. He is ignorant of his own countries history. Its actually common, I am remember of histories of the US that I was unaware by people not from the US.
thesparitan 2 months ago
@thesparitan As I said, you misread his comment. He didn't make the claim you seem to be responding to.
vNorilor 2 months ago
@vNorilor Yes he did, but that conversation is between me and him. You need not concern yourself with others business. I am sure he can defend himself.
thesparitan 2 months ago
@thesparitan As far as I can see you misread a public comment on a third party's channel and replied presumptuously. There is one way for what you're saying to make sense: you two had a second conversation not in this video's comments. If so - Ok. Otherwise, as I've said three times now, you misread his comment. I imagine you've been told before, but you are ill-mannered, and pretentious.
vNorilor 2 months ago
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@vNorilor Sorry I guess I wasn't clear. I was trying to tell you that I do not care about your opinion. So you can stop commenting to me now because I am no longer reading what you say. You not in this conversation, sorry.
thesparitan 2 months ago
@DritteWalpurgisnach You're a fool if you think China is actually a communist country, please educate yourself before speaking.
spol07 3 months ago
@spol07 Well, China's run by the Communist Party of China so......it's obviously a communist country.
DritteWalpurgisnach 3 months ago
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@DritteWalpurgisnach the only thing obvious is that you have no clue what you're talking about and I'm not gonna educate you here on youtube so if you actually cared about the subject you would go and do some reading.
spol07 3 months ago
The Koch brothers are being railroaded by the “progressives” because they OPPOSE the crony capitalism that people and companies like Soros, Buffet, and GE engage in. For the truth google kochfacts.
xit1254 4 months ago
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luizcadu 4 months ago
The fallacy is not seeing the selective bias of just what is presented here - it is NOT an even-handed economic comparison. Mauritus? Where is France? Spain? Italy? Argentina? Brazil? Portugal? Even Singapore with a higher median income than USA, has more central planning and government control!
pee12789 4 months ago
@pee12789 Youtube: "Episode Two Economic Freedom in America Today"
There is no selective bias here. If you go to their website itself, you see that the methodology is very rigorous and objective.
truevoice08 4 months ago
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@pee12789
" Even Singapore with a higher median income than USA, has more central planning and government control!"
Last time I checked Singapore ranked second on economic freedom index. Not saying that the index of economic freedom is the absolute truth, but the vid is using this measure to compare. you can look up the other countries you listed as well.
JohnTightlips 4 months ago
The fallacy is that socialists think they can 'plan' an economy better than a free market can.
In the history of mankind, no civilization has discovered a more effective way to improve the standard of living than capitalism.
ldsfutbolplayer 4 months ago 2
Chile only reduced it's poverty rate when center-to-left governments combined the liberal policies of Pinochet with social programs and investments in education. When Pinochet left office, after 17 years of pure neo-liberal policies, 45% of the Chileans were under the poverty line.
luizcadu 4 months ago
@luizcadu You socialists never run out of 'empirical examples' like that. What you never do though is explain HOW exactly do increasing taxation making the poor dependent on government welfare solve poverty. Economic logic proves that reductions in poverty result DESPITE of government interference and NOT BECAUSE of it. As for Nordic countries, there are other considerations aside from tax rates, Sweden has no tariffs!
truevoice08 4 months ago 2
@truevoice08 I don't consider myself a socialist. Actually I think libertarian and social policies should be combined to some extent in order to provide economic prosperity to a country. Every modern developed nation did it like this.
luizcadu 4 months ago
@truevoice08
Taxes can be useful when it's revenues are used for providing the environment for economic prosperty (rule of law, infrastructure, education of the labour force). I aprove welfare when it lifts people out of extreme poverty and enable them to use their productive potential (it's being done here in my country, Brazil) not when it makes them dependent of govt. as you said.
luizcadu 4 months ago
@luizcadu Taxes are not necessary or practical to achieve those aims. If they were, then why not just raise taxes to 90% to produce an abundance of "public services"? Giving more power to politicians is never a solution. The nature of welfare is that it always creates perverse incentives. Its criterion for eligibility is always the "have-nots". If you take the principle that the initiation of coercion is immoral (either by the State or private groups) then it becomes clear that capitalism is WIN
truevoice08 4 months ago
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@truevoice08 The only countries I know that did this with virtually no taxes and no debt are the ones who used revenues from exporting natural resources (ex. United Arab Emirates, Bahrein, Qatar, who produces 10 times more oil per capita than any oher nation). I think government size has to be in the right measure, too much (like in Cuba, Venezuela, North Korea) will kill you.
luizcadu 4 months ago
South Korea, 11th largest economic power in the world for a nation of only 50 million, very high standard of living per capita and a very LOW amount of government spending. Where does it rank on the Economic Freedom index? 35th, next to Oman, Jordan, Botswana, and Uruguay. I dont get it, this rating system has hardly anything to do with "big government".
koolhanddavey 4 months ago
@koolhanddavey
Traditionally serious problems like corruption and bureaucracy also play into it. It isn't just keeping the government from spending too much but also a matter of ensuring reasonably honest administration. If you have to wait over a year in line to open up a small tailor shop, your economic freedom isn't very high. If the environmental inspectors are demanding bribes or they will destroy your home, you aren't free. The US has problems like that in some state. Korea has those too.
lipovan87 4 months ago in playlist More videos from EconFree
Yes it will falll they have planned it and taught the people there to be free stuff people, Brain washed them for the last almost 60years. Don't know how we can get them to think differently. It might be to late !
2u4ria 4 months ago
Ireland= big government = stale economy = 7th most economically free nation in the world!!
Go Ireland!... I mean boo Ireland! Wait, does Ireland have big government, then boo! Wait, small government? then yay! Dang, I wish I had a more consistent framework that properly correlates big government with lack of prosperity. Better luck next time though.
koolhanddavey 4 months ago
@koolhanddavey - By all means, make your own list and defend it's merits if you must.
StateExempt 4 months ago
@koolhanddavey The concept of "economic freedom" is actually kinda mixed up with "economic efficiency". Take the rich countries from the OECD: the vast majority of them have high tax rates and big govt. spending. But they're efficient, so they score high in economic freedom.
Now take the poor subsahaaran countries: most of them have low tax rates, small government and no trade restrictions. But they fail to provide basic rule of law and infrastructure, so they score low on economic freedom.
luizcadu 4 months ago
@koolhanddavey That's what libertarians don't openly admit: in order to provide the basic environment for economic freedom (infrastructure, rule of law, educated labour force) it is required a certain amount of collectivism. The amount of that collectivism may vary according to the country's specificities and culture.
Now look, Denmark has the highest tax rates in the world and is 8th in Heritage economic freedom index. Isn't this irony at its finest?
luizcadu 4 months ago
in Greece the economic freedom has been rapidly increased in the last years but from A list will be move to B list (the quality of life is still being decreased and the estimation is that the quality of life will be like India's )
Profigr 4 months ago
@bjarnet3 There is that.
But I've an even better reason. Every single one I've ever encountered hates facts.
Rensune 4 months ago
@Rensune That is absolutely true,,, just think how long they kept communism even though everybody knew it was devastating...
bjarnet3 4 months ago
@bjarnet3 It's not that difficult to find some who love clinging to wasteful government spending and will cling to them until it destroys them, true.
Rensune 4 months ago
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Why is Singapoor higher than the United States?
Hydreigon666 4 months ago
People don't be fooled. Liberalism and Socialism are just different faces of the same coin, good or evil. This video propaganda just proves this favorite quote:
"You are never dedicated to something you have complete confidence in. No-one is fanatically shouting that the sun is going to rise tomorrow. When people are fanatically devoted to political or religious faiths or any other kind of dogmas or goals, its always because these dogmas or goals are in doubt"
- Robert M Pirsig
henfiber 4 months ago
@henfiber Galileo was SHOUTING that the earth rotated around the sun! Are you saying that because he had to argue his case so fiercely, that he was simply dogmatic. Or was it rather that the rest of the world wasn't ready for his insights because they were not intuitive! Einstein wasn't read for the insights of Quantum Mechanics because they were not intuitive. Pirsig wasn't ready for Atheism because he failed to define 'quality' in Zen& the Art of Motorcycle maintenance. Pity for him.
dmg46664 4 months ago
@dmg46664 Thank you for this nice reply, so I can clarify. This video and its creators, use ADVERTISING principles to promote their beliefs (What I call "shouting"). The arguments presented are based on selected supporting statistics which themselves are based on correlations rather than causality. Actually, this video matches Galileo's and Einstein's opponent dogmatic argumentations and methodologies rather than Galileo's and Einstein's cause-and-effect sound scientific proof procedures.
henfiber 4 months ago
@henfiber This work is merely a summary (advert) of heritage(.)org/index . That work is absolutely correlation! They don't claim to be otherwise. For a look at hypotheses of causation, I'd direct u 2 tinyurl(.)com/67e4qq4 . Heritage provides solid statistical correlation. For it to be false you usually have to show oppos. causation or a 3rd factor. The idea that acting freely CAUSES free policies in regimes that are not free seems absurd to me! U have a lot of work cut out4u to demonstrate that!
dmg46664 4 months ago
@henfiber 3) And another thing. I was backing Galileo NOT Einstein. Einstein backed CAUSATION when confronted by Bohr and Heisenberg who backed statistics! Quantum theory makes assumptions which have statistically predictive power but have no reasonable assumption of cause-and-effect. Just correcting you on your history of "cause-and-effect sound scientifc proof" :-)
dmg46664 4 months ago
@Relentless Boner
You misunderstand. I DON'T think that government in cohoots with corporations means freedom - just the opposite. I am anti-corporatism, pro-free-market-capitalism, anti-Federal-Reserve.
djthum 4 months ago
Koch Brothers propaganda. Cherry picking of statistical correlations while avoiding the issue at hand. Too much linkage between corporate interests and government. The resulting corruption will eventually destroy most of the correlations in this video.
djthum 4 months ago
@djthum ...how do you think economic freedom means government in cahoots with corporations?
Corporatism is NOT capitalism
RelentlessBoner 4 months ago
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@djthum did you see my comment?
WeeeeBeep 2 months ago
Notice that Norway was omitted from List A even though it enjoys the world's Highest Quality of Life Index, a very high Human Development Index, 2nd highest GDP, and ranks highly in all other related indices? Could this be because it's a MIXED economy where the state plays a major role. In fact, just about all of Scandinavia prospers with a high degree of state sponsorship. Why doesn't the video mention this?
bkelsey4 4 months ago
@TheCommonManUSA
what's wrong with the video? you prefer slavery?
bucasas 4 months ago
I like how 'child labor rates' are a result of economic freedom, except that when corporations had the most 'freedom', child labor and exploitation was rampant in the U.S. until the government stepped in. Also, if hospital ERs had the freedom to refrain from treating patients it didn't see as "economically viable," we might not have as low an infant mortality rate. I'd also like to point out that correlation != causation.
EatThePlacenta 4 months ago
@EatThePlacenta you do realize ER's provide medical care due to the Hippocratic oath, not some government-mandated action, right?
TheBabolat91 4 months ago
@TheBabolat91 Actually, ERs are required to provide emergency care for everyone by a federal law passed in 1986, which was passed specifically to prevent "Patient dumping" - some ERs would not treat emergencies without proof of ability to pay, and instead sent patients elsewhere. Enough of them that a law was needed - sad but true.
mldegruyter 4 months ago
@EatThePlacenta Bullshit, the reason child labor could even be banned was because there wasn't much need for it anymore. No one now would even THINK of it (banned or not) because we all have high standards of living, so we both have no need to make our children work, but we also need them to focus on higher education instead. That is all a direct result of economic freedom.
RelentlessBoner 4 months ago
@EatThePlacenta it is also worth noting that way back in the day when child labor was allowed, wages were also at there lowest in history. sad but true. I agree, child labor would never help anything. hell you used to be able to make a living for a family of five on 1 man's salary if you had any job. Food service specifically does this the most. have you noticed how dairy queen lets little kids serve ice cream while there suposedly of the age they need to do there homework? this shit sucks!
WeeeeBeep 2 months ago
@bklmsoul Seriously, what about this video is incorrect?
PeggyVenable 4 months ago
@PeggyVenable it is more effective to reduce a wage tax to increase employment because i personally could use some money, and money that is not from my paycheck makes me cheaper to have arround and much more likely to keep my job if i show up on time every time all the time. however reducing a capital gains tax to achieve the same end is treating the symptoms of the problem. the symptom is loss of profit. sometimes i wonder how very few people in the united states know how to look past spam...
WeeeeBeep 2 months ago
"CHARLES KOCH FOUNDATION".
tkandme3 4 months ago
"CHARLES KOCH FOUNDATION".
tkandme3 4 months ago
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so... freedom of speech is good, freedom of religion is good, freedom of association is good, but financial and economic freedom is bad?
these are all the same thing to me.
MrHamncheez 4 months ago
so... freedom of speech is good, freedom of religion is good, freedom of association is good, but financial and economic freedom is bad?
these are all the same thing to me.
MrHamncheez 4 months ago
What the hell are we doing watching Koch Bros propaganda? This shit is creepy and lame.
bklmsoul 4 months ago
@bklmsoul since when did data become propaganda?
firebadger101 4 months ago
@bklmsoul - clearly, you don't want to be bothered by the facts. That's a shame.
PeggyVenable 4 months ago
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@PeggyVenable - right back at you~ you have some critical thinking to do.
bklmsoul 4 months ago
@bklmsoul - clearly, you don't want to be bothered by the facts. That's a shame.
PeggyVenable 4 months ago
the horizontal x axis is "economic freedom". what's the incremental scale that makes this barometer "least free" to "most free"? the x axis is valueless. is left "least" and right "most" strictly bc the narrator says so. what is this based on... ooor... do they pretty much hope (safely assume) their target audience won't think to ask? y axis is based upon "the fraser institute foundation economic fredom of the world 2010 report"
pheowobbo 4 months ago
I will never allow another man to coerce me do do anyhting for his sake, nor will I ever coerce another man to do anyhting for my sake. I have been coerced by men to do things for their sake. The coersion has been perpetraded on threat of loss of my freedom or my death. The threats have come from the federal government. Labor unions are coercive too. They say, I must join their union or I cannot work. Its enough to make you want to become a moonshiner and plug anybody who trespasses.
Seamusveritas 5 months ago
So, you can basically put any metric on the X axis that you want to propagandize as "freedom". Ironically contrasted with the Heritage foundation's tax-smashing goals, you could put that same graph, but with marginal tax rates on the highest brackets on the X axis, and IT GETS STEEPER
manonthemount 5 months ago
hmmm interesting. This ad is paid for by the heritage foundation, a neo-con think tank. I wonder why they fail to mention that.
Really makes me wonder if this video is more propaganda than it is truth.
BootyBot 5 months ago
The problem is that people are too stupid to handle freedom.
It would be somehow ok if the world wasn't populated by so many prats.
zKRevolt 5 months ago
@zKRevolt Vicious cycle. Each successive generation loses just a little bit more of their freedoms, under the premise that it's for their own protection, in their own best interest. People are being denied the chance to learn from their mistakes and, as a result, simply do not learn.
FEFuryguy 5 months ago
very flashy propaganda. if i were simple-minded i might have fallen for it
topgun1792 5 months ago