Medical Doctor Opposes Healthcare Reform Bill

[JustSayNo2Guns]

This lady doctor is full of shit. There is no such thing as a frivolous lawsuit. Drs. Tortured me and I should’ve killed them, rather than try to sue them. And that’s what will happen if people can’t sue doctors. Any doctor who thinks they have enough money to pay for the suffering they cause is clinically insane. time will come when patients will say, "physician heal thy self" and doctors will unable to cure themselves from the baseball blows to the head.

[tfiore22]

I agree with the doctor completely except for one issue. I used to work for a lab at a hospital and I can tell you all the medical personnel do WAYYY more blood tests than they need to. It is certainly not the minimum and I think hospitals speak the majority over private practice. They actually have regulations to run all sorts of tests that make it seem the necessary and minimum when in reality not even half of the tests are necessary. I mean they make hundreds of dollars per vial of blood.

[John6verse27]

Great interview. There is a lot more to this than just "give me health care". It is a very confusing matter - designed to keep us from knowing! A lot of us would do well to start exercising & eating better. You think we have health issues as adults now. Just wait for the next generation. A lot of these children are raised on McDonald's & Taco Bell. We start on the school food being fed to them. Also, gym is not a mandatory 4 years class in High School.

[restlesspride666]

@John6verse27 It was 2 years at my old school :D

[fbi10]

this was a classy interview, learned a lot.

[pinochet222]

A thoughtful woman,indeed. But she'll defend doctors to death, and here I'm on the side of Cenk and the facts LOL

1). They do get fees per service.

2). In most places they get higher fees even for prescribing and administering a MORE EXPENSIVE drug!

Study after study shows that with this system the number of performed services goes up (compared to salary-based places)

That said, I also heard that with or without that "public" option,insurers and drug companies LOVE the bills. It's bad news.

[OpenInsanity]

I apologize for my previous comment.

Dr. Elainia George obviously is from the Jane Hamsher/Cenk Uygur school of thought. I'm just interested as to why she posted on Bitchbart's website.

[Omadus]

Awesome interview ... until it turned out that she was basically saying what Cenk and other progressives have been saying all along.

Honestly, isn't there a single health care debate which presents two intelligent opposing sides?

[Melpheos1er]

Her proposals around 11:00 are just right but i would add Medicare for all

[RaminHAL9001]

Cenk drives home another excellent interview.

[TheGiantRobot]

She brought up excellent points about medicare not paying enough and insurance sucking the money out of everything.

We need to tackle impoverishing wages, lopsided taxes, and our deep pockets legal system that makes lawyers and insurance companies rich. If we fix that, everything else falls into place.

She's dead wrong about doctors not being motivated by how they get paid, though. Doctors are no more honest than anyone else, maybe less so from my experience.

[DanCdn]

I watch all TYT videos daily and they are great. But on the interviews Cenk, you need to listen to your guests more. During the interviews all you seem to be listening for are points that can appear to reinforce your own positions... and then you hijack the guest's point of view to make your own. This interview is a classic example.... quite unfortunate.

[SinisterSkip]

@DanCdn

Well, if you think Cenk's misusing the points of the one being interviewed, you'll hate 95% of all other interviews much more than this one, because those are often just off the chain.

[schmokay]

I like her tax right off suggestions.I have not seen any projections on the cost but it could be the cheapest way to treat the uninsured. Especially for hospitals that eat the cost.

She is very pro-doctor, which is fine. I think you have to have two conversations when discussing health care costs. 1) doctors 2) hospitals; the cost drivers for each are almost reversed and dealings with insurance companies are completely reversed. Hospital networks dictate cost to insurance companies.

[hollaboutit]

Dr. George has some common sense ideas. i wouldn't mind her approach, and it sounds more like the "good ole days" that people whine about.

[poopaholictar]

I wanna slap politicians across the face every single one of them a big slap.

In many ways the Peoples Republic of China's government is a better system, they don't need to worry about some of these dumb politics since there is no elections, in many ways it much more efficient and better overall for the people!

But I still like democracy, but I feel in many ways politicians need to be slapped across the face and when they screw over the people they need to be held accountable!

[blackknight007]

awesome interview. great stuff that is just totally absent from the mainstream media.

[moietmavieana]

It is soooo nice to see a well balanced, respectful and smart conversation

[SinisterSkip]

VERY good interview. Learned some new things.

Thank you. We need more media like this. Please!

[djb12030]

wow... that was a really good interview and she totally changed my mind about the healthcare bill. I was saying "well its better than nothing" but I just cant see that as true any more. In this case you have to go all or nothing. Either go universal or dont change it at all.

[yotafro]

It's sad that politicians can't emulate this kind of debate. It would be easier for the politicians to make an intelligent compromise if everyone who votes could see these kinds of debates. It's really sad that the health care debate has been corrupted by partisanship and corporate influence. We would all know a good plan if we saw one.

[abortabraham]

This difference between Elaina George and Cenk Uygur is that one of them embraces facts, is unambiguous, provides real solutions, and is not a totalitarian. That person is not Cenk Uygur.

[SinisterSkip]

@abortabraham

I think Cenk was very reasonable in this interview.

I actually haven't heard more reasonable interviewers on blogs on TV, so I think your view is just wrong.

[abortabraham]

TV is a poor standard to hold anything to. The fact is that Cenk's only solution to anything is "the government will do it", which is a non-answer. If he actually had the facts to debate the specifics that Dr. George was willing to get into, he knows he would have been fisked, so instead he resorts to his usual broad, obscure bugaboos. Its a "reasonable" interview, but you can count on Cenk A. not looking up the facts B. not altering his position C. continuing to call opposition "loonies".

[SeanOBriain]

A balanced discussion? How did that happen? She is speaking in her interests, as a practitioner. She is financially motivated, so she is merely speaking on behalf of what change will mean to her - rather than what change will mean in a wider context.

[RationalPeace]

She was speaking for all private practitioners. The "wider concept" involves them too. I think her view is as balanced as any that has been proposed thus far.

[SeanOBriain]

Oh I agree that her view was balanced - but the state should serve the interests of it's people first.

[RationalPeace]

I agree with you. I think though, her views were actually a nail on the head. She said that both versions of the bill is corrupt--something which I agree with. The ways she explained the faultiness of the bills is something that is in the minds of many Americans including myself. The health-care bill in its purest form, is doable. Thus I believe her defense for private practitioners was a reasonable position.

[theanimegod]

In Japan, there is cost control on just about every medical procedure and prescription. Doctors don't get paid as much as a result, but everyone gets covered.  Their living longer is more cultural. Specifically, the Japanese diet and food products are healthier.

[EziekielNightwind]

Know what'd be even better then what the lady wanted?

Single Payer.

In the US, the left and right paradigm is more like, Right and Further Right.

[cristoballs]

good video. this is what pisses me off about the whole health care debate. when people start bringing up stuff like death panels and what not, they take attention away from real issues that should be discussed.

[pbmdh]

Very great discussion, now if only our politicians would do something like this.

[logoth80]

good discussion, think many posters commented after 30seconds tho...

[aaronsande]

She's an intelligent woman with some good ideas, but in some ways she's too close to the problem, predictably. Hence she's blind to some problems.

[Smartassawhip]

The republicans don't think we should regulate the insurance companies.

I just added a video to my player that shows how the insurance companies come between the patient and doctor.

[cerritoboy]

This lady got OWNED!

[SeanOBriain]

She didn't get owned. She offered a reasonable debate.

[cerritoboy]

Fuck this lady! Fuck you nigger!

[upplsuckimcool16]

Listen there is DEFINITELY incentive to do more tests but this "Stark Law" cannot prevent doctors from doing tests that the doctors say they need to do...

Example: When I was younger they tested me for A.D.D. and I came out negative.... the doctor said the test was wrong and did it again.... negative. The doctor STILL said it was wrong and put me on ritalin. If someone comes in an office to see a Dr. and they are emotional BAM anti depressants. This doesn't happen in other countries...

[SirPwn4lot]

She seems so sad. She needs a hug :(

I don't mind her ideas, they seem reasonable, but I'd take it a little further.

[Reqrezentin]

This woman actually had some stuff to say..

Pretty rare to see this.

[ccm800]

docs order more tests because of the threat of litigation. So when they end up on a witness stand they can show all that they did to try and save a dying patient.

[ccm800]

Dang. Insurance as an idea is such a good and noble idea - but it has become such a racket

[ccm800]

her ideas ROCK!!

[jaba987]

LEFT RIGHT PARASDIGM!!! and Cenk jumps in to interrupt

[ranast316]

I liked her.

[LouisLeGros]

Wow, I wish the mainstream news would have discussions like this.

[jimmybrite]

lol patient choice, people get sick then they get choosy? wow this is messed up. Dunno nothing about that in Canada.

[Markx12F]

@jimmybrite

patient choice means that a patient has the choice, not the doctor.

[jimmybrite]

You couldn't have read my comment any worse than that. I meant exactly what you just told me, your reply just doesn't make any sense.

[ccm800]

@jimmybrite she is one hundred percent right about much of what she says.

[jimmybrite]

yeah, your point being? I'm not debating that at all, I'm just saying it's an extraordinary concept to me, to be able to choose by who you get fixed, it ain't news to me but it's amazing to hear people complain about matters like this when they'll never live through the same hardships, like waiting 24 hours in the e.r. to get a simple prescription for ear medicine at the hospital.

[ccm800]

whoops - not meant as a response to you - my bad - however - you can wait a daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn long time in any urban hospital ER here in the states and if you don't have insurance they are just as likely to kick you to the curb.

[Markx12F]

I meant "why in the world"

[upplsuckimcool16]

@jimmybrite OMG that is my pet peave when people do that. ESPECIALLY whe done vocally.

I say "Man I hate it when the store rips me off" and they say "Yeah but don't you hate it when stores don't give you the right change".

[Markx12F]

@ jimmybrite

Well that was the first thought that crossed my mind, but I thought that you couldn't possibly mean that. But since it is apparent that you did. I have to disagree. Why in the would would you not want to be able to chose you doctor/hospital? What if you find out your doctor has been sued numerous times, wouldn't you want to be able to chose a different one?

[Xenite227]

All of her points are irrelevant if we actually fixed health care costs, which it appears we will never do.

An asprin does not cost a hospital $15, yet thats what they charge a patient. Between price gouging and the health care pimps (insurance companies) a solution will never be found until we regulate prices and remove the need for health care insurance totally.

[nilbud]

Doctors feel entitled to live in a mansion, own a collection of exotic cars and vacation on their yacht. They work for profit not health.

[dangerouslytalented]

Except under the current American system, the healthcare companies are making most of the money.

[sugarmountain560]

they deserve it

[nilbud]

I deserve it too, so what, life is hard.

[mohio23]

@nilbud every one work's to eat shiyt and live well

[ipxzor]

One of the best interviews I've seen recently on any show anywhere fantastic work Cenk.

[RationalPeace]

Cenk, let her fucking talk....

[NiceVideos11]

She talked a fucking lot.....

[RationalPeace]

Not really, she had more to say. Cenk cut her off quite a few times.

[Nightmare060]

A couple of times, but he did let her finish.

Look at Bill O'Riely and how he cuts people off and compare him to Cenk. BIG difference.

[RationalPeace]

I know. I'm not defending Bill O'Riely. Not sure why would bring him up. I'm a fan of this show, and Cenk, but was just slightly disappointed when Cenk cut her off. Why? Because this lady, although she was against health care reform, made a lot of sense, and the debate was actually a proper discussion. And, so everytime she had to talk over Cenk to actually finish her statement, I facepalmed.

[bevon17]

see. this is good debating.

no one is screaming and yelling and acting like Bill O, or Glenn Beck

although those clowns very VERY entertaining

[SocialDemocracyFTW]

This broad was pretty cool. You should have her back on.

[marsCubed]

Ron Paul's web site had his latest policy on it recently.

He wants doctors to have the 'right' not to treat poor people in ER.

Not even PAIN relief for the dying.

RP thinks that people should be treated worse than animals.

He is scum, a liar and a cheat, no different to his slippery racism and pro worst insurance demands.

A smiling creep who looks like an uncle

He believes in 'charity' = the boss decides who gets meds and who dies.

wake up people.

Ron Paul is biggest scum in politics today.

[nilbud]

He's a creepy psychopath

[marsCubed]

A couple more examples of RP.

watch his interview on the morning after pill.

He says the law should be changed so possession = murder charge.

His biggest financial backer is a bullion salesman.

He for segregated populations.. and yet sells it as a good deal to the poor.

look on the web for his links to white racists.

RP base is the old segregationists with gloss.

he is the reason Pailn get any support at all.

People know it is a messed up system, RP recruits the fools. he is pogrom politics.

[marsCubed]

BTW, it is one of the coolest things in the world to know that others see Ron Paul as a liar and creep. thanks for the nice comment.

It simply is not good that we make a world where others are harmed.

Anyone can point to the problems with glossy vids. most don't because it is not that easy.

we should fix it with reason and peace, not with more inequality, property elites ruling without fetter and less right to know.

which is what RP tries to lever in.

more democracy not less.

[sugarmountain560]

RON PAUL 2012!!!!!!!!!

[0MichiganExotics0]

MS Dr. we don't have choose dr's and hospitals let you die if u don't have a health care so what chooses we have? to buy from the company's? well so whats wrong whit a cheap plan that the government sale health care

[ReggyGDI]

WOOOOOOOOO TYT YOU ROCK