@towringer - Lockheed didn't sell enough of the L-1011's to be profitable. Throw in production delays due to Rolls-Royce's financial issues and you have a recipe for a mess.
@16924fps Your right. RR invested heavily on the L1011's jet engine which the government bailed out the company. Reorganized the whole company and placed it back on the assembly of the L1011's jet engines. The engine they worked with L1011 was bypass ratio engine I believe and it caused lots of assets in this project.
The engine you are thinking of was the RB211. It was indeed a high-bypass engine. It later went on to be a great asset for RR. The RB211 in various forms was fitted the the L-1011, Boeing 747 (100/SP/200/300), Boeing 757-200 and Tupolev Tu-204.
The series still flies on new aircraft in a way, as RR's current engines, the Trent series, are heavily based on the RB211.
The RB211 almost bankrupted the company. From my understanding, the engine's development was longer and more complicated than planned. The British government had to bail out RR or they would have gone under.
Once the bugs were all worked out, the RB211/Trent family proved to be a great seller.
I flew on Tristars with Eastern, TWA and Delta, and I remember the unique features it had. Such as cabin doors that opened up into the roof, and an underfloor gallley. Don't know why Lockheed never made any other commercial jetliner.
@micmac99 Actually I'm 38, I remember seeing them on TV when I was growing up, but I never bothered to ask my parents who they were or what the program was. Thanks!
I used to travel from NJ to Fl on the L1011 Tristars. Awesome jets, very quiet and comfortable, even in coach. Now, you travel on tiny jet with seats that more resemble perches. As for food? Back then, even a flight to Florida got you a hot meal. Now you're lucky if the stewardess throws a bag of peanuts at you.
@pianomanmaestro ,the trijets where necessary because of the ETOPS regulations in those times, wich restricted a twin jet from making a trans atlantic flight.
@voyeurcurioso As well, N308EA recieved parts that were salvageable from N310EA, which crashed in the Florida Everglades (EA flight 401) in 1972. There were apparent ghost sightings of the crew on 308, and the parts from the crashed aircraft were swapped with others after many complaints from passengers and crew. There was a book written about the sightings.
You have to love the way that plane lands. There isn't really a flare, reminds you of a fighter jet landing on an aircraft carrier, but still smooth,
herbergreen 1 month ago
nice fake sounds....lol....
midwestairlinesinc 2 months ago
@towringer - Lockheed didn't sell enough of the L-1011's to be profitable. Throw in production delays due to Rolls-Royce's financial issues and you have a recipe for a mess.
16924fps 4 months ago
@16924fps Your right. RR invested heavily on the L1011's jet engine which the government bailed out the company. Reorganized the whole company and placed it back on the assembly of the L1011's jet engines. The engine they worked with L1011 was bypass ratio engine I believe and it caused lots of assets in this project.
Source - Rollsroyce plant documentary.
Shipocute 3 months ago
@Shipocute
The engine you are thinking of was the RB211. It was indeed a high-bypass engine. It later went on to be a great asset for RR. The RB211 in various forms was fitted the the L-1011, Boeing 747 (100/SP/200/300), Boeing 757-200 and Tupolev Tu-204.
The series still flies on new aircraft in a way, as RR's current engines, the Trent series, are heavily based on the RB211.
hzzlrp10 3 months ago
@hzzlrp10 Wow! Thanks for the info!
By the way... It is that RB211 Engine development that troubled the RR company right?
That's what I have heard from the documentary. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Shipocute 3 months ago
@Shipocute
The RB211 almost bankrupted the company. From my understanding, the engine's development was longer and more complicated than planned. The British government had to bail out RR or they would have gone under.
Once the bugs were all worked out, the RB211/Trent family proved to be a great seller.
hzzlrp10 3 months ago
@16924fps
Competition from the DC-10 didn't help, either. There just wasn't enough need in the marketplace for two wide-body three holers at the same time.
In the end, MDD and Lockheed took a bath on their respective projects.
hzzlrp10 3 months ago
I flew on Tristars with Eastern, TWA and Delta, and I remember the unique features it had. Such as cabin doors that opened up into the roof, and an underfloor gallley. Don't know why Lockheed never made any other commercial jetliner.
towringer 5 months ago
Who are those three characters at the lower part of the screen?
n310ea 6 months ago
@n310ea Do a search using this term: "MST3K". You either must be younger than 30 or didn't have cable growing up.
micmac99 5 months ago
@micmac99 Actually I'm 38, I remember seeing them on TV when I was growing up, but I never bothered to ask my parents who they were or what the program was. Thanks!
n310ea 5 months ago
@micmac99
I'm 27 and didn't have cable but I know about the Hillarious Mystery Science Theatre 3,000 unlikes that dude.
:-D
indyfan22k 3 months ago
That's my Home Airport! San Juan!
tomcat561 8 months ago
I used to travel from NJ to Fl on the L1011 Tristars. Awesome jets, very quiet and comfortable, even in coach. Now, you travel on tiny jet with seats that more resemble perches. As for food? Back then, even a flight to Florida got you a hot meal. Now you're lucky if the stewardess throws a bag of peanuts at you.
itsmegp46 9 months ago
Days of the tri-jets!
pianomanmaestro 1 year ago
@pianomanmaestro ,the trijets where necessary because of the ETOPS regulations in those times, wich restricted a twin jet from making a trans atlantic flight.
matatan69 1 year ago
@matatan69
Not only ETOPS, there were no jet engine families at the time with sufficient thrust to lift a similarly-sized aircraft with only 2 engines.
So far as I know the first true wide body twin was the A-300, and that didn't fly for another decade after TriStar.
hzzlrp10 3 months ago
"...just like everywhere else in the world." Hilarious - love MST3K.
longfade 1 year ago
MST3K FTW!!!!! XD
SentMe 1 year ago
N308EA...sister to N310EA lost Dec 29 1972
Boeing727223 2 years ago
San Juan International Airport!
TWA021 2 years ago 3
The first jet I ever flew on as a kid, an Eastern L-1011! Good stuff, thanks for posting!
DEP717 2 years ago 2
That's Eastern's N308EA, which went to DL in the mid-90s before being shipped off to Hawaii for use on the TV hit 'Lost'!
voyeurcurioso 2 years ago 10
@voyeurcurioso As well, N308EA recieved parts that were salvageable from N310EA, which crashed in the Florida Everglades (EA flight 401) in 1972. There were apparent ghost sightings of the crew on 308, and the parts from the crashed aircraft were swapped with others after many complaints from passengers and crew. There was a book written about the sightings.
StCatharinesRailFan8 3 months ago
there were many comercial jets during the 50's & 70's era . at present only two giant remain : boeing & airbus
tunkunrunk 2 years ago 7