Richter and Dorliak - Rachmaninov

[lourak]

Richter never married Nina Dorliak. They lived together all the years.

[Ivanhoe2]

Entrancing! The sweet voiced Nina Dorliak accompanied by one of the greatest pianists of all time, in Rachmaninov's captivating song. A joy to music lovers. As to Maestro Richter's sexual preferences,,,,WHO CARES?? Such matters are private and of no concern to others. Thanks for posting this film. 

[LedyStile]

ЗДЕСЬ ХОРОШО Музыка Сергея Рахманинова Слова Г. Галиной Здесь хорошо… Взгляни, вдали огнем Горит река; Цветным ковром луга легли, Белеют облака. Здесь нет людей… Здесь тишина… Здесь только Бог да я. Цветы, да старая сосна, Да ты, мечта моя!

[LedyStile]

ЗДЕСЬ ХОРОШО Музыка Сергея Рахманинова Слова Г. Галиной Здесь хорошо… Взгляни, вдали огнем Горит река; Цветным ковром луга легли, Белеют облака. Здесь нет людей… Здесь тишина… Здесь только Бог да я. Цветы, да старая сосна, Да ты, мечта моя!

[belshep]

guys, the user anttisairanen who marred the thread below is working for money from Richter's maternal cousins to get them royalty rights. The dirty rotter with no respect for Richter's privacy. IGNORE HIM! don't buy the book he's advertising! Watch Bruno Monsaingeon's film Richter the Enigma, listen to whatever Richter himself had to say!

The clip is wonderful regardless

[anttisairanen]

@belshep One should not react on this kind nonsense, but I keep recommending the book by Karl Aage Rasmussen, "Sviatoslav Richter - Pianist" as essential reading for anybody with interest to Richter, man and musician. It is in fact the first genuine Richter biography, in any language. Monsaingeon's Richter documentary is no doubt worth of watching, but please keep in mind that here is speaking an old, sick and depressed master.

[SergeyTsoy333]

Поэзия, музыка и исполнение! Огромнейшее спасибо за этот пост!!!

[aomf58]

What a beautiful song... Nina Dorliak was amazing...

[Barbapippo]

What a wonderful song.... as to Richter and Dorliak, I don't know how they got on as married people, but as a duo they are PERFECT.

[meredith21846]

I could'nt give a fuck about Richters sexuality (No irony intended in that assertion). I simply recognise and remember him as one of the 20th centurys most extraondinary musical figures,therefore can we digress from this irrelevant nonsense. Incidentally I love that Rachmaninov song.

[anttisairanen]

"The person authorizing the other to act is the principal, granter or donor (of the power), and the one authorized to act is the agent, the attorney-in-fact" This could be a defination for Attorney in Fact, the position I do have the honor to have in relation to Richter's family.

That Richter had a homosexual orientation (btw. as many other great musicians) is clearly documented and will be discussed among other things in the English edition by UPNE ( 2009) of the biography by Rasmussen.,

[dewvey]

What I read was a book written by Dmitry Terehov "Richter and his time" available just in russian. He was a close friend of Richter and Dorliak. He wrote that after his death, Nina suffered from many diseases, particularily she had pain in back. In the time before her death, she almost couldn't walk.

Just sharing something that I read : )

Thanks a lot for new information.

I will wait for the book.

By the way, what means Attorney in Fact for Sviatoslav Richter's Family? (more precisely)

[mltube]

I guess, it means a self-appointed advocate of Richter's legacy as a homosexual, dewey :-) I always thought that Richter was gay, because of the rumors, but after watching the "Enigma" got to think that it was more complicated. Richter may have wanted to be viewed as one, to protect his artistic freedom. In the film he never gives a hint, despite having the best chance to do so, and no lover of his has ever come forward. I saw a clip of him kissing with Brezhnev, but doubt it is a proof :-)

[dewvey]

At the end of "Enigma" he says: " I do not like myself " and he looks so terribly...

I think he was gay, but being one doesn't mean to accept it. I think Richter never gave anybody a chance to approach him.

In the same book, it says that whrn somebody tried to get closer to him, he rejected the person definitely and forever.

Genious and artists are condemned to being alone all their life, to syffer in order to let the humanity to be happy, inspired...

[gwozdezzz]

@dewvey just because a person is not happy you think he has to be gay?

OH MY GOD,

Richter was a very religious person, he was just very strict with himself. he was not gay.

[dewvey]

I never told that, never made such a conclusion.

I just listen to his music, I somehow read books about him and watched videos with him, his wife and people who knew him ( the originals in russian, maybe you too). So, what did you do to 1) make your statements about Richters` religion and orientation. 2) Convert mine into something pointless? And if I'm wrong and you really know a lot about Richter, why don't you care to explain more and to tell us about your sources?

[gwozdezzz]

@dewvey I'm sorry, perhaps you are really better informed.

[nomsdufrere]

Hello mltube, I thought you were only mocking me, but now I see that you have that skeptical attitude all over you, no matter who you're talking with.

[francorussie2]

@mltube I did some research that showed that most "advocates" of this genre are either ggaayys or... R's haters (for personal or political anti-Soviet reasons). R not only wanted to be free and "alone", but was a tragic figure. He thought about his father, executed in 1941, and felt his mother betrayed him and indirectly caused his death. Also, having a German father and a Russian noble mother made him deeply "alien" to Soviet society. No wonder his way of life was so distinct and "alien".

[francorussie2]

@francorussie2 P.S. No real need to invent vulgar or popular explanations... I was myself said to be a "witch" (no joke) because I displayed some special, mostly intellectual, analytical skills... Something similar often happens to those who have a gift of genius... to vulgar minds, their just "have" to be "deviant", and this is aggravated by envy and the desire of some people to "bathe in the sun rays" of their GLORY ))))

[anttisairanen]

ps. Nina Dorliak got arrangeded a post mortem "marriage" with help of the Russian embassy in Germany.

[dewvey]

I read she died half a year after Richter's death.

She couldn't live without him as if she had no more the sense of life.

What you say is interesting if it's truth.

[anttisairanen]

I have the relevant documentation, copies of.

What comes to Nina Llovna's death, your presumption is unfortunately a false postulate. The circusmtances of her death will be discussed in a coming publication, to be announced at the web site of Sacontala Publishers

Antti Sairanen

[bassoostenuto1]

I completely agree with dewvey! If you are studying the life of this genius, pay more attention to his pianistic art and leave alone the rest. He is a musical colossus of XX century.

[dewvey]

Why they have to discuss it?

Richter's privacy, whatever he's alive or dead, shouldn't be discussed in such a book.

[anttisairanen]

It is the biographist's right but also duty to discuss, stydy and "draw a picture" of the whole person, not only some parts, factors, aspects, and in no case exercise cencorship. This this the main rule for any proprer biography.

Antti Sairanen

Attorney in Fact for Sviatoslav Richter's Family

[JulesJapan]

Beautiful find, by the way.

[peterlunow]

pure poetry.

[bortkievitch]

Una auténtica JOYA. A real TREASURE.Cést une PERLE.¡Rachmaninov, a great Genius!

[mirator]

Great performance! I adore these artists...

Thank you for posting!

Olia

[principedigelo]

TEXT:

How peaceful it is here Look! far away the river blazes like fire The meadows are carpets of colour The clouds are radiant white There's no one here Silence reigns I am alone with the Lord, the flowers, the old pine tree And you, my dream of delight!

[principedigelo]

TEXT: How peaceful it is here Look! far away the river blazes like fire The meadows are carpets of colour The clouds are radiant white There's no one here Silence reigns I am alone with the Lord, the flowers, the old pine tree And you, my dream of delight!

[shykay]

oh, it's beautiful.

[billydavid97]

What is this piece? It is beautiful.

[shykay]

never married officially but were a lifelong partner for each other.

[francorussie]

I saw her interview, she spoke of Richter as if adoring him :-).

[ChatlaninUef]

You know, 'cause it is his personal thing and maybe its quite bad, that someone on youtube starts to talk about it.

[ChatlaninUef]

For the first - you can't be sure. For the second - imho, everyone, who has the homosexuality error, but doesn't shout about it and understands its unnormality, have to be percieved as an absolutely normal person.

I hope you also think so ;))

[JulesJapan]

First, as far as I am aware, it was an open secret that Richter was gay (as, for that part, were many of the great pianists).

Second, what are you talking about 'the homosexuality error'? I know I should know better than respond to homophobes on youtube comments, but...

Third, I sometimes write stupid and sometimes offensive comments when I'm drunk. This one was debatebly stupid, but not offensive, because I'm not a homophobe.

What the hell are you talking about 'the homosexuality error'?

[ChatlaninUef]

Aha aha yes, everyone who don't want to be homosexual is a homophobe ;)))

[JulesJapan]

The fact that you're a hetrosexual, and have no desire to have sex with men, is not mutually exclusive with the idea that there is nothing 'wrong' with homosexuality.

[Brianjonestown]

Doesn't "want" to be homosexual? You think it's a choice?? It's a good thing the wesrtern world has survived ignorant fucks like you. So what if Richter was gay? Both Nina Dorliac and Wanda Horowitz were powerful women who took care of their gay spouses and protected them from the outside world -- from people like you, that is.

[dewvey]

I am really sorry about my ignorance, but hey... how do you know about that?? You can see it? You see Richer is homosexual? You read it? He told it? I'm just interesting from where this information comes from.

[Brianjonestown]

You're not ignorant, unlike the poster to whom I was responding. But I hope it doesn't change your view of Richter to know that he was gay. Yes, he was quite "active" while on tours through Europe, especially in London where he frequented well-known random sex locations between recitals. It's the truth, but again, no big thing. He and Dorliac were strong partners in a marriage of convenience and respect, just like the Horowitzes.

[dewvey]

What??

People, when you say something like that, just try to prove it, even a little bit.

As for me, I know that Richter lived with Nina Dorliak more than 50 years.

[dewvey]

Oh, and also. In one book about Richter ( I forgot which one, maybe "Notebooks and Diaries") he sais that once he really wanted children with Nina, but it just didn't happen.

[dewvey]

says*

[belshep]

@dewvey It's Richter's own words in Borisov's "Po napravleniiu k Richteru". And Borosov had absolutely no reason to invent it. Why on earth do you bear this hired freak Annti Sairanen among your commentators? He has neither ear for music, no respect for Richter's privacy. All he thinks about is money and promoting his useless book. Whatever we need to know on Richter's private life he told us himself!

[vova47]

SO GREAT!!!Thanks a bunch!