Ivana Hong: 2007 World Championships, Qualifications, Bars

[gymnasticsfan8]

this was actually one of her better routines before she switched to WOGA. i know her releases are not good, but then again bars is not her best event. it wasnt bad.

[FlicTuckFull]

She bends her arms on her stalders. She bends her arms on her toe on 1.5. Her releases are AWFUL low, she struggles on her kips and she missed a crapload of handstands.

Seriously, it's not THAT hard to realize why she scored so low ...

[benrobinson77]

@FlicTuckFull ... yeah tell me about it ... she practically sat on the bar on the first release move. I'm all for gymnasts doing not-so-cookie-cutter routines but in her case, this german giant release move is not worth it unless she does it like Li Li. So glad se took it out.

[Sprunchy1]

@FlicTuckFull id like to see u do better

[FlicTuckFull]

@Sprunchy1

What I can and can't do does not change the blatant problems with this routine. So ...

[ethalhallow]

ok i thought she was ganna score higher way higher

[nikirififo]

The score is ok, she used to miss every turns, and that was costly, from 10 to 30° from vertical, and 0.5 for each after 30°. My deductions: -in stalder 0.1 bent arms -Li Li 0.3 height -endo½ 0.5 late turn -stalder full 0.1 bent arms 0.5 late turn -Ray 0.1 bent arms on catch -pike 1½ 0,5 late turn -half-in half-out 0.1 feet apart on landing 0,1 deep landing = 7.7 She finisher the turns already "falling", so no amplitude at all, that's her major problem here, she already lost 1.5 on three skills

[ASPaez1965]

memb91 don't be talking can you do that kind of tricks if so I wanna see

[Timtation69]

wonderful routine! The score is far too harsh! I see about 8.9 in deduction and that's me being harsh

[fanuch123]

they scored her lower cause she did an extra giant

[sqekcx]

yes, and if I were a judge I would have gave her a low score as well. very good form, but lots of turns finished after the handstand phase, extra giants throughout, and low aplitude on releases. the lack of height on the first one is reasonable, but the ordinary tkatchev should not be that low. this routine just doesn't really flow

[x3SummerNightsx3]

8.3!!! WTF? she deserved about a 9,2 not an 8.3! thats a disgrace to those judges, in their ability to not be able to judge gymnastics very well!

[bestelitegymnastever]

she did so great why did those stupid judges only give her a 8.3

[memd92]

well she sucked. she got a 14.8. that is insane. She should have been in the low 13's. she almost ate the mat on her dismount. Her tkatchev was clearing the bar by only 2 inches. most of her piroettes are late.....basically her gymnastics is garbage

[481095ymg2]

comes out to an 8.3 in execution!!! I still think she deserved higher though.

[481095ymg2]

I THINK I FINALLY FIGURED OUT WHY THEY GOT A 8.3 IN EXECUTION! I think that everytime she takes an extra giant she gets deducted. HERE'S MY BREAKDOWN: .1 for first handstand (bent arms/little off) .1 for bent arms on inbar stalder .3 for height on release .3 for handstand on endo .3 for handstand on stalder 1/1 .1 for extra giant .1 for height on transition .1 for kip/handstand after transition .1 for off on stalder 1 1/2 .1 for height on release .1 for 1/2 over the bar That(see next post)

[vontrappster]

@481095ymg2

Your assessment is quite incorrect. Giant swings are not deducted. The only time a giant is a deduction is when a gymnast uses more than two preceding the dismount.

[adla0nastia]

AMAZIIIIIIIIIIIIIING!

this is so good bar routine :]

[eMthegymnast]

14.300? wow. she god rid of basically everything for her new routine, no 1 1/2 pirhouette only 1 tkatchev and a pak. i dont get how she even has 10 skills.

[flipstyleRHM]

she tucks a little bit too early for her dismount, but overall very nice! I am glad she fixed the stalder error she made in day two of Nationals.

[gymgeek10]

i hope she gets a spot on the 2008 Olympic team! She really deserves it!

[organicgymnast24]

i do too but she's not old enough

[gymfan06]

she is...but only by about 2 weeks. :) she turns 16 in december

[eMthegymnast]

she is. she competed @ trials.

[servemyego21]

Did she mean to do the toe-on 1.5 turn into Tkachev? At Nats she did the toe-on full Tkachev. Nice upgrade if it was meant to be so! Cant wait for her to fight for a spot on the Beijing team!

[uwoeric]

The toe-on 1.5 was a cover up I think, but I agree it should be added to her routine!! It would also be nice if she'd connect her Stalder full to the overshoot.

[481095ymg2]

she did it as a cover up, she didn't have enough force to go over the bar so she changed it. you can see the kip after the tkatchev she went past handstand again on purpose so she could do her dismount. you could tell it was a cover up because when she did go past handstand she looked kinda awkward, like she hadn't really practiced it. the mistake actually led to her getting .2 extra in difficulty. (D to E, plus a .2 for the connection which would normally be a .1) I don't (see next post)

[vontrappster]

@481095ymg2

She did not gain anything by the mistake. Elements that do not pass through handstand, i.e. go over the bar, must be within 10 degrees of handstand to maintain their value, otherwise they are devalued one letter. This rule only applies to these elements that don't pass through handstand, so her toe on 3/2 would have been devalued to a D, because it was well outside 10 degrees.

It's cute that you're doing all of these little assessments, but you're horribly off.

[481095ymg2]

see how the judges came up with her execution score of an 8.3. the only things that i would take of was lack of height on releases and a couple of struggled kips. i would have given it a 9.1 or 9.2 (i'll just go with 9.15) for a 15.65. please vote if you think i'm right.