The Heating facility is situated next to the UHF and VHF incoherent scatter radars.
The Heater is used for ionospheric modification experiments applying high-power transmissions of high-frequency electro-magnetic waves to study plasma parameters in the ionosphere. The name Heating stems from the fact that these high power electromagnetic waves, which are transmitted into the ionosphre with high-gain antennas, heat the electrons and thus modify the plasma state.
I thought the Russian rocket story was bullshit from the Norwegian Defence dept for the people born yesterday to swallow. Then I considered Eiscat and HAARP and you guys here seem to know a lot about that technology (cripes where's my old physics book). But now I see that actually it was a high tech skyrocket firework for the Nobel Prize ceremony.
I agree Completely.. The best part is actually arguing with them, very entertaining.. The best sofar is that someone said that eiscat is some high security aerea.. Its a bloody racetrack right next to it.
@bjarneku -- Hey, I don't buy this was anything BUT a missile failure, unless the Russkies tested THEIR anti-ballistic directed-energy tech. But the ability of EISCAT, HAARP etc. to precisely aim, focus, fine-tune & pump high-energy radiowaves to target locations in air, on or under ground is not a secret. This is done by triangulated cophasing w/ 3 or more antenaes -- sort of how you can aim a stationary slingshot across a 45 degree or-so range by adjusting the position of your release hand.
Just to recap: two eiscat stations to my nortwest (svalbard and ramfjord), and two to my southeast(kiruna and Sodankylä), "beam" passing my house on the north side, heading east to west.
All conspiracy theorys aside. It is geographicly impossible that this is some eiscat experiment.. because if it wasnt from ramfjord or svalbard, it would have be to my south
But riddle me this.. How can this be eiscat when: Im east of 2 of the eiscat stations ( ramfjord and svalbard) ,and the two other are way to my south. But the fact is that the "beam" came from the east, heading west, north of my house. if this was eiscat the "beam" wouldnt pass my house on the north.. It would have to be south, so please explain to me how this is possible.. I'll flip the coin: prove that this can be done with radio waves..
I'm done posting until somebody presents legitimate evidence this is a missile, I have seen none to date. My observation is that people believe this is a missile not because it is supported by fact or appearance, but because the news said so. The internet is a liar's paradise, consequently I think internet users approach the medium with a good degree of critical thinking. The mass media is also a liar's paradise but unfortunately it is generally accepted as 'fact' without question.
@corfrancais -- Simple: This looks VERY much like the failed 1998 Chinese missile test which also cartwheeled out-of-control. At 10-20 miles altitude, the air is tenuous to none, what little wind is very uniform. There would be very little disturbance, only expansion and dissolution of exhaust-particle vapors into sub-zero near-vacuum. Reported infrared temp spectrum is consistent with exhaust gasses. Blue plume prob. result of 2nd stage solid-fuel burning before 3rd stage ignition/control-loss.
I don't know the verity of anything you say. These facilities can broadcast on a very low trajectory at very long distances. Once again I say, if you think this is a rocket prove it, show me other missile malfunctions that look like this, no cartoon simulations. The appearance and behavior does not fit a missile malfunction but is consistent with ionospheric heating.
yeah I know where the other facilitys are.. but if this was eiscats work the "beam" would be south, (heading west, towards eiscat in ramfjord) of were I live, It was north of me.. So what, did eiscat curve the "beam" then?
There's an article that specifically references the production of visible spirals related to ionospheric heating. Go to youtube video Z4WVAB1hzkI , scroll down under 'more info' and click on the link under "Viewable Spirals Created". This phenomenon is appearing near ionospheric heating facilities worldwide, just do some searching. I think there may be even more remarkable displays in the future as the technology advances, I wonder if they'll be attributed to 'swamp gas' or 'rockets'.
Youtube seems to be blocking links. Anyone who is curious google up the Eiscat website which is not secure except at higher levels and click on 'heating facility'. Even a cursory examination will reveal that they can do some pretty extroardinary things including plasma manipulation within the visible spectrum, they can manipulate plasmas and broadcast frequencies in a broad spectrum. There is more than one Eiscat facility in that part of the world, many experiments may be coordinated.
I'll say it again and again. If you think this is a rocket, show me. I'm not interested in simulations (somebody's cartoon), I'm interested in seeing it. Missile tests are generally heavily filmed and documented. Show me and I'll believe it's a missile. I haven't seen anything relative to this. I have no reason to believe contrary personal claims without evidence. I know somebody named George, maybe he's a former president?
But explain to me how it is possible that eiscat did this then.. Espessialy when the tail reached past our house that is east of the eiscat radar station.. Because I would love to know.. Mathias
Many scared people are worried that their little world might not actually be according to the BBC or CNN. Their smugness is often so exaggerated as to not appear genuine - CommonRaven for example seems to be bordering on the hysterical while he labels other people as crazy.
Open Google Earth, locate Tromso and place the POV roughly in the positions the photos were taken. Have a look for yourself what is at Ramfjordmoen behind the mountain. Or would you rather not?
@numb1010 Tromsø isn't the only EISCAT facility. There are, at least, another 3 more facilities which are kind of surrounding Tromsø: Kiruna, Sodankylä and Longyearbyen (source: the EISCAT website). In fact, the spiral could be seen from Trøndelag to Finnmark, which is a very large area for a simple missil launch screw. Oh, and one more creepy thing: according to the HAARP website, one of its own facilities is placed... guess where? In Tromsø! Looks like some people just got some new brand toy.
@Harlotito if only you conspiracy guys would put half the time you spend on this on a real education, you would be able to take a look at the data and confirm that this haarp/eiscat obsession of yours is bullshit..
@numb1010 That's it? A fallacy? So what's the evidence that proves all my bullshit wrong, Einstein? Enlight me. Unless you are not capable to notice that scorning my education quality doesn't really count as a valid argument that proves your point right, neither my point wrong. Next time make sure you provide the "so called" data and a clear thesis that discredits my bullshit. Or dream about it. Thank you.
@Harlotito i was trying to end my involvement in this thread, but ok then. you talk about other eiscat fascilities, but the ionospheric heater is in tromsø, so...
to be honest i was thinking of the haarp earthquake theories when i wrote that reply, and i was talking in general. i read lots of ideas about what haarp can do, but it never comes with data to confirm it. and physicists do not agree with the claims. i don´t understand how telling you to review data amounts to a fallacy.
@numb1010 Oh, you wanted me to explain! My bad, I thought you were trying to keep out. Fallacy ad hominem, which I exposed below as your attempt to discredit my point by scorning my education quality and not by an argument against my point per se. Simple, isn't it? And no, I never try to sound convincing by using fallacies. I might be wrong about what I say and discuss is true (I'm not saying I actually am), but never you'll see me act as a cheap conjurer of lousy speechs. No sophist here, sorry
@Harlotito that´s one way to see it.. here is another!
since i found your argument so weak, and would expect you to at least check if the other eiscat locations have an ionospheric heater, i didn´t even bother with your argument.
to your other point. i did a calculation (based on rough numbers) to see what height the rocket must have been at to be visible from trøndelag, an i got about 100 km. hopefully someone can enlighten us to what the expected height of the bulava rocket at stage 3 is.
@Harlotito you also commented on something about a connection between haarp and tromsø (i presume eiscat). i do not know about this. the search function at the haarp website gives me one hit, which is just info about similar facilities (maybe you can provide a link). to me this looks like pure speculation about sinister intentions, so i won´t go any further for now.
once again i urge you (in the least ad hominem way possible), please research this stuff before you try to make arguments about it
@Harlotito so.. after much back and forth you got your wish. i replied to your arguments, and then... silence! please dude, i was at least hoping to hear your views on my reply (maybe you could also elaborate on what you hinted to be a connection between haarp and eiscat).
"but never you'll see me act as a cheap conjurer of lousy speechs" - well, of course not, but could you please at least have the decency to follow through when you invite to a discussion?
@eric0u812 i didn´t see anything. i live in oslo, about 1000 km south of the most southern spotting location. if you look at my first post i say i saw a picture taken from a location i know, and from that concluded the origin couldn´t possibly have been eiscat
triangulation done by others shows the origin to be the white sea area (watch?v=NOIcifd7bZc - i see something has happend to the map plotting of the breivika location, i willl send you a pm with a llnk to a map showing the exact house)
Now there's a couple intelligent comments. Begs the question of who's the real whack job here. Even a very cursory investigation of HAARP and EISCAT reveals that they are not simple research facilities. There is a high degree of security around these facilities that goes far beyond 'research'. It's been known for decades that there are potentially dramatic military implications from facilities like this. If one is going to argue try to present reason instead of name-calling.
Easy to make a claim like this without evidence. I could claim I have a friend who is in charge of the CIA. I suggest you watch Jesse Ventura's attempt to just get near a HAARP facility on a youtube video. More name calling, no evidence, Sounds like you already made up YOUR mind. If you think it's a rocket show me other rockets that look just like this.
You think it's like an electromagnetic field? It can be.. I'm watching it again now watch?v=KMUhS-S0rGk for me initially it looks like fire but after it seems disappear with the spiral but slowly than it. Maybe! Eiscat and Haarp maybe part of project bluebeam too i know it. Nice observation!
@sdirru i would say blue beem because haarp is a wepon this is more like a test to see what thay can do as far as perjections not so much a electromagnetic field because in a field it would pulse and not a content show of light
too bad you don't even know how a 1.5V battery works on your car-alarm infra-red thingy, so no wonder you don't even see the vast possibilities and observable out-comes of some huge electro-magnetic frequency generators,, no spinning rocket stays in the same place, no spinning smoke trails keep a geometrically perfect spiral ratio. at those distances, the missile theory gets even more ridiculous. You see a projected beam(?), and the affected atmosphere layer changes into the visible spectrum...
maybe its exactly because you dont have a clue how radar/microwave/magnetism work that you'd rather believe your bs. let alone the led on your infrared "thinghy"
you cannot fire "huge electromagnetic frequency generators" up the sky and expect fireworks visible to everybody.
we constantly do it anyway wonder why the atmosphere layer doesnt get visible all the time lol where do you read this stuff?and btw eiscat is just a research program no government or military so they would admit it.
I think you folks need to learn a bit more about how malfunctioning rockets behave in the upper atmosphere. Thanks for keeping my Alcoa stock high in the meantime.
@sirkalin1 there are videos of other rockets coming down over rocket ranges in the USA, they look exactly the same, you can see them from different angles too.
Time comes when you have to ask yourself who is the fool. the people who put out the moronic conspiracy trash, or you for taking it seriously.
i dont know why but i always go for the unbelivable stuff like i dont belive its a rocket i belive its actually "the blue beam project of EISCAT" hha :)
Se non sono sperimentazioni scalari di EISCAT e HAARP ,potrebbe trattarsi del progetto BlueBeam....tanto per restare in ambito militare/governativo....
In addition to the incoherent scatter radars, EISCAT also operates an Ionospheric Heater facility at Ramfjordmoen (including a Dynasonde) to support various active plasma physics experiments in the high latitude ionosphere.
It is actually described in EISCAT's own documents on their own site. It is called "HF pump-induced plasma turbulence" and one of it's applications is "Artificial Auroras". So the question remains, why is this hushed up?
@jh4dc5s You can start at eiscat dot se, then search the term "ionosphere heating". You can find lots of info there. The big transmitter system is at Tromsoe, Norway, but there are several receiving antenna systems at different locations. That way they can pickup the signal from many angles and then build up a 3D model of the heated volume up in the ionosphere.
@jh4dc5s I should mention also that the ionosphere is the lower part of the thermosphere and it starts way up at 80km. The spiral and specially the blue streak was formed much closer to the ground imo.
I've seen that simulation of the ICBM failure. It means nothing to me, SpongeBob is a simulation too. It's very interesting how quickly this simulation came out, either it was prepared before the event or there's somebody sitting around with way too much time on his hands. It doesn't explain a number of the unusual apparent characteristics. Pseudo-science has nothing to do with this, it's a matter of practical observation. It doesn't look anything like a failed missile anyone has ever seen.
EISCAT and it's ionospheric heating facility is no "pseudo science". It's real, it's no secret. Why is it not even mentioned as a hypothesis by the mainstream media?
Jan Petter Jorgensen who took those very good long exposure photos, says he stood at Dampskipskaia in Tromso and facing east. Eiscat is located 10km to southeast from there. So it fits precisely the location behind the mountain ridge where that blue streak is pointing. That the media fails to recognize this is proof that this is a psy-op on the dumbed down public.
Surprising, the hostility to my opinion that this is not a missile. Watch many videos beginning to end. This comes out of nowhere, there is no rocket drive shooting into the area. It's as if the spiral generates out of nothing. The spiral hovers, it does shoot through the air as even a defective missile would. No explosion, no crash, the spiral expands, dissipates simultaneously with the blue plasma stream, like a switch was flipped. We certainly know governments don't lie to us....
hanno gia cominciato a creare effetti ottici,o elaborazioni olografiche,per illudere la gente su alcune cose e allarmarle per altre,state attenti e molto facile distinguere una cosa vera da una immagine olografica,basta che cominciate a guardare e vedere con il vostro cervello e sopratutto fare il contrario di quello che dicono governi e media corrotti e traditori
personalmente credo si tratti di esperimenti dell'EISCAT anche perchè solitamente un missile balistico crea un wormhole e non una cosa del genere. Anche gli stessi giornali come corriere e repubblica sono andati in contraddizione dichiarando prima che le autorità avessero smentito il test missilistico ed oggi invece dicono che era un test di quel tipo. Gli studi di Tesla hanno portato allo sviluppo delle tecnologie haarp per i più un ente di ricerca sconosciuto.
Inoltre Pierluigi Ighina aiutante di Marconi che collaborò con Tesla dice che Marconi aveva scoperto l'energia attraverso la forma a spirale del guscio della lumaca; dal sole parte una spirale gialla e dalla terra una blu (ti sembra simile?). Ighina proseguendo gli studi di Marconi ha determinato che l'incontro dell'energia solare (positiva) e l'energia terrestre (negativa) forma la materia e la pulsazione di questo incontro è l'atomo magnetico..
Sia Tesla sia Ighina inoltre sostenevano di poter modificare le condizioni atmosferiche. Ighina parla di particelle di alluminio polarizzate. Tesla studiava la ionosfera.
Inoltre ho notato parecchie coincidenze tra i luoghi di avvenimenti strani come questo e la presenza nelle vicinanze di strutture come l'haarp. Poi ognuno è libero di pensare ciò che vuole io la penso così. :)
Molto interessante! Se questa teoria fosse vera sarebbe una cosa curiosa e affascinante al pari della teoria ufo, se fosse stato un esperimento cmq penso avrebbero avvisato la popolazione prima, quindi presumo sia una cosa completamente indipendente e per questo appunto affascinante!
sei sicuro che per gli esperimenti avvisano prima la popolazione? anche nel caso del missile che qui qualcuno sostiene che era in programma da tempo nessuno è stato avvisato... forse nemmeno obama... Ti porgo un altro esempio: secondo te i nazi avvisavano i tedeschi che usavano gli ebrei come cavie? Anche quelli erano esperimenti... Secondo me inoltre conducono da anni sulle nostre teste esperimenti sul controllo atmosferico e funziona proprio unendo le teorie di tesla e ighina...
con gli aerei ti spruzzano in testa alluminio, bario, silicio e altro che poi polarizzano con le antenne dipolari situate in posti come l'haarp. Negli ultimi tempi ce la stanno vendendo come un modo per contrastare il riscaldamento globale... non ti fidare troppo dei governi. buona serata bello
Ok messa così è convincente, però ovvio si deve essere trattato di un'esperimento fallito, quella reazione non deve essere stata prevista, nell'interesse anche degli autori... visto la paura che hanno messo alla gente. Cmq mi è venuta voglia di documentarmi di più! Grazie quindi! Queste cose sono molto interessanti
Relax every one. Even it was aHARP program , even it was alien , they will always cover it up. It,s so easy in that particularly, case. So you never no what reali happen. Is dere any one to disprove that.
I didn't call you a moron for requesting a link, I called Whatup5656 a moron for calling everyone who said Russia had confirmed that it was a missile test a moron. Please read who the response was to before you go negging my comments. He made a disrespectful and uninformed comment, and I was correcting him.
in other vid my first source is haarp official website. The link to wikipedia is for Tesla who was described approximately right. For moron ok, it not appear in order.
now: "The Russian government and Norwegian government both released official statements" So? I've noticed you that governments 24h before official statements had denied the launch... you understand me about "wormhole" so it's useless your note.
This comment has received too many negative votesshow
Anyone thinking this is a missile test is deluded, trust your senses and not misinformation, missiles don't do this. This is clearly HAARP, functioning as I understand it's supposed to. Directed energy hits the ionosphere where it resonates and is amplified, that's exactly what you see here. It's been reported for years that there is a HAARP base in Norway, this is consistent. I'm quite sure this was a demonstration for Obama's benefit as well as perhaps a few others.
You did not state why you think it is not a missile engine gone rogue. Nor have you explained why HAARP is likely. Before calling others "deluded," why not explain with your "expertise?" If it was HAARP, why didn't all the area lights go out?
It's perfectly reasonable to use Wikipedia in this instance to point out that it exists. It doesn't prove what they actually do there, that wasn't the point. It's location is exactly where the incident occurred in the high res pictures. Quit being a troll.
Oh, for the love of god. It was a leaking rocket stage. Physics can explain reality quite nicely if you bother to turn off Art Bell's radio show and do some real research.
Your vid is a favorite on Leste)Dili
ughkane614h 2 weeks ago
the haarp icecat is behind it... or it could even be a giantic hologram
MrYildirim2635 7 months ago
EIS-CAT get it? EGYPT? CATS? giza death star?.........mr joseph p farrell.
noodlesmealey 9 months ago
@noodlesmealey exactly :-D
BlindingScientist 1 month ago
Damn i thought these were alien crafts traveling to earth through wormholes.. Fuuu
MrAnalpfropfen 10 months ago
legalize weed and b FREE america
MrGodam29 1 year ago
Fun to fake pretty phenomena and get morons to believe it.
robertgift 1 year ago
so did anybody ever find an explanation to this weird sight?
gootch420 1 year ago
It's a fucking rocket you chowderheads.
neverhoodyn 1 year ago
@neverhoodyn ya looksjust like one to all blue and spirally
yourallstoopid 1 year ago
@neverhoodyn they said it was a rocket it must have been...authority never lies
yourallstoopid 1 year ago
@yourallstoopid we can't trust govenrmnet anymore, fuck them
gootch420 1 year ago
The Heating facility is situated next to the UHF and VHF incoherent scatter radars.
The Heater is used for ionospheric modification experiments applying high-power transmissions of high-frequency electro-magnetic waves to study plasma parameters in the ionosphere. The name Heating stems from the fact that these high power electromagnetic waves, which are transmitted into the ionosphre with high-gain antennas, heat the electrons and thus modify the plasma state.
DOMY94FF 1 year ago
What consequences these experiments may have on the ice and icebergs dislocation in that area ?
Quelles conséquences réelles ces experiences peuvent elles avoir sur la fonte des glaces et dislocation des glaciers ?
HAARP - EISCAT - Science or disaster ...???
DOMY94FF 1 year ago
for me like a galakticel sign..
like a mirror ..
just more little...luck at the universum (Galaxis)
then jou will see it in much bigger ;O)
ore it is from the techniks from human nature..
from the backround...projekt bloobeem ;O)
ore something like that...?
i am not sure ....
1dragonleader 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
I thought the Russian rocket story was bullshit from the Norwegian Defence dept for the people born yesterday to swallow. Then I considered Eiscat and HAARP and you guys here seem to know a lot about that technology (cripes where's my old physics book). But now I see that actually it was a high tech skyrocket firework for the Nobel Prize ceremony.
Lenout 1 year ago
@CommonRaven
I agree Completely.. The best part is actually arguing with them, very entertaining.. The best sofar is that someone said that eiscat is some high security aerea.. Its a bloody racetrack right next to it.
Take care
bjarneku 2 years ago
Hahahahahahaha I WIN.. closed your account even... chickensh!t.
Was it the way that eiscat locations dont mach to where the ROCKET'S trojectory was?
bjarneku 2 years ago
@bjarneku -- Hey, I don't buy this was anything BUT a missile failure, unless the Russkies tested THEIR anti-ballistic directed-energy tech. But the ability of EISCAT, HAARP etc. to precisely aim, focus, fine-tune & pump high-energy radiowaves to target locations in air, on or under ground is not a secret. This is done by triangulated cophasing w/ 3 or more antenaes -- sort of how you can aim a stationary slingshot across a 45 degree or-so range by adjusting the position of your release hand.
starmanskye 2 years ago
Just to recap: two eiscat stations to my nortwest (svalbard and ramfjord), and two to my southeast(kiruna and Sodankylä), "beam" passing my house on the north side, heading east to west.
All conspiracy theorys aside. It is geographicly impossible that this is some eiscat experiment.. because if it wasnt from ramfjord or svalbard, it would have be to my south
How convenient that you decided to stop posting
bjarneku 2 years ago
But riddle me this.. How can this be eiscat when: Im east of 2 of the eiscat stations ( ramfjord and svalbard) ,and the two other are way to my south. But the fact is that the "beam" came from the east, heading west, north of my house. if this was eiscat the "beam" wouldnt pass my house on the north.. It would have to be south, so please explain to me how this is possible.. I'll flip the coin: prove that this can be done with radio waves..
bjarneku 2 years ago
Go to spellconsulting com. there youl have the rockets trjectory
bjarneku 2 years ago
I'm done posting until somebody presents legitimate evidence this is a missile, I have seen none to date. My observation is that people believe this is a missile not because it is supported by fact or appearance, but because the news said so. The internet is a liar's paradise, consequently I think internet users approach the medium with a good degree of critical thinking. The mass media is also a liar's paradise but unfortunately it is generally accepted as 'fact' without question.
corfrancais 2 years ago
@corfrancais -- Simple: This looks VERY much like the failed 1998 Chinese missile test which also cartwheeled out-of-control. At 10-20 miles altitude, the air is tenuous to none, what little wind is very uniform. There would be very little disturbance, only expansion and dissolution of exhaust-particle vapors into sub-zero near-vacuum. Reported infrared temp spectrum is consistent with exhaust gasses. Blue plume prob. result of 2nd stage solid-fuel burning before 3rd stage ignition/control-loss.
starmanskye 2 years ago
I don't know the verity of anything you say. These facilities can broadcast on a very low trajectory at very long distances. Once again I say, if you think this is a rocket prove it, show me other missile malfunctions that look like this, no cartoon simulations. The appearance and behavior does not fit a missile malfunction but is consistent with ionospheric heating.
corfrancais 2 years ago
yeah I know where the other facilitys are.. but if this was eiscats work the "beam" would be south, (heading west, towards eiscat in ramfjord) of were I live, It was north of me.. So what, did eiscat curve the "beam" then?
bjarneku 2 years ago
There's an article that specifically references the production of visible spirals related to ionospheric heating. Go to youtube video Z4WVAB1hzkI , scroll down under 'more info' and click on the link under "Viewable Spirals Created". This phenomenon is appearing near ionospheric heating facilities worldwide, just do some searching. I think there may be even more remarkable displays in the future as the technology advances, I wonder if they'll be attributed to 'swamp gas' or 'rockets'.
corfrancais 2 years ago 2
Youtube seems to be blocking links. Anyone who is curious google up the Eiscat website which is not secure except at higher levels and click on 'heating facility'. Even a cursory examination will reveal that they can do some pretty extroardinary things including plasma manipulation within the visible spectrum, they can manipulate plasmas and broadcast frequencies in a broad spectrum. There is more than one Eiscat facility in that part of the world, many experiments may be coordinated.
corfrancais 2 years ago
I'll say it again and again. If you think this is a rocket, show me. I'm not interested in simulations (somebody's cartoon), I'm interested in seeing it. Missile tests are generally heavily filmed and documented. Show me and I'll believe it's a missile. I haven't seen anything relative to this. I have no reason to believe contrary personal claims without evidence. I know somebody named George, maybe he's a former president?
corfrancais 2 years ago
Comment removed
bjarneku 2 years ago
But explain to me how it is possible that eiscat did this then.. Espessialy when the tail reached past our house that is east of the eiscat radar station.. Because I would love to know.. Mathias
bjarneku 2 years ago
Comment removed
bjarneku 2 years ago
Many scared people are worried that their little world might not actually be according to the BBC or CNN. Their smugness is often so exaggerated as to not appear genuine - CommonRaven for example seems to be bordering on the hysterical while he labels other people as crazy.
Open Google Earth, locate Tromso and place the POV roughly in the positions the photos were taken. Have a look for yourself what is at Ramfjordmoen behind the mountain. Or would you rather not?
rilo200 2 years ago 12
how bout you just tell me whats behind the mountain and ill believe you .. i dont feel like going through the trouble :)
drhatchback 2 years ago
just saw the antennas, something else?
DUBPlateDAN91 2 years ago
@rilo200 put the coordinates up i looked and found nothing
jasonfish07 2 years ago
I'm guessing trees, trees sounds likely.
HeathrowSurveillance 2 years ago
Wait, are you trying to say that there's a EISCAT station outside of Tromsø because I doubt anyone was questioning you on that fact.
You do realize that means absolutely nothing about anything don't you?
HeathrowSurveillance 2 years ago
you know, i grew up in the north of norway and have seen a picture of the phenomena taken from a house next to where my aunt used to live..
it was not in the direction of tromsø (which is north), but east..
what lies there you ask? the northern parts of sweden and finland, but more importantly the kola peninsula and the white sea.
you guys can belive whatever you like (and call me a nwo shill to protect your "theory" :D), but the light phenomena did not come from eiscat..
numb1010 2 years ago 2
@numb1010 Tromsø isn't the only EISCAT facility. There are, at least, another 3 more facilities which are kind of surrounding Tromsø: Kiruna, Sodankylä and Longyearbyen (source: the EISCAT website). In fact, the spiral could be seen from Trøndelag to Finnmark, which is a very large area for a simple missil launch screw. Oh, and one more creepy thing: according to the HAARP website, one of its own facilities is placed... guess where? In Tromsø! Looks like some people just got some new brand toy.
Harlotito 1 year ago
@Harlotito if only you conspiracy guys would put half the time you spend on this on a real education, you would be able to take a look at the data and confirm that this haarp/eiscat obsession of yours is bullshit..
i guess i´m a dreamer... :)
numb1010 1 year ago
@numb1010 That's it? A fallacy? So what's the evidence that proves all my bullshit wrong, Einstein? Enlight me. Unless you are not capable to notice that scorning my education quality doesn't really count as a valid argument that proves your point right, neither my point wrong. Next time make sure you provide the "so called" data and a clear thesis that discredits my bullshit. Or dream about it. Thank you.
Harlotito 1 year ago
@Harlotito i was trying to end my involvement in this thread, but ok then. you talk about other eiscat fascilities, but the ionospheric heater is in tromsø, so...
to be honest i was thinking of the haarp earthquake theories when i wrote that reply, and i was talking in general. i read lots of ideas about what haarp can do, but it never comes with data to confirm it. and physicists do not agree with the claims. i don´t understand how telling you to review data amounts to a fallacy.
numb1010 1 year ago
@numb1010 It's pretty easy: read about fallacies.
Harlotito 1 year ago
@Harlotito so... what fallacy? and do you spot the similarities between our replies.. come on man.. consistency is a bitch now, ain´t it?
numb1010 1 year ago
@numb1010 Oh, you wanted me to explain! My bad, I thought you were trying to keep out. Fallacy ad hominem, which I exposed below as your attempt to discredit my point by scorning my education quality and not by an argument against my point per se. Simple, isn't it? And no, I never try to sound convincing by using fallacies. I might be wrong about what I say and discuss is true (I'm not saying I actually am), but never you'll see me act as a cheap conjurer of lousy speechs. No sophist here, sorry
Harlotito 1 year ago
@Harlotito that´s one way to see it.. here is another!
since i found your argument so weak, and would expect you to at least check if the other eiscat locations have an ionospheric heater, i didn´t even bother with your argument.
to your other point. i did a calculation (based on rough numbers) to see what height the rocket must have been at to be visible from trøndelag, an i got about 100 km. hopefully someone can enlighten us to what the expected height of the bulava rocket at stage 3 is.
numb1010 1 year ago
@Harlotito you also commented on something about a connection between haarp and tromsø (i presume eiscat). i do not know about this. the search function at the haarp website gives me one hit, which is just info about similar facilities (maybe you can provide a link). to me this looks like pure speculation about sinister intentions, so i won´t go any further for now.
once again i urge you (in the least ad hominem way possible), please research this stuff before you try to make arguments about it
numb1010 1 year ago
@Harlotito so.. after much back and forth you got your wish. i replied to your arguments, and then... silence! please dude, i was at least hoping to hear your views on my reply (maybe you could also elaborate on what you hinted to be a connection between haarp and eiscat).
"but never you'll see me act as a cheap conjurer of lousy speechs" - well, of course not, but could you please at least have the decency to follow through when you invite to a discussion?
numb1010 1 year ago
@numb1010 im not douting u but would like to here from u in ur own words what u saw that night thx
eric
eric0u812 1 year ago
@eric0u812 i didn´t see anything. i live in oslo, about 1000 km south of the most southern spotting location. if you look at my first post i say i saw a picture taken from a location i know, and from that concluded the origin couldn´t possibly have been eiscat
triangulation done by others shows the origin to be the white sea area (watch?v=NOIcifd7bZc - i see something has happend to the map plotting of the breivika location, i willl send you a pm with a llnk to a map showing the exact house)
numb1010 1 year ago
@rilo200 Not finding it man....Found Tromso, but, there's nothing over the mountain. What are the coordinates?
ja0401 10 months ago
Now there's a couple intelligent comments. Begs the question of who's the real whack job here. Even a very cursory investigation of HAARP and EISCAT reveals that they are not simple research facilities. There is a high degree of security around these facilities that goes far beyond 'research'. It's been known for decades that there are potentially dramatic military implications from facilities like this. If one is going to argue try to present reason instead of name-calling.
corfrancais 2 years ago 2
Comment removed
bjarneku 2 years ago
Easy to make a claim like this without evidence. I could claim I have a friend who is in charge of the CIA. I suggest you watch Jesse Ventura's attempt to just get near a HAARP facility on a youtube video. More name calling, no evidence, Sounds like you already made up YOUR mind. If you think it's a rocket show me other rockets that look just like this.
corfrancais 2 years ago
Comment removed
bjarneku 2 years ago
In some picture, there is a big light that seems to be coming from the mountains..
KazeReload 2 years ago
yes... it looks like fire in some videos
sdirru 2 years ago 2
It looks like there is a floodlight reflecting something in the air to me, strange
KazeReload 2 years ago
You think it's like an electromagnetic field? It can be.. I'm watching it again now watch?v=KMUhS-S0rGk for me initially it looks like fire but after it seems disappear with the spiral but slowly than it. Maybe! Eiscat and Haarp maybe part of project bluebeam too i know it. Nice observation!
sdirru 2 years ago
Comment removed
bjarneku 2 years ago
@sdirru i would say blue beem because haarp is a wepon this is more like a test to see what thay can do as far as perjections not so much a electromagnetic field because in a field it would pulse and not a content show of light
eric
eric0u812 1 year ago
boring
coolbluezzzz 2 years ago
too bad russia already admitted it was a missle test they were doing and went wrong. what you see is a spinning rocket.
razielze 2 years ago
Not. A rocket can't spin in several minutes, and first Russia did not confirm this, only afterwords. (conveniently)
Since when did they (Russian officials) speak the truth? "we've fired a missile over Norway, no harm intended. hmh.."
This is EISCAT and nothing else. I promise you there's no better and more specific explanation.
Look where the blue beam leads you. Down to the mountains. There you shall find EISCAT. And the truth.
Look it up. then comment....(and don't trust mainstream media)
Totalreformer 2 years ago
too bad you don't even know how a 1.5V battery works on your car-alarm infra-red thingy, so no wonder you don't even see the vast possibilities and observable out-comes of some huge electro-magnetic frequency generators,, no spinning rocket stays in the same place, no spinning smoke trails keep a geometrically perfect spiral ratio. at those distances, the missile theory gets even more ridiculous. You see a projected beam(?), and the affected atmosphere layer changes into the visible spectrum...
redunndant 2 years ago
maybe its exactly because you dont have a clue how radar/microwave/magnetism work that you'd rather believe your bs. let alone the led on your infrared "thinghy"
you cannot fire "huge electromagnetic frequency generators" up the sky and expect fireworks visible to everybody.
we constantly do it anyway wonder why the atmosphere layer doesnt get visible all the time lol where do you read this stuff?and btw eiscat is just a research program no government or military so they would admit it.
razielze 2 years ago
I think you folks need to learn a bit more about how malfunctioning rockets behave in the upper atmosphere. Thanks for keeping my Alcoa stock high in the meantime.
TimeLapseSteve 2 years ago 2
They don't behave like this.
sirkalin1 2 years ago
@sirkalin1 there are videos of other rockets coming down over rocket ranges in the USA, they look exactly the same, you can see them from different angles too.
Time comes when you have to ask yourself who is the fool. the people who put out the moronic conspiracy trash, or you for taking it seriously.
marsCubed 2 years ago 2
Nibiru is come? watch?v=d_bNeR6IZWU
TrutherD1 2 years ago
es un proyector
tituel 2 years ago
Comment removed
421292129 2 years ago
i dont know why but i always go for the unbelivable stuff like i dont belive its a rocket i belive its actually "the blue beam project of EISCAT" hha :)
DS42296 2 years ago
Se non sono sperimentazioni scalari di EISCAT e HAARP ,potrebbe trattarsi del progetto BlueBeam....tanto per restare in ambito militare/governativo....
sampeiekanai 2 years ago
Best theory I've seen so far.
Vinseneb 2 years ago
An ionospheric heater is an array of antennas which are used for heating the ionosphere, and which can create artificial aurora.
keflarjeoffrey 2 years ago
In addition to the incoherent scatter radars, EISCAT also operates an Ionospheric Heater facility at Ramfjordmoen (including a Dynasonde) to support various active plasma physics experiments in the high latitude ionosphere.
found on the EISCAT website
keflarjeoffrey 2 years ago
Comment removed
flakebiter 2 years ago
but NISSE was in march.
rabagast19 2 years ago
/.57 is cleaely enhanced
grinchy01 2 years ago
It is actually described in EISCAT's own documents on their own site. It is called "HF pump-induced plasma turbulence" and one of it's applications is "Artificial Auroras". So the question remains, why is this hushed up?
rabola55 2 years ago 10
thank you! :D
sdirru 2 years ago
@rabola55 Because their going to beam the NWO logo over all of the land masses with this tech. It Charges Chemtrail particles to create the plasma.
jh4dc5s 1 year ago
@rabola55 Thanks for that information. I knew it was plasma before i read your comment. Can you provide a link?
jh4dc5s 1 year ago
@jh4dc5s You can start at eiscat dot se, then search the term "ionosphere heating". You can find lots of info there. The big transmitter system is at Tromsoe, Norway, but there are several receiving antenna systems at different locations. That way they can pickup the signal from many angles and then build up a 3D model of the heated volume up in the ionosphere.
rabola55 1 year ago
@jh4dc5s I should mention also that the ionosphere is the lower part of the thermosphere and it starts way up at 80km. The spiral and specially the blue streak was formed much closer to the ground imo.
rabola55 1 year ago
I've seen that simulation of the ICBM failure. It means nothing to me, SpongeBob is a simulation too. It's very interesting how quickly this simulation came out, either it was prepared before the event or there's somebody sitting around with way too much time on his hands. It doesn't explain a number of the unusual apparent characteristics. Pseudo-science has nothing to do with this, it's a matter of practical observation. It doesn't look anything like a failed missile anyone has ever seen.
corfrancais 2 years ago
EISCAT and it's ionospheric heating facility is no "pseudo science". It's real, it's no secret. Why is it not even mentioned as a hypothesis by the mainstream media?
rabola55 2 years ago 3
because for media haarp not exist... ignorance is power :(
sdirru 2 years ago
Check this video simulation for the Bulava ICBM failure v=Zx8i5EfmYU4
It fits perfectly the results, no need to evoke all the pseudo scientific crap.
QueueBionique 2 years ago
Also google the term "HAARP bullseye in the sky". It has been done there too, in Alaska.
rabola55 2 years ago
Jan Petter Jorgensen who took those very good long exposure photos, says he stood at Dampskipskaia in Tromso and facing east. Eiscat is located 10km to southeast from there. So it fits precisely the location behind the mountain ridge where that blue streak is pointing. That the media fails to recognize this is proof that this is a psy-op on the dumbed down public.
rabola55 2 years ago
jacob's ladder
mutemenot 2 years ago
Surprising, the hostility to my opinion that this is not a missile. Watch many videos beginning to end. This comes out of nowhere, there is no rocket drive shooting into the area. It's as if the spiral generates out of nothing. The spiral hovers, it does shoot through the air as even a defective missile would. No explosion, no crash, the spiral expands, dissipates simultaneously with the blue plasma stream, like a switch was flipped. We certainly know governments don't lie to us....
corfrancais 2 years ago
This is only unsuccessful launch of new RUSSIAN rocket "BYLAWA" at the White Sea. Problem was at the final stage of rocket. =(((
Snopy13101988 2 years ago
...
Snopy13101988 2 years ago
This is similar to a HAARP system. Look it up.
flakebiter 2 years ago
Heres another simple explanation for everyone to understand :
watch?v=mwxzvqRWOBo
elovation 2 years ago 2
more videos?
sarfios 2 years ago
i don't know!! i've found only these photos and videos.
sdirru 2 years ago
it coul be a haarp or a eiscat, but it´s a signal to the today obama- nobel, all the world it´s pendent to the speach of obama
tintbig 2 years ago
No, it was not a missle. Look up HAARP and EISCAT. it's in the damn video info people.
boostedflange 2 years ago
The same exact phenomena occurred in China in 2007. It was the result of the same test-firing mishap.
NaienaArygos 2 years ago
I can't found it. Can you give me a link?
sdirru 2 years ago
Correct, it was a Missile from a Russian nuclear submarine.
xerasi 2 years ago
nope it was eiscat.
outled 2 years ago
Missle test? are you retarded? what missles has ever done that? let me get in my x-wing and bust up with some proton torpedos...
Russian Eiscat, same thing as HAARP. causing crazy things in the Ionisphere.
boostedflange 2 years ago
It was a failed missile test
wyrwich 2 years ago
Wow.
I'm so very impressed by the clanky-arse face-eating monkey music you put in the vid.
Were you smoking crack or something?
kittypie070 2 years ago
lol?! you're idiot or what?
sdirru 2 years ago
Plaid - Air Locked!
A Sven Väth mix back from 1999 starts with this :)
Kacsaszezon 2 years ago
Comment removed
btothab1 2 years ago
theres mini black holes, why not mini galaxies ? this one just burned out in our atomosphere. just kidding on the mini-galaxy part.
Gizziiusa 2 years ago
arriva megatron!
makellaro 2 years ago
hanno gia cominciato a creare effetti ottici,o elaborazioni olografiche,per illudere la gente su alcune cose e allarmarle per altre,state attenti e molto facile distinguere una cosa vera da una immagine olografica,basta che cominciate a guardare e vedere con il vostro cervello e sopratutto fare il contrario di quello che dicono governi e media corrotti e traditori
monkeydesign2007 2 years ago 2
aliens opening up a portal too close to earth, dumb gray aliens.
ginito 2 years ago
magari fosse vero
kettysano 2 years ago
secondo te di cosa si tratta?
MURApk 2 years ago
personalmente credo si tratti di esperimenti dell'EISCAT anche perchè solitamente un missile balistico crea un wormhole e non una cosa del genere. Anche gli stessi giornali come corriere e repubblica sono andati in contraddizione dichiarando prima che le autorità avessero smentito il test missilistico ed oggi invece dicono che era un test di quel tipo. Gli studi di Tesla hanno portato allo sviluppo delle tecnologie haarp per i più un ente di ricerca sconosciuto.
sdirru 2 years ago
Inoltre Pierluigi Ighina aiutante di Marconi che collaborò con Tesla dice che Marconi aveva scoperto l'energia attraverso la forma a spirale del guscio della lumaca; dal sole parte una spirale gialla e dalla terra una blu (ti sembra simile?). Ighina proseguendo gli studi di Marconi ha determinato che l'incontro dell'energia solare (positiva) e l'energia terrestre (negativa) forma la materia e la pulsazione di questo incontro è l'atomo magnetico..
sdirru 2 years ago
Sia Tesla sia Ighina inoltre sostenevano di poter modificare le condizioni atmosferiche. Ighina parla di particelle di alluminio polarizzate. Tesla studiava la ionosfera.
Inoltre ho notato parecchie coincidenze tra i luoghi di avvenimenti strani come questo e la presenza nelle vicinanze di strutture come l'haarp. Poi ognuno è libero di pensare ciò che vuole io la penso così. :)
sdirru 2 years ago
Molto interessante! Se questa teoria fosse vera sarebbe una cosa curiosa e affascinante al pari della teoria ufo, se fosse stato un esperimento cmq penso avrebbero avvisato la popolazione prima, quindi presumo sia una cosa completamente indipendente e per questo appunto affascinante!
MURApk 2 years ago
sei sicuro che per gli esperimenti avvisano prima la popolazione? anche nel caso del missile che qui qualcuno sostiene che era in programma da tempo nessuno è stato avvisato... forse nemmeno obama... Ti porgo un altro esempio: secondo te i nazi avvisavano i tedeschi che usavano gli ebrei come cavie? Anche quelli erano esperimenti... Secondo me inoltre conducono da anni sulle nostre teste esperimenti sul controllo atmosferico e funziona proprio unendo le teorie di tesla e ighina...
sdirru 2 years ago
con gli aerei ti spruzzano in testa alluminio, bario, silicio e altro che poi polarizzano con le antenne dipolari situate in posti come l'haarp. Negli ultimi tempi ce la stanno vendendo come un modo per contrastare il riscaldamento globale... non ti fidare troppo dei governi. buona serata bello
sdirru 2 years ago
Ok messa così è convincente, però ovvio si deve essere trattato di un'esperimento fallito, quella reazione non deve essere stata prevista, nell'interesse anche degli autori... visto la paura che hanno messo alla gente. Cmq mi è venuta voglia di documentarmi di più! Grazie quindi! Queste cose sono molto interessanti
MURApk 2 years ago
Russian military has confirmed . How convenient .
marsto71 2 years ago
Who is doing awesome music playing in the video??
kitfuntastik 2 years ago
plaid - air locked
sdirru 2 years ago
Relax every one. Even it was aHARP program , even it was alien , they will always cover it up. It,s so easy in that particularly, case. So you never no what reali happen. Is dere any one to disprove that.
marsto71 2 years ago
Yes but everytime there's something the sky people like you shit there pants and automatically believe it's some Alien or some shit.
Drewz0rd 2 years ago 7
I fuochi d'artificiooooo.... Hehehehe...
mariannatami 2 years ago
Sources in the Russian military has confirmed the failed missile launch to TV2 News in Norway.
The Norwegian military knew about it all along, but wouldn't go public and show how much they really knew about Russian missile testing.
Source:
The Norwegian newspaper VG
Youtube won't allow me to post the link so you'll have to look it up.
Psionpsionpsion 2 years ago 2
Has confirmed...? are you really shure??
MURApk 2 years ago
Of course I'm sure. I wouldn't have stated it otherwise.
Just look it up on VG.
The ending of norwegian sites are NO
Psionpsionpsion 2 years ago 2
RUSSIA HAS NOT CONFIRMED THIS TO BE A FAILED MISSILE TEST........MORONS!!!!!!!!!!
if it even was...they are broadcasting to the whole world they have sucky ass missiles
Whatup5656 2 years ago
Yes they did, moron, and so did the Norwegian government, reporting that they had prior knowledge of the test.
NaienaArygos 2 years ago
moron for a link request? LOL you're so funny. So I think it is useless to respond to you in the other vid. bye
sdirru 2 years ago
I didn't call you a moron for requesting a link, I called Whatup5656 a moron for calling everyone who said Russia had confirmed that it was a missile test a moron. Please read who the response was to before you go negging my comments. He made a disrespectful and uninformed comment, and I was correcting him.
NaienaArygos 2 years ago
in other vid my first source is haarp official website. The link to wikipedia is for Tesla who was described approximately right. For moron ok, it not appear in order.
now: "The Russian government and Norwegian government both released official statements" So? I've noticed you that governments 24h before official statements had denied the launch... you understand me about "wormhole" so it's useless your note.
sdirru 2 years ago
about this "Wormholes have never been proven to exist" Many things have never been proven... God is the first.
sdirru 2 years ago
the last thing... you know Tesla and his studies? I don't think about.
sdirru 2 years ago
exactly this has not even been confirmed but HAS been denied...nasa is now trying to cover it up
watch?v=oY4f1IwQSSY
Whatup5656 2 years ago
This has been confirmed as a failed rocket launch.
Psionpsionpsion 2 years ago
No, it hasn't.
Anarkiados 2 years ago
It's real. It was confirmed it was a failed Russian missile. Saw it on the news also.
It's real. Det ble bekreftet at det var en mislykket russisk rakett. Så det på nyhetene også.
KkF00 2 years ago
What ever it is, its pretty cool
SexyToshi 2 years ago
It's Alien Worm Holes bringing in HOT Alien Babes with Really big Breasts :)
WulfBand 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Anyone thinking this is a missile test is deluded, trust your senses and not misinformation, missiles don't do this. This is clearly HAARP, functioning as I understand it's supposed to. Directed energy hits the ionosphere where it resonates and is amplified, that's exactly what you see here. It's been reported for years that there is a HAARP base in Norway, this is consistent. I'm quite sure this was a demonstration for Obama's benefit as well as perhaps a few others.
corfrancais 2 years ago
watch?v=Zx8i5EfmYU4
Perhaps you are paranoid?
twothlesswonder 2 years ago
You did not state why you think it is not a missile engine gone rogue. Nor have you explained why HAARP is likely. Before calling others "deluded," why not explain with your "expertise?" If it was HAARP, why didn't all the area lights go out?
ivorytabs 2 years ago 2
Look it up on Wikipedia. The video poster gave you a good clue: EISCAT
"At the Ramfjordmoen facility (near Tromsø, Norway) it also operates an ionospheric heater facility, similar to HAARP."
On Google maps, the EISCAT facility is behind two mountains from the bay of Tromsø, which lines up with the high res pictures of the event.
dammeran 2 years ago
You're citing Wikipedia as your primary source? Are you serious?
NaienaArygos 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
SPREAD THE TRUTH OF OBAMA ANTICHRIST TO THE WORLD
The signs: Palin, Hannity, Congress seek birth certificate
Obama's History's worst criminal even than Hitler, falling soon
It's up to law-courts and no-one else whether penalty's death for
1. faking certificate
2. getting power to kill us by nuclear force 1000 times over, which's bad
Heaven showed us the way: IL Lotto 666 election day
Meteorite in Norway greets Obama too
See my latest favorites !
BeastObrahma 2 years ago
It's perfectly reasonable to use Wikipedia in this instance to point out that it exists. It doesn't prove what they actually do there, that wasn't the point. It's location is exactly where the incident occurred in the high res pictures. Quit being a troll.
dammeran 2 years ago
Oh, for the love of god. It was a leaking rocket stage. Physics can explain reality quite nicely if you bother to turn off Art Bell's radio show and do some real research.
jparenti03 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
It's not HAARP or EISCAT, you massive retard. And it's not a failed rocket.
Anarkiados 2 years ago
I saw this thing.
I live in Nordland between Finnmark and Trønderlag.
It isn't photoshop or something.
There is over 10 footages published of this phenomena.
It is real!
StunterGuys 2 years ago 7
project blue beam
diggerdiggerdigger 2 years ago
Quando Photoshop e After Effect mettono in crisi la Stampa...
VegaCommunication 2 years ago
giagia...
sdirru 2 years ago
sei mejo te
padrellaveno 2 years ago
al max ggfaneiscat bannali sdi sono solo dei spammers pezzenti e comincio a pensare debunkerini
padrellaveno 2 years ago
ma tu sei il famoso player di dod detto anche ER WRA ?
n0ird3sir 2 years ago
ggfanhaarp?
wraplaydod 2 years ago