Freud was right about his theory of projection. The right-winger below does not remember his fuehrer saying "your are either with us or against us". If Miss Florida with the neo-con cement blocks she tied to her own legs sinks to the bottom of the Everglades as the seas of fascist elitism rise she can't say I did not try to save her...
America's underclass, the working poor, who fill the military's ranks, are learning how to fight, use weapons, organize a group into a fighting machine.
They will be the cadre that we, the people call upon to fight our real enemies.... the elite class that has usurped what the Founders created.
I cannot believe that all politicians would want war. No one wants war but unfortunately there are people that would like to destroy America, you are upset in the way the US has gone about it. That is a policy difference. In a recent European poll, World Public Opinion 32% of Americans thought we should stay until the job is done, so that would not be 99% of people.
also the message of the vid applies to the peopl who will be the next congressmen and war proffiters, now the last generation of these men were all ww2 or korea or veitnam vets and therefore knew what war was like and theirfore was reluctant do engage in it unless apsolutley nesseary, Regan, Bush Clinton and Bush never served in front line combat, and as a result from 1980 onward the USA bomed almost a country a year on average.
Regan gave freedom to the people of El Savador. Clinton bombed an asprine factory and got involved in a civil war in yugoslovia (Which by the way due to the liberal mentality of vote for a war, and then when it gets tough, withdraw... It has not improved there.)
Same for Somalia. Bush 1 is guilty of not finishing what he started in Iraq back during the first gulf war, had he followed thru and not been disheartened by the sheer carnage and level of kickassery on the american forces part (He was disheartened that we were slaughtering them so easily and had us withdraw... retarded.)
realy? that great funtioning democracy were 2 3rds of the parlument don't sit for fear of their lives, were the top 3rd is in no way related to the rest whilst harbouring terror groups. were the ottom third is an extention of iran and were ther midddle is in chaos,
Whats my agenda oh sir genious of morality? Give me a break. You're the one who wants to abandon the Iraqies. One word sir, we tried that idea with VIETNAM. millions died because we left them to the musings ot the communist NVA and VC.
no your agenda is the maintnece of american economic and cultural domince over the world, to say leaving iraq is abandoning the iraqs is like saying after stabbing somone and taking their wallet but not their phone is abandonig them.
also people died in veitnam because of the economic sanctions the americans imposed.
Its smaller, but its growing faster. Thats GREAT news, why does noone celebrate it? Because their too busy being anti-war, when the best and swiftest way to end this is to get behind them, help them do their jobs so they can move onto the next target.
Yes it will. You clearly are spouting a political agenda if there ever was one. I know people who have served in Iraq, in Kuwait (which is one of the primary staging areas for supplies heading into Iraq.) and i've spoken to veterans going back on their third and fourth tours. Each time it gets better, and they want to help their comrades to the end.
is that american troops wouldn't be dying, the deth count wouldn't go up, and it'd probably go down as naybours would intervene, to be honest im for getting Jordan, syria, turkey, iran kuwait and sudi arabia to do it
Hell we got people who've lost multiple limbs because they believe theres a fighting chance, and there IS a fighting chance. We can't leave because when we do, the Iraqies would be slaughtered by the 100,000 Mixed bag of insurgents that are attacking from multiple directions (multiple boarder insurgencies.
yeah just because someone was clever enough to get a limb blown off dosn't mean their point of veiw is any more right and thats not why they got their limbs blow off, they got them blown off because someone told them to do somthing that got them blow off.
well would they? also your implying that iraqis arn't being slaughtered by the 100,000s all that would happen in iraq if we left ...
The first step to get ridding of terrorism is getting democracy to these nations that are brutal to their civilian populations. We cannot sit back and wait for another attack to come our way. Now Saddam may not have had DIRECT ties to terrorism, but he did fund and proxy arm terrorists groups, which is the exact opposite reason we supported him in the past.
Are You joking? George Bush from the begining has said the War on Terror was going to be a long conflict. He didn't mean 10 months in and out. This is going to be going on 10 years from now, whether you vote democrat or republican, it will be going on in a decade. Iraq is an Ally in the making, Agphganistan is an ally in the making, with the help of israel, pakistan and turkey(Oh wait, good job DEMS, ya pissed em off now!)will help them grow into new democrat nations in the middle east.
Oh and another thing "comrade", we don't live in a communist/socialist nation, we don't use conscription. We no longer have a draft. We won't have one. If it was true that all able bodied men had to fight, we would still have it.
socialism isnt abotua draft, im also not saying there should be a draft, becuase i don't want to have to fight in this war because i don't support it, thats a bullshit strawman argument. all im saying is if you belive that this war is so right and propper, then do it. you don't have to be a front-liner, you could be in lagistics, a desk job, anything.
That says it all! Thanks unameitltd I am so sick of neo con artist college republicans who support the war but dont enlist, they are cowards without the courage of their gop convictions, if u really think the war on terror is real fight now and go to school later
Niave? BULLSHIT! I just dont buy the war mongering neo con artist fraud that American intrest is ever served by sticking our noses in the internal affairs of other countries.
Unameitld. Those same internal affairs that have killed 2 million in the sudan? Those same internal affairs that resulted in well over 300,000 deadin somalia? The same internal affairs that resulted in hundreds of mass graves in Iraq with thousands and thousands of Saddams own people. Yeah he was a real sweetheart wasn't he? Torturing(real torture by the way, like acid, drills and so forth, not the frat humor like Abu Graib.)
what bullshit, jihadist arabs dont have warships, or tanks,
or planes, or icbs, or subs or standing armies. So why the fuck sould I be afraid of them? Because criminal Bush and Cheney say so. Wake up fool, 911 was an inside job. 19 Saudis, with $19 of boxcutters didnt get the 19 billion a year Norad air defense system to stand down. 6600 americans die daily, only morons want a police state because 3000 died from Bushs false flag terrorism. Im alive because of war in Iraq? buy a clue
Uhhh, Iran has a fairly robust military capability... take a look at a map and see if you can figure out why we might consider it a good idea to pursue this. When you feel the instinct to continue to argue in vein, study internal politics in Iran... you have the chance to EARN an opinion here instead of being fed one by idiots.
Iran has a fairly robust military capability ? Are you kidding? Iran fought Iraq for nearly a decade to a stalemate. We crushed Saddams Iraq millitary twice in about a week. The internal politics of Iran are irrevelent, they are NO THREAT to us. Worrying about countries who were nothing before oil and are now next to nothing is silly. Its like worrying a team of 10 yr olds playing hockey could defeat the Detroit red wings. Wake up, we are in the middle east to protect oil & Isreal.
Yeah, and that war ended roughly 20 years ago because they had thousands of high school aged men willing to walk into mine fields to clear them for the infantry among other things. This is but a SCRATCH... by the way, I earned my opinion via a lot of research and the development of relationships, where did yours come from?
I might have a degree and much experience (not quite starting from when I was in diapers, elementary school actually...) with and in the middle east also. To refute your blairingly obvious error, I will point you to the EFP technology currently proliferating in Iraq and western Afghanistan... it seems as though these weapons might be of strategic importance... but hey, what would I know...
fact: only china has a millitary capale to attack and occupy more than 1% of America. Thus we have no reason to care about anybody buy china who can do zero or near zero harm to us. Americans die in the middle east to protect Isreal. I am for letting them die defending themselves. American intrest is to protect America, all else is treason.
So THAT'S what this is all about... Are you aware that Iran has a Sub fleet that regularly menaces US ships in international waters and that Iran has been doing so for years (Again, a token activity)? The real threat that they pose is control of a LOT of oil, which any realistic person knows is the life blood of the world economy. The US has an interest in containing Iran. You invest in oil, you should know...
oil is only the current lifeblood of the world ecnomy because its cheap, @$150 a barel alternatives are cheaper. An oil embargo price spike would be a long term belssing if it got america on clean alternatives. Wyoming wind could power 100% of our power demand if we let it. Iran sub fleet? so what, again: only china has a millitary capale to attack and occupy more than 1% of America. Thus we have no reason to care about anybody buy china who can do zero or near zero harm to us.
So you think that being able to shut a major shipping lane down is an issue that we should not be concerned about because China's not doing it and it's not 1% of America? You should run for office, you'll fit right in...
I could care less if every shipping lane to the US is closed.
It would do the country good not to buy foreign crap for a while.
Elite assholes and globalist always have some lame excuse why america should nose in other countries internal affairs because deep down they love war. When sombody attacks america, I'm for defending our soil, and fighting zero foreign wars for Isreal, Saudia or anybody else.
Naive...bullshit! I am just not a dam fool who buys the neo con artist fraud that our ecnomic intrest requires our millitary meddeling in other countries internal affairs. The worlds strongest ecnomies do little or no military meddeling.
Uhhh... yeah, NO European, Asian, or OTHER North American countries ever meddle in "other countries internal affairs." They NEVER serve their own interests AT ALL in this way. But, I guess I should consider the source. Anyone who uses words like Neocon and Warmonger is clearly a knuckle head. I've grown bored of you... comment away, you can get the "so there" comment.
LOL!!! like it would be shut down for long! we have the best sub hunting technology in the world and they have only a few subs. you have way to much confidence in the iranian navy or too little confidence in ours.
Chicken Hawk Down? That's brilliant! Clinton never served and sent troops in to die in somalia (Black hawk down). We should vote Dimmocrat to stop the war. Oh wait, Dumbocrats want to stay in Iraq as well. Chicken hawks-- Hillary, Obama and Edwards-- none of them served in the Military and are pro 'stay the course'. Must be a bitter pill to swallow eh? :D
The chicken hawks are cowards. There are troops that are being sent back into Iraq for tour after tour after tour, while the chicken hawks are playing golf in America.
I guess we can send young Democrats to fight in Obama's illegal war on Libya.
RonaldeRobinson 7 months ago
join my facebook fan page "Gee, I hate chickenhawks!" where i am trying to preach the same exact thing.
louiscaponecchia 1 year ago
Freud was right about his theory of projection. The right-winger below does not remember his fuehrer saying "your are either with us or against us". If Miss Florida with the neo-con cement blocks she tied to her own legs sinks to the bottom of the Everglades as the seas of fascist elitism rise she can't say I did not try to save her...
wiscokiddd 2 years ago
To be that educated and to be that dumb!
Robot parrots!!!
pretty soon "shut up", will be their first response!
If not already!
who is teaching these kids?
Someone is getting ripped off!
their education can't be cheap!
I hope some of them are embarrassed enough to move forward and use their mind. All is forgiven if you are honest!!!!
We need a stronger USA!!!!!
beckpod1 3 years ago
Young Republicans = chickenhawk
chillaxin201 3 years ago 2
America's underclass, the working poor, who fill the military's ranks, are learning how to fight, use weapons, organize a group into a fighting machine.
They will be the cadre that we, the people call upon to fight our real enemies.... the elite class that has usurped what the Founders created.
obbopp 3 years ago
GOP is populated by pussies and wimps.
loonmaniac 3 years ago 2
Both major political parties are in bed with the military industrial complex and the banking families who own them.
They pretend they care about peace, but dont give a fuck if 99% of the public is against the war.
unameitltd 4 years ago
I cannot believe that all politicians would want war. No one wants war but unfortunately there are people that would like to destroy America, you are upset in the way the US has gone about it. That is a policy difference. In a recent European poll, World Public Opinion 32% of Americans thought we should stay until the job is done, so that would not be 99% of people.
cmv1202 4 years ago
Anti-war left, used in 2006 forgotten 2008.
cmv1202 4 years ago
Forgotten? The number of US citizens against the war has increased over 11 million in the past 3 years. Where the FUCK did you get your info? LOL.
askquestionslater 4 years ago
Some of these chickenhawks will probably be involved in some future presidential election swiftboating some guy's military record.
SkateboardingFemale1 4 years ago
also the message of the vid applies to the peopl who will be the next congressmen and war proffiters, now the last generation of these men were all ww2 or korea or veitnam vets and therefore knew what war was like and theirfore was reluctant do engage in it unless apsolutley nesseary, Regan, Bush Clinton and Bush never served in front line combat, and as a result from 1980 onward the USA bomed almost a country a year on average.
Comradesnowball 4 years ago
Regan gave freedom to the people of El Savador. Clinton bombed an asprine factory and got involved in a civil war in yugoslovia (Which by the way due to the liberal mentality of vote for a war, and then when it gets tough, withdraw... It has not improved there.)
commandox20 4 years ago
Same for Somalia. Bush 1 is guilty of not finishing what he started in Iraq back during the first gulf war, had he followed thru and not been disheartened by the sheer carnage and level of kickassery on the american forces part (He was disheartened that we were slaughtering them so easily and had us withdraw... retarded.)
commandox20 4 years ago
well... isnt that just nice. im so glad people with your mentality live in the world today.
Comradesnowball 4 years ago
Yes its a good counter balance to fruity nuts like you.
commandox20 4 years ago
realy? that great funtioning democracy were 2 3rds of the parlument don't sit for fear of their lives, were the top 3rd is in no way related to the rest whilst harbouring terror groups. were the ottom third is an extention of iran and were ther midddle is in chaos,
great demorcay!!!
Comradesnowball 4 years ago
yeah but more people come back saying "i'm never going back this war is wrong"
Comradesnowball 4 years ago
and you say i have a politcal agenda????? ha
Comradesnowball 4 years ago
Whats my agenda oh sir genious of morality? Give me a break. You're the one who wants to abandon the Iraqies. One word sir, we tried that idea with VIETNAM. millions died because we left them to the musings ot the communist NVA and VC.
commandox20 4 years ago
no your agenda is the maintnece of american economic and cultural domince over the world, to say leaving iraq is abandoning the iraqs is like saying after stabbing somone and taking their wallet but not their phone is abandonig them.
also people died in veitnam because of the economic sanctions the americans imposed.
Comradesnowball 4 years ago
Its smaller, but its growing faster. Thats GREAT news, why does noone celebrate it? Because their too busy being anti-war, when the best and swiftest way to end this is to get behind them, help them do their jobs so they can move onto the next target.
commandox20 4 years ago
yeah see what your doing there is implying that success in iraq will achive anything, if it ever actualy happens. which with us still there it wont
Comradesnowball 4 years ago
Yes it will. You clearly are spouting a political agenda if there ever was one. I know people who have served in Iraq, in Kuwait (which is one of the primary staging areas for supplies heading into Iraq.) and i've spoken to veterans going back on their third and fourth tours. Each time it gets better, and they want to help their comrades to the end.
commandox20 4 years ago
is that american troops wouldn't be dying, the deth count wouldn't go up, and it'd probably go down as naybours would intervene, to be honest im for getting Jordan, syria, turkey, iran kuwait and sudi arabia to do it
Comradesnowball 4 years ago
Hell we got people who've lost multiple limbs because they believe theres a fighting chance, and there IS a fighting chance. We can't leave because when we do, the Iraqies would be slaughtered by the 100,000 Mixed bag of insurgents that are attacking from multiple directions (multiple boarder insurgencies.
commandox20 4 years ago
yeah just because someone was clever enough to get a limb blown off dosn't mean their point of veiw is any more right and thats not why they got their limbs blow off, they got them blown off because someone told them to do somthing that got them blow off.
well would they? also your implying that iraqis arn't being slaughtered by the 100,000s all that would happen in iraq if we left ...
Comradesnowball 4 years ago
The first step to get ridding of terrorism is getting democracy to these nations that are brutal to their civilian populations. We cannot sit back and wait for another attack to come our way. Now Saddam may not have had DIRECT ties to terrorism, but he did fund and proxy arm terrorists groups, which is the exact opposite reason we supported him in the past.
commandox20 4 years ago
Are You joking? George Bush from the begining has said the War on Terror was going to be a long conflict. He didn't mean 10 months in and out. This is going to be going on 10 years from now, whether you vote democrat or republican, it will be going on in a decade. Iraq is an Ally in the making, Agphganistan is an ally in the making, with the help of israel, pakistan and turkey(Oh wait, good job DEMS, ya pissed em off now!)will help them grow into new democrat nations in the middle east.
commandox20 4 years ago
Oh and another thing "comrade", we don't live in a communist/socialist nation, we don't use conscription. We no longer have a draft. We won't have one. If it was true that all able bodied men had to fight, we would still have it.
commandox20 4 years ago
socialism isnt abotua draft, im also not saying there should be a draft, becuase i don't want to have to fight in this war because i don't support it, thats a bullshit strawman argument. all im saying is if you belive that this war is so right and propper, then do it. you don't have to be a front-liner, you could be in lagistics, a desk job, anything.
Comradesnowball 4 years ago
REAL Conservatives support their local militia.
DoktorJeep 4 years ago
That says it all! Thanks unameitltd I am so sick of neo con artist college republicans who support the war but dont enlist, they are cowards without the courage of their gop convictions, if u really think the war on terror is real fight now and go to school later
xmm2006mm2006x 4 years ago
xmm2006mm2006x: You missed the mark ENTIRELY... but I'll let it go because you don't really know anything about me.
unameitltd: You seem strikingly naive for someone who claims the economic interests you do... how is that?
VirgilioLeon 4 years ago
Niave? BULLSHIT! I just dont buy the war mongering neo con artist fraud that American intrest is ever served by sticking our noses in the internal affairs of other countries.
unameitltd 4 years ago
Unameitld. Those same internal affairs that have killed 2 million in the sudan? Those same internal affairs that resulted in well over 300,000 deadin somalia? The same internal affairs that resulted in hundreds of mass graves in Iraq with thousands and thousands of Saddams own people. Yeah he was a real sweetheart wasn't he? Torturing(real torture by the way, like acid, drills and so forth, not the frat humor like Abu Graib.)
commandox20 4 years ago
look no one likes war but if bush didnt go into iraq you wouldnt be alive to make this video
if you cant guess terrorists would`ve bombed the whole country
nycbusfan 4 years ago
what bullshit, jihadist arabs dont have warships, or tanks,
or planes, or icbs, or subs or standing armies. So why the fuck sould I be afraid of them? Because criminal Bush and Cheney say so. Wake up fool, 911 was an inside job. 19 Saudis, with $19 of boxcutters didnt get the 19 billion a year Norad air defense system to stand down. 6600 americans die daily, only morons want a police state because 3000 died from Bushs false flag terrorism. Im alive because of war in Iraq? buy a clue
unameitltd 4 years ago
Uhhh, Iran has a fairly robust military capability... take a look at a map and see if you can figure out why we might consider it a good idea to pursue this. When you feel the instinct to continue to argue in vein, study internal politics in Iran... you have the chance to EARN an opinion here instead of being fed one by idiots.
VirgilioLeon 4 years ago
Iran has a fairly robust military capability ? Are you kidding? Iran fought Iraq for nearly a decade to a stalemate. We crushed Saddams Iraq millitary twice in about a week. The internal politics of Iran are irrevelent, they are NO THREAT to us. Worrying about countries who were nothing before oil and are now next to nothing is silly. Its like worrying a team of 10 yr olds playing hockey could defeat the Detroit red wings. Wake up, we are in the middle east to protect oil & Isreal.
unameitltd 4 years ago
Yeah, and that war ended roughly 20 years ago because they had thousands of high school aged men willing to walk into mine fields to clear them for the infantry among other things. This is but a SCRATCH... by the way, I earned my opinion via a lot of research and the development of relationships, where did yours come from?
VirgilioLeon 4 years ago
where did yours come from: watching news for 8 hours a day since you were in diapers kid, a degree in history, and several years in the middle east.
unameitltd 4 years ago
I might have a degree and much experience (not quite starting from when I was in diapers, elementary school actually...) with and in the middle east also. To refute your blairingly obvious error, I will point you to the EFP technology currently proliferating in Iraq and western Afghanistan... it seems as though these weapons might be of strategic importance... but hey, what would I know...
VirgilioLeon 4 years ago
fact: only china has a millitary capale to attack and occupy more than 1% of America. Thus we have no reason to care about anybody buy china who can do zero or near zero harm to us. Americans die in the middle east to protect Isreal. I am for letting them die defending themselves. American intrest is to protect America, all else is treason.
unameitltd 4 years ago
So THAT'S what this is all about... Are you aware that Iran has a Sub fleet that regularly menaces US ships in international waters and that Iran has been doing so for years (Again, a token activity)? The real threat that they pose is control of a LOT of oil, which any realistic person knows is the life blood of the world economy. The US has an interest in containing Iran. You invest in oil, you should know...
VirgilioLeon 4 years ago
oil is only the current lifeblood of the world ecnomy because its cheap, @$150 a barel alternatives are cheaper. An oil embargo price spike would be a long term belssing if it got america on clean alternatives. Wyoming wind could power 100% of our power demand if we let it. Iran sub fleet? so what, again: only china has a millitary capale to attack and occupy more than 1% of America. Thus we have no reason to care about anybody buy china who can do zero or near zero harm to us.
unameitltd 4 years ago
So you think that being able to shut a major shipping lane down is an issue that we should not be concerned about because China's not doing it and it's not 1% of America? You should run for office, you'll fit right in...
VirgilioLeon 4 years ago
I could care less if every shipping lane to the US is closed.
It would do the country good not to buy foreign crap for a while.
Elite assholes and globalist always have some lame excuse why america should nose in other countries internal affairs because deep down they love war. When sombody attacks america, I'm for defending our soil, and fighting zero foreign wars for Isreal, Saudia or anybody else.
unameitltd 4 years ago
unameitltd: You seem strikingly naive for someone who claims the economic interests you do... how is that?
VirgilioLeon 4 years ago
Naive...bullshit! I am just not a dam fool who buys the neo con artist fraud that our ecnomic intrest requires our millitary meddeling in other countries internal affairs. The worlds strongest ecnomies do little or no military meddeling.
unameitltd 4 years ago
Uhhh... yeah, NO European, Asian, or OTHER North American countries ever meddle in "other countries internal affairs." They NEVER serve their own interests AT ALL in this way. But, I guess I should consider the source. Anyone who uses words like Neocon and Warmonger is clearly a knuckle head. I've grown bored of you... comment away, you can get the "so there" comment.
VirgilioLeon 4 years ago
LOL!!! like it would be shut down for long! we have the best sub hunting technology in the world and they have only a few subs. you have way to much confidence in the iranian navy or too little confidence in ours.
menotyou66 4 years ago
Chicken Hawk Down? That's brilliant! Clinton never served and sent troops in to die in somalia (Black hawk down). We should vote Dimmocrat to stop the war. Oh wait, Dumbocrats want to stay in Iraq as well. Chicken hawks-- Hillary, Obama and Edwards-- none of them served in the Military and are pro 'stay the course'. Must be a bitter pill to swallow eh? :D
darthscumbagus 4 years ago
Oops, time to take remedial American history. they were sent in by G.H.W.Bush.
theyak47 4 years ago
if one of them is elected i will say the same about them. not bitter, it's quite sweet. dems are just as idiotic as republicans.
menotyou66 4 years ago
Oh yeah, Ron Paul 2008.
hillerm 4 years ago
The chicken hawks are cowards. There are troops that are being sent back into Iraq for tour after tour after tour, while the chicken hawks are playing golf in America.
hillerm 4 years ago
Yes... lets kill them because they think differently than us!
Phranquely 4 years ago
no lets just send the gop cowards to fight the war they seem to love so much.
unameitltd 4 years ago
Quick, someone nominate unameitld for a schadenfreude award.
zzquanto 4 years ago
I think the college Republicans would win the shadenfreude award by cheering on an unjust war and the deaths of our great millitary men and women.
Danicokel 4 years ago
Vote for anti-war Republican RON PAUL!
libertarian4322 4 years ago
Send in the War pimping cowards of the tough talking GOP. 42 and younger.
rhinomn 4 years ago