Only a REAL FOOL would claim there is no God! Man creates awesome skyscrapers, fake hearts, tunnels, vehicles etc.. If we are very imperfect then what more can God create THE UNIVERSE! You must accept Jesus Christ as your Savior to receive eternal rest in heaven! Simple! John 3:16 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him! Repent & accept Jesus Christ! Jesus Christ or HELL?!? Visit cbn. com
@V3xrog You mean the kind of lazy voice he speaks with and the somewhat tired demeanour? It has nothing to do with being high. He's just being himself, I know many like that. It's much better than to speak like a politician with their fake smiles and constructed voices isn't it?
what i don't understands about hitches commandments is do not condemn for inborn nature,, some one could say they're inborn nature is one of pedophiliac or necrophiliac lust . certain things aren't acceptable
@JusBlazeDR "Lust" is different from action. And He does mention not harming children. But I think these commandments, like the pirate code, are more or less guidelines.
@JusBlazeDR That is true, however I think its only right (and possible) to condemn them if they act upon it. I think he used this to counter "Thou shalt not covet..." because its just thought. Also I'd argue that being a necrophiliac or pedophile isn't inborn but a defect occurring from some sort of mental trauma.
Today I wanted to browse some stuff on ikea.de website and accidentally typed idea.de ... On that website (which turned out to be a christian news portal), I saw a thumbnail saying "Aggressive Atheist: Christopher Hitchens died"...
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Why anyone would look to this guy as their moral guidepost is absurd! Does this overweight, obviously miserably unhealthy, and unhappy man(he has no joy, no smile and no energy)He is like a walking zombie. Why would ANYONE want to be more like this man?????
@erinman1 I think he's made it very clear in alot of interviews that he wouldn't change anything about his life, especially in light of recent events (he has cancer). I think the unhappiness and miserableness you're seeing is actually just part of his comedic delivery. Also, his mood and health do not reflect the truth of what he's talking about, that is an ad hominem fallacy.
@erinman1 I love his wit, his humor and I love him and always will. You must be very stupid not to see that he is a very happy and very successful man in every way. He's changed my life and millions of others in ways you probbaly can't imagine. And that is your problem.
I look up to him because of his great mind, his great wit, and his courage to speak his mind without caring what anyone thinks.
What does the fact that he's overweight have to do with looking up to him?
Why does his health have anything to do with it? The only way I could see anyone thinking that heath should have anything to do with their opinion of someone is if they're following Hitlers views. Why else would you only look up to someone that isn't perfectly healthy?
@erinman1 *Equally as inflammatory counter-troll* The absurd reasons why people would look to Hitch as a moral guidepost: he advocates against genocide, genital mutilation, animal cruelty, delusions, slavery, child abuse, racism, pseudoscience, misogyny, hypocrites, homophobia, antisemitism, and the source of all failed descriptive ethics models: religion. You statement was vulgar, tactless, and contemptible.
@erinman1 As opposed to what? Trying to be like the Jesus zombie? Being like a sky daddy that would have you suffer an eternity of hell just for lacking faith in him? What if every parent acted like your God? No human would be alive today.
How do I contact Mr Hitchens? I know he is in the last hour of his but I have some smouldering confirmations I wish him to hear. I have watched him over many years and despite disagreeing with his stance on the Iraq war was I want him to know that he above all things taught me the meaning of solidarity.
@szumwalt No, he didn't. What Carlin done was condensed the original ten commandments into a smaller number of commandments, pointing out that the same behaviours could have been discouraged or encouraged in fewer commandments. What Hitchens does here is writes his own set of commandments that he believes are superior to those in The Bible.They are two completely different things.
Love Hitchens and this video. But (hey, nobody's perfect) after criticizing the tenth commandment for condemning thought, he has in the second commandment of his own version, "Do not ever even think of ..."
@ssppeellll Well the difference is that if you don't follow the original 10 commandments you go to hell, but if you follow his nothing happens. He's just adding more emphasis on it.
@TheKlink No, he didn't. What Carlin done was condensed the original ten commandments into a smaller number of commandments, pointing out that the same behaviours could have been discouraged or encouraged in fewer commandments. What Hitchens does here is writes his own set of commandments that he believes are superior to those in The Bible.They are two completely different things.
His last commandment kinda reminds me of that quote by Buddha, "Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense."
ok, funniest thing - if you type into the search bar "why religion is" the suggestions are, in order ; "fake" "bullshit" "bad" "wrong" "stupid" "dangerous" "evil" "false" "a mental disease" and finally, "good".
@qwerty2460123 because people already know why religion is good, they are searching for what they can't justify themselves, why it is bad. there you go.
@qwerty2460123 May I update that very glorious statement of yours, please, good Sir or Lady? The one and only suggestion, that comes up, is "why religion is... - bad". The top 5 links are: "10 reasons you should never have a religion", "Bad Religion", "religion gone bad", "American Atheists" and simply "Bad Religion". Maybe there is, after all, hope for humankind...
@tbolland1991 According to scripture, "God" created the "Heavens" and the Earth on the first day, the first day being Sunday. On the last day (Saturday), he rested. On Jewish calenders and even the present Julian calender, the first day of the week is Sunday. Present day Seventh Day Adventist still practice this. So basically, according to the Bible, the Sabbath is on a Saturday.
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You are off Hitch. Art an Idolatry are way different. Kneeling before a painting and worshipping is prohibited. Jesus healed people on the Sabbath, he said " What man is there among you who has one sheep, and if it falls into a pit on a Sabbath will not lay hold of it and lift it out? Of how much more value is a man than a sheep? Therefore it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath. You generalize everything Hitch to suit your speeches you get paid for...Just like a politician don't believe him!!
3. "Despise those who use violence in sexual relations"
5. "Do not condemn people for their inborn nature"
A bit contradictory. Violence by men in relationships is used as an an evolutionary adaptation used to prevent their partners from straying and maintaining fidelity.
Aggression is caused in part by Testosterone levels which is mainly due to genetics.
I don't support sexual violence but it can be an "inborn nature".
@MichaelH3948 - His definition of "inborn nature" does not include perversions, violence or illegal activity of any sort. He was specifically talking about sexual preference between consenting adults.
Brilliant thinking by Hitchens. For more like this try Gary Greenberg, '101 myths of the Bible' and authors Richard Carrier, Ken Humphreys, John W. Loftus, Dan Barker, Robert M. Price, Valerie Tarico, C. Dennis Mckinsey, Joseph Wheless, Thomas Paine, Mark Twain, Valerie Tarico, Dan Barker, Victor J. Stenger, Hector Avalos, Earl Doherty, Jason Long, Sam Harris, Israel Finkelstein, Daniel Denett, Richard Dawkins, Read the history of protestantism and higher criticism of the Bible
His capricious and vengeful idea of idea of god that he draws from the tablets is actually broadly consistent with the idea I got from the Imam and Rabbii in my comparative religious studies. In the case of the jew explicitly so "We believe in a vengeful god".
It's always interesting to see Chris Hitchen's take on things. I can't say I agree, though - I'll take objective morality over the subjective any day (and ironically this somewhat hesitant venture attempts to make it objective in a way).
I like how Hitchens * actually* knows a lot about religion(s) in general. The problem is that he doesn't *understand* them - or to be more specific, Judeo-Christianity.
@TheHardout2005 Hitch doesn't understand Judeo-Christianity? Well, I'm no expert, but my university professors actually reject that entire term, because if one knows a minimal amount of the two faiths, combining the terms is almost oxymoronic.
Second, Hitchens doesn't argue for subjective morality, but I wonder how much you know about ethics, because ethics is not a dichotomy between what you call objective and subjective. It's a lot more scrupulous than that.
@AR333 I see what you mean - but I'm referring to the use of the OT in Christianity.
I think ethics is separate from, yet related to morality, is it not? 'Cus morality can very much be objective or subjective. And IF that's the case then you seem to have created a straw man.
@TheHardout2005 Referring to the OT in Christianity is not the same as using the term Judeo-Christian. What I said was that the term "Judeo-Christian" is more of a pop-term than anything, because if you actually spend time studying the two religions, the mingling of the terms is meaningless.
I did not straw-man, I'm saying 1) Hitch does not advocate "subjective morality" and 2) Your dichotomy shows a shallow understanding of moral theory, cause moral theory is not just about sub/objective
@AR333 Yes there are differences, but Judaism being the root of Abrahamic religion - as well as one itself - should get a mention somehow. Particularly when the book of Moses, in which we find the 10 commandments, comes from Judaism. But right now I'm not fussed with terminology.
I'm unsure of what you mean - I think you're arguing from a subjective point of view. If anything, all moral viewpoints are either subjective or objective, depending on belief, so I don't think the dichotomy is false.
@TheHardout2005 "are differences, but Judaism being the root of Abrahamic religion - as well as one itself - should get a mention somehow."
There are differences? K, if my point hasn't gone through, I won't try again. The people who seriously study religion are hesitant to use that term. It's a pop term, not a meaningful one to those who go in-depth.
And all I said about morality is that your terms are original to you. If by subjective you meant relative, Hitchens does not advocate that.
@AR333 No I don't mean relative. I mean they come from without an objective source. If you've seen his debate with William Lane Craig you will see them debating objective morality. Good debate, too. Both very witty guys.
But that's what I was trying to get at - in Christian apologetics, we speak of objective morality as it comes from an objective source - namely God. Thus one can know that something is inherently good/evil without opinion coming into it. Hitchens uses this but makes his own up
My understanding of Lev is that its a book of Jewish law which the pharises would pride themselves on keeping.
Also I guess you could call him evil - but only on a subjective level (while the argument could be made that, on an objective level, if Lev is true and God is omnibenevolent, then everything in Lev is actually the opposite of evil, but objectively good! I won't make that argument, however haha).
@TheHardout2005 And, as you know, many of the rest of us see your objective source as a delusion. And I am not sure Hitchens would have pretense to objectivity here. I don't think he thinks any sort pure objectivity is possible.
@sunkencheeks Yes, I'm sure. Of course, I've always seen the whole 'delusion' thing as a naked assertion that is patently false, but enough on that.
No I don't think he does either, but it does appear to be the way he's presenting it. Perhaps he doesn't believe in moral objectivity - I'm not sure as he seemed to evade this in his debate against William Lane Craig - but apparently Sam Harris does, which I found interesting.
Remember religion is man's first attempt at science, health, physics, philosophy &morality. Because there was no real way of explaining nature, everything was ascribed to deities-that's why in order 2 identify with nature, people began 2 worship everything. They felt their finiteness within the universe & their susceptibility to suffering meant that their interactions with nature was one with God, especially since humans couldn't communicate with or control nature & animals through any language.
You mean your morality?? It says a lot about you if you need a fuckin' 2000 year old book to tell you not to steal, lie, kill og cheat. I can think by myself not to do those things.
If i may interject. Though humans may be animals, we have the highest capacity for thought of any known organism on this planet. I know not of any other species that boasts minds similar to Hawking or Hitchens himself. All of the natural world is beutiful, spectacular, and awsome to behold. But then, so are we.
Great Logic: how can god be jealous cruel and insecure (these all are human traits), its certain that a bunch of jealous cruel and insecure people made god.
Thou shalt not kill - (Invisible/lost writing: Anyone who believes in the might of our lord). Theres the justification for Moses ordering people killed.
Adultery should have legal ramifications, but not the death penalty! Adultery could easily fall under breach of contract, since marriage is essentially a contract between two individuals and there is an explicit agreement for no party to cheat.
@suggesttwo well, that can be true. However, in families where the parents hate each other so much and fight and treat each other like crap, the kids are relieved when they split, for it makes both parents happier, and all a kid wants is not to see her mother and father miserable. Because that tells her-this is the future...this is what you can expect...and that is how it's supposed to be. Kids only know what they are shown.
@suggesttwo most divorces happen because one of the 2 "hardens" their heart and starts being stubborn. the divorce rate on first marriages is 50% of first marriages, 75% on second and third marriages. in other word one one has hardened their heart it is easier to scrap the marriage once it has been done b4 instead of doing the work and working it out. The one who leaves usually leaves the children with thier spouce. selfishness.
@isisdron If 2 people or 1 person is unwilling(read to selfish or too full of pride to get councel) to change and learn to treat each other with love and respect what makes you think they will take the time to learn this the second or third time around?
@suggesttwo well, there is no guarantee they will ever change. Some do- say if they married young and really werent mature enough to handle commitment at the time-they still may realize their own mistakes down the line. This is not certain though, nothing is. I wish there was a magic wand that could make all people make better choices all the time. The world would certainly be a better place for it. Broken hearts are a sad thing. I hope you have a good day.
@isisdron God did allow divorce because men hardened thier hearts. That is for things which were detestable in his sight or intolerable. cheating, beating(Mal2:10-16), murderer, thieves, violent people, liers, toublemakers(rumour spreaders, faulse witness:causes fights, injustice),
Fucking awesome, he makes my mondays so much better
hbmendoza 3 days ago
"It's usually wise when promulgating eternal laws to be clear about what you mean."
Zimnyification 3 days ago 4
finnly we have the true 10 commandments
kingpharaohtsar 4 days ago
Why the fuck was there a Morman add before this video...
wsf18132 6 days ago
that blue pencil wasn't a blue pencil...
purplezart 1 week ago
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tigersforchrist 1 week ago
#11 Thou shalt not smoke weed :d
SuatA91 1 week ago
Amen.
eiriklil 2 weeks ago
why does he seem like he's high?
V3xrog 2 weeks ago
@V3xrog You mean the kind of lazy voice he speaks with and the somewhat tired demeanour? It has nothing to do with being high. He's just being himself, I know many like that. It's much better than to speak like a politician with their fake smiles and constructed voices isn't it?
piratsindre17 1 week ago
Get em Hitchens
slye1991 2 weeks ago
Thou shalt not steal: in ancient sparta, it was more like Thou shalt not get caught stealing" see, we do know of one.
TheScarletcrusader 1 month ago
what i don't understands about hitches commandments is do not condemn for inborn nature,, some one could say they're inborn nature is one of pedophiliac or necrophiliac lust . certain things aren't acceptable
JusBlazeDR 1 month ago
@JusBlazeDR "Lust" is different from action. And He does mention not harming children. But I think these commandments, like the pirate code, are more or less guidelines.
PUMKINMANforever 1 month ago
@JusBlazeDR That is true, however I think its only right (and possible) to condemn them if they act upon it. I think he used this to counter "Thou shalt not covet..." because its just thought. Also I'd argue that being a necrophiliac or pedophile isn't inborn but a defect occurring from some sort of mental trauma.
MyFishIsTwonk 1 month ago
Why doesn't the thumbnail picture Hitch?
In fact, who the hell is that guy in the thumbnail?
HandiCripple666 1 month ago
@HandiCripple666 Recep Tayyip Erdogan, the Prime Minister of Turkey.
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zacherycote49 1 month ago
THOU SHALT
TURN OFF THY
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MyBottletree 1 month ago 38
What the hell is that he's hiding behind his back at 3:47?
grumpyboomer 1 month ago
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His glasses and a water bottle.
danmalone89 1 month ago 3
@danmalone89 You mean johnny, black.
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a water bottle
scbluesman13 1 month ago
Fucking brilliant!
Ride on GREAT WARRIOR, ride on...
AustraliaHouses 2 months ago
"No.8" at 7:28 YAY! Ain't gonna happen though. And the world is worse place for it.
youtubister 2 months ago
maybe hitch could win dinner with dawkins!!!!! ... oh.
thefakepolice 2 months ago
george carlin did a much better version of this
JagjeetMann 2 months ago
This is almost as good as George Carlin's reworking.
bmh4d0k3n 2 months ago
@bmh4d0k3n Your comment killed Chris Hitchens.
Forehead2Brick 2 months ago
sparta encouraged stealing
RPGaddictC 2 months ago
"Don't swallow your moral code in tablet form." - Christopher Hitchens
#10Commandments
JesusFcking 2 months ago 5
Goodbye Hitch. You will be missed.
drogoscg1 2 months ago 3
Hitch was brilliant and will be missed.
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Today I wanted to browse some stuff on ikea.de website and accidentally typed idea.de ... On that website (which turned out to be a christian news portal), I saw a thumbnail saying "Aggressive Atheist: Christopher Hitchens died"...
Isn't that some sort of ironic accident???
sooperfukker 2 months ago
RIP Hitch.
starkweather444 2 months ago 57
@starkweather444 after this video I doubt it.
razaa09 1 month ago
You see Christian having conversation with evil if this guy go to il his own country he is islamaphobia
AHMEDBULAXUBEY 2 months ago
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Why anyone would look to this guy as their moral guidepost is absurd! Does this overweight, obviously miserably unhealthy, and unhappy man(he has no joy, no smile and no energy)He is like a walking zombie. Why would ANYONE want to be more like this man?????
erinman1 2 months ago
@erinman1 I think he's made it very clear in alot of interviews that he wouldn't change anything about his life, especially in light of recent events (he has cancer). I think the unhappiness and miserableness you're seeing is actually just part of his comedic delivery. Also, his mood and health do not reflect the truth of what he's talking about, that is an ad hominem fallacy.
JoeT3i 2 months ago 5
@erinman1 I love his wit, his humor and I love him and always will. You must be very stupid not to see that he is a very happy and very successful man in every way. He's changed my life and millions of others in ways you probbaly can't imagine. And that is your problem.
Icefrontier76 2 months ago
@erinman1
I look up to him because of his great mind, his great wit, and his courage to speak his mind without caring what anyone thinks.
What does the fact that he's overweight have to do with looking up to him?
Why does his health have anything to do with it? The only way I could see anyone thinking that heath should have anything to do with their opinion of someone is if they're following Hitlers views. Why else would you only look up to someone that isn't perfectly healthy?
CarlSagan0101 2 months ago
@erinman1 Well, you got humiliated. lol.
itchygonads 2 months ago
@erinman1 *Equally as inflammatory counter-troll* The absurd reasons why people would look to Hitch as a moral guidepost: he advocates against genocide, genital mutilation, animal cruelty, delusions, slavery, child abuse, racism, pseudoscience, misogyny, hypocrites, homophobia, antisemitism, and the source of all failed descriptive ethics models: religion. You statement was vulgar, tactless, and contemptible.
wallstreetatheist 2 months ago
@erinman1
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"Why anyone would look to this guy as their moral guidepost is absurd!
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No one is. Way to go to miss the point.
TheSkepticalIdealist 1 month ago 3
@erinman1 As opposed to what? Trying to be like the Jesus zombie? Being like a sky daddy that would have you suffer an eternity of hell just for lacking faith in him? What if every parent acted like your God? No human would be alive today.
iz2sicc 1 month ago
Long live Hitch.
panicBoydotcom 3 months ago 2
@TheKlink, @SgtPepperEverton
TheBoredProle 3 months ago
If you covet your neigbours stuff ( 10) too much , then the adultery . murder, theft and perjury (6,7.8,9) will follow.
Of course it is not entirely possible to not desire your neigbours stuff, but it a goal to work towards.
samslick90 3 months ago
@samslick90 Well coveting also leads to imitation.
Lulzalutioners 1 week ago
superb...love the Hitchens 10 commandments.
amuuse1 3 months ago
Iraq was is the other thing he is wrong on.
Can someone explain 5:10?
kaakoo 3 months ago
@kaakoo to covet something means that you want it. You can't even THINK of having your neighbor's possessions.
Iukini 3 months ago
How do I contact Mr Hitchens? I know he is in the last hour of his but I have some smouldering confirmations I wish him to hear. I have watched him over many years and despite disagreeing with his stance on the Iraq war was I want him to know that he above all things taught me the meaning of solidarity.
TheMotherEagle 3 months ago
Carlin did it better, earlier.
szumwalt 3 months ago
@szumwalt No, he didn't. What Carlin done was condensed the original ten commandments into a smaller number of commandments, pointing out that the same behaviours could have been discouraged or encouraged in fewer commandments. What Hitchens does here is writes his own set of commandments that he believes are superior to those in The Bible.They are two completely different things.
SgtPepperEverton 3 months ago
Love Hitchens and this video. But (hey, nobody's perfect) after criticizing the tenth commandment for condemning thought, he has in the second commandment of his own version, "Do not ever even think of ..."
Still, ... Right on, Christopher!
ssppeellll 3 months ago
@ssppeellll Well the difference is that if you don't follow the original 10 commandments you go to hell, but if you follow his nothing happens. He's just adding more emphasis on it.
Lulzalutioners 1 week ago
You know what's so ridiculous about the 10-commandments?
The fact that you had to have them written down.
Londron 3 months ago
Hitchens may be a great man, but Carlin said it better. & made it shorter.
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@TheKlink No, he didn't. What Carlin done was condensed the original ten commandments into a smaller number of commandments, pointing out that the same behaviours could have been discouraged or encouraged in fewer commandments. What Hitchens does here is writes his own set of commandments that he believes are superior to those in The Bible.They are two completely different things.
SgtPepperEverton 3 months ago 2
55 people are hiding and weeping
htiberian 4 months ago 3
Love this guy. Just wish his way of thinking could be somehow adopted by the powers that be - even if just by osmosis.
Get well soon hitch.
Lijoue 4 months ago
last commandment has another point. Covet the wife implies the wife is a property of man
scienceisknolwedge 5 months ago
@scienceisknolwedge Bible was clearly male made.
uralldiseasedXD 4 months ago
Amazing Grace!
eutahbear1952 5 months ago
His last commandment kinda reminds me of that quote by Buddha, "Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense."
TrEvADiZasTA 5 months ago
ok, funniest thing - if you type into the search bar "why religion is" the suggestions are, in order ; "fake" "bullshit" "bad" "wrong" "stupid" "dangerous" "evil" "false" "a mental disease" and finally, "good".
qwerty2460123 5 months ago 82
@qwerty2460123 in mine, the word "good" doesn't even show up until i type in the letter "g" lol
The26Dude 5 months ago
@qwerty2460123 because people already know why religion is good, they are searching for what they can't justify themselves, why it is bad. there you go.
iruruu 2 months ago
@qwerty2460123 May I update that very glorious statement of yours, please, good Sir or Lady? The one and only suggestion, that comes up, is "why religion is... - bad". The top 5 links are: "10 reasons you should never have a religion", "Bad Religion", "religion gone bad", "American Atheists" and simply "Bad Religion". Maybe there is, after all, hope for humankind...
kroschfoenigin 2 months ago in playlist Favorite videos
@qwerty2460123 different now but still more negative than positive
MrFuckhed 2 weeks ago
@qwerty2460123 It's beautiful, isn't it?
bigj651 1 week ago
I didn't quite follow the part he says about the Sabbath being on a Saturday. Would anyone kind enough care to explain?
tbolland1991 5 months ago
@tbolland1991 According to scripture, "God" created the "Heavens" and the Earth on the first day, the first day being Sunday. On the last day (Saturday), he rested. On Jewish calenders and even the present Julian calender, the first day of the week is Sunday. Present day Seventh Day Adventist still practice this. So basically, according to the Bible, the Sabbath is on a Saturday.
666reasons2killU 5 months ago
@666reasons2killU Brilliant. Nice one.
tbolland1991 5 months ago
He's the best preacher I ever had lol
ThorFan4Life 6 months ago
Simply brilliant.
Brandonsaurusrexadon 6 months ago
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You are off Hitch. Art an Idolatry are way different. Kneeling before a painting and worshipping is prohibited. Jesus healed people on the Sabbath, he said " What man is there among you who has one sheep, and if it falls into a pit on a Sabbath will not lay hold of it and lift it out? Of how much more value is a man than a sheep? Therefore it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath. You generalize everything Hitch to suit your speeches you get paid for...Just like a politician don't believe him!!
giovanone 6 months ago
@giovanone Fuck. Off.
vjohn82 5 months ago
@vjohn82 LOL...now I'm convinced
giovanone 5 months ago
@giovanone Good. Now fuck off.
vjohn82 5 months ago
@vjohn82 HAHAHAHAHA....Venereal John
giovanone 5 months ago
@giovanone Cleaver that one, giovagina
vjohn82 5 months ago
@vjohn82 LMAAAOOO..good one.
giovanone 5 months ago
@giovanone I thank you.
vjohn82 5 months ago
3. "Despise those who use violence in sexual relations"
5. "Do not condemn people for their inborn nature"
A bit contradictory. Violence by men in relationships is used as an an evolutionary adaptation used to prevent their partners from straying and maintaining fidelity.
Aggression is caused in part by Testosterone levels which is mainly due to genetics.
I don't support sexual violence but it can be an "inborn nature".
MichaelH3948 6 months ago
@MichaelH3948 - His definition of "inborn nature" does not include perversions, violence or illegal activity of any sort. He was specifically talking about sexual preference between consenting adults.
socalcraigster 6 months ago
@MichaelH3948
Actually, any violence is a result of something "inborn".
twooffour 5 months ago
i love you hitch!
soulcough76 6 months ago
Brilliant thinking by Hitchens. For more like this try Gary Greenberg, '101 myths of the Bible' and authors Richard Carrier, Ken Humphreys, John W. Loftus, Dan Barker, Robert M. Price, Valerie Tarico, C. Dennis Mckinsey, Joseph Wheless, Thomas Paine, Mark Twain, Valerie Tarico, Dan Barker, Victor J. Stenger, Hector Avalos, Earl Doherty, Jason Long, Sam Harris, Israel Finkelstein, Daniel Denett, Richard Dawkins, Read the history of protestantism and higher criticism of the Bible
zytigon 6 months ago
Thank you for posting this, VanityFairMagazine.
writersblock26 6 months ago 2
There was more wisdom and common sense here than anywhere in the bible.
fistfulofknowledge 6 months ago
Brilliant. Much more so than his support to the "War on Terror" (c).
ChienJaune01 7 months ago
Erudite brilliance!! Hitch Rocks!
jaredlacorte1 7 months ago
guarantee by God
that makes my day
Shklyarr 7 months ago
His capricious and vengeful idea of idea of god that he draws from the tablets is actually broadly consistent with the idea I got from the Imam and Rabbii in my comparative religious studies. In the case of the jew explicitly so "We believe in a vengeful god".
fogwat 7 months ago
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who are these people??!! "
mihaineom 7 months ago
Steal This Book: great title lol
nthomas87 7 months ago
1:52 "It's usually wise when promulgating eternal laws to be clear about what you mean." Christopher Hitchens - the King of Deadpan.
redlightmax 7 months ago 70
@redlightmax I just read this just now .... and it made me laugh my ass off .... and then I cried! ;)
He truly was the most ruthless deadpan geniuses ever! .... damn! I miss him!
raigandalf 2 months ago
hitch my ass
gogolplex74 7 months ago 2
Hitchens #2 = thought crime! I call foul! ;)
oshory 7 months ago 3
@oshory I was just thinking that!
AlanKey86 7 months ago
hmm he also punishes thought...
unfad1ng 8 months ago
I love Hitchens but he looks drunk in even this.
MrNellie2200 8 months ago
Hitchens is a pure genius!!!!
Bhup1978 8 months ago
@libetta you are either very confused or very, very ignorant. Or just a cunt
EuanMan13 8 months ago
I heard you are dying asshole
silvana6427 8 months ago
@silvana6427 I see that you are the type that has meaningful contributions to make in public forums.
AR333 8 months ago
You rock, Sir! Be well! And: YES! Long live Christopher Hitchens!
kroschfoenigin 8 months ago
It's always interesting to see Chris Hitchen's take on things. I can't say I agree, though - I'll take objective morality over the subjective any day (and ironically this somewhat hesitant venture attempts to make it objective in a way).
I like how Hitchens * actually* knows a lot about religion(s) in general. The problem is that he doesn't *understand* them - or to be more specific, Judeo-Christianity.
TheHardout2005 8 months ago
@TheHardout2005 Hitch doesn't understand Judeo-Christianity? Well, I'm no expert, but my university professors actually reject that entire term, because if one knows a minimal amount of the two faiths, combining the terms is almost oxymoronic.
Second, Hitchens doesn't argue for subjective morality, but I wonder how much you know about ethics, because ethics is not a dichotomy between what you call objective and subjective. It's a lot more scrupulous than that.
AR333 8 months ago
@AR333 I see what you mean - but I'm referring to the use of the OT in Christianity.
I think ethics is separate from, yet related to morality, is it not? 'Cus morality can very much be objective or subjective. And IF that's the case then you seem to have created a straw man.
TheHardout2005 8 months ago
@TheHardout2005 Referring to the OT in Christianity is not the same as using the term Judeo-Christian. What I said was that the term "Judeo-Christian" is more of a pop-term than anything, because if you actually spend time studying the two religions, the mingling of the terms is meaningless.
I did not straw-man, I'm saying 1) Hitch does not advocate "subjective morality" and 2) Your dichotomy shows a shallow understanding of moral theory, cause moral theory is not just about sub/objective
AR333 8 months ago
@AR333 Yes there are differences, but Judaism being the root of Abrahamic religion - as well as one itself - should get a mention somehow. Particularly when the book of Moses, in which we find the 10 commandments, comes from Judaism. But right now I'm not fussed with terminology.
I'm unsure of what you mean - I think you're arguing from a subjective point of view. If anything, all moral viewpoints are either subjective or objective, depending on belief, so I don't think the dichotomy is false.
TheHardout2005 8 months ago
@TheHardout2005 "are differences, but Judaism being the root of Abrahamic religion - as well as one itself - should get a mention somehow."
There are differences? K, if my point hasn't gone through, I won't try again. The people who seriously study religion are hesitant to use that term. It's a pop term, not a meaningful one to those who go in-depth.
And all I said about morality is that your terms are original to you. If by subjective you meant relative, Hitchens does not advocate that.
AR333 8 months ago
@AR333 No I don't mean relative. I mean they come from without an objective source. If you've seen his debate with William Lane Craig you will see them debating objective morality. Good debate, too. Both very witty guys.
But that's what I was trying to get at - in Christian apologetics, we speak of objective morality as it comes from an objective source - namely God. Thus one can know that something is inherently good/evil without opinion coming into it. Hitchens uses this but makes his own up
TheHardout2005 8 months ago
@TheHardout2005 It there is a singular moral code instated by God, then God encourages slavery (Leviticus 25:45).
TheOllidon 8 months ago
@TheOllidon Not if you know what Leviticus is.
Also it doesn't have to be issued - much of it is innate to each human person.
TheHardout2005 8 months ago
@TheHardout2005 Oh no no no, I agree with you.
I am just pointing out that Leviticus is supposedly a set of laws from God, but if they are from him then he must be incredibly evil.
TheOllidon 8 months ago
@TheOllidon Oh I see.
My understanding of Lev is that its a book of Jewish law which the pharises would pride themselves on keeping.
Also I guess you could call him evil - but only on a subjective level (while the argument could be made that, on an objective level, if Lev is true and God is omnibenevolent, then everything in Lev is actually the opposite of evil, but objectively good! I won't make that argument, however haha).
TheHardout2005 7 months ago
@TheHardout2005 And, as you know, many of the rest of us see your objective source as a delusion. And I am not sure Hitchens would have pretense to objectivity here. I don't think he thinks any sort pure objectivity is possible.
sunkencheeks 8 months ago
@sunkencheeks Yes, I'm sure. Of course, I've always seen the whole 'delusion' thing as a naked assertion that is patently false, but enough on that.
No I don't think he does either, but it does appear to be the way he's presenting it. Perhaps he doesn't believe in moral objectivity - I'm not sure as he seemed to evade this in his debate against William Lane Craig - but apparently Sam Harris does, which I found interesting.
TheHardout2005 8 months ago
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@TheHardout2005 Or maby he understands it better than you and most people... Just like Matt Dillahunty
gangsterper 8 months ago
Now this gives a person, on either side of thinking, something to thing about, doesn't it?
kaymcclain1 8 months ago
@kaymcclain1
Quite agree.
artspooner 8 months ago
"...and terrible sexual repressions"
Haha, great speech.
shoplifting1is1fun 8 months ago
what a smart man
funrizwan 8 months ago
Remember religion is man's first attempt at science, health, physics, philosophy &morality. Because there was no real way of explaining nature, everything was ascribed to deities-that's why in order 2 identify with nature, people began 2 worship everything. They felt their finiteness within the universe & their susceptibility to suffering meant that their interactions with nature was one with God, especially since humans couldn't communicate with or control nature & animals through any language.
elitevestigator 8 months ago
hitchens is justifying killing, stealing, lying, cheating, dishonoring parents, etc. where is morality going!?
libetta 9 months ago
@libetta Your joking right?
13baldjj 9 months ago
@13baldjj
no. maybe hitchens is
libetta 8 months ago
@libetta
What do youmean? To reitterate 13baldjj, are you joking?
artspooner 8 months ago
@artspooner
is he your boss?
libetta 8 months ago
@libetta
What are you going on about? Either you've horrendously misunderstood the video or you're just trolling. Which is it?
artspooner 8 months ago
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@libetta
What do you mean? To reitterate 13baldjj, are you joking?
artspooner 8 months ago
@libetta
You mean your morality?? It says a lot about you if you need a fuckin' 2000 year old book to tell you not to steal, lie, kill og cheat. I can think by myself not to do those things.
Bhup1978 8 months ago
@Bhup1978
EVERYONE'S morality! do you not have it in your photographic memory code? (because you don't have notes on morality lol)
libetta 8 months ago
@Bhup1978
oh, and btw, the book does say it but there are still people who commit those crimes. hah!
libetta 8 months ago
For a better Hitchens speech about the 10 commandments google this:
"lifewithoutfaith hitchens mp3"
Hirnlego999 9 months ago
5:08 - 5:26 BRILLIANT BRILLIANT BRILLIANT
slye1991 9 months ago
If i may interject. Though humans may be animals, we have the highest capacity for thought of any known organism on this planet. I know not of any other species that boasts minds similar to Hawking or Hitchens himself. All of the natural world is beutiful, spectacular, and awsome to behold. But then, so are we.
sepheroth117 9 months ago
This is EXCELLENT!
madder66mortem 9 months ago
Great Logic: how can god be jealous cruel and insecure (these all are human traits), its certain that a bunch of jealous cruel and insecure people made god.
zacinfinite 10 months ago
If we were to judge nature by common sense or likelihood, we wouldn't believe the world existed. --Annie Dillard
AtheismisSatansBitch 10 months ago
classy
menkooomigen 10 months ago
Hitch forgot the Golden Rule. But i'll let it slide.
Just like how your mom let it slide. Last night. In my room. On her knees.
redshark618 10 months ago
"Don't be a cunt" Is pretty much the only commandment I think we need, it sums up what humans as a whole need to strive for.
bertamon 10 months ago
@bertamon jim jeffries :D
Neall07 10 months ago
amazing.
mahender6969 10 months ago
"Thou shalt turn off thy fucking cell phone". Hell yeah Hitch!
Logoscyth 10 months ago 45
Thou shalt not kill - (Invisible/lost writing: Anyone who believes in the might of our lord). Theres the justification for Moses ordering people killed.
MrNintoku 10 months ago
lol 4:50 his ass
zakugm 10 months ago
NOTHING SHORT OF B.R.I.L.L.I.A.N.C.E.
Maxantium 10 months ago
"Turn off that fucking cell phone."
TheGreatRL 10 months ago
"#9. turn off that fucking cellphone"
sheer class Mr Hitchens, sheer class.
fourbabies1 10 months ago 2
Adultery should have legal ramifications, but not the death penalty! Adultery could easily fall under breach of contract, since marriage is essentially a contract between two individuals and there is an explicit agreement for no party to cheat.
jaymthegenius 10 months ago 2
@jaymthegenius
Well thought out. I agree. Maybe they should forfeit 90% of their property.
MrNintoku 10 months ago
@jaymthegenius But what about adultery out of wedlock?
OverFjell 10 months ago
@jaymthegenius It is the children who really suffer in a divorce.
suggesttwo 9 months ago
@suggesttwo well, that can be true. However, in families where the parents hate each other so much and fight and treat each other like crap, the kids are relieved when they split, for it makes both parents happier, and all a kid wants is not to see her mother and father miserable. Because that tells her-this is the future...this is what you can expect...and that is how it's supposed to be. Kids only know what they are shown.
isisdron 9 months ago
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suggesttwo 9 months ago
@suggesttwo most divorces happen because one of the 2 "hardens" their heart and starts being stubborn. the divorce rate on first marriages is 50% of first marriages, 75% on second and third marriages. in other word one one has hardened their heart it is easier to scrap the marriage once it has been done b4 instead of doing the work and working it out. The one who leaves usually leaves the children with thier spouce. selfishness.
suggesttwo 9 months ago
@suggesttwo this is true also. But it doesnt change the fact that people can experience misery, and the kids pay the price during that misery.
isisdron 9 months ago
@isisdron If 2 people or 1 person is unwilling(read to selfish or too full of pride to get councel) to change and learn to treat each other with love and respect what makes you think they will take the time to learn this the second or third time around?
suggesttwo 9 months ago
@suggesttwo well, there is no guarantee they will ever change. Some do- say if they married young and really werent mature enough to handle commitment at the time-they still may realize their own mistakes down the line. This is not certain though, nothing is. I wish there was a magic wand that could make all people make better choices all the time. The world would certainly be a better place for it. Broken hearts are a sad thing. I hope you have a good day.
isisdron 9 months ago
@isisdron God did allow divorce because men hardened thier hearts. That is for things which were detestable in his sight or intolerable. cheating, beating(Mal2:10-16), murderer, thieves, violent people, liers, toublemakers(rumour spreaders, faulse witness:causes fights, injustice),
suggesttwo 9 months ago
@jaymthegenius ever heard of a "polyamorous relationship?"
CustomMagnumFilms 6 months ago
Not bad, but not nearly as good as George Carlin's "Two Commandments" either...
kslank3 10 months ago 2