Dirk Anderson: "Body Position" #2

[agusta1968]

WARNING: At 2:55 the bike is on the stand. After an edit cut at 3:00 it's off the stand because leaning off like that broke the part of the swing arm that holds the spool for the stand to hold up the bike. It actually broke part of the swing arm off and not the spool itself. So be careful if you are going to practice this on a stand. I know because I saw it.

[Coolybanana]

the best way to learn: take the basic, and whatever feels and works comfortable for you, use that technique. remember these "know how" people are cockheads. theu want you to learn their style of riding. everyone has his\her own style. u dont have to do everything that these people tells you. ride safe everyone.

[636Youssef]

anyone else notice he's on the best bike in the world??? 636 FTW BABY!!

[AlpinestarsR6]

I Think this guy needs a few tips from Keith Code & the CSS crew!

[ZXCORTEZ]

@AlpinestarsR6 I am sorry, but any of this guys, in any of the videos, in one minute, teach you more than keith code, in 2 hours of twist of the grip II

[JimmyGunXD556]

The only time i have 90% weight on my pegs is shifting body positions. Soon as i hang off i support my weight on the outside thigh and sit in the seat(1/2 cheek). I hope thats ok. I never seem to have a problem with it. I think describing actually what you are doing is allot like describing a golf swing. Feel and real can be 2 different things and where the confusion comes from.

[2002RM]

I think the only way to settle the "how do you steer the bike" debate is to do a head to head with one rider using countersteering and other demonstrating bodysteering as I'd love to see another "how not to ride my bike" crash video!

[Zparker31]

That's exactly what you are suppose to do....Those who do are faster...those who don't aren't riders......

[boa1626]

It's difficult to push on the outside peg when your weight is on the inside peg. Pushing on the outside peg will cause the bike to lean over more than if you push on the inside peg. I hang on with my outside knee to the tank and uses that knee to slide me into position again. I'm not often on the track, but I feel I've found a good position on the bike riding corners.

[dnbAyron]

lol guinny-pig man ftw!

[KingGreatness1101]

It is absolutely necessary to hang off that much. look where they are. their are not on main street anywhere, u dont see any other cars around. look at the bike it has no lights or mirrors. their talking about racing. if you do exactly what their taking about you can lean your bike way down like stoner or rossi. this is track racing not casual riding.

[bikatrash]

Everything he teaches is correct. To get a sportbike to turn really quick, you must get your butt off the seat and all your weight on your feet through the entire turn. If you are not sore in your quads after riding hard, then you might as well get a cruiser.

[SierraKilo9]

@bikatrash Or you might just be fit.

[balistic661]

OMG! All I can say is I have a bike I want Dirk to ride so he can SHOW me how to STEER the bike with your lower body? Oh and Dirk it's got a set of bars that are NOT attached to the steering head so we will see the exact amount of lower body steering you get! BRING IT.

Peg weighting? How are you going to weight any peg but the one under your body mass?

I don't even ride my dirt bike with only my feet and hands on the bike?

[xXxoSNOWoxXx]

I ran out of characters, but I must add that I am a total novice, so it may help to ask someone else. That is how I understood it though.

[fourfist]

I wish I had seen this video about 10 track days ago, I had to learn about lower body steering the hard way, and it was not fun. I want everyone to post this video for the safety of beginners, and everyone on the track.

cheers everyone

[lakebum]

keith code in his book says to weight the outside peg not the inside so where the trueth stands?

[tweekscratch]

@lakebum - He is actually talking about two things. First weighting the pegs does not steer the bike - that is what the clipons do. KC: 1 - press down with your ankle and drive your knee in to the tank to lock your lower body on to the bike so you have a base to support yourself. 2 - pushing from the outside peg across your body to the opposite clip on gives you more strength to turn the bike faster. Getting the bike turned fast is a lot of Code's teaching.

[xXxoSNOWoxXx]

Either you or I misread. You are pushing OFF of the outside peg. You push off the outside beg and end up weighting the inside one.

I could be wrong, but the way I read it was you push on the outside, which helps you shift weight to the inside, and push the bars.

The first time I read that line, I was like "what?!"

Even while you are mid turn, it helps to really push that outside peg. When you push that peg with your foot, it gives you more power to push on the bars with.

Hope that helps.

[zicothemagnificent]

I wonder how people rode fast before there were experts to show you how.

[urna55]

Um, By doing... People do learn just by doing something. It's called trial and error.

[tweekscratch]

@zicothemagnificent crashing - lots of crashing. And broken bones.  lots of broken bones

[zicothemagnificent]

I reckon there's more broken bones because average riders are paying for a few advanced lessons and then think they're Valentino Rossi out on the road. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing.

[todddhel]

what he also says about looking thru the corner is true. your bike will go in the direction your head is looking. a lot of riders (i did as well). get nervous when coming into a corner fast and they fixate on the edge of the road and not thru the turn and what happens is you end up going where your trying to avoid. so just look thru the turn keep looking to the spot you want to go and try hard not to focus on the edge of the road. i seen another video on here and they eplained it to a tee.

[MyFartsRock]

when i turn 90% of my weight is on either butt cheek. I do not press into my inside foot peg. I noticed no differnece in handling and i did not fatigue. anyone have any input on that being said? It works for me.

[misterwipedown]

more advance riders will put the outside thigh on the seat and have the butt completely off. Not for the street, but this works on the track. You can drag and elbow this way.

[protossenslaver]

You can drag anything you want by doing the exact positioning he's showing you here. I can drag elbow with little more than what he's saying (but then I'm 6'4" so I have a little more length than most). If you watch Ben "elbows" Spies, he does exactly as shown above, split your ass up the middle and get flat and low and low against the tank. The real trick to master is having no weight on your arms and letting your legs do the work.

[a2birdcage]

BS. More advanced riders will tell you that you don't need to hang-off that much. It's not about dragging knees and elbows for the sake of dragging body parts.

[misterwipedown]

I'm not arguing with you. I agree, anyone can drag anything just for the sake of it. Look at stylicst differences of Spies versus someone like Pedrosa. Its not about what you drag but how quickly you pick the bike up and get back on the throttle.

[JaygynandMattie]

@a2birdcage Then you are not an advanced rider. You hang off the bike so you dont have to lean the bike as much. The more you hang off, the less lean angle the bike needs to make that turn and that allows the bike to retain a larger contact patch on the back tire. It has nothing to do with dragging body parts, it has to do with making a turn by using your body, not maxing out the lean angle of the bike.

[a2birdcage]

@JaygynandMattie I understand the purpose of leaning off the bike. I never said it has anything to do with dragging body parts. I've done several schools and they all tell you that the most you need to do is get one butt cheek off of the seat. Any more than that puts you too far off the bike to transition to the other side quickly without using a lot of effort and possibly upsetting the chassis.

[JaygynandMattie]

@a2birdcage I am not going to argue with you about the "dragging body parts" comment. You said it, not me a year ago. I dont think you have a clue what hanging off the bike means, but if you think hanging your butt cheek off the seat constitutes hanging off the bike, you should take another class. What do you do with the rest of your body? You talk about upsetting the chassis, what do you think it does to the suspension when you are just worried about how far off the seat your ass is?

[a2birdcage]

@JaygynandMattie Btw, you don't turn a bike by using your body. You turn a bike by counter-steering the bars.

[JaygynandMattie]

@a2birdcage You must of bought your super-sport to tool around town and take it to work, buy a Harley for that. It is really kinda scary that you think a race bike turns by just counter-steering. You actually should be able to force the bike to turn in the direction you want it to go by weighting the peg and using your lower body along with hanging your upper body chest, head, elbows and shoulder off the side of the bike. You should have as little presuure on those handlebars as possible, so not

[a2birdcage]

@JaygynandMattie I actually race my bike on closed circuits. I've done Keith Code's school for the last three years. I'm also a paid instructor for a track school. When I said I hang one cheek off I didn't mean that was all. I shift my upper body out as well into the turn. I don't care how much you want to argue about it. I will run circles around you on the race track.............which is where I do all of my tooling around guy. I invite you to google Keith Code's No BS bike to see just how

[a2birdcage]

@JaygynandMattie little the bike actually moves from shifting your weight around and weighting the pegs. I'm sure it won't change your mind about anything as you seem to think you know it all but I challenge you to watch it with an open mind. Also if you haven't seen A Twist of The Wrist 2 on DVD you should give it a try. They show you the primary way to steer a bike...........with counter-steering.

[JaygynandMattie]

to upset the forks by applying too much force. Seriously, dude, I dont even ride proffesionally and I know that. Don't expect me to respond back, I said my peace. Good luck.

[b014318]

@a2birdcage Kind of ,it's a personal style .

[ZXCORTEZ]

@a2birdcage like the more advanced rider said in 5:17 ???

[NOEL2510]

LOTS OF HELP, THX

[jacklyw]

He is right about the front brake and clutch. I am going to adjust mine tomorrow morining.

[phoenixar]

great instruction