Compared to video, it is too simplistic! When white becomes radical, it is fascist, when the radical Muslim is, it is terrorist;, is not a sentence true?, But always easier to say that .. to decide for opignion all being met, there are so many different point of view!, there will
always be some who will not be in agreement with social integration. . the truth is that the Muslim, even perfectly civilized, will adapt very well to the group but will become very partisan and will tend to underestimate entourage are or will be totally the opposite and claim the whole world because no chance not available to him, so I therefore advise them to go to collect on the wall (lamentations) their worst enemy ....
Here is a short guide to real meaning of certain key words, when used by a Muslim.
Peace - The state of cessation of all resistance to Islam. Peace only exists when Islam rules politically and religiously, and all Islamic principles are established as the law of the land
Freedom - Freedom exists when Islam and its principles attain complete dominance and constitute the entirety of religious belief and political rule
The urge to dominate is the worst property of a human being. This property has mostly made a man wild than human. The globe now called the global village has always suffered destruction by this process. Whether you call it a clash of civilizations or religions or dividing mankind into various groups. Whichever group of human beings thinks he has gained power starts dominating the others and this is the worst terrorism on the globe, the most hateful action of man & must be stopped at all cost.
Israel doesn't own Gaza. It's 100% under control of Hamas. Fake Jews? A Jew is a Jew via birth, not creed and the ties to Israel by Jews is the same as ties to Mexico by Mexicans or Russia by Russians. There is NO ethnic cleansing as Pals. have been increasing their pop. by millions over the last 40 years w/ only a few thousand dead amidst wars. And there never was a state of Palestine; THe Romans gave that name to insult the Jews. Pals. already have a country: Jordan.
"I think that our objective is to always let our elected officials know that A) We do support Israel and that if anyone comes against Israel in a "malicious way" we would do everything in our power to see that it would be their last term in office." -- Pastor John Hagee
aegius - you are a liar! israel still occupies gaza with their military and controls all borders. the illegal wall strangles the palestinian economy and destroys any hope of a palestinian state. your illegal 40 + year occupation is nothing short of ethnic cleansing and erasing the memory of palestine. israel has wiped palestine off the map so FAKE jews with no ties to the land can steal from and abuse palestinians. go back to HASBARA school idiot.
i would just like to take this oppurtunity 2 tell u all about a new group, its called the army of peace, if you would like 2 join me and others in helpin 2 spread peace and understandin, n clearin misconceptions, plzz send me a message sayin ud like 2 join,
Israel already pulled out of Gaza and reined in the settlements to Jerusalem. They also set up fences around Gaza and W. Bank to cut themselves off from the Pals. The Pals. however raise their kids to blow themselves up for mass murder. Who are the real terrorists here? Kidnapping and torturing children? Look, if a kid is caught trying to blow himself up, he will be jailed.
yeah, problem. when it talks bout the Spanish bringing down their government. that wasn't brave and it wasn't good. they caved in to a terrorist attack and allowed islamic terrorists to topple a Western government. not exactly a good precedent.
i am not deleting any facts. i am deleting comments from ignorant people like you who spread bullshit anf hate only. the "official" UN count of 51,000 was put in the 2005. we are nearing 2008 and the death count from IRAQIS and human aid worjers who work IN IRAQ, report it over 500,000. where are your facts? i dont see any? are we obligated to take things as facts that you merely dig out of your ass?
500,000 LOL please you must have you English backwards. Fact means something that is true not a made up lie being spread by people like amnesty international.
turkey is and always will be a piece of crap. greece is the founder of western civ. and has one of the most respectable history, turkey was nothing in comparison, and wat great empire, the ottoman? they were a feeder kingdom of the byzantine empire, and were easily defeated in ww1.
tubealloveryourface, Ok smart arse! You've once again repeated your same comments about x30 times now...once again, I've marked them all as SPAM. If you mass repeat your boring comments on this scale again & continue to pester me by email everytime you do so; then I'll make a complaint against you directly to the YouTube Editor, in hope that will stop you spamming!
why do we care? why does the american gov. care? our soldiers are dying...700,000 iraqis have died...for what? talks about immediate withdrawel? you invade iraq. key word there is INVADE! then when the iraqis fight us invaders, they are terrorists? how hypocritic is that?
MaccusGermanis, what are you talking about, these weapons that these terrorists are using were only funded by us americans for them to use against iran when that was in out interest. then when we didnt need them, we called them WMD'S and invaded a poor nation of Iraq. if you ask ANY iraqi now, they would prefer saddam over our occupation
US involvement with Saddam, as a foil to the mullahs of Iran, is an established fact, but do you expect anyone to beleive that Saddam's nerve agents were "only funded" by Americans? Or do you think it was by American design that America conspired to gas a people that they do now bleed alongside? You are a fool even to suggest that all Iraqis prefer saddam over occupation.
You do realise that US did not kill Saddam and even thought his execution rash. There were still crimes that he should have seen trial for. A sovreign gov't of Iraq hanged Saddam.
"7th century barbarism is falling to civilization."
Calling them savages will not earn you points with them. BTW, muslims look like pretty much advanced savages for me. They have everything americans have. Cars, apartment buildings, electrity, etc. Yeah, they are poor but so are ecuatorians.
Whom did I call a savage? Islam is barbarism. Muslims are capable of discarding it. Just because a person is poor is no reason that they should be deprived of their freedoms. Many of the people of Iraq that you would have the US abandon, just as you noted the US had fromerly done, are poor.
Sure, they are poor and its none of your business. You wanna know how you could help them? With investments. Invest in water works, electrocity, factories, roads, etc.
Instead you torn the country apart with the promise to rebuild it "later". Later in this case means 20 years later and with a token 18 billion reconstruction budget. And only 2% of that budget has been invested so far in 4 years.
Also, although many people were returned in the 1900's, the bulk got in, easily. Today almost anyone who wants to move to the US has to do it ilegally because the legal alternative is a cruel joke.
Whatever reform of US immigration policy is needed, it doesn't prove any racism. Caucasians are having similar difficulties. Besides, who wants to go to such a "disgusting" place anyway?
Who wants to go to such a disgusting place? Lots of peopke who know the stereoties are false. You one the other hand are actively spreading stereotipes about muslims.
You see a muslim terrorist behead a histage and whaam! All muslims are beheading hostages.
Name one sterotype that I have used. Try to refute even one truth that I have advanced. It is true that a wide variety of people are considered to be American, while a muslim that becomes apostate will be killed in most islamic countries.
"Whatever reform of US immigration policy is needed, it doesn't prove any racism."
Oh but it is racist. See, the government cant come out and say "no mexicans allowed". Not gonna happen YET, but you can simply close the borders and say "no foreigners allowed" and save face. Since 95% of the inmigrants are hispanics, asians and indians that pretty much settles the matter.
A couple of brits may get it difficult to move in. Thats why you got a 50.000 per year legal inmigration quota.
Who has called for an end to immigration? Currently there is a debate among those that wish to offer some limted amnesty to those already here and others that wish to enforce extant laws. Neither constitutes saying, "no foreigners allowed." 50000 per year? What do you imply?
50.000 per year is the legal quota for inmigration. Supposedly it works like a lottery. You got a million people applying and 50.000 get in. On average you wait 20 years.
About the debate: The very reason there is a debate its because half of americans dont want inmigrants. If you all loved them, you wouldnt be having a debate in the first place.
Hmmm? Are we that different? One's societies have welcomed wide varieties of peoples into their national covenants, while the other kills their own apostates. Wanna help muslims, defend their rights to freedom of religion and speech. (In other words take this song and dance to Riyadh.) Civilizations are not clashing. 7th century barbarism is falling to civilization.
Are you suggesting that the Tejanos that fought in defense of the Alamo were racist against people that looked just like them? Or that these Tejanos' progeny that oppose illegal immigration hate Mexicans? It is illegal sneak across the border into America. It is not illegal to be ethnically Mexican. It is illegal to be Jewish in SA.
Well, its certainly ilegal to be jewish in SA, big deal. Who wants to go there anyway? Is that reason to bomb the country?
Texans are as racist as it gets. Defende the alamo against the mexican army? Texas was a part of Mexico until a gentle group of anglos took over it, declared independence and a while later joined the USA.
Legality my ass. Back in the 1900's all you had to do was show up at the door. Now you need to go through a 20 year admission process.
Perhaps you should look up the word "Tejano." I had thought the context of "racist against people that looked just like them" might have clued you.
And you are wrong about the 1900s.Many were turned away for health and sometimes even political reasons. That comes well short of disproving the clear preimmanence in the welcoming foreign cultures demonstrated by western civilizations in contrast to the islamic world.
"Mexican War of Independence, there were about 4,000 Tejanos living in Texas. In the 1820s, many Anglo settlers moved to Texas from the United States. By 1830, the 30,000 settlers in Texas outnumbered the Tejanos two to one. The Anglos and Tejanos alike rebelled against the centralized authority of Mexico City and the draconian measures implemented by the Santa Anna regime"
You ask me what the world is gonna respond to my defense? They pretty much agree with me already. Everyone is against the US except small bribed countries like Latvia or Israel.
Wow! You're actually resorting to asking questions? I suppose it is a start.
"256 political entities composed of 18,900 candidates have registered to compete in the 20 different elections -- the national election, 18 provincial elections, and Kurdistan Regional government election."
Top dogs are the rulers. The prime minister and his henchemen. They were put in place by the US and must routinely appear on camera to praise the US, otherwise they will fall out of Bush's grace as fast as "future prime minister Chalabi" did.
So which one is reportedly a US appointee. I'm looking through the names and they all seem to be democratically elected to a parliament wherein and by they were appointed.
Its a circus. You got 100 pre-candidates, say, and 95% got discarded by the US. The remaining approved generic candidates run and eventually one wins. He then proceeds to beg the US for security and token reconstruction aid. In return he praises the US on television.
I almost wish the reconstruction was as simple as you suggest. The US has money if Iraq were for sale. It is not. You give those working for their own sovereignty no credit.
There are some exceptions of course. First and second generation arabs usually are proud people. Non anglos europeans see themselves as "white enough", and dont feel the need to become anglos.
I am in what is often assumed to be the most racist part of what you assume is a racist country, and I am likely within 30 minutes of a proud whatever you'd like to name.
I have to go, i cant stay here forever. Maybe i'll come back later.
You know, one year ago i thought exactly like you. I bought the whole freedom and liberation speech. I reached a point when my mind could not support any more BS and here i'm.
America is not a bad country, ok? But you are not saints and the arabs are not devils.
BTW, i'm not arab, not even mexican. I'm a venezuelan jew raised as a zionist.
There is some BS to be waded through and the US and the democratically elected gov't of Iraq may yet fail, but liberty is the cause.
Americans are not saints nor or Arabs devils, nor are all Arabs islamic. But of islam and America, one's ideology is demonstrably better than the other.
That or support both the democratically elected gov't of Iraq that tells that to the insurgents and the US military that does punctuate the Iraqi's assertion.
You know, when Bush said a while ago he had a new amazing plan for Iraq i thought "whoa, maybe now he's gonna get serious, he's gonna use the mighty 500.000 men army of his dad".
Then it turned out he was going to send 20.000 extra soldiers. Why am i wasting my time?
All right, you are just supporting Iraq, fine. Lets make a conmemorative plate about it.
Does it matter outside the realm of the legal universe? What you have there is a war and you seem to be on the way to lose it. Thats it unless Americans get into full soviet mode and become ready for a total war, gloves off.
When you said "soviet style" were not you refering to their misadventures in Afghanistan. Were they did lose. But yes their callous attitudes did also lose them the cold war as well. In WW2 they'd have been crushed by Germany without a western front.
You brought it up. In fact it has no real bearing on what is going on in Iraq. Just another thing that you are misinformed about.
I was talking about WW2, ok? Soviets won because they were willing to take massive losses and never gave up. Like the insugents. Your country has suffered in 4 years what the soviets lost in half a day and already are talking about retreat. Pathetic.
The western front started in July 1944. Soviets had been at war for three years already and were killing germans like they were flies.
Not like flies. You first assertion is more correct. They were outmatched by the Germans and only persevered through sheer numbers. They were relieved by the opening up of a second front and supplied by the lend lease act. USSR could not have withstood Germany on its own.
The lend lease act supplied the soviets with less than 10% of their weapons. The western front started when the war was already over. What were the "allies" doing between 1939 and 1944? Preparing? While the russians were losing 9000 soldiers and 20000 civilians per day?
The allies were busy listening to people who said both "its too hard" and "its none of our business". I wish those types of people would just shut theirs traps.
Bullshit. There are those in the US that oppose war without qualification. And unlike islamic countries, we don't kil them for having an opposing view. We just make them feel like idiots in conversation.
You want a prize for not killing dissidents? What is your point? You face massive opposition at home and a broad and still do whatever you want. Thats the point.
Do it if you want to but dont claim to not act alone.
You remind me of Chavez. Chavez is a low level dictator who does whatever he wants to do, including shutting down TV stations. Half the country goes to the streets to march against him. He sees the marchs and praises his own government for allowing opossition, while at the same time ignoring it.
That its what pisses me off the most. Back in my warmongering days i supported the US and Israel because not only i thought their cause was just, but because they were strong and could easily crush any opposition.
Then came the iraq quagmire and that "what the hell was that about" war in Lebanon. With politicians and generals like that in charge maybe peace (retreat) doesnt sound so bad.
Actually, the US did not act completely alone. Nevertheless, US leadership did lead to the liberation of Iraqis that have now formed their own democratically elected gov't.
Dont change the subject. The US acted alone because, well, nobody supported it except the UK with its token force in Basra. You got the poles with its 50 soldiers, the danes, the japs sent like 500 men for reconstruction duties...
Remember the first gulf war? Everyone was with the US, including France and many arab states. I remember once watching an interview with a Saudi pilot who just shot down an iraqui jet.
Remember what was accomplished? That same useless coalition watched Kurds and Shi'a die from Saddam's attacks. What does the number of countries have to do with whether a cause is just or not?
It has nothing to do. A just cause is a just cause. But dont came here claiming that the US "does not act alone" because you basically do whatever you want to do. Which is not necesarily a bad thing.
Already resorting to recycling arguments? There was no reason to begin with to even start the war. You cant start a war by yourself, put a puppet government in place, "win" their support and claim that all you did was in colaboration with the government of Iraq.
In 2003 the government of Iraq was represented by saddam. Were you working with him back then?
Regardless of what reasons did and did not exist to begin the war, there are undeniable reasons to win it now. And the current gov't of Iraq is democratically elected.
I'm not in favor of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. A democratically elected gov't of Iraq does resist terrorist. The US does support them.
So basically you want victory at any cost. Fine. This will go to the books as the most expensive, bloody war ever fought in the name of.... women dont wearing burqas.
Oddly enough, women are free (however reprehensible I find it) to wear burqas in the US. You know, the United States of America, the country supposedly full of only wannabe Anglos.
As i said earlier, arab inmigrants are usually pretty proud people and MOST dont want to become anglos. The whole "i wanna be anglo" thing is a reality in black and hispanic communities.
Whatever. What does it has to do with what i said? The war in iraq is expensive, bloody, pointless and it was all done in the name of, you name it, women's right to not wear burqas.
Lemme tell you something. Iraqui women love their burqas and those who dont were free to not wear them when Saddam was in charge.
You should be carful that you don't encourage the fried to jump from the frying pan into the fire. Much is at stake in Iraq and many Iraqis have made whatever peace they must with the US because other contingincies are more terrible. You should consider their judgement.
Impossible in Iraq? Why? Other than you and others making excuses for their terrorists, I see no reason why they can't live happily ever after -it aint happening tommorrow- in their own country.
Allowed? Do you now criticize the US for being there now or not being there sooner? I'd opt for the latter but I understand that there is a strong undercurrent of non-intervention in American politics.
Body count? How many bodies make the jihadist cause just? Iraqis resist. The US supports them. Whatever mistakes the US might have made that is the crux of the matter.
I'm not talking about that. What i'm saying is that over 3000 soldiers have been killed and 20.000 wounded. Wounded means they lost limbs and the such.
How can you win a war with such loses? You certainly can, soviets lost 9.000 soldiers a day in WW2, but americans dont have the stomach for that.
Saw what happened? A coalition of anglos and tejanos (2 anglos per tejano) rebelled against mexico. Yet you say that the defenders of the alamo were somehow all tejanos, when they were just a third.
So thats your defense? You throw a couple of mexicans and blacks into the mix, treat them like crap and proclaim to the world about how "non-racist" you are because gee, at least you did not expeled the tejanos back to Mexico. You just stole the entire state. Good!
The point was that tejanos themselves chose to fight for reasons similar to those that you did list. Currently, Iraqis choose to fight for their freedom and the US does honor and uphold their labor.
Why didnt the tejanos rebeled before a shitload of anglos came to texas to "inspire them"? Looks like werever i see i see peaceful people being "liberated" by anglos.
Like the native americans. Liberated from their lands, their food and their lives. But at least a few surviving tribes (just a few) now own casinos.
I suppose you take what help you can get. Perhaps the tejanos weren't as predisposed to think that the anglos were out to get them as ill educated youths of today are thought to think.
Take what help you can get? There was no one rebelling before the anglos took over. Looks like the anglos were the one who convinced the tejanos to join them, under promises of a bright promise under benevolent, ilustrated, anglo rule.
Who are you calling racist? They are racist because they want their orderly society of many races to be secure, at the implied detriment to people who share their racial features?
Texas wasn't the only province to revolt at that time and the "Lone Star" republic wouldn't immediately become a part of the US.
No, it doesnt make me racist. If i call a chinese a chinese, does that makes me a chinese?
I'm not saying their are inferior or anything, just that they are racists, hate themselves and believe that if you integrate into the US deep enough, you will be an anglo.
So you think all Americans are wannabe Anglos? Our model of gov't does have a history in English law, but we do also take ispiration and counsel from ancient Greek states. Does that mean we, in our various tribes, are trying to be Greeks?
Also, here is a small unknown bit of data for you: Most latinos in the US HATE themselves. They moved to the US because they hated their home countries and desired to embrace the US in every aspect. The last thing they want are more latinos.
They are lying. Its all a facade. Deep inside they would love to be anglos. For them latino culture means a maxican flag in the basement and greeting each other with a "Hola".
It doesnt stop them from changing their names to something anglo-sounding, bashing other latinos and trying to improve their own race through interrace marriage.
Its rather interesting that you would use the languagem "tying to improve their own race though interacial marriage," while calling others self hating latinos?
Nobody is bombing SA. Have you glanced at a map? I brought it up because it has so many of islam's "holy" sites and is indicative of wide spread islamic hatred toward the kufr.
We've not bombed Iran. And we are not currently bombing Iraq. Jihadis are bombing Iraq. Our guys are the ones giving security aid to a democratically elected gov't. You know, because the supposed "freedom fighters" are against girls getting an education or women voting.
Girls had the right to an education in Iraq before the US went in to liberate them. And nobody was bombing then, not the jihadis, not the US air force, not the US artillery and not the US tanks.
Didn't take long to get behind all your "lets get together mantras" did it? You ask, who cares if a person born into islamic countries has the freedom to choose their own religion or speak for themselves. I do.
What about America "disgusts" them? I thought that the point of this video was that we weren't any different from them?
So even the stereo-types are the same? I wasn't aware that a global cadre of ill informed youth were trying to suggest that the jihadis were bombing Iraq for oil.
Tell me hero, why do you care so much about the right of the iraquis to express themselves? There was a time when wars were supposedly fought to prevent genocide. Now they are fought over civil rights. Right...
Remember all those kurds Saddam killed? They were pretty much dead in 2003. If you wanted to save them... too late.
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3aeshaah 7 months ago
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Fuken Muslims. Islam - the most violent and corrupt religion in the world. Muslims are the most hated people in the world.
ThebanPhalanx 2 years ago
Compared to video, it is too simplistic! When white becomes radical, it is fascist, when the radical Muslim is, it is terrorist;, is not a sentence true?, But always easier to say that .. to decide for opignion all being met, there are so many different point of view!, there will
trolllvigilance95 2 years ago
always be some who will not be in agreement with social integration. . the truth is that the Muslim, even perfectly civilized, will adapt very well to the group but will become very partisan and will tend to underestimate entourage are or will be totally the opposite and claim the whole world because no chance not available to him, so I therefore advise them to go to collect on the wall (lamentations) their worst enemy ....
trolllvigilance95 2 years ago
Here is a short guide to real meaning of certain key words, when used by a Muslim.
Peace - The state of cessation of all resistance to Islam. Peace only exists when Islam rules politically and religiously, and all Islamic principles are established as the law of the land
Freedom - Freedom exists when Islam and its principles attain complete dominance and constitute the entirety of religious belief and political rule
rakshark 3 years ago
rakshark
You have an excellent understanding of Islamic things.
steveascension 2 years ago
PEACE WILL PREVAIL
Cihan132 3 years ago 2
Islam Will Prevail InshAllah
KingAlonso786 3 years ago
@KingAlonso786 not quite...
Jtomo1987 1 year ago
So what is differnet about this one? I think you reposted the videos to bring views to your channel.
Krensharpaw 3 years ago
Though, I could be wrong, but really, why did you repost this?
Krensharpaw 3 years ago
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oh yessssss sooooooooooooooooooo different You cannot know in which point!
WhiteSpiritLess10dgr 3 years ago
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The urge to dominate is the worst property of a human being. This property has mostly made a man wild than human. The globe now called the global village has always suffered destruction by this process. Whether you call it a clash of civilizations or religions or dividing mankind into various groups. Whichever group of human beings thinks he has gained power starts dominating the others and this is the worst terrorism on the globe, the most hateful action of man & must be stopped at all cost.
yahoovisitor 3 years ago
Israel doesn't own Gaza. It's 100% under control of Hamas. Fake Jews? A Jew is a Jew via birth, not creed and the ties to Israel by Jews is the same as ties to Mexico by Mexicans or Russia by Russians. There is NO ethnic cleansing as Pals. have been increasing their pop. by millions over the last 40 years w/ only a few thousand dead amidst wars. And there never was a state of Palestine; THe Romans gave that name to insult the Jews. Pals. already have a country: Jordan.
Aegius 3 years ago
"I think that our objective is to always let our elected officials know that A) We do support Israel and that if anyone comes against Israel in a "malicious way" we would do everything in our power to see that it would be their last term in office." -- Pastor John Hagee
AIPACOWNSCONGRESS 4 years ago
aegius - you are a liar! israel still occupies gaza with their military and controls all borders. the illegal wall strangles the palestinian economy and destroys any hope of a palestinian state. your illegal 40 + year occupation is nothing short of ethnic cleansing and erasing the memory of palestine. israel has wiped palestine off the map so FAKE jews with no ties to the land can steal from and abuse palestinians. go back to HASBARA school idiot.
AIPACOWNSCONGRESS 4 years ago
i would just like to take this oppurtunity 2 tell u all about a new group, its called the army of peace, if you would like 2 join me and others in helpin 2 spread peace and understandin, n clearin misconceptions, plzz send me a message sayin ud like 2 join,
peace
69maynia69 4 years ago
Israel already pulled out of Gaza and reined in the settlements to Jerusalem. They also set up fences around Gaza and W. Bank to cut themselves off from the Pals. The Pals. however raise their kids to blow themselves up for mass murder. Who are the real terrorists here? Kidnapping and torturing children? Look, if a kid is caught trying to blow himself up, he will be jailed.
Aegius 4 years ago
yeah, problem. when it talks bout the Spanish bringing down their government. that wasn't brave and it wasn't good. they caved in to a terrorist attack and allowed islamic terrorists to topple a Western government. not exactly a good precedent.
WCB90 4 years ago
i am not deleting any facts. i am deleting comments from ignorant people like you who spread bullshit anf hate only. the "official" UN count of 51,000 was put in the 2005. we are nearing 2008 and the death count from IRAQIS and human aid worjers who work IN IRAQ, report it over 500,000. where are your facts? i dont see any? are we obligated to take things as facts that you merely dig out of your ass?
sakebloom 4 years ago
500,000 LOL please you must have you English backwards. Fact means something that is true not a made up lie being spread by people like amnesty international.
brscth 3 years ago
Anyway, racism will never end.
Luthrus 4 years ago
turkey is and always will be a piece of crap. greece is the founder of western civ. and has one of the most respectable history, turkey was nothing in comparison, and wat great empire, the ottoman? they were a feeder kingdom of the byzantine empire, and were easily defeated in ww1.
Scipio1770 4 years ago
tubealloveryourface, Ok smart arse! You've once again repeated your same comments about x30 times now...once again, I've marked them all as SPAM. If you mass repeat your boring comments on this scale again & continue to pester me by email everytime you do so; then I'll make a complaint against you directly to the YouTube Editor, in hope that will stop you spamming!
12235117657598502586 4 years ago
Excellent video... Hope this becomes a Movement...
ahmetatmaca 4 years ago
awewsome video....there is no different betweeen anybody....so let treat the people on that way...
anamtk10 4 years ago
why do we care? why does the american gov. care? our soldiers are dying...700,000 iraqis have died...for what? talks about immediate withdrawel? you invade iraq. key word there is INVADE! then when the iraqis fight us invaders, they are terrorists? how hypocritic is that?
sakebloom 4 years ago
Iraqis voted. Terrorists attacked them. And you now make excuses for terrorists. I'd call it hypocritical, but I think mo' would have done the same.
MaccusGermanis 4 years ago
@sakebloom yeah. they attack us, terrorists. we attack them, war on terror. justified when we're a developed country. thats bullshit.
Criscogurl21 1 year ago
MaccusGermanis, what are you talking about, these weapons that these terrorists are using were only funded by us americans for them to use against iran when that was in out interest. then when we didnt need them, we called them WMD'S and invaded a poor nation of Iraq. if you ask ANY iraqi now, they would prefer saddam over our occupation
sakebloom 4 years ago
US involvement with Saddam, as a foil to the mullahs of Iran, is an established fact, but do you expect anyone to beleive that Saddam's nerve agents were "only funded" by Americans? Or do you think it was by American design that America conspired to gas a people that they do now bleed alongside? You are a fool even to suggest that all Iraqis prefer saddam over occupation.
MaccusGermanis 4 years ago
You do realise that US did not kill Saddam and even thought his execution rash. There were still crimes that he should have seen trial for. A sovreign gov't of Iraq hanged Saddam.
MaccusGermanis 4 years ago
This is your main stereotipe:
"7th century barbarism is falling to civilization."
Calling them savages will not earn you points with them. BTW, muslims look like pretty much advanced savages for me. They have everything americans have. Cars, apartment buildings, electrity, etc. Yeah, they are poor but so are ecuatorians.
Favel22 4 years ago
Whom did I call a savage? Islam is barbarism. Muslims are capable of discarding it. Just because a person is poor is no reason that they should be deprived of their freedoms. Many of the people of Iraq that you would have the US abandon, just as you noted the US had fromerly done, are poor.
MaccusGermanis 4 years ago
Sure, they are poor and its none of your business. You wanna know how you could help them? With investments. Invest in water works, electrocity, factories, roads, etc.
Instead you torn the country apart with the promise to rebuild it "later". Later in this case means 20 years later and with a token 18 billion reconstruction budget. And only 2% of that budget has been invested so far in 4 years.
Favel22 4 years ago
The US is rebuilding. Again, I say the bombing campaign is over. The explosions come from islam's true beleivers.
MaccusGermanis 4 years ago
Also, although many people were returned in the 1900's, the bulk got in, easily. Today almost anyone who wants to move to the US has to do it ilegally because the legal alternative is a cruel joke.
Favel22 4 years ago
Whatever reform of US immigration policy is needed, it doesn't prove any racism. Caucasians are having similar difficulties. Besides, who wants to go to such a "disgusting" place anyway?
MaccusGermanis 4 years ago
Who wants to go to such a disgusting place? Lots of peopke who know the stereoties are false. You one the other hand are actively spreading stereotipes about muslims.
You see a muslim terrorist behead a histage and whaam! All muslims are beheading hostages.
Favel22 4 years ago
Name one sterotype that I have used. Try to refute even one truth that I have advanced. It is true that a wide variety of people are considered to be American, while a muslim that becomes apostate will be killed in most islamic countries.
MaccusGermanis 4 years ago
"Whatever reform of US immigration policy is needed, it doesn't prove any racism."
Oh but it is racist. See, the government cant come out and say "no mexicans allowed". Not gonna happen YET, but you can simply close the borders and say "no foreigners allowed" and save face. Since 95% of the inmigrants are hispanics, asians and indians that pretty much settles the matter.
A couple of brits may get it difficult to move in. Thats why you got a 50.000 per year legal inmigration quota.
Favel22 4 years ago
Who has called for an end to immigration? Currently there is a debate among those that wish to offer some limted amnesty to those already here and others that wish to enforce extant laws. Neither constitutes saying, "no foreigners allowed." 50000 per year? What do you imply?
MaccusGermanis 4 years ago
50.000 per year is the legal quota for inmigration. Supposedly it works like a lottery. You got a million people applying and 50.000 get in. On average you wait 20 years.
About the debate: The very reason there is a debate its because half of americans dont want inmigrants. If you all loved them, you wouldnt be having a debate in the first place.
Favel22 4 years ago
Hmmm? Are we that different? One's societies have welcomed wide varieties of peoples into their national covenants, while the other kills their own apostates. Wanna help muslims, defend their rights to freedom of religion and speech. (In other words take this song and dance to Riyadh.) Civilizations are not clashing. 7th century barbarism is falling to civilization.
MaccusGermanis 4 years ago
Right maccus, because everybody wants to move to Saudi Arabia. The lack of mexicans in Riyadh must be due to arab racism...
For americans "wide varieties of peoples" mean "wide varieties of northern europeans".
Aja.
Favel22 4 years ago
Are you suggesting that the Tejanos that fought in defense of the Alamo were racist against people that looked just like them? Or that these Tejanos' progeny that oppose illegal immigration hate Mexicans? It is illegal sneak across the border into America. It is not illegal to be ethnically Mexican. It is illegal to be Jewish in SA.
MaccusGermanis 4 years ago
Well, its certainly ilegal to be jewish in SA, big deal. Who wants to go there anyway? Is that reason to bomb the country?
Texans are as racist as it gets. Defende the alamo against the mexican army? Texas was a part of Mexico until a gentle group of anglos took over it, declared independence and a while later joined the USA.
Legality my ass. Back in the 1900's all you had to do was show up at the door. Now you need to go through a 20 year admission process.
Favel22 4 years ago
Perhaps you should look up the word "Tejano." I had thought the context of "racist against people that looked just like them" might have clued you.
And you are wrong about the 1900s.Many were turned away for health and sometimes even political reasons. That comes well short of disproving the clear preimmanence in the welcoming foreign cultures demonstrated by western civilizations in contrast to the islamic world.
MaccusGermanis 4 years ago
Oh? Now mexicans look like anglos? Since when?
Favel22 4 years ago
Do you have a dictionary? Hell, if all else fails, look it up on wikipedia. Tejano.
MaccusGermanis 4 years ago
"Mexican War of Independence, there were about 4,000 Tejanos living in Texas. In the 1820s, many Anglo settlers moved to Texas from the United States. By 1830, the 30,000 settlers in Texas outnumbered the Tejanos two to one. The Anglos and Tejanos alike rebelled against the centralized authority of Mexico City and the draconian measures implemented by the Santa Anna regime"
Favel22 4 years ago
And so what makes you think that the world will respond to your defenses of the "draconian" regimes of the islamic world?
MaccusGermanis 4 years ago
You ask me what the world is gonna respond to my defense? They pretty much agree with me already. Everyone is against the US except small bribed countries like Latvia or Israel.
Favel22 4 years ago
You forgot the democratically elected gov't of Iraq.
MaccusGermanis 4 years ago
The democratically elected government of Iraq is a puppet of the US government. Who choosed the candidates to run for office, may i ask you?
Favel22 4 years ago
Wow! You're actually resorting to asking questions? I suppose it is a start.
"256 political entities composed of 18,900 candidates have registered to compete in the 20 different elections -- the national election, 18 provincial elections, and Kurdistan Regional government election."
MaccusGermanis 4 years ago
All those candiadates my friend, were running for low level positions as mayors, councelors, etc. And they are being routinely blown up by insurgents.
The top dogs at the iraqui government were put in place by the US.
Favel22 4 years ago
Which top dogs?
MaccusGermanis 4 years ago
Top dogs are the rulers. The prime minister and his henchemen. They were put in place by the US and must routinely appear on camera to praise the US, otherwise they will fall out of Bush's grace as fast as "future prime minister Chalabi" did.
Favel22 4 years ago
Name them.
MaccusGermanis 4 years ago
Iyad Allawi, Ibrahim al Jafaari, Nouri al maliki.
And everyone favorite out of grace golden boy: Chalabi.
Favel22 4 years ago
So which one is reportedly a US appointee. I'm looking through the names and they all seem to be democratically elected to a parliament wherein and by they were appointed.
MaccusGermanis 4 years ago
Its a circus. You got 100 pre-candidates, say, and 95% got discarded by the US. The remaining approved generic candidates run and eventually one wins. He then proceeds to beg the US for security and token reconstruction aid. In return he praises the US on television.
Favel22 4 years ago
I almost wish the reconstruction was as simple as you suggest. The US has money if Iraq were for sale. It is not. You give those working for their own sovereignty no credit.
MaccusGermanis 4 years ago
The average iraqui wants liberty and money, all right, but the US is not providing them with it. Not even with security.
If you wanted to destroy their lives, congratulations. If you tried to help them, you failed.
And everyone warned you.
Favel22 4 years ago
Is that why you rejoice? OK the US is setback, in ways embarassed. Why can't you support the democratically elected gov't of Iraq?
MaccusGermanis 4 years ago
I'm not rejoicing, i'm just debunking the BS sprouted by the white house and that you bought so quick. Has nothing to do with me hating the iraquis.
Favel22 4 years ago
Oh, I guess that's just a bonus then. If you care about them, then support their freedom rather than their enslavement to islam.
MaccusGermanis 4 years ago
Its too late. The iraquis are fucked. The best way to help them is letting them escape. Maybe the USA could take them if it wasnt so racist.
Favel22 4 years ago
All of the many races of America are not self hating wannabe Anglos. The idea is actually rather amusing.
MaccusGermanis 4 years ago
Amusing, yes, true, yes.
There are some exceptions of course. First and second generation arabs usually are proud people. Non anglos europeans see themselves as "white enough", and dont feel the need to become anglos.
Favel22 4 years ago
I am in what is often assumed to be the most racist part of what you assume is a racist country, and I am likely within 30 minutes of a proud whatever you'd like to name.
MaccusGermanis 4 years ago
I have to go, i cant stay here forever. Maybe i'll come back later.
You know, one year ago i thought exactly like you. I bought the whole freedom and liberation speech. I reached a point when my mind could not support any more BS and here i'm.
America is not a bad country, ok? But you are not saints and the arabs are not devils.
BTW, i'm not arab, not even mexican. I'm a venezuelan jew raised as a zionist.
Favel22 4 years ago
There is some BS to be waded through and the US and the democratically elected gov't of Iraq may yet fail, but liberty is the cause.
Americans are not saints nor or Arabs devils, nor are all Arabs islamic. But of islam and America, one's ideology is demonstrably better than the other.
MaccusGermanis 4 years ago
Agreed, liberty is better than islam. Thats for you and me. Go tell that to an insurgent.
Favel22 4 years ago
That or support both the democratically elected gov't of Iraq that tells that to the insurgents and the US military that does punctuate the Iraqi's assertion.
MaccusGermanis 4 years ago
You know, when Bush said a while ago he had a new amazing plan for Iraq i thought "whoa, maybe now he's gonna get serious, he's gonna use the mighty 500.000 men army of his dad".
Then it turned out he was going to send 20.000 extra soldiers. Why am i wasting my time?
Favel22 4 years ago
Rather the difference between an occupying force and a how many times must I say it, force supporting a democratically elected government.
MaccusGermanis 4 years ago
All right, you are just supporting Iraq, fine. Lets make a conmemorative plate about it.
Does it matter outside the realm of the legal universe? What you have there is a war and you seem to be on the way to lose it. Thats it unless Americans get into full soviet mode and become ready for a total war, gloves off.
Favel22 4 years ago
The soviets lost. The democratically elected gov't of Iraq and supporting US armies still stand.
MaccusGermanis 4 years ago
The soviets won WW2, WTF are you talking about? Who's talking about the cold war?
Favel22 4 years ago
When you said "soviet style" were not you refering to their misadventures in Afghanistan. Were they did lose. But yes their callous attitudes did also lose them the cold war as well. In WW2 they'd have been crushed by Germany without a western front.
You brought it up. In fact it has no real bearing on what is going on in Iraq. Just another thing that you are misinformed about.
MaccusGermanis 4 years ago
I was talking about WW2, ok? Soviets won because they were willing to take massive losses and never gave up. Like the insugents. Your country has suffered in 4 years what the soviets lost in half a day and already are talking about retreat. Pathetic.
The western front started in July 1944. Soviets had been at war for three years already and were killing germans like they were flies.
Favel22 4 years ago
Not like flies. You first assertion is more correct. They were outmatched by the Germans and only persevered through sheer numbers. They were relieved by the opening up of a second front and supplied by the lend lease act. USSR could not have withstood Germany on its own.
MaccusGermanis 4 years ago
The lend lease act supplied the soviets with less than 10% of their weapons. The western front started when the war was already over. What were the "allies" doing between 1939 and 1944? Preparing? While the russians were losing 9000 soldiers and 20000 civilians per day?
Favel22 4 years ago
The allies were busy listening to people who said both "its too hard" and "its none of our business". I wish those types of people would just shut theirs traps.
MaccusGermanis 4 years ago
Maybe in the US, but not in the UK. And all opossition to the war died in the US after the attack on pearl harbour. Nice try.
Favel22 4 years ago
Bullshit. There are those in the US that oppose war without qualification. And unlike islamic countries, we don't kil them for having an opposing view. We just make them feel like idiots in conversation.
MaccusGermanis 4 years ago
You want a prize for not killing dissidents? What is your point? You face massive opposition at home and a broad and still do whatever you want. Thats the point.
Do it if you want to but dont claim to not act alone.
Favel22 4 years ago
You remind me of Chavez. Chavez is a low level dictator who does whatever he wants to do, including shutting down TV stations. Half the country goes to the streets to march against him. He sees the marchs and praises his own government for allowing opossition, while at the same time ignoring it.
Favel22 4 years ago
That its what pisses me off the most. Back in my warmongering days i supported the US and Israel because not only i thought their cause was just, but because they were strong and could easily crush any opposition.
Then came the iraq quagmire and that "what the hell was that about" war in Lebanon. With politicians and generals like that in charge maybe peace (retreat) doesnt sound so bad.
Favel22 4 years ago
The US can not, does not act alone. Perhaps you've heard, a democratically elected gov't does exist in Iraq.
MaccusGermanis 4 years ago
Does not act alone? YOU ACTED ALONE WHEN YOU INVADED IRAQ DESPITE GLOBAL OPPOSITION ABROAD AND AT HOME!!
Favel22 4 years ago
Actually, the US did not act completely alone. Nevertheless, US leadership did lead to the liberation of Iraqis that have now formed their own democratically elected gov't.
MaccusGermanis 4 years ago
Dont change the subject. The US acted alone because, well, nobody supported it except the UK with its token force in Basra. You got the poles with its 50 soldiers, the danes, the japs sent like 500 men for reconstruction duties...
Sure, looks like a global alliance for me.
Favel22 4 years ago
Well I wouldn't expect Sudan to fight for human rights, nor a dhimmified France. US, UK, Poland,Japan, sounds like a road trip to me.
MaccusGermanis 4 years ago
4 countries out of 200 supported you.
Remember the first gulf war? Everyone was with the US, including France and many arab states. I remember once watching an interview with a Saudi pilot who just shot down an iraqui jet.
Favel22 4 years ago
Remember what was accomplished? That same useless coalition watched Kurds and Shi'a die from Saddam's attacks. What does the number of countries have to do with whether a cause is just or not?
MaccusGermanis 4 years ago
It has nothing to do. A just cause is a just cause. But dont came here claiming that the US "does not act alone" because you basically do whatever you want to do. Which is not necesarily a bad thing.
Favel22 4 years ago
In Iraq, the US does act with a sovreign democratically elected gov't.
MaccusGermanis 4 years ago
Already resorting to recycling arguments? There was no reason to begin with to even start the war. You cant start a war by yourself, put a puppet government in place, "win" their support and claim that all you did was in colaboration with the government of Iraq.
In 2003 the government of Iraq was represented by saddam. Were you working with him back then?
Favel22 4 years ago
"Recycling arguments" or remedial education?
Regardless of what reasons did and did not exist to begin the war, there are undeniable reasons to win it now. And the current gov't of Iraq is democratically elected.
MaccusGermanis 4 years ago
So basically what you want is victory at any cost, i'm reading you correctly?
Favel22 4 years ago
I'm not in favor of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. A democratically elected gov't of Iraq does resist terrorist. The US does support them.
MaccusGermanis 4 years ago
So basically you want victory at any cost. Fine. This will go to the books as the most expensive, bloody war ever fought in the name of.... women dont wearing burqas.
Favel22 4 years ago
Oddly enough, women are free (however reprehensible I find it) to wear burqas in the US. You know, the United States of America, the country supposedly full of only wannabe Anglos.
MaccusGermanis 4 years ago
As i said earlier, arab inmigrants are usually pretty proud people and MOST dont want to become anglos. The whole "i wanna be anglo" thing is a reality in black and hispanic communities.
Whatever. What does it has to do with what i said? The war in iraq is expensive, bloody, pointless and it was all done in the name of, you name it, women's right to not wear burqas.
Lemme tell you something. Iraqui women love their burqas and those who dont were free to not wear them when Saddam was in charge.
Favel22 4 years ago
You should be carful that you don't encourage the fried to jump from the frying pan into the fire. Much is at stake in Iraq and many Iraqis have made whatever peace they must with the US because other contingincies are more terrible. You should consider their judgement.
MaccusGermanis 4 years ago
I dont want them to jump into the fire. I want them to live happily ever after. Wich is impossible in Iraq.
The best choice for them is inmigration. Will the US take them yes or no?
You have the right to reject them, but then dont come back later saying your country is not racist.
Favel22 4 years ago
Impossible in Iraq? Why? Other than you and others making excuses for their terrorists, I see no reason why they can't live happily ever after -it aint happening tommorrow- in their own country.
MaccusGermanis 4 years ago
I'm not making excuses for their terrosrism. I condemn terrorism but it was YOUR country the one which allowed terrorists to flourish in Iraq.
And you cannot defeat them, no matter what i say. The body count proves it.
Favel22 4 years ago
Allowed? Do you now criticize the US for being there now or not being there sooner? I'd opt for the latter but I understand that there is a strong undercurrent of non-intervention in American politics.
Body count? How many bodies make the jihadist cause just? Iraqis resist. The US supports them. Whatever mistakes the US might have made that is the crux of the matter.
MaccusGermanis 4 years ago
I'm not talking about that. What i'm saying is that over 3000 soldiers have been killed and 20.000 wounded. Wounded means they lost limbs and the such.
How can you win a war with such loses? You certainly can, soviets lost 9.000 soldiers a day in WW2, but americans dont have the stomach for that.
Favel22 4 years ago
Don't bank on it.
MaccusGermanis 4 years ago
Saw what happened? A coalition of anglos and tejanos (2 anglos per tejano) rebelled against mexico. Yet you say that the defenders of the alamo were somehow all tejanos, when they were just a third.
Favel22 4 years ago
A third is a third. They existed. You are the one that tried to suggest that this and all other US wars were racist.
MaccusGermanis 4 years ago
So thats your defense? You throw a couple of mexicans and blacks into the mix, treat them like crap and proclaim to the world about how "non-racist" you are because gee, at least you did not expeled the tejanos back to Mexico. You just stole the entire state. Good!
Favel22 4 years ago
And where are the Jews of Khaibar?
The point was that tejanos themselves chose to fight for reasons similar to those that you did list. Currently, Iraqis choose to fight for their freedom and the US does honor and uphold their labor.
MaccusGermanis 4 years ago
Why didnt the tejanos rebeled before a shitload of anglos came to texas to "inspire them"? Looks like werever i see i see peaceful people being "liberated" by anglos.
Like the native americans. Liberated from their lands, their food and their lives. But at least a few surviving tribes (just a few) now own casinos.
Favel22 4 years ago
I suppose you take what help you can get. Perhaps the tejanos weren't as predisposed to think that the anglos were out to get them as ill educated youths of today are thought to think.
MaccusGermanis 4 years ago
Take what help you can get? There was no one rebelling before the anglos took over. Looks like the anglos were the one who convinced the tejanos to join them, under promises of a bright promise under benevolent, ilustrated, anglo rule.
Favel22 4 years ago
And those progeny of tejanos today want border enforcement.
MaccusGermanis 4 years ago
Sure they want border enforcement, because now they are assimilated americans and as good americans, they embrace racism.
Looks like legality is not such a big deal when it comes to stealing half a country
Anglos moving to TeJas: Good.
Mexicans moving to TeXas: Bad.
Favel22 4 years ago
Who are you calling racist? They are racist because they want their orderly society of many races to be secure, at the implied detriment to people who share their racial features?
Texas wasn't the only province to revolt at that time and the "Lone Star" republic wouldn't immediately become a part of the US.
MaccusGermanis 4 years ago
Yes, they are racist because they dont want any stinking mexicans ruining the landscape. Even if they are mexicans themselves.
Favel22 4 years ago
And so when you call them racist, does that make you racist?
MaccusGermanis 4 years ago
No, it doesnt make me racist. If i call a chinese a chinese, does that makes me a chinese?
I'm not saying their are inferior or anything, just that they are racists, hate themselves and believe that if you integrate into the US deep enough, you will be an anglo.
Favel22 4 years ago
So you think all Americans are wannabe Anglos? Our model of gov't does have a history in English law, but we do also take ispiration and counsel from ancient Greek states. Does that mean we, in our various tribes, are trying to be Greeks?
MaccusGermanis 4 years ago
Well you certainly love the greeks. Your culture, and mexican culture also, are based on greek-latin teachings mixed with judeo-christianism.
But answering your question, yeah, all americans want to be anglos. Most of them at least. Would make their lifes increadibly easier.
Favel22 4 years ago
Easier perhaps, but maybe more boring?
MaccusGermanis 4 years ago
How boring? Helping millions save their lives is boring for you?
Favel22 4 years ago
Well, we've been at it so long its rather old hat now.
MaccusGermanis 4 years ago
Also, here is a small unknown bit of data for you: Most latinos in the US HATE themselves. They moved to the US because they hated their home countries and desired to embrace the US in every aspect. The last thing they want are more latinos.
Favel22 4 years ago
In fact many latinos that I have met retain a pride of their ethnicity and county. The hate communism.
MaccusGermanis 4 years ago
They are lying. Its all a facade. Deep inside they would love to be anglos. For them latino culture means a maxican flag in the basement and greeting each other with a "Hola".
It doesnt stop them from changing their names to something anglo-sounding, bashing other latinos and trying to improve their own race through interrace marriage.
Favel22 4 years ago
Its rather interesting that you would use the languagem "tying to improve their own race though interacial marriage," while calling others self hating latinos?
MaccusGermanis 4 years ago
The words "improve the race" are not of my own making. That is how they think, in general.
Favel22 4 years ago
You're rather an expert on what "they think."
MaccusGermanis 4 years ago
When jews were being rounded up and killed in Europe, the US did absolutely nothing about it until 1944.
But if jews are "ilegal" in SA and forbidden from entering, lets bomb the place!
Favel22 4 years ago
Nobody is bombing SA. Have you glanced at a map? I brought it up because it has so many of islam's "holy" sites and is indicative of wide spread islamic hatred toward the kufr.
MaccusGermanis 4 years ago
But you are bombing Iraq, same shit. You are months ago from bombing Iran.
Favel22 4 years ago
We've not bombed Iran. And we are not currently bombing Iraq. Jihadis are bombing Iraq. Our guys are the ones giving security aid to a democratically elected gov't. You know, because the supposed "freedom fighters" are against girls getting an education or women voting.
MaccusGermanis 4 years ago
Girls had the right to an education in Iraq before the US went in to liberate them. And nobody was bombing then, not the jihadis, not the US air force, not the US artillery and not the US tanks.
Favel22 4 years ago
Do not the Kurds and the Shi'a count? Saddam killed both in large numbers.
MaccusGermanis 4 years ago
Saddam killed shitloads of people years before the invasion. In the 80's and early 90's.
In 1991 the US had a 500.000 men army in the gulf and yet it refused to stop the kurd genocide because it was "non of our business"
Favel22 4 years ago
shameful.
MaccusGermanis 4 years ago
And that apostacy is illegal there. While muslims are very much like us, islam is good for neither of us.
MaccusGermanis 4 years ago
NAD WHO CARES IF APOSTACY IS ILEGAL THERE??? ITS THEIR CULTURE!!! LEAVE THEM ALONE.
They look at america and are disgusted by what they see.
Favel22 4 years ago
Didn't take long to get behind all your "lets get together mantras" did it? You ask, who cares if a person born into islamic countries has the freedom to choose their own religion or speak for themselves. I do.
What about America "disgusts" them? I thought that the point of this video was that we weren't any different from them?
MaccusGermanis 4 years ago
They are disgusted by the stereotipes. The same stereotipes you are now spreading about muslims.
Or what you say? Stereotipes about america are false, but stereotipes about muslims are wrong?
Favel22 4 years ago
So even the stereo-types are the same? I wasn't aware that a global cadre of ill informed youth were trying to suggest that the jihadis were bombing Iraq for oil.
MaccusGermanis 4 years ago
What? Who is suggesting the jihadis are bombing iraq for oil? I certainly did not.
Favel22 4 years ago
Tell me hero, why do you care so much about the right of the iraquis to express themselves? There was a time when wars were supposedly fought to prevent genocide. Now they are fought over civil rights. Right...
Remember all those kurds Saddam killed? They were pretty much dead in 2003. If you wanted to save them... too late.
Favel22 4 years ago
But what about those still alive and active in the democratically elected gov't of Iraq?
MaccusGermanis 4 years ago
Stop the Clash of Civilizations
stsweetlove 4 years ago