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  • great job. I do not know English very well but I will try. If you put the magnet on the other hand you can use the wheel's direction of spin, so the wheel can automatically move the magnet at a certain point. and since it has enough power to run a long time, and without the magnet, then you can do it easily. with a single curved rod, your job is finished. Thank you.

  • How about using a cam?

  • Listen to some classical music like beethoven or bach, this will help your brain waves from jumping around too much.

  • use enough bar magnets spread around the outside to get enough thrust to push past the gate

  • doesn't it take more energy to adjust the magnet in your hand then the wheel produces?

  • v shaped magnet in middle of rows will work too with a little magnet configuring

  • ground interupt on the magnet, triggered off the wheel rotation

  • couldn't you simply make a pulley system that creats a 2 way piston synchronizing the free magnet? or the energy the spinning produces is smaller than the energy needed to move the free magnet? (probably it is, and that's the reason why these motors just don't work... but anyway...)

  • THAT SHOULD WORK !!!-WITH A CAM AND SHAFT !

  • oh, and with the shieding idea you might also include a second and third repulsing magnet.

  • Try little pieces of steel as sheilding at the gate. to nutralize the resistance then the shielding is reduced till it's past the gate.

    OR have a cam attached to the wheel raise and lower the repulser magnet.

  • I don't care what anyone says bad about this, if it is real, it is a great discovery! On the "hand operated" issue, forget using a cam and follower to operate it, use a cam, but make the follower a magnet! Have a postive magnet on the end of the cam, and a positive on the lever you are trying to operate. This way they will repell each other, without any real friction at all! If you arrange it right, the action will be very fast, and well timed! Good luck!

  • @mechanicsnut - the movement of the hand is providing all the power - i.e. it is the external power source. As the device itself produces no power it therefore cannot power a cam to achieve the same effect as the hand. People have tried this idea I would guess thousands of times all with the same result. Magnetic motors don't produce power therefore they can never self run.

  • very inefficent "human" motor

  • how about layering the v gates together as to where the magnet DOESNT have to be moved? or using 2-3 magnet 'carts' so that when one magnet comes to the end of the gate, it'll be forced into the next gate when the next 1 or 2 magnets finish the previous gate..--- /watch?v=3r2aZ3llqok ----might better explain the concept idea i'm trying to get at. it's just an idea however, i just recently learned about this thing today

  • Add a cam, take the hinge for the bar magnet, and move it to the top so gravity hangs the lever arm straight down. Add wheels to ride the cam when the lobe comes in range, and make sure the wheels only contact it when it needs to move, so it minimizes friction when rolling away on the cam.

  • thats a verry expensive rig there. any who just put the part your controlling on tracks

  • Move your wheels farther apart. Insert a stator between them in a seesaw mount, so when one end of stator is down, the other side is up. Stagger the gates of each array. Ramp up & over the gate. When stator comes off ramp, opposite array ramps up & puts it back into play.

  • all this needs is a mechanical timer! like, attach a stick or a pole to the wheel or something that will push the magnet you're holding away.

    I've only seen one video with an actual automatic timer. would LOVE to see a follow up video incorporating this idea!

  • You don't need an electromagnet. Add something on the rim of the wheel that is higher than the attached magnets that will knock the armature out of the way at the moment it gets to the gap.

  • you know that part that requires you to lift the stator? what if you were to put it before the tail of the line of magnets runs out? also, if the magnet was higher at one end and lower at the other, and you use the spiral arangement on the rotor, and as it spins it comes upt towards the stator.... or would that simulate a flat surface? idk its just an idea...

  • Man this is true, if this really works as you show... with a CAM on the rotating tube and a spring on the back of this moving head it'd be nice. Hands off bro !! Are all the rotor magnets pointed with the same pole up ??

  • Wow! A hand powered wheel. What will they think of next?

  • @LiamXaoh HAAAA !!!!!! Im laughing my ass off right now. You again! Now your on every youtube video dogin videos. Holy shit man Im tearing up i laughed so hard when I seen you in here. Dude. You are a real losser. Dude. What the fuck. Im not going to tell you to stop. Everytime you make a losser remark I fell like a bigger winner. Please keep up the retarded remarks. Its good for my self esteam and the funny bone.

  • @kren2012 whaaahaaa ,made out of crap whit friends &beer ,bet you don,t have friends & beer !

  • Quite a nifty piece of metal fabrication.

  • I know how these work , but i have only 1 question : how much torque is in the wheel when the magnet is lowered in the applied force zone

  • and, where is the point? give it a push whith your hand or whith an magnet - that is the same. the hand can do it faster.

  • Watch this video: selfrunning working permanent magnet motor from Roobert33

    by FreeEnergyLT

    v=1IXI1_DFx3g

  • @espensteenberg I seen this already. Very good shit. Nice find though. Keep it up.

  • what happens when you believe nut cases over true scientist?

  • i would try putting the magnet in your hand on an angled track. the put two magnets at the point of resistance with opposite poles pointing at your drive magnet. This will cause the magnet to roll away and then gravity will pull it back down. you might need to center some small weights to help the wheel push the drive magnet and not reverse the spin, or a lighter drive magnet, but that might take away from your velocity.

  • Check out this post - on you tube - /v/wwLwEs0iu7U?

  • could you put a non magnetic ramp to make go by itself

  • Hey man, I got an idea to improve your magnetic wheel, I just made a picture to show you my idea, resuming, I put a plastic into the wheel to take away the arm when we need it away from the hard zone, please see the picture, its not a joke.

    s2.ipicture.ru/uploads/2010120­2/S3XW96JW.gif

    Tell me what you think, could it work ?

  • Actually you are powering it with your right hand...there is no peerptuum mobile yet...

  • Gday I'm pondering dealing with heat for losing/ gaining magnetism. Is it possible to play with temperature efficently on your stator to pass the gate?

  • make 2 or 3 gates

  • you need to traslate this to your home language,

    si pones un bordo o relieve en la rueda de los magnetos que giran para que levanten a el otro iman en el pundo donde tu tienes que moverlo con la mano. tal vez podria funcionar.

  • Use a cam.

  • if you used a cam that pushes the manual stator away at the right time and maybe a spring that pushes it back into the magnetic field of the wheel once the sticky spot is passed, could this idea work?

    that way it's not you pushing the stator, but the spring, once it's set in motion, you could use a circuit with some relays and tuning-switches to change speed (also you could make the stator mechanical but use the handcrank power to run a relay that makes the stator go up and down...

    my ² cents

  • Instead of moving the stator up, what about if you have 6 or 8 stators equally spaced around the wheel??

    So, when one stator is "confronting" the gate (sticky spot), there are other 5 or 7 stators giving impulse to the wheel. Don't you think 5 stators are stronger than just one stator "stuck" at the gate?

    Don't move the stator, just make 6 or 8 stators equally spaced around the wheel.

  • google f2 magnetics ltd they the first result i have used them based 5 mile from me they made my electromagnets to my spec the cheaper you wont custom windings the longer you wait as they will just ft you in when they doing something of simular size hope that helps you. i know its allmost a year ago you asked for help sorry but ive only just seen your clip, good luck.

  • use an atraction magnet on the wheel at the lift point as a cam , one on the wheel one on the pusher magnet , the pusher needs a stop block to rest on against an ajustable spring , the magnet in the center of the wheel also needs to be ajustable

    to ajust the timeing , cant see you getting much power out of it thow its more fly wheel than moter , gravity wheel realy !

  • Try some different background music, that should help a lot!

  • Then the cam follower large disc is directly connected to you pusher magnet but because it only has a 2mm lift on the cam the linkage has to be connected close to the pivot point so it gives you 15 mm lift - the reason for the small lift on the cam is to reduce reverse drag torque - if you have ever hit a stone on a skate board you will know what I mean.

  • You need a small cam on the shaft between the two main wheels - this cam is a simple small disc with a very small bump on it say 2mm high by 5mm long - then you need a large disc to follow that cam that will be about half the diameter of the 2 large dics you have already

  • can you tell me how you made that?? if theres like directions anywhere, could you help? i would like to start researching things like this, and i love this design! thanks

  • A simulation in a physics software (Algodoo) of the idea of using a cam to move the stator:

    watch?v=0XIMPmhMJlY

  • Currently you are doing that movement with the hand...

    Can you make a form like eeeh, well, the half life logo to be precisice. That part will be in the middle that will "push up" the magnet you currently doing with your hand. I wonder how that works out.

  • I'm with deliquenme, I vote for a cam on the rotor at the V gate - but also multiple stators so that force is applied during the operation of the cam. The cam could be just a narrow steel roller. It would throw balance off some.

  • I was tinkin of somethig, although it is gonna mean more work! Build another 2, exact as this one, and have a pair of permanent magnets on each of the 3 wheels that repel that bar just in time to hop over the catching point. The 3 wheels are off set so that only 1 bar is hopping over the catching point at any 1 time, while the other 2 wheels are propelling. This'l also triple the torque and the momentum. It'l also go faster because it'l generate its own rhythm automatically. Wat ya reckon?

  • WHIRLIGIG , google it use that type of mechanism to pull that up

  • what if u rigged it to lift the stationary magnet when it gets to the break.

  • bel lavoro complimenti

  • The cam idea makes sense .... probably will eventually equalize but the large mass should help last for a while. Would be cool to see one of these that takes advantage of gravity. Such that the magnet's weight would reposition themselves as they came around the top. perhaps to move away from the stator a bit quicker. or even add a small amount of power to make a high efficiency system that produces nice gain from low input. I think that is the future of such devices as opposed to perpetuity.

  • Hello, nice work with your v-gate, have you tried to make cam on the shaft between the magnets, placed right at the gate so it pushes the stator out of the gate, and to reduce friction make the cam's end out of rubber and put the stator on ballberings, add another 3-5 system's like that and you can power your house for ever :P.

  • get yourself a solenoid to push/pull that magnet at the correct point in the cycle, and you got a motor. more effecient than electromagnet cuz it only needs a short burst of juice vs a continuous applied voltage. great setup you have now. rotor and stator are both permanent magnet powered and you only provide the curcuit reset energy.

  • thanx, a lot of responce... this is great !

    i'm a busy person another wheel whit only permanent magnets and only 2 lower that can wear out is coming up,

    thats what we all want.

    if you want real free energy you have to build (try) it yourself.

    thanx...Ard.

    :)

  • @ardan37 no ... that wheel is totaly sick ...all the time and money in your wheel is a lots the only thing you are missing its a plexy glass disc in the midle of your 2 magnet disc that will lift the magnet the good way .. or a rail disc so that way the magnet dont touch nothing ... anyways your desing is amazing and its not missing much to work ..

  • @ardan37 just put a cam over the wheels to lift the magnet...hope it works

  • @lukusr And could you do that at sever places around the v-gate. The single selenoid pusher would push all the individual jump magnets at the correct point

  • Try this Idea. This is exactly what I have in mind.

  • Hi,

    wy don`t you use a crank shaft, to lift the big magnet away from the rotor? It should work...

    Regards

    sterlingsilber

  • NICE JOB!

    ont, canada!

  • Elektromagneet kun je in jouw geval het beste zelf wikkelen!!!

    Maar heb je mechanisch al geprobeerd met een wig of zo?

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