Pure VS Impure Paritys on Big Cubes

[jonlin1000]

the impure parity is edge with a f perm

[shreshrej]

what does sub-13, sub-20 mean?

is it like, less than the amount

[cheatmasterbw]

@shreshrej sub means below, so yes

(like submarine means below [sub] water [marine]

[esquimalt1]

@mbonessi77 lol yeah 3 seconds for fast 4x4 cubers is big

[TechWizard28]

Omfg thank you so much!

[Origamimaster1397]

I got the OLL parity on my 5x5 can you tell me how that's possible even though you said it's not

[XJ6XJ6]

the seccond 4x4 parity case isnt parity, if you get that, you just f*!#ed up your edge pairing!!!

[UBCSROB]

your too damn good

[alexmagrodmencube]

im a noob :D.

I last 90sec on 3x3 with beginner method and no finger tricks.

[Pembolog]

Just been suggested to watch this by Youtube and I cried a bit.

[Blackfaint]

This Video is so fucking Helpful! Thanks, now i can solve all my big cubes :)

Thank you very much! :P

<3

[otaviocappellaro]

0:07 LOL

[grubby7911]

can't you turn the impure into the pure

[mynameisdarthtater]

I can't speak on big cubes, but my ranking for 3x3 is

Noob 10:00-1:00

Beginner 1:00-40

Intermediate 40-20

Advanced sub20.

Personally I avg like 25, but I'm getting faster and I hope to be sub 20 by the end of the semester and sub 25 by the end of this weekend.

[rsnba1]

Hey fiveawesome cubers here is a suggestion for the 4x4 PLL Parity which is pretty easy to remember is:

r2 U2 r2 (u2 U2) r2 u2

I hope it helps

[RickyLam238]

Im gonna sound like a noob but im knew to cubing. whats 'sub" mean?

[samisealo]

@RickyLam238

Lol, it's used in a perpositonal sense. i.e. under. e.g. sub 30 means you solved the cube in under 30 seconds =). sub 2 and a half is either under 2.5 secs =p unlikely...or more likely under 2 and a half minutes.

Good luck cubing =).

[poemZX]

Can you get the 2 wing edges parity on a gigaminx?

[4EverTrying]

@poemZX

No.

[drumgod1997]

an easier way to do the pll parity on 4x4 is r2 U2 r2 Uu2 r2 u2. i find that when i its time do the pll parity my hands are already set up for the algorithm

[BrizarB2ST]

advanced:

2x2: sub 4

3x3: sub 15

4x4: sub 1 min 10

5x5: sub 2min

6x6: cube 3min 45

7x7: 4min 45

[4EverTrying]

Regarding the issue of pure versus impure edge flip parity algorithms,

the information given in this video is strickly true only for algorithms the world (besides me) current knows. However, there exists pure algorithms which can be done with many wide turns (in the middle, not just the first and last moves).

Also, the diagonal wing edge swap case is a parity just as much as the edge flip.

[IPwnAllAndLeaveNone]

dude 4x4- swapping 2 opposite dedges: r2 U2 r2 Uu2 r2 u2 (lower case letters are just the inner layers, big letters are the normal side (outer layer) turns, and the Uu2 is both U layers twice)

[qwertyriffic]

intermediate(kinda)

2x2: sub-10s

3x3: sub-30s

[theman777777]

Intermediate-

2x2-0:10

3x3-0:29

4x4-3:00

5x5- 4:00

6x6-7:00

7x7-12:00

[CubesOfTheWorld]

advanced:

2x2: sub-7

3x3- sub 17

4x4- sub1

5x5- sub 1:45

6x6-sub 3:10

7x7-sub-4:20

[Brizzle293]

LOSERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR...but you helped lol

[Rabidmonkey73]

2.10

3.25

4.4 min

5. 10 min

6.-

7.-

[catalpa619]

my times(beginner):

2x2: 30-45 seconds

3x3: 25-55 seconds(my record is 22s) with beginner method

4x4: 4-5 minutes

5x5: 10-12 minutes

6x6: 30-40 minutes

7x7: 60-70 minutes

pyraminx: 40seconds to 1 minute

[opoipo42]

Beginner standards (At least for me)

2x2 20-30 seconds

3x3 1-1.5 minutes

4x4 5 min

5x5 8-15 min

6x6- No idea not tried it

7x7 My actuall loser time of 30:00

Pyraminx 20-60 seconds

[DellaProductions]

Advanced Cubers:

2x2 - Sub 10 Seconds

3x3 - Sub 22 Seconds

4x4 - Sub 1:22

5x5 - Sub 2:05

6x6 - Sub 4

6x6 - Sub 7

This is just my opinion...and btw I suck at 6x6 cuz I never get to practice cuz the stupid pins wont stay in :(

[pumpkineater1212]

Intermediate: 13-37 101vv|_|7?

[nakaji1085]

2: sub4

3: sub13

4: sub55

5: sub2:30

6: sub3

7: sub4:45

[FireCuber]

nakaji1085:

lol i think nakaji comment

but no

[IPwnAllAndLeaveNone]

@FireCuber Lol thats not Nakaji

[PowBiffFtang]

0.o...

The world record for a 7x7 is 4:39, I believe.

[nakaji1085]

It's 3:smething

[ben1996123]

@PowBiffFtang

3:43

fail

[PowBiffFtang]

Ah, but that was set recently.

And whatever. I'm not even going to attempt addressing your fail claim.

[Cerb1987]

@nakaji1085

lol @ 5x5 opinion

[winsum4]

I dont think that the one 4x4 one is a parity because it was an error in edge paring same with the 5x5

[rook2222]

00:08 Bideo?

As for times to be considered advanced, I wouldn't know...

[WilliamTNguyen]

lol you put Qj tiles on your eastsheen

[FCCZJ1903]

Advanced: 2x2: sub-6 average 3x3: sub-20 average 4x4: sub-1:30 average 5x5: sub-2:30 average 6x6: sub-4:30 average 7x7: sub-6:30 average Expert: 2x2: sub-4 3x3: sub-14 4x4: sub-55 5x5: sub-1:30 6x6: sub-3:30 7x7: sub 5:30

[Hippievwbus94]

du weißt natürlich alles... lol :D

[FCCZJ1903]

na klar :P

du stalker! XD

[Jakegouldon]

I would say that your bigcube estimates are way off. For instance, I was sub-1 on 4x4 before I was sub-20. I say: Advanced: 2; sub3 3: sub17 4: sub1 5: sub2 6: sub3:30 7: sub5:20 Expert: 2: sub3 3: sub11 4: sub50 5: sub1:30 6: sub3 7: sub4:30

[FCCZJ1903]

really??

I had my first 4x4 sub-1 (51.66) when I averaged 15 seconds xD

[Jakegouldon]

Yes, but I used to practice bigcubes more than 3x3.

[Jakegouldon]

oh and I screwed up my advanced rating for 2x2, should be sub-5

[mitchblahman]

the last 4x4 one is definitely not a parity

its a miss on edge paring

[computerdl]

a better pll parity is r2 U2 r2 Uu2 r2 u2

[rubiknerd11]

omg thanks this is soooo much easier

[TimesNuRoman]

that 7x7 looks like its gonna fall apart

[nuriacarlos]

what is the level for 3x3x3

[Marwin33333333333]

your 6x6s are so cool!

[vgbjason]

thanks monkeydude i got a rubik's 4x4 the other day, mad my own method but didn't know how to solve that one parity case you weren't sure was a parity case or not. took me forever to find somewhere with an algorithm for it :)

[TheCubecracker]

cant the rubiks UFO have parity?

[grits2hot]

cant the 4x4 have the winged parity? when eveything is solved except 2 winged pieces that are switched?

[origami1325]

that IS the oll parity

[wolficeflame]

I suck 2 min to 1 in a half min

[deshdude1754]

I would say its a combo of your knowledge of the cube (its mechanism, construction/deconstruction, solving methods) and your speed solving abilities. I would consider Tony Fisher an advanced 3x3x3 cuber because he has made so many variations of it, and created his own solving method, but his times are around 50-55. Only realistic way I think there is to rate a skill level as advanced/intermediate/beginner is to analyze your own abilities and general familiarity with the cube/3-d puzzle.

[peterpanlid7]

3x3x3 cube

Beginner: 45 sec or more

Intermediate: 44-23 sec

Advanced: 22-17

Pro: 16 and under

[soeprman369]

omg im still beginner

i use

f2l

2look oll

2look pll

OMG

average about 55 sec (its sucks, but im getting my diy :D)

[Ashmnafa]

nah, speed doesn't matter. the fact that you know f2l and 2look makes you intermediate to me. i am about the same, but i almost know full PLL, and I average around 35 seconds. so don't worry about it

[rubiknerd11]

i use f2l, 2 look oll, 2 look pll and am in the process of learning 1 look but i average around 30 seconds

[musli4brekkies]

I know how you feel. I seem to be improving very, very slowly.

[zeth525]

my avarege is 37

[waShbaK]

cool fag

[MortenArborg]

Inpure Algorithm:

Rw U2 x Rw U2 Rw U2 R'w U2 Lw U2 R'w U2 Rw U2 R'w U2 R'w I'm not sure if that was what you did, but I think it's really fast.

I think Lance has the best way for separating the skill levels.

If you want good parity algorithms, go to Cutex(dot)info.

[Arycke]

Definitely :) that's where I learned all my algorithms from :) (Cutex that is :P )

[ham10444]

i average 40 sec, i know all 21 pll and all the 2 look OLL's and im a beginner?? thats fucked up

[xdragonx35]

yes,

NO FUKING F2L??

[batgutt]

How can you be that slow knowing all those algorithms?

[ham10444]

becuase im an epic fail at F2L

[batgutt]

wow, why don't u just use begginers f2l?

[Mindstormscreator]

ypu never described the 4x4 thing that you didnt know if it was a parity you know the one where 2 opposite-ish wing edges are switched

[niklausio422]

i'd be in intermediate but i think that 13-37 is too big of a range of seconds.

[andyhthedrummer]

can you help me out i dont really understand all these parity algs for 4x4-7x7 i only learned 2 parity casesd that i need

[mrthecuber]

personally, i think that time doesnt matter for skill level

i think it should be your method

ex: beginner method= beginner level

intuitive f2l and 2 look oll/pll= intermediate

full f2l,oll,pll= advanced

remember that there are so many people who cant solve so even 2minute+ solves are good

[CuBeOrDiE]

@mrthecuber It's called SPEEDcubing. Notice the SPEED part.

[IPwnAllAndLeaveNone]

@CuBeOrDiE Actually, it means the attempt to get faster

So a speed cuber may be someone starting to learn the Keyhole method, or someone learning COLL after they reach sub-10.

[CuBeOrDiE]

@IPwnAllAndLeaveNone that's sort of what I meant. mr the cuber said only the method mattered...

[DracoMhuuh]

@mrthecuber Happy me XD I'm averaging 2:00 min solve on 3x3 XD I consider myself beginner intermediate since I do intuitive F2L and I stick to the beginners method for LL ( too lazy for all those algos)

[michaelfivez]

@mrthecuber idk, 2 minute is not really intermediate no matter what method. How long does it take to reach 2 minutes, like 5-10 solves or 2 hours counting the time to learn 3x3 too. Even if it takes you a week or even a month.

You're not intermediate after 1 month of playing soccer either.

I think you can be considered intermediate after you learn a full method (like f2l+full oll/pll) and have been cubing for 1-2 years and average 15-20 seconds or so.

[JustSolveIt]

i know a faster way for 1:st parity case it only takes 6 moves ;D supafast xP

[mb1329]

The OLL parity on the 4x4 is the same as the wing edge parity on the 5x5. the only difference is that he center edge piece on the 5x5 cannot be flipped just as the edge pieces on a 3x3 can't be flipped without actually taking apart the cube. I use the same algorithm for the oll and wing edge parity, of course adapting the notation to fit the 5x5.

[Tortak39]

They can but its impossible to flip ONE edge yo need to flip 2 :)

[rubikscuber927]

Isn't this for blog vids? Aren't tutorials on your main channel?

[masonmeizer]

4x4 OLL Parity:

r2 B2 U2 l U2 r' U2 r U2 F2 r F2 l' B2 r2

how did u memorize this one

[RandomNewb]

anything involving memorization of sequences can be done many ways, the best way is what is comfortable with you

but... this is how i do it

i look at the algorithm while i have the cube in my hand and i apply it... i apply it several times to get my hands used to it.

then i break up the algorithm into parts/sections so that i can do these groups in a single "movement".

for me, raw application over and over again doesn't help me, you have to be active in your practice

[masonmeizer]

can u make some more videos or your regular channel

[Aaalxndr]

2x2 sub 10

3x3 mid/high 20's (eg. 26)

4x4 sub 2min

5x5 sub 3min

6x6 sub 4min

7x7 idk haha

[GyrosagaProductions]

I think for Beg, Int, and Adv (respectively),

2x2: >30, 10-30, sub-10

3x3: >1:30, 30-1:30, sub-30

4x4: >3:00, 1:30-3:00, sub-1:30

5x5: >4:00, 2:00-4:00, sub-2:00

6x6: >7:00, 4:30-7:00, sub-4:30

7x7: >10:00, 6:00-10:00, sub-6:00

Thanks for vlogging once again and bringing intuitiveness to the face of YouTube.

--Ranzha V. Emodrach, Castrensis Discipulus of Vulgivagus Professor of Telum Surculus ex Kevelhë from Gyrosaga Productions

[xxetfownsxx]

on the 6x6 and 7x7 do you have white cube brights?

[winsum4]

florecent

[Pwagismyname]

mdude1313@

you got that idea from me!

"what are your standards for speed"

[lumanderthon]

i know a much simpler parity algorithm for pll parity: 2r, 2U, 2r, 2U*, 2r, 2u. I may be mistaken but i dont think thats the one he used.

[xxfrankjiangxx]

Thanks!

Very nice tutorial! I was having trouble with that! :).

[togaman10]

2x2 sub 8

3x3 sub 30

4x4 sub 1:30

5x5 sub 2:30

6x6 sub 5:00

7x7 sub 7:15

[RampageCuber]

Advanced

2x2 Sub-6

3x3 Sub-15

4x4 Sub 1:30

5x5 Sub 2:30

6x6 Sub 4:30

7x7 Sub 6:30

[CubeTalk]

on the last 444 parity, if you do an edge swap algorithm, it goes to the OLL parity that flips one edge pair

[MaNOODLEcube]

best fiveawesomecubers vid so far. thank you monkeydude1313

[JasonJRY]

advanced is (for avg)

sub5 for 2x2

sub15 for 3x3

sub1:15 for 4x4

sub3:00 for 5x5

[TheMachanga]

advanced

2x2 sub 6

3x3 9-20 seconds

4x4 40-1:20

5x5 1:10-1:40

6x6 2:20 - 4:30

7x7 3:58 - 5:50

Thats my opinion

[somethingcool00]

2x2 sub-6

3x3 sub-17

4x4 sub- 1:05

5x5 sub- 1:50

6x6 sub 3:30

7x7 sub 4:50

[jcuber8]

2x2 sub 8

3x3 sub 15

4x4 sub 1:10

5x5 sub 1:40

6x6 sub 3:00

7x7 sub 4:40

thats my opinion n e way

[DanitoDaDorito]

Wow, very professional!

[AyzhunPersuasion]

3x3

beginner 40secs-2minute

intermediate-20-30

advanced 15-25

expert- sub 14

[cardologist]

Eh, except for "PLL" parity, the rest of the parities are just the same. (They are the same as the OLL parity)

Also.. PLL parity isn't "technically" parity :P

[JellyfishPie00]

yea

[Ojochris1]

Hmmm....

2 x 2 uncer 10

3 x 3 under 45

4 x 4 under 1:30

5 x 5 under 3:00

6 x 6 under 4:00 (never solved one before, so I might be COMPLETELY off time here.)

7 x 7 under 6:00 (again, never solved one.)

[BeasltyFry]

Lets see...

2x2 sub 8

3x3 sub 20

4x4 sub 1:10

5x5 sub 2:40

6x6 not sure but maybe hight 3minutes

7x7 still not sure cuz i dont have them...prob low 5minutes

theres my thoughts on advanced cubers

[xBoChenx]

wtf up is with your eyes monkeydude

[monkeydude1313]

My eyes are my eyes. Nothing is 'up' with them.

[newmarsvolta]

I have a feeling that that last 4x4 parity case isnt one, you just have to solve that during edge pairing.

[thegreatMrx]

yep i think

[asleep05753]

However, if you pair those up during edge pairing, you end up with oll parity. (If you look at the K4 method, then you would understand better.)

[newmarsvolta]

That makes sense. Thanks.

[esquimalt1]

You are 100% correct asleep05753.

[lordskull14]

it isn't a parity case. However it can be run into during solving if you use the K4 method... and then you use a commutator to solve it or turn it into a parity case and solve that quickly..

[esquimalt1]

That is a parity case what he showed in the video. And commutators don't fix parity.

[asleep05753]

But it is parity, just a parity that you run into on a K4 solve, just believe me on this. I used K4 for big cubes around this time last year because I didn't want to memorize the OLL parity but when I couldn't use commutators to fix it, I changed back to reduction and memorized the OLL parity.

[qd11856]

it was july 14th when this vid was released at my timezone hah!

[LtUnreal]

how would you go into a T perm after the pure form of OLL parity? normally people do OLL after OLL parity.

[fiveawesomecubers]

It was just an example, showing that while doing the alg you can be looking ahead to the next step.

[tirekerist]

i dont even kno wat sub is

[livetobox226]

under a certain time... for example sub 2:00 is under 2 minutes

[chemical96]

Noobish Question... but here it goes does parity happen on a 2x2?

[JaydenMcH]

nope

[Vykerie]

Yes the corner parity

[bafeli]

No. only on the 3x3 and up. When there is an edge flipped during F2L on the 3x3, it's called parity.

[btkw]

erm... no?

[DanieLDude1554]

good video but the lighting is very bad at times. it's hard to see which color is which because of darkness/shadows.

[PotatoSpades22095]

3x3 i see alot of people at comps get around 20s, and sub20 is concidered pretty good

[imataco95]

one Minute + beginner

45 sub intermediate

20 sub expert

[christianzzz09]

40 + = beginner

30 + = intermediate

20+ = advanced

10+ = expert

My opinion ... but i just average 26 seconds soooo ... that might just influence me :P

[Malasamalamasan]

i have the same opinion and a 24 seconds average :D

with 8 months of cubing i cant be a beginner or something

[LanceTheBlueKnight]

For 3x3: Farkin' Goomba, 2 minutes or more. Early Beginner, Sub 2 Beginner, Sub 1 Late Beginner, Sub 50 Early Intermediate, Sub 40 Intermediate, Sub 35 Late Intermediate, Sub 30 Early Advanced, Sub 22 Advanced, Sub 18 Late Advanced, Sub 15 World Class, Sub 12 To break it into just Beginnner, Intermediate, Advanced is absurd considering how big the range is. Calling  21 second average and a 40 second average the same level of skill is kind of silly in my opinion.

[imataco95]

Cool

[bradslvrdude]

"For the big cubes, 4x4 through 6x6"

*Points at 7x7*

That made me crack up XP

But anyway very nice video.

What you should have done is, gone in while editing, and recorded your voice saying 7x7, and edited it in there, but made the pitch lower so u sound like a demon.

That would have been hilarious XP

[Profilesrubiks]

i think it should be like this :

1min - 35 seconds = begginer

30 - 20 = intermediate

sub 15 = expert

[theWestonian]

what ive heard from stefan huber is

20+ - beginner

sub 20= intermediate

sub 15 = advanced

sub 13 = expert

the sub 13 part is just my interpretation thoguh

[Sa967St]

here's a nice OLL parity for big cubes:

Rw U2 Rw U2 Rw' U2 Rw U2 Lw' U2 Rw U2 Rw' U2 x Rw' U2 Rw' (U2 M' U2)

[Sa967St]

oops, x should be x'

[Nukoca]

Too late, lol. I messed up my cube.

[XTheAndyX]

everyone who says first or second or ranks their comment is stupid.