Why ahmadis are not correcting their faith why they insisting on false prophet claim before 100 years which is created by the British gov to break ummah unity. The punishment of Ahmad raza khan sin why the innocent ahmadi Muslims taking why don't they ask their scholar to correct their kalima and faith and joint to the main stream Islam who are Ahmad raza khan given permission to make halal jihad as haramAll the world scholar or mulvis are not fool to declare ahamdis as kafir
@dpremi1126: You r totally misinformed. These r ONLY Ahmadis who have corrected the beliefs through Allah's appointed Messiah at the time when situation of Islam was as per following Hadith.
"A time will come when NOTHING will remain of ISLAM except its name and NOTHING will remain of the Quran except its inscription. Their mosques will be full but void of guidance. Their Mullahs will b WORST CREATURES under the sky; all the evil will be emerged from them and will revert to them” Mushkat
@dpremi1126 : You r grossly misinformed. These r Mullahs belonging to 72 sects who r Killing Ahmadis while they were offering Jummah prayers. These r Mullahs belonging to 72 sects who r erasing & defacing Kalima لا اله الا الله محمد رسول اللہ from Ahmadiyya mosques & houses. PROOF {watch?v=XynKJMo9MIE}
Dear, the name of founder of Ahmadiyya movement in Islam was not Ahmad Raza. Rather his name was Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as).
@dpremi1126 : You said that "All the world scholar or mulvis are not fool to declare ahamdis as kafir". Do you know that our beloved Prophet (saw) had foretold 1,400 years ago that ALL THE 73 SECTS ARE GOING TO BECOME HELL-BOUND EXCPT ONLY ONE? You are right that all the Mullahs belonging to all the 72 sects are separating us as non-Muslim. But on the other hand the VERDICT of Prophet (saw) was OPPOSITE - declaring 72 as Hell BOUND & ONLY ONE as Muslim.
@dawah2 you are not even a sect of islam. what are you talking about. first be muslim and then you will be able to join some sect. you are following a false prophet. that makes you nonmuslim. and who are you to declare which sect is going to hell and which is going to heaven. who the hell are you
@faziljaved : You are right that I am NOT the part of 72 sects of Islam who are MUSLIM in your sight. Rather I belong to that 73 sect which is different from all of you 72 sects. BUT remember that the VERDICT of our Beloved Prophet (saw) is that the ONLY ONE (Different from the REST OF 72) will be on the Right path.
@dawah2 you repeat that again. i did not know that you were the authority to declare and differentiate between the sects. our prophet talked about the sects of islam not of non muslims. you are nonmuslims according to all the ullamas. and also count me the 72 sects. what are these sects. please tell me. give me a list. if you cannot then your whole point is useless. your prophet claims to be Eesa, and i have not seen an indian Eesa in my life never heard of him
@faziljaved : The 72 deviants sects definately was to think of the 73rd rightly guided Jamah as non-Muslim because of their differences. Secondly, Prophet (saw) had himself mentioned the signs of the ONLY ONE rightly guided one by giving its resemblance with himself & his sahaba. Watch in this documentary the documentary evidences of Islam-Ahmadiyya with Prophet (saw) & his sahabas. I challenge u to try to refute these evidences of similarities.
@faziljaved: Which Ullamas you are talking about man ? Those Ullamas who have been declared WORST CREATURE on the earth by our Holy Prophet Muhammad (SAW) ? The WORST CREATURE will declare someone NON-MUSLIMS and you will follow them ?? means you will follow WORST CREATURE ? ok go ahead... and one thing more about 73rd Sect.. Sahaba asked Hazrat Muhammad SAW that what are the signs for those people. Huzoor SAW said . they will face the situations same like us. un k halaat maray jaise honge.
@faziljaved: aur hamare Halaat kya waise nahi hain Jaisay NABI Pak SAW k thay? Sub Ulama mil k humain ghair muslim qarar nahin dete jaisay Hazrat Muhammad (SAW) ko sab sardar mil k Jhoota (Nauzubillah) kehte thay? kya humain hamare mulk se hijrat pe majboor nahin kiya gya? kya humain kamzor samaj k mara nai jata k apne aqeeday se phir jayen? kya Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmed ko nihayat shareef aur sacha muslim nahi kaha gya jab tak unhon ne Imam Mehdi honay ka dawa nai kiya (this video shows truth)?
KUzZ911: Watch how similar are arguments of Jews who have also rejected their Messiah {watch?v=HbMO_zWp_lo}
Remember that Quran tells us that usually Allah tells his Loved Ones about future events through Dreams/Visions & that all such visions are Always fulfilled in metaphoric way & NOT in Literal way.
KUzZ911: Alhamdo-Lillah we are Muslim. We believe in each & every word of Quran & those Hadith which have their roots in Quran. Mahdi & Messiah has come. But like all other previous divinely guided reformers majority has rejected him.
Certainly, every divinely guided reformer came to unite the people BUT ONLY THOSE BENEFITED from them who accept them.
Muhammad (saw) came as Blessings for Entire humanity BUT ONLY those benefited from him who accepted him.
abz3751678: "And even if We send down unto them angels, and the dead speak to them, and We gather to them all things face to face, they would not believe, unless Allah enforced His will. But most of them behave ignorantly" Al-Quran 6:111
Then where is Jesus? Because Jesus was suppose to come after Mahdi (Quran Hadith) to kill the Dajjal? Why have you skipped that bit for? Most of the Muslims were suppose to reconise Mahdi! You are talking about the Fake Mahdi!
1) Prophet (saw) said that "There will be NO MAHDI EXCEPT ISSA/JESUS" {Ibn-e-Majja}. In another Hadith Prophet (saw) further clarified that the Issa/Jesus to come in ummah will be from the ummah by saying "Soon u will meet Issa/Jesus as IMAM MAHDI"
2) Is it NOT true that Prophet (saw) warned that "Muslims r going to repeat the mistakes of Jews"? {Tirmadhi}. Did Jews NOT rejected their Messiah based on taking the Prophecies too literally?
@xiaahmad1 : Concept of Issa 2 b born in ummah is not only in accordance with established laws of nature but is also in line with sunnat of Allah as found in religious history. Jews were also waiting for Elijah (an old Prophet) to return physically FLYING DOWN from heaven. But it was Jesus who explained that once gone from the world people Never Return rather others come under their name/title.
Whereas Human Flying Down from sky is just FOOLISH idea which is totally against the laws of nature
StudentofKnowledge99 : Brother, we MUST pray to Allah that He enable all of us to follow that path which is Right in His knowledge. Because ONLY Allah knows best & NOT Mullah.
The Qadianis believe that Allaah fasts, prays, sleeps, wakes up, writes, makes mistakes and has intercourse exalted be Allaah far above all that they say.
AfghDude: When Mullah's couldn't refute Ahmadiyya Logical & Rational arguments based on Quran & laws of nature then they start abusing & start attributing totally False & baseless blasphemous things towards Islam-Ahmadiyya.
We Never even though of blasphemous thing like INTERCOURSE with Allah (Astaghfarullah). Such allegations r ONLY creation of filthy minds of Mullahs.
However, Allah becoming hungry, thirsty etc. is also mentioned in ahadith which r metaphoric expressions.
AfghDude: Dear brother, you are not mocking at us Rather you are mocking at Prophet (saw) who said that "Out of 73 ONLY ONE will be on the Right Path".
We all Muslims should fear Allaha! But you are Totally Brainwashed by believing Mahdi has come! You should fear Allaha before you say it! You are not accepted as Muslims even tho if you say it. Inshallaha when Mahdi will come then & then you will realise, if its the right time!
@KUzZ911 : Dear, the one who was to come has already come. Now its upto every individual either to listen to him & ask Allah for enabling him/her to take right decision or to listen the LIAR Anti-Ahmadiyya Mullahs about whom Prophet (saw) had foretold 1,400 years ago that "THEY WILL BE WORST CREATURES ON EARTH".
However, remember that Jews also rejected (& still rejecting) Jesus as their Messiah based on exactly similar arguments as u r doing. Proof {watch?v=HbMO_zWp_lo}
@dawah2 If he is the true Mahdi, then why does only a very tiny fraction of Islam recognize him? He must not have done his job correctly or he must have been a horrible 'Mahdi'. Ahmadiyya is just another cult. Just like the hundreds of other cults before and after it. Mirza Ghulam Ahmad is just one of thousands of people who claim to be 'Mahdi' or Prophets.
@alhass2002kno : If Jesus (as) was the True Messiah for Jews then ONLY a very TINY fraction of Jews accepted him? Watch the Jews raising exactly similar objections against their Messiah as today people are raising against the Messiah in Islam {watch?v=HbMO_zWp_lo}
Ahmadiyya Movement in Islam has spread in 190 countries of the world. No one can show any match of Islam Ahmadiyya with any similar movement in Islam.
@TheSaffyone :Jews also do not believe that their Messiah has come. They also reject Jesus (as) as their Messiah. And the reasons why they do so are EXACTLY similar to those on the basis of which you don't believe that Messiah in Islam has come. PROOF {watch?v=HbMO_zWp_lo}
Just watch {watch?v=HbMO_zWp_lo} & let me know that IF THERE IS ANY DIFFERENCE in the approach, LOGIC & arguments of Jews Rejecting Jesus & people rejecting Messiah in Islam? OK Don't tell me JUST ASK your own conscience!
@muhammadtaj2554 : Anti-Islamic site says that same about Quran. Actually Quran tells us that "Allah NEVER send a Prophet whom people not mock at".
Br. These are we (Ahmadi Muslims) who are facing severe persecution for لا اله الا الله محمد رسول اللہ. Watch who are erasing this لا اله الا الله محمد رسول اللہ & who are facing persecution for this
{watch?v=XynKJMo9MIE}
R u inviting to this brand of Islam? {watch?v=x8TJTG4yUSQ}
If u have some conscious,you will know that whatever u hv been doing with Ahmadis in Pakistan is completely inhuman and barbaric.You ppl are Godless people who hav no fear of the day of judgement.Just like empty vesseles who cry big about Islam but inside their heart and minds are Athiests.U pretend to b Muslims but as a matter of fact u r facist & Nazis who r ruthless 2 the minorities &intolerant, Unlike our beloved Mohammad(saw).If u had accepted 1% of the real Islam u wouldve learn from us
djamaluddin: False doctrines in the name of Islam have to be condemned - NO matter if one has to condemn 2.5 Billion people for this.
Did Prophet (saw) NOT condemned entire humanity on earth on his coming? Does it mean that IF billions are following False-hood then one must keep silent?
As'kum. Why Holy Prophet (SAW) warned us about dajjal? And why He (SAW) said , Surah Al-Kahfi (1-10 and last) link to dajjal?
I took some studied, that I believe dajjal link to the group of people that believed God has a son....to find out more please refer to Surah Al- Kahfi.
IQ233: Brother, these so-called Muslims belonging to 72 sects are of so high character that they use such filthy and abusive language that cannot be allowed to appear directly. Thus, I have to first read the comments & allow them. This takes time. Otherwise. NO comment - no matter how harsh it may be is deleted. Only abusive & filthy comments are NOT allowed.
IQ233: Brother, I am NOT fooled by the media Rather it seems that you are being FOOLED by the Mullahs belonging of 72 hell-bound sects. Is it not that Prophet (saw) has termed the Mullahs of our age as "The Worst Creatures on Earth"?
We believe Hadhrat Ahmad (as) to be Imam Mahdi & Promised Messiah whose advent was prophecized by Prophet Muhammad (saw).
Can you show me any claim by Elijah Muhammad to be a Prophet or appointed one by Allah which had been published in his lifetime?
IQ233 : Watch Jews also saying exactly similar things about their Messiah Jesus at watch?v=HbMO_zWp_lo . Promised Messiah (as) has killed the Dajjal by proving from Bible & History that false Lord of Christians did not die on the cross rather he survived & later buried in Kashmir. Whereas Mullahs are supporting Dajjal by saying that False lord of Christians is still bodily living whereas our beloved Prophet (saw) had died & buried on earth.
IQ233: Remember, the Prophet (saw) said that "Things are going to happen to my ummah exactly the way it happened to Israelite". Now first tell me that if 72 sects of Jews united by merely coming of Jesus (as) as their Messiah? Certainly not. But they gradually united by believing in one Messiah. Thus Jews started gradually shrinking while believers in Jesus (as) started gradually expanding. Same was to happen as per Prophet's verdict & same is actually happening.
Holy Prophet (saw) said "Surely things will happen to my people as happened earlier to Israelite, so much so that they will resemble each other like one shoe in a pair resembles the other...Verily the Israelite were divided into 72 sections but my people will be divided into 73 sections, all of them will be in the fire except one...." Trimizi, Kitabul Eeman
I agree with that Hadith. in fact Ahmadiyya is a perfect example of a sect.
After Muhammad (PBUH) died, we have become more divided. Don't act like division only rose after Hadhrat was born. The Prophet (PBUH) warned us about false prophets like Hadhrat and Elijah. and there will be more false prophets after this, no doubt.
IQ233: ONLY Islam-Ahmadiyya is the Jamat formed by Allah through His appointed Mahdi & Messiah. Whereas all other sects are created by Mullah. The Prophet (saw) had said that ONLY ONE will be on Right Path while all others will be on Wrong path. Allah had compelled the Mullahs belonging to 72 sects to unanimously separate ONE from the rest of 72 by their own hands thus fulfilling the Hadith.
lessirey : As indicated in Quran (Surah Takweer etc) & explained in ahadith all the signs of later days when Mahdi & Messiah was to come have been fulfilled.
As shown in this documentary that even top order Non-ahmadi Scholars admit that all such signs have been fulfilled.
Watch this documentary with fear f Allah & things will Insha-Allah will be cleared to you.
lessirey: Quran confirms that Allah usually tells His loved ones about future events through visions/dreams & that such visions r fulfilled in metaphoric manner & not literally. The essence of Prophet-hood is SPIRITUAL Kingdom & not worldly kingdom. This is the reason that Previous Messiah also didn't has worldly kingdom despite exactly similar prophecies.
Is it NOT true that Jews also rejected/rejecting Jesus based on EXACTLY similar arguments?
lessirey: I agree that everything can't b taken as metaphoric - similarly u have 2 agree that everything can't b taken as literal either. Is it NOT true that Jews rejected Jesus as their Messiah because quite a few of their Prophecies doesn't fulfilled literally? Is it NOT True that Prophet Muhammad (saw) warned that Muslims r going exactly follow the footsteps of Jews?
Is it NOT true that today 72 sects of Muslims r rejecting their Messiah based on EXACTLY similar arguments as Jews r doing?
lessirey: Although some Hadith speaks of Jesus & Mahdi as two personalities BUT there are aso Ahadith which Explicitly says that "There will be No Mahdi EXCEPT Issa/Jesus" {Ibn-e-Majjah}. In another Hadith the Prophet (saw) clarified that the Jesus & Mahdi will be one & the same person by mentioning that "Soon you will meet Isa/Jesus as IMAM MAHDI" {Musnad-e-Ahmad}
Is it not true that as per Quran Jews also use 2 present some verses while use to hide others like the today's Mullahs?
Dear, these r our opponents (Mullahs belonging to 72 sects) who accept some Ahadith while reject the others. We do not reject any saying of Prophet Muhammad (saw) - rather we reconcile various sayings in such a way that they NOT only reconcile with each other BUT also become explanation of some verses of Quran.
In Al-Quran 4:69 Allah clearly says that after coming of Muhammad (saw) 2 attain any spiritual rank 1 MUST b follower of Muhammad (saw). Thus a Messiah from outside can't come!
lessirey: I proved u that we do not pick & choose Ahadith which suits us rather we interpret them in a way that all of them points one & the same thing.
Those who could not reconcile Ahadith due to their pick & choose habit like the Jews have invented a phenomenon of "Science of accepting & rejecting Ahadith"
Remember all those who reject Prophets have similar arguments as Mullahs of our age.
If you don't really don't fall into 72 sects then u have to accept the 73rd Jamah of Mahdi
AfghDude : Remember that the same Prophet (saw) also said that "There will be NO prophet between me & Issa & soon you will meet him".
Remember that the same Prophet (saw) said that "72 out of 73 sects will be Hell-Bound". Today Mullahs belonging to 72 sects say that ONLY One i.,e Ahmadiyya are non-Muslim while all other 72 sects are Muslims while Prophet's (saw) VERDICT is totally opposite. Now it is up to you either to either follow Mullah or the Prophet of Allah !
AfghDude: I have accepted Islam-Ahmadiyya after thorough research & extensive prayers to Allah. how can Allah misguide a person who does a sincere & unbiased research supported by extensive prayers?
Brainwashed are those who have never bothered to search for truth supported by sincere prayers to Allah - rather are following the faith of their forefathers JUST Blindly.
It's a test!! All the evidence is here but still you wont accept Prophet Muhammed(saw) is his last Messenger. Allah is eternal hes depends on nothing!! NO FOOD OR WATER! Qul: Wallaho ahad Allahoe samad Lam yelid walam youlad Walam yakulahoe koefoewan ahad Or do you not follow the Quran? Pray more to Allah. All the prove is there but ur just a hypocrit. And not a muslim.
AfghDude: we do believe that Muhammad (saw) is the Last & Final Prophet. we also believe that Hadhrat Ahmad (as) of Qadian was the same Messiah & Mahdi who was to come as SUBORDINATE PROPHET - as per Quran & ahadith.
And Eesa ibn Maryam (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) will come down and their leader will say to him: Come and lead us in prayer. But he will say: No, one of them should lead the others in prayer, as a sign of honour from Allaah to this ummah. Narrated by Muslim, 225.
it clearly says both are separate individuals, if you say its metaphoric, then what does it mean in your version ?
Don't forget that same book of Hadith i.e MUSLIM also says "Certainly, the time of prayer shall come and then Jesus (pbuh) would descend & would lead them in prayer" {Muslim Book 41# 6924}. So, why to accept one Hadith of Muslim while reject the other?
Actually, these 2 Ahadith about the 1 to come under Titles of Jesus/Mahdi when considered collectively clearly shows that Jesus/Mahdi r two titles of the one 2 come was 2 b leader of Muslim but at the same time a follower of Muhammad
If you read both the Ahadith of Muslim in entirety then you will realize that both r speaking the even of JUST on the descent of Jesus (as). This is the reason that non-Ahmadi Mullahs reject one of them.
Please watch {watch?v=HbMO_zWp_lo} & you will realize that Jews rejected/rejecting Jesus (as) as their Messiah based on exactly similar arguments as Mullahs of 72 sects r doing in the case of claimant of Messiah in Islam.
Watch it & ask yourself that if Prophet (saw) not warned about it?
AfghDude: Alhamdo-Lillah I am a converted Ahmadi-Muslims. You are right that 72 sects of Muslims consider us not part of them. But remember that Ptophet (saw) had gave very clear verdict that "At the time of Split 72 out of 73 sects will be hell-bound". Thus it is Allah who have separated & distinguished us from the Hell-Bound 72 at the hands of 72. Allah-ho-Akbar!!
Surah 6:159 As for those who divide their religion and break up into sects, thou hast no part in them in the least: their affair is with Allah: He will in the end tell them the truth of all that they did.
Surah 30:32 (Do not fall in idol worship,) like Those who split up their Religion, and become (mere) Sects,- each party rejoicing in that which is with itself!
Sphinxak: " O children of Adam! if Messengers come to you from among yourselves, rehearsing My Signs unto you, then whoso shall fear God and do good deeds, on them shall come no fear nor shall they grieve. But those who reject Our Signs and turn away from them with disdain, these shall be the inmates of the Fire; they shall abide therein. Al-Quran 7:35-36
Yes it is prohibited for human to make sects BUT remember that once sects made then Allah form a group of guided people.
Brother do not accept what some fanatical Mulahs are doing to represent the whole Muslim nation in the world. But remember the hadith of the prophet PBUH. If you see a wrong being done you should first try to correct it with your hand (action), if you cant then by your words even if you cant do that then by your heart but that is the very least. It is not just about changing peoples religion by force. As Muslims we should be united in fighting injustice.
aldinzilic: It is not a matter of few Mullahs. Rather, Ahmadi-Muslims are legally prohibited to act upon Islam - i.e To recite quran, offer 5 times prayers to call their faith as Islam etc. Ahmadi-Muslims are persecuted for reciting Shahadah & for offering prayers by the Mullahs belonging to all the 72 sects. Even Govt. of Pakistan is now persecuting Ahmadi-Muslims.
Can you show even a single non-Muslim countries where people legally prohibited & are persecuted for reading Quran etc.?
Even though I don't agree with your views. I don't think you should be prosecuted. But brother Muslims in countries like Albania, Chechniya, Russia amongst some others were prohibited from openly being a Muslim. No one is going to come to your house to stop you reading Quran or practising Islam. I do believe you are one of the sects prophet warned us about but it is not for me to judge you. Allah SWT will judge us all in the end to you is your religion and to me is mine.
aldinzilic: THERE IS NO COUNTRY IN THE WORLD WHICH HAVE LAWS TO PROHIBIT PEOPLE TO READ QURAN OR TO OFFER 5 TIMES DAILY PRAYERS EXCEPT "ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF PAKISTAN" where Ahmad-Muslims are prohibited to do so according to country's Laws & constitution.
There is NO compulsion in Religion. We believe that Mahdi & Messiah has come if you wish to disagree then you has the right to do so. We can only request to conclude after watching the other side of the picture supported by sincere prayers.
No one prohibits you from reading Quran and doing your prayers in your home. If you cannot do that, my advice would be to move to a place where you can practice your religion i.e UK, US I know that it can be very difficult but many Muslims move from their countries because they had difficulty practising their religion. The prophet PBUH migrated in order to be able to practise Islam.
aldinzilic: Brother, I can give you too many evidences that hundreds of Ahmadi-Muslims are persecuted for Reading quran, Offering 5 times prayers i.e. the same situation through which the Prophet (saw) & his initial companions were once passed.
aldinzilic: Is it not that previous Messiah & his companions also did not fight any war? Was Messiah NOT the prince of Peace? Is it not true that the main reason of unrest in the world today is religious extremism of Mullahs? Did prophet (saw) not foretold that a time will come when all the evil (blood-shed) will be emerged from the mosques & will revert to them? Was a Messiah to come among Muslims as well. Was the Messiah not to cease religious wars (Bukhari)?
Our last beloved prophet was the role model to us all and he did marry, rule and fight when necessary, Yes when Jesus PBUH descends and is with us all the wars will stop and there will be tranquility in the world. This is another reason why Mirza Ghulam Ahmed was NOT the Messiah as there were wars when he was alive and there are wars now, there was no tranquility in the world which goes against the prophecy.
Brother, watch this video {watch?v=HbMO_zWp_lo}. Amazingly Jews are also shown EXACTLY saying the same i.e How Jesus (as) could be Messiah because when Messiah was to come then there was NO more war. This proves that Messiah was to forbid fighting among his followers (As Jesus did) while the remaining people would have continued to fight & Kill each other. Same was to happen with Messiah in Islam. But Prophet (saw) also foretold that Muslims r to repeat SAME MISTAKES AS JEWS DID/doing
The difference between Muslims and Jews is that we believe that Jesus will rule the world. He will be a "Just Ruler" (Abu Hurayrah) "he will demolish the crucifix, slay the pig, abolish the jizya and the other religions will vanish giving place to Islam alone". (Abu Hurairah) Therefore there will be Muslims only, Probably you would understand that in methoporical sense. I like most Muslims believe that in physical sense because it says Allah will destroy false Messiahs (sects) during his reign
aldinzilic : As far as behavior, approach and beliefs are concerned today Muslims are exactly following footsteps of Jews as far as rejection of two Messiahs are concerned. For proof watch {watch?v=HbMO_zWp_lo}. And it was to happen - if Prophet (saw) had said Truth. In this video you will watch that Jews are also taking prophecies too literally & saying that Jesus (as) cannot be True Messiah because a) An old Prophet Elijah did not return b) Jesus was not ruled as said in prophecies etc.
aldinzilic : Brother, there is NO difference in the reasons due to which Jews rejected Jesus (as) as their Messiah & the reasons due to which Muslims r rejecting Hadhrat Ahmad as their Messiah. Actually, both r rejecting their Messiahs because both of them r taking the prophecies too literally. Based on literal understanding of prophecies both are excepting their Messiah to rule the world. Both are expecting that with Messiah there should have been only one religion on earth.
I have seen the video. The video is interesting I can see the resemblance Between Muslims. But As Muslims we have the guidance and path to follow from our Prophet Muhammad PBUH and as he says does who follow "Quran and my sunnah" they will go to paradise" (with Allahs swt mercy) Now in Quran we have been advised to follow the teaching of our prophet Muhammad PBUH. If we truly follow and love our prophet we follow his teachings and not follow one of many false prophets.
aldinzilic : Brother, this is what I am trying to convey that we MUST not forget that the Prophet (saw) had warned that "Muslims are going to exactly resemble the Jews as much as one shoe of a pair resembles the other of the same pair". Brother, if you are witnessing Muslims following footsteps of Jews despite the warning of Prophet (saw) then why your heart is NOT filling with Allah's fear?
Jews r rejecting Jesus (as) & Muslims r rejecting Hadhrat Ahmad of Qadian based on Exactly same reasons
Brother what i am trying to convey is that Prophet Muhammad is the final prophet to man kind. Don't go away from the right path, You don't have to listen to any Mullahs. Mirza Ghulam Ahmed was not the prophet or the promissed Messiah having read his biography and read through some statments he made and predictions to come. Compare that to our prophet and you will see that our prophet never fortold an event that was not going to happen or made blasphomous comments.
We also believe Muhammad (saw) to be the Final Prophet. I am certain that your comments about founder of "Ahmadiyya movement in Islam" r based on one sided study i.e. based on Anti-Ahmadiyya literature. If you ever have studied the other side as well with unbiased mind supported by sincere prayers 2 Allah then SURELY you must have accepted him as Mahdi & Messiah. I am so sure about it because I myself was initially of the same opinion as you but when I watch the other side my views changed.
I have read the unbiased biography of Mirza Ghulam Ahmed which was not by a Non Ahmadiya scholar and i have noted some of the prophecies he made and them not becoming as promised. Similarly from the Muslim Non Ahmadiya sources I have seem some of the verses quoted by Mirza Ghulam Ahmed and I am convinced that from what he says does not go with the message of our final prophet and Allah. Finally i have seen the links you sent me. I was appalled by your suffering in Pakistan.
aldinzilic : Those non-Muslims who study only Anti-Islamic literature & don't bother to Study Islam at the source also say exactly similar things about Muhammad (saw) - Greatest of All Prophets. So, brother, at least see the other side of the picture before concluding.
Brother as Muslims prophet has taught us to be wise in our actions. Completely dismissing physical Jihad because some crazy fanatics use it to kill innocent people is not a wise action for the Muslims. Wars are still happening and Muslims should always be prepared to fight for justice. Similarly we also need to fight against those who take innocent lives and twist the words of God to suit their own needs
IQ233: Every time a True Prophet came majority of people rejected him due to the same behavior & attitude of amusing everyone to be False. Is it not so? Did majority of Jews not rejected previous Messiah considering him False? Did Prophet of Islam (saw) not warned Muslims of following the footsteps of Jews?
If Muslims still NOT need divine reformer then what else WORST they are expecting for themselves?
IQ233: Brother we also believe that Muhammad (saw) is the Final Prophet. But Prophet (saw) himself had said that a subordinate Prophet with the name of Jesus will come in future.
IQ233: You mean to say that he will come by the time the patient will have died!
It is strange that despite so much unrest in the world & despite so mush disaster in Muslim countries due to Mullahs, people yet do not think that divine guidance has become utmost essential!
Some patients do not agree that they need doctor & treatment - the end of such patients is always MOST Unfortunate.
There have been many false prophets. They do not match the description of Jesus. Are you saying Ghulam Ahmed was Jesus? If so why does Ghulam Ahmed change the the Sunnah which was left by the prophet and is mentioned in Koran like Jihad. The hadiths regarding Jesus never mention this.
aldinzilic: Brother, whoever attributed false claim towards Allah was destroyed. Only those flourished who were actually sent by Allah.
For Jihad of sword there r many preconditions among which ONE is "Those who have been expelled from their homes without a just cause except that they say: Our Lord is Allah. " 22:40 i.e. Religious war is only allowed if people/nation attack believers ONLY BECAUSE THEY SAY THAT ALLAH IS OUR LORD.
case number 2 Palestine, Muslims have been expelled from their homes, why because they say Allah is our lord. Case 3 Chechniya, Muslims are forced out of their homes and killed because Russia wants to rule over the land which was Muslim. The prophet PBUH did not send an army of Muslims into Syria and Palestine because they were going to come and destroy Islam in Arabia but because the Romans did not allow Muslims to spread the message of Islam.
aldinzilic: So, you are admitting yourself that Russia want to rule the land of Muslims. i.e. It is political war. They are not saying people to leave Islam otherwise they will be Killed.
Do you know that Mullahs are doing suicide bombing in the mosques of other sects in the name of Jihad? And such attacks are norm in Pakistan these days?
Forbiding Muslims to go to the Mosques closed down many mosques and creating a godless state in a country that was Muslims. As Muslims we have been taugh in Quran to do what is righ and forbid what is wrong, if you dont feel that this is wrong then brother we have different views. Killing Innocent people and Muslims is a crime and Allah's Anger and punishment would await those that do suicide bombings if they don't repent sincerely for what they have done.
aldinzilic: Brother, it is Pakistan, Bangladesh & Indonesia where Ahmadiyya mosques are being down. So-called Muslims are committing such crimes that even non-Muslims are not even committing.
Hadhrat Ahmad (as) has NOT abandon even an iota from Quran or Sunnah. He said that the precondition of Jihad as mentioned in 22:40 do not exist in this era because NO one is imposing war on Muslims JUST BECAUSE THEY SAY ALLAH IS OUR LORD" 22:40 Thus religious wars can not be made till in this era.
Prophet Muhammad (saw) has also said that "Messiah to come will cease wars".
Brother you are wrong I am from Bosnia and I lived through a war where People killed Muslims because they used to say Allah is our lord abd to say that does not exist in this era is completly wrong.
aldinzilic: Brother, in general, the fighting today is for political reasons & not for someone say "Our Lord is Allah". The case of Bosnia is different. There the innocents were killed JUST because they were Muslim. This is the reason that our IV head supported Bosinains more than anyone else at that time. But in Palestine the fighting is for land & thus even Palestinian Christians fight alongwith Muslims against Israel. Promised Messiah had only abrogated Jihad of cutting throats by Mullahs.
I feel and as do most Bosnians in Bosnians that the most support came from Muslim Brothers from Algeria, Tunisia, Saudia Arabia and other Muslim countries who came to Bosnia to help their brothers fight the people who have come to kill them. Humanitarian Aid is helpful brother but will not stop the enemy from killing you. That just goes to show that even in Modern Era Muslims are being killed for saying Our Lord is Allah and that physical Jihad is necessary.
aldinzilic : Brother, Islam-Ahmadiyya was the first who helped their Bosnian Brothers & Sisters despite our very limited resources. Killing of Muslims JUST BECAUSE THEY SAY "ALLAH IS OUR LORD" is rare. However, whenever & where ever it will happen then Jihad of sword will become necessary. Promised Messiah was not to abrogate Jihad of sword rather he was to suspend it till needs arise.
Bosnians are grateful for all the help they received be it humanitarian or other. I feel closer with the brothers who came to Bosnia to sacrifice their lives for the sake of Allah. It is the ultimate sacrifice. Every Muslim can give donations in Money and other materials, I respect and admire them all but a special place in my heart will always go to those Muslim brothers who sacrificed their lives to help their Muslim brothers.
Brother, it is also a fact that Muslims are killing Muslims in the name of Jihad. Do you know what is happening in Pakistan?
There are people killing innocent non-Muslims civilians in the name of Jihad as well. Therefore NO one can deny that Jihad is also mis-used by many Muslims. Thus restrictions were necessary.
The restrictions of Jihad have already been defined by Allah SWT and prophet Muhamad PBUH, The rules of engagement can be learned from his Sunnah and the Quran. Yes I agree some Muslims have deviated of the straight path and are using Jihad unjustly in their quest. I am aware of the situation in Pakistan, It greatly saddens me to see "Muslims" kill innocent civilians it shows how low our nation has gone. You cannot condole their actions in any way.
aldinzilic: Brother, the restriction of Jihad are there in Quran but Majority of Muslims are NOT following Quran. 72 sects of Muslims have distorted the true understanding of Islam. And it is what Prophet (saw) had already foretold. Thus it was the necessity of the time that Allah has sent Mahdi & Messiah to revive the true understanding of Quran & Islam. The Prophet (saw) had warned the Muslims that they r going to split into 73 sects & to repeat similar mistakes as Jews did.
aldinzilic : Is it not true that about the Majority of Mullahs (i.e72 out of 73) & their followers the Prophet (saw) said that ""A time will come when nothing will remain of Islam except its name and nothing will remain of the Quran except its inscription. Their mosques will be full but void of guidance. Their divines (Mullahs) will be the worst creatures under the sky; all the evil will be emerged from them and will revert to them." Mushkat
Is it NOT exactly what happening today in the world?
aldinzilic: There was a time when there was compulsion in religion i.e people use force to change the faith. Thus whenever such situation will come in this era there will also be Jihad of sword but what Mullahs are doing in general is ABSOLUTELY NOT JIHAD.
As I know Elijah Muhammad NEVER published/announced any claim regarding his being Prophet of Allah or Appointed one by Allah. Had he published/announced such claim & survived & his movement flourished after such clear announcement ONLY then he would have been a True Prophet. Because Quran tells us that anyone who attribute FALSE claim of being appointed one by Allah through His revelation is always destroyed.
hey will then fight and a third (part) of the army would run away, whom Allah will never forgive. A third (part of the army), which would be constituted of excellent martyrs in Allahs eye, would be killed and the third who would never be put to trial would win and they would be conquerors of Constantinople. And as they would be busy in distributing the spoils of war (amongst themselves) after hanging their swords by the olive trees, t
aldinzilic: Can the wars in this era be fought with swords? These Prophecies are definitely metaphoric & allegorical. Otherwise Muslim MUST take each & every word of it literally & DO NOT USE MODERN WEAPONS INSTEAD STICK TO SWORDS.
why do my comments get blocked when i write them. Half of the evidence and information I write does not appear. I have never sworn or said any words which might be offensive.
Imam Muslim (d.261/839) has narrated from Abu Hurayrah , that he heard Allahs Messenger saying,"The Last Hour would not come until the Romans would land at al-Amaq or in Dabiq. An army consisting of the best (soldiers) of the people of the earth at that time will come from Madina (to counterattack them). When they will arrange themselves in ranks,
'Abdullah ibn 'Abbas said about Qur'an 4:159: "This verse is proof that Jesus (pbuh), son of Mary, will appear All of the People of the Book will believe in him before his death."108 Ibn Abbas one of the companions of the prophet
aldinzilic: Brother, you are Absolutely wrong. Ibn-e-Abbas (ra) never said the WORDS which you have attributed towards him.
Talking about Jews, Allah says that "Allah set a seal upon them owing to their unbelief, so they shall not believe except a few" 4:155. thus according to this verse there will be few among Jews who will believe but Mullahs says opposite to what Quran says.
Brther if you put in Hadith Jesus return in yahoo you will see the quote from Ibn Abbas regarding this. Further Hadith from Imam Tirmidhi that narrates that prophet PBUH says "Son of Maryam (Mary) will kill the Dajjal at the door of LUD." Imam Tirmidhi(d.279/857) then said "This is an authentic Hadith." Obviously he KILLS the Dajjal which the Hadith clearly states and in whch you dont believe as you dont believe in Fighting Physically (against your enemies) in Islam.
aldinzilic: Brother, the Ahadith you are referring also says that Jesus will go after Dajjal (The Most Powerful Non-Believer Ever Existed) riding on horse & having a sword in his hand. Please for Allah sake think & use your brain. Can it be taken literally? Can now days most powerful enemy be killed while riding horse & having sword as weapon?
In another verse of Quran Allah says that He will Exalt the those who accepted Jesus (as) over those who rejected him (i.e Jews) till the "Day Of Judgment". Thus we read that "I will exalt those who follow you above those who disbelieve, till Day of Resurrection. Then to Me is the ultimate destiny of all of you, then I will judge among you regarding your disputes." 3:55. In this verse Allah is clearly saying that dispute among Jews & Christians over Jesus will remain till "Day of Judgment"
Please dont forget to quote the full verse which states previously "Oh Jesus! I will take thee and raise thee to myself and clear thee of those that blashpheme. Obviosly with accordance to the Sunnah of the prophet PBUH ISAA was raised by ALLAH SWT. This is one of the miracles, we can wait for his return.
aldinzilic: Brother, there is absolutely no Hadith/sunah of Prophet (saw) (even week) saying that Jesus (as) was Raised Bodily by Allah.
You may wait but remember that this is the same mistake which Jews did or even doing till date - i.e waiting for an old Prophet to physically descend from heavens.
And remember, Prophet's (saw) warning that Muslims r going to repeat same mistakes (resemble) as Jews did. Despite this warning & similarity of situations if people r not taking lesson then....
You talk about people rejecting them. That is true remember in Islamic hstory when prophet puh passed away a person called MUSAYLAMA callled himselfe the prophet. So Muslims in order to try to avoid being like the Jews should have accepted him as their prophet. No of course not there will be no more prophets. Muhammad PBUH was the last prophet. ISAA AS will not be a new prophet but the same prophet that was raised by Allah SWT
aldinzilic: Remember that False Prophets are always destroyed. Had Hadhrat Ahmad of Qadian (as) also a False Prophet he must have destroyed along with his movement by now.
Hmadhrat Muhammad (saw) is NO doubt is the Final Prophet of Allah but the Messiah was also to appear among ummah in the capacity of subordinate prophet.
v158 Allah raised him up onto himself. Allah is the most powerfull, most wise. Clearly Allah raised Jesus and put someone on his place this evidence is further supported in verse 159 from a well respected scholar Ibn HanafiyyaQur'an 4:159 in these terms: "He will descend before the Day of Judgment. All Jews and Christians will believe in him." this evidence is supported by many scholars including Al Hakam al Ghifari, Hassan Al Basri amongst others
aldinzilic: Jews wanted to Kill Jesus (as) on the cross in order to proved him (Allah Forbid) a Cursed ONE. Because, Bible says that the one who is died upon the cross is a Cursed one. Therefore in 4:157 Allah is saying that Jews could NOT succeeded in Killing him on the cross Rather on the contrary Allah Exalted his status. Brother, Many great scholars e.g Imam Malik, Imam Ibn-e-Hazm etc have said that Jesus had died as well. Therefore, rather going after scholars v MUST consult Quran.
aldinzilic: Quran as well as established laws of nature + modern researchers all says that Jesus (as) had survived crucifixion & later died like other human-beings. But it is strange that people prefer to live in myths & fairy tales.
Can you tell me that in which direction a Physical Body MUST travel to reach Allah? Is Allah limited in space like us so that one has to undertake a physical journey towards Him? FOR ALLAH SAKE JUST THINK!!
Prophet pbuh never said that Jesus will live 120 years. In the Kuran it clearly states that Jesus has not "passed away". In the Hadith it is said that Jesus will rule the world for 40 years after his return.
aldinzilic: Prophet (saw) did said that Jesus lived 120 years. In another Hadith the Prophet said "If Jesus & Moses would have ALIVE then they had to obey/follow me" Ref: (Tafseer-Ibn-e-Kathir).
Then indicating that Jesus to come will be different from the one who appeared among Israelite, the Prophet said "There will be NO Mahdi Except Essa" Thus confirming that the Jesus to come will be from among his followers.
Imran ibn Hussain radiyallahu anhu narrates from the Noble Prophet Mohammed (peace & blessings be upon him), There will always be a group of people upon the path of Allah, overpowering their enemies until the Order Of Allah comes and Isa alaihis salaam (Jesus - peace be upon him) descends.
Clearly Jesus comes at the time of The Dajjal the one eyed liar nothing about different Jesus but the samE isaa AS that was taken up to the heavens. IF he is dead he cannot discend and kill the Dajjal.
aldinzilic: We do not deny coming of Jesus. The actual controversy is whether 2,000 years OLD Jesus will come back or someone similar to him from Ummah will come under his name & title. There are too many evidences of someone else coming under his name & title. These includes:
1) Prophet's (saw) describing two diff appearances of two Jesus (Bukhari)
2) Prophet (saw) categorically saying that "There will be NO Mahdi Except Issa"
3) Even scholars like Imam Malik saying that Jesus had died.
aldinzilic : Can you quote a single verse of Quran saying that Jesus (as) had NOT passed away? I can quote many verses of Quran certifying that Jesus is NO more physically alive nor he can return to this world.
aldinzilic : Brother, it is a matter of point of view. Because, those who believe that Jesus (as) has Physically raised to Allah say that this Hadith is week. While those who believe that he had died like all human-beings believe it to be strong Hadith conforming Quran as well as established laws of Nature.
Yes that time is not here the time when the noble Quran will be raised from the Earth is the time after Isaa A.S has passed away. Is Ghulam Ahmed Jesus? No Because Jesus will appear in the middle east (Damascus) and he will lead prayer for the Muslims before he goes and vanquishes the Dajjal
Brother, it is clearly mentioned that Promised Messiah will appear TO THE EAST OF DAMASCUS and not in Damascus. And Qadian is exactly to the east of Damascus.
It is very clear that it will be in Damascus NOT east of Damascus. ("Isa", Encyclopedia of Islam) please refer to wikipedia also that supports the theory. "Jesus will descend at the point of a white arcade IN Damascus, dressed in yellow robes - his head anointed. He will then join the Mahdi in his war against the Dajjal". Type in Jesus in Islam in wikipedia and you will see it under the paragraph of second coming.
watch this video {watch?v=WD12qA1tKkI} & you will be amazed to know that NOT ONLY various Ahadith but also Gospel describe "East" as the place of coming of Messiah. The Hadith of Muslim clearly says that He will descend on the white minaret TO THE EAST OF DAMASCUS.
From the east is where the Dajjal will first come to the Earth Near Iran or Qadian maybe. Again you seem to go on about being east of Damascus, this is wrong It will be in Damascus. The hadith you used has been misquoted by you. You have completly disregarded other prophecies like the killing of the Dajjal the physical attributes of the Dajjal, The signs of the Dajjal which the Muslims believe, ISA AS will ascend in the same form as he was taken from this Earth.
aldinzilic: Brother, prophecies about future are mostly based on visions or dreams & Quran tells us that visions/dreams requires interpretation & cannot be taken literally. Brother, is it NOT a fact that Jews are still rejecting Jesus (as) as Messiah because the Biblical Prophecies about him have NOT yet fulfilled literally? You will be amazed to watch Jews raising EXACTLY same objections against Jesus as today Muslims r doing against their Messiah {watch?v=HbMO_zWp_lo}
Obviously you don't really seem to beleive in Hadith as you have completely disregarded the authentic hadith regarding Dajjal and his appearance. You seemed to have mixed up Jesus with the Mehdi and changed the hadith to say east of Damascus rather than in Damascus
aldinzilic : Dear, distortion and alteration of understanding of scriptures is NOT limited to previous People. The Prophet (saw) had said that Muslims are going to do exactly the same. thus portraying this age the Prophet (saw) said
"A time will come when nothing will remain of Islam except its name and nothing will remain of the Quran except its inscription. Their mosques will be full but void of guidance. " Mushkat
Brother, I have Not mixed-up Mahdi with Jesus. rather Prophet (saw) himself said that
"There will be NO Mahdi except Issa" Ibn-e-Majjah
Ibn-e-Majja is among the six authentic book of Hadith. In addition, In Bukhari also the Prophet described two different appearances of the two Jesus. i.e. the One whom he saw among all passed away Prophets & the One who was to come in future. So, can you explain that why the appearances r different. And Why Inb-e-Majja says that Mahdi 7 Jesus r same?
Brother the prophet swt also said on his final sermon before he passed away "O People, NO PROPHET OR APOSTLE WILL COME AFTER ME AND NO NEW FAITH WILL BE BORN"
" I leave behind me two things, the Quran and my example the SUNNA and if you follow these you will never go astray."
aldinzilic: This is what we (Ahmadi-Muslims) also believe that NO Prophet with a NEW FAITH will ever come. Whoever, will come will be subordinate of Muhammad (saw) as also promised in 4:69.
Brother the Prophet (saw) also foretold that "A time will come when nothing will remain of Islam except its name and nothing will remain of the Quran except its inscription...." Mushkat
And for such dark age the Prophet (saw) also told about coming of subordinate Prophet under the name of Jesus.
Promised Messiah has killed Dajjal by proving that False Lord of Christians is NOT alive in heavens rather he is buried in Kashmir. Quran also tells us that the one who is defeated by clear proofs is the who is perished or Killed. Thus Quran says "he who would perish (Killed) might perish by clear proof 8:42
Jesus (as) migrating to Kashmir & his burial there is a fact which now even Christians Schlars & Historians are also compelled to admit. For proof watch {watch?v=9DXCZFRsyl8}
its always the indians n pakis who start all this isnt it.... i remembr i wz in mecca n this guy never used to pray there when askd why he said " my prayer will not get accepted if i dont pray behind my imam".. so dumb isnt it...n he ws frm india or pak ..i know its weird to say that here ... but not all mullas are proper.
i think zakir naik is proper...he knows what he talks about.... his knowledge is jus 2 good...if i do get to talk to him ill ask him abt this..
It was Prophet (saw) who foretold that Messiah to descend to the east of Damascus & Qadian is exactly to the east of Damascus. About the rest of Islam at that time the Prophet (saw) said "A time will come when nothing will remain of Islam except its name and nothing will remain of the Quran except its inscription. Their mosques will be full but void of guidance. Their divines (Mullahs) will be the worst creatures under the sky; all the evil will be emerged from them and will revert to them."
Most sunni scholars do not believe the Dajjal has come. It is very clear in discription of what the Dajjal will look like. Obviously if the Dajjal has not come then the Mehdi is not with us. Also Imam Mahdi will lead the army against the Dajjal which is quiet difficult since Ahmediyas don't believe in war.
aldinzilic: Many non-Ahmadi scholars admits that "ALL THE SIGNS OF IMAM MAHDI HAS BEEN FULFILLED" as shown in this video as well. You are right that Mahdi was to lead the war against Dajjal - but you are ignoring the fact that war is also fight with arguments. Promised Messiah (as) has defeated Dajjal by proving from Bible as well as history that the false God of Christians had survived crucifixion & later died & buried in Kashmir.
Sorry but you are wrong MOST respected scholars and Muslims in the world DO NOT BELIEVE THE IMAM MAHDI, has come and the antichrist has come. The description of the war is very descriptive and the way Dajjal dies by being killed and thats not by words but by a weapon. Hence the full story of the Dajjal and the miracles he performs and the signs leading up to that are ignored? Do you really believe that the Dajjal has been and died?
aldinzilic: Brother, there is NO compulsion in religion. If you take things differently earnestly then your matter is with your Allah. Only He is the final Judge. Allah knows that we earnest take prophecies metaphoric because we know that earlier Jews also took prophecies too literally & thus deprived of accepting their Messiah. For Proof watch {watch?v=HbMO_zWp_lo}. Brother, did Prophet (saw) not warned that Muslims are going to commit exactly same mistakes as Jews did (i.e Exactly resemble)?
Brother you do not relise that prophet warned us about the false prophets that will come after him. Look at Islamic History and see how many false prophets came. How wars were fought against individuals who claimed to be given the prophethood. They also made fake prophecies and tried to make their own books which where full of fallacies. Coming of Jesus will be a miracle just like his Birth.
aldinzilic: Brother, we realize that Prophet (saw) warned us about False Prophets. But it is your Mullahs who do not realize that Prophet (saw) also foretold that "thing r going to happen to my ummah as it happened to Israelite" Thus a Jesus like Prophet was to appear among Muslims teaching against blood-shed & the Ummah was to reject him like Jews rejected Jesus as their Messiah.
Why ahmadis are not correcting their faith why they insisting on false prophet claim before 100 years which is created by the British gov to break ummah unity. The punishment of Ahmad raza khan sin why the innocent ahmadi Muslims taking why don't they ask their scholar to correct their kalima and faith and joint to the main stream Islam who are Ahmad raza khan given permission to make halal jihad as haramAll the world scholar or mulvis are not fool to declare ahamdis as kafir
dpremi1126 1 year ago
@dpremi1126: You r totally misinformed. These r ONLY Ahmadis who have corrected the beliefs through Allah's appointed Messiah at the time when situation of Islam was as per following Hadith.
"A time will come when NOTHING will remain of ISLAM except its name and NOTHING will remain of the Quran except its inscription. Their mosques will be full but void of guidance. Their Mullahs will b WORST CREATURES under the sky; all the evil will be emerged from them and will revert to them” Mushkat
dawah2 1 year ago
@dpremi1126 : You r grossly misinformed. These r Mullahs belonging to 72 sects who r Killing Ahmadis while they were offering Jummah prayers. These r Mullahs belonging to 72 sects who r erasing & defacing Kalima لا اله الا الله محمد رسول اللہ from Ahmadiyya mosques & houses. PROOF {watch?v=XynKJMo9MIE}
Dear, the name of founder of Ahmadiyya movement in Islam was not Ahmad Raza. Rather his name was Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as).
dawah2 1 year ago
@dpremi1126 : You said that "All the world scholar or mulvis are not fool to declare ahamdis as kafir". Do you know that our beloved Prophet (saw) had foretold 1,400 years ago that ALL THE 73 SECTS ARE GOING TO BECOME HELL-BOUND EXCPT ONLY ONE? You are right that all the Mullahs belonging to all the 72 sects are separating us as non-Muslim. But on the other hand the VERDICT of Prophet (saw) was OPPOSITE - declaring 72 as Hell BOUND & ONLY ONE as Muslim.
dawah2 1 year ago
@dawah2 you are not even a sect of islam. what are you talking about. first be muslim and then you will be able to join some sect. you are following a false prophet. that makes you nonmuslim. and who are you to declare which sect is going to hell and which is going to heaven. who the hell are you
faziljaved 1 year ago
@faziljaved : You are right that I am NOT the part of 72 sects of Islam who are MUSLIM in your sight. Rather I belong to that 73 sect which is different from all of you 72 sects. BUT remember that the VERDICT of our Beloved Prophet (saw) is that the ONLY ONE (Different from the REST OF 72) will be on the Right path.
dawah2 1 year ago
@dawah2 you repeat that again. i did not know that you were the authority to declare and differentiate between the sects. our prophet talked about the sects of islam not of non muslims. you are nonmuslims according to all the ullamas. and also count me the 72 sects. what are these sects. please tell me. give me a list. if you cannot then your whole point is useless. your prophet claims to be Eesa, and i have not seen an indian Eesa in my life never heard of him
faziljaved 1 year ago
@faziljaved : The 72 deviants sects definately was to think of the 73rd rightly guided Jamah as non-Muslim because of their differences. Secondly, Prophet (saw) had himself mentioned the signs of the ONLY ONE rightly guided one by giving its resemblance with himself & his sahaba. Watch in this documentary the documentary evidences of Islam-Ahmadiyya with Prophet (saw) & his sahabas. I challenge u to try to refute these evidences of similarities.
dawah2 1 year ago
@faziljaved: Which Ullamas you are talking about man ? Those Ullamas who have been declared WORST CREATURE on the earth by our Holy Prophet Muhammad (SAW) ? The WORST CREATURE will declare someone NON-MUSLIMS and you will follow them ?? means you will follow WORST CREATURE ? ok go ahead... and one thing more about 73rd Sect.. Sahaba asked Hazrat Muhammad SAW that what are the signs for those people. Huzoor SAW said . they will face the situations same like us. un k halaat maray jaise honge.
iahmedghuman 1 year ago
@faziljaved: aur hamare Halaat kya waise nahi hain Jaisay NABI Pak SAW k thay? Sub Ulama mil k humain ghair muslim qarar nahin dete jaisay Hazrat Muhammad (SAW) ko sab sardar mil k Jhoota (Nauzubillah) kehte thay? kya humain hamare mulk se hijrat pe majboor nahin kiya gya? kya humain kamzor samaj k mara nai jata k apne aqeeday se phir jayen? kya Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmed ko nihayat shareef aur sacha muslim nahi kaha gya jab tak unhon ne Imam Mehdi honay ka dawa nai kiya (this video shows truth)?
iahmedghuman 1 year ago
If U think Dajjal has come & Mahdi! But Isa was suppose to kill the Dajjal that will have Magic Powers! U R Kaffir That Spread Propaganda!
U only show clips for few secs but cut the main bits off! YOU KAFFIRS!!!
KUzZ911 2 years ago
KUzZ911: Watch how similar are arguments of Jews who have also rejected their Messiah {watch?v=HbMO_zWp_lo}
Remember that Quran tells us that usually Allah tells his Loved Ones about future events through Dreams/Visions & that all such visions are Always fulfilled in metaphoric way & NOT in Literal way.
dawah2 2 years ago
Ahmadyians are not Muslims! Asthagfirallaha!
Mehdi has not come yet!
You dont believe in the Quran and Hadith!
Mahdi will come & will guide all Muslims together & we will Unite!
KUzZ911 2 years ago
KUzZ911: Alhamdo-Lillah we are Muslim. We believe in each & every word of Quran & those Hadith which have their roots in Quran. Mahdi & Messiah has come. But like all other previous divinely guided reformers majority has rejected him.
Certainly, every divinely guided reformer came to unite the people BUT ONLY THOSE BENEFITED from them who accept them.
Muhammad (saw) came as Blessings for Entire humanity BUT ONLY those benefited from him who accepted him.
dawah2 2 years ago
ridiculous video no evidence whatsoever
abz3751678 2 years ago
abz3751678: "And even if We send down unto them angels, and the dead speak to them, and We gather to them all things face to face, they would not believe, unless Allah enforced His will. But most of them behave ignorantly" Al-Quran 6:111
dawah2 2 years ago
Then where is Jesus? Because Jesus was suppose to come after Mahdi (Quran Hadith) to kill the Dajjal? Why have you skipped that bit for? Most of the Muslims were suppose to reconise Mahdi! You are talking about the Fake Mahdi!
KUzZ911 1 year ago
@KUzZ911 :
1) Prophet (saw) said that "There will be NO MAHDI EXCEPT ISSA/JESUS" {Ibn-e-Majja}. In another Hadith Prophet (saw) further clarified that the Issa/Jesus to come in ummah will be from the ummah by saying "Soon u will meet Issa/Jesus as IMAM MAHDI"
2) Is it NOT true that Prophet (saw) warned that "Muslims r going to repeat the mistakes of Jews"? {Tirmadhi}. Did Jews NOT rejected their Messiah based on taking the Prophecies too literally?
dawah2 1 year ago
@dawah2
this hadith is consider week according to the scholors
also goes against the well establish other narrations
xiaahmad1 1 year ago
@xiaahmad1 : Concept of Issa 2 b born in ummah is not only in accordance with established laws of nature but is also in line with sunnat of Allah as found in religious history. Jews were also waiting for Elijah (an old Prophet) to return physically FLYING DOWN from heaven. But it was Jesus who explained that once gone from the world people Never Return rather others come under their name/title.
Whereas Human Flying Down from sky is just FOOLISH idea which is totally against the laws of nature
dawah2 1 year ago
Im no scholar of Islam but whoever follows this path of ahmadiyyah, I pray that Allah guides you on siratal mustaqeem...ameen.
StudentofKnowledge99 2 years ago
StudentofKnowledge99 : Brother, we MUST pray to Allah that He enable all of us to follow that path which is Right in His knowledge. Because ONLY Allah knows best & NOT Mullah.
dawah2 2 years ago
The Qadianis believe that Allaah fasts, prays, sleeps, wakes up, writes, makes mistakes and has intercourse exalted be Allaah far above all that they say.
JOKE!
AfghDude 2 years ago
AfghDude: When Mullah's couldn't refute Ahmadiyya Logical & Rational arguments based on Quran & laws of nature then they start abusing & start attributing totally False & baseless blasphemous things towards Islam-Ahmadiyya.
We Never even though of blasphemous thing like INTERCOURSE with Allah (Astaghfarullah). Such allegations r ONLY creation of filthy minds of Mullahs.
However, Allah becoming hungry, thirsty etc. is also mentioned in ahadith which r metaphoric expressions.
dawah2 2 years ago
Hahahaha this is a joke!
A joke!
Your like the only 'muslim' who claims that Ahmadiyya was Imam Mahdi!
Hahahaha, very very funny.
AfghDude 2 years ago
AfghDude: Dear brother, you are not mocking at us Rather you are mocking at Prophet (saw) who said that "Out of 73 ONLY ONE will be on the Right Path".
Fear Allah ! Fear Allah !
dawah2 2 years ago
We all Muslims should fear Allaha! But you are Totally Brainwashed by believing Mahdi has come! You should fear Allaha before you say it! You are not accepted as Muslims even tho if you say it. Inshallaha when Mahdi will come then & then you will realise, if its the right time!
KUzZ911 1 year ago
@KUzZ911 : Dear, the one who was to come has already come. Now its upto every individual either to listen to him & ask Allah for enabling him/her to take right decision or to listen the LIAR Anti-Ahmadiyya Mullahs about whom Prophet (saw) had foretold 1,400 years ago that "THEY WILL BE WORST CREATURES ON EARTH".
However, remember that Jews also rejected (& still rejecting) Jesus as their Messiah based on exactly similar arguments as u r doing. Proof {watch?v=HbMO_zWp_lo}
dawah2 1 year ago
@dawah2 If he is the true Mahdi, then why does only a very tiny fraction of Islam recognize him? He must not have done his job correctly or he must have been a horrible 'Mahdi'. Ahmadiyya is just another cult. Just like the hundreds of other cults before and after it. Mirza Ghulam Ahmad is just one of thousands of people who claim to be 'Mahdi' or Prophets.
alhass2002kno 1 year ago
@alhass2002kno : If Jesus (as) was the True Messiah for Jews then ONLY a very TINY fraction of Jews accepted him? Watch the Jews raising exactly similar objections against their Messiah as today people are raising against the Messiah in Islam {watch?v=HbMO_zWp_lo}
Ahmadiyya Movement in Islam has spread in 190 countries of the world. No one can show any match of Islam Ahmadiyya with any similar movement in Islam.
dawah2 1 year ago
I don't believe Christ has come yet. He is still to come.
I still consider them misguided Muslims because they say Alshahada
TheSaffyone 1 year ago
@TheSaffyone :Jews also do not believe that their Messiah has come. They also reject Jesus (as) as their Messiah. And the reasons why they do so are EXACTLY similar to those on the basis of which you don't believe that Messiah in Islam has come. PROOF {watch?v=HbMO_zWp_lo}
Just watch {watch?v=HbMO_zWp_lo} & let me know that IF THERE IS ANY DIFFERENCE in the approach, LOGIC & arguments of Jews Rejecting Jesus & people rejecting Messiah in Islam? OK Don't tell me JUST ASK your own conscience!
dawah2 1 year ago
@dawah2
Ghulam Ahmed was having hell lot of error in his ARABIC books which he wrote
Imagine a prophet making mistake while passing divine reavealation, Nauzubillah
Get your Fact right
LA ILAHA IL LALAH MUHAMMADUR RASUL ALLAH
watch it
muhammadtaj2554 9 months ago
@muhammadtaj2554 : Anti-Islamic site says that same about Quran. Actually Quran tells us that "Allah NEVER send a Prophet whom people not mock at".
Br. These are we (Ahmadi Muslims) who are facing severe persecution for لا اله الا الله محمد رسول اللہ. Watch who are erasing this لا اله الا الله محمد رسول اللہ & who are facing persecution for this
{watch?v=XynKJMo9MIE}
R u inviting to this brand of Islam? {watch?v=x8TJTG4yUSQ}
dawah2 9 months ago
@TheSaffyone not only that but the AMI is continually growing
ServantoftheExalted 1 year ago
If u have some conscious,you will know that whatever u hv been doing with Ahmadis in Pakistan is completely inhuman and barbaric.You ppl are Godless people who hav no fear of the day of judgement.Just like empty vesseles who cry big about Islam but inside their heart and minds are Athiests.U pretend to b Muslims but as a matter of fact u r facist & Nazis who r ruthless 2 the minorities &intolerant, Unlike our beloved Mohammad(saw).If u had accepted 1% of the real Islam u wouldve learn from us
AhmadiyyatZB 2 years ago
You mustn't condemn 1.5 billion people worldwide.
djamaluddin 2 years ago
djamaluddin: False doctrines in the name of Islam have to be condemned - NO matter if one has to condemn 2.5 Billion people for this.
Did Prophet (saw) NOT condemned entire humanity on earth on his coming? Does it mean that IF billions are following False-hood then one must keep silent?
dawah2 2 years ago
As'kum. Why Holy Prophet (SAW) warned us about dajjal? And why He (SAW) said , Surah Al-Kahfi (1-10 and last) link to dajjal?
I took some studied, that I believe dajjal link to the group of people that believed God has a son....to find out more please refer to Surah Al- Kahfi.
jusrtrying2008 2 years ago 2
Stop blocking my comments, and then i'll talk.
Prove yourself if you are Truthful.
IQ233 2 years ago
IQ233: Brother, these so-called Muslims belonging to 72 sects are of so high character that they use such filthy and abusive language that cannot be allowed to appear directly. Thus, I have to first read the comments & allow them. This takes time. Otherwise. NO comment - no matter how harsh it may be is deleted. Only abusive & filthy comments are NOT allowed.
dawah2 2 years ago
dawah2, do not be fooled by the media. The media has always been against Islam.
And dawah2, do you accept Elijah Muhammad as your messenger too??
IQ233 2 years ago
IQ233: Brother, I am NOT fooled by the media Rather it seems that you are being FOOLED by the Mullahs belonging of 72 hell-bound sects. Is it not that Prophet (saw) has termed the Mullahs of our age as "The Worst Creatures on Earth"?
We believe Hadhrat Ahmad (as) to be Imam Mahdi & Promised Messiah whose advent was prophecized by Prophet Muhammad (saw).
Can you show me any claim by Elijah Muhammad to be a Prophet or appointed one by Allah which had been published in his lifetime?
dawah2 2 years ago
The Promised Messiah is supposed to beat Dajjal. The Mahdi is supposed to unite the Muslims. Hadhrat only caused disunity and is now dead.
And why are you now stopping comments?
Also i don't believe Elijah Muhammad was a prophet.
IQ233 2 years ago
IQ233 : Watch Jews also saying exactly similar things about their Messiah Jesus at watch?v=HbMO_zWp_lo . Promised Messiah (as) has killed the Dajjal by proving from Bible & History that false Lord of Christians did not die on the cross rather he survived & later buried in Kashmir. Whereas Mullahs are supporting Dajjal by saying that False lord of Christians is still bodily living whereas our beloved Prophet (saw) had died & buried on earth.
dawah2 2 years ago
You seemed to have dodged my point. The Muslims are still in disunity and your mahdi is dead.
Who is the dajjal that you are talking about?
IQ233 2 years ago
IQ233: Remember, the Prophet (saw) said that "Things are going to happen to my ummah exactly the way it happened to Israelite". Now first tell me that if 72 sects of Jews united by merely coming of Jesus (as) as their Messiah? Certainly not. But they gradually united by believing in one Messiah. Thus Jews started gradually shrinking while believers in Jesus (as) started gradually expanding. Same was to happen as per Prophet's verdict & same is actually happening.
dawah2 2 years ago
Give me the hadith that states "Things are going to happen to my ummah exactly the way it happened to Israelite"
IQ233 2 years ago
Holy Prophet (saw) said "Surely things will happen to my people as happened earlier to Israelite, so much so that they will resemble each other like one shoe in a pair resembles the other...Verily the Israelite were divided into 72 sections but my people will be divided into 73 sections, all of them will be in the fire except one...." Trimizi, Kitabul Eeman
dawah2 2 years ago
I agree with that Hadith. in fact Ahmadiyya is a perfect example of a sect.
After Muhammad (PBUH) died, we have become more divided. Don't act like division only rose after Hadhrat was born. The Prophet (PBUH) warned us about false prophets like Hadhrat and Elijah. and there will be more false prophets after this, no doubt.
IQ233 2 years ago
IQ233: ONLY Islam-Ahmadiyya is the Jamat formed by Allah through His appointed Mahdi & Messiah. Whereas all other sects are created by Mullah. The Prophet (saw) had said that ONLY ONE will be on Right Path while all others will be on Wrong path. Allah had compelled the Mullahs belonging to 72 sects to unanimously separate ONE from the rest of 72 by their own hands thus fulfilling the Hadith.
dawah2 2 years ago
I agree with the 70+ sects hadith. in fact Hadhrat and Elijah are good examples of that.
what do you have to say about all the hadiths that go against Hadhrat being the Messiah and Mahdi? are you going to ignore those hadith?
IQ233 2 years ago
IQ233 : Quran & Hadith proves the Truth of the claim of Hadhrat Ahmad of Qadian (as) to be the Mahdi & Promised Messiah.
dawah2 2 years ago
@dawah2
I wonder how Quran and Hadith proves his claim as mahdi and promised messiah to be true !!
lessirey 2 years ago
lessirey : As indicated in Quran (Surah Takweer etc) & explained in ahadith all the signs of later days when Mahdi & Messiah was to come have been fulfilled.
As shown in this documentary that even top order Non-ahmadi Scholars admit that all such signs have been fulfilled.
Watch this documentary with fear f Allah & things will Insha-Allah will be cleared to you.
dawah2 2 years ago
Jesus will rule on his second coming, Did this man rule ?
and where is Dajjal which the prophet predicted Jesus will kill ?
unfortunately i see a lot of points missing here..
lessirey 2 years ago
lessirey: Quran confirms that Allah usually tells His loved ones about future events through visions/dreams & that such visions r fulfilled in metaphoric manner & not literally. The essence of Prophet-hood is SPIRITUAL Kingdom & not worldly kingdom. This is the reason that Previous Messiah also didn't has worldly kingdom despite exactly similar prophecies.
Is it NOT true that Jews also rejected/rejecting Jesus based on EXACTLY similar arguments?
For amazing Similarities {watch?v=HbMO_zWp_lo}
dawah2 2 years ago
ofcourse there are metaphoric, but that doesnt mean EVERYTHING related to the prophecy is metaphoric.
infact prophet Muhammed(pbuh) gave vivid detail about the dajjal's physical characteristics, about his hair, his eye, his legs etc..
and according to the hadiths Mahdi and Jesus are two different personalities, and it will be the Mahdi who confirms the identity of Jesus.
and there are many such evidences which contradict your claims..
lessirey 2 years ago
lessirey: I agree that everything can't b taken as metaphoric - similarly u have 2 agree that everything can't b taken as literal either. Is it NOT true that Jews rejected Jesus as their Messiah because quite a few of their Prophecies doesn't fulfilled literally? Is it NOT True that Prophet Muhammad (saw) warned that Muslims r going exactly follow the footsteps of Jews?
Is it NOT true that today 72 sects of Muslims r rejecting their Messiah based on EXACTLY similar arguments as Jews r doing?
dawah2 2 years ago
lessirey: Although some Hadith speaks of Jesus & Mahdi as two personalities BUT there are aso Ahadith which Explicitly says that "There will be No Mahdi EXCEPT Issa/Jesus" {Ibn-e-Majjah}. In another Hadith the Prophet (saw) clarified that the Jesus & Mahdi will be one & the same person by mentioning that "Soon you will meet Isa/Jesus as IMAM MAHDI" {Musnad-e-Ahmad}
Is it not true that as per Quran Jews also use 2 present some verses while use to hide others like the today's Mullahs?
dawah2 2 years ago
So why do you ignore the hadiths which mention them as two separate individuals ?
btw, i couldnt find the reference to the hadiths you mentioned.
lessirey 2 years ago
Dear, these r our opponents (Mullahs belonging to 72 sects) who accept some Ahadith while reject the others. We do not reject any saying of Prophet Muhammad (saw) - rather we reconcile various sayings in such a way that they NOT only reconcile with each other BUT also become explanation of some verses of Quran.
In Al-Quran 4:69 Allah clearly says that after coming of Muhammad (saw) 2 attain any spiritual rank 1 MUST b follower of Muhammad (saw). Thus a Messiah from outside can't come!
dawah2 2 years ago
like you pick what suits your purpose.
Do you even know there is a science in hadith selection ? they dont randomly go around and pick hadiths.
well, i dont wanna fall into the "72" sects, So..
To you your religion and to me my religion.
Lakum deenukum waliya deen !
Ma' Salama.
lessirey 2 years ago
lessirey: I proved u that we do not pick & choose Ahadith which suits us rather we interpret them in a way that all of them points one & the same thing.
Those who could not reconcile Ahadith due to their pick & choose habit like the Jews have invented a phenomenon of "Science of accepting & rejecting Ahadith"
Remember all those who reject Prophets have similar arguments as Mullahs of our age.
If you don't really don't fall into 72 sects then u have to accept the 73rd Jamah of Mahdi
dawah2 2 years ago
Holy Prophet Mohammed SAAW said:
"In My Ummah, there shall be born Thirty Grand Liars (Dajjals),
each of whom will claim to be a prophet,
But I am the Last Prophet; there is No Prophet after Me."
AfghDude 2 years ago
AfghDude : Remember that the same Prophet (saw) also said that "There will be NO prophet between me & Issa & soon you will meet him".
Remember that the same Prophet (saw) said that "72 out of 73 sects will be Hell-Bound". Today Mullahs belonging to 72 sects say that ONLY One i.,e Ahmadiyya are non-Muslim while all other 72 sects are Muslims while Prophet's (saw) VERDICT is totally opposite. Now it is up to you either to either follow Mullah or the Prophet of Allah !
dawah2 2 years ago
Man, this is sad.
You think you came to islam but you didnt.
Follow the Quran and sahih hadeeth.
That their will be 73 sects doesnt mean theyr already 73 sects.
Really, this is crazy.
I hope Allah will guide you.
Your like brainwashed.
AfghDude 2 years ago
AfghDude: I have accepted Islam-Ahmadiyya after thorough research & extensive prayers to Allah. how can Allah misguide a person who does a sincere & unbiased research supported by extensive prayers?
Brainwashed are those who have never bothered to search for truth supported by sincere prayers to Allah - rather are following the faith of their forefathers JUST Blindly.
May Allah guide us all to the right path
dawah2 2 years ago
AfghDude 2 years ago
AfghDude: we do believe that Muhammad (saw) is the Last & Final Prophet. we also believe that Hadhrat Ahmad (as) of Qadian was the same Messiah & Mahdi who was to come as SUBORDINATE PROPHET - as per Quran & ahadith.
dawah2 2 years ago
And Eesa ibn Maryam (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) will come down and their leader will say to him: Come and lead us in prayer. But he will say: No, one of them should lead the others in prayer, as a sign of honour from Allaah to this ummah. Narrated by Muslim, 225.
it clearly says both are separate individuals, if you say its metaphoric, then what does it mean in your version ?
lessirey 2 years ago
Don't forget that same book of Hadith i.e MUSLIM also says "Certainly, the time of prayer shall come and then Jesus (pbuh) would descend & would lead them in prayer" {Muslim Book 41# 6924}. So, why to accept one Hadith of Muslim while reject the other?
Actually, these 2 Ahadith about the 1 to come under Titles of Jesus/Mahdi when considered collectively clearly shows that Jesus/Mahdi r two titles of the one 2 come was 2 b leader of Muslim but at the same time a follower of Muhammad
dawah2 2 years ago
that cant be contradiction, how do you know if mahdi will lead the prayer and jesus would also lead the prayer (at different time)
lessirey 2 years ago
If you read both the Ahadith of Muslim in entirety then you will realize that both r speaking the even of JUST on the descent of Jesus (as). This is the reason that non-Ahmadi Mullahs reject one of them.
Please watch {watch?v=HbMO_zWp_lo} & you will realize that Jews rejected/rejecting Jesus (as) as their Messiah based on exactly similar arguments as Mullahs of 72 sects r doing in the case of claimant of Messiah in Islam.
Watch it & ask yourself that if Prophet (saw) not warned about it?
dawah2 2 years ago
you must be from the Ahmadiyya movement.
They are not considerd as muslims.
AfghDude 2 years ago
AfghDude: Alhamdo-Lillah I am a converted Ahmadi-Muslims. You are right that 72 sects of Muslims consider us not part of them. But remember that Ptophet (saw) had gave very clear verdict that "At the time of Split 72 out of 73 sects will be hell-bound". Thus it is Allah who have separated & distinguished us from the Hell-Bound 72 at the hands of 72. Allah-ho-Akbar!!
dawah2 2 years ago
Surah 6:159 As for those who divide their religion and break up into sects, thou hast no part in them in the least: their affair is with Allah: He will in the end tell them the truth of all that they did.
Surah 30:32 (Do not fall in idol worship,) like Those who split up their Religion, and become (mere) Sects,- each party rejoicing in that which is with itself!
sphinxak 2 years ago
Sphinxak: " O children of Adam! if Messengers come to you from among yourselves, rehearsing My Signs unto you, then whoso shall fear God and do good deeds, on them shall come no fear nor shall they grieve. But those who reject Our Signs and turn away from them with disdain, these shall be the inmates of the Fire; they shall abide therein. Al-Quran 7:35-36
Yes it is prohibited for human to make sects BUT remember that once sects made then Allah form a group of guided people.
dawah2 2 years ago
Brother do not accept what some fanatical Mulahs are doing to represent the whole Muslim nation in the world. But remember the hadith of the prophet PBUH. If you see a wrong being done you should first try to correct it with your hand (action), if you cant then by your words even if you cant do that then by your heart but that is the very least. It is not just about changing peoples religion by force. As Muslims we should be united in fighting injustice.
aldinzilic 2 years ago
aldinzilic: It is not a matter of few Mullahs. Rather, Ahmadi-Muslims are legally prohibited to act upon Islam - i.e To recite quran, offer 5 times prayers to call their faith as Islam etc. Ahmadi-Muslims are persecuted for reciting Shahadah & for offering prayers by the Mullahs belonging to all the 72 sects. Even Govt. of Pakistan is now persecuting Ahmadi-Muslims.
Can you show even a single non-Muslim countries where people legally prohibited & are persecuted for reading Quran etc.?
dawah2 2 years ago
Even though I don't agree with your views. I don't think you should be prosecuted. But brother Muslims in countries like Albania, Chechniya, Russia amongst some others were prohibited from openly being a Muslim. No one is going to come to your house to stop you reading Quran or practising Islam. I do believe you are one of the sects prophet warned us about but it is not for me to judge you. Allah SWT will judge us all in the end to you is your religion and to me is mine.
aldinzilic 2 years ago
aldinzilic: THERE IS NO COUNTRY IN THE WORLD WHICH HAVE LAWS TO PROHIBIT PEOPLE TO READ QURAN OR TO OFFER 5 TIMES DAILY PRAYERS EXCEPT "ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF PAKISTAN" where Ahmad-Muslims are prohibited to do so according to country's Laws & constitution.
There is NO compulsion in Religion. We believe that Mahdi & Messiah has come if you wish to disagree then you has the right to do so. We can only request to conclude after watching the other side of the picture supported by sincere prayers.
dawah2 2 years ago
No one prohibits you from reading Quran and doing your prayers in your home. If you cannot do that, my advice would be to move to a place where you can practice your religion i.e UK, US I know that it can be very difficult but many Muslims move from their countries because they had difficulty practising their religion. The prophet PBUH migrated in order to be able to practise Islam.
aldinzilic 2 years ago
aldinzilic: Brother, I can give you too many evidences that hundreds of Ahmadi-Muslims are persecuted for Reading quran, Offering 5 times prayers i.e. the same situation through which the Prophet (saw) & his initial companions were once passed.
dawah2 2 years ago
aldinzilic: Is it not that previous Messiah & his companions also did not fight any war? Was Messiah NOT the prince of Peace? Is it not true that the main reason of unrest in the world today is religious extremism of Mullahs? Did prophet (saw) not foretold that a time will come when all the evil (blood-shed) will be emerged from the mosques & will revert to them? Was a Messiah to come among Muslims as well. Was the Messiah not to cease religious wars (Bukhari)?
dawah2 2 years ago
Our last beloved prophet was the role model to us all and he did marry, rule and fight when necessary, Yes when Jesus PBUH descends and is with us all the wars will stop and there will be tranquility in the world. This is another reason why Mirza Ghulam Ahmed was NOT the Messiah as there were wars when he was alive and there are wars now, there was no tranquility in the world which goes against the prophecy.
aldinzilic 2 years ago
Brother, watch this video {watch?v=HbMO_zWp_lo}. Amazingly Jews are also shown EXACTLY saying the same i.e How Jesus (as) could be Messiah because when Messiah was to come then there was NO more war. This proves that Messiah was to forbid fighting among his followers (As Jesus did) while the remaining people would have continued to fight & Kill each other. Same was to happen with Messiah in Islam. But Prophet (saw) also foretold that Muslims r to repeat SAME MISTAKES AS JEWS DID/doing
dawah2 2 years ago
The difference between Muslims and Jews is that we believe that Jesus will rule the world. He will be a "Just Ruler" (Abu Hurayrah) "he will demolish the crucifix, slay the pig, abolish the jizya and the other religions will vanish giving place to Islam alone". (Abu Hurairah) Therefore there will be Muslims only, Probably you would understand that in methoporical sense. I like most Muslims believe that in physical sense because it says Allah will destroy false Messiahs (sects) during his reign
aldinzilic 2 years ago 2
aldinzilic : As far as behavior, approach and beliefs are concerned today Muslims are exactly following footsteps of Jews as far as rejection of two Messiahs are concerned. For proof watch {watch?v=HbMO_zWp_lo}. And it was to happen - if Prophet (saw) had said Truth. In this video you will watch that Jews are also taking prophecies too literally & saying that Jesus (as) cannot be True Messiah because a) An old Prophet Elijah did not return b) Jesus was not ruled as said in prophecies etc.
dawah2 2 years ago
aldinzilic : Brother, there is NO difference in the reasons due to which Jews rejected Jesus (as) as their Messiah & the reasons due to which Muslims r rejecting Hadhrat Ahmad as their Messiah. Actually, both r rejecting their Messiahs because both of them r taking the prophecies too literally. Based on literal understanding of prophecies both are excepting their Messiah to rule the world. Both are expecting that with Messiah there should have been only one religion on earth.
dawah2 2 years ago
I have seen the video. The video is interesting I can see the resemblance Between Muslims. But As Muslims we have the guidance and path to follow from our Prophet Muhammad PBUH and as he says does who follow "Quran and my sunnah" they will go to paradise" (with Allahs swt mercy) Now in Quran we have been advised to follow the teaching of our prophet Muhammad PBUH. If we truly follow and love our prophet we follow his teachings and not follow one of many false prophets.
aldinzilic 2 years ago
aldinzilic : Brother, this is what I am trying to convey that we MUST not forget that the Prophet (saw) had warned that "Muslims are going to exactly resemble the Jews as much as one shoe of a pair resembles the other of the same pair". Brother, if you are witnessing Muslims following footsteps of Jews despite the warning of Prophet (saw) then why your heart is NOT filling with Allah's fear?
Jews r rejecting Jesus (as) & Muslims r rejecting Hadhrat Ahmad of Qadian based on Exactly same reasons
dawah2 2 years ago
Brother what i am trying to convey is that Prophet Muhammad is the final prophet to man kind. Don't go away from the right path, You don't have to listen to any Mullahs. Mirza Ghulam Ahmed was not the prophet or the promissed Messiah having read his biography and read through some statments he made and predictions to come. Compare that to our prophet and you will see that our prophet never fortold an event that was not going to happen or made blasphomous comments.
aldinzilic 2 years ago
We also believe Muhammad (saw) to be the Final Prophet. I am certain that your comments about founder of "Ahmadiyya movement in Islam" r based on one sided study i.e. based on Anti-Ahmadiyya literature. If you ever have studied the other side as well with unbiased mind supported by sincere prayers 2 Allah then SURELY you must have accepted him as Mahdi & Messiah. I am so sure about it because I myself was initially of the same opinion as you but when I watch the other side my views changed.
dawah2 2 years ago
I have read the unbiased biography of Mirza Ghulam Ahmed which was not by a Non Ahmadiya scholar and i have noted some of the prophecies he made and them not becoming as promised. Similarly from the Muslim Non Ahmadiya sources I have seem some of the verses quoted by Mirza Ghulam Ahmed and I am convinced that from what he says does not go with the message of our final prophet and Allah. Finally i have seen the links you sent me. I was appalled by your suffering in Pakistan.
aldinzilic 2 years ago
aldinzilic : Those non-Muslims who study only Anti-Islamic literature & don't bother to Study Islam at the source also say exactly similar things about Muhammad (saw) - Greatest of All Prophets. So, brother, at least see the other side of the picture before concluding.
dawah2 2 years ago
Brother as Muslims prophet has taught us to be wise in our actions. Completely dismissing physical Jihad because some crazy fanatics use it to kill innocent people is not a wise action for the Muslims. Wars are still happening and Muslims should always be prepared to fight for justice. Similarly we also need to fight against those who take innocent lives and twist the words of God to suit their own needs
aldinzilic 2 years ago
Beware of false prophets like Elijah Muhammad and Mirza Ghulam Ahmad
IQ233 2 years ago
IQ233: Every time a True Prophet came majority of people rejected him due to the same behavior & attitude of amusing everyone to be False. Is it not so? Did majority of Jews not rejected previous Messiah considering him False? Did Prophet of Islam (saw) not warned Muslims of following the footsteps of Jews?
If Muslims still NOT need divine reformer then what else WORST they are expecting for themselves?
dawah2 2 years ago
Yes, but this doesn't we should accept everyone who claims to be a prophet as a prophet.
Muhammad (PBUH) said he was the last prophet.
IQ233 2 years ago
IQ233: Brother we also believe that Muhammad (saw) is the Final Prophet. But Prophet (saw) himself had said that a subordinate Prophet with the name of Jesus will come in future.
dawah2 2 years ago
Yes, Jesus (PBUH) will come, but has not yet come as there are more signs that need to be fulfilled first.
IQ233 2 years ago
IQ233: You mean to say that he will come by the time the patient will have died!
It is strange that despite so much unrest in the world & despite so mush disaster in Muslim countries due to Mullahs, people yet do not think that divine guidance has become utmost essential!
Some patients do not agree that they need doctor & treatment - the end of such patients is always MOST Unfortunate.
dawah2 2 years ago
There have been many false prophets. They do not match the description of Jesus. Are you saying Ghulam Ahmed was Jesus? If so why does Ghulam Ahmed change the the Sunnah which was left by the prophet and is mentioned in Koran like Jihad. The hadiths regarding Jesus never mention this.
aldinzilic 2 years ago
aldinzilic: Brother, whoever attributed false claim towards Allah was destroyed. Only those flourished who were actually sent by Allah.
For Jihad of sword there r many preconditions among which ONE is "Those who have been expelled from their homes without a just cause except that they say: Our Lord is Allah. " 22:40 i.e. Religious war is only allowed if people/nation attack believers ONLY BECAUSE THEY SAY THAT ALLAH IS OUR LORD.
dawah2 2 years ago
case number 2 Palestine, Muslims have been expelled from their homes, why because they say Allah is our lord. Case 3 Chechniya, Muslims are forced out of their homes and killed because Russia wants to rule over the land which was Muslim. The prophet PBUH did not send an army of Muslims into Syria and Palestine because they were going to come and destroy Islam in Arabia but because the Romans did not allow Muslims to spread the message of Islam.
aldinzilic 2 years ago
aldinzilic: So, you are admitting yourself that Russia want to rule the land of Muslims. i.e. It is political war. They are not saying people to leave Islam otherwise they will be Killed.
Do you know that Mullahs are doing suicide bombing in the mosques of other sects in the name of Jihad? And such attacks are norm in Pakistan these days?
dawah2 2 years ago
Forbiding Muslims to go to the Mosques closed down many mosques and creating a godless state in a country that was Muslims. As Muslims we have been taugh in Quran to do what is righ and forbid what is wrong, if you dont feel that this is wrong then brother we have different views. Killing Innocent people and Muslims is a crime and Allah's Anger and punishment would await those that do suicide bombings if they don't repent sincerely for what they have done.
aldinzilic 2 years ago
aldinzilic: Brother, it is Pakistan, Bangladesh & Indonesia where Ahmadiyya mosques are being down. So-called Muslims are committing such crimes that even non-Muslims are not even committing.
dawah2 2 years ago
Hadhrat Ahmad (as) has NOT abandon even an iota from Quran or Sunnah. He said that the precondition of Jihad as mentioned in 22:40 do not exist in this era because NO one is imposing war on Muslims JUST BECAUSE THEY SAY ALLAH IS OUR LORD" 22:40 Thus religious wars can not be made till in this era.
Prophet Muhammad (saw) has also said that "Messiah to come will cease wars".
dawah2 2 years ago
Brother you are wrong I am from Bosnia and I lived through a war where People killed Muslims because they used to say Allah is our lord abd to say that does not exist in this era is completly wrong.
aldinzilic 2 years ago 2
aldinzilic: Brother, in general, the fighting today is for political reasons & not for someone say "Our Lord is Allah". The case of Bosnia is different. There the innocents were killed JUST because they were Muslim. This is the reason that our IV head supported Bosinains more than anyone else at that time. But in Palestine the fighting is for land & thus even Palestinian Christians fight alongwith Muslims against Israel. Promised Messiah had only abrogated Jihad of cutting throats by Mullahs.
dawah2 2 years ago
I feel and as do most Bosnians in Bosnians that the most support came from Muslim Brothers from Algeria, Tunisia, Saudia Arabia and other Muslim countries who came to Bosnia to help their brothers fight the people who have come to kill them. Humanitarian Aid is helpful brother but will not stop the enemy from killing you. That just goes to show that even in Modern Era Muslims are being killed for saying Our Lord is Allah and that physical Jihad is necessary.
aldinzilic 2 years ago
aldinzilic : Brother, Islam-Ahmadiyya was the first who helped their Bosnian Brothers & Sisters despite our very limited resources. Killing of Muslims JUST BECAUSE THEY SAY "ALLAH IS OUR LORD" is rare. However, whenever & where ever it will happen then Jihad of sword will become necessary. Promised Messiah was not to abrogate Jihad of sword rather he was to suspend it till needs arise.
dawah2 2 years ago
Bosnians are grateful for all the help they received be it humanitarian or other. I feel closer with the brothers who came to Bosnia to sacrifice their lives for the sake of Allah. It is the ultimate sacrifice. Every Muslim can give donations in Money and other materials, I respect and admire them all but a special place in my heart will always go to those Muslim brothers who sacrificed their lives to help their Muslim brothers.
aldinzilic 2 years ago
Brother, it is also a fact that Muslims are killing Muslims in the name of Jihad. Do you know what is happening in Pakistan?
There are people killing innocent non-Muslims civilians in the name of Jihad as well. Therefore NO one can deny that Jihad is also mis-used by many Muslims. Thus restrictions were necessary.
dawah2 2 years ago
The restrictions of Jihad have already been defined by Allah SWT and prophet Muhamad PBUH, The rules of engagement can be learned from his Sunnah and the Quran. Yes I agree some Muslims have deviated of the straight path and are using Jihad unjustly in their quest. I am aware of the situation in Pakistan, It greatly saddens me to see "Muslims" kill innocent civilians it shows how low our nation has gone. You cannot condole their actions in any way.
aldinzilic 2 years ago
aldinzilic: Brother, the restriction of Jihad are there in Quran but Majority of Muslims are NOT following Quran. 72 sects of Muslims have distorted the true understanding of Islam. And it is what Prophet (saw) had already foretold. Thus it was the necessity of the time that Allah has sent Mahdi & Messiah to revive the true understanding of Quran & Islam. The Prophet (saw) had warned the Muslims that they r going to split into 73 sects & to repeat similar mistakes as Jews did.
dawah2 2 years ago
aldinzilic : Is it not true that about the Majority of Mullahs (i.e72 out of 73) & their followers the Prophet (saw) said that ""A time will come when nothing will remain of Islam except its name and nothing will remain of the Quran except its inscription. Their mosques will be full but void of guidance. Their divines (Mullahs) will be the worst creatures under the sky; all the evil will be emerged from them and will revert to them." Mushkat
Is it NOT exactly what happening today in the world?
dawah2 2 years ago
aldinzilic: There was a time when there was compulsion in religion i.e people use force to change the faith. Thus whenever such situation will come in this era there will also be Jihad of sword but what Mullahs are doing in general is ABSOLUTELY NOT JIHAD.
dawah2 2 years ago
dawah2, do not be fooled by the media. The media has always been against Islam.
And dawah2, do you accept Elijah Muhammad as your messenger too??
IQ233 2 years ago
As I know Elijah Muhammad NEVER published/announced any claim regarding his being Prophet of Allah or Appointed one by Allah. Had he published/announced such claim & survived & his movement flourished after such clear announcement ONLY then he would have been a True Prophet. Because Quran tells us that anyone who attribute FALSE claim of being appointed one by Allah through His revelation is always destroyed.
dawah2 2 years ago
hey will then fight and a third (part) of the army would run away, whom Allah will never forgive. A third (part of the army), which would be constituted of excellent martyrs in Allahs eye, would be killed and the third who would never be put to trial would win and they would be conquerors of Constantinople. And as they would be busy in distributing the spoils of war (amongst themselves) after hanging their swords by the olive trees, t
aldinzilic 2 years ago
aldinzilic: Can the wars in this era be fought with swords? These Prophecies are definitely metaphoric & allegorical. Otherwise Muslim MUST take each & every word of it literally & DO NOT USE MODERN WEAPONS INSTEAD STICK TO SWORDS.
dawah2 2 years ago
why do my comments get blocked when i write them. Half of the evidence and information I write does not appear. I have never sworn or said any words which might be offensive.
aldinzilic 2 years ago
aldinzilic: There are too many of your posts available. I do not remember that if I had deleted any of your post/comment
dawah2 2 years ago
Imam Muslim (d.261/839) has narrated from Abu Hurayrah , that he heard Allahs Messenger saying,"The Last Hour would not come until the Romans would land at al-Amaq or in Dabiq. An army consisting of the best (soldiers) of the people of the earth at that time will come from Madina (to counterattack them). When they will arrange themselves in ranks,
aldinzilic 2 years ago
'Abdullah ibn 'Abbas said about Qur'an 4:159: "This verse is proof that Jesus (pbuh), son of Mary, will appear All of the People of the Book will believe in him before his death."108 Ibn Abbas one of the companions of the prophet
aldinzilic 2 years ago
aldinzilic: Brother, you are Absolutely wrong. Ibn-e-Abbas (ra) never said the WORDS which you have attributed towards him.
Talking about Jews, Allah says that "Allah set a seal upon them owing to their unbelief, so they shall not believe except a few" 4:155. thus according to this verse there will be few among Jews who will believe but Mullahs says opposite to what Quran says.
dawah2 2 years ago
Brther if you put in Hadith Jesus return in yahoo you will see the quote from Ibn Abbas regarding this. Further Hadith from Imam Tirmidhi that narrates that prophet PBUH says "Son of Maryam (Mary) will kill the Dajjal at the door of LUD." Imam Tirmidhi(d.279/857) then said "This is an authentic Hadith." Obviously he KILLS the Dajjal which the Hadith clearly states and in whch you dont believe as you dont believe in Fighting Physically (against your enemies) in Islam.
aldinzilic 2 years ago
aldinzilic: Brother, the Ahadith you are referring also says that Jesus will go after Dajjal (The Most Powerful Non-Believer Ever Existed) riding on horse & having a sword in his hand. Please for Allah sake think & use your brain. Can it be taken literally? Can now days most powerful enemy be killed while riding horse & having sword as weapon?
dawah2 2 years ago
In another verse of Quran Allah says that He will Exalt the those who accepted Jesus (as) over those who rejected him (i.e Jews) till the "Day Of Judgment". Thus we read that "I will exalt those who follow you above those who disbelieve, till Day of Resurrection. Then to Me is the ultimate destiny of all of you, then I will judge among you regarding your disputes." 3:55. In this verse Allah is clearly saying that dispute among Jews & Christians over Jesus will remain till "Day of Judgment"
dawah2 2 years ago
Please dont forget to quote the full verse which states previously "Oh Jesus! I will take thee and raise thee to myself and clear thee of those that blashpheme. Obviosly with accordance to the Sunnah of the prophet PBUH ISAA was raised by ALLAH SWT. This is one of the miracles, we can wait for his return.
aldinzilic 2 years ago
aldinzilic: Brother, there is absolutely no Hadith/sunah of Prophet (saw) (even week) saying that Jesus (as) was Raised Bodily by Allah.
You may wait but remember that this is the same mistake which Jews did or even doing till date - i.e waiting for an old Prophet to physically descend from heavens.
And remember, Prophet's (saw) warning that Muslims r going to repeat same mistakes (resemble) as Jews did. Despite this warning & similarity of situations if people r not taking lesson then....
dawah2 2 years ago
You talk about people rejecting them. That is true remember in Islamic hstory when prophet puh passed away a person called MUSAYLAMA callled himselfe the prophet. So Muslims in order to try to avoid being like the Jews should have accepted him as their prophet. No of course not there will be no more prophets. Muhammad PBUH was the last prophet. ISAA AS will not be a new prophet but the same prophet that was raised by Allah SWT
aldinzilic 2 years ago
aldinzilic: Remember that False Prophets are always destroyed. Had Hadhrat Ahmad of Qadian (as) also a False Prophet he must have destroyed along with his movement by now.
Hmadhrat Muhammad (saw) is NO doubt is the Final Prophet of Allah but the Messiah was also to appear among ummah in the capacity of subordinate prophet.
dawah2 2 years ago
Sura 4 v 157 Surely tthey killed him not,
v158 Allah raised him up onto himself. Allah is the most powerfull, most wise. Clearly Allah raised Jesus and put someone on his place this evidence is further supported in verse 159 from a well respected scholar Ibn HanafiyyaQur'an 4:159 in these terms: "He will descend before the Day of Judgment. All Jews and Christians will believe in him." this evidence is supported by many scholars including Al Hakam al Ghifari, Hassan Al Basri amongst others
aldinzilic 2 years ago
aldinzilic: Jews wanted to Kill Jesus (as) on the cross in order to proved him (Allah Forbid) a Cursed ONE. Because, Bible says that the one who is died upon the cross is a Cursed one. Therefore in 4:157 Allah is saying that Jews could NOT succeeded in Killing him on the cross Rather on the contrary Allah Exalted his status. Brother, Many great scholars e.g Imam Malik, Imam Ibn-e-Hazm etc have said that Jesus had died as well. Therefore, rather going after scholars v MUST consult Quran.
dawah2 2 years ago
aldinzilic: Quran as well as established laws of nature + modern researchers all says that Jesus (as) had survived crucifixion & later died like other human-beings. But it is strange that people prefer to live in myths & fairy tales.
Can you tell me that in which direction a Physical Body MUST travel to reach Allah? Is Allah limited in space like us so that one has to undertake a physical journey towards Him? FOR ALLAH SAKE JUST THINK!!
dawah2 2 years ago
Prophet pbuh never said that Jesus will live 120 years. In the Kuran it clearly states that Jesus has not "passed away". In the Hadith it is said that Jesus will rule the world for 40 years after his return.
aldinzilic 2 years ago
aldinzilic: Prophet (saw) did said that Jesus lived 120 years. In another Hadith the Prophet said "If Jesus & Moses would have ALIVE then they had to obey/follow me" Ref: (Tafseer-Ibn-e-Kathir).
Then indicating that Jesus to come will be different from the one who appeared among Israelite, the Prophet said "There will be NO Mahdi Except Essa" Thus confirming that the Jesus to come will be from among his followers.
dawah2 2 years ago
Imran ibn Hussain radiyallahu anhu narrates from the Noble Prophet Mohammed (peace & blessings be upon him), There will always be a group of people upon the path of Allah, overpowering their enemies until the Order Of Allah comes and Isa alaihis salaam (Jesus - peace be upon him) descends.
Clearly Jesus comes at the time of The Dajjal the one eyed liar nothing about different Jesus but the samE isaa AS that was taken up to the heavens. IF he is dead he cannot discend and kill the Dajjal.
aldinzilic 2 years ago
aldinzilic: We do not deny coming of Jesus. The actual controversy is whether 2,000 years OLD Jesus will come back or someone similar to him from Ummah will come under his name & title. There are too many evidences of someone else coming under his name & title. These includes:
1) Prophet's (saw) describing two diff appearances of two Jesus (Bukhari)
2) Prophet (saw) categorically saying that "There will be NO Mahdi Except Issa"
3) Even scholars like Imam Malik saying that Jesus had died.
dawah2 2 years ago
aldinzilic : Can you quote a single verse of Quran saying that Jesus (as) had NOT passed away? I can quote many verses of Quran certifying that Jesus is NO more physically alive nor he can return to this world.
dawah2 2 years ago
Again Prohet PBUH NEVER SAID JESUS LIVED FOR 120 YEARS where is this Hadith????? WHO NARATED IT? it is not genuine it must be a weak hadith
aldinzilic 2 years ago
aldinzilic : Brother, it is a matter of point of view. Because, those who believe that Jesus (as) has Physically raised to Allah say that this Hadith is week. While those who believe that he had died like all human-beings believe it to be strong Hadith conforming Quran as well as established laws of Nature.
dawah2 2 years ago
Yes that time is not here the time when the noble Quran will be raised from the Earth is the time after Isaa A.S has passed away. Is Ghulam Ahmed Jesus? No Because Jesus will appear in the middle east (Damascus) and he will lead prayer for the Muslims before he goes and vanquishes the Dajjal
aldinzilic 2 years ago
Brother, it is clearly mentioned that Promised Messiah will appear TO THE EAST OF DAMASCUS and not in Damascus. And Qadian is exactly to the east of Damascus.
dawah2 2 years ago
It is very clear that it will be in Damascus NOT east of Damascus. ("Isa", Encyclopedia of Islam) please refer to wikipedia also that supports the theory. "Jesus will descend at the point of a white arcade IN Damascus, dressed in yellow robes - his head anointed. He will then join the Mahdi in his war against the Dajjal". Type in Jesus in Islam in wikipedia and you will see it under the paragraph of second coming.
aldinzilic 2 years ago
watch this video {watch?v=WD12qA1tKkI} & you will be amazed to know that NOT ONLY various Ahadith but also Gospel describe "East" as the place of coming of Messiah. The Hadith of Muslim clearly says that He will descend on the white minaret TO THE EAST OF DAMASCUS.
dawah2 2 years ago
From the east is where the Dajjal will first come to the Earth Near Iran or Qadian maybe. Again you seem to go on about being east of Damascus, this is wrong It will be in Damascus. The hadith you used has been misquoted by you. You have completly disregarded other prophecies like the killing of the Dajjal the physical attributes of the Dajjal, The signs of the Dajjal which the Muslims believe, ISA AS will ascend in the same form as he was taken from this Earth.
aldinzilic 2 years ago
aldinzilic: Brother, prophecies about future are mostly based on visions or dreams & Quran tells us that visions/dreams requires interpretation & cannot be taken literally. Brother, is it NOT a fact that Jews are still rejecting Jesus (as) as Messiah because the Biblical Prophecies about him have NOT yet fulfilled literally? You will be amazed to watch Jews raising EXACTLY same objections against Jesus as today Muslims r doing against their Messiah {watch?v=HbMO_zWp_lo}
dawah2 2 years ago
Gospels have been altered by the christians.
Obviously you don't really seem to beleive in Hadith as you have completely disregarded the authentic hadith regarding Dajjal and his appearance. You seemed to have mixed up Jesus with the Mehdi and changed the hadith to say east of Damascus rather than in Damascus
aldinzilic 2 years ago
aldinzilic : Dear, distortion and alteration of understanding of scriptures is NOT limited to previous People. The Prophet (saw) had said that Muslims are going to do exactly the same. thus portraying this age the Prophet (saw) said
"A time will come when nothing will remain of Islam except its name and nothing will remain of the Quran except its inscription. Their mosques will be full but void of guidance. " Mushkat
dawah2 2 years ago
Brother, I have Not mixed-up Mahdi with Jesus. rather Prophet (saw) himself said that
"There will be NO Mahdi except Issa" Ibn-e-Majjah
Ibn-e-Majja is among the six authentic book of Hadith. In addition, In Bukhari also the Prophet described two different appearances of the two Jesus. i.e. the One whom he saw among all passed away Prophets & the One who was to come in future. So, can you explain that why the appearances r different. And Why Inb-e-Majja says that Mahdi 7 Jesus r same?
dawah2 2 years ago
if You Really Follow our Holy Prophet Muhammad (Saw)...you should Also Follow his Hadiths...coz he even Said..."Jesus Live To The Age of 120".
Meaning he has Passed Away.
RealAhmadiyyat 2 years ago
Brother the prophet swt also said on his final sermon before he passed away "O People, NO PROPHET OR APOSTLE WILL COME AFTER ME AND NO NEW FAITH WILL BE BORN"
" I leave behind me two things, the Quran and my example the SUNNA and if you follow these you will never go astray."
aldinzilic 2 years ago
aldinzilic: This is what we (Ahmadi-Muslims) also believe that NO Prophet with a NEW FAITH will ever come. Whoever, will come will be subordinate of Muhammad (saw) as also promised in 4:69.
Brother the Prophet (saw) also foretold that "A time will come when nothing will remain of Islam except its name and nothing will remain of the Quran except its inscription...." Mushkat
And for such dark age the Prophet (saw) also told about coming of subordinate Prophet under the name of Jesus.
dawah2 2 years ago
yes but what about Jesus killing Dajjal??
Who did Ahmad Qaddiyani kill for the sake of Islam?
oh yes he did however, Abolished the concept of Jihad!!
rafay1122 2 years ago
Promised Messiah has killed Dajjal by proving that False Lord of Christians is NOT alive in heavens rather he is buried in Kashmir. Quran also tells us that the one who is defeated by clear proofs is the who is perished or Killed. Thus Quran says "he who would perish (Killed) might perish by clear proof 8:42
Jesus (as) migrating to Kashmir & his burial there is a fact which now even Christians Schlars & Historians are also compelled to admit. For proof watch {watch?v=9DXCZFRsyl8}
dawah2 2 years ago
its always the indians n pakis who start all this isnt it.... i remembr i wz in mecca n this guy never used to pray there when askd why he said " my prayer will not get accepted if i dont pray behind my imam".. so dumb isnt it...n he ws frm india or pak ..i know its weird to say that here ... but not all mullas are proper.
i think zakir naik is proper...he knows what he talks about.... his knowledge is jus 2 good...if i do get to talk to him ill ask him abt this..
salam..take it easy
ackhmedhameed 2 years ago
It was Prophet (saw) who foretold that Messiah to descend to the east of Damascus & Qadian is exactly to the east of Damascus. About the rest of Islam at that time the Prophet (saw) said "A time will come when nothing will remain of Islam except its name and nothing will remain of the Quran except its inscription. Their mosques will be full but void of guidance. Their divines (Mullahs) will be the worst creatures under the sky; all the evil will be emerged from them and will revert to them."
dawah2 2 years ago
Most sunni scholars do not believe the Dajjal has come. It is very clear in discription of what the Dajjal will look like. Obviously if the Dajjal has not come then the Mehdi is not with us. Also Imam Mahdi will lead the army against the Dajjal which is quiet difficult since Ahmediyas don't believe in war.
aldinzilic 2 years ago
aldinzilic: Many non-Ahmadi scholars admits that "ALL THE SIGNS OF IMAM MAHDI HAS BEEN FULFILLED" as shown in this video as well. You are right that Mahdi was to lead the war against Dajjal - but you are ignoring the fact that war is also fight with arguments. Promised Messiah (as) has defeated Dajjal by proving from Bible as well as history that the false God of Christians had survived crucifixion & later died & buried in Kashmir.
dawah2 2 years ago
Sorry but you are wrong MOST respected scholars and Muslims in the world DO NOT BELIEVE THE IMAM MAHDI, has come and the antichrist has come. The description of the war is very descriptive and the way Dajjal dies by being killed and thats not by words but by a weapon. Hence the full story of the Dajjal and the miracles he performs and the signs leading up to that are ignored? Do you really believe that the Dajjal has been and died?
aldinzilic 2 years ago
aldinzilic: Brother, there is NO compulsion in religion. If you take things differently earnestly then your matter is with your Allah. Only He is the final Judge. Allah knows that we earnest take prophecies metaphoric because we know that earlier Jews also took prophecies too literally & thus deprived of accepting their Messiah. For Proof watch {watch?v=HbMO_zWp_lo}. Brother, did Prophet (saw) not warned that Muslims are going to commit exactly same mistakes as Jews did (i.e Exactly resemble)?
dawah2 2 years ago
Brother you do not relise that prophet warned us about the false prophets that will come after him. Look at Islamic History and see how many false prophets came. How wars were fought against individuals who claimed to be given the prophethood. They also made fake prophecies and tried to make their own books which where full of fallacies. Coming of Jesus will be a miracle just like his Birth.
aldinzilic 2 years ago
aldinzilic: Brother, we realize that Prophet (saw) warned us about False Prophets. But it is your Mullahs who do not realize that Prophet (saw) also foretold that "thing r going to happen to my ummah as it happened to Israelite" Thus a Jesus like Prophet was to appear among Muslims teaching against blood-shed & the Ummah was to reject him like Jews rejected Jesus as their Messiah.
dawah2 2 years ago