World's Deadliest Aircraft - B-29 Superfortress Part 1

[mikeiscoold]

this reminded me of Fallout New Vegas

[VladimirSmirnov1]

Tomorrow in Tokyo, its going to rain...

[alekzander2010]

Brits got Jets USA got Atom bombs Germans Got V2´s (and jets)

wonder what the russians and japs hade...

[wsgchopper]

@alekzander2010 did you get that from battlefield BC2 or are you serious

[alekzander2010]

@wsgchopper am serious lol

but this did remind me of BC2

but really every antion ahd something

[ThePartyboy8]

fuck all whothinks this sucks

[vlad007001]

the b29 would beat the shit out the b2

[spanish111japan]

@vlad007001 B-52 Would beat both lol

[TheBluecow12]

and, the atomic bomb was built on the principles of the german V2, that had the power of about 200 B29's dropping their full payload in one area

[TheBluecow12]

saying that the B-29 was the most expensive gamble of WW2 is absolute idiocy as the Germans had '' Die Glocke '' (The Bell), and the designing and making that not only cost them tons of precious time, Mercury, and Steel and also men, as every launch resulted in 2 to 3 deaths of the scientists during the launch, it cost them not 3 billion dollars, but 10 billion dollars.... once again, the stupid propaganda steps in saying the americans have made the most expensive weapon of WW2.

[TheBluecow12]

@TheBluecow12 and the stupid thing is that today, in 2011, no scietists have yet managed to make an anti-gravitational object the size af a massive church bell, but the german scientists in 1943 could.....

[TheMexOfAmerica]

@TheBluecow12 no one gives a shit... and maybe scientest dont have use for a giant floating church bell hahaha

[DdosAllday]

Disgraceful Atomic Bombs

[TR0L0L0LO]

B-52 tops this, no questions, although the B-29 is equally sexy.

[ACletthereberockDC]

@TR0L0L0LO Well no shit, that's like saying the A-10 Warthog tops the P-47

[TheUnique3]

The more commercials they push on us, the more we go to other brands.

We have now over 3000 people involved.

[GhostRecon756]

Japan dropped 1,000 bombs on Pearl Harbor, yet we beat the Japs with only 2 :)

[i8thefood]

@GhostRecon756 Not really.

I don't think the firebomb of tokyo counts as 2 bombs. :/

[TheUSA1945]

The Japanese started the war with sneak attack and we finished it with atomic bomb.They got what they deserved.B-29 is awesome plane.

[CapKorzeniowski]

"World's Deadliest Aircraft " - fuck! that's one sick title!

[FutureDJHero]

We need to use this aircraft NOW on the middle east!!!!!!!!

[23Daant]

I bet if we dropped this many bombs in the Afgan, we wouldn't have such a big issue with terrorists

[jwaldopepper]

In Hiroshima there is a monument at ground zero. On that monument there is this inscription from the Mayor of the city. .........What da fuck was dat!

[yugiohbros115]

did not the little boy and fat man atomic bombs end the war in pacific?????????????

[AILUGO]

@yugiohbros115 yes, but the B-29 delivered the atomic bombs

[1192tepodon]

This is an airplane disliked most in Japan.

[c2monke]

The second one was also known as "Doc". I saw it at an airshow they restored it, I have a picture of it in my room.

[sdkfz162kingtiger]

3 billion doller for a fucking bomber?!

there is nothing special. no super speed, or ammo, or stealth things.

why it was so expensive???

[orcstr8d]

Imagine for a second that you are Emperor Hirohito. If you could spend $3 billion to keep the b-29 from destroying all your major cities, would you spend it?

[sdkfz162kingtiger]

@orcstr8d BILLION DUDE BILLION!!! i mean million is enough, but billions?! unbelieveable

[orcstr8d]

sdkfz162kingtiger, the V2 program was Germany's most costly project of the war, estimated at $ 2 billion US- 1944 dollars. Whoever said war isn't costly?

Both projects yielded many technological advancements, for better or worse.

There were an estimated 400 K Allied PoWs in Japanese hands when the war ended who were likely to starve or be murdered by the time a COSTLY invasion happened.

$ 5 bil (b-29 + atomic program) divided by 400,000 (Allied civ and mil pows) = $ 1250.00 USD. Worth it.

[TRUMPHENT]

@sdkfz162kingtiger 3 Billion dollars in 1944 dollars yielded raids that were conducted by up to 833 B-29 bombers. That's a lot of really big planes all flying at the same time.

[hwoods01]

@ Orcstr8d.. The B-29 was only one weapon system in the 'armada' of allied power.. Remember, Japan is an island and can only systain itself off of imports - Even if japan could somehow hold off B-29's. Eventually Allied sea power would litterally 'starve' the country to submission. Without Oil/Steel/Coal/ect.. Japan would have been reduced to fighting with sharp sticks, bow and arrows, and slings.

[orcstr8d]

Of course it was only one. And the cost in American lives invading island by island so that ALL aircraft that overflew Japan had bases to take off from was the real cost in that war. The USN blocked them at sea, the USAAF isolated them on land.

[hwoods01]

Yea, lots of lives lost invading islands held by japanese...  Lots of lives wasted it seems today... I wonder if it would have been far better just to isolate these islands and 'starve' the japs out than to hold a costly costal invasion.. Peleliu for example just seemed pointless to me & considering the sheer will to fight to the death the Japs possessed. Isolation and starvation will take the fight out of anyone eventually...

[orcstr8d]

We bypassed some and left them to "die on the vine" like Wake and Rabaul. I think back then many were wanting Japan to pay for Pearl Harbor, and hadn't forgotten about rescuing MacArthur and Wainwright's troops of Bataan.

[hwoods01]

@ sdfz162kingtiger, Remember the plane was developed in 1940's... It was very special in those days. fly at altitudes that bombers never reached before 30,000+ feet.. Fighters had a difficult time combating aircraft at that alititude for two reasons, #1) high wing loading, #2) most Japanese aircraft were naturally aspirated - meaning they lost power as the altitude increased. Also, being so high, most anti-aircraft artillery couldnt fire shells that high.. This was an amazing plane.

[grahamkeithtodd]

@sdkfz162kingtiger becuase at the time it was unknown how it would stand up at those high allituides...the engines where a new design,the radar was new,as where the bombshights,all in all a good design apart from the engines tending to catch fire once in a while!

[sdkfz162kingtiger]

@grahamkeithtodd how high could it fly?

[grahamkeithtodd]

@sdkfz162kingtiger to be honist old son i have no idea... i belive(and i might very well be wrong about this) 23,000 feet?

[WrathofWotan]

@sdkfz162kingtiger

33,000 feet was the ceiling. don't you people know about google? it provides a wealth of information at your fingertips - wonderful little invention!

[Agomongo1235]

did they ever deploy it in europe theater plz reply

[hwoods01]

@ agomongo1235: No.. for two reason, #1 By the time the B-29 was 'online', the war in europe was decidedly in Allied hands, and #2) The distance from the first airfields to Japan was only accessable by one bomber, the B-29.. bombers demanded

[panga3a]

On 0000hrs Manchurian time on 9 August 1945, the Russians entered the Pacific War, attacking the Japanese armies in northeastern China.

Japan had not had a land invasion in 1000 years - the Mongol fleet in 1282AD was smashed by a Typhoon, hence the name Kamikaze. The Japanese home islands despite the American air raids were thought to be impregnable. The Russian invasion changed that. The atomic bomb helped end the war, but more than anything Japan didn't want to be conquered by a foreign power

[dongisselbeck]

The British Avro Lancaster could also have carried atom bombs.

[flightrulez]

It could have carried it in it's bomb bay, but simply did not have enough power to do so.

[Ralroost]

How not? It had a payload of 12 000 pounds if i remember

[flightrulez]

it might have been able to, seeing that the bomb wieghed 9000 pounds, but it simply would not have the range to get across an ocean, origanally the bomb was meant for Berlin, but since the war was over they ended up dropping the two they had on Negasaki, and Heroshima.

[grahamkeithtodd]

@flightrulez er how so? the AVRO LANCASTER ended up carring 10 ton bombs...TALLBOYS!

the first designed of Atomic weapons FATMAN and LITTLE BOY did not wighe as much!

[flightrulez]

@grahamkeithtodd Big deal, a bomb that has about 15,000 pounds of explosives to destroy 6-8 city blocks, how about a 5000 pound bomb able to destroy a whole city?

I think I would go nuclear rather than using a 20,000 pound bomb, personally I loved the Avro Lancaster and the Halifax over any other bomber of WWII, just for the fact that Canada flew them =D.

And because they were good at shit kicking the Germans.

[grahamkeithtodd]

@flightrulez strangely the TALLBOY bombs did not use their explosive power to destroy coty blocks,but relised on the small fact that be dropping them near a target,the shockwave did all the dirty work for it! and lets face it,a LANCASTER could carry a hell of a load...any way why use a sledgehammer to crack a nut? remember we did not have any ATOM BOMBS...

[flightrulez]

@grahamkeithtodd The Lancaster could barely hold the tallboy, they had to remove the weapons bay cover, just to fit the damned thing in there, but it was still under the lancaster's payload limit =D

[grahamkeithtodd]

@flightrulez anyway fyi a TALLBOY was over 22000 lbs.. that is TEN TONS! more then enough to ruin your day just by beening dropped in your nighbourhood!

[flightrulez]

@grahamkeithtodd But it was only 5000 lBs of Explosives.

[ctforce0076]

@grahamkeithtodd So why not carry a 100 ton bomb that explodes like a firecracker?

[grahamkeithtodd]

@ctforce0076 at the time(and even more so nowadays) the very idea of a "100 ton bomb" is just rediculous to say the least!even the best heavy duty planes in use right now can not carry such a load!

[binaway]

@dongisselbeck Not the distance required. The further you go the more fuel load and less bombs load. The Lancaster could also not have escaped the blast and would also have been destroyed. It would have been a suicide mission for the crew.

[djisadj1]

my grandpa flew it in ww II

[woody3757]

wow, hes lucky to fly such a beastly plane

[djisadj1]

yep

[grahamkeithtodd]

@djisadj1 your grand dad has my thanks mate.. a true HERO in my book!

[Rcracer867]

Both of the B-29's were made right here in Nebraska.

[tak0242424]

i would shit myself if i c those over my head

[CoastJumper]

did'nt japan surrender because they feared an atomic bomb will hit a major city called tokyo?

[eus478]

@CoastJumper: Tokyo was already more damaged then Hiroshima and Nagasaki together in a conventional firestorm caused by B-29s, blind-bombing by night from lower altitude.

[ZIPPIBOY12345]

how scary would it be to look up into the sky and see an armada of B-29s blowing the fucking shit out of your country

[SatoshiMatrix1]

@ZIPPIBOY12345 not to mention the noise the planes made alone even without all the explosions from the bombs.

[WrathofWotan]

@ZIPPIBOY12345

yes, and how horrible it would be to look over the hill and see the Japanese Imperial Army invading your country to rape, murder, pillage, plunder and burn everything in sight. The Japanese EARNED the fire bombings and atomic bomb from 1937-1945 with their mindless rape of Asia, and we were lucky enough to be chosen to deliver the packages - AIRMAIL!! In war, the loser always sows the seeds of it's own defeat.

[Polybun]

@ZIPPIBOY12345 ask a german :D

[Michael0114PS3]

@ZIPPIBOY12345 Replace B-29 with AC130s

[BlackBirdZGTR]

Shouldent the credit for which aircraft contributed most to the pacific war be given to the hellcat and corsair? It was because of them and their ability to completely outclass the A6M zero that the war in the pacific was able to end quickly along with Japanese inability to come out with a successor.

[baelsharon]

well the b-29 could shoot all 3 down like cake . . . so yeah it does get deadliest aircraft out of all 3 fighters. But I see your point, many factors go into winning a war and the b-29 was just one of them.

[1stUSMarine]

when the 2nd Atomic Bomb drop on August 9,it was my Country National Day n oso my birthday...=' )

[riceicles123]

the first plane which could drop nukes

[bubbsy12]

i am writing an essay on this plane and do you no any facts that i could in my essay???

[de4th1snt3nough]

It's total kickass thats a fact

[snowboredsnj]

That's right, who needs laser guided bombs when you can flatten an entire city with conventional bombs and incendiaries.

[de4th1snt3nough]

Yea and get the job done once and for all lol right on

[taylortownmayor]

Simply a beautiful aircraft! The lines of a B-29B or Silverplate, without turrets, are amazing.

[HELCRAXE]

i still like ships though