There are different tiers of graphics for each part of Forza. Like the Autovista has the highest tier of graphics, Tier 2 graphics go to your cars displayed behind the menue, tier 3 graphics goes to the replays, and tier 4 graphics go to the actual "in gameplay". So basically you are looking at the tier 3 graphics of Forza as opposed to the tier 4 graphics which I think they should have put more work into because it is the most important part.
@VColossalV didnt you look at the video? the graphics are nowhere near close to looking real, hundreds of games look more realistic than it, nfs shift, nfs shift 2, GT3, GT4, GT5p, GT5 psp, GT5, iRacing...etc
@megaspeed2 I have the game you moron, Forza is widely considered to have the best graphics or any racing game ever made, this is a fact- reviews from professonal critics agree, hence the 10/10s. Try looking at som other videos, you clearly have no idea what you are talking about and have clearly never played Forza.
@megaspeed2 Look at this link and tell me the graphics are bad-
watch?v=NQi7SE0Rkbc
Paste that shit.
Can't even believe you are comparing it to NFS games, what a joke lmfao- Forza boasts the best graphics on any game i have ever played, and i HAVE played most of those you listed, what a crock of shit.
@megaspeed2 Dude, look at some trailers and autovista footage, and some gameplay... you don't even undertand how ignorant you sound to me, if you haven't played the game... this video isn't very good quality like its recorded with an actual camera on a tv...
@VColossalV I dont need to have played a game to be able to comment on its graphics, ive looked at plenty of pictures and videos from forza 4 and in my unbiased opinion i think that the images are smoother and better antialiased but the reflections arent as good as many other games ive played. if i was talking about gameplay, physics, fun factor and stuff like that then yes i would need to have played it but this is graphics, wether its on my xbox or on google images it looks the same.
@megaspeed2 Well clearly you are biassed, or the professional critics that rate this game 10/10, who highly high praise the graphics in particular are somehow wrong, because i've played GT5, unimpressed by the graphics of the scenery and the lack of customization that Forza has, rFactor i have never played, but have seen a few videos and to be honest wasn't impressed at all, graphics wise.
@VColossalV First rFactor is a 5 year old game so talking about its graphics is irrelevant, (although with some mods and the right tracks and cars the graphics can be up to 2009-2010 standards) but thats beside the point. I think that you are being a bit ignorant now, i said that forza has better antialiasing but not very good reflections and in my opinion reflections are more important. wheres the biasing in that?
@megaspeed2 Explain how the reflections aren't good? It obviously can't be the lack of reflections. I see no problem there, polished cars are that shiny in real life... it's meant to be like that, never heard anyone actually criticize the graphics even from professional critics let alone the reflections...
@VColossalV I sent you a private message a while ago with 3 images, one from GT5, one from real life and one from forza 4, i tryed to get them all from similar lighting conditions so that they look the same and... well i dont need to tell you what you can see very clearly. the forza image looks nothing like the others whereas the GT5 and RealLife pictures look very similar in comparison. (I cant post the link on this comment because youtube blocks links on video comments)
@megaspeed2 Just looked at the picture, and Forza looks better i don't know what you're talking about - the reflection on the Forza picture is great, you can see the lights reflection from the ceiling of the garage, which is why in the pictures of cars in the garage have white reflections, it''s because there are lights above the car... infact GT5 has too little reflection which to be honest is worse than too much reflection, even though i think it's just right in Forza.
@megaspeed2 In real life, if there was a polished car in a garage that had lights on the ceiling above the car, it would show similar reflections... I have seen pictures also biassed against GT5 that show Forza 4 to be much better in comparison, if you really want to, you can make any game look better than another in a picture by taking things out of conext. At the end of the day, GT5 got 8/10's because it lacks alot of features, Forza 4 gets mostly 10/10s, 9/10s are the worst.
@VColossalV Nothing was taken out of context, i specificaly found images that look fromt he same angle of the car and with similar ammount of light on the cars so that they can be comparable, it would be out of context if i had one pic in the night, one in the day and one under a tunnel. Also you listen to reviewers? 95% of "pro gaming critics" are biased, they give 9-10/10's to every xbox game that ever comes out. have you ever played GT5? if you did you wouldnt hide behind reviewers opinions..
@megaspeed2 "they give 9-10/10's to every xbox game that ever comes out"
Uhh, nope... another thing pulled out your ass. It's typical for you to claim that just because it gets near perfect scores that it must be biassed or a forged rating or something, it isn't at all biassed to assume GT5 has legitimate non-biassed reviews and Forza must get fake biassed reviews... very hypocritical of you.
@VColossalV geez its called exaggeration (not pulling things out of my ass) and i didnt make any comment on if GT5 gets fair reviews or not because i have never read any, i find out weather i like games by either playing them or at the very least watching parts of a playthrough. anyway why are we talking about other peoples reviews? they are other people opinions based on them having played the game for a few hours. any gamer knows not to trust them.
@megaspeed2 Well alot people tend to look at reviews on a game to judge wether it is good or not. Maybe that an opinion could be subjective if it was just ONE review that got good ratings, but ALL reviews from ALL publications give very similar ratings, some of which go very indepth in their reviews. Reviews this consistant from many seperate publications must mean something.
In the Forza picture it is in the garage, with artificial lights all along the ceiling, those are the white reflections in which your argument there was based on, both of the GT5 pictures and the real life picture are on the track while the Forza picture was in the garage- your only argument when you sent the picture was the reflections, which in those conditions real life would be like that, not non-reflective like GT5 cars.
@VColossalV err, what? i think you misunderstood, the left image is GT5 and the middle is real life, there isnt more than one GT5 image in the picture i sent you. (Btw the GT5 image i took myself ingame and the real life image was from a motorsport site so dont go claiming that i took both from the game to make them look similar.)
@megaspeed2 also i will try and find a forza4 image with better, more similar conditions to prove it. i only made the image in a rush last time so i couldnt find one that was perfect.
@megaspeed2 Yeah mate, look at the link i sent in your inbox and get embarrassed, lists and lists of the downfalls of GT5, good luck playing a game that 4/5s of the cars have shitty graphics and no interiors, be my guest.
@VColossalV the review you sent me.. biased much? the only real gt5 problem that review shows is the loading times, which arent too bad anyway. i dont know what they were talking about with the game being unsmooth either,it only drops below 60fps for a split second at the start of races with 16 premium cars and even then u dont notice it that much. both forza and gt have terrible dammage so why compare them? standard cars are still fun to drive, the online mode does all it needs to, start races.
@megaspeed2 "both forza and gt have terrible dammage so why compare them?"
GT5 doesn't have good damage, you even have to unlock the little damage it does have - in Forza, there is alot more damage... not exactly like real life obviously, but still very realistic for a video game.
@VColossalV actually theres hundreds of games which beat both GT5 and Forza down to a pulp with their dammage simulations, GTR, Race07, rFactor, Live for speed and iRacing are a few of the best for it, even a free to play game called LevelR (sometimes known as Project Torque or Heat Online) has better dammage then both gt5 or forza4) so there is no point in comparing the dammage of them both.
@megaspeed2 Never said other games didn't have better damage, i'm only saying Forza has better damage than GT5 specifically. I'd hardly say there were "hundreds though".
@VColossalV well you did say "very realistic for a video game." which implies that not many games are better for it.
iRacing,Liveforspeed,rFactor,rFactor2, GTR, GTR Evo, Race 07, Race on, LevelR, WRC, Dirt series, Toca race driver, GRID, F1 2011, NFS Shift and Shift 2, and need for speed pro street all have better dammage, thats 18 games so its not hard to imagne theres many more with better dammage simulations.
@megaspeed2 Have you not seen Forza 4 damage when simulation damage is turned on? The car damages mechanically too, if you for example play with manual w/clutch, and you change gear without using the clutch correctly you will damage the gearbox etc, if you shift down gears at high speed that will compltely fuck the gearbox up just like it would in real life, pretty much anything interanally can get damaged and effects the driving accordingly.
@VColossalV also the picture comparisons on the review you showed me showed the standard cars of gt5 vs the normal forza cars... thats not a graphicsal comparison of the game, thats a graphics comparison of GT2 vs Forza4.. tbh the GT2 cars look better than in forza4 anyway lol, atleast they dont look like toys in GT2.
@megaspeed2 Yes, and 4/5s of the cars are standard, god i cant imagine how terrible that is... not only that but a good chunk of them are japanese cars that nobody cares about... Forza has around 600 cars... ALL of which are consistant. I laughed so hard when i saw that GT5 has GT2 graphic cars even in some of the standard cars. This among alot of other reasons is WHY Forza 4 will always get 10/10s, and GT5 will continuously get bad reviews and 8/10s.
@VColossalV you go on and on and on about reviews, dont you have your own opinions? opinions you get from what you have read in reviews dont count, you need to actually atleast watch some videos of GT5 before you can say anything about its graphics, a reviewer saying "its bad" isnt good enough. do some research before you comment again...
@megaspeed2 I form my own opinions, i don't like a game based on reviews, but reviews speak for themselves and generally you can judge before you buy a game wether it is good or not based on its ratings- not that i do this. These are professionals who go very in depth in their analysis and it is their jobs to critique games, they have no bias. I have seen enough GT5 videos, i am not saying it's a bad game, an 8/10 is still good, but 10/10s aren't given away for nothing.
@megaspeed2 No i didn't misunderstand, i was meant to say "both the GT5 picture AND the the real life picture" - i did not read the comment back, so no i didn't mean there were 2 GT5 pictures, that was my bad for not checking my comment.
@megaspeed2 Also, in GT5, only about 250 of the cars are premium, the rest of the 750 are compied straight from GT4 and have PS2 graphics, there are also PS2 graphic tracks, i couldn't play a game that inconsistant, and i would get bored of the game very fast with the lack of customization and online community- how it took 6 years to make is beyond me. Never in my life have i played a racing game as good as Forza, and i fell in love with the game right from the start.
@VColossalV Oh and btw before you say "you said you dont need to have played the game" back then we were talking about graphics but now you have changed to gameplay so no im not being hypocritical (thx for changing the subject cuz u lose :D)
@megaspeed2 Our argument is about which game is better, there is no "subject". My argument is valid, it is a fact that 3/4's of the cars are PS2 graphics copied from GT4, same with some tracks.
@VColossalV 1. we were arguing about the graphics only. 2. you dont have to drive the other 800 cars if u want and 3. NONE of the tracks are copied over from GT4 to GT5 they are all made from scratch for GT5.
@MrStig691 Yes, 800 cars (4/5s of all the cars) are PS2 graphics, and they have no interior, which is fucking awfull, look how terrible the non-premium cars look compared to the premium ones, i could not play a game with this much inconsistancy.
@MrStig691 the 1,000 car number breaks down into 800 Standard cars that use the PlayStation 2 car models and 200 Premium cars that are full PS3 cars (with cockpit views) that are a pain in the ass to unlock.
Even on Amazon, where even terrible products look good, it states in Key Features that the 830 non-premium cars are pasted from previous games. Only the 170 premium cars (which you unlock, wow.) have PS3 graphics with interiors, how AWFULL.
@megaspeed2 If you look at other cars they look even better. The reflections are realistic, look at some other autovista cars. The graphics are the main thing critics praise about the game, obviously everything else is great too- but the quality of this video somehow doesn't portray the actual graphics. I nearly pulled my hair out when i saw the comment saying GT3/4 had better graphics, GT5 probably equals it in how te cars looks, but the scenery is GT is awfull.
How come they didn't get the camera view not so similarly-close? Well they did well though, but on the Follow-Through, why the heck they slanted the camera? And i know at some point where the camera shows the Stig inside, i think they should too in Forza 4, showing the driver inside. I mean, how hard can it be?
@TheStockCarStig I can assure you, you see PLENTY of body roll on non-modified cars on FM4. Make your final judgements on FM4 using only this video...at your own risk.
@razorfett147 I think they are mistaking body roll for suspension travel lol, as you feel body roll you dont see it, what you see is suspension, soft or hard
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Let's also not forget that Turn 10 utilized confidential real time tire data from Pirelli in formulating its physics model for FM4. When you want to paint the game's physics model with the broad "arcade" brush stroke based on what you THINK a real car with certain modifications should handle like, then you're pushing things into the realm of subjectivity...not facts.
@TDRrevenge Hi, yes as a player of Forza3, LiveForSpeed, Rfactor, i racing (yet to play 2.0), GTLedgends, GTR1, 2 and a few of the GT(sony) series I know that some games offer driving aids. I found F3 to be quite arcady and seeing all of these F4 video's (even of ppl playing with the FTwheels) this game still looks very much the same as F3. Surely not everyone's using the aids?? lol this vid looks as if they are comparing graphics/car speed/laptime. tbh.
@chrisbewrx Well considering that many comparison vids that have sprung up have the FM4 driver using the full driving line assist (something no self respecting Forza veteran would shame themselves by doing), then yea...it's not unreasonable to assume that alot of ppl are running these cars with the default assist settings. I can assure you, FM4's physics engine is vastly superior to FM3's...and compares quite favorably with GT5's driving model based on my experiences with all 3 games.
Video games wern't designed for realism and the goal for Forza was to make racing enjoyable for EVERYONE, considering that their competing neck and neck with a rival that has a 10+ year head start and released a WHOLE lot more then just 4 racing titles, I think Forza series deserves much more praise considering how noble their goal and achievements has been.
A racing game for people who love cars like a family dog, unlike GT were cars are just "tools" used by the player.
Game looks really nice!! but apearantly it needs more roll-over to make it just that little bit more realistic! But the graphics are so fine! Probably in a few years we can't even make the smallest difference between virtual and reality o_O
this video just points out how arcadey Forza still is, even after 4 games it still doesn't simulate understeer. Thats a cheap FF car, but forza makes it look like a Civic Type R. check the understeer in the RL car round the hammer head, then see Forza hug the inside line like the dude could pull 200kmph round there. lol
@WoahSalmo Sorry I guess I should have said realistically simulate understeer. I think any car game will push a car wide if you try to go too fast around a corner, but that dosen't make Need for Speed a car sim lol.
TBH it's hard to argue with the clear proof this video shows. There a multiple corners that show how far off Forza4 is compared to RL.
@chrisbewrx you do know there are various options a lot of people dont take any notice of, 1 option setting is realistic steering while the other is slightly assisted then you have TCS ABS STB ect turning those off would have resulted in a more realistic replay however the video isnt set to show the phyics of the game more to show the game vs the show, if TG have allowed forza to use their content as much as they allowed PD to use it last year does that make GT5 arcadey too !!!
@chrisbewrx How the fuck you get off saying Forza doesn't simulate understeer??? I've yet to drive a factory road car in FM2, FM3, or FM4 that didn't require some tuning to effectively rotate into turns without throttle oversteer or lift oversteer. You ppl who like to bag on Forza need to stop making assumptions based on replay vids. Lots of PC sims don't visually simulate these things, yet they are definitely felt when the player is driving the car.
@razorfett147 wow calm down dude... I am a player of F3 which I found to be a good game... But as far as saying it's a good Sim racer, you'd have to be drunk or a 10year old.... lol I found F3 ended up kinda boring me because the pyshics are made to be pick up and play and not realistic, if you find them to be life like, then good for you (are you drunk tho?)
Comparing my replays to F4's I cant see too many differences in the pyshics therfore I made the statement of "arcadey" sry lol
@chrisbewrx FM3's driving model had it's flaws, I don't dispute that. But we're talking about FM4 here, which has addressed many of the issues that 3 demonstrated in terms of physics. You are making a baseless assumption of FM4's driving model by watching a replay vid on Youtube. If you think you know more about this game's physics engine than someone (like me) who has spent well over 60 hours with the game since its release, then I think YOU'RE the one that's had a few too many to drink.
@razorfett147 There we go, a good couple of responces based on some form of knowledge, I still have my doubts from some of the vids I've seen (drift Vids using 900 degree) that turn ten haven managed to add a realistic feel to the game, it still looks like you can hold superman drifts without a chance of spinning etc. One of the reasons Forza is so popular, because its a game made for the skill level of ppl that drive FF cars to the shops every day, or 10 year olds lol.
@chrisbewrx I can atest to one thing...it's NOT that easy to hold a good drift in FM4 without spinning. It does take some degree of skill....particularly when stability management is not on. Most ppl who post vids of drifting on either FM3 or FM4 usually have some impressive drifting skills to show off. Someone like me, on the other hand, would be better served by NOT showing off vids of my drifting attempts. lol
Anyone realises that in Top Gear the Ceed has rollover cage, so when you drive around the track in FM4, your car is all wrond if it's completely stock... just mentioning.
@veryfewpsdtutorials Yes, you can. You even get an achievement called 'Star in a Reasonably Priced Car' for doing a lap of the Top Gear test track in a Kia Cee'd
7:26.70 lap time on Nürburgring Nordschleife set in 23 April 2009 by Nissan test driver Toshio Suzuki driving a Nissan GTR, now matched in a GT5 presented in splitscreen vs real life video 1:1, GT5 Nissan GTR equipped with Sports-Medium tires, no assists, with steering wheel and a nice large screen. Prove it yourself in GT5 :)
@theSchmaandrew I like a balance. Iracing is great and physics are only just beaten by a few other hardcore sims! F4 is close in physics enough that i'm happy with the compromise for the graphics/tracks/cars im interested in (no disrespect meant). As for people talking about GT5 you can tell theve never driven Iracer or even in really life its closer to segas crazy taxi than it is to Iracer. Normally im like who cares but people just make a full by saying GT5 physic are the most realistic!! :S
@ryanlbates01 All the real tracks are wider in forza, apparently is for the IA to cope with overtakes and stuff and as of GT5 they're milimetric accurate, i'm just saying...
@hiphoppolice55 You also know that there was only 149 people in total working on Gran Turismo 5, plus Kaz does 24hour racing so it was delayed by a few years because of that. Plus if I recall the Top Gear Test Track isnt scattered with random Tire Walls and cones to help the noob drivers. I know for a fact people will say I'm a fan boy but I'm not. I own both consoles and GT5 and all the Forza's. I just prefer GT5 over Forza since gt5 is more life like. How do I know? I drive a real car.
@AlloutStigGT5 "I drive a real car." I do as well, but more importantly, I race a real car. Do you race? Why I'm asking is, I feel Forza 4 is def more life-like. GT5 is fairly close, but Forza still wins with me. What traction setings do you leave on? I turn off everything except ABS depending on the car. I assume you are using a wheel, is it lifelike at all? Does it turn at least 900 degrees? Maybe though, it's our settings/steering wheel/tv refresh rate/etc that makes each game feel different.
@NUKLEUSBENZ You right i'm tired waiting a good racing game in the PS3 I think I'm gonna buy a cheap Xbox 360 and forza 4 to had a proper Bugatti Veyron
@hippiejesus909 and they were going into the final bend (Gambon) at the same angle and speed, yet when Clarkson said "The traditional Cee'D understeer" the Forza version didnt understeer at all.
Love the camera angles though they nailed them perfectly.
So, I can afford playing both (GT5 and F4) with a racing wheel and I can say this:
The racing wheel I have for the PS3 is way better than my xbox wheel, but Forza 4 is way more fun than GT5. My biggest problem with GT5 is the fact that I can't get matching cars for some of the races, which means I have to race the same races over and over again until a suitable car comes up at the used car dealer.
Stupid console wars, just because you can't afford to play both GT5 and Forza 4 doesn't mean that automatically one of them has to be shit. What's more is that you can tell because of that you haven't had a clear judgement to the other game simply because you haven't been able to play it.
I own GT5 and ps3 ..... personally I have no interest in owning an xbox for just one game because there is Nothing else the system has to offer that I want - but I will admit this looks so much better than GT5 and the difference is Turn10 is learning from the competition's mistakes and that's something Polyphony Digital has never done.....
@trineersmuk you know I might..... but if I do I'll wait till the xbox720 comes out then the 360 will be like 80 bucks.... keep in mind I wouldn't be playing this with a controller so I'd need to get a wheel as well.... so that's even more money
Wow don't believe this GT Forza war still goes on. I will honestly accept Forza is better looking and more fun for a game. However i don't think it can match the simulation levels of GT5.
@DriftK13 The simulation is so much better in forza as you get a much better feel for the car than gt5. i had a ps3 from the day it came out and when i played gt5 for the first time i went straight out and bought a 360 and forza 3, in my experience it is the best of the both.
@avanpal65 are you some kind of retard? GT5 did the shittest attempt at the Top Gear Track, and it took them 5 years. Forza took 1 year and made it ten times better than GT5. So suck my gonads.
I dont understand why would a ps3 owner watch this video at all? or comment on it for that matter. if PS3 and GT5 are better, go and enjoy it, why waste time commenting...
i think daveyskills would destroy stig.
cod4madass 5 days ago
Gt5 is still the best.
GoldenBadges 2 weeks ago
There are different tiers of graphics for each part of Forza. Like the Autovista has the highest tier of graphics, Tier 2 graphics go to your cars displayed behind the menue, tier 3 graphics goes to the replays, and tier 4 graphics go to the actual "in gameplay". So basically you are looking at the tier 3 graphics of Forza as opposed to the tier 4 graphics which I think they should have put more work into because it is the most important part.
luciferAir 2 weeks ago
nice
TheFiestyterrorist 2 weeks ago
Forza is #1 with no competition
Z28Tom402bigblock 3 weeks ago 3
@Z28Tom402bigblock gt5 is something though i prefer fm4 but cannot ignore gt5
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MrRodillo123 1 month ago
im too tired to read these huge comments
MrTechAss 1 month ago 5
wow @ how terrible the car looks in forza
megaspeed2 2 months ago
@megaspeed2 You wont find better graphics than that, bud. Forza has some of the best graphics ever.
VColossalV 2 months ago
@VColossalV didnt you look at the video? the graphics are nowhere near close to looking real, hundreds of games look more realistic than it, nfs shift, nfs shift 2, GT3, GT4, GT5p, GT5 psp, GT5, iRacing...etc
megaspeed2 2 months ago
@megaspeed2 I have the game you moron, Forza is widely considered to have the best graphics or any racing game ever made, this is a fact- reviews from professonal critics agree, hence the 10/10s. Try looking at som other videos, you clearly have no idea what you are talking about and have clearly never played Forza.
VColossalV 2 months ago
@megaspeed2 Look at this link and tell me the graphics are bad-
watch?v=NQi7SE0Rkbc
Paste that shit.
Can't even believe you are comparing it to NFS games, what a joke lmfao- Forza boasts the best graphics on any game i have ever played, and i HAVE played most of those you listed, what a crock of shit.
VColossalV 2 months ago
@VColossalV lol thats the funny thing, nfs games arent that good yet they have better graphics than forza lololol
megaspeed2 2 months ago
@megaspeed2 Dude, look at some trailers and autovista footage, and some gameplay... you don't even undertand how ignorant you sound to me, if you haven't played the game... this video isn't very good quality like its recorded with an actual camera on a tv...
VColossalV 2 months ago
@VColossalV I dont need to have played a game to be able to comment on its graphics, ive looked at plenty of pictures and videos from forza 4 and in my unbiased opinion i think that the images are smoother and better antialiased but the reflections arent as good as many other games ive played. if i was talking about gameplay, physics, fun factor and stuff like that then yes i would need to have played it but this is graphics, wether its on my xbox or on google images it looks the same.
megaspeed2 2 months ago
@megaspeed2 Well clearly you are biassed, or the professional critics that rate this game 10/10, who highly high praise the graphics in particular are somehow wrong, because i've played GT5, unimpressed by the graphics of the scenery and the lack of customization that Forza has, rFactor i have never played, but have seen a few videos and to be honest wasn't impressed at all, graphics wise.
VColossalV 2 months ago
@VColossalV First rFactor is a 5 year old game so talking about its graphics is irrelevant, (although with some mods and the right tracks and cars the graphics can be up to 2009-2010 standards) but thats beside the point. I think that you are being a bit ignorant now, i said that forza has better antialiasing but not very good reflections and in my opinion reflections are more important. wheres the biasing in that?
megaspeed2 2 months ago
@megaspeed2 Explain how the reflections aren't good? It obviously can't be the lack of reflections. I see no problem there, polished cars are that shiny in real life... it's meant to be like that, never heard anyone actually criticize the graphics even from professional critics let alone the reflections...
VColossalV 2 months ago
@VColossalV I sent you a private message a while ago with 3 images, one from GT5, one from real life and one from forza 4, i tryed to get them all from similar lighting conditions so that they look the same and... well i dont need to tell you what you can see very clearly. the forza image looks nothing like the others whereas the GT5 and RealLife pictures look very similar in comparison. (I cant post the link on this comment because youtube blocks links on video comments)
megaspeed2 2 months ago
@megaspeed2 Just looked at the picture, and Forza looks better i don't know what you're talking about - the reflection on the Forza picture is great, you can see the lights reflection from the ceiling of the garage, which is why in the pictures of cars in the garage have white reflections, it''s because there are lights above the car... infact GT5 has too little reflection which to be honest is worse than too much reflection, even though i think it's just right in Forza.
VColossalV 2 months ago
@megaspeed2 In real life, if there was a polished car in a garage that had lights on the ceiling above the car, it would show similar reflections... I have seen pictures also biassed against GT5 that show Forza 4 to be much better in comparison, if you really want to, you can make any game look better than another in a picture by taking things out of conext. At the end of the day, GT5 got 8/10's because it lacks alot of features, Forza 4 gets mostly 10/10s, 9/10s are the worst.
VColossalV 2 months ago
@VColossalV Nothing was taken out of context, i specificaly found images that look fromt he same angle of the car and with similar ammount of light on the cars so that they can be comparable, it would be out of context if i had one pic in the night, one in the day and one under a tunnel. Also you listen to reviewers? 95% of "pro gaming critics" are biased, they give 9-10/10's to every xbox game that ever comes out. have you ever played GT5? if you did you wouldnt hide behind reviewers opinions..
megaspeed2 2 months ago
@megaspeed2 "they give 9-10/10's to every xbox game that ever comes out"
Uhh, nope... another thing pulled out your ass. It's typical for you to claim that just because it gets near perfect scores that it must be biassed or a forged rating or something, it isn't at all biassed to assume GT5 has legitimate non-biassed reviews and Forza must get fake biassed reviews... very hypocritical of you.
VColossalV 2 months ago
@VColossalV geez its called exaggeration (not pulling things out of my ass) and i didnt make any comment on if GT5 gets fair reviews or not because i have never read any, i find out weather i like games by either playing them or at the very least watching parts of a playthrough. anyway why are we talking about other peoples reviews? they are other people opinions based on them having played the game for a few hours. any gamer knows not to trust them.
megaspeed2 2 months ago
@megaspeed2 Well alot people tend to look at reviews on a game to judge wether it is good or not. Maybe that an opinion could be subjective if it was just ONE review that got good ratings, but ALL reviews from ALL publications give very similar ratings, some of which go very indepth in their reviews. Reviews this consistant from many seperate publications must mean something.
VColossalV 2 months ago
@megaspeed2
In the Forza picture it is in the garage, with artificial lights all along the ceiling, those are the white reflections in which your argument there was based on, both of the GT5 pictures and the real life picture are on the track while the Forza picture was in the garage- your only argument when you sent the picture was the reflections, which in those conditions real life would be like that, not non-reflective like GT5 cars.
VColossalV 2 months ago
@VColossalV err, what? i think you misunderstood, the left image is GT5 and the middle is real life, there isnt more than one GT5 image in the picture i sent you. (Btw the GT5 image i took myself ingame and the real life image was from a motorsport site so dont go claiming that i took both from the game to make them look similar.)
megaspeed2 2 months ago
@megaspeed2 also i will try and find a forza4 image with better, more similar conditions to prove it. i only made the image in a rush last time so i couldnt find one that was perfect.
megaspeed2 2 months ago
@megaspeed2 Yeah mate, look at the link i sent in your inbox and get embarrassed, lists and lists of the downfalls of GT5, good luck playing a game that 4/5s of the cars have shitty graphics and no interiors, be my guest.
VColossalV 1 month ago
@VColossalV the review you sent me.. biased much? the only real gt5 problem that review shows is the loading times, which arent too bad anyway. i dont know what they were talking about with the game being unsmooth either,it only drops below 60fps for a split second at the start of races with 16 premium cars and even then u dont notice it that much. both forza and gt have terrible dammage so why compare them? standard cars are still fun to drive, the online mode does all it needs to, start races.
megaspeed2 1 month ago
@megaspeed2 "both forza and gt have terrible dammage so why compare them?"
GT5 doesn't have good damage, you even have to unlock the little damage it does have - in Forza, there is alot more damage... not exactly like real life obviously, but still very realistic for a video game.
VColossalV 1 month ago
@VColossalV actually theres hundreds of games which beat both GT5 and Forza down to a pulp with their dammage simulations, GTR, Race07, rFactor, Live for speed and iRacing are a few of the best for it, even a free to play game called LevelR (sometimes known as Project Torque or Heat Online) has better dammage then both gt5 or forza4) so there is no point in comparing the dammage of them both.
megaspeed2 1 month ago
@megaspeed2 Never said other games didn't have better damage, i'm only saying Forza has better damage than GT5 specifically. I'd hardly say there were "hundreds though".
VColossalV 1 month ago
@VColossalV well you did say "very realistic for a video game." which implies that not many games are better for it.
iRacing,Liveforspeed,rFactor,rFactor2, GTR, GTR Evo, Race 07, Race on, LevelR, WRC, Dirt series, Toca race driver, GRID, F1 2011, NFS Shift and Shift 2, and need for speed pro street all have better dammage, thats 18 games so its not hard to imagne theres many more with better dammage simulations.
megaspeed2 1 month ago
@megaspeed2 Have you not seen Forza 4 damage when simulation damage is turned on? The car damages mechanically too, if you for example play with manual w/clutch, and you change gear without using the clutch correctly you will damage the gearbox etc, if you shift down gears at high speed that will compltely fuck the gearbox up just like it would in real life, pretty much anything interanally can get damaged and effects the driving accordingly.
VColossalV 1 month ago
@VColossalV btw watch this for some real graphics
/watch?v=O_bq51EDmWc&feature=related
its rFactor2 a new PC Sim racing game coming out soon
This is a Pre-Retail video too some graphics settings arent enabled yet in it.
there are some post-rendering effects added for the video but you should get the point.
megaspeed2 1 month ago
@VColossalV also the picture comparisons on the review you showed me showed the standard cars of gt5 vs the normal forza cars... thats not a graphicsal comparison of the game, thats a graphics comparison of GT2 vs Forza4.. tbh the GT2 cars look better than in forza4 anyway lol, atleast they dont look like toys in GT2.
megaspeed2 1 month ago
@megaspeed2 Yes, and 4/5s of the cars are standard, god i cant imagine how terrible that is... not only that but a good chunk of them are japanese cars that nobody cares about... Forza has around 600 cars... ALL of which are consistant. I laughed so hard when i saw that GT5 has GT2 graphic cars even in some of the standard cars. This among alot of other reasons is WHY Forza 4 will always get 10/10s, and GT5 will continuously get bad reviews and 8/10s.
VColossalV 1 month ago
@VColossalV you go on and on and on about reviews, dont you have your own opinions? opinions you get from what you have read in reviews dont count, you need to actually atleast watch some videos of GT5 before you can say anything about its graphics, a reviewer saying "its bad" isnt good enough. do some research before you comment again...
megaspeed2 1 month ago
@megaspeed2 I form my own opinions, i don't like a game based on reviews, but reviews speak for themselves and generally you can judge before you buy a game wether it is good or not based on its ratings- not that i do this. These are professionals who go very in depth in their analysis and it is their jobs to critique games, they have no bias. I have seen enough GT5 videos, i am not saying it's a bad game, an 8/10 is still good, but 10/10s aren't given away for nothing.
VColossalV 1 month ago
@megaspeed2 No i didn't misunderstand, i was meant to say "both the GT5 picture AND the the real life picture" - i did not read the comment back, so no i didn't mean there were 2 GT5 pictures, that was my bad for not checking my comment.
VColossalV 2 months ago
@megaspeed2 Also, in GT5, only about 250 of the cars are premium, the rest of the 750 are compied straight from GT4 and have PS2 graphics, there are also PS2 graphic tracks, i couldn't play a game that inconsistant, and i would get bored of the game very fast with the lack of customization and online community- how it took 6 years to make is beyond me. Never in my life have i played a racing game as good as Forza, and i fell in love with the game right from the start.
VColossalV 2 months ago
@VColossalV Oh and btw before you say "you said you dont need to have played the game" back then we were talking about graphics but now you have changed to gameplay so no im not being hypocritical (thx for changing the subject cuz u lose :D)
megaspeed2 2 months ago
@megaspeed2 Our argument is about which game is better, there is no "subject". My argument is valid, it is a fact that 3/4's of the cars are PS2 graphics copied from GT4, same with some tracks.
VColossalV 2 months ago
@VColossalV 1. we were arguing about the graphics only. 2. you dont have to drive the other 800 cars if u want and 3. NONE of the tracks are copied over from GT4 to GT5 they are all made from scratch for GT5.
megaspeed2 2 months ago
@VColossalV None of the cars are PS2 Graphics, you don't understand the software behind it do you.
MrStig691 1 month ago
@MrStig691 Yes, 800 cars (4/5s of all the cars) are PS2 graphics, and they have no interior, which is fucking awfull, look how terrible the non-premium cars look compared to the premium ones, i could not play a game with this much inconsistancy.
VColossalV 1 month ago
@MrStig691 the 1,000 car number breaks down into 800 Standard cars that use the PlayStation 2 car models and 200 Premium cars that are full PS3 cars (with cockpit views) that are a pain in the ass to unlock.
Even on Amazon, where even terrible products look good, it states in Key Features that the 830 non-premium cars are pasted from previous games. Only the 170 premium cars (which you unlock, wow.) have PS3 graphics with interiors, how AWFULL.
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@VColossalV yeah the mclaren does look very good but the reflections are crap, they are just white blocks, not actually reflecting the surroundings.
megaspeed2 2 months ago
@megaspeed2 If you look at other cars they look even better. The reflections are realistic, look at some other autovista cars. The graphics are the main thing critics praise about the game, obviously everything else is great too- but the quality of this video somehow doesn't portray the actual graphics. I nearly pulled my hair out when i saw the comment saying GT3/4 had better graphics, GT5 probably equals it in how te cars looks, but the scenery is GT is awfull.
VColossalV 2 months ago
never realsied how tall and thin that car is :D
Ajit269 2 months ago
This looks like a job for the Stig...
MasterADG1 2 months ago
How come they didn't get the camera view not so similarly-close? Well they did well though, but on the Follow-Through, why the heck they slanted the camera? And i know at some point where the camera shows the Stig inside, i think they should too in Forza 4, showing the driver inside. I mean, how hard can it be?
orihalchon 2 months ago
LOL at the people in this comment section who don't know what body roll looks like. Stop trollin'.
razorfett147 2 months ago
@razorfett147 no but theyre actually right. It does show any body roll
TheStockCarStig 2 months ago
@TheStockCarStig I can assure you, you see PLENTY of body roll on non-modified cars on FM4. Make your final judgements on FM4 using only this video...at your own risk.
razorfett147 2 months ago
@razorfett147 I think they are mistaking body roll for suspension travel lol, as you feel body roll you dont see it, what you see is suspension, soft or hard
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dylangould1 3 months ago
Why does fm4 have that tone?Is it the camera?
doubleAAbatteries687 3 months ago
Let's also not forget that Turn 10 utilized confidential real time tire data from Pirelli in formulating its physics model for FM4. When you want to paint the game's physics model with the broad "arcade" brush stroke based on what you THINK a real car with certain modifications should handle like, then you're pushing things into the realm of subjectivity...not facts.
razorfett147 3 months ago
right good
left bad and fake
lifethelifetoday 3 months ago
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@lifethelifetoday Can you really try to explain how the left is bad? They look exactly the same.
rileypoole1234 3 months ago
Tom Cruise and Cameron Diaz episode :P
ChickinSammichMan 3 months ago
@TDRrevenge Hi, yes as a player of Forza3, LiveForSpeed, Rfactor, i racing (yet to play 2.0), GTLedgends, GTR1, 2 and a few of the GT(sony) series I know that some games offer driving aids. I found F3 to be quite arcady and seeing all of these F4 video's (even of ppl playing with the FTwheels) this game still looks very much the same as F3. Surely not everyone's using the aids?? lol this vid looks as if they are comparing graphics/car speed/laptime. tbh.
chrisbewrx 3 months ago
@chrisbewrx Well considering that many comparison vids that have sprung up have the FM4 driver using the full driving line assist (something no self respecting Forza veteran would shame themselves by doing), then yea...it's not unreasonable to assume that alot of ppl are running these cars with the default assist settings. I can assure you, FM4's physics engine is vastly superior to FM3's...and compares quite favorably with GT5's driving model based on my experiences with all 3 games.
razorfett147 3 months ago
Video games wern't designed for realism and the goal for Forza was to make racing enjoyable for EVERYONE, considering that their competing neck and neck with a rival that has a 10+ year head start and released a WHOLE lot more then just 4 racing titles, I think Forza series deserves much more praise considering how noble their goal and achievements has been.
A racing game for people who love cars like a family dog, unlike GT were cars are just "tools" used by the player.
PurpleStorm8 3 months ago
I have to buy a 360. NOW!
ZeGeRiVeNz 3 months ago
Hey look ! The stig
123raymanfan 3 months ago
Game looks really nice!! but apearantly it needs more roll-over to make it just that little bit more realistic! But the graphics are so fine! Probably in a few years we can't even make the smallest difference between virtual and reality o_O
alain001 3 months ago
this video just points out how arcadey Forza still is, even after 4 games it still doesn't simulate understeer. Thats a cheap FF car, but forza makes it look like a Civic Type R. check the understeer in the RL car round the hammer head, then see Forza hug the inside line like the dude could pull 200kmph round there. lol
chrisbewrx 3 months ago
@chrisbewrx
/watch?v=ym9QCFNAsoA
2:30
WoahSalmo 3 months ago
@WoahSalmo Sorry I guess I should have said realistically simulate understeer. I think any car game will push a car wide if you try to go too fast around a corner, but that dosen't make Need for Speed a car sim lol.
TBH it's hard to argue with the clear proof this video shows. There a multiple corners that show how far off Forza4 is compared to RL.
chrisbewrx 3 months ago
@chrisbewrx you do know there are various options a lot of people dont take any notice of, 1 option setting is realistic steering while the other is slightly assisted then you have TCS ABS STB ect turning those off would have resulted in a more realistic replay however the video isnt set to show the phyics of the game more to show the game vs the show, if TG have allowed forza to use their content as much as they allowed PD to use it last year does that make GT5 arcadey too !!!
TDRrevenge 3 months ago
@chrisbewrx How the fuck you get off saying Forza doesn't simulate understeer??? I've yet to drive a factory road car in FM2, FM3, or FM4 that didn't require some tuning to effectively rotate into turns without throttle oversteer or lift oversteer. You ppl who like to bag on Forza need to stop making assumptions based on replay vids. Lots of PC sims don't visually simulate these things, yet they are definitely felt when the player is driving the car.
razorfett147 3 months ago
@razorfett147 wow calm down dude... I am a player of F3 which I found to be a good game... But as far as saying it's a good Sim racer, you'd have to be drunk or a 10year old.... lol I found F3 ended up kinda boring me because the pyshics are made to be pick up and play and not realistic, if you find them to be life like, then good for you (are you drunk tho?)
Comparing my replays to F4's I cant see too many differences in the pyshics therfore I made the statement of "arcadey" sry lol
chrisbewrx 3 months ago
@chrisbewrx FM3's driving model had it's flaws, I don't dispute that. But we're talking about FM4 here, which has addressed many of the issues that 3 demonstrated in terms of physics. You are making a baseless assumption of FM4's driving model by watching a replay vid on Youtube. If you think you know more about this game's physics engine than someone (like me) who has spent well over 60 hours with the game since its release, then I think YOU'RE the one that's had a few too many to drink.
razorfett147 3 months ago
@razorfett147 There we go, a good couple of responces based on some form of knowledge, I still have my doubts from some of the vids I've seen (drift Vids using 900 degree) that turn ten haven managed to add a realistic feel to the game, it still looks like you can hold superman drifts without a chance of spinning etc. One of the reasons Forza is so popular, because its a game made for the skill level of ppl that drive FF cars to the shops every day, or 10 year olds lol.
Enough bashing I rent it
chrisbewrx 3 months ago
@chrisbewrx I can atest to one thing...it's NOT that easy to hold a good drift in FM4 without spinning. It does take some degree of skill....particularly when stability management is not on. Most ppl who post vids of drifting on either FM3 or FM4 usually have some impressive drifting skills to show off. Someone like me, on the other hand, would be better served by NOT showing off vids of my drifting attempts. lol
razorfett147 3 months ago
@chrisbewrx 10 year olds can have just as much skill in a game as anyone else, in fact a 7 year old can, so stop being prejudice to 10 year olds ...
firefox11f 3 months ago
good one. well, you have to see my review:
/watch?v=XI2UT1Xfefw
jpzhouutube 3 months ago
My time was 1:46.7
cydonianknight2 3 months ago
GT5 is much better
MegaFCKforever 3 months ago
every time I finish a lap at the test track in this game, I can't help but shout "...and ACROSS THE LINE!"
MeatballYaro2 3 months ago
on forza 4 is there reallt a topgear test track or is it a download?
RcZandMore 3 months ago
@RcZandMore ya it's on the disc :)
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0verdriveGaming 3 months ago
Anyone realises that in Top Gear the Ceed has rollover cage, so when you drive around the track in FM4, your car is all wrond if it's completely stock... just mentioning.
Sampyla20plus 4 months ago
and.. across the line..
lunkprab 4 months ago
this might be a dumb question, but can you really get top gear track on forza?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?
veryfewpsdtutorials 4 months ago
@veryfewpsdtutorials Yes, you can. You even get an achievement called 'Star in a Reasonably Priced Car' for doing a lap of the Top Gear test track in a Kia Cee'd
Ozymandias916 4 months ago
@Ozymandias916 Thats cool!! thanks for your reply :)
veryfewpsdtutorials 3 months ago
I like the way they had to tell you which was the top gear episode :/
pugNdrum 4 months ago
which was faster
10yroldcarlover 4 months ago
Turn10 seem to have trouble capturing the stroboscopic effect of the wheels. Reality wins!
greenbastard619 4 months ago
lmao i was wondering which one was the game
itsomerandomguy 4 months ago
i taught the game looked more realistic than the tv
addzer2k9 4 months ago
wait.... which one is the real one?
TheCheeseboy55 4 months ago
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7:26.70 lap time on Nürburgring Nordschleife set in 23 April 2009 by Nissan test driver Toshio Suzuki driving a Nissan GTR, now matched in a GT5 presented in splitscreen vs real life video 1:1, GT5 Nissan GTR equipped with Sports-Medium tires, no assists, with steering wheel and a nice large screen. Prove it yourself in GT5 :)
ChiricoChuvie 4 months ago
i thought the left one was the tv......
biohills 4 months ago
@theSchmaandrew I like a balance. Iracing is great and physics are only just beaten by a few other hardcore sims! F4 is close in physics enough that i'm happy with the compromise for the graphics/tracks/cars im interested in (no disrespect meant). As for people talking about GT5 you can tell theve never driven Iracer or even in really life its closer to segas crazy taxi than it is to Iracer. Normally im like who cares but people just make a full by saying GT5 physic are the most realistic!! :S
1987kevymeister 4 months ago
the track seems to be wider in forza
ryanlbates01 4 months ago
@ryanlbates01 All the real tracks are wider in forza, apparently is for the IA to cope with overtakes and stuff and as of GT5 they're milimetric accurate, i'm just saying...
DeanCalaway 4 months ago
Which is Real Life?
ximowilson 4 months ago 2
I'm not joking I thought force was the real one
marshmellow352 4 months ago
is the one on the right GT5? just sayin.
dude991575 4 months ago
@dude991575 eh no gt5 would not come up to forsa
dublinairportplanes 4 months ago
@dude991575 you will see TopGear Episode top right side
BooMers232 4 months ago
The game's weather should be more shit! Not realistic to Britain at all. :P
ABritishGamer 4 months ago 53
@ABritishGamer The Top Gear track can also be raced in dreary, overcast weather...so that's covered. ;)
razorfett147 3 months ago
@ABritishGamer true true lol
MrCookiehz 3 months ago
@hiphoppolice55 enjoy your wider tracks and permanent steering assist fanboy
012789F 4 months ago
i love how gran turismo 5 was delayed for like 5 years and they made forza 4 in like 2 years and its so epic compared to gt5
hiphoppolice55 4 months ago
@hiphoppolice55 You also know that there was only 149 people in total working on Gran Turismo 5, plus Kaz does 24hour racing so it was delayed by a few years because of that. Plus if I recall the Top Gear Test Track isnt scattered with random Tire Walls and cones to help the noob drivers. I know for a fact people will say I'm a fan boy but I'm not. I own both consoles and GT5 and all the Forza's. I just prefer GT5 over Forza since gt5 is more life like. How do I know? I drive a real car.
AlloutStigGT5 4 months ago
@AlloutStigGT5 "I drive a real car." I do as well, but more importantly, I race a real car. Do you race? Why I'm asking is, I feel Forza 4 is def more life-like. GT5 is fairly close, but Forza still wins with me. What traction setings do you leave on? I turn off everything except ABS depending on the car. I assume you are using a wheel, is it lifelike at all? Does it turn at least 900 degrees? Maybe though, it's our settings/steering wheel/tv refresh rate/etc that makes each game feel different.
host47 4 months ago
gran turismo 5 is so shit
sthlondonbros 4 months ago
@NUKLEUSBENZ youre blind, i cant even see the understeer on FM where GT5 is takes a lot of effort to go around hammerhead just like the real deal.
41ACE 4 months ago
Anonymous is going to take down the xbox servers.
Anonymous3232512 4 months ago
I love playing this game
WesternGamingFilms 4 months ago
Haha looks better on the game
TheModernMovement 4 months ago
@NUKLEUSBENZ How does GT5 suck? If you are going to state something, please elaborate.
TeamLotusGT5 4 months ago
I WANT THIZ GAME
arcadeportal32 4 months ago
O.o
Gorjeado 4 months ago
@NUKLEUSBENZ You right i'm tired waiting a good racing game in the PS3 I think I'm gonna buy a cheap Xbox 360 and forza 4 to had a proper Bugatti Veyron
edtk99 4 months ago 2
whats hapend to the car!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
nonbiopower 4 months ago
The game looks more real then the tv.
TheEgg185 4 months ago 45
@TheEgg185 hhmmmm
wolvesrcomin 4 months ago
@TheEgg185 then your retarded then LOL!
evolover999 4 months ago
@TheEgg185 how? the kia in forza showed no body roll. thats seriously unrealistic
hippiejesus909 4 months ago 12
@hippiejesus909 and they were going into the final bend (Gambon) at the same angle and speed, yet when Clarkson said "The traditional Cee'D understeer" the Forza version didnt understeer at all.
Love the camera angles though they nailed them perfectly.
MadMupp 4 months ago
@hippiejesus909 you're right.....
eazyduzitcpt 3 months ago
@hippiejesus909 but it body rolls when your driving the car in the game, believe me.
ryanishereyay123 2 months ago
@hippiejesus909 0:01 body roll
kyleisreallycool 2 months ago
@TheEgg185 If you really believe that then you are a fucking moron
1993gandy 3 months ago
tthe car just needs to be a bit looser
UnIuckyChucky 4 months ago
Yes...real life looks million times better than Forza. We know.
SuokukkoNokikana 4 months ago
What is the need with all the pointless cones and tires barriers around the hammerhead! - (Forza 4)
helloimmw2 4 months ago
So, I can afford playing both (GT5 and F4) with a racing wheel and I can say this:
The racing wheel I have for the PS3 is way better than my xbox wheel, but Forza 4 is way more fun than GT5. My biggest problem with GT5 is the fact that I can't get matching cars for some of the races, which means I have to race the same races over and over again until a suitable car comes up at the used car dealer.
Localhorst86 4 months ago
@Localhorst86 ahh life is so hard sometimes my heart bleeds for you
bourbonated 4 months ago
@bourbonated why thank you kind sir. It's nice to know that someone cares for my feelings :->
Localhorst86 4 months ago
Stupid console wars, just because you can't afford to play both GT5 and Forza 4 doesn't mean that automatically one of them has to be shit. What's more is that you can tell because of that you haven't had a clear judgement to the other game simply because you haven't been able to play it.
RussianWarClub 4 months ago
Mr. BEAN IS FUCKING FASTEST THEN YOU XD
thawhiteballa 4 months ago
@thawhiteballa A CAVEMAN IS FUCKING SMARTEST THEN YOU XD
hdfhjufhf 4 months ago
C'D
Johnson0964 4 months ago
GT5 engine sounds are like the same from GT1 or 2 lol
Forza 4 own all the other racing simulation games
adonisaugusto 4 months ago
Forza is just arcade sim... Guys buy real cars already!
zurisar 4 months ago
ON that Bombshell, Gran Turismo WINS!!!
Good luck thumbing down Forza Failers
Oockeshoek 4 months ago
@Oockeshoek troll
MCKaain 4 months ago
I own GT5 and ps3 ..... personally I have no interest in owning an xbox for just one game because there is Nothing else the system has to offer that I want - but I will admit this looks so much better than GT5 and the difference is Turn10 is learning from the competition's mistakes and that's something Polyphony Digital has never done.....
Wedge4Life 4 months ago
@Wedge4Life I got a Xbox, JUST for this game, and its wotrh it!
trineersmuk 4 months ago
@trineersmuk you know I might..... but if I do I'll wait till the xbox720 comes out then the 360 will be like 80 bucks.... keep in mind I wouldn't be playing this with a controller so I'd need to get a wheel as well.... so that's even more money
Wedge4Life 4 months ago
@Wedge4Life clevet thinkin, but i couldnt wait :)
trineersmuk 4 months ago
Wow don't believe this GT Forza war still goes on. I will honestly accept Forza is better looking and more fun for a game. However i don't think it can match the simulation levels of GT5.
DriftK13 4 months ago
@DriftK13 The simulation is so much better in forza as you get a much better feel for the car than gt5. i had a ps3 from the day it came out and when i played gt5 for the first time i went straight out and bought a 360 and forza 3, in my experience it is the best of the both.
daz240490 4 months ago
@daz240490 That's got to be one of the most biased comments ever.
DriftK13 4 months ago
0:21 here at the back end of the car, forza 4 has the lighting exactly right!
photardshop 4 months ago
Be awesome if it had the "UK" Number Plate.
PRODRIFTER97 4 months ago
@avanpal65 are you some kind of retard? GT5 did the shittest attempt at the Top Gear Track, and it took them 5 years. Forza took 1 year and made it ten times better than GT5. So suck my gonads.
GazwarA413 4 months ago
ok top gear was real like a real car and forza was forza game
find147 4 months ago
0:17 tires look awful but whatever, who cares right?
cheesebubble360 4 months ago
I dont understand why would a ps3 owner watch this video at all? or comment on it for that matter. if PS3 and GT5 are better, go and enjoy it, why waste time commenting...
on another note, this game is smoking! cant wait
mjenabi2 4 months ago