Stargazing lead us to the big bang theory. It gave us an understanding of how atoms are formed. From stargazing we have mapped millions of stars and galaxies, exploring the universe in the only way we currently can. With stargazing we can spot incoming asteroids and it gives us a chance to react, preventing the destruction of complex life on this planet. Building houses on a dusty rock with no atmosphere doesn't even come close.
I agree completely, but I still think that says far more about the individual's state of mind, (i.e.; religious indoctrination, the things we are sheltered from, told are bad, never see). I knew a guy, who would watch autopsies while eating, I couldn't, nor would I ever want to, but he always told me, it's all in your head.
heh my mom criticized the LHC saying they were wasting billions of dollars when they could be helping starving children in Africa and such, and while I get her point, my response was, then the christians and such shouldn't waste the money on churches, and preaching to others, and put that to helping improve the world. Imagine what could be done with all the money the catholic and other churches get every year.
Heh tell me about it, I agree that money should be spent for helping the poor and such, but I'm more up for spending money on advancing science rather then advancing religion.
It's all part of this whole thing that the world will end soon, and the immortal soul is more important then this brief moment on earth.
@wolfwing1 here's food for thought, in 2007 there was a "rough audit" done on the catholic church's finances. it was estimated that the revenue amnt held by the catholic church could PAY A 3YR STAY IN A 5 STAR HOTEL FOR EVERY SINGLE PERSON ON THE PLANET. how's that for having the power to mitigate hunger, disease & poor education, but showing how blindly they say screw the faithful, the more faith they have the fuller our coffers get!!
It's knowledge of the universe, and life and what is out there, anything that increases our knowledge of our place in the universe is worth it's weight in gold, much better then spending money on churches and stuff to propogate propoganda I say.
Since human population might not be subject to a mean-reversing process... it's a fair bet that if we don't expand by colonizing other planets we will be extinct in a matter of less than a million years.
(A large asteroid impact, increase in volcanic activity, nuclear holocaust or not-so distant supernovae would be more than enough to wipe us out even if we had a mean-reverting population.)
Of course, if you don't care about anything more long-term than your lifespan, this isn't so useful.
It is physically impossible to transport people to outer space to keep up with the world's birth rate even if they had a place to go. There is just too many people. Also the birth rate has been steadily declining in Western Europe and in Japan. Over population is something we can deal with. I believe in China they heavily tax couples who have more than two children. No outer space is not a practical solution for the Human race.
The plan would be to only transport a handful of people to outer space so that the species has a backup plan if earth turns sour.
Overpopulation isn't the problem; Underpopulation is. Mathematically, the only way a species can hope to survive very long is if they swiftly react to a drop in population by a baby boom.
If the whole world follows the west's demographic transition, that won't be possible.
Add the fact that few babies are born during world wars... and the prospects are bleak.
I see no great need for any rush in this. My personal opinion is that it will happen quiet naturally anyhow. Especially the establishment of a thriving moon colony. If the theoretical potential of Helium3 is realized. Both India and China have stated that they are motivated in their moon programs by the idea of mining Helium3. So if Helium3 does become the world's choice for nuclear energy fuel... You will find a moon colony forming very quickly.
But a rush is still a very good idea. We are spending way below the optimum amount on scientific research worldwide anyway. (Because a lot of it is long-term high-risk and hard to market).
We also have no clue about esentially anything that's going to happen more than 50 years from now be it socially or geologically.
I seriously doubt that transporting helium 3 from the moon could be profitable. You can get it off decommissioned warheads and there's plenty of those.
Ahhh ahh hahhh!! You beat me to the punch! :-) I was going to tell you to read the ENTIRE wiki article! :-)
But anyhow going back to my very first comment. I see no value in spending millions and millions of additional dollars just for "Star gazing" deep into the universe. I would much rather see the money that we would spend on star gazing go into building a permanent moon colony. It is time we move into the exciting and challenging practical challenges of Outer space.
Star gazing is esential both for finding extra-solar planets and, more importantly, to provide an experimental basis for theoretical physics.
Unless we get some major breakthrough in theoretical physics, we're not going to be able to get outside of our solar system. This kind of advancement takes both time and money, in the right proportions. We cannot hope to delay research for 100 years through funding cuts and then catch up by throwing money at it later.
Well in the best of all worlds money would grow on trees also. However it does not. We need to allocate funds. It is time to shelve star gazing. To put it away for awhile.
Star gazing is cheap. The work force is payed sub-standard wages. The only big expense is when new equipment is baught. Most of the infrastructure is already there.
There's a few new satellites going out but that's hardly a significant cost compared to overall research spending. They're targeted at specific phenomena that interest a whole range of researchers.
If you would be willing to shelve star gazing to save a few dimes, you might as well bin pure maths and string theorists.
Mathematics is expensive? Do you have any figures or are you just dreaming? The magazines and media are filled with the millions and millions of dollars spent for equipment for the star gazers every day. Why would you ask me to do the research to support YOUR assertion. Please don't be lazy.
Very informative. Thanks. But I have to say about half way through I couldn't stop watching his adam's apple. Always interesting how it moves as he talks.
Relax dudes, I'm saying religion's enemy is knowledge and they've known it from the beginning. That's why regardless of what tree it is, the story is all about how Obedience to the word is more important than your innate curiosity and sense.
I was too blazed at the time to properly word what I was trying to say.
Nice video, even us amateur astronomer can get great results. I modified my old Canon 30D by removing the IR filter and it works well as an astro camera through my 300mm f2.8LIS lens mounted on a motorised GOTO drive. The biggest problem I have is the light pollution. Someone should do a video to promote light pollution free skies.
"It's kind of exemplified by the story of Adam and Eve. Satan lures you to knowledge. "
Are you aware that it was the "fruit of the tree of knowledge OF GOOD AND EVIL" and not merely the "fruit of the tree of knowledge"? In light of the above, one can easily surmise that "Satan luring one/us to knowledge" Is a gross oversimplification at best and bad analogy at worst..
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GodOnlyKnows87 2 years ago
Stargazing lead us to the big bang theory. It gave us an understanding of how atoms are formed. From stargazing we have mapped millions of stars and galaxies, exploring the universe in the only way we currently can. With stargazing we can spot incoming asteroids and it gives us a chance to react, preventing the destruction of complex life on this planet. Building houses on a dusty rock with no atmosphere doesn't even come close.
personalsinr 3 years ago
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I agree completely, but I still think that says far more about the individual's state of mind, (i.e.; religious indoctrination, the things we are sheltered from, told are bad, never see). I knew a guy, who would watch autopsies while eating, I couldn't, nor would I ever want to, but he always told me, it's all in your head.
bob7399162 2 years ago
3 Gigapixal camera.. Wow.. Funny thing is that in 20-30 years we will all have that kind of technology in our pockets. heh. Really fascinating stuff!
ImaginaryGodBlessYou 3 years ago 2
Great video! Any day on which one learns something new cannot be considered to have been wasted. =^[.]^=
Raycheetah 3 years ago 2
Very true.
Chaotischesneutrales 3 years ago
heh my mom criticized the LHC saying they were wasting billions of dollars when they could be helping starving children in Africa and such, and while I get her point, my response was, then the christians and such shouldn't waste the money on churches, and preaching to others, and put that to helping improve the world. Imagine what could be done with all the money the catholic and other churches get every year.
wolfwing1 3 years ago 5
The catholic church has to use that money for abuse settlements.
trublu832 3 years ago 2
Heh tell me about it, I agree that money should be spent for helping the poor and such, but I'm more up for spending money on advancing science rather then advancing religion.
It's all part of this whole thing that the world will end soon, and the immortal soul is more important then this brief moment on earth.
wolfwing1 3 years ago
@wolfwing1 here's food for thought, in 2007 there was a "rough audit" done on the catholic church's finances. it was estimated that the revenue amnt held by the catholic church could PAY A 3YR STAY IN A 5 STAR HOTEL FOR EVERY SINGLE PERSON ON THE PLANET. how's that for having the power to mitigate hunger, disease & poor education, but showing how blindly they say screw the faithful, the more faith they have the fuller our coffers get!!
d00m0racl3 1 year ago
Who is paying for all this? Why are we paying for this? Of what practical value is this?
KasparHauser4 3 years ago
It's knowledge of the universe, and life and what is out there, anything that increases our knowledge of our place in the universe is worth it's weight in gold, much better then spending money on churches and stuff to propogate propoganda I say.
wolfwing1 3 years ago 7
ur smart!!!!!1111
shurikin93 3 years ago
Since human population might not be subject to a mean-reversing process... it's a fair bet that if we don't expand by colonizing other planets we will be extinct in a matter of less than a million years.
(A large asteroid impact, increase in volcanic activity, nuclear holocaust or not-so distant supernovae would be more than enough to wipe us out even if we had a mean-reverting population.)
Of course, if you don't care about anything more long-term than your lifespan, this isn't so useful.
Paulginz 3 years ago
It is physically impossible to transport people to outer space to keep up with the world's birth rate even if they had a place to go. There is just too many people. Also the birth rate has been steadily declining in Western Europe and in Japan. Over population is something we can deal with. I believe in China they heavily tax couples who have more than two children. No outer space is not a practical solution for the Human race.
KasparHauser4 3 years ago
The plan would be to only transport a handful of people to outer space so that the species has a backup plan if earth turns sour.
Overpopulation isn't the problem; Underpopulation is. Mathematically, the only way a species can hope to survive very long is if they swiftly react to a drop in population by a baby boom.
If the whole world follows the west's demographic transition, that won't be possible.
Add the fact that few babies are born during world wars... and the prospects are bleak.
Paulginz 3 years ago
I see no great need for any rush in this. My personal opinion is that it will happen quiet naturally anyhow. Especially the establishment of a thriving moon colony. If the theoretical potential of Helium3 is realized. Both India and China have stated that they are motivated in their moon programs by the idea of mining Helium3. So if Helium3 does become the world's choice for nuclear energy fuel... You will find a moon colony forming very quickly.
KasparHauser4 3 years ago
There is no need for a rush.
But a rush is still a very good idea. We are spending way below the optimum amount on scientific research worldwide anyway. (Because a lot of it is long-term high-risk and hard to market).
We also have no clue about esentially anything that's going to happen more than 50 years from now be it socially or geologically.
I seriously doubt that transporting helium 3 from the moon could be profitable. You can get it off decommissioned warheads and there's plenty of those.
Paulginz 3 years ago
In essence, it will happen quietly and naturally, but the sooner the better.
Oh, and sorry about my comment on Helium 3. Apparently a lot of people are serious about this "mining the moon" idea.
Paulginz 3 years ago
Ahhh ahh hahhh!! You beat me to the punch! :-) I was going to tell you to read the ENTIRE wiki article! :-)
But anyhow going back to my very first comment. I see no value in spending millions and millions of additional dollars just for "Star gazing" deep into the universe. I would much rather see the money that we would spend on star gazing go into building a permanent moon colony. It is time we move into the exciting and challenging practical challenges of Outer space.
KasparHauser4 3 years ago
The best would be to do both.
Star gazing is esential both for finding extra-solar planets and, more importantly, to provide an experimental basis for theoretical physics.
Unless we get some major breakthrough in theoretical physics, we're not going to be able to get outside of our solar system. This kind of advancement takes both time and money, in the right proportions. We cannot hope to delay research for 100 years through funding cuts and then catch up by throwing money at it later.
Paulginz 3 years ago
Well in the best of all worlds money would grow on trees also. However it does not. We need to allocate funds. It is time to shelve star gazing. To put it away for awhile.
KasparHauser4 3 years ago
Don't worry.
Star gazing is cheap. The work force is payed sub-standard wages. The only big expense is when new equipment is baught. Most of the infrastructure is already there.
There's a few new satellites going out but that's hardly a significant cost compared to overall research spending. They're targeted at specific phenomena that interest a whole range of researchers.
If you would be willing to shelve star gazing to save a few dimes, you might as well bin pure maths and string theorists.
Paulginz 3 years ago 2
Really? Math and string theory require millions and millions of dollars in equipment? I never would have guessed this.
KasparHauser4 3 years ago
Do you have any figures?
I can't seem to find any, but I would guess that the global budget for mathematical research is larger than the global budget for stargazing.
Paulginz 3 years ago
Mathematics is expensive? Do you have any figures or are you just dreaming? The magazines and media are filled with the millions and millions of dollars spent for equipment for the star gazers every day. Why would you ask me to do the research to support YOUR assertion. Please don't be lazy.
KasparHauser4 3 years ago
I just said that I don't have any figures and am just guessing.
I looked and couldn't find any figues, so I just made a guess.
It's well known that media coverage of events is proportional neither to frequency nor impact.
Unless you have compared the actual figures at some point, you're also just making a guess.
Paulginz 3 years ago
End of this conversation. You just jumped over the idiocy line.
KasparHauser4 3 years ago
Ok.
I still stand by the fact that "telescopes look expensive" is not a very good argument.
Mathematics departments in university get more funding than astrophysics departments (simply because they're much bigger).
You either have some idea of the relative cost of space exploration and mathematical research, or you don't.
If you do, please give at least an order of magnitude. The argument would be easily resolved
If you don't, then don't act all superior with your blind conjecturing.
Goodbye
Paulginz 3 years ago 3
Very informative. Thanks. But I have to say about half way through I couldn't stop watching his adam's apple. Always interesting how it moves as he talks.
psychowarrior 3 years ago
hahah i liked what u said i might use that in my next argument with religious fanatics hehe
valles666 3 years ago
Relax dudes, I'm saying religion's enemy is knowledge and they've known it from the beginning. That's why regardless of what tree it is, the story is all about how Obedience to the word is more important than your innate curiosity and sense.
I was too blazed at the time to properly word what I was trying to say.
Ccolebrooked 3 years ago 3
Nice video, even us amateur astronomer can get great results. I modified my old Canon 30D by removing the IR filter and it works well as an astro camera through my 300mm f2.8LIS lens mounted on a motorised GOTO drive. The biggest problem I have is the light pollution. Someone should do a video to promote light pollution free skies.
NecipPerver 3 years ago
It's kind of exemplified by the story of Adam and Eve. Satan lures you to knowledge.
Ccolebrooked 3 years ago
Then I'll go with the devil and be knowledgeable rather than god and be lead to ignorance.
IFloridaMotocrossI 3 years ago 2
"It's kind of exemplified by the story of Adam and Eve. Satan lures you to knowledge. "
Are you aware that it was the "fruit of the tree of knowledge OF GOOD AND EVIL" and not merely the "fruit of the tree of knowledge"? In light of the above, one can easily surmise that "Satan luring one/us to knowledge" Is a gross oversimplification at best and bad analogy at worst..
twothlesswonder 3 years ago
Great video!
iMissHipHop 3 years ago
audio / video is off sync
TehBloggaar 3 years ago
Thank you so much for posting this. Intriguing and beautiful.
gilraen789 3 years ago
Total coolness ★★★★★
Katalyzt 3 years ago
Another fantastic video. As much as I enjoy The Atheist Experience videos, I like that you seem to be mixing it up a little bit more.
sakeng 3 years ago
awesome...I'll go watch the other parts of it
AGK 3 years ago
WOW!
Amazing stuf.. thanks for the great upload
SuperFlyNB 3 years ago
thx for upload
Dimitrij90 3 years ago
The HD versions of these videos look AMAZING!
baudiirocz 3 years ago 3
I want a tweed jacket and a corkscrew pipe now....
tempemonkey2323 3 years ago 3
Thanks so much for this!
wawa2 3 years ago
I'm humble... Awesome.
ILYIAB 3 years ago
Ah...the temples of science.
omegavalerius 3 years ago