Star Wars: TIE Fighter "Sepan Civil War" Mission 3

[julesthemodest]

Best game ever!

[yousini]

this game had good music

[MegaArmyof2]

dont TIE fighters shoot the cannons from the bottom of the cockpit? Why is it shooting from the sides like an x-wing? Different model?

[swaaye]

@MegaArmyof2 It's a TIE Interceptor.

[Master2020]

Oh, I do SO wish that this game would be re-done for the PC or console. It rules! A pity it can't run on my Win7 machine (I tried).

[cferrel09]

@Master2020

Try dos box?

[dudestr5552]

Greatest computer game ever made. Bar none.

[yaosio]

If you had the CD audio version you missed out on the awesome music when certain events occurred. Of course, on modern systems you also lose out, as your optical drive has to be connected to your sound card for the music to work.

[ThrilloVanHouten]

God, this game had the most beautiful music I've ever heard in a videogame...

[MegamanNG]

Just hearing Harkov makes me want to give Harkov the fight... he's a traitor after all.

If they remake X-Wing and TIE Fighter, it would rock big time and people would love LucasArts for life.

[willd3rbeast]

IMUSE is amazing, I dont know why it never became a standard in games.

[ancalites]

Possibly the best use of midi music ever?

[kaoruneko16]

I had the collector's CD.

[Stevo5000X]

Damn I love the music in the collectors series... Why the fuck would totally games change it?

[swaaye]

Careful. "Collectors Series" was the edition that they changed to CD audio. This one here is the "Collectors CDROM". lol

They changed to CDA because they didn't want to try to make IMUSE work in Windows 9x. Very bad move, of course.

[darthbandon10]

@swaaye X-Wing Alliance had an updated method for dynamic music that worked in Windows, shame it wasn't ported back for TIE Fighter\X-Wing.

[Stevo5000X]

There talking about remaking it, but something tells me that they might fuck it up. What do yall think?

[troutbum86]

I hope they remake it cause i cant get it working on my pc

[Stevo5000X]

same here, have you tried dosbox? Im just not good enough with computers to even try dosbox.

[ShainEighmey]

Definitely one of my favorite games of all time!

[Arilouu]

best game i've ever played

[TheBlitz1]

best game ive ever played also

and im a heavy pc gamer

[Arilouu]

yes dude, especially i liked the mission when you flight with darth vader in the same squad with a tie defender, awesome.

[Antiworld23]

I hated fighting the damn shuttles, when you blasted them they'd often fly back at you in your face, I think the assault gun boats did that too.

[slims999]

Can't I just buy the Tie Fighter CD and install it to my PC?

[guitarfan01]

hey, what configuration was your computer when you recorded this? Mine jerks all over the place (but it's an old dell laptop; all I've done is add RAM to it)

[Nabukuduriuzhur]

There were a number of editors out there that made it even more interesting when one had beaten the game a few times the normal way. One could change the enemy to be tougher, change one's ship to be better or worse, etc..

[lewchootrain]

I never liked the dual shot, I just did the fast left/right one

[swaaye]

I always had better luck against the annoying A-Wings and other super fast fighters when I went with linked guns.

[rashkavar]

@swaaye linked vs single fire is situational, in my opinion. For when you want the odd shot to count, like against high-speed, low durability ships like A-wings and interceptors, linked is awesome. If it's got the durability to survive a hit or two of linked fire, I prefer single fire.

[swaaye]

@rashkavar I agree. Linked gives precise combined fire against those annoying-but-weak opponents. Single shot lets you splash slower opponents with less delay between shots. Although I suppose in the end it really comes down to how one prefers to deal with each threat.

[rashkavar]

@swaaye I've been replaying the game recently, and I seem to have developed a strong tendency to use linked fire except when attacking corvettes and bigger...and even then when I'm trying to disable a capital ship before it obliterates me in my POS gunboat. I'm greatly looking forward to the missile boat and defender missions.

[GeorgeLRockwell87]

@rashkavar I was just the opposite. I fired single fire against fighters, since it allowed me to have a greater rate of fire against more maneuverable targets, while I fired linked against larger targets, since all of the shots were more likely to hit.

[PahaLukki]

I don't know any game that has as intense a soundtrack as this. The dynamic nature of it is awesome. In most games a dynamic soundtrack is created by a handful of battle songs and the rest for non-battle situations. So each time a battle starts you hear the same shit until the battle stops. But in this game the music is composed of multiple small few second pieces and it aknowledges a kill, the arrival of new units in the area and whatnot. It's just not done anywhere else I know!

[swaaye]

It'll also add and drop instruments depending on the action. It's more than just small pieces of music joined together. A showcase for the flexibility of MIDI.

[lwnf360]

Yes it was called iMUSE and it was awesome. LA were pioneers of gameplay reactive audio, which disappeared for about 15 years before being re-discovered.

[willd3rbeast]

I love this game!!!

the music and sound effects and voice acting are unmatched!

[simonsaid321]

I changed my config to E7200, 4GB RAM, Nvidia Geforce, still cannot use FRAP to capture.

Too bad, I targeted to record the whole Defender of the Empire in Hard difficulty

[swaaye]

I found that FRAPS causes problems unless you set it to record at 60fps. I'm not sure anymore whether either Direct3D or OpenGL works better in DOSBOX when using FRAPS. D3D support isn't in DOSBOX 0.72 though, you need to get an unofficial version to have it.

[simonsaid321]

I tried DOSBox 0.72 OpenGL version with 60fps in FRAPs already. Maybe it's Intel CPU problem.

Btw, I will use DosBox to capture. But the problem is that I need to use Adobe Premier to edit the movie to add MIDI.

[BlizBob]

This game cost me two Gravis analog pro joysticks... and they weren't easy to break.

[willd3rbeast]

Broke 1 thrust master pro. and years later a ms force feedback joystick.

This game was worth the break, but it really sucked that you had to stop playing and purchase the game.. Especially if its 2 am in the morning and all stores are closed lol.

[Ironzealot7531]

best space combat sim evar

[shiftm4n]

this is SICK. im guilty in that i remember everything they are saying in each of these levels

[Tigerman1138]

Do you know which mission, so that I may find it on Youtube again, has the player join "The Inner Circle" within the secret order?

[Bloodlyshiva]

...It's not specific, it's based off score and secondary objectives completed.

[sabre517]

One really amusing thing about this game was that if you got your target to 1% hull condition, but weren't able to finish it off .. you'd see it flying around with 100% shields and 1% hull soonish. Okay, that wasn't amusing really. :) Heh.

[BVargas78]

Though the musics old school midi the tunes are really cool

[tagabundok1]

Seriously, I'd buy the tunes from this game and Dark Forces if Lucas Arts put them on market.

[ColonelFatso]

I still think the Sound Blaster Pro sound was waaaaay better than whatever haughty-taughty synth you have there.

[swaaye]

Well, I used to run a SBPro2 and eventually installed an Ensoniq Soundscape alongside it. FM synthesis is an interesting sound. I do enjoy listening to FM synth and GM.

The above vid was made with DOSBOX and a ~180 MB soundfont (SGM-180) running through an Audigy 2. If you want to hear what it really sounds like, check out the MP3s in the the video details on the sidebar.

[Shamash9]

If I had a TIE fighter I would be very popular.

[soupingardenshinicel]

old school star wars game

[InvaderJim42]

Methinks you and I should collaborate on an FAQ/walkthrough for this game, Swaaye!

[UncappingBadger]

I found this game far to easy however it is a classic and i loved it none the less.

[Significantpower]

Try playing on hard while attempting to get bonus goals. Even with a guide it is a huge pain.

[thecamman2]

wow this brings back memories.... Yup... just me in our cold sunroom in the winter where I kept my computer.  Man that was fun!

[Napalm006]

The music almost brings me to tears. I remember it so well. For years and even to this day I still hum the dynamic battle tunes. The IMUSE music system was the best and this game is truly one of the greatest of all time and will always hold a special place in my heart.

FOR THE GREATER GLORY OF THE EMPIRE! DESTROY EVERYTHING!

[jaguar200]

i have a problem when i play tie fighter when i get near a 3d object the game lags like hell i don't no y!!??

[wageslaveZ]

This game was the reason I almost flunked geometry in 9th grade... >:) It was too much fun being the bad guy in this game. The shielded TIEs, the gunboat, and missile boat would've killed off the rebels if their production sites weren't blown up by the Rebs and Admiral Zaarin's coup. Too many memories, back in the day when a 166MHz Pentium with 128MB RAM and a Soundblaster AWE32 was king... Screw Moore's Law!!! I want this goddamned game to work on my next laptop! Anyone know how?

[swaaye]

Google up Dosbox, chief. The answers lie there!

[gilthanas666]

So true about shielded Ties and such. That damn Zaarin! Fuck the rebellion! The galaxy has room for only one ruler and that's EMPEROR PALPATINE! If only at least some of the Tie Advanced manufacturing plans would have saved from destruction the rebels would have been kicked out of the galaxy single-handedly. All hail and bow the Emperor!

[MegaPhilX]

That game was awesome! The music and voices were great!

[hermanbouman]

I love this game! Sometimes I get carried away and go to close to a star destroyer when making my turns to follow a X wing... You'll get he shock of your life about 2 seconds before you notice that you're going to crash into the star destroyer... That was too close... Or trying to shoot a Y-wing when it's heading for a platform and you accidentally miss the y-wing and hit your own platform... It will answer your fire 20 times worse

[simonsaid321]

I finally got the 2nd Hand CD from Amazon.

I used my on-board sound card to emulate General Midi. It just gives me feel like using my AWE32 in old time. The only problem is that I will need to increase my CPU cycle from 30000 to 70000 when switching from briefing to combat everytime.

[swaaye]

set "cycles=max" in dosbox.conf. this will make dosbox use the most cycles your computer can handle. it should work ok.

[simonsaid321]

It's not a problem for me right now.

Are you using fraps to capture the movie or the dosbox capture function?

[simonsaid321]

Fraps is not ok for me.

I used the dosbox default capture function, can only capture 4-OP midi, not general midi, but smooth.

Want to capture general midi, haha

[swaaye]

Yeah I had to buy FRAPS so I could capture the MIDI with the gameplay. If you do that though you need to set FRAPS to capture at 60 fps or DOSBOX will get all choppy. This is assuming you have a 60 Hz LCD, of course. I then decimate it back to 30fps for encoding within Virtualdub. Kinda a pain in the rear, but it works.

[simonsaid321]

I have tried FRAPS. By default on dosbox, FRAPS is not detected. When I switch to opengl and ddraw, it's not recognized. I have tried dosbox-cvs and FRAPS icon appears, but during capture, the performance is too bad.

I have thought of another method. Use of dosbox capture function(will only capture wave, not midi), combining the use of audio recording software(Record both wave & midi)

But the problem comes from the zmbv codec. I am working on it now

[swaaye]

Yeah you need to use OpenGL output to get FRAPS to work. Then, with FRAPS set to 60 fps video recording, it should work... If your system isn't fast enough for ~60 fps and video encoding at the same time, that could be the problem. I think a dual core helps out in this situation.

[Teddywolf]

man i almost upper cutted my aunt when she cracked the cd. god damn i loved this game

:( thanks for posting

[JMN1985]

One of the best games ever made.

[1LTD1]

No game has ever felt as impressive as Tie Fighter did in mid 90's.

And I wasn't even a star wars fan back then!

The level of immersion the spoken radio traffic and well scripted missions provided felt totally unique back then.

..Hell, it still looks very good and playable.

I kept wanting to reach "X" and "F9" on my keyboard during the entire video:p

Thanks for posting.

[GUNtau9]

I have the first collectors CD and it runs fine on my computer without DOSBox but the audio doesn't seem to work (music doesn't work, audio has a lot of static. Can you help me out?

[kgvonmenng]

look up TIE fighter on Wikiatech, has detailed instructions for getting it to run off Dosbox. use a usb joystick and in dosbox.config change joystick type to '2axis' and set 'timed=false'. should work perfectly.

[wisheywashywhitey]

im running it on vista and the dosbox.config wont save my changes. Help please!!

[kgvonmenng]

argh stupid youtube misplacing my replies

[Pentagram010]

How did you do these videos?

[swaaye]

I use DOSBOX and FRAPS.

[Cerberus664]

I love this game. They should remake it with better graphics.

[ytmndman]

Best game ever

[kgvonmenng]

yea really post more missions please :)

[swaaye]

lol. It's a lot of work to make these vids but hey maybe I will since I apparently have fans now! heh heh

[kgvonmenng]

Once I get a functional joystick (mouse flight sucks) for my copy, I'll stop bugging you, hah. On that note, do you use a usb joystick or an old parallel port one for Dosbox TIE CD?

[swaaye]

I have the USB version of the Flightstick Pro. I do have my old gameport-based Flightstick too though lol.

[simonsaid321]

You are right! You have quite a lot of fans :)

I have a Dosbox & what is the setting?

It's slow on my dosbox.

Plus, my T/F DOS CD lost. Do you know where I can find it?

[swaaye]

check out the official FAQ on DOSBOX's website. They have lots of tips to get things running better.

[kgvonmenng]

I was lucky to find my super old cd, but you can probably find one on amazon for cheap (make sure it's not the 98 version).

[Mrster]

Yeah same for me, eventhough it was set to autocycle (to fit the computer I was using) but instead I put manualy to 3000 and now it works perfectly.

[simonsaid321]

so great!!

Do you have anymore?

I miss the midi & this atmosphere.

Your skill is good too.

[kgvonmenng]

Dude you are ten kinds of awesome for posting this DOS TIE Fighter Collectors sweetness.

[swaaye]

This is the TIE Fighter Collectors' CD-ROM from 1995. It's for DOS and is the final version that came out with the original interactive MIDI soundtrack. They added 2 mission packs, 640x480 support, and a ton of voice work.

[Mrster]

So what version is this? I have the original, but it has no voice acting and the HUD is different. Then I have the 95-version, but it doesn't have the interactive MIDI soundtrack and the graphics are different. What version is this and how did you get this? Basically what's keeping me from playing the remake is the absence of the cool music.

[kgvonmenng]

Google up the Dosbox DOS emulator and find a copy of "TIE Fighter Collector's CD" on ebay/amazon (not Win95/98 version). Should be cheap, and instructions for running TIE CD under Dosbox are on WikiTechia.