As a person of African Descent I'll say this, Black people have been screwed over many times you would think they know when stay away from other races. Believe what you want to believe. Gaddafi did more than most of those fake ass African leaders, with the exception of Mandela.
@PoliticalAbstract Certainly. Here's an excerpt from an investigation on Sankara's murder:
MOMO: …there was another meeting in Libya, where the Sankara problem was discussed some more. What emerged was that if we were to use Burkina Faso as a launching pad, Sankara had to be eliminated. Blaise Compaoré, would become president, and he would help us…
SILVESTRO: And was Gaddafi okay with the plan?
MOMO: Yes, yes … please remember, this must all remain confidential.
@PoliticalAbstract My pleasure. For me, Gaddafi can never be forgiven. But everyone is entitled to his own view and at least you present your opinions respectably. Thanks.
@Mr1700 Yes, and Gaddafi was a strong ally of Compaore (the traitor) all along. That's one reason I feel Gaddafi was a fraud revolutionary. Sankara was the real deal.
I understand what you and Mr700 are saying but I guess right now the main focus is on the Libyan people who are being slaughtered, raped, and tortured everyday thanks to Nato backing the rebels. Say what you will about Gaddafi, but you have to admit the Libyan people are in a bad situation.
@PoliticalAbstract There are problems with regionalism and rogue militiamen in Libya now, but honestly the Libyan people are far better off now than they were under Gaddafi. They don't have to worry about the Revolutionary Councils and their secret police. In Libya, Gaddafi was much reviled. Gaddafi's whole spiel about uniting Africa was not sincere. His first dream was to lead a united Arab world. When they rejected him, he turned to Africa. Furthermore, he bankrolled thugs like Idi Amin.
I respectful disagree with you, it is really bad there, and many cities in Libya are all in ruins and the water supply is low. This is turning out to be another Iraq. Killing innocent children, raping women, and torturing and killing Black people doesn't scream better off. But whatever, I'm not arguing, I'm just saying.
@PoliticalAbstract It's true that many cities in Libya are in ruins. I was there a short time ago. Sirte has been completely destroyed and Tawargha is a ghost town terrorised by Misratan militias. The situation probably isn't great in Sabha and Jufra either. Many undisciplined revolutionaries took their revenge on the pro-Gaddafi minority and those areas most associated with him. Similarly, Misrata is is ruins because of Gaddafi's bombardment. It's bad, no doubt. But the future will be bright.
@PoliticalAbstract Libya now has its first opportunity to be both prosperous and non-totalitarian. War causes destruction no matter what. But it's also true that Gaddafi's soldiers and mercenaries committed atrocities during and before the war. And most Libyans are vehemently anti-Gaddafi. It wasn't al-Qaeda and teens on "hallucination pills". I'm not getting it from online newspapers (it's hard to trust any), but rather from the people on the ground who lived it.
@PoliticalAbstract And you're right about abuses against black people in Libya, which is because many Nigeriens and Chadians were used as mercenaries (some paid, others true supporters of Gaddafi) to crush the revolution. It's really unfortunate, and many Libyans I've talked to are troubled by it. It's racial profiling, just like the American TSA has been accused of, combined with vigilantism. Still, I've met many black revolutionaries as well. Also, I appreciate your respectful discussion.
Actually many of them were not mercenaries, many of them were just everyday people, and mind you there are Black Libyans, which many people apparently can't wrap their head around that fact. I see what your saying but atlas, the way things went down in Libya, I am not happy about it. Anyway, thank you for hearing me out and thank you for sharing your opinions, even if we both don't entirly agree with each other.
@PoliticalAbstract Yes, a lot of Gaddafi's foreign fighters were not trained soldiers, and many were genuinely loyal to him. And yes, like I said, there are a lot of black Libyans. Ethnically, it's a really diverse country. In my opinion, Gaddafi is ultimately responsible because he refused to just step down at the start of it all. Anyway, yes, it's good constructive discussion and thanks for considering my opinions too even if you don't agree.
kid your doing a right thing and i support you, but instead of worrying about libya you must worry about what's happening in the u.s. right now, the government does these things for many reasons, one of the reasons was to distract you about the reality about this country and whats going on in this country. So in other words when you turn around and try to support another country uncle sam is behind you fucking you in the ass.
I get what you're saying and you're right, there's a lot crazy mess the US government is doing right now. I mean look how the media is paying more attention to useless mess like reality tv and Kim K instead of how people every single day are losing their jobs and houses. But at the same time you need to also know what's going on outside this country, whether you like it or not, what we do to other countries will one day have a negative impact on us.
i think as Susan Lindauer said, the Lockerbie was also an inside job, some CIA men did illegal drug dealing so the inspectors travelling on the Pan Am had to go, they saw it fine to bomb the plane, it had absolutely nothing to do with Libya or Gaddafi
Also the same armed citizen-soldiers as Switzerland:
"Libya()most democratic state in the world.()Jamahiriya()the highest form of democracy in which the traditional institutions of government are abolished, and all power belongs to the people directly and through the people's committees and people's congresses.
The state is divided into many communities which are self-guided 'mini-states within a state',with full authority in their district"
The west is arrognant, they think because Libya is a "third-world" country, that they can do whatever they want. Who the fuck gave them the attority to invade someones country and kill their leader. SMH...they will be sorry, just watch.
I dont know how old you are, but i can hear on your voice your not that old.. and most of kids in your age dont even know where or what Libya is.. You have an open mind and open eyes, That's great!! Keep up the good work bro... Peace to Gaddafi and his family...
Little man you continue on this path and you will be a leader one day. Thanks for this video it shows the view that alot of people have but are too scared to voice. Props to you.
Great photos. Your analysis is intriguing and I hope that this video has success on Youtube. Send it out to all you know. Don't worry about changing the world right now. It could get quite frustrating given the more knowledge you possess. FORWARD WE GO ! Your contribution in telling the truth to those close to you is precious, priceless, and based on principle.
Gaddafi gave a fuck about Africa or the Libyans. He just gave some money to african dictators for his own grandstanding, nothing but.
Sadly, many blacks have an inferiority complex that, inter alia, makes them prone to blindly follow anyone who claims to be on their side...
Liberator27 2 months ago
@Liberator27
As a person of African Descent I'll say this, Black people have been screwed over many times you would think they know when stay away from other races. Believe what you want to believe. Gaddafi did more than most of those fake ass African leaders, with the exception of Mandela.
PoliticalAbstract 2 months ago
@PoliticalAbstract Gaddafi was involved in the assassination of Thomas Sankara. He can never be forgiven for that.
shzywansui 2 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@shzywansui
Evidence? Please give me some info before you just tell me stuff, please and thank you.
PoliticalAbstract 2 months ago
@PoliticalAbstract Certainly. Here's an excerpt from an investigation on Sankara's murder:
MOMO: …there was another meeting in Libya, where the Sankara problem was discussed some more. What emerged was that if we were to use Burkina Faso as a launching pad, Sankara had to be eliminated. Blaise Compaoré, would become president, and he would help us…
SILVESTRO: And was Gaddafi okay with the plan?
MOMO: Yes, yes … please remember, this must all remain confidential.
shzywansui 2 months ago
@shzywansui
This isn't gonna change how I feel regardless however, thank you for giving me some info, some people just say whatever and not present some info.
PoliticalAbstract 2 months ago
@PoliticalAbstract My pleasure. For me, Gaddafi can never be forgiven. But everyone is entitled to his own view and at least you present your opinions respectably. Thanks.
shzywansui 2 months ago
@shzywansui
I respect your opinion and thank you for your time, if there's anything you want to talk about or show me, feel free to tell me. :)
PoliticalAbstract 2 months ago
@shzywansui so ghaddafi was on board against sankara? fuck him then
Mr1700 1 month ago
@Mr1700 Yes, and Gaddafi was a strong ally of Compaore (the traitor) all along. That's one reason I feel Gaddafi was a fraud revolutionary. Sankara was the real deal.
shzywansui 1 month ago
@shzywansui
I understand what you and Mr700 are saying but I guess right now the main focus is on the Libyan people who are being slaughtered, raped, and tortured everyday thanks to Nato backing the rebels. Say what you will about Gaddafi, but you have to admit the Libyan people are in a bad situation.
PoliticalAbstract 1 month ago
@PoliticalAbstract There are problems with regionalism and rogue militiamen in Libya now, but honestly the Libyan people are far better off now than they were under Gaddafi. They don't have to worry about the Revolutionary Councils and their secret police. In Libya, Gaddafi was much reviled. Gaddafi's whole spiel about uniting Africa was not sincere. His first dream was to lead a united Arab world. When they rejected him, he turned to Africa. Furthermore, he bankrolled thugs like Idi Amin.
shzywansui 1 month ago
@shzywansui
I respectful disagree with you, it is really bad there, and many cities in Libya are all in ruins and the water supply is low. This is turning out to be another Iraq. Killing innocent children, raping women, and torturing and killing Black people doesn't scream better off. But whatever, I'm not arguing, I'm just saying.
PoliticalAbstract 1 month ago
@PoliticalAbstract It's true that many cities in Libya are in ruins. I was there a short time ago. Sirte has been completely destroyed and Tawargha is a ghost town terrorised by Misratan militias. The situation probably isn't great in Sabha and Jufra either. Many undisciplined revolutionaries took their revenge on the pro-Gaddafi minority and those areas most associated with him. Similarly, Misrata is is ruins because of Gaddafi's bombardment. It's bad, no doubt. But the future will be bright.
shzywansui 1 month ago
@PoliticalAbstract Libya now has its first opportunity to be both prosperous and non-totalitarian. War causes destruction no matter what. But it's also true that Gaddafi's soldiers and mercenaries committed atrocities during and before the war. And most Libyans are vehemently anti-Gaddafi. It wasn't al-Qaeda and teens on "hallucination pills". I'm not getting it from online newspapers (it's hard to trust any), but rather from the people on the ground who lived it.
shzywansui 1 month ago
@PoliticalAbstract And you're right about abuses against black people in Libya, which is because many Nigeriens and Chadians were used as mercenaries (some paid, others true supporters of Gaddafi) to crush the revolution. It's really unfortunate, and many Libyans I've talked to are troubled by it. It's racial profiling, just like the American TSA has been accused of, combined with vigilantism. Still, I've met many black revolutionaries as well. Also, I appreciate your respectful discussion.
shzywansui 1 month ago
@shzywansui
Actually many of them were not mercenaries, many of them were just everyday people, and mind you there are Black Libyans, which many people apparently can't wrap their head around that fact. I see what your saying but atlas, the way things went down in Libya, I am not happy about it. Anyway, thank you for hearing me out and thank you for sharing your opinions, even if we both don't entirly agree with each other.
PoliticalAbstract 1 month ago
@PoliticalAbstract Yes, a lot of Gaddafi's foreign fighters were not trained soldiers, and many were genuinely loyal to him. And yes, like I said, there are a lot of black Libyans. Ethnically, it's a really diverse country. In my opinion, Gaddafi is ultimately responsible because he refused to just step down at the start of it all. Anyway, yes, it's good constructive discussion and thanks for considering my opinions too even if you don't agree.
shzywansui 1 month ago
@PoliticalAbstract The whole thing is available at pambazuka(dot)org/en/category/features/58463. Feel free to share your thoughts.
shzywansui 2 months ago
kid your doing a right thing and i support you, but instead of worrying about libya you must worry about what's happening in the u.s. right now, the government does these things for many reasons, one of the reasons was to distract you about the reality about this country and whats going on in this country. So in other words when you turn around and try to support another country uncle sam is behind you fucking you in the ass.
FATPEOPLERULE123 2 months ago
@FATPEOPLERULE123
I get what you're saying and you're right, there's a lot crazy mess the US government is doing right now. I mean look how the media is paying more attention to useless mess like reality tv and Kim K instead of how people every single day are losing their jobs and houses. But at the same time you need to also know what's going on outside this country, whether you like it or not, what we do to other countries will one day have a negative impact on us.
PoliticalAbstract 2 months ago
another gret and funny video on Gaddafi and Libya:type in youtube: Truth about Gaddafi's Libya that NATO, CNN, BBC, Al Jazeera & CO Keep Hidden
evasassy 2 months ago
i think as Susan Lindauer said, the Lockerbie was also an inside job, some CIA men did illegal drug dealing so the inspectors travelling on the Pan Am had to go, they saw it fine to bomb the plane, it had absolutely nothing to do with Libya or Gaddafi
evasassy 2 months ago
@evasassy
See, that's what I thought, I knew he had nothingto do with it.
PoliticalAbstract 2 months ago
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Also the same armed citizen-soldiers as Switzerland:
"Libya()most democratic state in the world.()Jamahiriya()the highest form of democracy in which the traditional institutions of government are abolished, and all power belongs to the people directly and through the people's committees and people's congresses.
The state is divided into many communities which are self-guided 'mini-states within a state',with full authority in their district"
Vladimir Chamov former Russian ambass. to Libya
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DCLayla 2 months ago
@DCLayla
The west is arrognant, they think because Libya is a "third-world" country, that they can do whatever they want. Who the fuck gave them the attority to invade someones country and kill their leader. SMH...they will be sorry, just watch.
PoliticalAbstract 2 months ago
@PoliticalAbstract theproblem is they will not be sorry :( they will get lucrative oil, building, weapons etc contracts
evasassy 2 months ago
@evasassy
Sadly, I concur, they won't be sorry now but maybe one day they will...
PoliticalAbstract 2 months ago
Even I made this video, my favorite part out of it was the Gaddafi/Obama part. lol.
PoliticalAbstract 2 months ago
Bellissimo video,un saluto Ciao.
928487 2 months ago
@928487
Thank you please share this video with others.
PoliticalAbstract 2 months ago
Lockarbie = IRAN job. They claimed they did i & they had good reason to do it
"Disco bombing" = Mossad job
saderyt 2 months ago
@saderyt
Oh really, Iran was behind it? I just learned something new today.
PoliticalAbstract 2 months ago
@PoliticalAbstract
You can look at:
- wiki/Pan_Am_Flight_103 paragraph "Claims of responsibility" Iran says we did it
- wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655 this passenger airplane was shot down by US warship
- guardian.co.uk/world/2009/oct/02/lockerbie-documents-witness-megrahi
witness where paid by Department of Justice
saderyt 2 months ago in playlist More videos from PoliticalAbstract
@saderyt
Ok thank you for the articles, it makes sense now.
PoliticalAbstract 2 months ago
Peace bro.. I like your video ! TRUTH !!!
I dont know how old you are, but i can hear on your voice your not that old.. and most of kids in your age dont even know where or what Libya is.. You have an open mind and open eyes, That's great!! Keep up the good work bro... Peace to Gaddafi and his family...
1Love
GangStarr4ever 2 months ago
@GangStarr4ever
I'm 20 btw, thanks.
PoliticalAbstract 2 months ago
Little man you continue on this path and you will be a leader one day. Thanks for this video it shows the view that alot of people have but are too scared to voice. Props to you.
lebodoian 2 months ago
@lebodoian
Ignorance is the death of all humans, thank you.
PoliticalAbstract 2 months ago
OUTSTANDING! BRAVO!
You have done your homework! Very impressive. Wisdom and Truth.
achangegonecomeee 2 months ago
@achangegonecomeee
Thank you very much. Not all of us Americans are unaware of the outside world, please see part 2.
PoliticalAbstract 2 months ago
Great photos. Your analysis is intriguing and I hope that this video has success on Youtube. Send it out to all you know. Don't worry about changing the world right now. It could get quite frustrating given the more knowledge you possess. FORWARD WE GO ! Your contribution in telling the truth to those close to you is precious, priceless, and based on principle.
Peace and Blessings
GhaddafiSpeaks 2 months ago
@GhaddafiSpeaks
Thank you brother, please watch part 2 and leave a comment. I just wish more people would just open their eyes and see the bigger picture.
PoliticalAbstract 2 months ago