This skit is so great! I absolutely love it! We'll be performing it at my church this coming wednesday...I'm so excited..everyone please pray for our annointing so we can minister to our youth group. :)
At First I like the first couple of minutes, But I really don't like this at all. The guy said. I don't care about the other people problems, Just pray about your problems with God. yes we should pray about our problems, care about other people problems too! but just don't let it. worried you. leave it up to God, because God said Trust in Him and he will Straighten Our Path Proverbs 3:5-6.
It may be a little more difficult to realize the positive of the situation but our country as a whole has been conditioned to take the easy way out of any situation this may explain your outlook on the situation however I would like to challenge you to look at this and even life (to be fair I don’t know anything about you except what you have posted) in a positive way.
@Jazad1 You’re beliefs are the negative ones. Last time I checked, my dogma doesn’t demand that I believe that the world is going to end and that sinners and non-believers are going to be tortured for all eternity. Above 1 in 5 people in the world are Christian. So, 4 out of 5 people are going to burn in hell forever for not accepting your god’s ‘gift’. Hehe. Real positive thinking man.
@Jazad1 …And on free will being the reason why your god permits suffering…I do not have free will. I had no choice, but to exist. Given the choice I would have told Eve not to eat the fruit; especially considering that I am held accountable for it. Given the choice, I would have told the Romans to leave Jesus alone. For these reasons, and count-less others, I have not been granted free will, and neither have you.
@Jazad1 I once heard Harry Reid say in an interview that paying taxes is voluntary. He says that we have the free choice not to pay taxes. But one could say that if we didn’t we’d be put into jail. Your dogma states that I have freedom to accept or not accept Jesus, but I will burn in hell forever if I don’t. How could anyone see this sadistic, pointless, ultimatum as a ‘gift’ or these terms as ‘free’?
On additional note I don’t know if you realized that throughout out your posting on at least this video at least when arguing about this topic you present the most negative side of the argument while others attempt to illustrate the positive.
Is this such a outlandish idea? Would the world need police if there were no crime in the world? This perfect world that is being proposed by you can’t be used as a reference, when trying to explain why God does what he does, mostly because it doesn’t exist; yes in a perfect world God wouldn’t need to have people suffer so that can experience his works, but as well as in a perfect world there would be no sin.
You seem OK with suffering because you can connect it to the compassion of your god. Do you take pleasure in the knowledge that your god exercises his grace through the aimless suffering of his creation?
Sadistic: The deriving of pleasure, or the tendency to derive pleasure, from cruelty.
You are proposing that compassion is contingent upon suffering, thus suffering must happen. That is like saying firefighting is contingent on fires, thus fires must happen. Why not forgo the fires and firefighting? Why not forgo the dead babies and the compassion for them if for no other reason than there wouldn’t be dead, innocent babies. Isn’t this within your god’s power?
I see that what may seem twisted and sick may have an underlying message that has yet to be understood and while you may disagree with what I have purposed yet still you did not construct and opposing view. Please explain why this isn’t a rational explanation. While not Webster, Princeton University state “Darkness is the absence of light.”
@canaanav Thus bringing back up the argument that while you may bring examples of the situation that might not be liked in a modern society the same may be made for the opposing view. Could a person know what wealth is without first knowing of the ability of being poor? Say this out loud in public and see how it sounds. Can a person ever be happy without experiencing sadness?
I would like to congratulate you so far while condemning the expression of Christian beliefs unlike many who oppose the Christian way of life you haven’t said that you know the answer and are simply trying to grasp knowledge. And for the ease of continuing the conversation could the rest please be conducted at the top of the comment section please.
lets say that your parents always tells you that they have a friend whos incredible and almighty and the son of god you wouldnt believe them
then your closest friends would start talking about that same friend and you think they have gone crazy
but if you met that friend if you saw him and talked to him , you would know beyond all doubt that he is real and that he is worth living for. thats what meting christ is like
give it a seriuos try i promise you that you wont be dissapointed.
Strange I didn't get an email notifying me of your comment. I just happened to see it since I got a notification from 'liveingforchrist' on the same video.
Anyway, I'm not doubting the feeling you get from being on your path. It might be wonderful, but only if you really believe it. I could never see myself seriously believing in any man-made god. I say man-made because I doubt the gods wrote our religious works. Humans invented religions and they don't know more than you or I.
jesus was the father, son, and a prophet. he didnt pray to another god, he prayed to his father. god created him to be human this means he had to eat, drink, he had to be human. he was created as a sacrifice for our sins such as god did for abraham "i will provide the sheep". he provided the sheep for all of our sins in him. he said im god but more suttle "for the one greater then the church is here". and he didnt need to, people believe jsut by seeing him. i hope you prayers dont go to waste...
Yeah right, jesus (if he even existed) made no sacrifice whatsoever.
"Gee golly, I'm going to die and stay in hell for 3 days and then go to heaven to rule the universe for all eternity". Some sacrifice. I -wish- I could have the opportunity to make such a "sacrifice".
@piip4 there's so much more to it then that. while he was on the cross he took every sin that has ever been committed or ever will be committed upon himself and took the punishment for our sin so that we wouldn't have to.
I would be a believer as much as you are if I knew for a fact that Jesus did all that. The thing that puts me off is that you only have a book for "proof". A book that also talks about unicorns and talking animals\plants as well as the impossible noah's ark story and the guy who lived in a fish- amongs other things.
How can anyone take that seriously? The bible was written by humans, many years later than the events it tells about. Not even by eyewitnesses. Only -hearsay-. Don't be fooled.
it was written by eye witness's and saying jesus doesn't exists is like saying Julius Caesar doesn't exist. he was a real person. and they've compared it to other documents and from that day and age and the event match up. I'm not here to talk about the old testament and how outlandish it might seem. i care about Jesus Christ. i know it's kind of scary putting faith in something you can't touch but it is fact.
How can you possibly compare Jesus to Cæsar in terms of evidence of existence? Incredible, once you exclude the bible, there's really nothing.
There's no proof that jesus of the bible ever existed. You can argue that -a- jesus existed around that time, but that's a far reach from saying that he performed miracles on a regular basis.
I'm sure if he did what the bible said he did, everyone and their pet goat would write about him, draw pictures, interview etc. But there is nothing of that.
they have found more proof of jesus then most Caesars. one cesar the only proof of him is a coin but most people agree that he existed. several roman writing from eye witness's have described the resurrection of Jesus. a lot of people that day and age claimed to be the prophesied son of God none of them lasted past the death of that person why did Jesus's? most of jesus's disciples died a martyrs death why would they die for a lie?
Can you point me in the direction of some of that proof? I don't doubt -a- jesus existed, but if that jesus walked on water and did amazing tricks on a regular basis is entirey different. That needs a solid foundation of proof for any reasonable person to believe it.
I'm just saying, if it was well documented by countless people (miracles don't go unnoticed after all), then you wouldn't be relying on the bible for substance to your faith as there would be other sources of reference.
But yeah, it's about faith as you say. Let's say I tried to believe, converted to Shintoism. It worships nature and ancestors, sounds so noble. It's not the 'right' faith? It's about faith, yet people claim to know which is 'right' faith. That's what puts me off..
In John It says that there was someone else with God in the beginning, the word, the bible. The bible isn't this artifact in a musuem everyone comes to see. it's for everyone. I'm positive there are other records and references somewhere, but you also must know how do we know some of them even knew how to write?? and the bible is God's word it is about him and that IS the most important reference. Try going to a church if you try i think you might find out you are in for more than you think.
Try to Pray, it doesn't have to fancy it doesn't have to be emotional, but just try to talk to God ask him to do something in your life anything ( reasonable) and count on him to do it. If you don't fully believe that God WILL do it, it Definately won't come true. In a story 2 men ask God for rain in their fields, but only one went to go prepare his field for rain. Which one do you think got the rain, The one who Prepared
No there isn't proof, but thats not what its about. It's about you and God together. It's about believing in a higher power. And the bible is not just a book, it's a reaference and connection with God. I bet you didn't know that doctors learned to put blood into people instead of just taking out the"bad blood" from the bible. I think you should try to believe. Try to. It makes life and everything better if you have a friend, God, always there to be with you. NO MATTER WHAT. God won't fail you.
Heaven is truly beautiful and there is nothing like it but 4 a person 2 enter it they have 2 practice the right way through it. Jesus is not god nor the son.How can a son eat,drink,pray 2 another god and even die.Jesus (SAW)is a prophet.May Allah guide u 2 the right path...i really dun want ur prayers 2 go 2 wast. A religion is there 2 guide us not 4 us 2 believe in even though it's not truth. Do u really know who's jesus,who told u he's God or the son coz i know he never said Im god worship me
Great skit and well done! To the lady that was speakaing at the beginning - what church are you from & by any chance were you at Nationals? (Orlando '09)
God doesn't cause anyone to die. That is Satan's work, he kills, steals and distroys. That is what he does. God is life not death. God doesn't want anyone to die, he so much wanted this that he sent his Son (Jesus) to take our place, now that is true love! If you were the ONLY person left in this world he would have sent His Son to die in your place.
You gave an excellent response to the original debate. Thank you. The unicorn answer was fantastic. However, no such remains of this extinct animal matching the description of a "reem" have been found (not to say that they never will). There precedence in the bible of mythical animals such as flying horse (pegasus), dragons, and unicorns. A lot of Christians are returning to the Greek bible in order to re-examine the original translations of their god's word. Cont...
Cont... I caution that questioning the translations of the bible is a slippery slope. If you concede that the bible translations of the word 'unicorn' are incorrect, you could also accept that the translation of the word 'virgin' could have been incorrect. Giving credential to the possibility mistranslation of the bible has some very dire consequences. For example, the Hebrew word 'ha-almah' (young woman) does not equate to the Greek word 'parthenos' (virgin). That is a can of worms indeed.
Yes, you are correct. Another mis translation is When David states that 'Lions are at his feet', talking about enemies that wish to take away his royalty. That is mis translated as 'Peircing through my feet', which Christians refer to as proof of of Jesus' crucifixation.. There are many of these found in the Christian bible and children are taught these mistakes as truth, then pass them down.
Yes I believe you are right. Although someones faith is their own version of reality. If we truley wish to have faith, then we must accept what is necessary for that faith to become real. (You sound like you might be from the U.K.)
@gymnst37 From Maine. I've lived in 10 states in 14 years, 5 of which are in the Bible Belt. I'm actually in SC right now. I've met every sort of zealot in my travels. I love to vent on youtube.
Yeah , I'm in the Bible belt myself now. Ever hear of Lynchburg Virginia? Jerry Fallwell??? Try dealing with them. Love Maine, lived in Massachestts my self for a while.
Yes, you are correct. Another mis translation is When David states that 'Lions are at his feet', talking about enemies that wish to take away his royalty. That is mis translated as 'Peircing through my feet', which Christians refer to as proof of of Jesus' crucifixation.. There are many of these found in the Christian bible and children are taught these mistakes as truth, then pass them down.
I'd like for anyone else here to take a stab at my original question. Why does your god not grant 'free will' to everyone? Infant mortality is probably the most salient example of your god not granting 'free will' to all of us. Theres been three rather disturbing reasons given already, but I am still curious if anyone can come up with anything better. Cheers.
The bible was not written in english, so you have to go back to the original hebrew/greek to understand it. 'Unicorns', if translated correctly, were a wild ox, now extinct.
The 'reem' (reeym) also refers to a large bull type animal (one that is now extinct - Giganatic Bos primigeniua or aurochs)...One which Caesar says, 'These uri are scarcely less than elephants in size, but in their nature, color and form are bulls. Great is their strength and great their speed; they spare neither man nor beast when once; they have caught sight of them". Sounds like a real animal - at one time to me, one I would not want to cross in the wild...
Just a note. The etymology of the word 'unicorn' specifically applies to an animal species which has one horn. Right off the bat, Giganatic Bos primigeniua does not categorically fit that description. Honestly, I'd love to see a scientific discovery of such an animal. I have a friend that's a biologist and I'll spark up a conversation on this. It's very interesting.
He does grant free will to everyone. Satan just takes that free will away. Infant morality isn't caused by our loving Father in Heaven. It is caused also by the devil. Different things like genetics, some of them by drugs and alcohol, some just come out of the womb the wrong way. It isn't caused by God. Why would you blame it on Him?
Dogma, dogma, dogma. You need to read the bible and stop inserting things you hear from other zealots into the word of your god just because they sound nice. Almost all infant mortalities are caused by dehydration right out of the womb. You think that Satan is causing that!? LOL. Show me in the bible. If you can't, then you just bared false witness on an angel and you'll surely burn for that if you do not repent. Id even go as far to say what you just did is blasphemy.
you sure do say that word a lot dont you? I really dont care about what you think. I happen to read the bible everyday. And yes Satan is causing that so that people like you can blame it on God and then burn in Hell with him. And Satan is no longer an angel he is the worse devil of them all. And I dont need proof that he did it. I just know he did because I know God didn't. I have Faith in God and my faith is telling me it is the work of the devil that is killing these children.
Maybe you're right, god created Satan and isn't able to control him or maybe just doesn't want to control him. You should think about getting a church of your own or maybe preach on the streets. Yup, Satan is killing babies and you do not need the bible to say that. You're good. You certainly aren't baring false witness.
I would like to take a stab at this. I would like to establish rules: lets discus this like adults unlike some of your previous conversations, and to my best ability I will only use other works and facts not found in the bible (unless quoting to provide background) so with respect to that I would also ask that you don't use unproven theories or facts. Cont....
Cont...Would you know what night is without day or what is black without white? In comparison could people know how blessed they are (for arguments sake by GOD) without experiencing or hearing about the other options that may have presented themselves. To quote you “I am one of the happiest people I know. I love life…” in response to MizoreShirayuiSan. Cont....
This being said knowing that your life is better off than others has alerted you to the fact that others have suffered or at least not had as good of a life as you. I would like to thank you for your service to this country. Please respond to this if possible I am interested to see your response.
As a follower of Christ teachings I do not claim to know all the answer to all things; to be honest much of the world; however you seem to be going on a Christian bashing rampage and personally that rubs me the wrong way. You continuously propose the idea that if like the Christian bible teaches good then why does he allow for bad things to happen. cont...
While I don’t know why infants die prematurely, tsunamis (I hope this is the correct spelling) kill thousands of people, still I don’t and never will claim to but I present the simple explanation could you know what good is without evil, do you believe that if never experiencing light could you comprehend the idea of darkness.
To simply put it I purpose the idea that bad things happen to good or possibly even innocent people so that others across the world may come to know the works of Christ. Thus proposing the same dilemma that is seen college level ethics classes across the world today. If a one solider were to fight for his country and die would it be better than no standing army be available and countless citizens die.
@Jazad1 Those girls proposed the same idea in a less articulate way. They contended that the reason for miscarriages was so that the people living could show mercy and sympathy. Say this out loud in public and see how it sounds. Would you break your kid’s fingers so that they could appreciate the fact that they can still walk? What you are saying is that your god permits suffering so that we all can realize that he loves us. How could mercy exist without suffering? This is a sick posiition
Some friends of mine and me done this at ayouth service and it was hilarious!!!! Little did we know that an Ashley and a heather was gonna be there!!!! Hahaha they lost it when they watched it...
Ever heard of a word called "lame"? cause that's what you are very much right now! Also I am seventeen so if i were living at home it would be normal but i am not living at home. I am living with my mentally disabled sister, supporting her, so i believe you are the one who needs to get out of your mommy and daddy's basement and witness the real truthful world!
I'm glad you are taking care of your sister. She perhaps is proof that your god does not grant free will to everyone. What choices has your sister made? Maybe she chose to be disabled. Your god only knows. What is for sure though, jesus never cured anyone who was mentally disabled. Your go has a sick, sick sense of humor.
No she is just proof that God made everyone different but for a good reason. It really doesn't matter how smart you are in this world only how good and how much you love Him. Then you will go to a perfect world with your real Father who loves you and is not sick ever. I can't change how you see things but you can't change my views either. Maybe you should just grow up and stop trying to discourage other people's beliefs.
You are a sweet girl. I can tell. However, I too have taken care of people with special needs and it happens to be my wifes profession. I know plenty of children who are born without a chance, without choice, and suffering. Where is their free will and where is their ability to love? To think that your god had something to do with it is why I hate your god and your ideology. You are a sweet heart because of you, not because of your god. You are more moral than your religion.
I know you have a good heart too and I thank you for your compliments but I still believe what I do and I believe Christianity is not a religion but a relationship. I still believe everyone has freewill somewhere within them. I can't explain why I believe this but I just do. I just want people to except that others will believe differently than them and they have no right to criticize them for it.
Well, you have a great out look. I have reservations against anyone who 'can explain it'. Christians are the ones who, typically, are the judges; especially with non-believers. You have no idea how often I'm told that I'm going to hell for not believing. So my guard is up. Reason is the end of faith. It is what I strive for.
Really, no offense, but I am done talking to you. I am not going to say you are going to Hell. But the end of Faith will never come. Only the end of this world. Faith will always go on even after death. Faith, Hope, and Love are the greatest gifts you can have right now. So I am sorry if you will be disappointed in the end when Faith never dies. I know deep inside that everyone has Faith, they just have to make that one step to believe.
Maybe to you because you can't understand it. I already told you before Faith has a reason. It is reason. You just need to open your eyes man, else you will never be truly happy. You may think and feel happy. But in the end, you will never be happy.
Webster would disagree. Faith is not reason. Well known opposites of reason are emotion, tradition, and faith. They are opposite by definition. One uses reason to believe that the sun will rise tomorrow. One needs faith to believe that there will a rapture and the world will end in their life time. Big big difference.
I am one of the happiest people I know. I love life thank you. I've been 'blessed' without gods.
We are done with this argument! I can see now that all you care about is yourself and thinking your right. I change my mind about you being a good person. You are rude and will never just leave someone alone when they make their opinion. Science doesn't explain everything and neither does a prat. So just leave me alone now. I am tired of your know-it-all attitude. Thank you and goodbye!!!
I never said science explains it all. I never said the word "science". Up is opposite of down and faith is opposite of reason. That's not my opinion. You opened the can of worms sweet heart. I still think you're nice. Cheers,
Listen can we stop please? I really don't enjoy arguing, thank you for still thinking i'm nice but I just think we should both believe what we want and not criticize other people. I am sorry if that was what I was doing. Let's just be friends and let it go, ok?
never mind I dont want to be your friend after u posted that. just leave me alone and go live your so called perfect life. you'll quickly change your mind in the end. goodbye!
HAHAHA ROFL LOL you are so hilarious and what is with BOOOO? WHat are u 5? HAHAHA OMG You are something aren't u? I can't believe u are even an adult. I'm not yet and I don't care what u think of me. Oh man u need a real life. Cus in my opinion u don't have one. Oh man, BOOOO... That cracks me up!
Yes, I do enjoy what I do. I like to chat with irrational zealots. Twice I've even had some youtube zealots try to perform an exercism on me. It was fantastic. I think your nice for a little kid. It's kind of cool to just say what ever you want, huh? I find youtube exilerating. Thanks for being the way you are. Cheers.
Umm... Really? I am not a zealot I am a christian which is a BIIIIG difference. And calling me a little kid just proves your immaturity since I am 17 which means I am adolescence and not a child. And I am not the only one saying whatever I want and I really am not saying everything. I would like to throw a few cuss words at you but it is wrong and I didn't. Also u r an awful AWFUL liar! Cheers! Xp
You're not a little kid physically, just mentally. I joined the service when I was 16 and turned 17 in boot camp. I was a 6 year veteran by the time I was 23. Like I said way early on, pull the teat out of your mouth. I'd hope that gives you perspective, but it may be fruitless for me to try.
I'm letting you off easy, sweetie. We could debate this, but you're unarmed and it wouldn't be honorable for me to do so. I still like ya. Wink.
Enough with the sweetie think jerk! I don't care what u did when u were 17. Like I said I am living alone with my mentally disabled sister and working a part time job while trying to get all my schoolwork in to go to College to be a writer. So don't give me that crap about the teat you idiot. I am sick and tired of your oh I am so grown up talk and oh I know God is not real talk. Just grow up for real and I mean for REAL you creeper! Just leave me alone u baby!
You are stupid and I think u r just some idiot guy who satan is talking through but u r not satan cus satan would be worse than your sissy words. Now is the end of my conversation. You WONT be hearing from me again. Goodbye, Sayonara Baka-San and Damatte Yo with ur lies.
I don't know.... I think you'll miss me. I'll miss you. It feels too good to hate someone. I know you love to hate me and you might need some more of this. I am here for you when you need to let some more go. Bakakakaka Sheeewooooaaa.
Finally some action. They say patience is the most important thing when fishing.
If you are so confident, please youtube "anencephalic baby." How would you gauge their 'free will' on a scale from 1-10? Tell me about your gods plan for these kids.
i would gauge their free will at a ten, some of us just can't see that yet. MY God is also YOUR God, you apparently just can't see that yet, and i hope you will see that soon. God's plan for "these kids" is to show the world about him in the things they do or say. like i said God teaches the strong through the weak. thank you, peace;)
So your god makes dead, deformed babies for my long term benefit. I think I am getting it now. 49.4 out of a 1000 babies born in the world die so that I can understand my own free will. This is a perfect plan indeed.
How do I get to know the mind of your god like you do?
Oh no, I'm loosing it again. Do you think that your god could step it up a notch with his dead, deformed baby factory and maybe kill, say, 100 out of 1000 babies? I'm not quite getting enough understanding of my free will with just a 49.4 world infant mortality rate.
I'll pray for that. After all, the free will of all of us that didn't die immediately after birth is at stake. Lets pray for a slightly higher infant mortality rate.
you just don't get it do you? even if god did "step it up a notch" as you put it. he would do that to try to teach ppl. they will one day show the world his love for them and show them that it doesn't matter what you look like, how long you live, how painful it is or how hard it is to live your live for jesus christ. and i will pray, for you to see God's love for you and for him to help you see that he DOES care. i'm also going to pray for a MUCH higher christain rate. thank you, peace;)
Yes yes, lets pray for a higher christian rate. The fact that less than 1 in 5 people on the planet are christian is horrible. Jesus died for the whole planet, not measly 1/5 of it. We need more christians and dead, deformed babies for people to get it. Remember the tsunami in 2004? Well, it killed off about 200,000 non-christians in the south pacific islands and Indonesia in a single day. Lets pray for some more of that. God bless. Amen.
i'm so sorry you can't see God's love the way i do, and can't or rather don't want to see why he made ppl like them to teach us about his love even if they don't preach it themselves. and yes maybe we do need more christains and "deformed babies" for ppl to get it. what ever God does he does to teach us to love one another no matter what. maybe the tsunami was a way of showing how he could change ppl in a single day, even has horrific the deaths of ppl were. i hope you see how much he loves you.
No one will see your god's love like you do. You are either typing satire or you are completely crazy. Please, please, go to church. The koo-koo is out of the clock. You and your church leader need to go over all this. I find the typical zealot a bit crazy, but you have crossed a line. You need some help. Please go to your church and go over this conversation there. I have to be serious for once. No more on saying your god makes dead babies because he loves us. Stop.
Ummm... God doesn't make dead babies, these babies die or get deformed because of the awful way their mother's treat their bodies while being pregnant with them. It isn't God's fault. Why must everyone blame God for everything they hate???
Infant mortality happens naturally more often than not. The most common cause is dehydration and diarrhea. Birth mortality happens in all the animals, and humans are no exception. If not for science, human infant mortality rates would be a lot higher. That is exhibited in countries such as Angola, which is predominately christian nation. There 180 babies out of 1000 are born dead. You should do some research before you post here. Pretty much everything you said is wrong. Cheers.
Dude I don't care about your dumb research. All you care about are the supposed facts of this world. Heck this world wouldn't be here if not for God. All I'm trying to say is you need to look at the facts from our perspective before shooting them down and acting like a retard. Seriously dude I'm not saying that is the only way babies die. I'm just trying to tell u that God doesn't kill babies u ppl just blame all ur hate on him. dude just chill and stop being a retard...
3.me and my church leader don't hav anything to go over or talk about
4.i am sooo not a zealot
5.i don't need help, you do
6.god doesn't make babies that way careless ppl do, and yes he does love us even the dying babies
7.YOU stop being a jerk and please see that God loves you very much and he does not create your problems. he fixes them, like killing the babies so they don't live in pain all their lives. thank you, peace;)
i did look up the word zealot. i didn't say God "kills" babies, i said sometimes he lets them die peacefully so they won't hav to suffer through life. that is not how he shows his love to us, only to the babies and other ppl in way to much pain. please don't cuss i don't like it. God bless you, he loves you. thank you, peace;)
cchorsdeer, you need a morality check. Coming from me, that is condemning. Life is not 'suffering' and god is not doing infants a favor by offing them. Ive been given one life by my parents and I love it and have yet to suffer. Please stop spewing this sick baby killing agenda. This crap is coming out of you mouth and even your god has gotta be shaking his head. Go to church and learn the dogma the safe way instead of guessing.
i'm sorry. maybe im wrong but i won't stop searching for the truth. but i truly believe God is the only God and that he loves this world and everything in it. everything happens for a reason. im sorry about what i said and maybe someday we both can learn the whole truth and live how God wants us to live. im not guessing. God loves you. peace.
Well played. You really are a sweet heart and you have the best of intentions. I like to joke around and question people's reality. In the long run, it helps you decide what you really believe. Thanks.
"you just don't get it do you? even if god did "step it up a notch" [a.k.a kill more babies] as you put it. he would do that to try to teach ppl."
Honey, you need to print this all out and take it to your church. Go over it with you church leader line for line. You're bringing dogma to the table that even I've never seen before. If you want to buy into religion, you'll need to go to church and hone your position better.
Wow person u just don't give up do u? What's ur deal anyway? U to afraid that you'll be humiliated when u find out all this is true? Seriously dude open ur eyes and see the truth! Wow...
you still don't get it, geez, how am i to get through to you? i said IF he did, he would show ppl through the "deformed" babies meaning what they do or say, cuz whether you like it or not he speaks through them and has actually changed ppl through them. and you hav know right to tell me what to do or what to say to my church leader, since you don't even beleive in god's love in the first place. im sorry that you can't trust in God. thank you, peace;)
If there are any police or any authorities reading this, please understand that I do not think that dead, deformed babies or the 2004 tsunami are a good thing. I was trying to use satire to make a point. This poor child speaks on her own accord. I tried to help her realize that dead babies and natural disasters are a bad thing. If she decides to act out on these beliefs, please know that I tried to steer her towards help.
This man speaks of his own accord as well. If he decides to act out and kill Christians for their beliefs then I will inform u that MizoreShirayukiSan and cchorsedeer have tried their best to help him. I apologize for the arguments you have seen as well. Thank u! XD P.S. I seriously doubt poor cchorsedeer will act out on her beliefs in a bad way. She will only continue to encourage ppl to believe in our wonderful God! This man on the other hand I'd watch out for...
HAHA dude u seriously need to chill only someone who is possessed needs and exorcism and u are not close to being that good at evil. U r still pretty dumb...
lejendmythril, did you read what these two said about infant mortality rates? I know I'm sick and I like it. I have a great life without gods and unicorns, so there's no helping me. These kids basically told me that god takes the 'free will' from deformed dead babies so that I have an appreciation for my 'free will'. As evil as I am, I would rather die myself than permit a child to suffer by the hand of your god. I would challenge anyone who would think otherwise.
I did read it and it was only cchorsdeer who posted this stuff. Like I have been saying, God did kill these babies or make them that way. I just want you to understand that our God is not merciless. He is a loving and caring God. He just wants to take the pain away if only we would believe in Him. And also he has nothing to do with unicorns. That is fantasy this is reality, there is a wide difference in the two, why don't u look up fantasy and reality and see the difference for yourself...
U still don't get it canaanav. The unicorns in the bible r reality. The ones that are in stories and movies now are fiction. The unicorns in the bible and God r reality. why can't u see the truth in front of your big nose???
Hahahahahaaha. Of coarse child. Let me guess, the dragons in the bible are real too, and the ones in all the other books are fiction. I think I'm getting it now. This is called special pleading by the way. You've mastered it.
Hey can you mail me script? Thank you guys. God bless U all <3
k3bab007 5 days ago in playlist Christian Drama / Skit
I think each of the people, represent a certain church or domination? Or maybe a Christian aspect i.e. humility?
Rastalion93 5 months ago
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elsonvarkey 7 months ago
cool
m7love8 7 months ago
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elsonvarkey 8 months ago
This skit is so great! I absolutely love it! We'll be performing it at my church this coming wednesday...I'm so excited..everyone please pray for our annointing so we can minister to our youth group. :)
ariahmak 8 months ago
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elsonvarkey 7 months ago
Praying is a joke.....
GenerationBlackMist 8 months ago
@GenerationBlackMist YOUR LIFE IS A JOKE.
007supernova 7 months ago
@007supernova Ok? Praying still a joke though.....
GenerationBlackMist 7 months ago
@GenerationBlackMist It stil works for me.
007supernova 7 months ago
@007supernova I bet it does you crazy theist!
GenerationBlackMist 7 months ago
@GenerationBlackMist Ha, ha.
The joke is between your legs.
007supernova 6 months ago
SOOOOO...Who do you pray to & worship? Jesus Christ? or the Only God that Jesus prays & worships?
leSavaii 8 months ago
At First I like the first couple of minutes, But I really don't like this at all. The guy said. I don't care about the other people problems, Just pray about your problems with God. yes we should pray about our problems, care about other people problems too! but just don't let it. worried you. leave it up to God, because God said Trust in Him and he will Straighten Our Path Proverbs 3:5-6.
TheLifeOfAlvinLowery 9 months ago
I absolutely love the preacher at the end!!! he's soooooooo cute!!
haufman22 9 months ago
we don't know how to pray.. but the Holy Spirit is praying for us..(^^,)
philoyou26 10 months ago
I love the chick whose acting like a hippie! LOL
pepsicokemix 10 months ago
he was saying father god father god yes father god
mycatgoezmeow 1 year ago
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canaanav 1 year ago
This is the best! haha the little guy on the right makes me laugh so much!!! ahahaha xD
sweetiecherub 1 year ago
@canaanav
It may be a little more difficult to realize the positive of the situation but our country as a whole has been conditioned to take the easy way out of any situation this may explain your outlook on the situation however I would like to challenge you to look at this and even life (to be fair I don’t know anything about you except what you have posted) in a positive way.
Jazad1 1 year ago
@Jazad1 You’re beliefs are the negative ones. Last time I checked, my dogma doesn’t demand that I believe that the world is going to end and that sinners and non-believers are going to be tortured for all eternity. Above 1 in 5 people in the world are Christian. So, 4 out of 5 people are going to burn in hell forever for not accepting your god’s ‘gift’. Hehe. Real positive thinking man.
canaanav 1 year ago
@Jazad1 …And on free will being the reason why your god permits suffering…I do not have free will. I had no choice, but to exist. Given the choice I would have told Eve not to eat the fruit; especially considering that I am held accountable for it. Given the choice, I would have told the Romans to leave Jesus alone. For these reasons, and count-less others, I have not been granted free will, and neither have you.
canaanav 1 year ago
@Jazad1 I once heard Harry Reid say in an interview that paying taxes is voluntary. He says that we have the free choice not to pay taxes. But one could say that if we didn’t we’d be put into jail. Your dogma states that I have freedom to accept or not accept Jesus, but I will burn in hell forever if I don’t. How could anyone see this sadistic, pointless, ultimatum as a ‘gift’ or these terms as ‘free’?
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canaanav 1 year ago
@canaanav
On additional note I don’t know if you realized that throughout out your posting on at least this video at least when arguing about this topic you present the most negative side of the argument while others attempt to illustrate the positive.
Jazad1 1 year ago
@canaanav
What you have illustrated can’t be possible God has elected to give his people the ability of free will where some choice to squander their gift.
Please put @Jazad1 infront of your post so that it will be easier to follow our conversation and quickly reply.
Jazad1 1 year ago
@canaanav
Is this such a outlandish idea? Would the world need police if there were no crime in the world? This perfect world that is being proposed by you can’t be used as a reference, when trying to explain why God does what he does, mostly because it doesn’t exist; yes in a perfect world God wouldn’t need to have people suffer so that can experience his works, but as well as in a perfect world there would be no sin.
Jazad1 1 year ago
You seem OK with suffering because you can connect it to the compassion of your god. Do you take pleasure in the knowledge that your god exercises his grace through the aimless suffering of his creation?
Sadistic: The deriving of pleasure, or the tendency to derive pleasure, from cruelty.
canaanav 1 year ago
You are proposing that compassion is contingent upon suffering, thus suffering must happen. That is like saying firefighting is contingent on fires, thus fires must happen. Why not forgo the fires and firefighting? Why not forgo the dead babies and the compassion for them if for no other reason than there wouldn’t be dead, innocent babies. Isn’t this within your god’s power?
canaanav 1 year ago
@canaanav
I see that what may seem twisted and sick may have an underlying message that has yet to be understood and while you may disagree with what I have purposed yet still you did not construct and opposing view. Please explain why this isn’t a rational explanation. While not Webster, Princeton University state “Darkness is the absence of light.”
Jazad1 1 year ago
@canaanav Thus bringing back up the argument that while you may bring examples of the situation that might not be liked in a modern society the same may be made for the opposing view. Could a person know what wealth is without first knowing of the ability of being poor? Say this out loud in public and see how it sounds. Can a person ever be happy without experiencing sadness?
Jazad1 1 year ago
@canaanav
P.S.
I would like to congratulate you so far while condemning the expression of Christian beliefs unlike many who oppose the Christian way of life you haven’t said that you know the answer and are simply trying to grasp knowledge. And for the ease of continuing the conversation could the rest please be conducted at the top of the comment section please.
Jazad1 1 year ago
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chrisapollo 1 year ago
I really liked it ...it was funny..and yes has a good message..
600532 1 year ago
@ChurchAngel2007 he was saying for god for god not father god father god that wouldnt even sound right. just saying :)
TheInvader123 1 year ago
good work guys.....
viragaustin 1 year ago
for God for God for God for God for God for God for God for God for God lol LOVE IT!
brizayg 1 year ago
i know someone that pray like the the 1st one
lolas133 1 year ago
HAHA.. WERE DOING DIS ONEE FOR SURE IN THIS MONTH.. I TOTALLY LOVE THIS SKIT.LOL ITS SOOOO GFUNNY..LOL AND SO INTO THE MSSG. =]]
ladyekna 1 year ago
What was the first dude saying?!!
TeenageAnesu 1 year ago 12
@TeenageAnesu
He was saying Father God.
ChurchAngel2007 1 year ago
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123URABLE 1 year ago
@TeenageAnesu Father God... over and over and over.. I believe... lol
acn131 1 year ago
@TeenageAnesu he was saying "father god father god father god yes! father god father god yes!
ariahmak 8 months ago
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elsonvarkey 7 months ago
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elsonvarkey 8 months ago
Did you use sript?
TeenageAnesu 1 year ago 7
Aw i like the little preacher dude... LOL you guys did a GREAT job! keep it up guys!
prettyinpentecost10 1 year ago
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bitches get fucked
LukeWhitaker 1 year ago
Wonderful!!!
Quinette26 1 year ago
omgosh i cried watching this, its soo funny. amen
singergirl112 1 year ago
wow! you guys are great actors! especially the gossip one and the guy on the far right! well done
jeffacake96 1 year ago
hihih its so good and funny ..!
they did it good .
God Bless this childeren
DExLAUREN 2 years ago
I liked it a lot my youth group leader showed me and some friends this vid. but I was wondering what does CALEN say all the time.
Moony2222 2 years ago
piip4
lets say that your parents always tells you that they have a friend whos incredible and almighty and the son of god you wouldnt believe them
then your closest friends would start talking about that same friend and you think they have gone crazy
but if you met that friend if you saw him and talked to him , you would know beyond all doubt that he is real and that he is worth living for. thats what meting christ is like
give it a seriuos try i promise you that you wont be dissapointed.
TheQuerato 2 years ago
@ TheQuerato
Strange I didn't get an email notifying me of your comment. I just happened to see it since I got a notification from 'liveingforchrist' on the same video.
Anyway, I'm not doubting the feeling you get from being on your path. It might be wonderful, but only if you really believe it. I could never see myself seriously believing in any man-made god. I say man-made because I doubt the gods wrote our religious works. Humans invented religions and they don't know more than you or I.
piip4 2 years ago
jesus was the father, son, and a prophet. he didnt pray to another god, he prayed to his father. god created him to be human this means he had to eat, drink, he had to be human. he was created as a sacrifice for our sins such as god did for abraham "i will provide the sheep". he provided the sheep for all of our sins in him. he said im god but more suttle "for the one greater then the church is here". and he didnt need to, people believe jsut by seeing him. i hope you prayers dont go to waste...
UkeLuv 2 years ago
Yeah right, jesus (if he even existed) made no sacrifice whatsoever.
"Gee golly, I'm going to die and stay in hell for 3 days and then go to heaven to rule the universe for all eternity". Some sacrifice. I -wish- I could have the opportunity to make such a "sacrifice".
piip4 2 years ago
@piip4 there's so much more to it then that. while he was on the cross he took every sin that has ever been committed or ever will be committed upon himself and took the punishment for our sin so that we wouldn't have to.
liveingforchrist 2 years ago
I would be a believer as much as you are if I knew for a fact that Jesus did all that. The thing that puts me off is that you only have a book for "proof". A book that also talks about unicorns and talking animals\plants as well as the impossible noah's ark story and the guy who lived in a fish- amongs other things.
How can anyone take that seriously? The bible was written by humans, many years later than the events it tells about. Not even by eyewitnesses. Only -hearsay-. Don't be fooled.
piip4 2 years ago
it was written by eye witness's and saying jesus doesn't exists is like saying Julius Caesar doesn't exist. he was a real person. and they've compared it to other documents and from that day and age and the event match up. I'm not here to talk about the old testament and how outlandish it might seem. i care about Jesus Christ. i know it's kind of scary putting faith in something you can't touch but it is fact.
liveingforchrist 2 years ago
How can you possibly compare Jesus to Cæsar in terms of evidence of existence? Incredible, once you exclude the bible, there's really nothing.
There's no proof that jesus of the bible ever existed. You can argue that -a- jesus existed around that time, but that's a far reach from saying that he performed miracles on a regular basis.
I'm sure if he did what the bible said he did, everyone and their pet goat would write about him, draw pictures, interview etc. But there is nothing of that.
piip4 2 years ago
they have found more proof of jesus then most Caesars. one cesar the only proof of him is a coin but most people agree that he existed. several roman writing from eye witness's have described the resurrection of Jesus. a lot of people that day and age claimed to be the prophesied son of God none of them lasted past the death of that person why did Jesus's? most of jesus's disciples died a martyrs death why would they die for a lie?
liveingforchrist 2 years ago
@ liveingforchrist
Can you point me in the direction of some of that proof? I don't doubt -a- jesus existed, but if that jesus walked on water and did amazing tricks on a regular basis is entirey different. That needs a solid foundation of proof for any reasonable person to believe it.
piip4 2 years ago
They have found numerous writing form people back then describing what he did.
liveingforchrist 2 years ago
Who said that other's didn't write about him I'm sure they did.
Moony2222 2 years ago
@Moony2222
I'm just saying, if it was well documented by countless people (miracles don't go unnoticed after all), then you wouldn't be relying on the bible for substance to your faith as there would be other sources of reference.
But yeah, it's about faith as you say. Let's say I tried to believe, converted to Shintoism. It worships nature and ancestors, sounds so noble. It's not the 'right' faith? It's about faith, yet people claim to know which is 'right' faith. That's what puts me off..
piip4 2 years ago
In John It says that there was someone else with God in the beginning, the word, the bible. The bible isn't this artifact in a musuem everyone comes to see. it's for everyone. I'm positive there are other records and references somewhere, but you also must know how do we know some of them even knew how to write?? and the bible is God's word it is about him and that IS the most important reference. Try going to a church if you try i think you might find out you are in for more than you think.
Moony2222 2 years ago
Try to Pray, it doesn't have to fancy it doesn't have to be emotional, but just try to talk to God ask him to do something in your life anything ( reasonable) and count on him to do it. If you don't fully believe that God WILL do it, it Definately won't come true. In a story 2 men ask God for rain in their fields, but only one went to go prepare his field for rain. Which one do you think got the rain, The one who Prepared
Moony2222 2 years ago
No there isn't proof, but thats not what its about. It's about you and God together. It's about believing in a higher power. And the bible is not just a book, it's a reaference and connection with God. I bet you didn't know that doctors learned to put blood into people instead of just taking out the"bad blood" from the bible. I think you should try to believe. Try to. It makes life and everything better if you have a friend, God, always there to be with you. NO MATTER WHAT. God won't fail you.
Moony2222 2 years ago
I loved this skit!! it's a great reminder!!! I also loved the boy at the end that was apart of everything and had passionate prayers!! :-)
datruefashiondiva 2 years ago
Heaven is truly beautiful and there is nothing like it but 4 a person 2 enter it they have 2 practice the right way through it. Jesus is not god nor the son.How can a son eat,drink,pray 2 another god and even die.Jesus (SAW)is a prophet.May Allah guide u 2 the right path...i really dun want ur prayers 2 go 2 wast. A religion is there 2 guide us not 4 us 2 believe in even though it's not truth. Do u really know who's jesus,who told u he's God or the son coz i know he never said Im god worship me
memi168 2 years ago
@ memi168
u 2 r a 78 non even most is 4em. 4 244 4 22242 4 u lol ppl.
Please spend a few more seconds on your posts, it hurts my head to decipher your special (and lazy) writing technique.
piip4 2 years ago
Great skit and well done! To the lady that was speakaing at the beginning - what church are you from & by any chance were you at Nationals? (Orlando '09)
kkraut89 2 years ago
oh dude man i had to do this in worship i'm not saying i didnt like its just the dumbass who made us do it i think her name started with a J i think
SharadPainIsOnYT 2 years ago
God doesn't cause anyone to die. That is Satan's work, he kills, steals and distroys. That is what he does. God is life not death. God doesn't want anyone to die, he so much wanted this that he sent his Son (Jesus) to take our place, now that is true love! If you were the ONLY person left in this world he would have sent His Son to die in your place.
monel777 2 years ago
You gave an excellent response to the original debate. Thank you. The unicorn answer was fantastic. However, no such remains of this extinct animal matching the description of a "reem" have been found (not to say that they never will). There precedence in the bible of mythical animals such as flying horse (pegasus), dragons, and unicorns. A lot of Christians are returning to the Greek bible in order to re-examine the original translations of their god's word. Cont...
canaanav 2 years ago
Cont... I caution that questioning the translations of the bible is a slippery slope. If you concede that the bible translations of the word 'unicorn' are incorrect, you could also accept that the translation of the word 'virgin' could have been incorrect. Giving credential to the possibility mistranslation of the bible has some very dire consequences. For example, the Hebrew word 'ha-almah' (young woman) does not equate to the Greek word 'parthenos' (virgin). That is a can of worms indeed.
canaanav 2 years ago
@canaanav
Yes, you are correct. Another mis translation is When David states that 'Lions are at his feet', talking about enemies that wish to take away his royalty. That is mis translated as 'Peircing through my feet', which Christians refer to as proof of of Jesus' crucifixation.. There are many of these found in the Christian bible and children are taught these mistakes as truth, then pass them down.
gymnst37 1 year ago
@gymnst37 Cheers. Zealots rarely hear anything outside of their captive audiences. Faith is fought with reason. Nothing else works.
canaanav 1 year ago
@canaanav
Yes I believe you are right. Although someones faith is their own version of reality. If we truley wish to have faith, then we must accept what is necessary for that faith to become real. (You sound like you might be from the U.K.)
gymnst37 1 year ago
@gymnst37 From Maine. I've lived in 10 states in 14 years, 5 of which are in the Bible Belt. I'm actually in SC right now. I've met every sort of zealot in my travels. I love to vent on youtube.
canaanav 1 year ago
@canaanav
Yeah , I'm in the Bible belt myself now. Ever hear of Lynchburg Virginia? Jerry Fallwell??? Try dealing with them. Love Maine, lived in Massachestts my self for a while.
gymnst37 1 year ago
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@canaanav
Yes, you are correct. Another mis translation is When David states that 'Lions are at his feet', talking about enemies that wish to take away his royalty. That is mis translated as 'Peircing through my feet', which Christians refer to as proof of of Jesus' crucifixation.. There are many of these found in the Christian bible and children are taught these mistakes as truth, then pass them down.
gymnst37 1 year ago
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Luv dis video!!!=)
iLuVtAcObElL2008 2 years ago
I'd like for anyone else here to take a stab at my original question. Why does your god not grant 'free will' to everyone? Infant mortality is probably the most salient example of your god not granting 'free will' to all of us. Theres been three rather disturbing reasons given already, but I am still curious if anyone can come up with anything better. Cheers.
canaanav 2 years ago
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MizoreShirayukiSan 2 years ago
The bible was not written in english, so you have to go back to the original hebrew/greek to understand it. 'Unicorns', if translated correctly, were a wild ox, now extinct.
monel777 2 years ago
The 'reem' (reeym) also refers to a large bull type animal (one that is now extinct - Giganatic Bos primigeniua or aurochs)...One which Caesar says, 'These uri are scarcely less than elephants in size, but in their nature, color and form are bulls. Great is their strength and great their speed; they spare neither man nor beast when once; they have caught sight of them". Sounds like a real animal - at one time to me, one I would not want to cross in the wild...
monel777 2 years ago
Thanks monel777. You definitely gave me some interesting reading.
canaanav 2 years ago
Just a note. The etymology of the word 'unicorn' specifically applies to an animal species which has one horn. Right off the bat, Giganatic Bos primigeniua does not categorically fit that description. Honestly, I'd love to see a scientific discovery of such an animal. I have a friend that's a biologist and I'll spark up a conversation on this. It's very interesting.
canaanav 2 years ago
He does grant free will to everyone. Satan just takes that free will away. Infant morality isn't caused by our loving Father in Heaven. It is caused also by the devil. Different things like genetics, some of them by drugs and alcohol, some just come out of the womb the wrong way. It isn't caused by God. Why would you blame it on Him?
XmathisXtenanX 2 years ago
Dogma, dogma, dogma. You need to read the bible and stop inserting things you hear from other zealots into the word of your god just because they sound nice. Almost all infant mortalities are caused by dehydration right out of the womb. You think that Satan is causing that!? LOL. Show me in the bible. If you can't, then you just bared false witness on an angel and you'll surely burn for that if you do not repent. Id even go as far to say what you just did is blasphemy.
canaanav 2 years ago
you sure do say that word a lot dont you? I really dont care about what you think. I happen to read the bible everyday. And yes Satan is causing that so that people like you can blame it on God and then burn in Hell with him. And Satan is no longer an angel he is the worse devil of them all. And I dont need proof that he did it. I just know he did because I know God didn't. I have Faith in God and my faith is telling me it is the work of the devil that is killing these children.
XmathisXtenanX 2 years ago
Maybe you're right, god created Satan and isn't able to control him or maybe just doesn't want to control him. You should think about getting a church of your own or maybe preach on the streets. Yup, Satan is killing babies and you do not need the bible to say that. You're good. You certainly aren't baring false witness.
canaanav 2 years ago
@canaanav
I would like to take a stab at this. I would like to establish rules: lets discus this like adults unlike some of your previous conversations, and to my best ability I will only use other works and facts not found in the bible (unless quoting to provide background) so with respect to that I would also ask that you don't use unproven theories or facts. Cont....
Jazad1 1 year ago
@canaanav
Cont...Would you know what night is without day or what is black without white? In comparison could people know how blessed they are (for arguments sake by GOD) without experiencing or hearing about the other options that may have presented themselves. To quote you “I am one of the happiest people I know. I love life…” in response to MizoreShirayuiSan. Cont....
Jazad1 1 year ago
@canaanav
Cont....
This being said knowing that your life is better off than others has alerted you to the fact that others have suffered or at least not had as good of a life as you. I would like to thank you for your service to this country. Please respond to this if possible I am interested to see your response.
Jazad1 1 year ago
@Jazad1 This is an old post of mine. Thanks for your interest in debate. What theological position do you propose?
canaanav 1 year ago
@canaanav
As a follower of Christ teachings I do not claim to know all the answer to all things; to be honest much of the world; however you seem to be going on a Christian bashing rampage and personally that rubs me the wrong way. You continuously propose the idea that if like the Christian bible teaches good then why does he allow for bad things to happen. cont...
Jazad1 1 year ago
@canaanav
While I don’t know why infants die prematurely, tsunamis (I hope this is the correct spelling) kill thousands of people, still I don’t and never will claim to but I present the simple explanation could you know what good is without evil, do you believe that if never experiencing light could you comprehend the idea of darkness.
Jazad1 1 year ago
@canaanav
To simply put it I purpose the idea that bad things happen to good or possibly even innocent people so that others across the world may come to know the works of Christ. Thus proposing the same dilemma that is seen college level ethics classes across the world today. If a one solider were to fight for his country and die would it be better than no standing army be available and countless citizens die.
Jazad1 1 year ago
@Jazad1 Those girls proposed the same idea in a less articulate way. They contended that the reason for miscarriages was so that the people living could show mercy and sympathy. Say this out loud in public and see how it sounds. Would you break your kid’s fingers so that they could appreciate the fact that they can still walk? What you are saying is that your god permits suffering so that we all can realize that he loves us. How could mercy exist without suffering? This is a sick posiition
canaanav 1 year ago
This was such a good skit. My drama group did it at church about a month ago, and it was so hard for us not to laugh the whole time.
Good Job!
AlexxaLynn 2 years ago
oh my gosh i loved it it was brillant
countrygal5674 2 years ago
Some friends of mine and me done this at ayouth service and it was hilarious!!!! Little did we know that an Ashley and a heather was gonna be there!!!! Hahaha they lost it when they watched it...
20TS08 2 years ago
Misguided youths.
canaanav 2 years ago
Obnoxious Truth Killer
MizoreShirayukiSan 2 years ago
Sill living with your parents? Ever though of military service? It'll help when the teet is pulled out of your mouth.
canaanav 2 years ago
Ever heard of a word called "lame"? cause that's what you are very much right now! Also I am seventeen so if i were living at home it would be normal but i am not living at home. I am living with my mentally disabled sister, supporting her, so i believe you are the one who needs to get out of your mommy and daddy's basement and witness the real truthful world!
MizoreShirayukiSan 2 years ago
I'm glad you are taking care of your sister. She perhaps is proof that your god does not grant free will to everyone. What choices has your sister made? Maybe she chose to be disabled. Your god only knows. What is for sure though, jesus never cured anyone who was mentally disabled. Your go has a sick, sick sense of humor.
canaanav 2 years ago
No she is just proof that God made everyone different but for a good reason. It really doesn't matter how smart you are in this world only how good and how much you love Him. Then you will go to a perfect world with your real Father who loves you and is not sick ever. I can't change how you see things but you can't change my views either. Maybe you should just grow up and stop trying to discourage other people's beliefs.
MizoreShirayukiSan 2 years ago
You are a sweet girl. I can tell. However, I too have taken care of people with special needs and it happens to be my wifes profession. I know plenty of children who are born without a chance, without choice, and suffering. Where is their free will and where is their ability to love? To think that your god had something to do with it is why I hate your god and your ideology. You are a sweet heart because of you, not because of your god. You are more moral than your religion.
canaanav 2 years ago
I know you have a good heart too and I thank you for your compliments but I still believe what I do and I believe Christianity is not a religion but a relationship. I still believe everyone has freewill somewhere within them. I can't explain why I believe this but I just do. I just want people to except that others will believe differently than them and they have no right to criticize them for it.
MizoreShirayukiSan 2 years ago
Well, you have a great out look. I have reservations against anyone who 'can explain it'. Christians are the ones who, typically, are the judges; especially with non-believers. You have no idea how often I'm told that I'm going to hell for not believing. So my guard is up. Reason is the end of faith. It is what I strive for.
canaanav 2 years ago
Really, no offense, but I am done talking to you. I am not going to say you are going to Hell. But the end of Faith will never come. Only the end of this world. Faith will always go on even after death. Faith, Hope, and Love are the greatest gifts you can have right now. So I am sorry if you will be disappointed in the end when Faith never dies. I know deep inside that everyone has Faith, they just have to make that one step to believe.
MizoreShirayukiSan 2 years ago
Reason is the end of faith. Faith has no purpose outside religious dogma. Taker easy.
canaanav 2 years ago
Maybe to you because you can't understand it. I already told you before Faith has a reason. It is reason. You just need to open your eyes man, else you will never be truly happy. You may think and feel happy. But in the end, you will never be happy.
MizoreShirayukiSan 2 years ago
Webster would disagree. Faith is not reason. Well known opposites of reason are emotion, tradition, and faith. They are opposite by definition. One uses reason to believe that the sun will rise tomorrow. One needs faith to believe that there will a rapture and the world will end in their life time. Big big difference.
I am one of the happiest people I know. I love life thank you. I've been 'blessed' without gods.
canaanav 2 years ago
We are done with this argument! I can see now that all you care about is yourself and thinking your right. I change my mind about you being a good person. You are rude and will never just leave someone alone when they make their opinion. Science doesn't explain everything and neither does a prat. So just leave me alone now. I am tired of your know-it-all attitude. Thank you and goodbye!!!
MizoreShirayukiSan 2 years ago
I never said science explains it all. I never said the word "science". Up is opposite of down and faith is opposite of reason. That's not my opinion. You opened the can of worms sweet heart. I still think you're nice. Cheers,
canaanav 2 years ago
Listen can we stop please? I really don't enjoy arguing, thank you for still thinking i'm nice but I just think we should both believe what we want and not criticize other people. I am sorry if that was what I was doing. Let's just be friends and let it go, ok?
MizoreShirayukiSan 2 years ago
You're such a drama queen.
canaanav 2 years ago
never mind I dont want to be your friend after u posted that. just leave me alone and go live your so called perfect life. you'll quickly change your mind in the end. goodbye!
MizoreShirayukiSan 2 years ago
Booooo. How many last words do you want to get. I'm not trying to end the conversation. You are, right?
canaanav 2 years ago
your real mature 4 someone who's married and who's wife works with disabled people. Now I said goodbye so goodbye! @( XP
MizoreShirayukiSan 2 years ago
Booo. Satan, Beelzebub, Lucifer, Dragons, and talking snakes.
canaanav 2 years ago
HAHAHA ROFL LOL you are so hilarious and what is with BOOOO? WHat are u 5? HAHAHA OMG You are something aren't u? I can't believe u are even an adult. I'm not yet and I don't care what u think of me. Oh man u need a real life. Cus in my opinion u don't have one. Oh man, BOOOO... That cracks me up!
MizoreShirayukiSan 2 years ago
Yes, I do enjoy what I do. I like to chat with irrational zealots. Twice I've even had some youtube zealots try to perform an exercism on me. It was fantastic. I think your nice for a little kid. It's kind of cool to just say what ever you want, huh? I find youtube exilerating. Thanks for being the way you are. Cheers.
canaanav 2 years ago
Umm... Really? I am not a zealot I am a christian which is a BIIIIG difference. And calling me a little kid just proves your immaturity since I am 17 which means I am adolescence and not a child. And I am not the only one saying whatever I want and I really am not saying everything. I would like to throw a few cuss words at you but it is wrong and I didn't. Also u r an awful AWFUL liar! Cheers! Xp
MizoreShirayukiSan 2 years ago
You're not a little kid physically, just mentally. I joined the service when I was 16 and turned 17 in boot camp. I was a 6 year veteran by the time I was 23. Like I said way early on, pull the teat out of your mouth. I'd hope that gives you perspective, but it may be fruitless for me to try.
I'm letting you off easy, sweetie. We could debate this, but you're unarmed and it wouldn't be honorable for me to do so. I still like ya. Wink.
canaanav 2 years ago
Enough with the sweetie think jerk! I don't care what u did when u were 17. Like I said I am living alone with my mentally disabled sister and working a part time job while trying to get all my schoolwork in to go to College to be a writer. So don't give me that crap about the teat you idiot. I am sick and tired of your oh I am so grown up talk and oh I know God is not real talk. Just grow up for real and I mean for REAL you creeper! Just leave me alone u baby!
MizoreShirayukiSan 2 years ago
You like this stuff. You'd just stop typing to me if you didn't. Truth be told, I am satan.
I think you'll be a great writer. I'm eating up your writings here. Please, tell me more about me.
canaanav 2 years ago
You are stupid and I think u r just some idiot guy who satan is talking through but u r not satan cus satan would be worse than your sissy words. Now is the end of my conversation. You WONT be hearing from me again. Goodbye, Sayonara Baka-San and Damatte Yo with ur lies.
MizoreShirayukiSan 2 years ago
I don't know.... I think you'll miss me. I'll miss you. It feels too good to hate someone. I know you love to hate me and you might need some more of this. I am here for you when you need to let some more go. Bakakakaka Sheeewooooaaa.
canaanav 2 years ago
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cchorsdeer 2 years ago
Finally some action. They say patience is the most important thing when fishing.
If you are so confident, please youtube "anencephalic baby." How would you gauge their 'free will' on a scale from 1-10? Tell me about your gods plan for these kids.
canaanav 2 years ago
i would gauge their free will at a ten, some of us just can't see that yet. MY God is also YOUR God, you apparently just can't see that yet, and i hope you will see that soon. God's plan for "these kids" is to show the world about him in the things they do or say. like i said God teaches the strong through the weak. thank you, peace;)
cchorsdeer 2 years ago
So your god makes dead, deformed babies for my long term benefit. I think I am getting it now. 49.4 out of a 1000 babies born in the world die so that I can understand my own free will. This is a perfect plan indeed.
How do I get to know the mind of your god like you do?
canaanav 2 years ago
Oh no, I'm loosing it again. Do you think that your god could step it up a notch with his dead, deformed baby factory and maybe kill, say, 100 out of 1000 babies? I'm not quite getting enough understanding of my free will with just a 49.4 world infant mortality rate.
I'll pray for that. After all, the free will of all of us that didn't die immediately after birth is at stake. Lets pray for a slightly higher infant mortality rate.
canaanav 2 years ago
you just don't get it do you? even if god did "step it up a notch" as you put it. he would do that to try to teach ppl. they will one day show the world his love for them and show them that it doesn't matter what you look like, how long you live, how painful it is or how hard it is to live your live for jesus christ. and i will pray, for you to see God's love for you and for him to help you see that he DOES care. i'm also going to pray for a MUCH higher christain rate. thank you, peace;)
cchorsdeer 2 years ago
Yes yes, lets pray for a higher christian rate. The fact that less than 1 in 5 people on the planet are christian is horrible. Jesus died for the whole planet, not measly 1/5 of it. We need more christians and dead, deformed babies for people to get it. Remember the tsunami in 2004? Well, it killed off about 200,000 non-christians in the south pacific islands and Indonesia in a single day. Lets pray for some more of that. God bless. Amen.
canaanav 2 years ago
i'm so sorry you can't see God's love the way i do, and can't or rather don't want to see why he made ppl like them to teach us about his love even if they don't preach it themselves. and yes maybe we do need more christains and "deformed babies" for ppl to get it. what ever God does he does to teach us to love one another no matter what. maybe the tsunami was a way of showing how he could change ppl in a single day, even has horrific the deaths of ppl were. i hope you see how much he loves you.
cchorsdeer 2 years ago
No one will see your god's love like you do. You are either typing satire or you are completely crazy. Please, please, go to church. The koo-koo is out of the clock. You and your church leader need to go over all this. I find the typical zealot a bit crazy, but you have crossed a line. You need some help. Please go to your church and go over this conversation there. I have to be serious for once. No more on saying your god makes dead babies because he loves us. Stop.
canaanav 2 years ago
Ummm... God doesn't make dead babies, these babies die or get deformed because of the awful way their mother's treat their bodies while being pregnant with them. It isn't God's fault. Why must everyone blame God for everything they hate???
lejendmythril 2 years ago
Infant mortality happens naturally more often than not. The most common cause is dehydration and diarrhea. Birth mortality happens in all the animals, and humans are no exception. If not for science, human infant mortality rates would be a lot higher. That is exhibited in countries such as Angola, which is predominately christian nation. There 180 babies out of 1000 are born dead. You should do some research before you post here. Pretty much everything you said is wrong. Cheers.
canaanav 2 years ago
Dude I don't care about your dumb research. All you care about are the supposed facts of this world. Heck this world wouldn't be here if not for God. All I'm trying to say is you need to look at the facts from our perspective before shooting them down and acting like a retard. Seriously dude I'm not saying that is the only way babies die. I'm just trying to tell u that God doesn't kill babies u ppl just blame all ur hate on him. dude just chill and stop being a retard...
lejendmythril 2 years ago
1.i go to church
2.you spelled cuckoo wrong
3.me and my church leader don't hav anything to go over or talk about
4.i am sooo not a zealot
5.i don't need help, you do
6.god doesn't make babies that way careless ppl do, and yes he does love us even the dying babies
7.YOU stop being a jerk and please see that God loves you very much and he does not create your problems. he fixes them, like killing the babies so they don't live in pain all their lives. thank you, peace;)
cchorsdeer 2 years ago
Please look up the word zealot. Stop with the 'god kills babies to show his love for us' shit. It's sick, kid.
canaanav 2 years ago
i did look up the word zealot. i didn't say God "kills" babies, i said sometimes he lets them die peacefully so they won't hav to suffer through life. that is not how he shows his love to us, only to the babies and other ppl in way to much pain. please don't cuss i don't like it. God bless you, he loves you. thank you, peace;)
cchorsdeer 2 years ago
cchorsdeer, you need a morality check. Coming from me, that is condemning. Life is not 'suffering' and god is not doing infants a favor by offing them. Ive been given one life by my parents and I love it and have yet to suffer. Please stop spewing this sick baby killing agenda. This crap is coming out of you mouth and even your god has gotta be shaking his head. Go to church and learn the dogma the safe way instead of guessing.
canaanav 2 years ago
i'm sorry. maybe im wrong but i won't stop searching for the truth. but i truly believe God is the only God and that he loves this world and everything in it. everything happens for a reason. im sorry about what i said and maybe someday we both can learn the whole truth and live how God wants us to live. im not guessing. God loves you. peace.
cchorsdeer 2 years ago
Well played. You really are a sweet heart and you have the best of intentions. I like to joke around and question people's reality. In the long run, it helps you decide what you really believe. Thanks.
canaanav 2 years ago
cchorsdeer,
I can't do this with you. You hit a wall, hard.
"you just don't get it do you? even if god did "step it up a notch" [a.k.a kill more babies] as you put it. he would do that to try to teach ppl."
Honey, you need to print this all out and take it to your church. Go over it with you church leader line for line. You're bringing dogma to the table that even I've never seen before. If you want to buy into religion, you'll need to go to church and hone your position better.
canaanav 2 years ago
Wow person u just don't give up do u? What's ur deal anyway? U to afraid that you'll be humiliated when u find out all this is true? Seriously dude open ur eyes and see the truth! Wow...
lejendmythril 2 years ago
you still don't get it, geez, how am i to get through to you? i said IF he did, he would show ppl through the "deformed" babies meaning what they do or say, cuz whether you like it or not he speaks through them and has actually changed ppl through them. and you hav know right to tell me what to do or what to say to my church leader, since you don't even beleive in god's love in the first place. im sorry that you can't trust in God. thank you, peace;)
cchorsdeer 2 years ago
If there are any police or any authorities reading this, please understand that I do not think that dead, deformed babies or the 2004 tsunami are a good thing. I was trying to use satire to make a point. This poor child speaks on her own accord. I tried to help her realize that dead babies and natural disasters are a bad thing. If she decides to act out on these beliefs, please know that I tried to steer her towards help.
canaanav 2 years ago
This man speaks of his own accord as well. If he decides to act out and kill Christians for their beliefs then I will inform u that MizoreShirayukiSan and cchorsedeer have tried their best to help him. I apologize for the arguments you have seen as well. Thank u! XD P.S. I seriously doubt poor cchorsedeer will act out on her beliefs in a bad way. She will only continue to encourage ppl to believe in our wonderful God! This man on the other hand I'd watch out for...
lejendmythril 2 years ago
LOL. Please do an exorcism. I've had only two.
canaanav 2 years ago
HAHA dude u seriously need to chill only someone who is possessed needs and exorcism and u are not close to being that good at evil. U r still pretty dumb...
lejendmythril 2 years ago
lejendmythril, did you read what these two said about infant mortality rates? I know I'm sick and I like it. I have a great life without gods and unicorns, so there's no helping me. These kids basically told me that god takes the 'free will' from deformed dead babies so that I have an appreciation for my 'free will'. As evil as I am, I would rather die myself than permit a child to suffer by the hand of your god. I would challenge anyone who would think otherwise.
canaanav 2 years ago
I did read it and it was only cchorsdeer who posted this stuff. Like I have been saying, God did kill these babies or make them that way. I just want you to understand that our God is not merciless. He is a loving and caring God. He just wants to take the pain away if only we would believe in Him. And also he has nothing to do with unicorns. That is fantasy this is reality, there is a wide difference in the two, why don't u look up fantasy and reality and see the difference for yourself...
lejendmythril 2 years ago
You said it. There are exactly 11 unicorns in the bible. I too would consider unicorns fantacy. Thanks for finally seeing things my way.
canaanav 2 years ago
U still don't get it canaanav. The unicorns in the bible r reality. The ones that are in stories and movies now are fiction. The unicorns in the bible and God r reality. why can't u see the truth in front of your big nose???
lejendmythril 2 years ago
Hahahahahaaha. Of coarse child. Let me guess, the dragons in the bible are real too, and the ones in all the other books are fiction. I think I'm getting it now. This is called special pleading by the way. You've mastered it.
canaanav 2 years ago