that's bullshit. battery swap will play a role with Project Better Place to begin with but the problem with battery swap is they have to agree on standards, every swap station has to have all types and in plenty supply to service a surge of cars and you can't own your battery, you are stuck with a subscription fee. so no, battery swap will not be the solution. 6 minute recharge will however.
I notice that the vehicle's battery exchange compactment is underneath. Just 2 problems (I think): First, suppose the vehicle is partially submerged in a pool of water and water enters this compartment (which might also be damaged by hard undulating ground surfaces). Second; very many batteries will need to be reserved for these types of vevhicles (i.e. battery to vehicle ratio is likely to be very high especially for very long distance travel). Environmental impact is uncertain.
Access to the battery is easiest from underneath. Since an electric-only vehicle has far fewer components (battery, motor) mounting these low on a vehicle lowers the center of gravity & improves the handling. 2 things: 1. While the battery is mounted low, the electrical contacts can be high AND sealed. Electric vehicles do not take in air, so they COULD be submerged - unilke an internal combustion engine.
Batteries will be reused with 3 phase electricity charging, faster/better than oil.
Ok thanx; but how about the danger of high impact by uneven ground surfaces? Also, electric vehicles will have significantly less electrical luxury gadgets than I.C.E. gasolene engines (aside from the much shorter ranges before ''refuelling''). It is good for the environment, but a lot of work still needs to be done in order to favorably match its Internal Combustion Engine (I.C.E.) counterpart.
My 4WD truck has a steel plate guard for the oil pan, but if you mean ground clearance, they will be the same in an I.C.E. or an Elec. vehicle. ICE Heads are just below the hood and heavy. Batteries can be any shape - why not mount them low?
There ARE E.V. challenges to overcome. A.C. is a power hog, that's just the summer challenge... The best solutions are better batteries, efficient components (LED's, etc.).
Drive them or not, many E.V.'s on the road will lower the cost of gasoline.
Make no mistake: Exxon made 42 Billion dollars PROFIT (not mere Revenue) in 3 months during the latest, highest gasoline price period. That kind of profit means Big oil has profit to protect, and money to spend doing it.
From a reliable source: Chevron successfully lobbied to shut down a Japanese Panasonic electric vehicle battery factory. It makes me re-think capitalism.
If we demand it, the better technology will win: Search here on YT: "Electric Car Wheel" and "In-Wheel Motor".
OK. but to me I dont think any form of E.V. 'engines' will ever beat the I.C.E. the best which I think is closer to I.C.E. (internal combustion engine) is the hydrogen fuel cell (second to hydrogen-only fuel I.C.E.). However we are aware that anticompetitive measures by the large oil companies may usurp viable non-gasolene I.C. or E.V. vehicles as money talks (which is evil and stupid)!
Hydrogen Fuel Cells provide power, they still need something to drive the wheels - so they use Electric Motors (fuel is for engines, electricity is for motors).
Plenty here on YouTube to search for, I recommend "White Zombie drag race".
Also, I uploaded a vid on quick battery replacement for e-vehicles.
The rest is up to you, it's a "horse to water" thing. Bye.
Actually, there is just 1thing to remind you of b4 I move along: THE MONEY, and who is making it. Batteries and electricity are no mystery. We have purchased them for a long time, and we know each has multiple solutions and sources. Oil comes from one place. Hydrogen is actually easy enough to extract, but since it will be put into cars under high pressure, the homeowner will not have the equipment.
So, since electric cars with batteries cut out the profit 4 oil or hydrogen companies?...
Actually apart from I.C.E., battery would have been the best (taking into account ambient temperayture conditions (etc)) but the problem is its useable range (far shorter than even a very thirsty gas guzzler) if the electronic comforting gadgets of modern cars are not to be compromised. For H2, the car owner may not have the equipment but H2 fuel stations will probably be available fairly ubiquitously (like modern gasolene ones). Battery exchanges may be more cumbersome than gas tank filling.
Can't seem to find the video I uploaded on the battery swap taking less than a minute? Hint: Click on my username.
If H2 stations can be ubiquitous, so can battery swap stations. Why the preference for H2 when electricity already goes more places than Oil and can be generated on site?
Golly, gee, Payola - just a guy worried about our energy future, eh regular Joe?
This will not be a reality, at least not for some decades to come. The reason is that as EVs become prevalent, competition begins. The biggest competitive prize is range, and each mfg. will try to outdo the other and batts. will drive this. Standardizing these will take away any autonomy and competitive advantage aspirations of any given company.
This is a good idea in a Utopian world of homogeneous vehicles, but not a reality in our society.
Not so! when competition begins for electric vehicles (ev), this will drive down prices and chrun out much better products (as cut throat 'rat-race' try to outdo each other). Autonomy and heavy competitive technological advantages and aspirations will occur and the 'winning company' may set the pace for standardization of other companies to follow (e.g. as seen between betamax/vhs videos and more recently; Blueray Vs. HD-DVD). I think EVs will be the next in-thing.
It is a great concept, but for that to work, all EV manufacturers would have to standardize their batteries compartment. We all know that it would be mission impossible, as most companies think their system is the best and let the other meet their system. I think of VHS VS Beta,then CD, DVD single layer, dual layer, blue ray. How about Quick time, Window media player, Real player, VLC are all in the race to have their software play videos! Imagine the different type of batteries available!
you have to take into consideration that batteries only have a useful life of 4-7 years, and what if someone drops off old batteries that dont hold a charge? Then the next person gets a useless battery.
if everybody had an electric car that means electric companies would need more and more energy witch would lead o a crissis and then later well use nuclear energy or something so its good but not too good everything has its flaws
i think the future looks exciting for electric cars especially the introduction of the new Honda in 2009 which will be powered by Hydrogen Cells.Keep up the good work everybody, inventers manufactures and the like
electric car mfgrs should form a consortium or working group to standardize on pack design
the station depicted would be very expensive. the system needs to have a simple low-tech swapper to be affordable to independent gas stations or people who just want to set up their own 'swap station'. A couple of ramps and a manually operated hydraulic lift could be built for under $1000.
This is ridiculous... and a guy can't do that manually simply by carrying the barry out of a Batteries Plus, snap the old one out, snap the new one in? Why this elaborate contraption... Just another way to keep EVs complicated... Well meaning perhaps, but insane, because battery standardization on the level this "station" would viable will never happen... beside rapid chargers can do the trick in less than ten minutes... this is way overkill!
"studies indicate"?
that's bullshit. battery swap will play a role with Project Better Place to begin with but the problem with battery swap is they have to agree on standards, every swap station has to have all types and in plenty supply to service a surge of cars and you can't own your battery, you are stuck with a subscription fee. so no, battery swap will not be the solution. 6 minute recharge will however.
DanFrederiksen 7 months ago
I notice that the vehicle's battery exchange compactment is underneath. Just 2 problems (I think): First, suppose the vehicle is partially submerged in a pool of water and water enters this compartment (which might also be damaged by hard undulating ground surfaces). Second; very many batteries will need to be reserved for these types of vevhicles (i.e. battery to vehicle ratio is likely to be very high especially for very long distance travel). Environmental impact is uncertain.
7olusegun 2 years ago
Access to the battery is easiest from underneath. Since an electric-only vehicle has far fewer components (battery, motor) mounting these low on a vehicle lowers the center of gravity & improves the handling. 2 things: 1. While the battery is mounted low, the electrical contacts can be high AND sealed. Electric vehicles do not take in air, so they COULD be submerged - unilke an internal combustion engine.
Batteries will be reused with 3 phase electricity charging, faster/better than oil.
CI9TK 2 years ago
Ok thanx; but how about the danger of high impact by uneven ground surfaces? Also, electric vehicles will have significantly less electrical luxury gadgets than I.C.E. gasolene engines (aside from the much shorter ranges before ''refuelling''). It is good for the environment, but a lot of work still needs to be done in order to favorably match its Internal Combustion Engine (I.C.E.) counterpart.
7olusegun 2 years ago
My 4WD truck has a steel plate guard for the oil pan, but if you mean ground clearance, they will be the same in an I.C.E. or an Elec. vehicle. ICE Heads are just below the hood and heavy. Batteries can be any shape - why not mount them low?
There ARE E.V. challenges to overcome. A.C. is a power hog, that's just the summer challenge... The best solutions are better batteries, efficient components (LED's, etc.).
Drive them or not, many E.V.'s on the road will lower the cost of gasoline.
CI9TK 2 years ago
Make no mistake: Exxon made 42 Billion dollars PROFIT (not mere Revenue) in 3 months during the latest, highest gasoline price period. That kind of profit means Big oil has profit to protect, and money to spend doing it.
From a reliable source: Chevron successfully lobbied to shut down a Japanese Panasonic electric vehicle battery factory. It makes me re-think capitalism.
If we demand it, the better technology will win: Search here on YT: "Electric Car Wheel" and "In-Wheel Motor".
CI9TK 2 years ago
OK. but to me I dont think any form of E.V. 'engines' will ever beat the I.C.E. the best which I think is closer to I.C.E. (internal combustion engine) is the hydrogen fuel cell (second to hydrogen-only fuel I.C.E.). However we are aware that anticompetitive measures by the large oil companies may usurp viable non-gasolene I.C. or E.V. vehicles as money talks (which is evil and stupid)!
7olusegun 2 years ago
Hydrogen Fuel Cells provide power, they still need something to drive the wheels - so they use Electric Motors (fuel is for engines, electricity is for motors).
Plenty here on YouTube to search for, I recommend "White Zombie drag race".
Also, I uploaded a vid on quick battery replacement for e-vehicles.
The rest is up to you, it's a "horse to water" thing. Bye.
CI9TK 2 years ago
Actually, there is just 1thing to remind you of b4 I move along: THE MONEY, and who is making it. Batteries and electricity are no mystery. We have purchased them for a long time, and we know each has multiple solutions and sources. Oil comes from one place. Hydrogen is actually easy enough to extract, but since it will be put into cars under high pressure, the homeowner will not have the equipment.
So, since electric cars with batteries cut out the profit 4 oil or hydrogen companies?...
CI9TK 2 years ago
Actually apart from I.C.E., battery would have been the best (taking into account ambient temperayture conditions (etc)) but the problem is its useable range (far shorter than even a very thirsty gas guzzler) if the electronic comforting gadgets of modern cars are not to be compromised. For H2, the car owner may not have the equipment but H2 fuel stations will probably be available fairly ubiquitously (like modern gasolene ones). Battery exchanges may be more cumbersome than gas tank filling.
7olusegun 2 years ago
Can't seem to find the video I uploaded on the battery swap taking less than a minute? Hint: Click on my username.
If H2 stations can be ubiquitous, so can battery swap stations. Why the preference for H2 when electricity already goes more places than Oil and can be generated on site?
Golly, gee, Payola - just a guy worried about our energy future, eh regular Joe?
CI9TK 2 years ago
Comment removed
7olusegun 2 years ago
This will not be a reality, at least not for some decades to come. The reason is that as EVs become prevalent, competition begins. The biggest competitive prize is range, and each mfg. will try to outdo the other and batts. will drive this. Standardizing these will take away any autonomy and competitive advantage aspirations of any given company.
This is a good idea in a Utopian world of homogeneous vehicles, but not a reality in our society.
mykallb 3 years ago
Not so! when competition begins for electric vehicles (ev), this will drive down prices and chrun out much better products (as cut throat 'rat-race' try to outdo each other). Autonomy and heavy competitive technological advantages and aspirations will occur and the 'winning company' may set the pace for standardization of other companies to follow (e.g. as seen between betamax/vhs videos and more recently; Blueray Vs. HD-DVD). I think EVs will be the next in-thing.
7olusegun 2 years ago
VLC Player is the best
drewhastheinternet 4 years ago
how bout the electric engine charges the batterys instead
skanN86 4 years ago
It is a great concept, but for that to work, all EV manufacturers would have to standardize their batteries compartment. We all know that it would be mission impossible, as most companies think their system is the best and let the other meet their system. I think of VHS VS Beta,then CD, DVD single layer, dual layer, blue ray. How about Quick time, Window media player, Real player, VLC are all in the race to have their software play videos! Imagine the different type of batteries available!
vizmike321 4 years ago
you have to take into consideration that batteries only have a useful life of 4-7 years, and what if someone drops off old batteries that dont hold a charge? Then the next person gets a useless battery.
Brandonly23 4 years ago
So useless battery can be detected, removed from circulation and recycle parts. That belt thing can skip that battery.
arsipaani 4 years ago
yes, but who will absrob the cost of recycling and, or replacing these old batteries? and don't say taxpayers!!
Brandonly23 4 years ago
When you go to station you will pay to change/charge you battery. So do you thing that cost of one charge will be too much ?
arsipaani 3 years ago
if everybody had an electric car that means electric companies would need more and more energy witch would lead o a crissis and then later well use nuclear energy or something so its good but not too good everything has its flaws
pheonixUHoe 4 years ago
i think the future looks exciting for electric cars especially the introduction of the new Honda in 2009 which will be powered by Hydrogen Cells.Keep up the good work everybody, inventers manufactures and the like
cilit99 4 years ago
electric car mfgrs should form a consortium or working group to standardize on pack design
the station depicted would be very expensive. the system needs to have a simple low-tech swapper to be affordable to independent gas stations or people who just want to set up their own 'swap station'. A couple of ramps and a manually operated hydraulic lift could be built for under $1000.
cowbot2 4 years ago
I think it all makes sense to get away from oil. Too bad our leaders in the U.S. don't think so.
jfalbo 4 years ago
How about just putting a charging station at the shopping mall parking lot?
JohnDeBunkTest 4 years ago
Geniale!!!
impazzitoinvolo 4 years ago
This is ridiculous... and a guy can't do that manually simply by carrying the barry out of a Batteries Plus, snap the old one out, snap the new one in? Why this elaborate contraption... Just another way to keep EVs complicated... Well meaning perhaps, but insane, because battery standardization on the level this "station" would viable will never happen... beside rapid chargers can do the trick in less than ten minutes... this is way overkill!
LuMagazine 4 years ago
I Know, great concept, but you know wen the petrolium industry god, will let develop this kind of real need solution???? ......... NEVER
labandasubterranea 4 years ago
please let us know when you find the industry and political leaders who are committed to making this happen
nathan49nathan 4 years ago
Project Better Place in Israel and Renault
JV78500 3 years ago
this idea is really great.. but electric cars have ALOT of batteries in them. i hope one day a small battery like that one can power a car.
cyberjosh7 4 years ago
Dit gaat het helemaal worden!
Erretje 5 years ago
grrrreat concept...i hope it is avaliable SOON.
Forzadood 5 years ago