GREAT ARRANGEMENT ! - I'll spare you my credentials but suffice it to say that NOT EVERYBODY HAS TO LIKE ALL THINGS.....I think PHIL COLLINS is BRILLIANT and so is SANBORN ! Does this arrangement have the same excitement as the original? NO. B U T it has its' own excitement. WHY ? - - It's a different arrangement. This is what we musicians do sometimes......we enjoy challenging ourselves with new things, styles, instrumentation. Does it really matter that we all know each others' opinion ?
All fans of jazz go through an elitist stage. It's necessary to learn the music. There's so much there that everything seems empty by comparison.
If you're speaking ill of Sandborn you're still stuck in that phase. Nobody does what Sandborn does better. He's not dealing with complex harmonies and rhythms like Wayne Shorter, but who cares? We can just listen to Wayne Shorter.
Enjoy Sandborn for the outstanding musician he is. There's much to learn from him.
I'll be 50 years young in less than a year and I will never resort to listening to this.I was a big fan of Collins when he played in Brand X.This is sappy!!!!!
@mohomoho1 Sappy? As opposed to Phil Collins' riveting Disney soundtrack masterpieces? This isn't supposed to be the same "earthshaking" electronic drums drenched rendition of the original, if you wanna get technical about what exactly can be referred to as sappy. And despite my tongue in cheek comments on Collins original, I do love it, and this cover of the classic tune. Collins' original cut was never my favorite single of his (the rest of "Face Value" blows it away!). I like this 1 better.
David Sanborn is completely capable of playing whatever style of music he wishes. He is a University of Iowa graduate and performed in the jazz groups there during his undergraduate years. Perhaps it's time to quit rationalizing "Your" take on other people's music and just dig it. I may suggest reading Aaron Copland's book, "How To Listen To Music" and keep comments to the 3rd plane of listening. This will keep petty arguments off of nice posts like this. Enjoy the music folks. Nice job D!
The Collins Big Band Album, "Hot Night in Paris", doesn't have this track; shame. I think this is the best thing he ever did with his big band. I can only assume that it was a performing rights issue. My genuine thanks to LeoShepard for posting this rare gem.
A friend of mine had the track on *some* CD and gave it to me, so whether it was commercially released or not, it was definitely given the same kind of quality audio recording the rest of the concert got. It's out there if you look around.
Listen Pearlyilove you, when sanborn plays the way he does, it raises the level of the band with the remarkable harmony he uses, with the high C i beleive being played repeatedly. He " inspires the bad" and they are "playing" off his feed back. So please, know what your talking about before insulting a legend..
Actually, over time I've come to re-evaluate my opinion here. I found an mp3 of this performance, and when the visual is taken away and I just listen to the music, it sounds perfect. The last three minutes are especially amazing.
This is interesting, but I gotta say I like the video with Gerald Albright doing this arrangement much better. I was REALLY psyched to hear Sanborn doing it but it's like he's not even hearing the band behind him; he's totally missing the groove and never really fits into it...he's always somewhere outside of it, and not in an artful way.
Are you serious? Albright's tone is no where as affective as Sanborn's, this version is clearly better. As for him not fitting in, listen more carefully, clearly nails this...in a very artful way. Albright is a more RnB player and works better in Against All Odds where as this is perfect for Sanborn's sound.
This is just an ignorant statement, goldeneye00756. Gerald Albright and Sanborn are rather different schools of playing. And this is a typical Sanborn's kind of playing. Very tasteful and laid-back. That's the way the guy plays.
@goldeneye00756 You nailed it. Albright is much better player than Sanborn. Gerald can play straight ahead jazz as well as r&b. Sanborn does not play straight ahead nor has he ever
@ceetee21 You are such an idiot. You can't just say one is a better player than another, just because you don't like the way he plays straight ahead. That can be a good thing or a bad thing. Even IF Sanborn couldn't play as good straight ahead as Gerald, that would mean he was more IN his style. In other words, usually play much better in that style.
And you can't even compare the two. They are so much different... You, sir, are an idiot.
@magichristo You don't have to agree with me.That's okay! But may I say to you watch who you are calling an idiot it's just a discussion on David Sanborn's ability to play Jazz.
Be a man and use better choice of words. You don't know me and I'm sure if we were face to face you would be much more respectful.
@ceetee21 No. I'm sorry, but you clearly claimed that Gerald was a "much better player than Sanborn". In general. Only an idiot who knows not much about music would say something like that. So don't talk about something you don't know anything about.
@magichristo We can agree to disagree respectively.My knowledge of music is extensive particularly when comes to jazz. So I'm no idiot!!!..
My reference to David Sanborn was strictly about Jazz. Mr. Sanborn has never recorded a straight ahead cd. Do the research.His music is coll it's just not jazz.
@ceetee21 I disagree. ANOTHER HAND (1991) and his more recent HERE AND GONE are both straight-ahead jazz albums by David Sanborn. The JazzTimes article "David Sanborn: The Blues and the Abstract Truth" (2008) agrees with me on this.
@jalabi99 I have about 20 or 22 cd's of David Sanborn in my jazz collection of over 5,000 jazz cd's. Doing only 2 straight ahead jazz records in a span of over 36 years of recording your own music while not put in the circle of the the straight ahead players. The majority of his records are mostly nice pop and r&b instrumentals. Go back listen to them. Starting back in 1975.
GREAT ARRANGEMENT ! - I'll spare you my credentials but suffice it to say that NOT EVERYBODY HAS TO LIKE ALL THINGS.....I think PHIL COLLINS is BRILLIANT and so is SANBORN ! Does this arrangement have the same excitement as the original? NO. B U T it has its' own excitement. WHY ? - - It's a different arrangement. This is what we musicians do sometimes......we enjoy challenging ourselves with new things, styles, instrumentation. Does it really matter that we all know each others' opinion ?
PJMPercussion 4 months ago
Sanborn!
dustbiter445 6 months ago
lo maximo
cococho34 11 months ago
fantastic always brother david
krikorsax 1 year ago
All fans of jazz go through an elitist stage. It's necessary to learn the music. There's so much there that everything seems empty by comparison.
If you're speaking ill of Sandborn you're still stuck in that phase. Nobody does what Sandborn does better. He's not dealing with complex harmonies and rhythms like Wayne Shorter, but who cares? We can just listen to Wayne Shorter.
Enjoy Sandborn for the outstanding musician he is. There's much to learn from him.
TBlake34 1 year ago
@TBlake34 *Sanborn
MichaelPhung94 10 months ago
want the entire video!!!!!!!!!!!! where can I get it?
isildrum 1 year ago
I'll be 50 years young in less than a year and I will never resort to listening to this.I was a big fan of Collins when he played in Brand X.This is sappy!!!!!
mohomoho1 1 year ago
@mohomoho1 Sappy? As opposed to Phil Collins' riveting Disney soundtrack masterpieces? This isn't supposed to be the same "earthshaking" electronic drums drenched rendition of the original, if you wanna get technical about what exactly can be referred to as sappy. And despite my tongue in cheek comments on Collins original, I do love it, and this cover of the classic tune. Collins' original cut was never my favorite single of his (the rest of "Face Value" blows it away!). I like this 1 better.
BENJ1969 6 months ago
David Sanborn is completely capable of playing whatever style of music he wishes. He is a University of Iowa graduate and performed in the jazz groups there during his undergraduate years. Perhaps it's time to quit rationalizing "Your" take on other people's music and just dig it. I may suggest reading Aaron Copland's book, "How To Listen To Music" and keep comments to the 3rd plane of listening. This will keep petty arguments off of nice posts like this. Enjoy the music folks. Nice job D!
osceola64 1 year ago 5
oh lord!
fyesaotome 2 years ago
Great, really great.
CY10111970 2 years ago
What year was this?
bejerama 2 years ago
love this track ... love quincey what ever he does
lavendermo28 2 years ago
ваше бютифол...это херня ..филл это сила и музыка
aieks1 2 years ago
Beautiul arrangement, but I would've prefered vocals instead of sax. I thought all saxamephones were destroyed in 1990!! Reminds me of Frank. (Zappa)
drawlbag 2 years ago
The Collins Big Band Album, "Hot Night in Paris", doesn't have this track; shame. I think this is the best thing he ever did with his big band. I can only assume that it was a performing rights issue. My genuine thanks to LeoShepard for posting this rare gem.
chateauflood 2 years ago
A friend of mine had the track on *some* CD and gave it to me, so whether it was commercially released or not, it was definitely given the same kind of quality audio recording the rest of the concert got. It's out there if you look around.
ErsatzWino 1 year ago
I heard that song already better
LuigiRianeri 2 years ago
From 1:07 to 1:30 is the momment that i like so much. Best Phill's performer
emercito 2 years ago
eres grande phil no hay compracion
yanitzen 2 years ago
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Truelight0 2 years ago
Quincy Jones is the man
bejerama 2 years ago
Gerald albright plays it his style.
I think both are nice. It shows the different
playing methods of two awesome musicians.
i Have both under my fav'ss :)
awesome.....
gustosax66 2 years ago 2
sorry, I like the version of gerald albright better, check him out , there is a nice version on youtube
drummer070708 2 years ago
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Truelight0 2 years ago
Two different players 1 technique + 1 soulful = good musicianship....
Truelight0 2 years ago
uf uf exellent!!!!
Parizanama 2 years ago
Listen Pearlyilove you, when sanborn plays the way he does, it raises the level of the band with the remarkable harmony he uses, with the high C i beleive being played repeatedly. He " inspires the bad" and they are "playing" off his feed back. So please, know what your talking about before insulting a legend..
johnny698charles 3 years ago
Amen Johnny
Truelight0 2 years ago
in Eb, it's a D.
regards
thewendigo 2 years ago
Nathan east.
OnTheRoof1 3 years ago
For those who is in doubt with Sanborn 's work.
Try to find " A concerto with Sax" by The late Michael Kamen...
You'll know that the man has done it all.
kaojing1 3 years ago
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Amazing! Every1 one BUT the main sax.
He does too many offbeats and it sounds BAD!
however, if it would indeed have been a mimic to the way Phil sings in the record- it could have been one of the best songs in Phil's bigband
PearlyILoveYou 3 years ago
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I'm with you.
ErsatzWino 3 years ago
Actually, over time I've come to re-evaluate my opinion here. I found an mp3 of this performance, and when the visual is taken away and I just listen to the music, it sounds perfect. The last three minutes are especially amazing.
ErsatzWino 3 years ago
guess phil has been listening to a lot of gil evans when sanborn used to play... :)
saxshooter 3 years ago
Luis Conte, great percussionist!
BigBoiJC 3 years ago 5
Thats what made him so famous. slide in and out, hit the climax when you least expected it. Love the bas as well
Troidongxula 3 years ago
where could i get it in mp3 ?? :) Please help me.
dylek123 3 years ago
Nathan East on Bass!
H3A7 3 years ago
And Daryl Steurmer on guitar, Collins played it safe here.
WouterJ 2 years ago
That was real chill out stuuf. I liked it - would have loved to have seen it live
happylarry08 4 years ago
This is interesting, but I gotta say I like the video with Gerald Albright doing this arrangement much better. I was REALLY psyched to hear Sanborn doing it but it's like he's not even hearing the band behind him; he's totally missing the groove and never really fits into it...he's always somewhere outside of it, and not in an artful way.
goldeneye00756 4 years ago
Are you serious? Albright's tone is no where as affective as Sanborn's, this version is clearly better. As for him not fitting in, listen more carefully, clearly nails this...in a very artful way. Albright is a more RnB player and works better in Against All Odds where as this is perfect for Sanborn's sound.
ausley1987 4 years ago
This is just an ignorant statement, goldeneye00756. Gerald Albright and Sanborn are rather different schools of playing. And this is a typical Sanborn's kind of playing. Very tasteful and laid-back. That's the way the guy plays.
NaZirCon 3 years ago
I wish he had put this on his PEARLS album; it really would have shaken that up.
Sanborn's playing is masterful, as always. Great stuff. Phil Collins is smiling all the way to the bank because of this one :)
jalabi99 3 years ago
@goldeneye00756 You nailed it. Albright is much better player than Sanborn. Gerald can play straight ahead jazz as well as r&b. Sanborn does not play straight ahead nor has he ever
ceetee21 1 year ago
@ceetee21 You are such an idiot. You can't just say one is a better player than another, just because you don't like the way he plays straight ahead. That can be a good thing or a bad thing. Even IF Sanborn couldn't play as good straight ahead as Gerald, that would mean he was more IN his style. In other words, usually play much better in that style.
And you can't even compare the two. They are so much different... You, sir, are an idiot.
magichristo 1 year ago
@magichristo You don't have to agree with me.That's okay! But may I say to you watch who you are calling an idiot it's just a discussion on David Sanborn's ability to play Jazz.
Be a man and use better choice of words. You don't know me and I'm sure if we were face to face you would be much more respectful.
ceetee21 1 year ago
@ceetee21 No. I'm sorry, but you clearly claimed that Gerald was a "much better player than Sanborn". In general. Only an idiot who knows not much about music would say something like that. So don't talk about something you don't know anything about.
You can't just claim your opinions as facts.
magichristo 1 year ago
@magichristo We can agree to disagree respectively.My knowledge of music is extensive particularly when comes to jazz. So I'm no idiot!!!..
My reference to David Sanborn was strictly about Jazz. Mr. Sanborn has never recorded a straight ahead cd. Do the research.His music is coll it's just not jazz.
ceetee21 1 year ago
@ceetee21 I disagree. ANOTHER HAND (1991) and his more recent HERE AND GONE are both straight-ahead jazz albums by David Sanborn. The JazzTimes article "David Sanborn: The Blues and the Abstract Truth" (2008) agrees with me on this.
jalabi99 10 months ago
@jalabi99 I have about 20 or 22 cd's of David Sanborn in my jazz collection of over 5,000 jazz cd's. Doing only 2 straight ahead jazz records in a span of over 36 years of recording your own music while not put in the circle of the the straight ahead players. The majority of his records are mostly nice pop and r&b instrumentals. Go back listen to them. Starting back in 1975.
ceetee21 9 months ago
Great! don't you have the west side from this jazz festival?
benjibetanzo 4 years ago
fantastic!!!!!!
juance24tap 4 years ago 2