don't know why, don't ask me why but in all his images I can see a very sad Mike inside him, this guy is not happy for some reason, not matter the money or his talent, but I bet he's very deeply sad inside with his life.
ahh man i hate coming onto a perfect video and seeing some bullshit irrelevant convo tht could easily be held on the thouasands of chat mediums now at our disposal
@Cereghini@MarianneBelrose Noo!! Don't be so nice to me, now I feel guilty for my previous comment :( I knew it would happen, all Mika fans are too kind.. Ok, keep chatting girls, it's nothing wrong actually :)
Well, if you really don't want me to be nice to you, I can always put in a few swears. LOL.
Most Mika fans ARE good people, I've noticed. How can we help it? He just makes everyone so happy that there's no need for any kind of fighting. Unless you're a Mika hater. Things might get ugly then.
@Cereghini@MarianneBelrose I know that you both are Mika fans (so am I) and don't wanna sound rude, but do you understand that you are spaming Mika's videos? Maybe you both can chat in private? Sorry once again if that sounds rude, it's just my opinion ;) and sorry for my english, I hope you understand what I mean..
@milduzis3 You don't have to apologize for sounding rude, because you don't sound rude at all. Your english is actually really good. Better, in fact, than many people for whom it is a first language. I'm sorry if I come off as verbose and slightly crazy, I don't mean any harm by it. :)
Sometimes I think Mika can read my mind or something. Between I'm Falling and I See You, it perfectly explains the crushes I had on people when I was younger. If someone thinks Mika doesn't deserve a place in the here-after, then that person needs to take a close look at the religion they follow.
I'm happy you think so. I just can't see Mika burning in Hell for all eternity. The Devil doesn't deserve him, and he most certainly doesn't deserve Hell. Besides, if he were in Hell, all he'd have to do is sing, and the people there would think that they'd died again and gone to Heaven, so it would be entirely against the whole point of the place to bring him there. What do you think of that theory?
@Cereghini All I have to say is, if Mika is going to hell, sign me up, because Mika would take hell and turn it into a party. An eternal party. And what could possibly be better than that?
I think that if he has any chance at all of going to Hell, more than 75% of the population of the Earth would be going with him, because he's the best of all of us. If the very best of humanity can go to Hell, what chance do the rest of us have?
@Cereghini A Sunday school teacher once told me,"God loves us all. He knows all our names, and sees everything we do." I long ago parted ways with the Christian religion, for various reasons, but I don't see how they can believe in a god that they say cares so much, and yet would banish the majority of his "children", as they say, to an eternity of hellfire and damnation. Mika seems like a genuinely wonderful person. If there is a god who would send him to hell, I could never worship that god.
I am a christian (I think I told you that), and in the Bible, it actually says that there is more room in Heaven than there is in Hell. In other words, more people are going to Heaven than Hell, which only makes sense, because most people aren't sadistic jackasses or criminals.
If you don't mind me asking, why did you abandon Christianity? I'm not trying to be rude; just curious. You don't need to tell me if you don't want to.
@Cereghini I was raised in a conservative Christian home. We went to church every Sunday. I went to various private Christian schools. We held prayers on Tuesdays. As I got older, I realized that I didn't agree with their beliefs. I'm omnisexual(as I've said before), and I think the real turning point was while I was still in the closet. I was having a conversation with my mother about someone else in our community that had come out.
@CereghiniShe said,"Her mother needs to beat some sense into her." I was horrified. After that, I put off coming out for a very long time. After that, I decided to read the Bible. Though there are many beautiful passages, like the one you mentioned, there are so many that seem to portray God as a jealous, violent, and unforgiving creator. I tried talking to my pastor, sunday school teacher, and even my real teachers, but none of them could give me any good reason why I should be a Christian.
I consider myself as more of a liberal Christian. It's not that I don't have a strong faith, but at the same time, I'll never tell someone that they're wrong for what they believe.
Which passages were you reading? The Old Testament is more prone to portray God as a vengeful entity, punishing His creations for sinning. However, I personally find that the New Testament adds a different dimension to that. God, through Jesus, is portrayed as a compassionate Saviour and Father.
@Cereghini I read the entire thing. I understand that the New testament is a far more forgiving piece of work. One of the biggest questions that they couldn't answer was,
"If it is through believing in Jesus Christ we are saved, what happens to the people that don't believe?"
Their reply,"They would burn in hell."
"Even if they were a good person?" Which is apparently justifying worth through works rather than faith, which the branch I belonged to didn't believe in.
I've been taught that you get to Heaven bassed on faith AND merrit. You can still go to Heaven with one but not the other, but I personally believe that merrit is the more important of the two. After all, I'm pretty sure that when Jesus was dead in the tomb for three days, He was down in Hell rescuing all of the people of merrit who were there. That's what I heard He'd been doing at that point, anyway. Sin died with Jesus on the Cross, so everyone who is good should be saved.
@Cereghini There are so many versions of the Christian faith. I have found many liberal Christians who have a system of belief much closer to my own. Please don't be offended, but would you say that your faith is more based on your personal moral values, or the actual teachings of the Bible?
No no, I'm not offended. As I have never even read the Bible all the way through (though I fully intend to one of these days) I think that my faith is more bassed on my own perceptions of morality, and on the way I was raised. One tends to believe what they are taught to believe until they are old enough to form their own opinions, but I think that the opinions of my parents are pretty much congruent to my own, even at this point in my life (I'm almost 21).
@Cereghini I think the fact that my parents views on morality so openly opposed mine, made it harder for me to find a middle ground. For awhile I was an atheist, but the fact of the matter is, I still have the feeling that there is some form of here-after. An atheist I know said,"You're just one of those sensitive, touchy feely people. That's why you cling to the idea of a spiritual world." Maybe he's right, I don't know. He thinks facts should come before feelings, but I can't help how I feel.
That's the whole problem though, isn't it? We DON'T know what's out there. I know for a fact that there is life after death, but you never know if there's a God involved in that. I hope there is, but like I said, you never know. I would consider YOU, my friend, to be agnostic in that case. You seem to describe yourself as one anyway. You know (or believe) that there is a hereafter, but like me and everyone else alive at this point, you don't necessarily know what that entails.
@Cereghini Yes, I suppose that I am an agnostic, because I don't know, or pretend to know, whether or not there is a god. I think rather odd things, especially late at night, like: How do we know that earth isn't actually some form of purgatory? God gives us this life simply to see what we'll do with it. Of course, that God really doesn't sound any sweeter, does he?
Many people seem to want religion because they feel like it gives life purpose, but I think we should create our own purpose.
I think that Earth is our own kind of purgatory. Think about it: the whole concept of purgatory entails ridding the soul of sin, and the whole concept of living a good life here is the exact same thing. Besides, the "realm" of purgatory was created by a corrupt church several centuries ago, and so who says that such a place need actually exist outside the planet Earth itself?
PS- I think that free will is a beautiful thing, and not a curse or a burden. We were created free.
@Cereghini I think free will is a beautiful thing as well. I find it interesting that after coming out of one extreme, I went to the other, before I got where I am now. I think that my beliefs sort of stabilized. I have come to the realization that things aren't always black and white. I've found a balance between spirituality, and my love for the truth. In many ways, My life became happier when I abandoned Christianity. I no longer have to try to find meaning where there never was any.
That's the whole idea with free will: to find your own purpose. You don't need organized religion to define who you are. I am what I consider to be a good Christian, but it's not my religion, or fear of retalliation from God, that makes me want to do good things, or to avoid evil things. Conscience can develop outside of a religious perspective. You can believe as much as you want, but in the end, I really do think that all that matters is what you've done.
@Cereghini I'm glad that you feel that way. I don't know about you, but I find something beautiful in the idea of people being kind for the sake of kindness, rather than because they fear the wrath of their god. For some people, religion and morals are so completely intertwined, that they can't even tell them apart. I think that is a problem, or at least in my case it was. It is people like you, and Mika, that gives me hope in humanity. That maybe we're not as lost as we seem.
It's not people like me who keep our race alive. It's Mika. He's so brave and so purely and truly good that it makes my head spin just to think of how quickly he'll be taken into Heaven when he dies. I don't like to think about him dying though. The world needs spirits like his. It's sweet of you to say that you think I'm a good person though, because I actually can be a real jackass. You've seen how I talk to haters, haven't you? I'm as pompous as all hell sometimes.
@Cereghini You may be a pompous jackass at times, but I feel those haters deserve it. I think the fact of the matter is, you are intelligent. You've put thought into your moral beliefs. Some religious people are nothing more than sheep. They follow blindly wherever their faith leads them. Finding people who have a faith, but can still exercise logic and free will makes me feel a little better about this world. Then there is our sweet, brave, beautiful Mika, who falls in a category all his own.
See, the thing about sheep is that they don't have the best lifestyle. They travel in those close-nit groups behind the leader, and so one sheep is always looking up the ass of the sheep in front of it. Not the best view in the world, so I've never really seen that as the best metaphor. I don't know what metaphor I'd like better, but not that one.
I already have problems with my physical eye-sight. I don't need to follow my instincts or my faith blindly too.
@Cereghini Yes, I'm referring to church leaders. Many people who go to church depend upon their preachers interpretation of the Bible, or whatever holy text their religion is based upon. They don't bother to think about it for themselves. It's almost like they feel they have someone else for to think for them.
I did that when I was a child, because back then (you know how little kids think...) I thought that the priest was God. Funny I know, but now that I'm mature, I can interpret the Bible passages in whatever way makes the most sense to me. That is both the strength and weakness of religion: it can be interpreted to mean one thing or the other, and that interpretation depends on a person's own sense of morality and conscience.
@Cereghini For a child, I could see how that would make perfect sense. As a child, I was very trusting. I took whatever my parents, teachers, or preacher said, and I just assumed that they were right. Why would they lie to me, after all? That is in the nature of most children. However, just like you, now that I'm mature, I can make my own decisions based on my own beliefs. It's when people seem to stay in that almost childlike state, where I think the problems may arise. What do you think?
I think that it takes a certain amount of both maturity and bravery to say "I need to choose for myself now". As you say, children are trusting, and that is how they are supposed to be, I think, but as we age, it is essential that we learn to develop our own sense of morality, and our own beliefs about the world around us. Growth can't happen without independence. I think that those who rely heavily on others to make decisions for them are afraid of what will happen otherwise.
@Cereghini That makes sense. I especially agree about the bravery. I think it takes a strange sort of bravery to be able to stand against people that you love and respect. Sometimes I wonder if I did the right thing. I gained independence, but in the process, I lost the respect I once had for my parents. If you don't mind me asking, why have you stayed a Christian?
Do you remember Dumbledore's line in Philosopher's Stone where he says "It takes a great deal of courage to stand up to our enemies, but a great deal more to stand up to our friends"? This is a prime example of that philosophy. How do you say no to those you respect and love? But like I said, gaining independence is all just a part of growing up.
As for the second half of that question, stay tuned for response #2...
@Cereghini Dumbledore was a very wise old man, and in extension, I suppose that means that J.K. Rowling is wise as well. Or she's just great at creating wise characters.
Dumbledore and JK Rowling FTW. Love that book series. It's the only one I've ever read all the way through, next to Twilight, but we won't talk about that. Ugh, I can't BELIEVE I read those books! Alright, Breaking Dawn was good, but the rest of it was pretty crappy.
Why did I stay a Christian? I don't mind telling you, even though it is somewhat personal. I've had a LOT of issues with my health throughout my life, resulting in several stays in the hospital, accompanied by just as many neurological surgeries. Look up Hydrocephalus and you'll find out why. Anyways, I like to try and pray for healing, because I get the sense that God listens when you're in honest trouble. It worked for me too, so that maintained my faith pretty effectively.
@Cereghini I can understand how that experience would strengthen your faith. I like what John Green of the vlogbrothers had to say about religion. He said,"Religion is a response to revelation, and different people respond to revelation differently." I think that often people stay with the religion they were raised with, until they are giving an overwhelming reason to leave. Maybe that's why, even though you and I, most likely, have a lot in common morally, we are part of different religions.
Hmm...let me try and explain this better. Hydrocephalus has the potential to cause a LOT of pain, and if it's untreated, it can kill you. Also, almost all people who are born with it are severely developmentally delayed. As you can tell, I'm not developmentally delayed, and I'd like to think that God had a hand in turning the tide in my favour. And as for the hospital stays, every time I prayed to get through, I did. You see how that would work in building my faith, don't you?
@Cereghini Oh, I definitely do understand why you would have a strong faith in God. I, in no way, question your sincerity. I think you might as well know that you are, hands down, the most intelligent person I've ever spoken with on the internet. I'm just saying that you most likely believe in Christianity, rather than another faith based, god centered religion, because that is what you grew up with. I didn't mean to question your conviction, if that is what you felt I did.
No, I never once thought that you were questioning my convictions. I didn't know that you meant Christianity specifically, rather than Islam or some other God-centred faith. As to that, yes, I would say that that's because of how I was raised.
I'm the most intelligent person you've spoken to on the Net? Wow, you must have spoken to some real idiots if I'm the smartest one you've found. XD But seriously, thanks for that. You know I'm a narcissist, so that definitely helps.
@Cereghini When it comes to people on the internet, they either tend to be complete monologuists, haters, or you end up feeling like you were speaking with a nine year old. Some of these people just have no comprehension whatsoever. Others, you feel as if they're not even trying to understand, and they just want someone to fight with. I have met a few who I've managed to have intelligent conversations with; but none of them had your vocabulary, wit, or coherency. You shine above the rest.
The one thing I don't like about YouTube is the fact that you don't know how old that hater is you just yelled at. Know what I mean? They could be freaking eight years old, and I'm not one to yell at kids. Judging by the kind of language they usually use, I'd say that they'd better damn well be older than that, but you never know.
AWW! Look how good you are at making me fall in love with myself even more! I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing, but it's working.
@Cereghini I know, it would be weird if I was arguing with a child who, in all actuality, was probably up past their bedtime. I try to be at least somewhat civil to everybody, although I fail often enough. I think it's strange that people come on places like this just to say stupid things. I've asked several of them,"What's the point?" They seem to find it genuinely funny that I would think there is a point to posting comments on YouTube.
There is a point to posting. It's called socialization. And if they can't socialize in a mature and morally upright manner, they have no need to be here. I hate haters, and especially Mika haters. What could he have done to deserve it? He's just so freaking sweet! Aww, my darling little Mika-boo...♥♥♥
@Cereghini In our society, we have socially acceptable patterns of behavior. We also have things that are socially unacceptable. Going up to someone simply to tell them you hate them, I would think, is unacceptable in a civilized society. But on the internet, it's almost as though all of those rules get flung out of the window. Mika gives us so many things. He brings joy to so many through his music and radiant personality. If anyone deserves to be immune to slander, it would be Mika. ♥ ♥ ♥
Well yeah. Think about it in terms of real life. How would you like a complete stranger to come up to you, and just randomly say "I hate you" and then just walk away? Not the most socially acceptable behaviour, like you said. Besides, Mika is a gift to this world, and who in their right mind doesn't like gifts, eh?
@Cereghini Mika is one of the greatest gifts ever given to this earth. No one in their right mind could possibly find something wrong with his existence. People who take the time to troll on all of his videos, have to be taking the time to watch them, right? How is it, that after all the Mika videos they've watched, they're still not in love with him? XD
I know. I think that they might just have a problem with his falsetto, because it sounds "gay" to the untrained ear. I am a singer myself though, and I think that the fact that he can go that high, seemingly without effort, is very impressive. As for his personality, it would be physically and logically impossible for me to hate him. He almost reminds me of myself, but accentuated to the highest degree possible. Like...if I'm a flashlight, he is the sun. You get the picture.
@Cereghini He sort of reminds me of myself too. I'm not a singer, but I grew up listening to opera. My mom was a complete opera fanatic. So maybe it just doesn't sound as odd to me as it would to some other people. But I just don't understand how people can think that he sounds gay. I know a lot of gay people, and many of them find it offensive that Mika is considered stereotypically gay. Some of them love Mika, but gay people still have unique personalities, and some people don't realize that.
Everyone has a unique personality and their own opinion. The problem is that no one can like everyone else, and so conflict, envy, and ultimately hate, arise. But I like Mika, and I think that he would like me too, because I'm not some grovelling sycophant. Don't get me wrong: I basically worship the ground he walks on, but I'm smart enough not to stammer like a moron if I ever met him. I'd like to have a real conversation with him one of these days. God willing, that is.
@Cereghini I think that I could probably have an intelligent conversation with him. On the outside I would be all cool and collected, and probably say something like,"It's nice to meet you. I have been a fan of your work for years." But on the inside, I would be squealing like a little fan girl. If I ever did get to know him, fates be willing, I would want him to get to know the real me, not just the slightly psychotic side of me that plans trips across the ocean just to see him perform. XD
I'd probably add a "sir" or two in there because I respect him so much, but I'd basically be doing the same thing. Spinning apart (in a good way) on the inside, and trying to keep it together on the outside. It's odd that a fan's love for their favourite artist can be three quarters fear and one quarter love and still call itself love, but I think that you and I are old enough to have our priorities straight. If I were to meet him, my first priority would be to talk to him.
@Cereghini Yes, my first priority would be to talk to him. I've lived long enough to know that you don't win esteem or affection from someone by being a sycophant. If anything, they get annoyed with you after awhile. When I was younger I would get these debilitating crushes. I was basically obsessed, but they never worked out, because I didn't do a good job of coming off as a level headed person. Over the years, I've acquired social skills. Ones I would put to use while talking with Mika.
Exactly. You and I both know that no one likes a kiss-ass, and he's probably gotten the royal treatment from too many fangirls as it is. I think that it's necessary to remember that, even though he's an artist, even though he's young and energetic, even though he's built strong and tall, he's still a human being like the rest of us. I love him BECAUSE he's a human, as a matter of fact. If he were really the god he appeared to be, the differences between us would be too great.
@Cereghini Despite the fact that I think he is a beautiful human being whom I greatly admire, no relationship can be sustained on kiss-assery alone. There has to be understanding and compromise, even amongst people who are casual acquaintances. If the fates ever throw Mika and I together, I would be looking to build something a little stronger than a random fan encounter, all the while trying to make my plans as inconspicuous as possible. If he were a god, rather than a man, I wouldn't even try.
I wouldn't be able to fall in love with a god, because trying to do that is just an easy way to develop an inferiority complex. But since Mika's human, it would be just a little bit easier. I don't think there would be any point in trying to be inconspicuous though, because he is pretty smart, so he'd probably catch on after a while. Besides, relationships have to kind of be a mutual thing, know what I mean? I'd probably try to give him a little kiss if I could though. XD
@Cereghini A kiss, eh? You are a brave one, aren't you? From what I've seen in interviews, he describes himself as shy, so we probably would have to be the ones to start the interaction. I suppose that we would have to take into consideration the circumstances under which we were meeting. If I just met him at a show, I probably wouldn't have time to really talk to him. I wonder where someone would find Mika. It's almost hard to imagine him going to places that normal people go.
I'd like to think that I'm brave, but I know for a fact that I'm not as brave as Mika is. That's alright though, considering the fact that his level of bravery is basically super human. I'd like to just meet him randomly on the street, but since I don't live in England, that's unlikely, unless I go there and "accidentally" go to find him. XD I don't think I'd do that though, because I just don't have the courage to take that step. Yet. Give me a few years, and we'll see. LOL.
@Cereghini I don't think that I want to meet him so much that I would ever attempt to stalk him. I haven't properly stalked someone since I started High School. I swore off stalking people after that. I realized that it was more than a little creepy, when I stopped to think about it. He records in Los Angeles, though, doesn't he? That might be a bit more realistic turn of events for me. I go into Los Angeles from time to time. ;)
Oh no, I would never stalk him. Like I siad, I respect him too much. Besides, I know that he's a man who likes his privacy, to a certain degree. But yeah, I've heard that he records in LA too, so for you at least, that might be a bit more realistic. That is, if you had the nerve to go and look for him. ;-)
@Cereghini Yeah, I definitely respect Mika, and the space around him. Because of that, I would never intentionally set out to just follow him around. However, in the event that I saw him out someplace, I might not have the nerve to go up to him, and end up just sort of following him around, which was basically what I did when I was younger. I like to believe, though, that I have matured a great deal in the past ten years, and have grown a spine in the process.
Of COURSE you've matured since you were 16! Hell, even I've matured since then, and I'm only 20, so you've got six years of maturity on me. Wait, you ARE 26, right? I think I read that on your profile. You don't mind that I went and checked your profile out, do you?
Well, if I just saw him randomly, I'd just discreetly change course, and walk casually up to him and be like, "Oh my God! Mika! What a surprise!"
@Cereghini Yep, I'm twenty-six. Of course I don't mind you looking at my profile. That's what it's there for, right? I know that I've matured, but there are times when I still feel like that insecure sixteen year old version of myself. You know what I mean? If I were to come face to face with Mika, it's possible that I would revert to my old habit of running away from people I like. I do really well with people in real life, but Mika would probably be different. He is so special, after all.
Exactly. We wouldn't bother creating these profiles if we didn't want people to look at them. I put a lot of effort into mine, but that was a while ago and I'm thinking about changing it.
Well, we can all be like that sometimes. It's called human insecurity, and it happens to the best of us. Hell, I'd bet even Mika is insecure sometimes.
Mika wouldn't give you any reason to run away. He's not a bad guy, you know. He's just really fiery, but that's what I love about him..
@Cereghini I know he wouldn't give me any reason to run off, but I'm rather good at creating my own reasons. I might even be so silly as to feel bad that I was imposing myself upon him. I wouldn't want to be bothering him. Up until a few years ago, I had the policy that I never spoke to someone unless they spoke to me first. My reasoning was that is someone wanted to speak to me, they would; but then I just ended up getting left out of a lot of things, and felt really lonely in the process.
My friends don't think this is true, but I honestly think that I'm a bit of an introvert myself, so I know how you feel. Being lonely is never fun though, and so we all need someone around us every once in a while, just to keep us company. It's nice to have someone to talk to without having to type messages to them. Know what I mean?
Oh come on now, it's not like you'd be throwing yourself at him. Like I said, we're both smart enough and old enough not to do anything stupid.
@Cereghini I know what you mean. It really is nice to be able to have someone to go places with, and talk to on a regular basis. I'm really reserved around people I don't know; but once I get to know them, it's impossible for them to get me to stop talking. A friend of mine once said that talking to me was like opening Pandora's Box.
Yeah, I wouldn't do anything stupid, at least not intentionally. I won't be jumping out of bushes at him or anything like that.
jumping out from behind bushes? I wouldn't do that to him if you payed me. I think you and I can both agree that that's creepy.
So...now that we're friends, you'll never shut up around me? XD I kid, but I also don't think that it's like opening Pandora's Box. That was a box full of all of the sins and hardships that ever had the chance to fall on mankind: illness, old age, hunger, poverty, war, famine, death. I think your talking is a little bit nicer than that. LOL.
@Cereghini Well, I've never jumped from out of a bush at someone. I am rather mischievous, though, and have been know to jump out of closets and from around corners and yell,"Gotcha!" and then run off giggling. That's only with people who I know pretty well, though.
Yeah, you're pretty much stuck with me now. I'll just go on and on forever. Sometimes when I'm talking, I think that all people around me can hear is *Wah wah Bacon wah wah wah Mika Wah Wah Ah*
No, it's more like, "Blah blah blah Mika, blah blah blah WHEEEE blah blah blah I have a smart new friend."
Sorry, had to put that last part in. You know how I love to stroke my own ego. XD You know I'm only joking. I'm not THAT oblivious to what people say.
My brother used to do that kind of thing to me all the time. Nearly gave me a freaking heart attack more than once.
Hey, I don't mind being stuck with you. It's better than being stuck with a Mika hater. Much better.
@Cereghini I have been smacked upside the head more than once for my tom foolery. That just adds to the excitement of the hunt, though. I never know when my prey will strike back! I can be a bit of a clown sometimes. It's funny because people who are just getting to know me don't see that side of me right away. So the first time I do something silly, it always takes them by surprise.
I'm glad that I'm better than a Mika hater. If I was one of them, I wouldn't be able to live with myself.
You sound like quite the impressive little hunter though. I wouldn't want to play tag with you if that's the case. You any good at tag?
You're allowed to act crazy, just as long as you're not a Mika hater. Those people have no freaking souls. I talked to one last night who called me something pretty dirty. I hate people like that. Go and look at Rain if you feel like helping out, because I'm not the only one he's bothering.
Hahaha, we all need a good smack upside the head every once in a while. Not too good for the equilibrium, though. I wonder if you could beat me at tag? You probably could, but not at hide and seek. I once hid in a closet from my brother for a good two hours. My parents had to come find me.
I have one word to describe that guy on Rain: uncouth. It's really annoying to have to deal with people like that, but I guess it can't be helped sometimes. God though, what a vocabulary!
@Cereghini I am terrible at hide and seek. I make to much noise. I get all nervous while I'm hiding and start giggling hysterically.
I think that someone who has to drag religion into an argument has already lost. If you can't find facts to substantiate your claim, either don't make it, or acknowledge that it is an opinion. The person on Rain needs to have their mouth washed out with soap.
My mom used to brush our teeth with soap if we said something really bad. It's actually more effective than just sticking a bar of soap in your mouth. XD Eww.
I'm like a freaking ghost when I want to be. I'm small, so I don't make too much noise if I'm barefoot.
Some things about religion are facts, I think, but that's just me.
I prefer to keep facts and faith as separate entities. I can be persuaded with facts. You are far less likely to convince me of anything if your only proof is a passage from the Bible. I much prefer a nice scientific study.
@Cereghini If you're interested in seeing how many Atheists view religion, you could check out dawkinschannel, as well as richarddawkinsdotnet here on youtube. The first has a complete series of documentaries that originally aired in Britain, while the second has speeches. They deal mostly with religion, evolution, and things like that. I should warn you that I do have a tendency to exchange meaningless banter on certain videos. I don't mean for people to take it seriously.
@Cereghini Their reasons varied from,"It is not ours to question why." to "Well, If Heaven is a place for God, why should he allow people to live there who don't follow his rules?" to "Unless you want to go to Hell, you better believe it." I didn't feel those answers were good enough. I still don't. The Bible is the foundation for the Christian belief, and after reading it, I just couldn't continue to be a part of the faith.
@Cereghini When I was in school, I was taught creationism in science. For the greater part of my youth, I had basically said,"Well, if it's in a textbook, it must be true. Why would a textbook lie?" I learned later that the writers of the textbook had been extremely biased. They vilified evolution, using often untrue statements to 'show' why you should believe in the account found in the bible, rather than believe in evolution.
@Cereghini As I got older, and went further out into the world, I found that the statements they made were either untrue, or were based mostly in opinion, rather than fact. Or if it was a fact, they twisted it for their own use.
@Cereghini I suppose that the easiest way of saying it was that I had a rotten experience that caused me to shun organized religion. They made me feel like I had been lied to and used. It was this unyielding form of religion that caused my parents to turn their backs on me. The church preached of hellfire and damnation for homosexuals and skeptics.
There are a lot of people who don't like organized religion for that very reason. Thing is, I don't think it's God's fault. People are always screwing up the real meaning of the Bible, and every other religious text known to man. I think that people as a whole can be pretty stupid when it comes to religion. We make it into what WE want it to be, which isn't always the most healthy approach. But in the end, the message of religion should be love. What else matters next to love?
@Cereghini I can definitely understand how people could get confused. Even I have only my limited understanding with which to comprehend its meaning. I value love among many things. I also value the truth, and the people who search for it. Kindness, but only the kind that is given when the person expects nothing in return. Since my experience, I have learned to look at everything with a critical eye. I like to see proof, and the Bible offers very little proof to substantiate its claims.
@Cereghini I eventually came out to my parents, and though they never raised a hand to me. They never treated me the same afterwards. In the community we were living in at the time, I basically got black listed. People stopped talking to me, worried they would catch some sort of 'gay' virus. People told their children to watch out for me, because I was the work of the devil. It was not long after my coming out, that I moved away from home.
@Cereghini My sister, who still lives at home, has recently realized that she is asexual. Though I seriously doubt that they will be as against her orientation as they are mine, I still worry about her. At least if they shut down on her, she still has me. Um... The end?
Oh Mika, Mika! There is no question in my heart or mind that you will be in Heaven with the Father! There is nothing, too, that my little pen-pal here could say to make me doubt your worth. He may think that his life is worth more than mine, but I seriously doubt that he does anything more substantial with his time than I do.
And there you have me talking to the jerk without actually talking to the jerk. BAM!
I'm guessing that this is an earlier version of I see you. It's a shame I don't own this version too. @Cereghini You found yourself quite the pen-pal there, haven't you? His advice to you seems rather odd. He tells you to get a life, yet does he lead a life any more interesting or better than yours? I seriously doubt it.
I wonder why most of his fans are female? Oh yeah, because he's gorgeous, and women tend to have a thing for a guy that they know is good. You? Not so much. I wouldn't date you in a million years.
@shussey100 mika is a verry talented musician and he is 1000x better than any x factor musician and does it matter what his fans are (most are female) he has more fans than you!!!! why watch or bother about him if you don't like him??
Shut your mouth, hater filth. You have no business on any Mika video. You know that everyone on his videos hates you, and we have from the moment you began to bully him. You aren't making yourself look any bigger or better by preying on Mika, so go and find a victim who actually deserves your emnity. You are not an intelligent person I know, but there are ways in which you can make yourself look at least a little bit less stupid, and leaving him alone would be a good first step.
Of course you have freedom of speech, but that doesn't mean that anyone wants to hear you speak. You need to learn to discern between a situation in which it is proper to speak, and a situation in which it is not.
@Cereghini Fine that is settled. I will tell the whole world what he is a fake who hides his sexuality to prey his music on little girls while he get's shagged at night by his boyfriend. The same one i might add that had collapsed his anal walls.
Why do you feel the need to be so incredibly rude? You're nothing but a child to me, even if you're older than I am. I don't know if you ARE older than me, but that's not relevant to me at this point. You're the one who is pretying, by the way. If you've read any of my comments to you, you'll know that I believe Mika to be entirely without fault when it comes to his music, and his personality isn't that far behind in that impression either. He's a good man. Why do you hate him?
get a life girl, ur such a typical girl. if you like mika tika hair, u might as well fall in love with all that busted band or dat new justin bieber crap. loool. theres more to life u know. where country u from....
I think that those people who insult others for their loyalties are the ones who need to grow up and get a life, personally. If you can't maintain a polite tone with me, then I'm going to be a real bitch with you, and you don't want to see that. Trust me, you DON'T want to see that.
PS- I'm from Canada. How about you?
PPS- Justin Bieber is the bane of my existence. Him and Ke$ha. Ugh, HATE THEM!
PPPS- He might have pretty hair, but that's the least of what I love about him.
@Cereghini loooool, u had to say that twice!! No wonder, i was assuming ur not from the UK. We dont roll with that type of shit here. canada seems like a nice country, but its too much on the retired side for me, as im only 25. Im still on the Hype. Ur gone too old too early. loooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
Oh yeah, I forgot that I already told you that. Hey man, I just got out of my first year of university about a week and a half ago. I'm allowed to be lazy and not go back and read old comments.
You're 25? Oh, no wonder you think I'm a baby. There's a big difference in life experience between the half-decades. I'll be 21 in August though, if you care.
Canada's population is aging, but only 4% of us are above the age of 84. We're actually still considered a young country.
@Cereghini Why the fuck am I even talking to you about this ina mina dika behind a cyber optic screen. I dont even know you, what do I loose how I speak to you. get out more, go to sum bhangra nights clubbing or something than that mika piano shit. loooooooooooooooooool
PS- I know you don't know me, and I'm MORE than happy that I don't know you, but I'm pretty sure that you're the one who started this whole conversation. I'm pretty sure, too, that if you're the one insulting me, I'm not the one who needs to get out more. Get a girlfriend or something, and THEN you'll learn how to talk to a woman.
PPS- I say girlfriend because I'm almost positive (judging by how you talk) that you're a guy. You ARE a guy, right?
You're bisexual? Cool, cool. You DO know (sorry if I sound condescending, but I'm just trying to make sure) that that means you're attracted to both genders, right? It doesn't mean that you have the sexual organs of both genders. That's transexual. Like I said, not trying to sound like a bitch. I'm just making sure that you have your tems right before you make a claim about yourself. Or about my Mika, for that matter.
Hey man, it's hard to pick up on sarcasm when you're not actually physically speaking to someone. I KNEW you were a guy though! I'm so smart. And pretty egotistical too, now that I think about it.
And I can't just go and have sex with the guy whenever I want to. For one thing, I live in Canada and he lives in England. For another, he's too old for me and he doesn't even know that I'm alive. Meh. It's a fact of life. Some guys are just unavailable, sadly.
I'm 20, and if you were paying attention you would know that. And opera singers are actually pretty talented. I should know: one of them teaches me vocal (and piano), though I'm not an opera singer myself. My teacher is a wonderful singer and a REALLY nice guy.
Good Lord, do you have a split personality? One second you're talking to me like a civilized human being, and the next you sound like a complete ass. Wait, are you the anger management guy? Like I siad, I'm too lazy at the moment to go back and read comments. If you're the anger management guy, then...I GUESS it's okay. Just try to remember that I'm not trying to be a bitch to you, 'kay?
@Cereghini yeh, sorry i have to work on my anger management techniques. But, I am frustrated with this mikas hair and songs. and ur driving me crazy. are you handicapped by the way
@Cereghini loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool, i was born and bread in London England, and i have never heard of this guy, let alone know that he is from england, until u just told me! LMFAO!!!!!
That's not your fault, or his. I've heard that London England is a MASSIVE city, and he's not even from London proper. Kensington, actually, and I'm not entirely positive where that is. I know that it's in and around London at least. Anyways, the only reason I know any of this is because I did my research. Not a big deal. Besides, he is a relatively new artist, only around since about 2005-2006, so not everyone is going to know as much about him as I do.
@Cereghini No silly, londons not as big as it seems. And if this guys from kensington, that means im proberbly 15 mins drive from him, as I live in the borough of Westminster! lol. If I ever bump into him I'll tell him about how crazy you are from him, and then slap him on his face for you tube sake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh, are you really that close to him? Lucky you. If I could change places with you, even for a day, I'd do it without hesitation.
You'd tell him how crazy I am for him? Aww, thanks! Good luck pronouncing my name though. No one can pronounce my surname correctly the first time. But...if you were to strike him, I'd advise you not to be surprised if you found yourself on the ground two seconds later, wondering what the hell hit you. He'd FLOOR you, no question.
Well, my surname is Cereghini. But give me your name and I'll give you mine. I don't like giving out my name on the Internet. Mind you, it's on my channel, so you could just go there and look.
No, okay, let's be realistic here. He wouldn't marry me even if he could, because like I said, I'm too young for him. I'm turning 21 this year and he's turning 28, and I think 7 years might just be a bit too much.
You wouldn't have Mika related nightmares. Don't worry. It takes a long time of exposure to something before you can dream about it. I learned about dreams in psychology, and they're not so easily attained as all that.
@Cereghini How are you mailing me, Im not as fluent as the new generation in using you tube and net. why didnt I get this msg in my inbox. and whos rachel, did you get a mail from her too.
Beautifull ...
Andso100492BACK 3 days ago
This version is better than ''I See you''! MIKA IS AMAZING!
TheManchesterMoon 2 months ago 4
RIP Mika DX
kaylanshen123 3 months ago
@kaylanshen123 Why did you said that? He's not dead...
milduzis3 2 months ago
adorableMIKA adorable voix ,adorable texte,adorable chanson
SuperDaleke 3 months ago
don't know why, don't ask me why but in all his images I can see a very sad Mike inside him, this guy is not happy for some reason, not matter the money or his talent, but I bet he's very deeply sad inside with his life.
gabrielirlanda 3 months ago
@gabrielirlanda holaI I think the same things like you sins longtime
SuperDaleke 3 months ago
demo for i see you?
Nerdz4evah 3 months ago
Mika is an amazing person musically and spiritually. Only a true geneus could write these words
faithlessbelievers 4 months ago 4
Mika tu esvraiment le meilleur tres jolie chanson et tavoix unique
SuperDaleke 4 months ago
This is a different version of I see You :)
ellsroxanne 4 months ago
I LOVE THIS GUY SO! DAMN! HE'S GOD! I WOULD DO EVERYTHING TO GET A TICKET FOR A CONCERT FROM HIM! <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3
LulluAndSoOn 4 months ago
Dear Mika ,
Please stop being so unbearably gorgeous . Sincerly , you fans
whiskash3h3 4 months ago 8
@whiskash3h3 ...I don't want him to stop...
KeepCalmEatCake 4 months ago in playlist Liked
He is just perfect <3 Mika <3
fandeMika31 5 months ago
turn this song into a pop melody and i hear ...cah ching! i love this song.
luckygirl2b 5 months ago
just can't stop listening to mika! just great!
Marislux 5 months ago
His eyes are gorgeous!
Blueebeel 6 months ago in playlist My Fav. songs
Instant love when i heard this.
SkipSkopSkup 6 months ago in playlist The AMAZING Mika 2
J'kiff trop :D
Zemboway 6 months ago
This is like... a pre-version of I See You
xPabloBokt 6 months ago
This is almost identical to his other song"I see you". but hes singing "Im falling" instead of "I see you"
Sittingonacornflakee 6 months ago
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Sittingonacornflakee 6 months ago
He is bi ;***
OoooTakBejbe 7 months ago
zajebista nuta amerykańcy nudzi wam się ? wszędzie was pęłno :(
OoooTakBejbe 7 months ago
Such a cool voice lol
MrJason300 7 months ago 2
this is my song :)
breakingXkalani 7 months ago
Oh cool, this is like a pre-version of 'I See You' :)
rockinsquirrel111 7 months ago 25
@rockinsquirrel111 well said :)
chemical93girl 5 days ago in playlist Favorite videos
super beau
SuperDaleke 8 months ago
ahh man i hate coming onto a perfect video and seeing some bullshit irrelevant convo tht could easily be held on the thouasands of chat mediums now at our disposal
jupitersocks 8 months ago 39
@Cereghini @MarianneBelrose Noo!! Don't be so nice to me, now I feel guilty for my previous comment :( I knew it would happen, all Mika fans are too kind.. Ok, keep chatting girls, it's nothing wrong actually :)
milduzis3 8 months ago
@milduzis3
Well, if you really don't want me to be nice to you, I can always put in a few swears. LOL.
Most Mika fans ARE good people, I've noticed. How can we help it? He just makes everyone so happy that there's no need for any kind of fighting. Unless you're a Mika hater. Things might get ugly then.
Cereghini 8 months ago
@Cereghini @MarianneBelrose I know that you both are Mika fans (so am I) and don't wanna sound rude, but do you understand that you are spaming Mika's videos? Maybe you both can chat in private? Sorry once again if that sounds rude, it's just my opinion ;) and sorry for my english, I hope you understand what I mean..
milduzis3 8 months ago
@milduzis3
XD Trust me, I know. I noticed that a while ago. We never said that other people couldn't comment though. Please feel free, despite what we're doing.
PS- Your English is actually very good. Where are you from?
Cereghini 8 months ago
@milduzis3 You don't have to apologize for sounding rude, because you don't sound rude at all. Your english is actually really good. Better, in fact, than many people for whom it is a first language. I'm sorry if I come off as verbose and slightly crazy, I don't mean any harm by it. :)
MarianneBelrose 8 months ago
I'm falling!.WMV, search for it, and please make a comment. many many thanks.
vadmyrapower 8 months ago
love this and mika!
farmbutter 8 months ago
Sometimes I think Mika can read my mind or something. Between I'm Falling and I See You, it perfectly explains the crushes I had on people when I was younger. If someone thinks Mika doesn't deserve a place in the here-after, then that person needs to take a close look at the religion they follow.
MarianneBelrose 8 months ago
@MarianneBelrose
I'm happy you think so. I just can't see Mika burning in Hell for all eternity. The Devil doesn't deserve him, and he most certainly doesn't deserve Hell. Besides, if he were in Hell, all he'd have to do is sing, and the people there would think that they'd died again and gone to Heaven, so it would be entirely against the whole point of the place to bring him there. What do you think of that theory?
Cereghini 8 months ago
@Cereghini All I have to say is, if Mika is going to hell, sign me up, because Mika would take hell and turn it into a party. An eternal party. And what could possibly be better than that?
MarianneBelrose 8 months ago
@MarianneBelrose
I think that if he has any chance at all of going to Hell, more than 75% of the population of the Earth would be going with him, because he's the best of all of us. If the very best of humanity can go to Hell, what chance do the rest of us have?
Cereghini 8 months ago
@Cereghini A Sunday school teacher once told me,"God loves us all. He knows all our names, and sees everything we do." I long ago parted ways with the Christian religion, for various reasons, but I don't see how they can believe in a god that they say cares so much, and yet would banish the majority of his "children", as they say, to an eternity of hellfire and damnation. Mika seems like a genuinely wonderful person. If there is a god who would send him to hell, I could never worship that god.
MarianneBelrose 8 months ago
@MarianneBelrose
I am a christian (I think I told you that), and in the Bible, it actually says that there is more room in Heaven than there is in Hell. In other words, more people are going to Heaven than Hell, which only makes sense, because most people aren't sadistic jackasses or criminals.
If you don't mind me asking, why did you abandon Christianity? I'm not trying to be rude; just curious. You don't need to tell me if you don't want to.
Cereghini 8 months ago
@Cereghini It's all right. It's a long and involved story, though, so I hope you won't mind. I'll have to say it in more than one post.
MarianneBelrose 8 months ago
@Cereghini I was raised in a conservative Christian home. We went to church every Sunday. I went to various private Christian schools. We held prayers on Tuesdays. As I got older, I realized that I didn't agree with their beliefs. I'm omnisexual(as I've said before), and I think the real turning point was while I was still in the closet. I was having a conversation with my mother about someone else in our community that had come out.
MarianneBelrose 8 months ago
@CereghiniShe said,"Her mother needs to beat some sense into her." I was horrified. After that, I put off coming out for a very long time. After that, I decided to read the Bible. Though there are many beautiful passages, like the one you mentioned, there are so many that seem to portray God as a jealous, violent, and unforgiving creator. I tried talking to my pastor, sunday school teacher, and even my real teachers, but none of them could give me any good reason why I should be a Christian.
MarianneBelrose 8 months ago
@MarianneBelrose
I consider myself as more of a liberal Christian. It's not that I don't have a strong faith, but at the same time, I'll never tell someone that they're wrong for what they believe.
Which passages were you reading? The Old Testament is more prone to portray God as a vengeful entity, punishing His creations for sinning. However, I personally find that the New Testament adds a different dimension to that. God, through Jesus, is portrayed as a compassionate Saviour and Father.
Cereghini 8 months ago
@Cereghini I read the entire thing. I understand that the New testament is a far more forgiving piece of work. One of the biggest questions that they couldn't answer was,
"If it is through believing in Jesus Christ we are saved, what happens to the people that don't believe?"
Their reply,"They would burn in hell."
"Even if they were a good person?" Which is apparently justifying worth through works rather than faith, which the branch I belonged to didn't believe in.
MarianneBelrose 8 months ago
@MarianneBelrose
I've been taught that you get to Heaven bassed on faith AND merrit. You can still go to Heaven with one but not the other, but I personally believe that merrit is the more important of the two. After all, I'm pretty sure that when Jesus was dead in the tomb for three days, He was down in Hell rescuing all of the people of merrit who were there. That's what I heard He'd been doing at that point, anyway. Sin died with Jesus on the Cross, so everyone who is good should be saved.
Cereghini 8 months ago
@Cereghini There are so many versions of the Christian faith. I have found many liberal Christians who have a system of belief much closer to my own. Please don't be offended, but would you say that your faith is more based on your personal moral values, or the actual teachings of the Bible?
MarianneBelrose 8 months ago
@MarianneBelrose
No no, I'm not offended. As I have never even read the Bible all the way through (though I fully intend to one of these days) I think that my faith is more bassed on my own perceptions of morality, and on the way I was raised. One tends to believe what they are taught to believe until they are old enough to form their own opinions, but I think that the opinions of my parents are pretty much congruent to my own, even at this point in my life (I'm almost 21).
Cereghini 8 months ago
@Cereghini I think the fact that my parents views on morality so openly opposed mine, made it harder for me to find a middle ground. For awhile I was an atheist, but the fact of the matter is, I still have the feeling that there is some form of here-after. An atheist I know said,"You're just one of those sensitive, touchy feely people. That's why you cling to the idea of a spiritual world." Maybe he's right, I don't know. He thinks facts should come before feelings, but I can't help how I feel.
MarianneBelrose 8 months ago
@MarianneBelrose
That's the whole problem though, isn't it? We DON'T know what's out there. I know for a fact that there is life after death, but you never know if there's a God involved in that. I hope there is, but like I said, you never know. I would consider YOU, my friend, to be agnostic in that case. You seem to describe yourself as one anyway. You know (or believe) that there is a hereafter, but like me and everyone else alive at this point, you don't necessarily know what that entails.
Cereghini 8 months ago
@Cereghini Yes, I suppose that I am an agnostic, because I don't know, or pretend to know, whether or not there is a god. I think rather odd things, especially late at night, like: How do we know that earth isn't actually some form of purgatory? God gives us this life simply to see what we'll do with it. Of course, that God really doesn't sound any sweeter, does he?
Many people seem to want religion because they feel like it gives life purpose, but I think we should create our own purpose.
MarianneBelrose 8 months ago
@MarianneBelrose
I think that Earth is our own kind of purgatory. Think about it: the whole concept of purgatory entails ridding the soul of sin, and the whole concept of living a good life here is the exact same thing. Besides, the "realm" of purgatory was created by a corrupt church several centuries ago, and so who says that such a place need actually exist outside the planet Earth itself?
PS- I think that free will is a beautiful thing, and not a curse or a burden. We were created free.
Cereghini 8 months ago
@Cereghini I think free will is a beautiful thing as well. I find it interesting that after coming out of one extreme, I went to the other, before I got where I am now. I think that my beliefs sort of stabilized. I have come to the realization that things aren't always black and white. I've found a balance between spirituality, and my love for the truth. In many ways, My life became happier when I abandoned Christianity. I no longer have to try to find meaning where there never was any.
MarianneBelrose 8 months ago
@MarianneBelrose
That's the whole idea with free will: to find your own purpose. You don't need organized religion to define who you are. I am what I consider to be a good Christian, but it's not my religion, or fear of retalliation from God, that makes me want to do good things, or to avoid evil things. Conscience can develop outside of a religious perspective. You can believe as much as you want, but in the end, I really do think that all that matters is what you've done.
Cereghini 8 months ago
@Cereghini I'm glad that you feel that way. I don't know about you, but I find something beautiful in the idea of people being kind for the sake of kindness, rather than because they fear the wrath of their god. For some people, religion and morals are so completely intertwined, that they can't even tell them apart. I think that is a problem, or at least in my case it was. It is people like you, and Mika, that gives me hope in humanity. That maybe we're not as lost as we seem.
MarianneBelrose 8 months ago
@MarianneBelrose
It's not people like me who keep our race alive. It's Mika. He's so brave and so purely and truly good that it makes my head spin just to think of how quickly he'll be taken into Heaven when he dies. I don't like to think about him dying though. The world needs spirits like his. It's sweet of you to say that you think I'm a good person though, because I actually can be a real jackass. You've seen how I talk to haters, haven't you? I'm as pompous as all hell sometimes.
Cereghini 8 months ago
@Cereghini You may be a pompous jackass at times, but I feel those haters deserve it. I think the fact of the matter is, you are intelligent. You've put thought into your moral beliefs. Some religious people are nothing more than sheep. They follow blindly wherever their faith leads them. Finding people who have a faith, but can still exercise logic and free will makes me feel a little better about this world. Then there is our sweet, brave, beautiful Mika, who falls in a category all his own.
MarianneBelrose 8 months ago
@MarianneBelrose
AWW! Thanks!
See, the thing about sheep is that they don't have the best lifestyle. They travel in those close-nit groups behind the leader, and so one sheep is always looking up the ass of the sheep in front of it. Not the best view in the world, so I've never really seen that as the best metaphor. I don't know what metaphor I'd like better, but not that one.
I already have problems with my physical eye-sight. I don't need to follow my instincts or my faith blindly too.
Cereghini 8 months ago
@Cereghini Ha Ha, I really like how you describe the life of a sheep. Perhaps the blind leading the blind would be better?
MarianneBelrose 8 months ago
@MarianneBelrose
Maybe, but I don't think that God is blind. We're you refering to the church's leaders?
Cereghini 8 months ago
@Cereghini Yes, I'm referring to church leaders. Many people who go to church depend upon their preachers interpretation of the Bible, or whatever holy text their religion is based upon. They don't bother to think about it for themselves. It's almost like they feel they have someone else for to think for them.
MarianneBelrose 8 months ago
@MarianneBelrose
I did that when I was a child, because back then (you know how little kids think...) I thought that the priest was God. Funny I know, but now that I'm mature, I can interpret the Bible passages in whatever way makes the most sense to me. That is both the strength and weakness of religion: it can be interpreted to mean one thing or the other, and that interpretation depends on a person's own sense of morality and conscience.
Cereghini 8 months ago
@Cereghini For a child, I could see how that would make perfect sense. As a child, I was very trusting. I took whatever my parents, teachers, or preacher said, and I just assumed that they were right. Why would they lie to me, after all? That is in the nature of most children. However, just like you, now that I'm mature, I can make my own decisions based on my own beliefs. It's when people seem to stay in that almost childlike state, where I think the problems may arise. What do you think?
MarianneBelrose 8 months ago
@MarianneBelrose
I think that it takes a certain amount of both maturity and bravery to say "I need to choose for myself now". As you say, children are trusting, and that is how they are supposed to be, I think, but as we age, it is essential that we learn to develop our own sense of morality, and our own beliefs about the world around us. Growth can't happen without independence. I think that those who rely heavily on others to make decisions for them are afraid of what will happen otherwise.
Cereghini 8 months ago
@Cereghini That makes sense. I especially agree about the bravery. I think it takes a strange sort of bravery to be able to stand against people that you love and respect. Sometimes I wonder if I did the right thing. I gained independence, but in the process, I lost the respect I once had for my parents. If you don't mind me asking, why have you stayed a Christian?
MarianneBelrose 8 months ago
@MarianneBelrose
Do you remember Dumbledore's line in Philosopher's Stone where he says "It takes a great deal of courage to stand up to our enemies, but a great deal more to stand up to our friends"? This is a prime example of that philosophy. How do you say no to those you respect and love? But like I said, gaining independence is all just a part of growing up.
As for the second half of that question, stay tuned for response #2...
Cereghini 8 months ago
@Cereghini Dumbledore was a very wise old man, and in extension, I suppose that means that J.K. Rowling is wise as well. Or she's just great at creating wise characters.
MarianneBelrose 8 months ago
@MarianneBelrose
Dumbledore and JK Rowling FTW. Love that book series. It's the only one I've ever read all the way through, next to Twilight, but we won't talk about that. Ugh, I can't BELIEVE I read those books! Alright, Breaking Dawn was good, but the rest of it was pretty crappy.
Cereghini 8 months ago
@Cereghini I read the Twilight series too. I agree that we don't talk about it. I understand why it is so popular, but part of me wishes I didn't.
MarianneBelrose 8 months ago
@MarianneBelrose
Why did I stay a Christian? I don't mind telling you, even though it is somewhat personal. I've had a LOT of issues with my health throughout my life, resulting in several stays in the hospital, accompanied by just as many neurological surgeries. Look up Hydrocephalus and you'll find out why. Anyways, I like to try and pray for healing, because I get the sense that God listens when you're in honest trouble. It worked for me too, so that maintained my faith pretty effectively.
Cereghini 8 months ago
@Cereghini I can understand how that experience would strengthen your faith. I like what John Green of the vlogbrothers had to say about religion. He said,"Religion is a response to revelation, and different people respond to revelation differently." I think that often people stay with the religion they were raised with, until they are giving an overwhelming reason to leave. Maybe that's why, even though you and I, most likely, have a lot in common morally, we are part of different religions.
MarianneBelrose 8 months ago
@MarianneBelrose
Hmm...let me try and explain this better. Hydrocephalus has the potential to cause a LOT of pain, and if it's untreated, it can kill you. Also, almost all people who are born with it are severely developmentally delayed. As you can tell, I'm not developmentally delayed, and I'd like to think that God had a hand in turning the tide in my favour. And as for the hospital stays, every time I prayed to get through, I did. You see how that would work in building my faith, don't you?
Cereghini 8 months ago
@Cereghini Oh, I definitely do understand why you would have a strong faith in God. I, in no way, question your sincerity. I think you might as well know that you are, hands down, the most intelligent person I've ever spoken with on the internet. I'm just saying that you most likely believe in Christianity, rather than another faith based, god centered religion, because that is what you grew up with. I didn't mean to question your conviction, if that is what you felt I did.
MarianneBelrose 8 months ago
@MarianneBelrose
No, I never once thought that you were questioning my convictions. I didn't know that you meant Christianity specifically, rather than Islam or some other God-centred faith. As to that, yes, I would say that that's because of how I was raised.
I'm the most intelligent person you've spoken to on the Net? Wow, you must have spoken to some real idiots if I'm the smartest one you've found. XD But seriously, thanks for that. You know I'm a narcissist, so that definitely helps.
Cereghini 8 months ago
@Cereghini When it comes to people on the internet, they either tend to be complete monologuists, haters, or you end up feeling like you were speaking with a nine year old. Some of these people just have no comprehension whatsoever. Others, you feel as if they're not even trying to understand, and they just want someone to fight with. I have met a few who I've managed to have intelligent conversations with; but none of them had your vocabulary, wit, or coherency. You shine above the rest.
MarianneBelrose 8 months ago
@MarianneBelrose
The one thing I don't like about YouTube is the fact that you don't know how old that hater is you just yelled at. Know what I mean? They could be freaking eight years old, and I'm not one to yell at kids. Judging by the kind of language they usually use, I'd say that they'd better damn well be older than that, but you never know.
AWW! Look how good you are at making me fall in love with myself even more! I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing, but it's working.
Cereghini 8 months ago
@Cereghini I know, it would be weird if I was arguing with a child who, in all actuality, was probably up past their bedtime. I try to be at least somewhat civil to everybody, although I fail often enough. I think it's strange that people come on places like this just to say stupid things. I've asked several of them,"What's the point?" They seem to find it genuinely funny that I would think there is a point to posting comments on YouTube.
MarianneBelrose 8 months ago
@MarianneBelrose
There is a point to posting. It's called socialization. And if they can't socialize in a mature and morally upright manner, they have no need to be here. I hate haters, and especially Mika haters. What could he have done to deserve it? He's just so freaking sweet! Aww, my darling little Mika-boo...♥♥♥
...Was that condescending/
Cereghini 8 months ago
@Cereghini In our society, we have socially acceptable patterns of behavior. We also have things that are socially unacceptable. Going up to someone simply to tell them you hate them, I would think, is unacceptable in a civilized society. But on the internet, it's almost as though all of those rules get flung out of the window. Mika gives us so many things. He brings joy to so many through his music and radiant personality. If anyone deserves to be immune to slander, it would be Mika. ♥ ♥ ♥
MarianneBelrose 8 months ago
@MarianneBelrose
Well yeah. Think about it in terms of real life. How would you like a complete stranger to come up to you, and just randomly say "I hate you" and then just walk away? Not the most socially acceptable behaviour, like you said. Besides, Mika is a gift to this world, and who in their right mind doesn't like gifts, eh?
Cereghini 8 months ago
@Cereghini Mika is one of the greatest gifts ever given to this earth. No one in their right mind could possibly find something wrong with his existence. People who take the time to troll on all of his videos, have to be taking the time to watch them, right? How is it, that after all the Mika videos they've watched, they're still not in love with him? XD
MarianneBelrose 8 months ago
@MarianneBelrose
I know. I think that they might just have a problem with his falsetto, because it sounds "gay" to the untrained ear. I am a singer myself though, and I think that the fact that he can go that high, seemingly without effort, is very impressive. As for his personality, it would be physically and logically impossible for me to hate him. He almost reminds me of myself, but accentuated to the highest degree possible. Like...if I'm a flashlight, he is the sun. You get the picture.
Cereghini 8 months ago
@Cereghini He sort of reminds me of myself too. I'm not a singer, but I grew up listening to opera. My mom was a complete opera fanatic. So maybe it just doesn't sound as odd to me as it would to some other people. But I just don't understand how people can think that he sounds gay. I know a lot of gay people, and many of them find it offensive that Mika is considered stereotypically gay. Some of them love Mika, but gay people still have unique personalities, and some people don't realize that.
MarianneBelrose 8 months ago
@MarianneBelrose
Everyone has a unique personality and their own opinion. The problem is that no one can like everyone else, and so conflict, envy, and ultimately hate, arise. But I like Mika, and I think that he would like me too, because I'm not some grovelling sycophant. Don't get me wrong: I basically worship the ground he walks on, but I'm smart enough not to stammer like a moron if I ever met him. I'd like to have a real conversation with him one of these days. God willing, that is.
Cereghini 8 months ago
@Cereghini I think that I could probably have an intelligent conversation with him. On the outside I would be all cool and collected, and probably say something like,"It's nice to meet you. I have been a fan of your work for years." But on the inside, I would be squealing like a little fan girl. If I ever did get to know him, fates be willing, I would want him to get to know the real me, not just the slightly psychotic side of me that plans trips across the ocean just to see him perform. XD
MarianneBelrose 8 months ago
@MarianneBelrose
I'd probably add a "sir" or two in there because I respect him so much, but I'd basically be doing the same thing. Spinning apart (in a good way) on the inside, and trying to keep it together on the outside. It's odd that a fan's love for their favourite artist can be three quarters fear and one quarter love and still call itself love, but I think that you and I are old enough to have our priorities straight. If I were to meet him, my first priority would be to talk to him.
Cereghini 8 months ago
@Cereghini Yes, my first priority would be to talk to him. I've lived long enough to know that you don't win esteem or affection from someone by being a sycophant. If anything, they get annoyed with you after awhile. When I was younger I would get these debilitating crushes. I was basically obsessed, but they never worked out, because I didn't do a good job of coming off as a level headed person. Over the years, I've acquired social skills. Ones I would put to use while talking with Mika.
MarianneBelrose 8 months ago
@MarianneBelrose
Exactly. You and I both know that no one likes a kiss-ass, and he's probably gotten the royal treatment from too many fangirls as it is. I think that it's necessary to remember that, even though he's an artist, even though he's young and energetic, even though he's built strong and tall, he's still a human being like the rest of us. I love him BECAUSE he's a human, as a matter of fact. If he were really the god he appeared to be, the differences between us would be too great.
Cereghini 8 months ago
@Cereghini Despite the fact that I think he is a beautiful human being whom I greatly admire, no relationship can be sustained on kiss-assery alone. There has to be understanding and compromise, even amongst people who are casual acquaintances. If the fates ever throw Mika and I together, I would be looking to build something a little stronger than a random fan encounter, all the while trying to make my plans as inconspicuous as possible. If he were a god, rather than a man, I wouldn't even try.
MarianneBelrose 8 months ago
@MarianneBelrose
I wouldn't be able to fall in love with a god, because trying to do that is just an easy way to develop an inferiority complex. But since Mika's human, it would be just a little bit easier. I don't think there would be any point in trying to be inconspicuous though, because he is pretty smart, so he'd probably catch on after a while. Besides, relationships have to kind of be a mutual thing, know what I mean? I'd probably try to give him a little kiss if I could though. XD
Cereghini 8 months ago
@Cereghini A kiss, eh? You are a brave one, aren't you? From what I've seen in interviews, he describes himself as shy, so we probably would have to be the ones to start the interaction. I suppose that we would have to take into consideration the circumstances under which we were meeting. If I just met him at a show, I probably wouldn't have time to really talk to him. I wonder where someone would find Mika. It's almost hard to imagine him going to places that normal people go.
MarianneBelrose 8 months ago
@MarianneBelrose
I'd like to think that I'm brave, but I know for a fact that I'm not as brave as Mika is. That's alright though, considering the fact that his level of bravery is basically super human. I'd like to just meet him randomly on the street, but since I don't live in England, that's unlikely, unless I go there and "accidentally" go to find him. XD I don't think I'd do that though, because I just don't have the courage to take that step. Yet. Give me a few years, and we'll see. LOL.
Cereghini 8 months ago
@Cereghini I don't think that I want to meet him so much that I would ever attempt to stalk him. I haven't properly stalked someone since I started High School. I swore off stalking people after that. I realized that it was more than a little creepy, when I stopped to think about it. He records in Los Angeles, though, doesn't he? That might be a bit more realistic turn of events for me. I go into Los Angeles from time to time. ;)
MarianneBelrose 8 months ago
@MarianneBelrose
Oh no, I would never stalk him. Like I siad, I respect him too much. Besides, I know that he's a man who likes his privacy, to a certain degree. But yeah, I've heard that he records in LA too, so for you at least, that might be a bit more realistic. That is, if you had the nerve to go and look for him. ;-)
Cereghini 8 months ago
@Cereghini Yeah, I definitely respect Mika, and the space around him. Because of that, I would never intentionally set out to just follow him around. However, in the event that I saw him out someplace, I might not have the nerve to go up to him, and end up just sort of following him around, which was basically what I did when I was younger. I like to believe, though, that I have matured a great deal in the past ten years, and have grown a spine in the process.
MarianneBelrose 8 months ago
@MarianneBelrose
Of COURSE you've matured since you were 16! Hell, even I've matured since then, and I'm only 20, so you've got six years of maturity on me. Wait, you ARE 26, right? I think I read that on your profile. You don't mind that I went and checked your profile out, do you?
Well, if I just saw him randomly, I'd just discreetly change course, and walk casually up to him and be like, "Oh my God! Mika! What a surprise!"
...Actually, I probably wouldn't have the nerve.
Cereghini 8 months ago
@Cereghini Yep, I'm twenty-six. Of course I don't mind you looking at my profile. That's what it's there for, right? I know that I've matured, but there are times when I still feel like that insecure sixteen year old version of myself. You know what I mean? If I were to come face to face with Mika, it's possible that I would revert to my old habit of running away from people I like. I do really well with people in real life, but Mika would probably be different. He is so special, after all.
MarianneBelrose 8 months ago
@MarianneBelrose
Exactly. We wouldn't bother creating these profiles if we didn't want people to look at them. I put a lot of effort into mine, but that was a while ago and I'm thinking about changing it.
Well, we can all be like that sometimes. It's called human insecurity, and it happens to the best of us. Hell, I'd bet even Mika is insecure sometimes.
Mika wouldn't give you any reason to run away. He's not a bad guy, you know. He's just really fiery, but that's what I love about him..
Cereghini 8 months ago
@Cereghini I know he wouldn't give me any reason to run off, but I'm rather good at creating my own reasons. I might even be so silly as to feel bad that I was imposing myself upon him. I wouldn't want to be bothering him. Up until a few years ago, I had the policy that I never spoke to someone unless they spoke to me first. My reasoning was that is someone wanted to speak to me, they would; but then I just ended up getting left out of a lot of things, and felt really lonely in the process.
MarianneBelrose 8 months ago
@MarianneBelrose
My friends don't think this is true, but I honestly think that I'm a bit of an introvert myself, so I know how you feel. Being lonely is never fun though, and so we all need someone around us every once in a while, just to keep us company. It's nice to have someone to talk to without having to type messages to them. Know what I mean?
Oh come on now, it's not like you'd be throwing yourself at him. Like I said, we're both smart enough and old enough not to do anything stupid.
Cereghini 8 months ago
@Cereghini I know what you mean. It really is nice to be able to have someone to go places with, and talk to on a regular basis. I'm really reserved around people I don't know; but once I get to know them, it's impossible for them to get me to stop talking. A friend of mine once said that talking to me was like opening Pandora's Box.
Yeah, I wouldn't do anything stupid, at least not intentionally. I won't be jumping out of bushes at him or anything like that.
MarianneBelrose 8 months ago
@MarianneBelrose
jumping out from behind bushes? I wouldn't do that to him if you payed me. I think you and I can both agree that that's creepy.
So...now that we're friends, you'll never shut up around me? XD I kid, but I also don't think that it's like opening Pandora's Box. That was a box full of all of the sins and hardships that ever had the chance to fall on mankind: illness, old age, hunger, poverty, war, famine, death. I think your talking is a little bit nicer than that. LOL.
Cereghini 8 months ago
@Cereghini Well, I've never jumped from out of a bush at someone. I am rather mischievous, though, and have been know to jump out of closets and from around corners and yell,"Gotcha!" and then run off giggling. That's only with people who I know pretty well, though.
Yeah, you're pretty much stuck with me now. I'll just go on and on forever. Sometimes when I'm talking, I think that all people around me can hear is *Wah wah Bacon wah wah wah Mika Wah Wah Ah*
MarianneBelrose 8 months ago
@MarianneBelrose
No, it's more like, "Blah blah blah Mika, blah blah blah WHEEEE blah blah blah I have a smart new friend."
Sorry, had to put that last part in. You know how I love to stroke my own ego. XD You know I'm only joking. I'm not THAT oblivious to what people say.
My brother used to do that kind of thing to me all the time. Nearly gave me a freaking heart attack more than once.
Hey, I don't mind being stuck with you. It's better than being stuck with a Mika hater. Much better.
Cereghini 8 months ago
@Cereghini I have been smacked upside the head more than once for my tom foolery. That just adds to the excitement of the hunt, though. I never know when my prey will strike back! I can be a bit of a clown sometimes. It's funny because people who are just getting to know me don't see that side of me right away. So the first time I do something silly, it always takes them by surprise.
I'm glad that I'm better than a Mika hater. If I was one of them, I wouldn't be able to live with myself.
MarianneBelrose 8 months ago
@MarianneBelrose
You ever think that maybe you deserved it? LOL.
You sound like quite the impressive little hunter though. I wouldn't want to play tag with you if that's the case. You any good at tag?
You're allowed to act crazy, just as long as you're not a Mika hater. Those people have no freaking souls. I talked to one last night who called me something pretty dirty. I hate people like that. Go and look at Rain if you feel like helping out, because I'm not the only one he's bothering.
Cereghini 8 months ago
@Cereghini Hmm, maybe I do deserve it. My tag skills are legendary. I am feared across the land. XD
Wow, I just went on Rain. That hater has a rather vulgar vocabulary. I responded to him, not that I expect to get through that thick skull.
MarianneBelrose 8 months ago
@MarianneBelrose
Hahaha, we all need a good smack upside the head every once in a while. Not too good for the equilibrium, though. I wonder if you could beat me at tag? You probably could, but not at hide and seek. I once hid in a closet from my brother for a good two hours. My parents had to come find me.
I have one word to describe that guy on Rain: uncouth. It's really annoying to have to deal with people like that, but I guess it can't be helped sometimes. God though, what a vocabulary!
Cereghini 8 months ago
@Cereghini I am terrible at hide and seek. I make to much noise. I get all nervous while I'm hiding and start giggling hysterically.
I think that someone who has to drag religion into an argument has already lost. If you can't find facts to substantiate your claim, either don't make it, or acknowledge that it is an opinion. The person on Rain needs to have their mouth washed out with soap.
MarianneBelrose 8 months ago
@MarianneBelrose
My mom used to brush our teeth with soap if we said something really bad. It's actually more effective than just sticking a bar of soap in your mouth. XD Eww.
I'm like a freaking ghost when I want to be. I'm small, so I don't make too much noise if I'm barefoot.
Some things about religion are facts, I think, but that's just me.
Cereghini 8 months ago
@Cereghini Yuck, that sounds terrible.
You sound like a formidable opponent, indeed.
I prefer to keep facts and faith as separate entities. I can be persuaded with facts. You are far less likely to convince me of anything if your only proof is a passage from the Bible. I much prefer a nice scientific study.
MarianneBelrose 8 months ago
@Cereghini If you're interested in seeing how many Atheists view religion, you could check out dawkinschannel, as well as richarddawkinsdotnet here on youtube. The first has a complete series of documentaries that originally aired in Britain, while the second has speeches. They deal mostly with religion, evolution, and things like that. I should warn you that I do have a tendency to exchange meaningless banter on certain videos. I don't mean for people to take it seriously.
MarianneBelrose 8 months ago
@Cereghini Their reasons varied from,"It is not ours to question why." to "Well, If Heaven is a place for God, why should he allow people to live there who don't follow his rules?" to "Unless you want to go to Hell, you better believe it." I didn't feel those answers were good enough. I still don't. The Bible is the foundation for the Christian belief, and after reading it, I just couldn't continue to be a part of the faith.
MarianneBelrose 8 months ago
@Cereghini When I was in school, I was taught creationism in science. For the greater part of my youth, I had basically said,"Well, if it's in a textbook, it must be true. Why would a textbook lie?" I learned later that the writers of the textbook had been extremely biased. They vilified evolution, using often untrue statements to 'show' why you should believe in the account found in the bible, rather than believe in evolution.
MarianneBelrose 8 months ago
@Cereghini As I got older, and went further out into the world, I found that the statements they made were either untrue, or were based mostly in opinion, rather than fact. Or if it was a fact, they twisted it for their own use.
MarianneBelrose 8 months ago
@Cereghini I suppose that the easiest way of saying it was that I had a rotten experience that caused me to shun organized religion. They made me feel like I had been lied to and used. It was this unyielding form of religion that caused my parents to turn their backs on me. The church preached of hellfire and damnation for homosexuals and skeptics.
MarianneBelrose 8 months ago
@MarianneBelrose
There are a lot of people who don't like organized religion for that very reason. Thing is, I don't think it's God's fault. People are always screwing up the real meaning of the Bible, and every other religious text known to man. I think that people as a whole can be pretty stupid when it comes to religion. We make it into what WE want it to be, which isn't always the most healthy approach. But in the end, the message of religion should be love. What else matters next to love?
Cereghini 8 months ago
@Cereghini I can definitely understand how people could get confused. Even I have only my limited understanding with which to comprehend its meaning. I value love among many things. I also value the truth, and the people who search for it. Kindness, but only the kind that is given when the person expects nothing in return. Since my experience, I have learned to look at everything with a critical eye. I like to see proof, and the Bible offers very little proof to substantiate its claims.
MarianneBelrose 8 months ago
@Cereghini I eventually came out to my parents, and though they never raised a hand to me. They never treated me the same afterwards. In the community we were living in at the time, I basically got black listed. People stopped talking to me, worried they would catch some sort of 'gay' virus. People told their children to watch out for me, because I was the work of the devil. It was not long after my coming out, that I moved away from home.
MarianneBelrose 8 months ago
@Cereghini My sister, who still lives at home, has recently realized that she is asexual. Though I seriously doubt that they will be as against her orientation as they are mine, I still worry about her. At least if they shut down on her, she still has me. Um... The end?
MarianneBelrose 8 months ago
Oh Mika, Mika! There is no question in my heart or mind that you will be in Heaven with the Father! There is nothing, too, that my little pen-pal here could say to make me doubt your worth. He may think that his life is worth more than mine, but I seriously doubt that he does anything more substantial with his time than I do.
And there you have me talking to the jerk without actually talking to the jerk. BAM!
Cereghini 8 months ago
I'm guessing that this is an earlier version of I see you. It's a shame I don't own this version too. @Cereghini You found yourself quite the pen-pal there, haven't you? His advice to you seems rather odd. He tells you to get a life, yet does he lead a life any more interesting or better than yours? I seriously doubt it.
MarianneBelrose 8 months ago
he is gay no bi
shussey100 9 months ago
@shussey100
Prove it.
Cereghini 9 months ago
@shussey100 "he is gay no bi". ok... what's your point?
thisiswolfmoon 8 months ago
they are so creepy just like the homo mika, most of his fans are trannies.
shussey100 9 months ago
@shussey100
I wonder why most of his fans are female? Oh yeah, because he's gorgeous, and women tend to have a thing for a guy that they know is good. You? Not so much. I wouldn't date you in a million years.
Cereghini 9 months ago
@shussey100 mika is a verry talented musician and he is 1000x better than any x factor musician and does it matter what his fans are (most are female) he has more fans than you!!!! why watch or bother about him if you don't like him??
HenryHates 8 months ago
yea that's right you're falling into into one stone hard 10 inch that has blasted you all night and gave you no walls. sick gay terrorist.
shussey100 9 months ago
@shussey100
Shut your mouth, hater filth. You have no business on any Mika video. You know that everyone on his videos hates you, and we have from the moment you began to bully him. You aren't making yourself look any bigger or better by preying on Mika, so go and find a victim who actually deserves your emnity. You are not an intelligent person I know, but there are ways in which you can make yourself look at least a little bit less stupid, and leaving him alone would be a good first step.
Cereghini 9 months ago
@Cereghini I have freedom of speech and I will use it.
shussey100 9 months ago
@shussey100
Of course you have freedom of speech, but that doesn't mean that anyone wants to hear you speak. You need to learn to discern between a situation in which it is proper to speak, and a situation in which it is not.
Cereghini 9 months ago
@Cereghini Fine that is settled. I will tell the whole world what he is a fake who hides his sexuality to prey his music on little girls while he get's shagged at night by his boyfriend. The same one i might add that had collapsed his anal walls.
shussey100 9 months ago
@shussey100
Why do you feel the need to be so incredibly rude? You're nothing but a child to me, even if you're older than I am. I don't know if you ARE older than me, but that's not relevant to me at this point. You're the one who is pretying, by the way. If you've read any of my comments to you, you'll know that I believe Mika to be entirely without fault when it comes to his music, and his personality isn't that far behind in that impression either. He's a good man. Why do you hate him?
Cereghini 9 months ago
@Theshofumiah1 @Cereghini
get a room.
rachelswanson119 9 months ago
@rachelswanson119 loooooooooooooooooool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Theshofumiah1 9 months ago
aawww i think its sweet of him to be bi so that no matter what all can be love even though its his pleasure and he not doing a favor for any one
troublelover442 9 months ago
get a life girl, ur such a typical girl. if you like mika tika hair, u might as well fall in love with all that busted band or dat new justin bieber crap. loool. theres more to life u know. where country u from....
Theshofumiah1 9 months ago
@Theshofumiah1
I think that those people who insult others for their loyalties are the ones who need to grow up and get a life, personally. If you can't maintain a polite tone with me, then I'm going to be a real bitch with you, and you don't want to see that. Trust me, you DON'T want to see that.
PS- I'm from Canada. How about you?
PPS- Justin Bieber is the bane of my existence. Him and Ke$ha. Ugh, HATE THEM!
PPPS- He might have pretty hair, but that's the least of what I love about him.
Cereghini 9 months ago
@Cereghini loooool, u had to say that twice!! No wonder, i was assuming ur not from the UK. We dont roll with that type of shit here. canada seems like a nice country, but its too much on the retired side for me, as im only 25. Im still on the Hype. Ur gone too old too early. loooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
Theshofumiah1 9 months ago
@Theshofumiah1
Oh yeah, I forgot that I already told you that. Hey man, I just got out of my first year of university about a week and a half ago. I'm allowed to be lazy and not go back and read old comments.
You're 25? Oh, no wonder you think I'm a baby. There's a big difference in life experience between the half-decades. I'll be 21 in August though, if you care.
Canada's population is aging, but only 4% of us are above the age of 84. We're actually still considered a young country.
Cereghini 9 months ago
@Cereghini Whos the daddy now!! sweet dreamz!!!!!!!!
Theshofumiah1 9 months ago
@Theshofumiah1
???
What the hell are you talking about? XD Is that an impression from a movie or something?
Cereghini 9 months ago
@Cereghini Why the fuck am I even talking to you about this ina mina dika behind a cyber optic screen. I dont even know you, what do I loose how I speak to you. get out more, go to sum bhangra nights clubbing or something than that mika piano shit. loooooooooooooooooool
Theshofumiah1 9 months ago
@Theshofumiah1
PS- I know you don't know me, and I'm MORE than happy that I don't know you, but I'm pretty sure that you're the one who started this whole conversation. I'm pretty sure, too, that if you're the one insulting me, I'm not the one who needs to get out more. Get a girlfriend or something, and THEN you'll learn how to talk to a woman.
PPS- I say girlfriend because I'm almost positive (judging by how you talk) that you're a guy. You ARE a guy, right?
Cereghini 9 months ago
@Cereghini No, im a bio sexual like mika
Theshofumiah1 9 months ago
@Theshofumiah1
You're bisexual? Cool, cool. You DO know (sorry if I sound condescending, but I'm just trying to make sure) that that means you're attracted to both genders, right? It doesn't mean that you have the sexual organs of both genders. That's transexual. Like I said, not trying to sound like a bitch. I'm just making sure that you have your tems right before you make a claim about yourself. Or about my Mika, for that matter.
Cereghini 9 months ago
@Cereghini what are you on about! I was being sarcastic. Ofcourse im a guy, and im not bio trans shit like ur mika. For fuck sake, go fuck him then
Theshofumiah1 9 months ago
@Theshofumiah1
Hey man, it's hard to pick up on sarcasm when you're not actually physically speaking to someone. I KNEW you were a guy though! I'm so smart. And pretty egotistical too, now that I think about it.
And I can't just go and have sex with the guy whenever I want to. For one thing, I live in Canada and he lives in England. For another, he's too old for me and he doesn't even know that I'm alive. Meh. It's a fact of life. Some guys are just unavailable, sadly.
Cereghini 9 months ago
@Cereghini fuck, how can you call that music, ur 23. unbelivable!!!! U might as well listen to opra shit.
Theshofumiah1 9 months ago
@Theshofumiah1
I'm 20, and if you were paying attention you would know that. And opera singers are actually pretty talented. I should know: one of them teaches me vocal (and piano), though I'm not an opera singer myself. My teacher is a wonderful singer and a REALLY nice guy.
Cereghini 9 months ago
@Cereghini are you for real!!!!!!!!!! Am I really having a converation with some opra singer lover. big deal good 4u.
Theshofumiah1 9 months ago
@Theshofumiah1
Good Lord, do you have a split personality? One second you're talking to me like a civilized human being, and the next you sound like a complete ass. Wait, are you the anger management guy? Like I siad, I'm too lazy at the moment to go back and read comments. If you're the anger management guy, then...I GUESS it's okay. Just try to remember that I'm not trying to be a bitch to you, 'kay?
Cereghini 9 months ago
@Cereghini yeh, sorry i have to work on my anger management techniques. But, I am frustrated with this mikas hair and songs. and ur driving me crazy. are you handicapped by the way
Theshofumiah1 9 months ago
@Cereghini loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool, i was born and bread in London England, and i have never heard of this guy, let alone know that he is from england, until u just told me! LMFAO!!!!!
Theshofumiah1 9 months ago
@Theshofumiah1
That's not your fault, or his. I've heard that London England is a MASSIVE city, and he's not even from London proper. Kensington, actually, and I'm not entirely positive where that is. I know that it's in and around London at least. Anyways, the only reason I know any of this is because I did my research. Not a big deal. Besides, he is a relatively new artist, only around since about 2005-2006, so not everyone is going to know as much about him as I do.
Cereghini 9 months ago
@Cereghini No silly, londons not as big as it seems. And if this guys from kensington, that means im proberbly 15 mins drive from him, as I live in the borough of Westminster! lol. If I ever bump into him I'll tell him about how crazy you are from him, and then slap him on his face for you tube sake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Theshofumiah1 9 months ago
@Theshofumiah1
Oh, are you really that close to him? Lucky you. If I could change places with you, even for a day, I'd do it without hesitation.
You'd tell him how crazy I am for him? Aww, thanks! Good luck pronouncing my name though. No one can pronounce my surname correctly the first time. But...if you were to strike him, I'd advise you not to be surprised if you found yourself on the ground two seconds later, wondering what the hell hit you. He'd FLOOR you, no question.
Cereghini 9 months ago
@Cereghini what is your name?
Theshofumiah1 9 months ago
@Theshofumiah1
Well, my surname is Cereghini. But give me your name and I'll give you mine. I don't like giving out my name on the Internet. Mind you, it's on my channel, so you could just go there and look.
Cereghini 9 months ago
@Cereghini Ok, Mrs mika cereghini, I prefer not going in to ur channel as I may have Mika nightmares. but thanks anyway
Theshofumiah1 9 months ago
@Theshofumiah1
Mika Cereghini? HAH! I WISH!
No, okay, let's be realistic here. He wouldn't marry me even if he could, because like I said, I'm too young for him. I'm turning 21 this year and he's turning 28, and I think 7 years might just be a bit too much.
You wouldn't have Mika related nightmares. Don't worry. It takes a long time of exposure to something before you can dream about it. I learned about dreams in psychology, and they're not so easily attained as all that.
PS- It's Lilly.
Cereghini 9 months ago
@Cereghini How are you mailing me, Im not as fluent as the new generation in using you tube and net. why didnt I get this msg in my inbox. and whos rachel, did you get a mail from her too.
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