@Shazbotben you could have done some research instead of making an almost 10 minute video about someone you don't even care for in the first place. Oh and flowers don't have nerve systems so how can they suffer? Wait, don't even answer, your stupidity is uncanny.
@00RomanVagabond00 If you'd been paying attention (which I know must be so difficult in between bouts of masturbating to The Smiths and watching my boring fucking face talk at you), you'd understand exactly what I meant. They don't have nerve systems but they do react to physical threats. I'd love to explain further, but I'd rather you just do "some research." Because that's helpful, isn't it?
@00RomanVagabond00 Also I give the disclaimer of my Morrissey ignorance within the first two minutes of the video. The point was if you had any relevant links or valuable input, you could've shared it. Instead, you just came here to call me boring and stupid (after presumably watching the rest of the video, as well as others, I gather). I don't know what you think we're gaining from that. Sorry for calling you a twat, but your negativity got to me.
W'ell I guess the mainstream media, is so keen to repeat that Norway incident over and over, because if you are in fear then it is easy to control you. And he was making a point like ok but how come they don't highlight what unethical companies like McDonalds do, And it's because goverment is taking cut of money. Goverment controls the media.
@SOUPRUN01 Which government, where? I'm afraid I don't understand what you're even really talking about anymore. It seems far removed from anything that Morrissey said. Are you implying the media focuses on mass murderers to distract the public from the shit they're eating? Are you implying the government is in some way perpetuating this? Is it a conspiracy? Who is benefiting? Is it possible that some problems are more the result of laziness and bumbling bureaucracy than insidious conspiracies?
@Shazbotben The rich the elite, the people who run news, media, McDonalds benefit. They benefit from having population confused. Like the Iraq thing which was about oil supplies. It's not far removed at all. The goverment are mass murderers. Look at Iraq. I'm guessing you watched Farenheit 911. The cost a South African pays to fly to UK is $120, but if you have UK passport, it costs $850. The cost of decent food is much too high.
@SOUPRUN01 The problem with Morrissey's statements is that he is oversimplifying a systemic failure. I'm not saying the government, the media, or the corporations are innocent, but to compare them to an individual person is far from apt. As I've said, and as you seem to understand, the problem goes well beyond McDonald's or KFC. His comparisons are inaccurate and do not benefit or contribute to the discussion. A broad generalization such as "the government are mass murderers" gets us nowhere.
@Shazbotben They will drop bombs on women and children if they have oil. Bush family got 14 billion off of Saudids etc. Do you expect them to care about health of poorer people who are not in fraternity Skull and Bones. They class them as barbarians. Supermarkets in this country make fruit expensive and cheap sugary salted foods cheap.
@SOUPRUN01 These are all very vaguely, partially connected problems that are all indicative of systemic failure. We're branching off into different issues that I can no longer discuss with any knowledgeable input. Governments, corporations, and the media should not be treated as individuals. While mass murderers might derive the content of their delusions from the same source as the aforementioned groups, they are a very different problem. Once more, Morrissey's comments obscure the issue.
Anyone who has seen Supersize me will know what Morrisey is talking about. But the papers in UK describe him as crackpot and degrade him. They also confuse issue by having vegetarians writing in and saying meat is murder, I agree with Morrisey. So Newspapers and McDonalds big corporations in bed together who do not care about young peoples arteries. Are clogging them up with chemical junk disguised as nutrition.
@SOUPRUN01 In the developed world, we understand the dangers of fatty foods. The only way this is any kind of argument is if you're talking specifically about lower income areas, where fast food provides convenience for families who are strapped for cash. Parents will opt for the greasier, less healthy choices because it is easier and faster. This is problematic, but the issue is far deeper than fast food chains (poverty and whatnot). Comparisons to mass murderers are unhelpful and inaccurate.
@SOUPRUN01 Yup. It was a good documentary. It doesn't help me understand Morrissey's comparisons between fast food and mass murderers, through. Maybe if human beings were completely incapable of thinking for themselves and making choices, he'd have a point. Maybe if the facts regarding the nutritional content of McDonald's were not widely and freely available, he'd have a point. Besides, right now the American media is all about sensationalizing the obesity epidemic. The corps are on their own.
@Shazbotben He is not talking about killing animals. He's talking about killing humans. With junk food. McDonalds is interested in profits and food with long shelf life. And they target kids. And the food are designed to be addictive. He was making point about it. I live in United Kingdom. And I was'nt talking about low income areas. I was talking about people. Being conditioned into eating junk. My friend said what has it got to do with Norway.
@SOUPRUN01 We're biologically inclined to desire fatty, sugary food. Our evolution has not yet caught up to the fact that we now have these things in abundance. No one "conditioned" us into eating junk. Our natural inclinations and desires are being exploited by marketing. Every industry does this to some degree. I know you weren't talking about low income areas, but I'm telling you those are the only places where this argument is even relevant. Low income = less choices.
Thanks for the work u put in to making this video, who cares animals die fuck em... i love Morrissey, i love Chicken Salad
burnley1966 5 months ago
@burnley1966 I love chicken salad as well! I do think there are legitimate reasons to avoid eating meat, but I find Morrissey's reasons to be poor.
Shazbotben 5 months ago
animals don't waist 10 minutes of my life with some shit...please die in blind asylum...
Luke77rat 5 months ago
@Luke77rat From your own 'About Me' section: I´m an openminded political and cultural interested person and enjoy everything live has to give.
Apparently, you don't enjoy everything.
Shazbotben 5 months ago
@Shazbotben point for you-you caught me off guard---i'm still not on your side but i respect that.
Luke77rat 5 months ago
Morrissey: relevant
You: not relevant but boring.
just to remind you of this simple fact.
00RomanVagabond00 5 months ago
@00RomanVagabond00 Sorry for boring you. Also sorry for disagreeing with a musician you happen to like.
Thanks for the enlightening, helpful, constructive comment, twat.
Shazbotben 5 months ago
@Shazbotben you could have done some research instead of making an almost 10 minute video about someone you don't even care for in the first place. Oh and flowers don't have nerve systems so how can they suffer? Wait, don't even answer, your stupidity is uncanny.
00RomanVagabond00 5 months ago
@00RomanVagabond00 If you'd been paying attention (which I know must be so difficult in between bouts of masturbating to The Smiths and watching my boring fucking face talk at you), you'd understand exactly what I meant. They don't have nerve systems but they do react to physical threats. I'd love to explain further, but I'd rather you just do "some research." Because that's helpful, isn't it?
Shazbotben 5 months ago
@00RomanVagabond00 Also I give the disclaimer of my Morrissey ignorance within the first two minutes of the video. The point was if you had any relevant links or valuable input, you could've shared it. Instead, you just came here to call me boring and stupid (after presumably watching the rest of the video, as well as others, I gather). I don't know what you think we're gaining from that. Sorry for calling you a twat, but your negativity got to me.
Shazbotben 5 months ago
W'ell I guess the mainstream media, is so keen to repeat that Norway incident over and over, because if you are in fear then it is easy to control you. And he was making a point like ok but how come they don't highlight what unethical companies like McDonalds do, And it's because goverment is taking cut of money. Goverment controls the media.
SOUPRUN01 6 months ago
@SOUPRUN01 Which government, where? I'm afraid I don't understand what you're even really talking about anymore. It seems far removed from anything that Morrissey said. Are you implying the media focuses on mass murderers to distract the public from the shit they're eating? Are you implying the government is in some way perpetuating this? Is it a conspiracy? Who is benefiting? Is it possible that some problems are more the result of laziness and bumbling bureaucracy than insidious conspiracies?
Shazbotben 6 months ago
@Shazbotben The rich the elite, the people who run news, media, McDonalds benefit. They benefit from having population confused. Like the Iraq thing which was about oil supplies. It's not far removed at all. The goverment are mass murderers. Look at Iraq. I'm guessing you watched Farenheit 911. The cost a South African pays to fly to UK is $120, but if you have UK passport, it costs $850. The cost of decent food is much too high.
SOUPRUN01 6 months ago
@SOUPRUN01 The problem with Morrissey's statements is that he is oversimplifying a systemic failure. I'm not saying the government, the media, or the corporations are innocent, but to compare them to an individual person is far from apt. As I've said, and as you seem to understand, the problem goes well beyond McDonald's or KFC. His comparisons are inaccurate and do not benefit or contribute to the discussion. A broad generalization such as "the government are mass murderers" gets us nowhere.
Shazbotben 6 months ago
@Shazbotben They will drop bombs on women and children if they have oil. Bush family got 14 billion off of Saudids etc. Do you expect them to care about health of poorer people who are not in fraternity Skull and Bones. They class them as barbarians. Supermarkets in this country make fruit expensive and cheap sugary salted foods cheap.
SOUPRUN01 6 months ago
@SOUPRUN01 These are all very vaguely, partially connected problems that are all indicative of systemic failure. We're branching off into different issues that I can no longer discuss with any knowledgeable input. Governments, corporations, and the media should not be treated as individuals. While mass murderers might derive the content of their delusions from the same source as the aforementioned groups, they are a very different problem. Once more, Morrissey's comments obscure the issue.
Shazbotben 6 months ago
@Shazbotben Thankyou for your time, it was nice to hear your opinion. Good day!
SOUPRUN01 6 months ago
@SOUPRUN01 Same to you buddy, thanks for commenting. Cheers!
Shazbotben 6 months ago
Love how you just throw it out there! How you feel that is ...
TheChangeVlog 6 months ago
2 Words: Food Chain
TheChangeVlog 6 months ago
Anyone who has seen Supersize me will know what Morrisey is talking about. But the papers in UK describe him as crackpot and degrade him. They also confuse issue by having vegetarians writing in and saying meat is murder, I agree with Morrisey. So Newspapers and McDonalds big corporations in bed together who do not care about young peoples arteries. Are clogging them up with chemical junk disguised as nutrition.
SOUPRUN01 6 months ago
@SOUPRUN01 In the developed world, we understand the dangers of fatty foods. The only way this is any kind of argument is if you're talking specifically about lower income areas, where fast food provides convenience for families who are strapped for cash. Parents will opt for the greasier, less healthy choices because it is easier and faster. This is problematic, but the issue is far deeper than fast food chains (poverty and whatnot). Comparisons to mass murderers are unhelpful and inaccurate.
Shazbotben 6 months ago
@Shazbotben Did you watch supersize me?
SOUPRUN01 6 months ago
@SOUPRUN01 Yup. It was a good documentary. It doesn't help me understand Morrissey's comparisons between fast food and mass murderers, through. Maybe if human beings were completely incapable of thinking for themselves and making choices, he'd have a point. Maybe if the facts regarding the nutritional content of McDonald's were not widely and freely available, he'd have a point. Besides, right now the American media is all about sensationalizing the obesity epidemic. The corps are on their own.
Shazbotben 6 months ago
@Shazbotben He is not talking about killing animals. He's talking about killing humans. With junk food. McDonalds is interested in profits and food with long shelf life. And they target kids. And the food are designed to be addictive. He was making point about it. I live in United Kingdom. And I was'nt talking about low income areas. I was talking about people. Being conditioned into eating junk. My friend said what has it got to do with Norway.
SOUPRUN01 6 months ago
@SOUPRUN01 We're biologically inclined to desire fatty, sugary food. Our evolution has not yet caught up to the fact that we now have these things in abundance. No one "conditioned" us into eating junk. Our natural inclinations and desires are being exploited by marketing. Every industry does this to some degree. I know you weren't talking about low income areas, but I'm telling you those are the only places where this argument is even relevant. Low income = less choices.
Shazbotben 6 months ago