i find it sad that how people are raised to belive in "god" because children do what they are told and belive what they are told and "god" is what they have learnt without any evidence at all. all what they belive in is what there perants told them was right. so when you think about it its very sad
So our closest relatives will just piss on their food to get it? Wow that's encouraging. It seems the orangutan has more to teach us then the more developed chimp then because it seems the more developed you are the less sense you seem to have. Or maybe this is a form of natural selection to thin out the herd. Don't know since I'm part of those stupid creationists that most of you seem to hate so much.
the non-human great apes are fascinating just like Mars is fascinating as it has similarities to our home Earth. There is much to learn and perhaps the proposal of future ethical questions on the basis we have the power to improve their lives so shouldn't we not? yet again we have issues in the human world to finish first but once most issues are overcome we should consider helping the chimps evolve but now we should certainly ban killing of chimps and protect them.
@deanmullen10 IU definitely agree with your last point. To kill (and in some cases to eat) creatures that have a significant degree of bodily self awareness like us is unecessarly cruel. Even if 'nature' is cruel we can choose not to be.
People dream of meeting 'aliens'. What they don't realise is that they are already here on earth and we are destroying them.
Nice experiments BUT , when the shimpanzee does the experiment with the red balls; he doesnt get any kind of infos or explanation instead of the kids . The kids would not do better, they don't assimiliate what to do with the apple.
We can actually learn a lot from the way the chimps solved the box puzzle. That girl was probably afraid of being 'chastised' for doing something 'wrong' if she didn't solve the puzzle her own way. We don't think for ourselves and blindly follow the leader because we don't want to be viewed as doing something 'wrong'. But that's how we learn, and we're stopping ourselves from thinking things through in favor of 'following the leader'. I'm going to think things through for myself from now on.
The last test about physics was dumb. The apes aren't told what to do but the children are told to try to knock the apple out. If the ape knew sign language and we told the ape to try to knock the apple out, it would understand what to do. If apes were educated like humans, they wouldn't even need to be told what to do.
@1SavageDragon1, in the documentary it's shown how chimps think for themselves instead of copying what their parents do. In contrast it is also shown how it's exactly the opposite with children. Knowing that and seeing how there is no reason what so ever to believe in a sky god, lets see some facts from you supporting your case instead of empty words.
Again you've just shown how foolish people could become. I do not believe in a sky God nor do I believe in evolution for that matter. Because I do not believe in evolution, I have to be religious right?
@1SavageDragon1, All this shows is that you haven't thought about how homo sapiens came to be on earth, or maybe you have and have a different hypothesis. That's fine, not everyone has to be interested in that and i'm not suggesting it, it's just most people either acknowledge that evolution is a fact in modern colloquial english or they are religious. I've never heard someone say they don't believe in either so i'm curious, how do you think homo sapiens came to be?
How does my comment show that I "haven't thought about how homo sapiens came to be on earth"? I'm agnostic. At least that's the view I stand on currently is that homo sapiens are here as the result of a designer.
It's preposterous to believe that full blown bio-organisms could form out of thin air. Not evolution I know, but, the theory leans on this factor. Not to mention the many chicken or the egg scenarios the TOE encounters when it comes to the evolution of certain organisms.
Well you've just cleared it up. You seem to be an agnostic deist then, seeing as you don't consider yourself apart of any religion but still think there is a designer based on the fact that you don't know how life got here while being in the position of stating that you don't know if any god exists.
You're right, evolution by natural selection doesn't say that, and it's not a reason to see evolution as fact, I mean honestly it's not hard to understand in the first place.
the only problem with the test is, they did it with children vs. adult chimps. an adult human would probably also go for the shortcut, so if they wanted to see the difference between human and chimp learning styles, they should have used a chimp of an equivalent age.
This test was done on nova with white and asian kids. Its not race, it's age. The answer was that young children assume adults do things the right way from the start and think it has to be that way, they follow instructions more directly and do not have the second guessing feeling that teens have.
"Jessica can now see that poking the stick in the top is pointless, yet....she sticks faithfully to what she's learned". And that is EXACTLY why you shouldn't teach religion to kids. Even though they might later see that the whole thing is unlogical and pointless, they still faithfully stick to it because that's what they have learned. If chimps were more intelligent they'd be better scientists than we are, cause they don't blindly follow, they just go straight at what they are interested in.
Are you kidding me about the last test? How do you spell BIASED? "[He] gets it right away." Yeah, if by right away you mean a women speaking to them in their native language giving them the solution and sharpening it to two choices, out of which the answer and means by which you can assume the answer are obvious, prior to the test, then yes, they solved it right away. Put those kids in there with the words "Get the apple" and we'll see how well they fare.
This shows VERY accurately the dangers we as a species can get into with our children if we teach them the wrong things. They will believe things blindly without thinking for themselves. This is how religion exploits people and the instinct of blind following from a young age.
If people interpret this as the kids COULDN'T FIGURE OUT they could just reach in, then I think that conclusion isn't warranted. If I think of myself as a kid (especially not knowing anything about the lady), I would have done what I was told because "I had to," or because "there might be a bigger reward later for kids who did what they were told," or...lot's of other social reasons. Chimps, I'm sure, had NO PRIOR EXPERIENCE with such social complexities when dealing with humans.
It's funny because I watched a tutorial video on how to do a complex task on my computer a couple of days ago.
Some of the steps were unnecessary for me since I had other tools to work with than the videomaker but I stuck to the description faithfully knowing at a conscious level that I could really skip ahead.
Looking back it's kinda like a superstition since I didn't want to mess my computer up, I took the precaution to follow the instructions exactly.
Perhaps our fundamental individualism is both a blessing and a curse. On one hand we are much more self-aware and wants desperately to be unique. On the other hand we are haunted by the obsession of wanting to be "perfect", a preconceived notion based on rules set by someone else, parents, teachers, peers etc. And we are made to believe that if we do not follow a set of rules closely, we will fail to be the person other people said we should be.
I believe that there is a human factor which the experiment did not control for and that is the human child's need for approval. The children may very well understand that they are performing actions which are unnecessary for retrieving the reward but having watched the adult show them in such a careful manner, they might think that they are expected to do the same. For the apes, only the end results matter, hence they take more direct action.
This isn't some deep truth about the human condition, the crazy foreign white lady with a camera crew told her to do something so she did it without question. I'm guessing the sampling was selective as well since the people would have volunteered an especially obedient child.
@Freetardo At 6:34 it shows our cousins (the great apes) Gorilla, Chimpanzee etc but they should be at the top of the tree as we are. The video suggests that we're more evolved than them, we're not!
Chimpanzees, Humans, Bonobos, Gorillas and Orangutans should be on different branches of the tree of life but at the same horizontal level.
Also, it says "humans and apes" throughout the video - Humans ARE apes!
Horner does not seem to take into account that children have been taught to be obedient to adults even when it makes no sense to the child to do so. Once she showed a child how the box worked, being obedient kids they would have followed the procedure she showed them. How many times have you heard a parent scolding a child by yelling "Because I said so, that's why!"? Children are taught to do things as the adult says to do it, even if it makes more sense to do it a different way.
@FUwogs "why are there NO inovative scientific african blacks? they seem to learn like chimps, sit back, watch and then give it a shot...."
Most people on earth, from whatever society, are NOT scientifically innovative. If you're not a scientist, you'll be as unable to make an i-pod out of scratch as would any "ignorant" African village dweller. But it's cultural and historical factors which led Africa to be where it's now, not biological. There were some things wrong their culture.
@firefumedale - Cutlures are the products of distinct people. If the African culture was behind, then that is a result of the African peoples natural ability to move forward. The mentality of the African was to stay simple minded, they didn't want to move forward because they prefered their simple lives the way it was before white invaders came along. The desire to move forward requires enthusiasm and creativity among the distinct people, otherwise change doesn't happen!
@LittleDirtyBlonde23 Your first sentence should more be like, "Distinct cultures are the product of people". Two individuals born of the same parents can develop two completely distinct cultures if they're never influenced by each other, their parents and their society. Differences in culture are mainly the result of differences in experiences for different groups of people. And it is through experience that people develop ideas about different things. And experiences can be really different!
That is completely false! Cultures are not built by just any people! Cultures are the products of geographic seperation and having to build something out of nothing. Culture building is ethnically born - one racial group, one religious group. People who can relate to other people by the same physical traits, behavioral characteristics and religious beliefs = the most successful and productive culture. Influence of other cultures can certainly inspire, but not create!
@firefumedale we are not innovative at all. our "innovativeness" is just evolution of tools designed to solve our problems and cater to our needs. necessity is the mother of all inventions.
@firefumedale: Plus you might also ask, are all of our inventions useful or necessarily improve our lives? Western society can claim responsibility for coming up with most modern innovations. Americans/Europeans might claim to have overall better quality of life, but plenty of Americans die prematurely due to Heart Disease, Cancer, poor diet, accidents due innovations such as cars, electric appliances. Many Americans die in their 50's or even 40's today.
@danpt2000 ...plenty of Americans die prematurely due to Heart Disease, Cancer, poor diet, accidents due innovations such as cars, electric appliances...
No, not all uses of technology are improvements. Mankind, if not restricted by commerce, politics and dogma could produce devices that are more efficient, safer, sustainable and even more beautiful by leaps and bounds. We already have the technology and resources to really improve life. Science doesn't kill people, bad ideas do.
@rovrola And when I say "improve life" I don't mean putting a screen and a chip on every fucking thing. The point of technology shouldn't be to "pimp my planet"!
@firefumedale There were nothing wrong with their culture.... They were just isolated in their inviroment and did not trade knowledge with other cultures, like the europeans did (with the asians, the egipcians, the arabs)....If we could back in time and put all the europeans in a very isolated continent apart from everything, they would be in the stone age as well...
In the weight and gravity test they screwed up and informed and told the human child "Now which ball do you use?" The human child received that hint to think about the ball. The chimp as just given it and had to go with it. Let's see what happens when they administer the test correctly.
I see a serious hole in this experiment. That hole is the fact that you're doing this with CHILDREN and children imitate EVERYTHING. I highly doubt that a human ADULT would've felt he had to poke the stick through the top...
@123Atheist I don't believe I have.I understand the point they are trying to make in this experiment. My point is that their point is incorrect and should be subject to a higher degree of control to back up the integrity of their scientific conclusions. The hole in this experiment is that they are comparing the learning patterns of chimpanzee ADULTS with human CHILDREN. For a more reliable conclusion, one should've compared Chimp children with Human children or chimp adults with human adults...
...since there are considerable differences btw adult and human learning patterns. This experiment, by comparing Chimp ADULTS with human CHILDREN lacks a "Control" which is a necessary component of the scientific method. Therefore, it's findings (namely that an example of a difference btw chimp and human learning patterns is shown in a greater human affinity toward "following" or "Imitating") are greatly lacking in SCIENTIFIC INTEGRITY and, I find to be, JUST PLAIN WRONG bc...
...ANYONE who has been around a small child knows that IMITATION IS A DEFINING CHARACTERISTIC OF CHILD LEARNING BEHAVIOR. So in order to isolate human CHILD learning behavior from human ADULT learning behavior (and thus learn more about HUMAN LEARNING BEHAVIOR, which was the intent of this experiment) one should've imposed a greater control by making both animals adults or both animals children. Until then the results of this experiment lack scientific integrity and thus have dubious veracity
@themoviekidownz What sort of education are you talking about? They learn how to sing, dance and other communal essential values... Isn't it education?
well, ive heard that people in greater economically developed countries (not third world countries) that the children can have better logic, its pretty simple. i do think that they should test this experiment on a larger scale of multi national children.
Maybe Jessica, the subject of the experiment, faithfully repeated the actions, only because of the experimenter's presence. If she had been left alone free from approval, might she have tried a few alternatives?
to me this shows we have lost our ability to think independently of authority; opening the way for religious leaders and capitalists to manipulate us. i think the trick is when its necessary to copy go ahead and copy when its not, do it your own way. just like my cousin chimp demonstrated on this clip.
Id be curious about any biast in the study. What exactly are the instructions Dr. Horn gives. It could be the children are simply reacting to an appeal to authority and perform the steps even though they know they're not needed to get the reward
What is up with all the hate on this page? This video is NOT about theists vs. atheists and does not mention anytime that God doesn't exist. Evolution does not say ANYTHING about how life began. If you think I'm wrong, look it up in any biological anthropology textbook. In fact, nobody is sure of how life began.
If you guys are so smart and knowledgeable, then you would know that only ignorant people don't know how to respect other's opinions.
I also wonder if Chimps were compared to humans would we see a mixed line of inteligence from bottom to top?
Do chimps say "that is stupid" without knowing anything about it?
If chimps had a choice to be come human, how many would want to? I know I would rather live in a natural world in a natural way... I would choose being a chimp....
Being 16 Id probably do all the steps with the box anyway. Id rather do something unnecessary and get my treat than try a shortcut and have a possibility of getting it wrong. heck they cloud of put some crazy sensors in that wretched box that don't give me the sticker if I don't do all the steps. Chimps are better at taking an calculating risks I think.
@3xAwesome3x ide do all the steps to but simply bcuz of what u said as well they could have put some sort of sensor dat made the box collapse or lock if i didnt tap it i too rather get it 100% right than risk fuckin it up now if they would have told me to get it the fastest way possible than that would have been a different story =)
@frykitty37 I think the physics test was even worse. They asked the children what ball would make the green or yellow ball fall down. The chimps are just given rewards for doing the right thing, but are not even communicated to what they are trying to do. They should have instead put like an apple instead of another ball, that way there would be more incentive to get the right heavier ball down the ramp sooner.
@aVeryIntelligentDog actually I think the importance of playing games in mammals like these kids is at least as important as the immediate food, because with games we learn and explore how to survive, get more food, get a future, and keep a good mood.
The humans probably copy it because they think there's some sort of trick going on that they can't see. That's why I would have done it when I was a kid.
The chimp doesn't even think about why the tester might be doing those extra actions.
@GuacamoleKun If I was that little kid, I would have thought "If I don't do the first bits, the woman will see I cheated and she'll take the sticker back"
Wait a minute, this documentary shows us how humans blindly follow directions without questioning them where as primates far exceed our ability at re-evaluating and improving on what they've learned by observing and using logic...
But then they quickly tell us that this is a good thing??!! WTF?
This basically shows us how successfully we have been trained to conform to the system without thinking for ourselves. This explains our enslavement under things like Monarchy, the FED, gov and religion.
This experiment might as well have showed how religions developed! Blindly following what was taught, even though the person MIGHT see that it's absolutely pointless!
Seems to me that evolution is still taking place on within our species. More and more people are starting to ask questions and not simply follow what they have been taught from their childhood!
To follow is a good thing to a point, especially for young kids, and it does keep order. But BLIND following is counterproductive!
@1loydster It does nonetheless also explain the issues listed by the lady, so it is not quite bad either.
It's all a matter of how much really, and it's sadly too much for people who happen to have been born into an intellectually unfavourable culture, so to say.
So what if the earth is round and not flat? Who gives? If we didn't care about such things, it would not matter. We would just live. This is what the chimp does, just live and be content with just that. But humans do not want to just live. We want to explore and understand the world we live in and the world beyond. Chimps have no need for such knowledge and are not interested.
One big difference is our need and yearning for knowledge. We are more curious. Humans want to know about everything from space, to how micro-organisms reproduce to what lies at the bottom of the ocean. Why does space matter? Why should we learn about Jupiter or Neptune or galaxies far far away? Why do we even need to know about our own galaxy? These things does not affect us. Why learn about how we evolved. Why care about the speed of light? Why bother to experiment with nanotech?
There is a fault in the box trials. Did she give them the black box again to see if they'd follow all of that again? I'm saying consecutively. The chimp might automatically go right for it since it found what it wanted.
if the chimp remebers from 4 years it shows it could long term plan because it has a memory of long events there was no test though so the documentery makers assume no
same with the cultures we dont know how many ape cultures there are so we can't sya there are only a few
Funny how it took until Galileo to overturn Aristotle's notion that heavier objects fall faster. It seems like at least some of our notions of physics at least not innate.
This test reveals something startling. Children who are raised to believe in predetermined disposition in terms of philosophical beliefs and values would be less likely to investigate a greater solution to themselves and their society than a Chimpanzee! So that means that a Chimpanzee is most likely to investigate, reevaluate and even develop novel solutions to a challenge than human children who would continue to faithfully follow their parents and / or cultural mentors without question.
@VerseInfinitum Although I gave this a thumbs up and agree with you, I don't think it's necessary to evoke beliefs and values. I think it's much more fundamental than that. But that understanding, either way, does make great implications to how we function in societies. It's rather interesting that comfort from imagined or real certainties about a function can really enliven a persons convictions. Life is quite strange.
@VerseInfinitum I like how all these darwin groupies mindlessly spout their talking points like odedient non-thinking sheeple. Have ALL these darwin sheep people done ALL these experiments themselves? NO! Have they empircally SEEN a austriopithicus evolve to homosapiens??? NO! All they can do is to point to some 'authority' like a high priest of 'science' like Asimov,Gould,Sagan,etc. A Free Thinker like myself knows this video is crap!
@kdc43 Although no single researcher has performed all of these experiments, however a coalition of institutes, universities and expeditions over the course of centuries have placed many discovered clues and continue to this day to synthesize all available data and established an applicable theory. Although new discoveries such as Ardi will continue to shape and reshape our understanding of human origins, science has proven to be the best means we've made to understand ourselves.
@VerseInfinitum This is indeed amazing. This test proves something extremely important about the truth of human psychology and learning. It's a shocking thing really, shocking that we as humans can be so reliant on our teachers that we follow them faithfully and without question. At least for children that is, but sometimes that's all that is required to shape one's life.
@VerseInfinitum but passing down knowledge from generation to generation by direct instruction is what made us survive and thrive, such as agriculture, making fire, hunting and so on, the chimps are learning like how a child looks over a classmates shoulder for the right answer to the test, there are probably a great many astounding chimp tools and techniques that have been lost over time because they do nothing more than copy each other and end up starting from scratch every few decades
The kids were afraid to disappoint their teacher, so they did everything exactly like she had shown them before. The apes are only thinking about the food.
exactly...for the kids, the expected behaviour(the correct behaviour) is to copy the teacher, and the reward for the kids is to complete the action sequence requested by their superior, the kids did exactly that. for the chimps its the reward that matters, they don't care about what the human expects of them.
@sin331 So true, children are doing what the superior expects. However, I dont only see this behavior in children; I see it with some adults as well. Look at how many people do things a certain way because that is the way they have always done it, they often refuse to even look at things from another point of view, even when the other way of performing a task is more efficient or logical.
@HomoGnosticus - I think that is sort of what they were saying. We copy everything exactly as shown, whereas a chimp notices the true solution more quickly. And, consequently, feels no qualms about disappointing the teacher.
The apple experiment was not a legit test for what they were testing for. The children were given more instruction than the apes. The first kid specifically was directly told "Which ball do you need to use to knock the apple out of place." The ape may not have known how the contraption works in the first place, and didn't realize it was a matter of "knocking" that apple out of place.
VERY interesting to see the difference in "judgement" about heavier vs lighter balls--when there was much LESS difference in the previous examples they've been showing us.
I think it is what makes humans different. The sole purpose of our actions do not revolve around only "treats", but, if any, the steps we are taught for whatever purpose, which would may be much greater than solely satisfying our hunger (not even). This is how art comes about, this is how anything greater than hunting and gathering come about.
Narrator: "So, it seems, blindly copying isn't so stupid afterall."
Correct! It is utterly wasteful and absurd.
The intelligent animal moves directly on purpose, immediately identifies the useful purpose, and wastes no time ruining the environment for its peers and progeny.
Human beings have a gift for resisting responsibility for the most useful conceivable purpose. Maybe we'll catch on one day?
When the child does the task the woman made him look at the 2 balls and said 'which ball will knock it down?' - making the child think about it and make a conscious choice.
well they should point out in the video that human children are smart enough to speak in words while adult apes still just scream and moan seemingly incoherently, further proof that humans are smarter!
Interestingly though apes can learn to hear words, but cannot audibly speak them. But then again so can dogs.
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When the narrator describes how "intelligent" we are over the chimps, he forgets to mention our impact on Mother Earth.
abacusTMe 1 day ago
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abacusTMe 3 days ago
ricky ponting is a fine example of chimps working alongside humans.
yasirjam1 4 days ago
flawed experiment. She took children and compared it to a full grown chimp. Children's brain are still in development.
Killior751 1 month ago
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aklan89 2 months ago
i find it sad that how people are raised to belive in "god" because children do what they are told and belive what they are told and "god" is what they have learnt without any evidence at all. all what they belive in is what there perants told them was right. so when you think about it its very sad
Th3Australian1 3 months ago 2
So our closest relatives will just piss on their food to get it? Wow that's encouraging. It seems the orangutan has more to teach us then the more developed chimp then because it seems the more developed you are the less sense you seem to have. Or maybe this is a form of natural selection to thin out the herd. Don't know since I'm part of those stupid creationists that most of you seem to hate so much.
pdxeddie1111 3 months ago
6:08 is the American flag waving??!!
smssuper 3 months ago
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9:24 Clever girl!
mfcmaddog 4 months ago
9:25 Clever girl!
mfcmaddog 4 months ago
the non-human great apes are fascinating just like Mars is fascinating as it has similarities to our home Earth. There is much to learn and perhaps the proposal of future ethical questions on the basis we have the power to improve their lives so shouldn't we not? yet again we have issues in the human world to finish first but once most issues are overcome we should consider helping the chimps evolve but now we should certainly ban killing of chimps and protect them.
deanmullen10 4 months ago
@deanmullen10 IU definitely agree with your last point. To kill (and in some cases to eat) creatures that have a significant degree of bodily self awareness like us is unecessarly cruel. Even if 'nature' is cruel we can choose not to be.
People dream of meeting 'aliens'. What they don't realise is that they are already here on earth and we are destroying them.
Schizopantheist 3 months ago
"So it seems blindly copying is not so stupid after all" - Is the narrator making excuses for human shortcomings?
danpt2000 4 months ago
Hang on, the kids were prompted my language when she asked "which ball would be better".
angellicvoices 5 months ago
Apes are much kinder. They dont lock humans up and do tests on us, like we do to them.
angellicvoices 5 months ago
Nice experiments BUT , when the shimpanzee does the experiment with the red balls; he doesnt get any kind of infos or explanation instead of the kids . The kids would not do better, they don't assimiliate what to do with the apple.
nicegabiboy 5 months ago
We can actually learn a lot from the way the chimps solved the box puzzle. That girl was probably afraid of being 'chastised' for doing something 'wrong' if she didn't solve the puzzle her own way. We don't think for ourselves and blindly follow the leader because we don't want to be viewed as doing something 'wrong'. But that's how we learn, and we're stopping ourselves from thinking things through in favor of 'following the leader'. I'm going to think things through for myself from now on.
Poncho151500 5 months ago
would the girls actions change if she didn't think anyone was watching her?....
rassclaat23 5 months ago
I appreciate the upload!
timboslice001 6 months ago
lol the chimp was like "what a mug making me go the long way!" lol
bobolishas 6 months ago
The last test about physics was dumb. The apes aren't told what to do but the children are told to try to knock the apple out. If the ape knew sign language and we told the ape to try to knock the apple out, it would understand what to do. If apes were educated like humans, they wouldn't even need to be told what to do.
DeliciousTalk 6 months ago 2
@DeliciousTalk
you are 100% right. me and my husband were just talking about that very same thing!
candy18869 5 months ago
@candy18869 Glad I'm not the only one who noticed that :)
DeliciousTalk 5 months ago
I wonder if kids on the autism spectrum would have gone straight for the reward instead of going through the routine.
InYourFaceNewYorker 6 months ago
i think theses kids think its game so that they stick to the rules .
mideastatheist 7 months ago 4
@mideastatheist true
JackyRBKwan 7 months ago
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mideastatheist 7 months ago
wait is her accents half american half british?????
TheEpicPunk 7 months ago
The box test reminds me of how people blindly follow religion.
hendrix5045 7 months ago 49
@hendrix5045
Your comment reminds me of how foolish people could be.
1SavageDragon1 5 months ago
@1SavageDragon1, in the documentary it's shown how chimps think for themselves instead of copying what their parents do. In contrast it is also shown how it's exactly the opposite with children. Knowing that and seeing how there is no reason what so ever to believe in a sky god, lets see some facts from you supporting your case instead of empty words.
hendrix5045 5 months ago
@hendrix5045
Again you've just shown how foolish people could become. I do not believe in a sky God nor do I believe in evolution for that matter. Because I do not believe in evolution, I have to be religious right?
1SavageDragon1 5 months ago
@1SavageDragon1, All this shows is that you haven't thought about how homo sapiens came to be on earth, or maybe you have and have a different hypothesis. That's fine, not everyone has to be interested in that and i'm not suggesting it, it's just most people either acknowledge that evolution is a fact in modern colloquial english or they are religious. I've never heard someone say they don't believe in either so i'm curious, how do you think homo sapiens came to be?
hendrix5045 5 months ago
@hendrix5045
How does my comment show that I "haven't thought about how homo sapiens came to be on earth"? I'm agnostic. At least that's the view I stand on currently is that homo sapiens are here as the result of a designer.
It's preposterous to believe that full blown bio-organisms could form out of thin air. Not evolution I know, but, the theory leans on this factor. Not to mention the many chicken or the egg scenarios the TOE encounters when it comes to the evolution of certain organisms.
1SavageDragon1 5 months ago
@1SavageDragon1,
Well you've just cleared it up. You seem to be an agnostic deist then, seeing as you don't consider yourself apart of any religion but still think there is a designer based on the fact that you don't know how life got here while being in the position of stating that you don't know if any god exists.
You're right, evolution by natural selection doesn't say that, and it's not a reason to see evolution as fact, I mean honestly it's not hard to understand in the first place.
hendrix5045 5 months ago
@hendrix5045 well i would say it reminds me of ignorant people in general regardless having a religious view or not..
Greev84 4 months ago
@Greev84, I completely agree with that.
hendrix5045 4 months ago
the only problem with the test is, they did it with children vs. adult chimps. an adult human would probably also go for the shortcut, so if they wanted to see the difference between human and chimp learning styles, they should have used a chimp of an equivalent age.
ultrafly100 7 months ago 2
This test was done on nova with white and asian kids. Its not race, it's age. The answer was that young children assume adults do things the right way from the start and think it has to be that way, they follow instructions more directly and do not have the second guessing feeling that teens have.
hotwhire 8 months ago
"Jessica can now see that poking the stick in the top is pointless, yet....she sticks faithfully to what she's learned". And that is EXACTLY why you shouldn't teach religion to kids. Even though they might later see that the whole thing is unlogical and pointless, they still faithfully stick to it because that's what they have learned. If chimps were more intelligent they'd be better scientists than we are, cause they don't blindly follow, they just go straight at what they are interested in.
itsnotfreedom 8 months ago 5
Are you kidding me about the last test? How do you spell BIASED? "[He] gets it right away." Yeah, if by right away you mean a women speaking to them in their native language giving them the solution and sharpening it to two choices, out of which the answer and means by which you can assume the answer are obvious, prior to the test, then yes, they solved it right away. Put those kids in there with the words "Get the apple" and we'll see how well they fare.
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marekiller8 8 months ago
This shows VERY accurately the dangers we as a species can get into with our children if we teach them the wrong things. They will believe things blindly without thinking for themselves. This is how religion exploits people and the instinct of blind following from a young age.
Dalamen 8 months ago 15
'Pretend nonsense actions'
*Atheist chuckle*
BlckSbthMan 10 months ago 4
If people interpret this as the kids COULDN'T FIGURE OUT they could just reach in, then I think that conclusion isn't warranted. If I think of myself as a kid (especially not knowing anything about the lady), I would have done what I was told because "I had to," or because "there might be a bigger reward later for kids who did what they were told," or...lot's of other social reasons. Chimps, I'm sure, had NO PRIOR EXPERIENCE with such social complexities when dealing with humans.
GetMeThere1 11 months ago 4
@GetMeThere1 My thoughts exactly!
Pahjx 7 months ago
It's funny because I watched a tutorial video on how to do a complex task on my computer a couple of days ago.
Some of the steps were unnecessary for me since I had other tools to work with than the videomaker but I stuck to the description faithfully knowing at a conscious level that I could really skip ahead.
Looking back it's kinda like a superstition since I didn't want to mess my computer up, I took the precaution to follow the instructions exactly.
HerrKnitler 1 year ago
@HerrKnitler I also did this when I needed to enhance quality in my videos.
treasuredroperX 11 months ago
Perhaps our fundamental individualism is both a blessing and a curse. On one hand we are much more self-aware and wants desperately to be unique. On the other hand we are haunted by the obsession of wanting to be "perfect", a preconceived notion based on rules set by someone else, parents, teachers, peers etc. And we are made to believe that if we do not follow a set of rules closely, we will fail to be the person other people said we should be.
eceprincess 1 year ago
I believe that there is a human factor which the experiment did not control for and that is the human child's need for approval. The children may very well understand that they are performing actions which are unnecessary for retrieving the reward but having watched the adult show them in such a careful manner, they might think that they are expected to do the same. For the apes, only the end results matter, hence they take more direct action.
mabelgml 1 year ago 2
@mabelgml I second that
Ninja9191 11 months ago
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Exactly. Psychological/behavioural experiments are SUCH bullshit..!! Such bullshit. Absolute bullshit.
SubtleChaotic 9 months ago
@VanillaSugar121 Or on the other side of the coin, once we're mature, there's limitless potential for destruction and belittlement of society ;)
TrueMusou 1 year ago
Apes disappointed me that they failed Physics. Damn have some respect to science and that you'll go through the space.
In science we trust !
kabuCee 1 year ago
This isn't some deep truth about the human condition, the crazy foreign white lady with a camera crew told her to do something so she did it without question. I'm guessing the sampling was selective as well since the people would have volunteered an especially obedient child.
underpantsjihad 1 year ago
6:20 Why does it show humans to be at the top of the evolutionary tree of life? Everything alive today should be on a horizontal line at the top.
BEAST636 1 year ago 2
@BEAST636 because we are the latest in the tree of life in the ape tree
Freetardo 1 year ago
@Freetardo At 6:34 it shows our cousins (the great apes) Gorilla, Chimpanzee etc but they should be at the top of the tree as we are. The video suggests that we're more evolved than them, we're not!
Chimpanzees, Humans, Bonobos, Gorillas and Orangutans should be on different branches of the tree of life but at the same horizontal level.
Also, it says "humans and apes" throughout the video - Humans ARE apes!
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What the fuck???? Since when have humans been "top of the tree"? Everything alive today is at the top of the tree! 6:26
The top of the 'tree of life' should show a perfectly flat horizontal line.
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BEAST636 1 year ago
Horner does not seem to take into account that children have been taught to be obedient to adults even when it makes no sense to the child to do so. Once she showed a child how the box worked, being obedient kids they would have followed the procedure she showed them. How many times have you heard a parent scolding a child by yelling "Because I said so, that's why!"? Children are taught to do things as the adult says to do it, even if it makes more sense to do it a different way.
elsiebea 1 year ago 2
why are there NO inovative scientific african blacks? they seem to learn like chimps, sit back, watch and then give it a shot....
FUwogs 1 year ago
@FUwogs "why are there NO inovative scientific african blacks? they seem to learn like chimps, sit back, watch and then give it a shot...."
Most people on earth, from whatever society, are NOT scientifically innovative. If you're not a scientist, you'll be as unable to make an i-pod out of scratch as would any "ignorant" African village dweller. But it's cultural and historical factors which led Africa to be where it's now, not biological. There were some things wrong their culture.
firefumedale 1 year ago 26
@firefumedale at last!! someone whit a brain in youtube!!!
crusifixa 8 months ago
@firefumedale - Cutlures are the products of distinct people. If the African culture was behind, then that is a result of the African peoples natural ability to move forward. The mentality of the African was to stay simple minded, they didn't want to move forward because they prefered their simple lives the way it was before white invaders came along. The desire to move forward requires enthusiasm and creativity among the distinct people, otherwise change doesn't happen!
LittleDirtyBlonde23 6 months ago
@LittleDirtyBlonde23 Your first sentence should more be like, "Distinct cultures are the product of people". Two individuals born of the same parents can develop two completely distinct cultures if they're never influenced by each other, their parents and their society. Differences in culture are mainly the result of differences in experiences for different groups of people. And it is through experience that people develop ideas about different things. And experiences can be really different!
firefumedale 6 months ago
That is completely false! Cultures are not built by just any people! Cultures are the products of geographic seperation and having to build something out of nothing. Culture building is ethnically born - one racial group, one religious group. People who can relate to other people by the same physical traits, behavioral characteristics and religious beliefs = the most successful and productive culture. Influence of other cultures can certainly inspire, but not create!
LittleDirtyBlonde23 6 months ago
@firefumedale we are not innovative at all. our "innovativeness" is just evolution of tools designed to solve our problems and cater to our needs. necessity is the mother of all inventions.
jobjed 6 months ago
@firefumedale: Plus you might also ask, are all of our inventions useful or necessarily improve our lives? Western society can claim responsibility for coming up with most modern innovations. Americans/Europeans might claim to have overall better quality of life, but plenty of Americans die prematurely due to Heart Disease, Cancer, poor diet, accidents due innovations such as cars, electric appliances. Many Americans die in their 50's or even 40's today.
danpt2000 5 months ago
@danpt2000 ...plenty of Americans die prematurely due to Heart Disease, Cancer, poor diet, accidents due innovations such as cars, electric appliances...
No, not all uses of technology are improvements. Mankind, if not restricted by commerce, politics and dogma could produce devices that are more efficient, safer, sustainable and even more beautiful by leaps and bounds. We already have the technology and resources to really improve life. Science doesn't kill people, bad ideas do.
rovrola 3 months ago
@rovrola And when I say "improve life" I don't mean putting a screen and a chip on every fucking thing. The point of technology shouldn't be to "pimp my planet"!
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@firefumedale There were nothing wrong with their culture.... They were just isolated in their inviroment and did not trade knowledge with other cultures, like the europeans did (with the asians, the egipcians, the arabs)....If we could back in time and put all the europeans in a very isolated continent apart from everything, they would be in the stone age as well...
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@FUwogs
'why are there NO inovative scientific african blacks? they seem to learn like chimps, sit back, watch and then give it a shot....'
why didn't you stop breathing in your sleep you bigot! The traffic light was created by a black man!
purpleTqueen 5 months ago
@FUwogs on the flipside.. following authority mindlessly is what fosters innovativeness? Yeah, real smart observation.
rovrola 3 months ago
In the weight and gravity test they screwed up and informed and told the human child "Now which ball do you use?" The human child received that hint to think about the ball. The chimp as just given it and had to go with it. Let's see what happens when they administer the test correctly.
PawPants 1 year ago 3
I see a serious hole in this experiment. That hole is the fact that you're doing this with CHILDREN and children imitate EVERYTHING. I highly doubt that a human ADULT would've felt he had to poke the stick through the top...
Athanatos2727 1 year ago
@Athanatos2727 I think you may have missed the point.
123Atheist 1 year ago
@123Atheist I don't believe I have.I understand the point they are trying to make in this experiment. My point is that their point is incorrect and should be subject to a higher degree of control to back up the integrity of their scientific conclusions. The hole in this experiment is that they are comparing the learning patterns of chimpanzee ADULTS with human CHILDREN. For a more reliable conclusion, one should've compared Chimp children with Human children or chimp adults with human adults...
Athanatos2727 1 year ago
...since there are considerable differences btw adult and human learning patterns. This experiment, by comparing Chimp ADULTS with human CHILDREN lacks a "Control" which is a necessary component of the scientific method. Therefore, it's findings (namely that an example of a difference btw chimp and human learning patterns is shown in a greater human affinity toward "following" or "Imitating") are greatly lacking in SCIENTIFIC INTEGRITY and, I find to be, JUST PLAIN WRONG bc...
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Athanatos2727 1 year ago
...ANYONE who has been around a small child knows that IMITATION IS A DEFINING CHARACTERISTIC OF CHILD LEARNING BEHAVIOR. So in order to isolate human CHILD learning behavior from human ADULT learning behavior (and thus learn more about HUMAN LEARNING BEHAVIOR, which was the intent of this experiment) one should've imposed a greater control by making both animals adults or both animals children. Until then the results of this experiment lack scientific integrity and thus have dubious veracity
Athanatos2727 1 year ago 2
"Billy greets her like a long lost friend". Nah, Billy just thinks she's funny looking.
KenMacMillan 1 year ago
So it looks like it's human see, human do.
bigboy45454545 1 year ago
I love chimps :)
mxixlxexy 1 year ago
why doesn't Jessica use British or American children? because not being racist, but aren't African country children less educated?
themoviekidownz 1 year ago
@themoviekidownz What sort of education are you talking about? They learn how to sing, dance and other communal essential values... Isn't it education?
sqccccccccc 1 year ago
@sqccccccccc
well, ive heard that people in greater economically developed countries (not third world countries) that the children can have better logic, its pretty simple. i do think that they should test this experiment on a larger scale of multi national children.
i think i meant logic, not education. >.<
themoviekidownz 1 year ago
Maybe Jessica, the subject of the experiment, faithfully repeated the actions, only because of the experimenter's presence. If she had been left alone free from approval, might she have tried a few alternatives?
Brainbuster1000 1 year ago
lol @ the narrator unnnecessarily pointing out that it isn't just children in africa that fail the see-through box test
moceanu 1 year ago
why are all thes comments saying religion makes us stupid instead of saying human nature is stupid?
potato579 1 year ago
so the one percent of cimpaz that did copy her and so they can learn english?
joeldsouza2 1 year ago
@mirk1500 I'm glad to see that your account is now gone.
djarm67 1 year ago
Was it for the religious, we were still in the middle ages.
tikay69 1 year ago
Box test: so humans = + for learning but - for spreading ignorance like religion
pseudotensor2 1 year ago 3
to me this shows we have lost our ability to think independently of authority; opening the way for religious leaders and capitalists to manipulate us. i think the trick is when its necessary to copy go ahead and copy when its not, do it your own way. just like my cousin chimp demonstrated on this clip.
atikbet 1 year ago
I love how half of this video is boasting about humanity's achievements.
TheReasonParty 1 year ago
perhaps we were never the first primate in the tree
ymonkey333 1 year ago
lol they should just call this chimps vs kids wtf
NewYorkRangers89 1 year ago
Id be curious about any biast in the study. What exactly are the instructions Dr. Horn gives. It could be the children are simply reacting to an appeal to authority and perform the steps even though they know they're not needed to get the reward
kartmankai 1 year ago
@kartmankai i'm sure they would have though about that, as i am sure other scientists have repeated the experiments and gathered similar results.
Juxtaroberto 1 year ago
What is up with all the hate on this page? This video is NOT about theists vs. atheists and does not mention anytime that God doesn't exist. Evolution does not say ANYTHING about how life began. If you think I'm wrong, look it up in any biological anthropology textbook. In fact, nobody is sure of how life began.
If you guys are so smart and knowledgeable, then you would know that only ignorant people don't know how to respect other's opinions.
MegaSupaFine 1 year ago
It's not a shortcut. The ape knows its all a lot of hullabaloo and wants the damned food.
Cstrife234 1 year ago
I wonder if Chimps can be taught to be teachers?
I also wonder if Chimps were compared to humans would we see a mixed line of inteligence from bottom to top?
Do chimps say "that is stupid" without knowing anything about it?
If chimps had a choice to be come human, how many would want to? I know I would rather live in a natural world in a natural way... I would choose being a chimp....
cyclenut 1 year ago
Actually, they are giving linguistic clues to the children. "Which ball will knock the apple out." The chimpanzees don't have that advantage.
MomoTheBellyDancer 1 year ago
Being 16 Id probably do all the steps with the box anyway. Id rather do something unnecessary and get my treat than try a shortcut and have a possibility of getting it wrong. heck they cloud of put some crazy sensors in that wretched box that don't give me the sticker if I don't do all the steps. Chimps are better at taking an calculating risks I think.
3xAwesome3x 1 year ago
@3xAwesome3x ide do all the steps to but simply bcuz of what u said as well they could have put some sort of sensor dat made the box collapse or lock if i didnt tap it i too rather get it 100% right than risk fuckin it up now if they would have told me to get it the fastest way possible than that would have been a different story =)
idlh 1 year ago
@idlh
yeah give me mah sticka!!
3xAwesome3x 1 year ago
@frykitty37 I think the physics test was even worse. They asked the children what ball would make the green or yellow ball fall down. The chimps are just given rewards for doing the right thing, but are not even communicated to what they are trying to do. They should have instead put like an apple instead of another ball, that way there would be more incentive to get the right heavier ball down the ramp sooner.
silverbackman 1 year ago
This guy boasts a bit
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Gonnakillyou 1 year ago
this box experiment is a nice metaphor for why people believe in God
Animatiotron 1 year ago 2
A sticker?? If I was one of those African kids I think I'd prefer the food reward.
aVeryIntelligentDog 1 year ago 46
@aVeryIntelligentDog actually I think the importance of playing games in mammals like these kids is at least as important as the immediate food, because with games we learn and explore how to survive, get more food, get a future, and keep a good mood.
neoflyboy 1 year ago
The humans probably copy it because they think there's some sort of trick going on that they can't see. That's why I would have done it when I was a kid.
The chimp doesn't even think about why the tester might be doing those extra actions.
GuacamoleKun 7 months ago
@GuacamoleKun If I was that little kid, I would have thought "If I don't do the first bits, the woman will see I cheated and she'll take the sticker back"
ThePwnageHobo 7 months ago 2
@aVeryIntelligentDog The sticker was exchanged for a food prize in both the children and the chimps
MicrowaveableTV 7 months ago
6:04 we invent ass bombs?
alexgillespie1 1 year ago
Wait a minute, this documentary shows us how humans blindly follow directions without questioning them where as primates far exceed our ability at re-evaluating and improving on what they've learned by observing and using logic...
But then they quickly tell us that this is a good thing??!! WTF?
This basically shows us how successfully we have been trained to conform to the system without thinking for ourselves. This explains our enslavement under things like Monarchy, the FED, gov and religion.
1loydster 1 year ago
This experiment might as well have showed how religions developed! Blindly following what was taught, even though the person MIGHT see that it's absolutely pointless!
Seems to me that evolution is still taking place on within our species. More and more people are starting to ask questions and not simply follow what they have been taught from their childhood!
To follow is a good thing to a point, especially for young kids, and it does keep order. But BLIND following is counterproductive!
Spetsop 1 year ago
@1loydster It does nonetheless also explain the issues listed by the lady, so it is not quite bad either.
It's all a matter of how much really, and it's sadly too much for people who happen to have been born into an intellectually unfavourable culture, so to say.
Gonnakillyou 1 year ago
im blown away by how many thumbs down there are on each video in the series!
Kamizi 1 year ago 3
@Kamizi I was just going to say the same thing! ^_^ I'm so grateful for these videos. This information is awesome.
ninashtia 1 year ago
This is a pretty good explanation for why we still have religion, we learn/progress by imitating our elders thoughts and actions.
We need to teach our kids to question things before accepting them.
R0aringC0w 1 year ago
So what if the earth is round and not flat? Who gives? If we didn't care about such things, it would not matter. We would just live. This is what the chimp does, just live and be content with just that. But humans do not want to just live. We want to explore and understand the world we live in and the world beyond. Chimps have no need for such knowledge and are not interested.
MsEmberScorpio 1 year ago
One big difference is our need and yearning for knowledge. We are more curious. Humans want to know about everything from space, to how micro-organisms reproduce to what lies at the bottom of the ocean. Why does space matter? Why should we learn about Jupiter or Neptune or galaxies far far away? Why do we even need to know about our own galaxy? These things does not affect us. Why learn about how we evolved. Why care about the speed of light? Why bother to experiment with nanotech?
MsEmberScorpio 1 year ago
This shows that how much time we waste in our lives by doing useless things!
PersonOfBook 1 year ago 3
There is a fault in the box trials. Did she give them the black box again to see if they'd follow all of that again? I'm saying consecutively. The chimp might automatically go right for it since it found what it wanted.
omanuder 1 year ago
Humans follow pointless rituals although they are no longer necessary. Wow, that sounds alot like religion.
aeroshock1 1 year ago 3
if the chimp remebers from 4 years it shows it could long term plan because it has a memory of long events there was no test though so the documentery makers assume no
same with the cultures we dont know how many ape cultures there are so we can't sya there are only a few
893160007 1 year ago
Funny how it took until Galileo to overturn Aristotle's notion that heavier objects fall faster. It seems like at least some of our notions of physics at least not innate.
Converse2Grow 1 year ago
This test reveals something startling. Children who are raised to believe in predetermined disposition in terms of philosophical beliefs and values would be less likely to investigate a greater solution to themselves and their society than a Chimpanzee! So that means that a Chimpanzee is most likely to investigate, reevaluate and even develop novel solutions to a challenge than human children who would continue to faithfully follow their parents and / or cultural mentors without question.
VerseInfinitum 2 years ago 54
You sir has just won at life...
desinate 2 years ago 2
@VerseInfinitum Although I gave this a thumbs up and agree with you, I don't think it's necessary to evoke beliefs and values. I think it's much more fundamental than that. But that understanding, either way, does make great implications to how we function in societies. It's rather interesting that comfort from imagined or real certainties about a function can really enliven a persons convictions. Life is quite strange.
zackersquackers 2 years ago
@VerseInfinitum I like how all these darwin groupies mindlessly spout their talking points like odedient non-thinking sheeple. Have ALL these darwin sheep people done ALL these experiments themselves? NO! Have they empircally SEEN a austriopithicus evolve to homosapiens??? NO! All they can do is to point to some 'authority' like a high priest of 'science' like Asimov,Gould,Sagan,etc. A Free Thinker like myself knows this video is crap!
kdc43 1 year ago
@kdc43 Although no single researcher has performed all of these experiments, however a coalition of institutes, universities and expeditions over the course of centuries have placed many discovered clues and continue to this day to synthesize all available data and established an applicable theory. Although new discoveries such as Ardi will continue to shape and reshape our understanding of human origins, science has proven to be the best means we've made to understand ourselves.
VerseInfinitum 1 year ago
@VerseInfinitum What about psychoanalisis?
sqccccccccc 1 year ago
@VerseInfinitum This is indeed amazing. This test proves something extremely important about the truth of human psychology and learning. It's a shocking thing really, shocking that we as humans can be so reliant on our teachers that we follow them faithfully and without question. At least for children that is, but sometimes that's all that is required to shape one's life.
palidan99 1 year ago
@VerseInfinitum but passing down knowledge from generation to generation by direct instruction is what made us survive and thrive, such as agriculture, making fire, hunting and so on, the chimps are learning like how a child looks over a classmates shoulder for the right answer to the test, there are probably a great many astounding chimp tools and techniques that have been lost over time because they do nothing more than copy each other and end up starting from scratch every few decades
UniteForgetLeftRight 1 year ago
@VerseInfinitum Thats not exactly true. If it were true everyone would still believe in religion and a lot of these studies would not be happening.
f00tstep 10 months ago
I love it, kids (people) do what they are told. Chimps want the food. Awesome test.
O2BSoLucky 2 years ago 2
box test is stupid because the girl is told to do what the woman says. the chimp just does it by himself. :/
binweevilshenza 2 years ago
the chimp is shown what to do as well
dk2853 2 years ago
They don´t see a reason to do what is shown to them, they want the food quickly as possible and nothing else.
The chimp is driven by greed, the children by empathy.
HomoGnosticus 2 years ago
test contrived to show a victory for humans
imnotabear 2 years ago
The box-test is stupid.
The kids were afraid to disappoint their teacher, so they did everything exactly like she had shown them before. The apes are only thinking about the food.
HomoGnosticus 2 years ago 5
exactly...for the kids, the expected behaviour(the correct behaviour) is to copy the teacher, and the reward for the kids is to complete the action sequence requested by their superior, the kids did exactly that. for the chimps its the reward that matters, they don't care about what the human expects of them.
sin331 2 years ago 4
@sin331 So true, children are doing what the superior expects. However, I dont only see this behavior in children; I see it with some adults as well. Look at how many people do things a certain way because that is the way they have always done it, they often refuse to even look at things from another point of view, even when the other way of performing a task is more efficient or logical.
Gnosis1030 1 year ago
@HomoGnosticus - I think that is sort of what they were saying. We copy everything exactly as shown, whereas a chimp notices the true solution more quickly. And, consequently, feels no qualms about disappointing the teacher.
jancar2012 2 years ago 2
no they aren't, you dont understand the purpose of the experiment!
PeacefulToker420 2 years ago
The apple experiment was not a legit test for what they were testing for. The children were given more instruction than the apes. The first kid specifically was directly told "Which ball do you need to use to knock the apple out of place." The ape may not have known how the contraption works in the first place, and didn't realize it was a matter of "knocking" that apple out of place.
NairbSenoj 2 years ago
@NairbSenoj
Only thing is they tested it on 1 year olds, that's amazing.
salbrismind 2 years ago
VERY interesting to see the difference in "judgement" about heavier vs lighter balls--when there was much LESS difference in the previous examples they've been showing us.
GetMeThere1 2 years ago
That box was brilliant!
sailortatooo 2 years ago
I think it is what makes humans different. The sole purpose of our actions do not revolve around only "treats", but, if any, the steps we are taught for whatever purpose, which would may be much greater than solely satisfying our hunger (not even). This is how art comes about, this is how anything greater than hunting and gathering come about.
musicidot 2 years ago
Narrator: "So, it seems, blindly copying isn't so stupid afterall."
Correct! It is utterly wasteful and absurd.
The intelligent animal moves directly on purpose, immediately identifies the useful purpose, and wastes no time ruining the environment for its peers and progeny.
Human beings have a gift for resisting responsibility for the most useful conceivable purpose. Maybe we'll catch on one day?
bando8000 2 years ago
it's a bit unfair on the apes.
When the child does the task the woman made him look at the 2 balls and said 'which ball will knock it down?' - making the child think about it and make a conscious choice.
I didn't see her talking to the apes!!
justjoe86 2 years ago 5
@justjoe86
well they should point out in the video that human children are smart enough to speak in words while adult apes still just scream and moan seemingly incoherently, further proof that humans are smarter!
Interestingly though apes can learn to hear words, but cannot audibly speak them. But then again so can dogs.
captainzerb 2 years ago
He's getting quite aggressive sounding - the narrator - by the end of this video isn't he???
catherinespark 2 years ago
I think what makes humans unique is that we do things simply because we can, or because we know we can. I can't see other animals that do that.
catherinespark 2 years ago
What a smart monkey =]
using the shortcut lol
daccord1 2 years ago
in the box game. the apes goal is to get the food but the humans goal was to play the game i think that can have an effect on the result.
2canines 2 years ago 2
lol. at 7:23, i can picture him squealing "Weeeee!"
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Chimps don't believe in god/s because they are not that dumb. :P
tehjow 2 years ago 74
@tehjow AGREED!
DoomMoofy 1 year ago
@tehjow Human intelligence may have the highest limit but human stupidity has absolutely no limits while stupidity of animals has a limit.
login001login001 1 year ago