Furthermore students, I have dreamed, woken up, fallen back into the SAME dream, woke up, and fallen back in again. Pretty damn awesome, no? Well, if it's a good dream that you want back in on. Oh here's a bad one. When you wake up, can't move, mind is screaming for air and you slip back in a deeper level...and the process repeats itself over and over. That'll have you drinking coffee like the Freddie Kruger chic with the gray patch. Trust me.
@stillsavedbyhisgrace:"When you wake up, can't move, mind is screaming for air and you slip back in a deeper level"
It's called a Night Terror and is very common in young children, but can also happen to adults, many of which use the episode as evidence of being abducted by space aliens
I slept walked for years as a kid. Even got out of the house once. I had night terrors. I'd freak out and start screaming but not know it. I think the house was haunted. I have had dreams that would make a strong man call his mommy. I didn't think it was haunted then...by anything but humans :), but my dreams have revealed things. In color. (Heeby-jeebys as we speak!)
The intolerance of people creating the comments really astonishes me. Why can't we have an honest respectful debate? Why do you have to retort to hate speech and slander? Some of you can't even spell correctly.
Can you prove mathematics with mathematics? Of course not. Mathematics is self evident. I believe God is also self evident in the mere existence of the world because nothing can begin without a cause. That assumption is based off logic.
@GregariousGorilla:"Mathematics is self evident. I believe God is also self evident"
1. Mathematics pretty much proves itself, at least up to a point.
2. The only reason you BELIEVE that god is self-evident, is because you were taught to associate nature with a god creating it, or perhaps from a bad case of wishful-thinking
This portrayal of God is extremely inaccurate and unfair of the real truth. If people are serious about learning about God and or theology, don't watch a couple of unconvincing YouTube videos and permanently declare your position on the ultimate question of life. That is truly unsophisticated. I was actually an atheist until I started reading C.S. Lewis and G.K. Chesterton and did my own independent research.
--I wish the best of luck who truly have an open mind to discover truth.
@GregariousGorilla:"I was actually an atheist until I started reading C.S. Lewis and G.K. Chesterton and did my own independent research."
You're either a liar about being a former atheist, or you were just one hell of a LAZY MINDED atheist, to be fooled so EASILY by CS Lewis and the like
@GregariousGorilla Call i 800 get help!!! ATHEIST do not go to gods you was never a ATHEIST. Mybe a wan't to be or just mad at your god that is all.PPL do not go smart to dumb.Will you are what we call the exception of domb ass.That one is so old LOL !!! I was a ATHEIST But now that i seen this researh.Will what did you find? O BY the way for get about "C.S. Lewis and G.K. Chesterton" .And just read your red bloody bible.You do not need "Youtube"To find the psychopath killer.Good night all
@GregariousGorilla open mind is usually associated with agnostic atheists...stating that god is the ''truth'' means that you are a gnostic theist one of the less open minded group there is.
the portrayal of god is actually pretty accurate...way more accurate than what a lot of christians portray him as.
i have to say that im talking about the god they talk about in the bible...not a god that agree with everything that i think is right and still agree when i change my opinion about it.
They say we aren't suppose to question God. Hmmmm.. Ok, homo erectus and other hominds had very small cranial capacity which means they didn't have any intellegence of modern humans have today, so if our brain has well evolved vs. them, why did "it" give us the ability to discover, record, and potentially improvise when issues occur? You guys anchoring the majority from gaining more intellegence, this is why kids believe school sucks, because of you people are slowing time down. Stop barricading
I don't debate Christians for the same reason I don't debate someone who thinks the Moon is made of cheese. The notion of a God is preposterous in this day and age of science, reason and technology. Believers lack the common sense to debate among reasonable people. I won't tolerate the imposition of your God's rules on me from the get go. It's degrading. I don't have to prove that your God doesn't exist. I've evolved beyond God and the need to justify my position to those who remain stagnant.
@stillsavedbyhisgrace - if by "love" you mean genocide, rape, incest, slavery, child murder, plagues and curses, animal sacrifice, then yes. God shows TONS of this "love" in the old testament.
ExtantFrodo2 My father claimed he always dream in monochrome. It's only happened to me a couple of times.
Not sure what you mean here by monochrome. I did a brief google check and people vary widely on how and why they dream. Some people adamantly claim all people dream one way or another and their reasoning is that even tho u think u did...u didn't because of this, that and the other. Lol (these were opinions off a google search) Can't we ever just take each others words for it?
I have probably dreamed in black and white a handful of times. Oddly, one was 2 nights ago though it was blurry too, it was black and white. Funny thing is, what this guy said to me was so intense. And relevant. Which I realize is not a surprise, the relevance, but the black and white had thrown me off and I'm quite stunned to hear that is supposedly the norm.
I have probably dreamed in black and white a handful of times. Oddly, one was 2 nights ago though it was blurry too, it was black and white. Funny thing is, what this guy said to me was so intense. And relevant. Which I realize is not a surprise, the relevance, but the black and white had thrown me off and I'm quite stunned to hear that is supposedly the norm.
Julius Caesar does not exist! Wow my dreams take place in soul space? You are all really warped! If you met me in dreamtime I doubt you'd forget. BTW color & black and white with experiences of Oder, temperature,
space, and all senses plus some (you'd have to be there). Also if you die in your dream you don't die in here.
@stillsavedbyhisgrace - the whole thing of Pythagoras and the circles and square and Zeus and Dionysus(obvious as the myth) all true. Also I found out while learning this that Pythagoras saw a connection between music and numerical order.... What!? It lead to the birth of geometry... WHAT!? Interesting stuff.
@stillsavedbyhisgrace - haha, sorry I got Zeus filling that hole. That stuff I wrote about is all true, except obviously the part about it proving Zeus, even though the Vitruvian man was made for that kinda reason. Davinci believed the workings of the body was an analogy for the workings of the universe. Interesting stuff!... Stay tuned for more tales of intrest.
@ThePublicIsInsane And this is why you get cussed out. You actually had my attention. I was reading your comments and the last one truly peaked my interest. Then...u did what u always do. I wish I could beat you. A little. And I would care for u when it was over but...u need some tough love. We were so close. (Whispers) so close!
I can't even begin to reply to your Jesus denial because we've been through it a million times and you are lying again.
@stillsavedbyhisgrace - what do you think a third person perspective of ascending Jesus would look like? To me, you start on the ground. Watch him float up. Then him leaving earths ozone into the black of space, then a cut scene to that game "astroids" with Jesus spinning and blowing up astroids(most likely using prayers, because he doesn't answer them, so they double as ammunition) then he lands in heaven, I guess?
@stillsavedbyhisgrace - what about what? If what to my evidence, it's comprised from the most intelligent people to ever walk the earth. The literal movers of intelligent civilization. Your evidence is goat herders and incestuous families. If you want powers, stick with Jesus. At rapture you fly into the sky to heaven(don't let the space station hit you in the ass on your way out)
Believing in a *God* that spills more blood than the *devil* you all so fear,believing that if you put blind trust into him you will be able to go to a perfect place with no death or fear.Makes perfect sense huh?
@stillsavedbyhisgrace -cont- hey at least I have concrete evidence of actual recorded people, from not even that long ago(Davinci) and the photographic proof( Vitruvian man) to support my claims. What do have? Testimonies from people 150 years after the fact and.......that's about it. If you want powers stat with Jesus. At rapture you ascend to heaven. (super, your flying now)
@stillsavedbyhisgrace - cont- here's the fascinating part. Davinci noticed something that Pythagoras didn't or at least did not factor into his theory. An eqaulateral triangle, which was the symbol of unity. Happens to be created with the Vitruvian mans legs. All 3 basic shapes of the universe, in perfect allignment with the human body.
@stillsavedbyhisgrace -cont- many have tried this and failed. Forcing(drawing) a human into these two shapes ended in failure with disproportionate arms or legs. Not until Davinci, who was inspired by Pythagoras, was it attempted and mastered. Davinci was able to see the circle and square and drew them after the human. This is the Vitruvian man, and proof of Zeus.
@stillsavedbyhisgrace - now Pythagoras noticed that numbers not only have quantities but qualities(geometry) and that math is the underlay of the workings of the universe. The symbol of the gods was a circle, the symbol of the titans or mortality, a square. Pythagoras theorized if the symmetry of the body can be aligned inside both a circle and square, that it reveals our two natures and truth of this story. Tbc
@stillsavedbyhisgrace - humans were created from the ash of fueding gods. Zeus had a kid(Dionysus) with, not his wive. She got pissed and had the titans kill her, therefore Zeus killed the titans. But Dionysus heart lay in the ash. He created a new dionsysus but the remains were tainted by ask of the titans. Therefore humans were born as a bi product, if you will. I'll get to the proving in a sec...tbc.
@dagman36571 Funny you mention economics. One day I woke from a lovely rest...in class!!! The room was empty except for the teacher sitting at his desk smiling at me. He was cute and I...was drooling!(Super good sleep drool) Not good! Lol
As for the mind before body, I can't put a number on it but on the fly I'd say 500 times.
@stillsavedbyhisgrace on the mind waking before the body thing, i have done that 2-3 times. i was in class (macro-economics) had my head in my hands looking at the floor and my body wouldnt do anything i told it.(really boring teacher, mono-toned) every time i could barely see the stairs and it always lookd like he was coming up them lol.
As for what you said, maybe I am privy to a plane that others aren't. I been shot, stabbed and a plethora of other things. I wake up, unable to move because my body isn't awake yet but my mind is...that's a bitch, trust me. My mind thinks it needs air but my body is still in sleep mode. I have to fight and struggle to wake my body up.
@ThePublicIsInsane Maybe it's your delivery. It didn't come across as fun fact. It came across as "let me explain elementary common sense to you". Know what I mean?
And the whole shootin' match started with you telling me what I experienced was not what I experienced. I do reason in dreams. And you even through in the 'ol "we have to have some level of consciousness, or we'd be dead". Really, I had no idea. :P
@ThePublicIsInsane If I did say what happen didn't really happen, I meant the dream compared to reality, in which case your dream didn't actually happen.
Um...the fact that u felt u had to literate that to me...says a lot about why I feel the way I do in our discussions. Do u understand?
@stillsavedbyhisgrace - where did I say that you weren't lucid dreaming? If I did say what happen didn't really happen, I meant the dream compared to reality, in which case your dream didn't actually happen. Such as if I were to day dream about having 1 mil dollars. In reality it's not truth.
@ThePublicIsInsane Destroyer of hope. Lol. Giving yourself a lot of power there huh? What it was is that I commented my experiences and you told me I was wrong. That what had happened to me hadn't happened. Can't you see how that might rub me the wrong way? (Again, not the good kind) lol
@ThePublicIsInsane Speaking of disorders...please forgive me Pub. You are certainly not innocent but I did heep up some extra crap on ya today.
Sorry bro.
God just graced me with a miracle and...I feel bad for taking some anger out on u. I will concede that I may sometimes read a bit too much into your comments.
@stillsavedbyhisgrace - "woe is me" doesn't really apply to me considering it's the final breaking point of people turning and begging for god to bail them out, kinda like tebow. - "oh Jesus it's forth quarter and we're losing, please come bail me out." -Suggs. Pretty sure Job got that saying started after god made his life miserable for a gentlemans bet with Satan at the expense of Job. - now that's stupid.
@stillsavedbyhisgrace - considering I haven't called you one curse word and you called me a dick a couple times, a dumb fuck, once or twice, and I think some other milder insults, I feel I should be in your shoes with all your anger. I only stated that dreams are just that, dreams. Oh no!!! He's a destroyer of hope. - sure I guess, why not.
@ThePublicIsInsane (pub) woe is me. I insult people directly and indirectly and they get mad. Poor me. Why? Why great universe created from..um..hang on..(Subject change) soo..anyone seen any good movies. (Grace) I did! (Pub) No. No you didn't. It was most likely a brain malfunction caused by the effect of the lighting on your retinas.
@stillsavedbyhisgrace - what? I think I would be a dick BECAUSE I speak my mind. And no my first comment to you 4 hours ago was just stating about the brain functions while in REM. I did open with "wanna hear something interesting about dreams" not "grace your dreams are wrong and so are you" just that dreams aren't weird while dreaming due to lack of reason due to lack of activity of the brain while in REM.
@ThePublicIsInsane You should stop reading so much into things. And I don't believe you speak your mind else ya wouldn't be such a dick on here. Now, back to topic. U did not nor do u ever approach me in a "hey, by the way, here's some interesting info". All beaver cleaver and shit. You bloviate all over me and not in a good way!!! Dick.
@stillsavedbyhisgrace -cont- sorry if that's jumbled, losing my train of thought. Preoccupied, I do work full time. But what I meant to say more clearly: I am act no differently in public or with friends than I do here. As for the offending: I don't intend to offend, it happens. I find it amusing because when I find things offensive, people seem to be outrage by my outrage. Oh well, right?!
@stillsavedbyhisgrace - well you essentially called me gay, so I had to at least mention it. As for the personality disorder, which one? There are tons. And no, pretty much how I am as I am here in public if on the topic, I'll speak my mind. I'm not out to offend but I find it amusing, when people do. Since when I'm offended I'm not allowed to show the same passion. So I tend to let it slide, I wish people could do that in return.
@ThePublicIsInsane Oh geez. Here we go with one of your gay rants. It was only a matter of time. I'm just offering you some handy advice. Decline it if u like. As for your ladies, I'm not buying it. Unless u have a personality disorder and the one u bring here goes bye-bye when u leave...u aint gettin' any. If the latter is true, u should not be taken seriously. So. Which is it. (Sits across from you smiling with chin resting on crossed hands in eager anticipation...)
@stillsavedbyhisgrace - lol what, his story was steamy. I wasn't getting hot over him but his steamy narration of what happened. I guess woman reading romance novels by other women are an abomination and support the queermosexual agenda. I only wish some of the girls iv slept with were a dream. It's not like I don't have regrets getting busy with certain ladies.
@ThePublicIsInsane Ya know how every once in awhile you u carry on about the chics u hook up with? I used to think, ok, I can see it. U come off steamy sometimes. I've now realized there is no way in hell you're getting laid. It's all been a dream, Pub. A lovely little, little, little...dream. :D. Oh and it's gay to tell another dude u got a boner from his story. Just sayin'.
@stillsavedbyhisgrace - I actually stepped in with "you wanna hear something interesting" and just said that the reasoning part of your brain shuts down that's why weird things don't seem weird in the dream. Soo. Plus "you told me what I thought had happen didn't really happen" - what in your dream? I don't think I said that but I will now. Spoiler alert! What happens in your dreams are not really happening. That's just common sense.
@ThePublicIsInsane Are you serious? I'm being punked, right? I commented about my dreams and you came in swinging your monkey around telling me how wrong I was and how what I thought had happened had not actually happened. Lmao! You're such a dick!!!
@stillsavedbyhisgrace - well then if this is about the symbolism and meanings of dreams then I fail to see how there can be any if you are controlling the course of your own dream. Also I dont understand what you're getting at by saying you can have lucid dreams? I never said youre wrong or didn't have them, I have. I just don't understand what you are supporting with an experience of a lucid dream.
Then I guess I'm on another level than you. Pity. You'd enjoy the thrill of being there and knowing it and being aware and making decisions and like I said, riding that edge because you know you're dreaming and you don't want to wake up.
I'll await your response telling me I'm wrong and how the universe is your king. Which reminds me, this isn't about Jesus today. I guess your brain hadn't deduced that yet.
@stillsavedbyhisgrace - you haven't given me specifically any info or experiences other than your lucid dream and calling what I said bullshit. Even though sleep cycles and what occurs while experiencing them are like psych 101. If your information is Jesus, it doesn't hold much weight in comparison to other religions that teach basically the same morality, only with a different ultimate destination for man kind, which can't be proven. :D
@ThePublicIsInsane No. Its bullshit because it's coming out of your half cooked brain and you refuse to acknowledge that I have information and knowledge that is valuable and potentially may change your outlook on life and what you've already determined to be cold hard facts, when, in fact, you're dead fucking wrong. Dick.
@stillsavedbyhisgrace - be honest, is it only bullshit because it doesn't show the world appeasing to the wishes of humans? As if the universe is a result of humans instead of humans being a result of the universe.
@ThePublicIsInsane What is this "us"? I'm talking to YOU. I don't have time for YOU and YOUR bullshit. You already know everything anyway. You dumb fuck. And tell your asshole buddies this is between u and me so stay the fuck out of it. You keep telling yourself I live in a dream world and I'll keep growing in leaps and bounds by realizing I don't know everything which allows me to learn every day. Dick.
@ThePublicIsInsane I've told you my experience. I did not ask for a dissertation on what you fucking think may or may have not happened in my dream!!!! For the love of all things. Oh shit. Fuck you Pub.
@stillsavedbyhisgrace - lol you don't have enough time for this? You just wanna learn? Learn what exactly? Unless it fits the description of magical thinking or symbolic meanings through interpretations of vague or random experiences, you don't want to hear about it. Sorry that life isn't as romantically poetic as you like to think it is.
@stillsavedbyhisgrace - they weren't two separate answers. Just because parts of your brain shut down doesn't mean you lose all consciousness, you obviously have some form of consciousness while dreaming in order to catalog the events, then wake and reflect on them. Because the reasoning part of the brain shuts down, doesn't mean you lose consciousness. Reasoning has nothing to do with awareness. In a dream, I'm aware I'm flying, but not questioning it.
@ThePublicIsInsane I honestly don't have time for this. My god is there anyone out there who wants to have a back and forth conversation where we can learn from each other? Get the bouncer and get this know it all fuck out of my face!!!
@stillsavedbyhisgrace - you're not Leonardo DiCaprio, and this isn't inception. You don't have 100% control while you dream. While you can make choices and perhaps change things around you, you're not voluntarily controlling every little detail. Besides if your controlling the dream, that pretty much means you have no underlying meaning. Which was original point of dreams.
@stillsavedbyhisgrace - well duuuuurrrrr you can be conscious when you dream, how else would you remember? But parts do shut down. Obviously not the whole brain, that would be death. As for you controlling your dreams very rarely does that happen, UNLESS you do some meditation and preparations like dream journal keeping and mild hypnosis. That's how most people acuire this lucid dreaming skills. But reasoning still Shuts down with rem.
@ThePublicIsInsane Actually I have and can be quite aware in my dreams, even causing what I want to happen, to happen. Fully aware that I'm dreaming and riding that careful edge so I don't wake myself fully.
Stick that in your "knowledge" pipe and choke, er...smoke it.
@stillsavedbyhisgrace - you wanna hear something interesting about dreams? The reasoning part of your brain shuts down in REM sleep. You ever wonder why dreams can be so bizarre but you never realize just how bizarre they are, until you wake up? You never question the oddness while in the dream, only play along until waking. Then when all conciousness returns say to yourself "what an odd dream." - yes it is odd...now that youre awake.
The first wet dream I ever had was fantastique! Oh wow it was really intense. She was dark haired and stripped out of her t-shirt and miniskirt doing the most sensual belly dance. Then she writhed up and down my body stripping off my clothes. Then she squirmed up and down me. Everywhere she touches me instantly becomes lubricated. Her lips graze my ear, her shoulder slides along my cheek, I can smell her everywhere.
We embrace and wrestle at the same time, I desiring to enter her, she playfull
@allahbama420 I've had dreams that were beyond explanation. Last night. It was awful and vivid and I literally remember every step I took and move I made. Now for the assholes who think this message is for anyone but Bama, kiss my ass. I'm not talking to you.
It was the kind that leaves your heart beating and hands trembling.
Weird things about dreams - guns don't fire, knives wont penetrate, punches have no power, can never run fast enough, water/ice often, and often it is a struggle/battle/fight.
@stillsavedbyhisgrace So when I'm dreaming about sex am I having sex with a person that wants to have sex with me? And if this person really doesn't want to have sex in real life am I now violating her soul with my dream?
@stillsavedbyhisgrace:"I completely disagree and find your factual interpretation of that statement appalling."
Fine, then all you need to is show how 2 souls have met in some virtual dream-scape and exchanged detailed information with each other, where no cheating is possible.
Wow that has to be literally the dumbest interpretation of Christianity I have ever had the misfortune of seeing... I almost hope you were just trollin instead of actually believing this.... LFIH (losing faith in humanity)
Mark David Chapman had become a born-again Christian in 1970, and was incensed by Lennon's "bigger than Jesus" remark, calling it blasphemy. He later stated he was further enraged by "God", and "Imagine"—even singing the latter with the altered lyric: "Imagine John Lennon dead.John was a ATHEIST All you have to do is look on youtuble and hear "Imagine'and if you do not under stand give a look at the lyrics, Yes he was a spiritual man but far from god.all that he did want was peace!Christian kil
@Jonboy176 I'm really gonna need you to let the people I request information from, offer that information. From their own perspective, not yours. Unless...you are them or have absolutely no faith in their ability to debate.
first off im not a follower in faiths. Secondly are you "christians" aware there are other older religions out there that you call fake. lol oh you crazy kids i get such a kick out of you with your oh sooo cute fairy tales :)
@ExtantFrodo2 Yes, but what I'm pointing out is that a perfectly happy perfectly healthy optimistic born again christian with a great life and everything going for him can have a stroke and undergo an immediate profound and permanent personality change.
1-Id like to meet this guy, maybe I could pick up some tips from his perfect life. 2-I'm saying that tho they may not be able to communicate as well, how do we know a higher level of awareness has not been attained?
If I die a christian, and there isn't a heaven, there is no God and we just die and nothing happens, I had nothing to loose believing. Then you were right.
But if I die a christian, I am going to heaven. And if you die a non Christian, the oops, you'd wish you could have just believed
@ChandlerTheMouse Or... you could die a Christian and find out that Allah is really pissed that you did worship him. So pissed in fact that he kicks your ass all the way to Valhalla.
@ChandlerTheMouse This is the cowards way of living. And don't you think an omnitiant god would know that you're only practicing your religion to get into heaven.
Aaaand ya did. Atheist humor really sucks. Anyhoo...the sweet spirit that lives in us has been beat down in many ways less immediately dramatic as a stroke or say a terrible accident causing one to lose the ability to function at what we humans call a normal level...or, do they?
How do you know they have not risen above? Food for thought. ;) You're welcome. Oh and, thanks for not being mean.
@stillsavedbyhisgrace "the sweet spirit that lives in us has been beat down in many ways less immediately dramatic as a stroke or say a terrible accident causing one to lose the ability to function at what we humans call a normal level."
Yes, but what I'm pointing out is that a perfectly happy perfectly healthy optimistic born again christian with a great life and everything going for him can have a stroke and undergo an immediate profound and permanent personality change.
@Jonboy176 Can you prove that? That Jesus is make believe? Oh that's right. Since I can't prove the spaghetti monster doesn't exist...blah, blah, blah.
@atheisttoothfairy - not that you could be one of these people. I work full time and do all this by iPhone, but I do get the impression that some people on here are just chillen in front of a screen all day. I get that feel about grace.
@facelessone1391 '' Anyone who thinks they can convince anyone to believe something else via YouTube comments is retarded '', not true, i've had two people tell me that since i pointed out there is no historical evidence for Jesus, the Bible Atrocities ( that their parents and teachers failed to mention ) and the info on Mithra, they've realised the Bible is utter nonsense. It's our duty to help the deluded
@Jonboy176 And it's also true that one trick is to have multiple YouTube accounts to back up arguments by taking on opposite personas thus giving the illusion of apparent successes on a subject. But you really telling us that you take YouTube comments that seriously?!!
Well, if it makes you feel you're putting the world to rights and that you're doing your duty, that's fine..as long as you're happy. God Bless.
@RobbeyT Some people, unlike you , actually look up some of the links to information and learn from them, my comments are of no importance if i can't support them with facts, that's all i do, point them to the evidence, and i'm not trying to put the world to rights, just a few deluded creationists.. which god do you want to bless me btw ?, or shall i choose one ?
@RobbeyT Btw in all your time as a Christian, have you ever once spent time researching any historical factual evidence for the man you claim to be the Son of god..Jesus.. or is it too big a test of your faith ?
@RobbeyT '' But you'll never be able to understand why a christian says he/she knows Jesus personally '', yes i will, he or she is delusional. Your '' personal relationship '' is no more real than that of a 6 year old with an imaginary friend.. god is your comfort blanket and Jesus the dummy/pacifier to help you sleep easy
@RobbeyT '' But you'll never be able to understand why a christian says he/she knows Jesus personally '', yes i will, he or she is delusional. Your '' personal relationship '' is no more real than that of a 6 year old with an imaginary friend.. god is your comfort blanket and Jesus the dummy/pacifier to help you sleep easy
There isn't a human being who should be able to make a judgement on whether or not God exists. It's not even apparent what "reality" is when you consider the concept of sense-data. The passage of time is based entirely on reference frames, which is to say we don't really understand what it means for something to acquire "space".
We know there's something remarkable going on around us, but how it all works is still a mystery. It's remarkable how anyone can claim Christianity is the answer.
No where in the bible does it say you go straight to hell if you don't know or believe in God. Extreme Christians would make it seem that way, but its not. Good men do not go to hell, if you even think there really is a hell.
God is a load of bollks
TheBoob5000 1 hour ago
lololol no
ReLicInsanity 3 hours ago
Furthermore students, I have dreamed, woken up, fallen back into the SAME dream, woke up, and fallen back in again. Pretty damn awesome, no? Well, if it's a good dream that you want back in on. Oh here's a bad one. When you wake up, can't move, mind is screaming for air and you slip back in a deeper level...and the process repeats itself over and over. That'll have you drinking coffee like the Freddie Kruger chic with the gray patch. Trust me.
stillsavedbyhisgrace 5 hours ago
@stillsavedbyhisgrace:"When you wake up, can't move, mind is screaming for air and you slip back in a deeper level"
It's called a Night Terror and is very common in young children, but can also happen to adults, many of which use the episode as evidence of being abducted by space aliens
AtheistToothFairy 2 hours ago
Dreaming is a physical experience.
The doctor is in the house. trust me.
stillsavedbyhisgrace 5 hours ago
btw I never took a good look at this video christianity is a joke
Fuck religion!
Cenasucks0161 5 hours ago
I slept walked for years as a kid. Even got out of the house once. I had night terrors. I'd freak out and start screaming but not know it. I think the house was haunted. I have had dreams that would make a strong man call his mommy. I didn't think it was haunted then...by anything but humans :), but my dreams have revealed things. In color. (Heeby-jeebys as we speak!)
stillsavedbyhisgrace 5 hours ago
The intolerance of people creating the comments really astonishes me. Why can't we have an honest respectful debate? Why do you have to retort to hate speech and slander? Some of you can't even spell correctly.
GregariousGorilla 15 hours ago
@GregariousGorilla:"The intolerance of people creating the comments really astonishes me"
Actually, it's the intolerance of SILLY ideas that we show here.
You know, like people who make wild claims that they have no means to support with EVIDENCE
AtheistToothFairy 15 hours ago
Can you prove mathematics with mathematics? Of course not. Mathematics is self evident. I believe God is also self evident in the mere existence of the world because nothing can begin without a cause. That assumption is based off logic.
GregariousGorilla 14 hours ago
@GregariousGorilla:"Mathematics is self evident. I believe God is also self evident"
1. Mathematics pretty much proves itself, at least up to a point.
2. The only reason you BELIEVE that god is self-evident, is because you were taught to associate nature with a god creating it, or perhaps from a bad case of wishful-thinking
AtheistToothFairy 14 hours ago
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@GregariousGorilla "I believe God is also self evident in the mere existence of the world because nothing can begin without a cause."
Then your deity can't exist without something having caused it, and we're back to infinite regress.
By the way, "the world"(Earth) has a known cause: the accretion of the matter around our Sun after it formed.
Avicaris 12 hours ago
@GregariousGorilla Why do you presume matter had a beginning? As far as we know the BB was only a change in matter, not the origin of it.
ExtantFrodo2 11 hours ago
This portrayal of God is extremely inaccurate and unfair of the real truth. If people are serious about learning about God and or theology, don't watch a couple of unconvincing YouTube videos and permanently declare your position on the ultimate question of life. That is truly unsophisticated. I was actually an atheist until I started reading C.S. Lewis and G.K. Chesterton and did my own independent research.
--I wish the best of luck who truly have an open mind to discover truth.
GregariousGorilla 17 hours ago
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@GregariousGorilla:"I was actually an atheist until I started reading C.S. Lewis and G.K. Chesterton and did my own independent research."
You're either a liar about being a former atheist, or you were just one hell of a LAZY MINDED atheist, to be fooled so EASILY by CS Lewis and the like
AtheistToothFairy 16 hours ago
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@GregariousGorilla Call i 800 get help!!! ATHEIST do not go to gods you was never a ATHEIST. Mybe a wan't to be or just mad at your god that is all.PPL do not go smart to dumb.Will you are what we call the exception of domb ass.That one is so old LOL !!! I was a ATHEIST But now that i seen this researh.Will what did you find? O BY the way for get about "C.S. Lewis and G.K. Chesterton" .And just read your red bloody bible.You do not need "Youtube"To find the psychopath killer.Good night all
zxtxa 16 hours ago
@GregariousGorilla --I wish the best of luck who truly have an open mind to discover truth.
WHAT A JOKE! DO GET HELP, OR SOME PROOF.
zxtxa 16 hours ago
@GregariousGorilla open mind is usually associated with agnostic atheists...stating that god is the ''truth'' means that you are a gnostic theist one of the less open minded group there is.
the portrayal of god is actually pretty accurate...way more accurate than what a lot of christians portray him as.
i have to say that im talking about the god they talk about in the bible...not a god that agree with everything that i think is right and still agree when i change my opinion about it.
DIVAD291 14 hours ago
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@DIVAD291 "...not a god that agree with everything that i think is right and still agree when i change my opinion about it."
well put.
TheHigherVoltage 7 hours ago
God dont talk like this... sorry but if you want people to believe in God... threatening is not God style.. im a CHristian...
ginald26 17 hours ago
They say we aren't suppose to question God. Hmmmm.. Ok, homo erectus and other hominds had very small cranial capacity which means they didn't have any intellegence of modern humans have today, so if our brain has well evolved vs. them, why did "it" give us the ability to discover, record, and potentially improvise when issues occur? You guys anchoring the majority from gaining more intellegence, this is why kids believe school sucks, because of you people are slowing time down. Stop barricading
xlrvlac 19 hours ago
@paramattic70 Knowing what I know...that's heartbreaking. Take another look. For you your loved ones.
stillsavedbyhisgrace 1 day ago
I don't debate Christians for the same reason I don't debate someone who thinks the Moon is made of cheese. The notion of a God is preposterous in this day and age of science, reason and technology. Believers lack the common sense to debate among reasonable people. I won't tolerate the imposition of your God's rules on me from the get go. It's degrading. I don't have to prove that your God doesn't exist. I've evolved beyond God and the need to justify my position to those who remain stagnant.
paramattic70 1 day ago
@zxtxa ((((((zxtxa))))))
stillsavedbyhisgrace 1 day ago
THIS IS WHY Vipsamsam RUNS LIKE HELL!!!! " 0 THE OLD, CRY CRY"
zxtxa 1 day ago
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@stillsavedbyhisgrace There's alot of love and great inspiration in the Old Testament.----------
You do surprise me,most Christians run so fast and deny the old T. They do not like what they see and can not face it.
zxtxa 1 day ago
@stillsavedbyhisgrace - to deny these preachments would be equivalent to denying the holocaust.
ThePublicIsInsane 1 day ago
@stillsavedbyhisgrace - if by "love" you mean genocide, rape, incest, slavery, child murder, plagues and curses, animal sacrifice, then yes. God shows TONS of this "love" in the old testament.
ThePublicIsInsane 1 day ago
@ExtantFrodo2 Belief? Pishah! It's for losers.
No. It's for winners. :)
stillsavedbyhisgrace 1 day ago
@stillsavedbyhisgrace NOT
zxtxa 1 day ago
ExtantFrodo2 My father claimed he always dream in monochrome. It's only happened to me a couple of times.
Not sure what you mean here by monochrome. I did a brief google check and people vary widely on how and why they dream. Some people adamantly claim all people dream one way or another and their reasoning is that even tho u think u did...u didn't because of this, that and the other. Lol (these were opinions off a google search) Can't we ever just take each others words for it?
stillsavedbyhisgrace 1 day ago
Boop
ThePublicIsInsane 1 day ago
Too bad people don't understand this is actually a critique to Christianism
nbax5 1 day ago
lolz
ctlex3 1 day ago
this actually makes fun of christianity.
aliasdwert 1 day ago
there is no god.
aliasdwert 1 day ago
dagman36571 we dont dream in color.
Am I in the Twilight Zone? I dream in color.
stillsavedbyhisgrace 1 day ago
@stillsavedbyhisgrace My father claimed he always dream in monochrome. It's only happened to me a couple of times.
ExtantFrodo2 1 day ago
b&w is black and white. we dont dream in color.
side note, black and white, great computer game where you play god and have a pet and people to look after while trying to kill the other gods.
dagman36571 1 day ago
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@AtheistToothFairy then why do most of us dream in B&W intead of color.
I have probably dreamed in black and white a handful of times. Oddly, one was 2 nights ago though it was blurry too, it was black and white. Funny thing is, what this guy said to me was so intense. And relevant. Which I realize is not a surprise, the relevance, but the black and white had thrown me off and I'm quite stunned to hear that is supposedly the norm.
stillsavedbyhisgrace 1 day ago
@AtheistToothFairy then why do most of us dream in B&W intead of color.
I have probably dreamed in black and white a handful of times. Oddly, one was 2 nights ago though it was blurry too, it was black and white. Funny thing is, what this guy said to me was so intense. And relevant. Which I realize is not a surprise, the relevance, but the black and white had thrown me off and I'm quite stunned to hear that is supposedly the norm.
stillsavedbyhisgrace 1 day ago
b&w is black and white. we dont dream in color
dagman36571 1 day ago
Julius Caesar does not exist! Wow my dreams take place in soul space? You are all really warped! If you met me in dreamtime I doubt you'd forget. BTW color & black and white with experiences of Oder, temperature,
space, and all senses plus some (you'd have to be there). Also if you die in your dream you don't die in here.
Bramak17 1 day ago
@stillsavedbyhisgrace - the whole thing of Pythagoras and the circles and square and Zeus and Dionysus(obvious as the myth) all true. Also I found out while learning this that Pythagoras saw a connection between music and numerical order.... What!? It lead to the birth of geometry... WHAT!? Interesting stuff.
ThePublicIsInsane 1 day ago
@stillsavedbyhisgrace - haha, sorry I got Zeus filling that hole. That stuff I wrote about is all true, except obviously the part about it proving Zeus, even though the Vitruvian man was made for that kinda reason. Davinci believed the workings of the body was an analogy for the workings of the universe. Interesting stuff!... Stay tuned for more tales of intrest.
ThePublicIsInsane 1 day ago
@ThePublicIsInsane And this is why you get cussed out. You actually had my attention. I was reading your comments and the last one truly peaked my interest. Then...u did what u always do. I wish I could beat you. A little. And I would care for u when it was over but...u need some tough love. We were so close. (Whispers) so close!
I can't even begin to reply to your Jesus denial because we've been through it a million times and you are lying again.
stillsavedbyhisgrace 1 day ago
JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THERES NO SUCH THING AS GOD
CarvelJFru 1 day ago
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@CarvelJFru
"JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THERES NO SUCH THING AS GOD"
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What do you mean by God?
vipsamsam 1 day ago
@stillsavedbyhisgrace - what do you think a third person perspective of ascending Jesus would look like? To me, you start on the ground. Watch him float up. Then him leaving earths ozone into the black of space, then a cut scene to that game "astroids" with Jesus spinning and blowing up astroids(most likely using prayers, because he doesn't answer them, so they double as ammunition) then he lands in heaven, I guess?
ThePublicIsInsane 1 day ago
@stillsavedbyhisgrace - what about what? If what to my evidence, it's comprised from the most intelligent people to ever walk the earth. The literal movers of intelligent civilization. Your evidence is goat herders and incestuous families. If you want powers, stick with Jesus. At rapture you fly into the sky to heaven(don't let the space station hit you in the ass on your way out)
ThePublicIsInsane 1 day ago
Believing in a *God* that spills more blood than the *devil* you all so fear,believing that if you put blind trust into him you will be able to go to a perfect place with no death or fear.Makes perfect sense huh?
Blazeingman 1 day ago
@ThePublicIsInsane Wait...what?
stillsavedbyhisgrace 1 day ago
@stillsavedbyhisgrace -cont- hey at least I have concrete evidence of actual recorded people, from not even that long ago(Davinci) and the photographic proof( Vitruvian man) to support my claims. What do have? Testimonies from people 150 years after the fact and.......that's about it. If you want powers stat with Jesus. At rapture you ascend to heaven. (super, your flying now)
ThePublicIsInsane 1 day ago
@stillsavedbyhisgrace - cont- here's the fascinating part. Davinci noticed something that Pythagoras didn't or at least did not factor into his theory. An eqaulateral triangle, which was the symbol of unity. Happens to be created with the Vitruvian mans legs. All 3 basic shapes of the universe, in perfect allignment with the human body.
ThePublicIsInsane 1 day ago
@ThePublicIsInsane :/
So we are all half god and half man? Do I have kick ass powers I should know about?
stillsavedbyhisgrace 1 day ago
@stillsavedbyhisgrace -cont- many have tried this and failed. Forcing(drawing) a human into these two shapes ended in failure with disproportionate arms or legs. Not until Davinci, who was inspired by Pythagoras, was it attempted and mastered. Davinci was able to see the circle and square and drew them after the human. This is the Vitruvian man, and proof of Zeus.
ThePublicIsInsane 1 day ago
Does god and satan have a contract about hell? LOL. I mean satan would love me in hell if I did bad things right?
cfc19900 1 day ago
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@cfc19900:"I mean satan would love me in hell if I did bad things right?"
Only if you know how to BBQ well
AtheistToothFairy 1 day ago
@stillsavedbyhisgrace - now Pythagoras noticed that numbers not only have quantities but qualities(geometry) and that math is the underlay of the workings of the universe. The symbol of the gods was a circle, the symbol of the titans or mortality, a square. Pythagoras theorized if the symmetry of the body can be aligned inside both a circle and square, that it reveals our two natures and truth of this story. Tbc
ThePublicIsInsane 1 day ago
@stillsavedbyhisgrace - humans were created from the ash of fueding gods. Zeus had a kid(Dionysus) with, not his wive. She got pissed and had the titans kill her, therefore Zeus killed the titans. But Dionysus heart lay in the ash. He created a new dionsysus but the remains were tainted by ask of the titans. Therefore humans were born as a bi product, if you will. I'll get to the proving in a sec...tbc.
ThePublicIsInsane 1 day ago
@ThePublicIsInsane Spit it out, babe. Don't hold back on me now.
stillsavedbyhisgrace 1 day ago
@stillsavedbyhisgrace - I have proof for god, but you might not like it.
ThePublicIsInsane 1 day ago
not in a good way DICK ? HE HE
zxtxa 1 day ago
@dagman36571 Funny you mention economics. One day I woke from a lovely rest...in class!!! The room was empty except for the teacher sitting at his desk smiling at me. He was cute and I...was drooling!(Super good sleep drool) Not good! Lol
As for the mind before body, I can't put a number on it but on the fly I'd say 500 times.
stillsavedbyhisgrace 1 day ago
This is not God. And nothing to laugh at.
prettygirlswag19971 1 day ago
@prettygirlswag19971:"This is not God"
And of course, you must be a True Xtian and therefore know what god really is, right?
AtheistToothFairy 1 day ago
@stillsavedbyhisgrace on the mind waking before the body thing, i have done that 2-3 times. i was in class (macro-economics) had my head in my hands looking at the floor and my body wouldnt do anything i told it.(really boring teacher, mono-toned) every time i could barely see the stairs and it always lookd like he was coming up them lol.
dagman36571 1 day ago
the founders of our country were theists
jwharton000 1 day ago
Praise God lol
jwharton000 1 day ago
you know god doesnt exist truely science proves everything
fordty 1 day ago
@allahbama420 I'll tell ya the whole thing in a pm.
As for what you said, maybe I am privy to a plane that others aren't. I been shot, stabbed and a plethora of other things. I wake up, unable to move because my body isn't awake yet but my mind is...that's a bitch, trust me. My mind thinks it needs air but my body is still in sleep mode. I have to fight and struggle to wake my body up.
stillsavedbyhisgrace 1 day ago
@ThePublicIsInsane Maybe it's your delivery. It didn't come across as fun fact. It came across as "let me explain elementary common sense to you". Know what I mean?
And the whole shootin' match started with you telling me what I experienced was not what I experienced. I do reason in dreams. And you even through in the 'ol "we have to have some level of consciousness, or we'd be dead". Really, I had no idea. :P
stillsavedbyhisgrace 2 days ago
@stillsavedbyhisgrace - "for a fun fact" - not you yelled at me for fun. Fact! Lol which is how I read that from only the "a" missing.
ThePublicIsInsane 2 days ago
@stillsavedbyhisgrace - well forgive for having to explain myself because you yelled at me for fun fact.
ThePublicIsInsane 2 days ago
@ThePublicIsInsane If I did say what happen didn't really happen, I meant the dream compared to reality, in which case your dream didn't actually happen.
Um...the fact that u felt u had to literate that to me...says a lot about why I feel the way I do in our discussions. Do u understand?
stillsavedbyhisgrace 2 days ago
@stillsavedbyhisgrace - where did I say that you weren't lucid dreaming? If I did say what happen didn't really happen, I meant the dream compared to reality, in which case your dream didn't actually happen. Such as if I were to day dream about having 1 mil dollars. In reality it's not truth.
ThePublicIsInsane 2 days ago
@ThePublicIsInsane Destroyer of hope. Lol. Giving yourself a lot of power there huh? What it was is that I commented my experiences and you told me I was wrong. That what had happened to me hadn't happened. Can't you see how that might rub me the wrong way? (Again, not the good kind) lol
stillsavedbyhisgrace 2 days ago
@ThePublicIsInsane Speaking of disorders...please forgive me Pub. You are certainly not innocent but I did heep up some extra crap on ya today.
Sorry bro.
God just graced me with a miracle and...I feel bad for taking some anger out on u. I will concede that I may sometimes read a bit too much into your comments.
stillsavedbyhisgrace 2 days ago
@stillsavedbyhisgrace - "woe is me" doesn't really apply to me considering it's the final breaking point of people turning and begging for god to bail them out, kinda like tebow. - "oh Jesus it's forth quarter and we're losing, please come bail me out." -Suggs. Pretty sure Job got that saying started after god made his life miserable for a gentlemans bet with Satan at the expense of Job. - now that's stupid.
ThePublicIsInsane 2 days ago
@stillsavedbyhisgrace - considering I haven't called you one curse word and you called me a dick a couple times, a dumb fuck, once or twice, and I think some other milder insults, I feel I should be in your shoes with all your anger. I only stated that dreams are just that, dreams. Oh no!!! He's a destroyer of hope. - sure I guess, why not.
ThePublicIsInsane 2 days ago
@ThePublicIsInsane Please don't play stupid.
stillsavedbyhisgrace 2 days ago
@stillsavedbyhisgrace - I feel sorry for you if you think information is an insult.
ThePublicIsInsane 2 days ago
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@ThePublicIsInsane "I feel sorry for you if you think information is an insult."
Most theists think that information is an insult, since information directly contradicts their beliefs. =\
Avicaris 1 day ago
@ThePublicIsInsane (pub) woe is me. I insult people directly and indirectly and they get mad. Poor me. Why? Why great universe created from..um..hang on..(Subject change) soo..anyone seen any good movies. (Grace) I did! (Pub) No. No you didn't. It was most likely a brain malfunction caused by the effect of the lighting on your retinas.
stillsavedbyhisgrace 2 days ago
@stillsavedbyhisgrace - what? I think I would be a dick BECAUSE I speak my mind. And no my first comment to you 4 hours ago was just stating about the brain functions while in REM. I did open with "wanna hear something interesting about dreams" not "grace your dreams are wrong and so are you" just that dreams aren't weird while dreaming due to lack of reason due to lack of activity of the brain while in REM.
ThePublicIsInsane 2 days ago
@ThePublicIsInsane You should stop reading so much into things. And I don't believe you speak your mind else ya wouldn't be such a dick on here. Now, back to topic. U did not nor do u ever approach me in a "hey, by the way, here's some interesting info". All beaver cleaver and shit. You bloviate all over me and not in a good way!!! Dick.
stillsavedbyhisgrace 2 days ago
@stillsavedbyhisgrace -cont- sorry if that's jumbled, losing my train of thought. Preoccupied, I do work full time. But what I meant to say more clearly: I am act no differently in public or with friends than I do here. As for the offending: I don't intend to offend, it happens. I find it amusing because when I find things offensive, people seem to be outrage by my outrage. Oh well, right?!
ThePublicIsInsane 2 days ago
@stillsavedbyhisgrace - well you essentially called me gay, so I had to at least mention it. As for the personality disorder, which one? There are tons. And no, pretty much how I am as I am here in public if on the topic, I'll speak my mind. I'm not out to offend but I find it amusing, when people do. Since when I'm offended I'm not allowed to show the same passion. So I tend to let it slide, I wish people could do that in return.
ThePublicIsInsane 2 days ago
@ThePublicIsInsane Oh geez. Here we go with one of your gay rants. It was only a matter of time. I'm just offering you some handy advice. Decline it if u like. As for your ladies, I'm not buying it. Unless u have a personality disorder and the one u bring here goes bye-bye when u leave...u aint gettin' any. If the latter is true, u should not be taken seriously. So. Which is it. (Sits across from you smiling with chin resting on crossed hands in eager anticipation...)
stillsavedbyhisgrace 2 days ago
@stillsavedbyhisgrace - lol what, his story was steamy. I wasn't getting hot over him but his steamy narration of what happened. I guess woman reading romance novels by other women are an abomination and support the queermosexual agenda. I only wish some of the girls iv slept with were a dream. It's not like I don't have regrets getting busy with certain ladies.
ThePublicIsInsane 2 days ago
@ThePublicIsInsane Ya know how every once in awhile you u carry on about the chics u hook up with? I used to think, ok, I can see it. U come off steamy sometimes. I've now realized there is no way in hell you're getting laid. It's all been a dream, Pub. A lovely little, little, little...dream. :D. Oh and it's gay to tell another dude u got a boner from his story. Just sayin'.
stillsavedbyhisgrace 2 days ago
@stillsavedbyhisgrace - I actually stepped in with "you wanna hear something interesting" and just said that the reasoning part of your brain shuts down that's why weird things don't seem weird in the dream. Soo. Plus "you told me what I thought had happen didn't really happen" - what in your dream? I don't think I said that but I will now. Spoiler alert! What happens in your dreams are not really happening. That's just common sense.
ThePublicIsInsane 2 days ago
@ThePublicIsInsane Are you serious? I'm being punked, right? I commented about my dreams and you came in swinging your monkey around telling me how wrong I was and how what I thought had happened had not actually happened. Lmao! You're such a dick!!!
stillsavedbyhisgrace 2 days ago
@stillsavedbyhisgrace - well then if this is about the symbolism and meanings of dreams then I fail to see how there can be any if you are controlling the course of your own dream. Also I dont understand what you're getting at by saying you can have lucid dreams? I never said youre wrong or didn't have them, I have. I just don't understand what you are supporting with an experience of a lucid dream.
ThePublicIsInsane 2 days ago
@ThePublicIsInsane I'm aware I'm flying, but not questioning it.
Then I guess I'm on another level than you. Pity. You'd enjoy the thrill of being there and knowing it and being aware and making decisions and like I said, riding that edge because you know you're dreaming and you don't want to wake up.
I'll await your response telling me I'm wrong and how the universe is your king. Which reminds me, this isn't about Jesus today. I guess your brain hadn't deduced that yet.
stillsavedbyhisgrace 2 days ago
@stillsavedbyhisgrace - you haven't given me specifically any info or experiences other than your lucid dream and calling what I said bullshit. Even though sleep cycles and what occurs while experiencing them are like psych 101. If your information is Jesus, it doesn't hold much weight in comparison to other religions that teach basically the same morality, only with a different ultimate destination for man kind, which can't be proven. :D
ThePublicIsInsane 2 days ago
@ThePublicIsInsane Read the comments, dick. Start with todays. Dick.
stillsavedbyhisgrace 2 days ago
@stillsavedbyhisgrace - what information do you have and what am I dead wrong about?
ThePublicIsInsane 2 days ago
@ThePublicIsInsane No. Its bullshit because it's coming out of your half cooked brain and you refuse to acknowledge that I have information and knowledge that is valuable and potentially may change your outlook on life and what you've already determined to be cold hard facts, when, in fact, you're dead fucking wrong. Dick.
stillsavedbyhisgrace 2 days ago
@stillsavedbyhisgrace - be honest, is it only bullshit because it doesn't show the world appeasing to the wishes of humans? As if the universe is a result of humans instead of humans being a result of the universe.
ThePublicIsInsane 2 days ago
@ThePublicIsInsane What is this "us"? I'm talking to YOU. I don't have time for YOU and YOUR bullshit. You already know everything anyway. You dumb fuck. And tell your asshole buddies this is between u and me so stay the fuck out of it. You keep telling yourself I live in a dream world and I'll keep growing in leaps and bounds by realizing I don't know everything which allows me to learn every day. Dick.
stillsavedbyhisgrace 2 days ago
@ThePublicIsInsane I've told you my experience. I did not ask for a dissertation on what you fucking think may or may have not happened in my dream!!!! For the love of all things. Oh shit. Fuck you Pub.
stillsavedbyhisgrace 2 days ago
@stillsavedbyhisgrace - lol you don't have enough time for this? You just wanna learn? Learn what exactly? Unless it fits the description of magical thinking or symbolic meanings through interpretations of vague or random experiences, you don't want to hear about it. Sorry that life isn't as romantically poetic as you like to think it is.
ThePublicIsInsane 2 days ago
@stillsavedbyhisgrace - they weren't two separate answers. Just because parts of your brain shut down doesn't mean you lose all consciousness, you obviously have some form of consciousness while dreaming in order to catalog the events, then wake and reflect on them. Because the reasoning part of the brain shuts down, doesn't mean you lose consciousness. Reasoning has nothing to do with awareness. In a dream, I'm aware I'm flying, but not questioning it.
ThePublicIsInsane 2 days ago
@ThePublicIsInsane I honestly don't have time for this. My god is there anyone out there who wants to have a back and forth conversation where we can learn from each other? Get the bouncer and get this know it all fuck out of my face!!!
stillsavedbyhisgrace 2 days ago
@stillsavedbyhisgrace - you're not Leonardo DiCaprio, and this isn't inception. You don't have 100% control while you dream. While you can make choices and perhaps change things around you, you're not voluntarily controlling every little detail. Besides if your controlling the dream, that pretty much means you have no underlying meaning. Which was original point of dreams.
ThePublicIsInsane 2 days ago
@ThePublicIsInsane Well which fucking one is it? Which answer are you going with?
stillsavedbyhisgrace 2 days ago
@stillsavedbyhisgrace - well duuuuurrrrr you can be conscious when you dream, how else would you remember? But parts do shut down. Obviously not the whole brain, that would be death. As for you controlling your dreams very rarely does that happen, UNLESS you do some meditation and preparations like dream journal keeping and mild hypnosis. That's how most people acuire this lucid dreaming skills. But reasoning still Shuts down with rem.
ThePublicIsInsane 2 days ago
@ThePublicIsInsane Actually I have and can be quite aware in my dreams, even causing what I want to happen, to happen. Fully aware that I'm dreaming and riding that careful edge so I don't wake myself fully.
Stick that in your "knowledge" pipe and choke, er...smoke it.
stillsavedbyhisgrace 2 days ago
@stillsavedbyhisgrace - you wanna hear something interesting about dreams? The reasoning part of your brain shuts down in REM sleep. You ever wonder why dreams can be so bizarre but you never realize just how bizarre they are, until you wake up? You never question the oddness while in the dream, only play along until waking. Then when all conciousness returns say to yourself "what an odd dream." - yes it is odd...now that youre awake.
ThePublicIsInsane 2 days ago
@bramak17 - boner city!
ThePublicIsInsane 2 days ago
boring...
35haplo 2 days ago
@35haplo *GASP* theology is boring!?!?!?!?!?
no shit, Sherlock
lewismurray1 2 days ago
Where is God, i want 2 meet him.
4940347 2 days ago
The first wet dream I ever had was fantastique! Oh wow it was really intense. She was dark haired and stripped out of her t-shirt and miniskirt doing the most sensual belly dance. Then she writhed up and down my body stripping off my clothes. Then she squirmed up and down me. Everywhere she touches me instantly becomes lubricated. Her lips graze my ear, her shoulder slides along my cheek, I can smell her everywhere.
We embrace and wrestle at the same time, I desiring to enter her, she playfull
Bramak17 2 days ago
@allahbama420 I've had dreams that were beyond explanation. Last night. It was awful and vivid and I literally remember every step I took and move I made. Now for the assholes who think this message is for anyone but Bama, kiss my ass. I'm not talking to you.
It was the kind that leaves your heart beating and hands trembling.
I still find it unsettling and...just messed up.
stillsavedbyhisgrace 2 days ago
@stillsavedbyhisgrace Are you gonna tell about the dream?
Weird things about dreams - guns don't fire, knives wont penetrate, punches have no power, can never run fast enough, water/ice often, and often it is a struggle/battle/fight.
allahbama420 1 day ago
This is not at all what it would be like
Triggerblame 2 days ago
@AtheistToothFairy you need to is show how 2 souls have met in some virtual dream-scape and exchanged detailed information with each other
I'm gonna say meeting up with each other in a dream is pretty detailed info, yeah?
Have you truly never met with another soul you knew or, perhaps didn't know until the dream?
stillsavedbyhisgrace 2 days ago
@stillsavedbyhisgrace So when I'm dreaming about sex am I having sex with a person that wants to have sex with me? And if this person really doesn't want to have sex in real life am I now violating her soul with my dream?
allahbama420 2 days ago
hey toothfairy ill catch you tomo I love messing around with you atheist
Cenasucks0161 2 days ago
@AtheistToothFairy
You don't watch many nature shows, do you?
I agree with you on this.
Re: Animals and communities.
stillsavedbyhisgrace 2 days ago
@stillsavedbyhisgrace
Well, of COURSE many animals have their own communities, but I guess some ppl don't watch nature much
AtheistToothFairy 2 days ago
@AtheistToothFairy Dreams are NEVER us leaving our bodies to engage other souls
I completely disagree and find your factual interpretation of that statement appalling.
stillsavedbyhisgrace 2 days ago
@stillsavedbyhisgrace:"I completely disagree and find your factual interpretation of that statement appalling."
Fine, then all you need to is show how 2 souls have met in some virtual dream-scape and exchanged detailed information with each other, where no cheating is possible.
CAN DO?
AtheistToothFairy 2 days ago
Wow that has to be literally the dumbest interpretation of Christianity I have ever had the misfortune of seeing... I almost hope you were just trollin instead of actually believing this.... LFIH (losing faith in humanity)
madmaxvoid 2 days ago
born-again Christians come to kill a man that said/// john lennon give peace a chance.stick it up your ppl of god ppl, go and get a jet.
zxtxa 2 days ago
Mark David Chapman had become a born-again Christian in 1970, and was incensed by Lennon's "bigger than Jesus" remark, calling it blasphemy. He later stated he was further enraged by "God", and "Imagine"—even singing the latter with the altered lyric: "Imagine John Lennon dead.John was a ATHEIST All you have to do is look on youtuble and hear "Imagine'and if you do not under stand give a look at the lyrics, Yes he was a spiritual man but far from god.all that he did want was peace!Christian kil
zxtxa 2 days ago
@zxtxa john lennon was not an atheist
allahbama420 2 days ago
@Jonboy176 I'm really gonna need you to let the people I request information from, offer that information. From their own perspective, not yours. Unless...you are them or have absolutely no faith in their ability to debate.
Which is it?
stillsavedbyhisgrace 2 days ago
@stillsavedbyhisgrace You do it all the time, when you stop poking your nose in, so will i, hows that ?
Jonboy176 2 days ago
@Jonbiy176 i'm intrigued
Liar.
stillsavedbyhisgrace 2 days ago
first off im not a follower in faiths. Secondly are you "christians" aware there are other older religions out there that you call fake. lol oh you crazy kids i get such a kick out of you with your oh sooo cute fairy tales :)
jeremyedwardss1081 2 days ago
@AtheistToothFairy What gives you comfort from your fears?
stillsavedbyhisgrace 2 days ago
@stillsavedbyhisgrace Perhaps REAL people, family and friends comfort him, rather than imaginary ones ?
Jonboy176 2 days ago
@Jonboy176 i'm really interested to know
Pfff. Bait and switch con man.
stillsavedbyhisgrace 2 days ago
@ExtantFrodo2 Yes, but what I'm pointing out is that a perfectly happy perfectly healthy optimistic born again christian with a great life and everything going for him can have a stroke and undergo an immediate profound and permanent personality change.
1-Id like to meet this guy, maybe I could pick up some tips from his perfect life. 2-I'm saying that tho they may not be able to communicate as well, how do we know a higher level of awareness has not been attained?
stillsavedbyhisgrace 2 days ago
Ok,
There is nothing wrong with being a Christian.
Believing has to affect.
If I die a christian, and there isn't a heaven, there is no God and we just die and nothing happens, I had nothing to loose believing. Then you were right.
But if I die a christian, I am going to heaven. And if you die a non Christian, the oops, you'd wish you could have just believed
Believing has no harmful affect.
ChandlerTheMouse 2 days ago
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@ChandlerTheMouse Or... you could die a Christian and find out that Allah is really pissed that you did worship him. So pissed in fact that he kicks your ass all the way to Valhalla.
ExtantFrodo2 2 days ago
@ChandlerTheMouse
You really didn't think this ALL THE WAY THROUGH, did you?
AtheistToothFairy 2 days ago
@ChandlerTheMouse What if you die a christian and Islam is correct? Then you would burn in Hell forever. What about Ahura Mazda?
TehFunnehMann 2 days ago
@ChandlerTheMouse This is the cowards way of living. And don't you think an omnitiant god would know that you're only practicing your religion to get into heaven.
MockingVenus 2 days ago
@ChandlerTheMouse What do you think Heaven will be like ?, how do you imagine it ?, i'm really interested to know
Jonboy176 2 days ago
ExtantFrodo2 But that would be mean, so I won't.
Aaaand ya did. Atheist humor really sucks. Anyhoo...the sweet spirit that lives in us has been beat down in many ways less immediately dramatic as a stroke or say a terrible accident causing one to lose the ability to function at what we humans call a normal level...or, do they?
How do you know they have not risen above? Food for thought. ;) You're welcome. Oh and, thanks for not being mean.
stillsavedbyhisgrace 3 days ago
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@stillsavedbyhisgrace "the sweet spirit that lives in us has been beat down in many ways less immediately dramatic as a stroke or say a terrible accident causing one to lose the ability to function at what we humans call a normal level."
Yes, but what I'm pointing out is that a perfectly happy perfectly healthy optimistic born again christian with a great life and everything going for him can have a stroke and undergo an immediate profound and permanent personality change.
ExtantFrodo2 2 days ago
@Jonboy176 Can you prove that? That Jesus is make believe? Oh that's right. Since I can't prove the spaghetti monster doesn't exist...blah, blah, blah.
Two words.
You're wrong.
stillsavedbyhisgrace 3 days ago
@stillsavedbyhisgrace One word.. delusional
Jonboy176 3 days ago
i use to belive in god then i took a arrow to the knee
kingleonholmes 3 days ago
@Cenasucks0161 I like you. I'm interested in your thoughts on spirituality. We can hash it out here or on pm.
stillsavedbyhisgrace 3 days ago
@atheisttoothfairy - not that you could be one of these people. I work full time and do all this by iPhone, but I do get the impression that some people on here are just chillen in front of a screen all day. I get that feel about grace.
ThePublicIsInsane 3 days ago
haha cool one .. long live these fool religious ignorant people !!
pem99304 3 days ago
@RobbeyT.
You take YouTube comments and the bible seriously. I feel sorry for you.
Bramak17 3 days ago
@NWOareScum - new world orders give me a raging 8======D :D
ThePublicIsInsane 3 days ago
@NWOareScum - new world orders give me a raging 8=======D :D
ThePublicIsInsane 3 days ago
hahahaha... and lol @ all the ppl debating. it matters squat what others believe. just live ur life the way u want.
cantforgetthis 3 days ago
the person who made this cvideo is obviously an atheist.
proximaism 3 days ago
@proximaism No, he is a strict documentarian.
ExtantFrodo2 3 days ago
If god exists why was JFK killed why was mj killed
Lonewolfindarkness 3 days ago
I'm sorry, I've only had six bowels tonight.
Bramak17 3 days ago
Anyone who thinks they can convince anyone to believe something else via YouTube comments is retarded.
facelessone1391 3 days ago
@facelessone1391 You're right. You're absolutely right. You've totally convinced me. Now piss off. :-)
ExtantFrodo2 3 days ago
@ExtantFrodo2 0/10 try harder faggot
facelessone1391 3 days ago
@facelessone1391 '' Anyone who thinks they can convince anyone to believe something else via YouTube comments is retarded '', not true, i've had two people tell me that since i pointed out there is no historical evidence for Jesus, the Bible Atrocities ( that their parents and teachers failed to mention ) and the info on Mithra, they've realised the Bible is utter nonsense. It's our duty to help the deluded
Jonboy176 3 days ago
@Jonboy176 And it's also true that one trick is to have multiple YouTube accounts to back up arguments by taking on opposite personas thus giving the illusion of apparent successes on a subject. But you really telling us that you take YouTube comments that seriously?!!
Well, if it makes you feel you're putting the world to rights and that you're doing your duty, that's fine..as long as you're happy. God Bless.
RobbeyT 3 days ago
@RobbeyT Some people, unlike you , actually look up some of the links to information and learn from them, my comments are of no importance if i can't support them with facts, that's all i do, point them to the evidence, and i'm not trying to put the world to rights, just a few deluded creationists.. which god do you want to bless me btw ?, or shall i choose one ?
Jonboy176 3 days ago
@RobbeyT Btw in all your time as a Christian, have you ever once spent time researching any historical factual evidence for the man you claim to be the Son of god..Jesus.. or is it too big a test of your faith ?
Jonboy176 3 days ago
@Jonboy176 My faith is absolute thanks. But you'll never be able to understand why a Christian says "he/she knows Jesus personally".
RobbeyT 3 days ago
@RobbeyT '' But you'll never be able to understand why a christian says he/she knows Jesus personally '', yes i will, he or she is delusional. Your '' personal relationship '' is no more real than that of a 6 year old with an imaginary friend.. god is your comfort blanket and Jesus the dummy/pacifier to help you sleep easy
Jonboy176 3 days ago
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@RobbeyT '' But you'll never be able to understand why a christian says he/she knows Jesus personally '', yes i will, he or she is delusional. Your '' personal relationship '' is no more real than that of a 6 year old with an imaginary friend.. god is your comfort blanket and Jesus the dummy/pacifier to help you sleep easy
Jonboy176 3 days ago
There isn't a human being who should be able to make a judgement on whether or not God exists. It's not even apparent what "reality" is when you consider the concept of sense-data. The passage of time is based entirely on reference frames, which is to say we don't really understand what it means for something to acquire "space".
We know there's something remarkable going on around us, but how it all works is still a mystery. It's remarkable how anyone can claim Christianity is the answer.
WatcherofTrends 3 days ago
No where in the bible does it say you go straight to hell if you don't know or believe in God. Extreme Christians would make it seem that way, but its not. Good men do not go to hell, if you even think there really is a hell.
YouIwillkill 3 days ago