Where does it say in the Quran or in the Hadiths by Muhammad that Jesus lived in India?....Did'nt Muhammad come after Jesus? Love for all hate for none. Confusion for all, substance for none! Also, How much does it cost to be Ahmadi? How much should one pay from salary? Thank you. Peace for all, bollocks info for none!
@SuperCharlie1066 Quran says: "And We made the son of Mary and his mother a SIGN, and gave them REFUGE on an ELEVATED LAND OF GREEN VALLEYS AND SPRINGS OF RUNNING WATER" (23:50/51) Anyone who has visited Kashmir can relate this verse to the green mountains, valleys with running water. Holy Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) said: "Jesus always used to travel; he went from one country to another, and at nightfall wherever he was he used to eat the vegetation of the jungle and to drink pure water."...
...then about Jesus' (pbuh) migration "the Holy Prophet (pbuh) declared that the most favoured in the sight of God are the poor. Asked, what was meant by the poor? Were they the people who, like Jesus the Messiah, fled from their country with their faith?" (Kanzul Ummal). Yes Holy Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) came almost 600 years after Jesus (as) but our belief is that the God who saved Jesus from an accursed death was the same God who revealed its truth to Holy Prophet. Love for all hate for none
@IslamAhmadiya are u forgetting the verse where Allah says he raised jesus to himself theres no mention of him ever returning to earth ..or any hadeeth saying so...where as the hadeeths say he shall return close to the day of judgement and Allah says he shall cum as a sign of the cumming of the hour...its been over a century since ur masiah passed away he cant be a sign
@klashenkoff First of all, when Quran says that Allah raised Jesus to Himself, it does not mean physical ascent. Similar terminology of "Rafa" (raising) has been used in case of Prophet Idris (as) as well in the Quran. Allah says: "and we raised him to a lofty station (Wara'fanahu makanan Aliyya). Does it mean that Idris (as) has also been raised physically to some heaven? It is rather the the spiritual honour and status that Allah talks about when such terminology is used for a human being!
@IslamAhmadiya theres a difference between the 2 verses which is clearly seen ..1 is raised to lofty station (whether it be in this world or the hereafter) and the othe raised upto himself (Allah) so u cant compare the 2 just becouse they mentioned RAISING
...Secondly, there is a hadith in which Holy Prophet (PBUH) said that "Qayamah is as close to me as the two adjacent fingers are to each other." It has been more than 1400 years since Holy Prophet came and we still have not seen the day of Judgement. What do you have to say about that? Holy Prophet mentioned the signs of Qayamah in other ahadith, and any sane, mutaqqee person can already see that those signs are coming true in this age. This is the age of the Messiah and Mahdi and he has come!
@IslamAhmadiya the prophet MUHAMMED (saw) was a minor sign of judgment DAY! after his death the ball started rolling and we have seen all the minor signs come to pass as seen in his hadeeths...now how does ISA (as) become a sign of the hour?? if he came befor the prophet MUHAMMED (saw)? the prophet also mentions that the mahdi shall be from his decendants was mirza a sayyad? NO!! the parents shall share the same names...why ist you ahmadis overlook the rest of the hadeeths?
@klashenkoff I am not talking about minor signs or major signs. Holy Prophet's hadith says that he is as close to the Qaymah as the two adjacent fingers are to each other. That in our own terms means NO TIME? No gap at all. However it has been more than 1400 years since his demise and the world still hasn't seen Qaymah. That shows that in religious spiritual sense, the time that we consider to be hundreds of years has no significance in grand scheme of things...
...Sign of the hour does not necessarily mean Qiyamah. Jesus was the sign of the hour for the Jews as he was last of the Israelite prophets and with his coming, a long chain of Israelite prophets came to an end. Mosaic dispensation also came to an end with Jesus' coming. Next prophet of Allah was Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) who had to come with a perfect teaching and new/perfect Shariah. So he is the sign of the hour for the Jews in that sense...
...Every true follower of Holy Prophet is from his spiritual progeny and this is what Holy Prophet was referring to when he said that Imam Mahdi will be from his Ahl. Quran makes it clear that the one who rejects a true prophet does not remain his ahl even if he belongs to the same blood family. Noah (as)'s son is an example where when his son rejected him, Allah said to Noah that he did not belong to his Ahl...
...as far as the hadith about his parents' names being similar to Holy Prophet's is concerned, you would also recall that according to hadiths the grave of Imam Mahdi had to be INSIDE the grave of Holy Prophet (QABREE is the word used in hadith). Can you even imagine in your wildest dreams that such a blasphemy will ever be committed with the grave of Holy Prophet for the sake of burial of Imam Mahdi? These ahadith have metaphorical significance, one should not take everything literally...
...so when the hadiths say that his name will be like his, his parents' names will be like those of Holy Prophet's parents, it means that the coming of Imam Mahdi will be like the coming of Holy Prophet in this age. Just like a true servant his given the name of his master for his devotion, Imam Mahdi will also get the name of his master because of his devotion as a servant to Holy Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). We don't overlook ahadith, we just understand the wisdom behind his words!
The prophet pbuh himself said that islam will be the largest religion in the world as day of judgement will approach right around the corner. Al mahdi will come to rule on earth for 7 years as a just leader along with the comming of Jesus Christ pbuh. And Allah SWT promised that Islam will never go away instead it will be stronger as a mercy to mankind
@interfc118 Well, the number of years Imam Mahdi was prophecied to remain on earth according to ahadith is a disputed one. One thing that doesn't have any dispute is that with his coming Islam had to be revived again back to its original glory. According to ahadith, Imam Mahdi and Promised Messiah ("Jesus" metaphorically) were only two titles of the same one person. So Imam Mahdi had to come in the likeness and character of Jesus. Jesus of Nazareth is dead like all other past prophets of God!
@IslamAhmadiya im not assuming the prophet would play mind games telling us that a representation of Jesus will come to us through al mahdi. he told us boldly that Jesus will come back and live for 40 years on earth until he dies his natural death. The Quran talks about Jesus not being killed nor crucified. but Ahmadis do believe he was crucified yet did not die which makes it an attempted crucifixion. Doesnt that contradict what the Quran has to tell us?
@interfc118 Well, Quran only rejects the death of Jesus on the cross or his killing by any other method. One is only declared to be "crucified" if one dies on the cross. If an attempt is made but the person survives death on it, he can never be declared as being "crucified". Similarly one can't be declared as being "killed" if the attempt of killing him fails. This is what Quran says. He was neither killed on the cross nor otherwise. How can you rule out natural death later on in his life?
@IslamAhmadiya ok i could take some of that in but even if it was attempted, why do the artifacts show fracture wounds on this guys head and chest and also stab wounds on his wrist i mean there is no way Jesus or anyone would have survived those injuries unless it was a miracle from God. even stabbing through his wrists would have got him killed because thats a common way of suicide and no one could survive that without proffesional medical help which there was obviously none of during the time
@interfc118 Jesus (pbuh) had endured extreme pain during his crucifixion. He however didn't die of his injuries because he was a true prophet of God and beloved of God. He came to pass God's message to his people and that God never let him die an accursed death. Everybody might not survive such an ordeal but God saved him and there were a number of reasons why he survived this death. He was even treated medically by his disciples after coming off the cross. Watch this: /watch?v=EpheodrLqSU
@IslamAhmadiya Ok so if Jesus only had an attempted crucifixion and the Quran say he was neither killed nor crucified, then why are you telling me "He had endured extreme pain during his crucifixion?" The Quran says he wasnt crucified to begin with. Now back to the body shown in the video of the punctured chest and head and u telling me Jesus was not killed because he was a true prophet. look at Yahya who was a true prophet as well and in fact his names mentioned in the Quran, but he was killed
@interfc118 One is only declared to be "crucified", if the attempt to kill him on the cross is successful. If the person is put on the cross and doesn't die of his injuries, you can't call such a person as being "crucified". Similarly, one is only declared to be "killed" if the attempt of murdering him is successful. Quran doesn't deny the attempts that were made for his execution, it only rejects his death as a result of these attempts. Death on cross was declared as accursed by OT itself...
05:35 dimension of the print show turin stroud was tampered with you see no print for side head (not wrapped) meaning it is a frontal projection that could be caused by single fold but then you see parts of body behind the arms meaning either this john doe was a fat Italian or it is a fake print
@izkov Dude first for all i don't care about ahamadiya as historian i know about this person he may be very good man but he used to wonder here there check in wikipedia
@Exposingantiahmadiya First for all 15 days back i didnt know there was religion called ahmadiya. .quran mention about religion islam and the people muslim
@raeeskhan29 Next time when you leave a comment here, please watch your words. Its not difficult for me to remove your comment and even block you if I see such language again towards somebody I believe to be the awaited Imam Mahdi and Promised Messiah from God. Now the purpose of Imam Mahdi was to clean the dirt from the face of Islam that had settled on it over the years because of innovations and misguidance. Ahmadiyya is the true Islam of Holy Prophet in this age in its prestine form.
@IslamAhmadiya what rubbish you are talking about some time you belief that Jesus second coming is already gone .First for for all come to a conclusion what ahamadiya is all about .Please Type in wikipedia ahamadiy either change wikipedia or chnage yourself or try to convince me .Faith becomes stronger when you question it
@raeeskhan29 I think you have some grave misunderstanding about our faith. We believe that Jesus of Nazareth is dead like all other prophets of God. The "Jesus" who was prophecied in the future by Holy Prophet was actually somebody else who had to born in the ummah of Holy Prophet in the likeness of Jesus. If you call somebody a lion for his bravery, it doesn't make such a person literally a lion. So when Muslims of today had to resemble with Jews, remedy had to be in Jesus' likeness!
No more prophecies will come. Jesus will reutrn to earth to fulfill Muhammed SAW's prophecy. Jesus will not bring a prophecy and shariah!
theres the difference!
you claim Mirza came by as a prophet - well it is clearly stated in many hadith's, Quran and throughout Islamic history what fate lies for the these serpents
@The2468appreciate The task of a prophet is to pass his message to his people. According to Quran he was a prophet for the Israelites. If he is not going to bring a prophecy, that means he won't be a prophet anymore. Prophethood is the highest spiritual rank one can attain, and a spiritual rank is taken away by Allah from the ones who commit sins. What was the crime of Jesus that his status would be snatched away from him? Secondly, Holy Prophet himself declared Promised Messiah a prophet.
@IslamAhmadiya Go back to quran first for all if there is a doubt .What kind of islam you are bringing.What your faith is on guessing .As one of hadith between yes and NO there is doubt . your faith is in between yes and no.I will ask you question (auzbillah)If a say earth itself is jannat we were in different world we have passed the judgment of allah and we have been send to jannat that is current earth.Its sound the same as you have answered
@raeeskhan29 I can assure you our faith is not based on guesses. We have found the living God through the blessings of this Jamaat with the grace of Allah. We base our beliefs on Quran and hadith, Quran being the first and ultimate source of guidance and hadith being the second source, provided it doesn't contradict the word of Allah. No where does Allah in the Quran ever barr the coming of ummati prophet for the revival of Islam. To us this belief is against the essence of Islam and Quran.
@IslamAhmadiya You are telling jesus die (auzbillah)Jesus will not come with book our message.Discussion is closed your disbelief is vey strong .0.8% ahamadiya are extra smart than so many mainstream muslim
@raeeskhan29 Truth always prevails. It is not the otherway round. So think again, it might be that my belief is true. We are all Muslims and Allah has given us Quran to settle our issues between us. I am not smarter than other Muslims, it is just that I try to understand the pearls of wisdom in Quran. Other non-Ahmadi Muslims unfortunately are lost in the literal translations and interpretations. Quran is nothing but wisdom, one should try to see beyond the mere stories.
@IslamAhmadiya the logic is very simple.Quran came on arabs so there are very high chances of what they are following traditionally will be approximately right 2)Quran is in Arabic you are urdu speaking guy 3)Same thing happen to shia they language is persian 4)Most indian and pakistani are grave worshipers.Any thing happening from now onwards will happen in Arab penninsula.Imam mahadi will be speaking arabic so how this mirza zahab was born suddenly in pakistan.
@raeeskhan29 1. Speaking the same language doesn't make one right. Jews spoke the langauge of Moses but still God had to send prophets one after the other to bring them back to true Judaism. Quran didn't come for the Arabs but for the whole world anyway. 2. One doesn't have to be an Arab to be following true Islam. Quran is for Hudallil Mutaqeen and not Hudallil Arabiyyeen. 3. Imam Mahdi had to be from non-Arabs (of persian descent) according to hadith 4. Promised Messiah wasn't bon in Pakistan!
@IslamAhmadiya 1) Quran came for whole humanity that the reason you are so called muslim but you failed to understand quran.If you wnat to understand tradition how exactly quran was followed you need to look for saudi arab because quran followers were from there first and traditionally they have kept the sharia alive.Arab is a race u cant be arab .There is not difference between jews and Ahmadiya both are smart and both are corrupted .
@raeeskhan29 There are thousands of Arabs who are Ahmadi Muslims as well? What about them? As far as your comment that the Arabs would have kept the tradition of Islam alive, is concerned, same justification was given by the enemies of Islam 1400 yrs ago. They also thought what their forefathers practiced traditionally was the correct way. Now Holy Prophet put his hands on the shoulders of Salman Al-Farsi (non-Arab) when enquired about the revival of Islam in this age. He had to be from him!
@IslamAhmadiya Dont use hadith that wil be same applicable to you .Just try to think rationally You are not majority ,You are not following tradtiona belive on the land the quran came .You language is urdu.
@raeeskhan29 I am thinking rationally. Firstly, there are Arab Muslims with different denominations completely different "traditions". There are shia Arabs, then there are sunni Arabs. There are then dozens of subsects. Which "traditional Islam" are you talking about that is being followed in the exact same way by all Arabs? Secondly, whre does it say in the Quran that Arabs Muslims will always keep the true traditions of Islam alive? Infact in one verse Quran warns us from following MAJORITY!
No more prophecies will come. Jesus will reutrn to earth to fulfill Muhammed SAW's prophecy. Jesus will not bring a prophecy and shariah!
theres the difference!
you claim Mirza came by as a prophet - well it is clearly stated in many hadith's, Quran and throughout Islamic history what fate lies for the these serpents
@EastManzStow Muslims believe in Holy Prophet Muhammad as the last law bearing prophet. According to the teachings of Islam, God has sent prophets to every nation in every age. Krishna, Buddha, Abraham, Moses, Jesus so on and so forth were all true prophets of God who came for the guidance of their respective peoples at different times in history. As Ahmadi Muslims we believe that the awaited Messiah and Reformer of the latter days who is being awaited by different religions has come already.
@EastManzStow What is it that doesn't make sense to you about Ahmadiyya Jamaat in Islam? To me Ahmadiyya community is the only religious community in the world in this age of today that believes that religion and rationality have to go hand in hand. There can't be any contradiction in the word of God and the work of God. So what exactly is it in Ahmadiyya that you have seen and that doesnt' make sense to you.
This is an important video. It provides significant evidence that Jesus was a man who suffered persecution but he did not die on the cross. The provides testimony to the truth of revelation and reserch made over 110 year ago by Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadian allehisalam that Jesus did not die on the cross and that he was taken down alive. This is a strong evidence that Jesus was a human being who suffered as did many other prophets of Allah. This is also proof of truth of Quran and Islam.
@The2468appreciate : Quran says that Hazrat Eisa died as did other prophets of Allah. All prophets and pious people ascend to heaven spiritually after death. There is nothing in Quran to suggest that Hazrat Eisa rose physically up somewhere in the skies. What ill-feelings you have about the Promised Messiah do not matter. Most unfortunate Christians and jews do not use favourable words about our Holy Prophet sallalao alehe wa sallam. But their ignorance is irrelevant.
@The2468appreciate:Quran says in Surah alMaidah, 5:116, 17 that Hazrat Eisa will say to Alla(on the Day of Judgement that he did not ask his people to make him and his mother as gods and that he was witness over them as long as he was among them. He would further say, "but since Thou did cause me to die Thou hast been the Watcher over them" This verse shows that the Christians have made Jesus as god after his death otherwise Jesus would not say that he knew not what happened after he died.
@The2468appreciate As for your abuses, these are to be ignored as coming from someone ignorant. Our Holy Prophet sallalaho alehe wa sallam suffered much worse abuses from ignorant non-believers who called him "mad man" (Surah Al-Hajr verse, 6 and Surah Momineen: verse 71). Allah asked our Holy Prophet Khatam Nabiyeen sallalaho alehe wa sallam to leave alone the annoyance caused by non-believers. (Surah Al-Ahzab verse 48)
@The2468appreciate lovpeac will answer this allegation himself, but you would remember that Jews also claimed that Jesus (their Messiah) died an accursed death! "Muslims" like yourself today claim that Promised Messiah (likeness of Jesus) also died an accursed death. Both claims of Jews of then and Muslims of today are based on conjecture without any knowledge on the subject. Do you however see your similarity with Jews? It was prophecied by Holy Prophet more than 1400 yrs ago. Keep it up!
@The2468appreciate There is a lot of similarity between all religions in their original form with Islam and not just Judaism. I was referring to the hadith of Holy Prophet in which he resembled the Muslims of today with the JEWS OF THE TIME OF JESUS. So those accusations that Jews put on Jesus then had to be repeated by Muslims against their Messiah in this age. The answer to your "question" is a simple NO. Do you have anything intelligent to discuss or thats not your forte?
@The2468appreciate: This is a false accusation. Produce evidence in support of your shameless LIE. Remember you can never bring any evidence because this is a BLATANT, SHAMELESS, LIE. The opponents of prophets have always been making false accusations to keep people away from true prophets, but they failed always. Allah destroys all their mischiveous designs. Now bring evidence.
I am not a ahmadi.i believe that jesus was saved by the Almighty but he died later and will not return.The quran is clear that there can be no prophet after Muhammad peace be upon him.
You are mistaken my friend. Where in the Holy Qur'an is it mentioned that no prophet can come after Muhammad (saw)? How can it be that Israelites can have many Prophets but no Prophet can come to revive the teachings of Muhammad (saw)? The Holy Prophet (saw) says: "What will be your condition when the son of Mary will descend among you and he will be your Imam from among yourselves." (Bukhari, Kitabul Anbiya, Bab Nazool Isa)
@RehanTanvir First of all there is no mention of jesus returning for the second time in the quran,which is quite strange.the muatta of Imam malik which is the first compiled books of ahadith doesn't mention anything about his second coming.There are other passages in the quran which go against this undestading.i don't know what quran you're talking about chapter 33 verse 40 is categorically clear that there can be no prophet after Muhammad saw.
@THEGREATESTUMMAH Brother, the title used for Holy Prophet (pbuh) in the verse reference you quoted is "Khataman Nabiyyeen" (seal of all prophets). Whenever this term Khatam is used with a plural noun without any qualifying words in between in the Arabic language, never does it mean to say final in absolute chronolgical order. It is always taken in the meaning of "Best" or "Perfect". Holy Prophet certainly is the last law bearing prophet, but to say that even subordinate prophets can't come...
now until the doomsday is not only extremely illogical, irrational but also something that is against the teachings of Quran. Quran actually abhors the attitude of those who say that no prophet can be born now and calls them transgressors.
@THEGREATESTUMMAH Allah, the Exalted, says, "And there is none of the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) but must believe in him (Jesus son of Mary as a Messenger of Allah and a human being) before his death. And on the Day of Resurrection, he will be a witness against them." [an-Nisaa’ 4:159]
@The2468appreciate You have completely misunderstood this verse. Had this meant what you have just said, then what about the millions of Jews and Christians (people of the book) who have already passed away awithout believing Jesus being only messenger of Allah and that he was only a human being? According to your translation of the verse, there is none among them who would believe in Jesus' reality before their death?
Allah, the Exalted, says in it, "And when the son of Mary is quoted as an example (i.e. Jesus worshipped like their idols), behold, your people cry aloud (laugh out at the example). And say: Are our gods better or is he (i.e. Jesus)? They quoted not the above example except for argument. Nay! But they are a quarrelsome people.....
He (i.e. Jesus) was not more than a slave. We granted Our Favor to him, and We made him an example for the Children of Israel (i.e. his creation without a father). And if it were Our Will, We would have (destroyed you all, and) made angels to replace you on the earth. And he (i.e. Jesus) shall be a known sign for (the coming of) the Hour (i.e. Day of Resurrection). Therefore have no doubt concerning it. And follow Me (i.e. Allah)! This is the Straight Path." [az-Zukhruf 43:57-61].
@The2468appreciate Once again you have misunderstood the verse. He was the sign of the hour (saa'ah) for the Jews. He was the last of the Jewish prophets and Mosaic despensation came to an end with his coming. So Quran is making clear that he was a prophet for the Bani Israel alone and that he was no more than a human (humans don't fly). He was the sign of the hour for the Jews as after him new and ultimate shariah of Holy Prophet took over the favours of God.
No more prophecies will come. Jesus will reutrn to earth to fulfill Muhammed SAW's prophecy. Jesus will not bring a prophecy and shariah!
theres the difference!
you claim Mirza came by as a prophet - well it is clearly stated in many hadith's, Quran and throughout Islamic history what fate lies for the these serpents
He never died, and therefore is still alive. It says in the Quran, that the Jews claim:
“We killed Jesus Christ, the son of Mary, Messenger of God.”
However, God denies this, as the verse continues:
“But they killed him not, nor crucified him; It was only a likeness shown to them: Most certainly they killed him not. Rather, God lifted him up to Himself.” (Quran 4:157-8)
@The2468appreciate Jews wanted to see Jesus die an accursed death on the cross. Allah only makes it clear here that they certainly weren't successful in their attempt. God saved him from this accursed death. They wanted to see him die an accursed death, while God raised him (ie. his honour and his status), it were the enemies instead who were accursed. There is nothing to suggest here that he was physically lifted upto some place in the skies. The raising is only in status and honour.
All praise is to Allah alone, Jesus(as) of Nazareth survived the crucifixion, and went on to fulfill his prophecy. This was to find the "lost sheep" of Israel. He was the Messiah, if he had died on the cross, or being raised up to the heaven, as most of our Muslim brothers claim, he had indeed been, according to them; (god forbid) a false Messiah. May Allah guide humanity to the right path.
Where does it say in the Quran or in the Hadiths by Muhammad that Jesus lived in India?....Did'nt Muhammad come after Jesus? Love for all hate for none. Confusion for all, substance for none! Also, How much does it cost to be Ahmadi? How much should one pay from salary? Thank you. Peace for all, bollocks info for none!
SuperCharlie1066 6 months ago
@SuperCharlie1066 Quran says: "And We made the son of Mary and his mother a SIGN, and gave them REFUGE on an ELEVATED LAND OF GREEN VALLEYS AND SPRINGS OF RUNNING WATER" (23:50/51) Anyone who has visited Kashmir can relate this verse to the green mountains, valleys with running water. Holy Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) said: "Jesus always used to travel; he went from one country to another, and at nightfall wherever he was he used to eat the vegetation of the jungle and to drink pure water."...
IslamAhmadiya 5 months ago
...then about Jesus' (pbuh) migration "the Holy Prophet (pbuh) declared that the most favoured in the sight of God are the poor. Asked, what was meant by the poor? Were they the people who, like Jesus the Messiah, fled from their country with their faith?" (Kanzul Ummal). Yes Holy Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) came almost 600 years after Jesus (as) but our belief is that the God who saved Jesus from an accursed death was the same God who revealed its truth to Holy Prophet. Love for all hate for none
IslamAhmadiya 5 months ago
@IslamAhmadiya are u forgetting the verse where Allah says he raised jesus to himself theres no mention of him ever returning to earth ..or any hadeeth saying so...where as the hadeeths say he shall return close to the day of judgement and Allah says he shall cum as a sign of the cumming of the hour...its been over a century since ur masiah passed away he cant be a sign
klashenkoff 3 months ago
@klashenkoff First of all, when Quran says that Allah raised Jesus to Himself, it does not mean physical ascent. Similar terminology of "Rafa" (raising) has been used in case of Prophet Idris (as) as well in the Quran. Allah says: "and we raised him to a lofty station (Wara'fanahu makanan Aliyya). Does it mean that Idris (as) has also been raised physically to some heaven? It is rather the the spiritual honour and status that Allah talks about when such terminology is used for a human being!
IslamAhmadiya 3 months ago
@IslamAhmadiya theres a difference between the 2 verses which is clearly seen ..1 is raised to lofty station (whether it be in this world or the hereafter) and the othe raised upto himself (Allah) so u cant compare the 2 just becouse they mentioned RAISING
klashenkoff 2 months ago
...Secondly, there is a hadith in which Holy Prophet (PBUH) said that "Qayamah is as close to me as the two adjacent fingers are to each other." It has been more than 1400 years since Holy Prophet came and we still have not seen the day of Judgement. What do you have to say about that? Holy Prophet mentioned the signs of Qayamah in other ahadith, and any sane, mutaqqee person can already see that those signs are coming true in this age. This is the age of the Messiah and Mahdi and he has come!
IslamAhmadiya 3 months ago
@IslamAhmadiya the prophet MUHAMMED (saw) was a minor sign of judgment DAY! after his death the ball started rolling and we have seen all the minor signs come to pass as seen in his hadeeths...now how does ISA (as) become a sign of the hour?? if he came befor the prophet MUHAMMED (saw)? the prophet also mentions that the mahdi shall be from his decendants was mirza a sayyad? NO!! the parents shall share the same names...why ist you ahmadis overlook the rest of the hadeeths?
klashenkoff 2 months ago
@klashenkoff I am not talking about minor signs or major signs. Holy Prophet's hadith says that he is as close to the Qaymah as the two adjacent fingers are to each other. That in our own terms means NO TIME? No gap at all. However it has been more than 1400 years since his demise and the world still hasn't seen Qaymah. That shows that in religious spiritual sense, the time that we consider to be hundreds of years has no significance in grand scheme of things...
IslamAhmadiya 2 months ago
...Sign of the hour does not necessarily mean Qiyamah. Jesus was the sign of the hour for the Jews as he was last of the Israelite prophets and with his coming, a long chain of Israelite prophets came to an end. Mosaic dispensation also came to an end with Jesus' coming. Next prophet of Allah was Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) who had to come with a perfect teaching and new/perfect Shariah. So he is the sign of the hour for the Jews in that sense...
IslamAhmadiya 2 months ago
...Every true follower of Holy Prophet is from his spiritual progeny and this is what Holy Prophet was referring to when he said that Imam Mahdi will be from his Ahl. Quran makes it clear that the one who rejects a true prophet does not remain his ahl even if he belongs to the same blood family. Noah (as)'s son is an example where when his son rejected him, Allah said to Noah that he did not belong to his Ahl...
IslamAhmadiya 2 months ago
...as far as the hadith about his parents' names being similar to Holy Prophet's is concerned, you would also recall that according to hadiths the grave of Imam Mahdi had to be INSIDE the grave of Holy Prophet (QABREE is the word used in hadith). Can you even imagine in your wildest dreams that such a blasphemy will ever be committed with the grave of Holy Prophet for the sake of burial of Imam Mahdi? These ahadith have metaphorical significance, one should not take everything literally...
IslamAhmadiya 2 months ago
...so when the hadiths say that his name will be like his, his parents' names will be like those of Holy Prophet's parents, it means that the coming of Imam Mahdi will be like the coming of Holy Prophet in this age. Just like a true servant his given the name of his master for his devotion, Imam Mahdi will also get the name of his master because of his devotion as a servant to Holy Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). We don't overlook ahadith, we just understand the wisdom behind his words!
IslamAhmadiya 2 months ago
this is the stupidity of Ahmadiyat hahaha, just waiting time
janogerman01 8 months ago
i love the shroud of turin =)
galgadott 1 year ago
The prophet pbuh himself said that islam will be the largest religion in the world as day of judgement will approach right around the corner. Al mahdi will come to rule on earth for 7 years as a just leader along with the comming of Jesus Christ pbuh. And Allah SWT promised that Islam will never go away instead it will be stronger as a mercy to mankind
interfc118 1 year ago
@interfc118 Well, the number of years Imam Mahdi was prophecied to remain on earth according to ahadith is a disputed one. One thing that doesn't have any dispute is that with his coming Islam had to be revived again back to its original glory. According to ahadith, Imam Mahdi and Promised Messiah ("Jesus" metaphorically) were only two titles of the same one person. So Imam Mahdi had to come in the likeness and character of Jesus. Jesus of Nazareth is dead like all other past prophets of God!
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
@IslamAhmadiya im not assuming the prophet would play mind games telling us that a representation of Jesus will come to us through al mahdi. he told us boldly that Jesus will come back and live for 40 years on earth until he dies his natural death. The Quran talks about Jesus not being killed nor crucified. but Ahmadis do believe he was crucified yet did not die which makes it an attempted crucifixion. Doesnt that contradict what the Quran has to tell us?
interfc118 1 year ago
@interfc118 Well, Quran only rejects the death of Jesus on the cross or his killing by any other method. One is only declared to be "crucified" if one dies on the cross. If an attempt is made but the person survives death on it, he can never be declared as being "crucified". Similarly one can't be declared as being "killed" if the attempt of killing him fails. This is what Quran says. He was neither killed on the cross nor otherwise. How can you rule out natural death later on in his life?
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
@IslamAhmadiya ok i could take some of that in but even if it was attempted, why do the artifacts show fracture wounds on this guys head and chest and also stab wounds on his wrist i mean there is no way Jesus or anyone would have survived those injuries unless it was a miracle from God. even stabbing through his wrists would have got him killed because thats a common way of suicide and no one could survive that without proffesional medical help which there was obviously none of during the time
interfc118 1 year ago
@interfc118 Jesus (pbuh) had endured extreme pain during his crucifixion. He however didn't die of his injuries because he was a true prophet of God and beloved of God. He came to pass God's message to his people and that God never let him die an accursed death. Everybody might not survive such an ordeal but God saved him and there were a number of reasons why he survived this death. He was even treated medically by his disciples after coming off the cross. Watch this: /watch?v=EpheodrLqSU
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
@IslamAhmadiya Ok so if Jesus only had an attempted crucifixion and the Quran say he was neither killed nor crucified, then why are you telling me "He had endured extreme pain during his crucifixion?" The Quran says he wasnt crucified to begin with. Now back to the body shown in the video of the punctured chest and head and u telling me Jesus was not killed because he was a true prophet. look at Yahya who was a true prophet as well and in fact his names mentioned in the Quran, but he was killed
interfc118 1 year ago
@interfc118 One is only declared to be "crucified", if the attempt to kill him on the cross is successful. If the person is put on the cross and doesn't die of his injuries, you can't call such a person as being "crucified". Similarly, one is only declared to be "killed" if the attempt of murdering him is successful. Quran doesn't deny the attempts that were made for his execution, it only rejects his death as a result of these attempts. Death on cross was declared as accursed by OT itself...
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
...Does Quran mention Yahya's (as) killing? We can not be sure about that issue. Now Quran and hadiths both indicate Jesus' migration.
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
05:35 dimension of the print show turin stroud was tampered with you see no print for side head (not wrapped) meaning it is a frontal projection that could be caused by single fold but then you see parts of body behind the arms meaning either this john doe was a fat Italian or it is a fake print
okuma0kuma 1 year ago
reali good vd.!
mankylook 1 year ago
Very good video.
incredibleahmadiyya 1 year ago
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Mirza gulam ahamad was such a ediot person. He has change the faith of people.
raeeskhan29 1 year ago
@raeeskhan29 Truth is always bitter.
izkov 1 year ago
@izkov Dude first for all i don't care about ahamadiya as historian i know about this person he may be very good man but he used to wonder here there check in wikipedia
raeeskhan29 1 year ago
@raeeskhan29 lol wikipedia is your source? now we know what kind scholor you are lol.
Exposingantiahmadiya 1 year ago
@Exposingantiahmadiya First for all 15 days back i didnt know there was religion called ahmadiya. .quran mention about religion islam and the people muslim
raeeskhan29 1 year ago
@raeeskhan29 Next time when you leave a comment here, please watch your words. Its not difficult for me to remove your comment and even block you if I see such language again towards somebody I believe to be the awaited Imam Mahdi and Promised Messiah from God. Now the purpose of Imam Mahdi was to clean the dirt from the face of Islam that had settled on it over the years because of innovations and misguidance. Ahmadiyya is the true Islam of Holy Prophet in this age in its prestine form.
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
@IslamAhmadiya what rubbish you are talking about some time you belief that Jesus second coming is already gone .First for for all come to a conclusion what ahamadiya is all about .Please Type in wikipedia ahamadiy either change wikipedia or chnage yourself or try to convince me .Faith becomes stronger when you question it
raeeskhan29 1 year ago
@raeeskhan29 I think you have some grave misunderstanding about our faith. We believe that Jesus of Nazareth is dead like all other prophets of God. The "Jesus" who was prophecied in the future by Holy Prophet was actually somebody else who had to born in the ummah of Holy Prophet in the likeness of Jesus. If you call somebody a lion for his bravery, it doesn't make such a person literally a lion. So when Muslims of today had to resemble with Jews, remedy had to be in Jesus' likeness!
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
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@IslamAhmadiya INCORRECT
No more prophecies will come. Jesus will reutrn to earth to fulfill Muhammed SAW's prophecy. Jesus will not bring a prophecy and shariah!
theres the difference!
you claim Mirza came by as a prophet - well it is clearly stated in many hadith's, Quran and throughout Islamic history what fate lies for the these serpents
The2468appreciate 1 year ago
@The2468appreciate The task of a prophet is to pass his message to his people. According to Quran he was a prophet for the Israelites. If he is not going to bring a prophecy, that means he won't be a prophet anymore. Prophethood is the highest spiritual rank one can attain, and a spiritual rank is taken away by Allah from the ones who commit sins. What was the crime of Jesus that his status would be snatched away from him? Secondly, Holy Prophet himself declared Promised Messiah a prophet.
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
@IslamAhmadiya Go back to quran first for all if there is a doubt .What kind of islam you are bringing.What your faith is on guessing .As one of hadith between yes and NO there is doubt . your faith is in between yes and no.I will ask you question (auzbillah)If a say earth itself is jannat we were in different world we have passed the judgment of allah and we have been send to jannat that is current earth.Its sound the same as you have answered
raeeskhan29 1 year ago
@raeeskhan29 I can assure you our faith is not based on guesses. We have found the living God through the blessings of this Jamaat with the grace of Allah. We base our beliefs on Quran and hadith, Quran being the first and ultimate source of guidance and hadith being the second source, provided it doesn't contradict the word of Allah. No where does Allah in the Quran ever barr the coming of ummati prophet for the revival of Islam. To us this belief is against the essence of Islam and Quran.
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
@IslamAhmadiya You are telling jesus die (auzbillah)Jesus will not come with book our message.Discussion is closed your disbelief is vey strong .0.8% ahamadiya are extra smart than so many mainstream muslim
raeeskhan29 1 year ago
@raeeskhan29 Truth always prevails. It is not the otherway round. So think again, it might be that my belief is true. We are all Muslims and Allah has given us Quran to settle our issues between us. I am not smarter than other Muslims, it is just that I try to understand the pearls of wisdom in Quran. Other non-Ahmadi Muslims unfortunately are lost in the literal translations and interpretations. Quran is nothing but wisdom, one should try to see beyond the mere stories.
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
@IslamAhmadiya the logic is very simple.Quran came on arabs so there are very high chances of what they are following traditionally will be approximately right 2)Quran is in Arabic you are urdu speaking guy 3)Same thing happen to shia they language is persian 4)Most indian and pakistani are grave worshipers.Any thing happening from now onwards will happen in Arab penninsula.Imam mahadi will be speaking arabic so how this mirza zahab was born suddenly in pakistan.
raeeskhan29 1 year ago
@raeeskhan29 1. Speaking the same language doesn't make one right. Jews spoke the langauge of Moses but still God had to send prophets one after the other to bring them back to true Judaism. Quran didn't come for the Arabs but for the whole world anyway. 2. One doesn't have to be an Arab to be following true Islam. Quran is for Hudallil Mutaqeen and not Hudallil Arabiyyeen. 3. Imam Mahdi had to be from non-Arabs (of persian descent) according to hadith 4. Promised Messiah wasn't bon in Pakistan!
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
@IslamAhmadiya 1) Quran came for whole humanity that the reason you are so called muslim but you failed to understand quran.If you wnat to understand tradition how exactly quran was followed you need to look for saudi arab because quran followers were from there first and traditionally they have kept the sharia alive.Arab is a race u cant be arab .There is not difference between jews and Ahmadiya both are smart and both are corrupted .
raeeskhan29 1 year ago
@raeeskhan29 There are thousands of Arabs who are Ahmadi Muslims as well? What about them? As far as your comment that the Arabs would have kept the tradition of Islam alive, is concerned, same justification was given by the enemies of Islam 1400 yrs ago. They also thought what their forefathers practiced traditionally was the correct way. Now Holy Prophet put his hands on the shoulders of Salman Al-Farsi (non-Arab) when enquired about the revival of Islam in this age. He had to be from him!
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
@IslamAhmadiya Dont use hadith that wil be same applicable to you .Just try to think rationally You are not majority ,You are not following tradtiona belive on the land the quran came .You language is urdu.
raeeskhan29 1 year ago
@raeeskhan29 I am thinking rationally. Firstly, there are Arab Muslims with different denominations completely different "traditions". There are shia Arabs, then there are sunni Arabs. There are then dozens of subsects. Which "traditional Islam" are you talking about that is being followed in the exact same way by all Arabs? Secondly, whre does it say in the Quran that Arabs Muslims will always keep the true traditions of Islam alive? Infact in one verse Quran warns us from following MAJORITY!
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
@raeeskhan29 INCORRECT
No more prophecies will come. Jesus will reutrn to earth to fulfill Muhammed SAW's prophecy. Jesus will not bring a prophecy and shariah!
theres the difference!
you claim Mirza came by as a prophet - well it is clearly stated in many hadith's, Quran and throughout Islamic history what fate lies for the these serpents
The2468appreciate 1 year ago
@IslamAhmadiya How come? I'm nt muslim but my understanding is that muslims believe in muhamed
EastManzStow 1 year ago
@EastManzStow Muslims believe in Holy Prophet Muhammad as the last law bearing prophet. According to the teachings of Islam, God has sent prophets to every nation in every age. Krishna, Buddha, Abraham, Moses, Jesus so on and so forth were all true prophets of God who came for the guidance of their respective peoples at different times in history. As Ahmadi Muslims we believe that the awaited Messiah and Reformer of the latter days who is being awaited by different religions has come already.
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
@IslamAhmadiya I don't know. I done some research on this sect. And compared it to what these ....ermmm....well normal muslims say.
to be frank brother this amadi doesnt make sense. but thats just me from an outside view.
When incarcerated I looked into muslim religion. And den i came across this.
Y'all confused the whole thing
lemme try and understand this more
EastManzStow 1 year ago
@EastManzStow What is it that doesn't make sense to you about Ahmadiyya Jamaat in Islam? To me Ahmadiyya community is the only religious community in the world in this age of today that believes that religion and rationality have to go hand in hand. There can't be any contradiction in the word of God and the work of God. So what exactly is it in Ahmadiyya that you have seen and that doesnt' make sense to you.
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
@EastManzStow Watch this documentary to get a small glimpse about what Ahmadiyya Jamaat in Islam is: /watch?v=lWVqtk_pkLI
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
This is an important video. It provides significant evidence that Jesus was a man who suffered persecution but he did not die on the cross. The provides testimony to the truth of revelation and reserch made over 110 year ago by Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadian allehisalam that Jesus did not die on the cross and that he was taken down alive. This is a strong evidence that Jesus was a human being who suffered as did many other prophets of Allah. This is also proof of truth of Quran and Islam.
lovpeac 1 year ago
@lovpeac
NO - Hazrat Isa AH was acsended into the heavens. The proof is in the Quran. Read before you make naieve and childish comments.
and Mirza was a naieve serpent who will be burning in the hell fire for claiming what he has
The2468appreciate 1 year ago
@The2468appreciate : Quran says that Hazrat Eisa died as did other prophets of Allah. All prophets and pious people ascend to heaven spiritually after death. There is nothing in Quran to suggest that Hazrat Eisa rose physically up somewhere in the skies. What ill-feelings you have about the Promised Messiah do not matter. Most unfortunate Christians and jews do not use favourable words about our Holy Prophet sallalao alehe wa sallam. But their ignorance is irrelevant.
lovpeac 1 year ago
@The2468appreciate:Quran says in Surah alMaidah, 5:116, 17 that Hazrat Eisa will say to Alla(on the Day of Judgement that he did not ask his people to make him and his mother as gods and that he was witness over them as long as he was among them. He would further say, "but since Thou did cause me to die Thou hast been the Watcher over them" This verse shows that the Christians have made Jesus as god after his death otherwise Jesus would not say that he knew not what happened after he died.
lovpeac 1 year ago
@The2468appreciate As for your abuses, these are to be ignored as coming from someone ignorant. Our Holy Prophet sallalaho alehe wa sallam suffered much worse abuses from ignorant non-believers who called him "mad man" (Surah Al-Hajr verse, 6 and Surah Momineen: verse 71). Allah asked our Holy Prophet Khatam Nabiyeen sallalaho alehe wa sallam to leave alone the annoyance caused by non-believers. (Surah Al-Ahzab verse 48)
lovpeac 1 year ago
@lovpeac
Listen you know the consequence of false prophecy - its no wonder your Mirza cnut died in his own feaces!
The2468appreciate 1 year ago
@The2468appreciate lovpeac will answer this allegation himself, but you would remember that Jews also claimed that Jesus (their Messiah) died an accursed death! "Muslims" like yourself today claim that Promised Messiah (likeness of Jesus) also died an accursed death. Both claims of Jews of then and Muslims of today are based on conjecture without any knowledge on the subject. Do you however see your similarity with Jews? It was prophecied by Holy Prophet more than 1400 yrs ago. Keep it up!
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
@IslamAhmadiya He did as the prphets before him - meaning their aim and objective was the same.
And there is alot of similarity with Judaism and Islam - but major differences as well
but answer me - did or did not your so called messiah die in his feaces???
The2468appreciate 1 year ago
@The2468appreciate There is a lot of similarity between all religions in their original form with Islam and not just Judaism. I was referring to the hadith of Holy Prophet in which he resembled the Muslims of today with the JEWS OF THE TIME OF JESUS. So those accusations that Jews put on Jesus then had to be repeated by Muslims against their Messiah in this age. The answer to your "question" is a simple NO. Do you have anything intelligent to discuss or thats not your forte?
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
@The2468appreciate: This is a false accusation. Produce evidence in support of your shameless LIE. Remember you can never bring any evidence because this is a BLATANT, SHAMELESS, LIE. The opponents of prophets have always been making false accusations to keep people away from true prophets, but they failed always. Allah destroys all their mischiveous designs. Now bring evidence.
lovpeac 1 year ago
I am not a ahmadi.i believe that jesus was saved by the Almighty but he died later and will not return.The quran is clear that there can be no prophet after Muhammad peace be upon him.
THEGREATESTUMMAH 1 year ago
@THEGREATESTUMMAH
You are mistaken my friend. Where in the Holy Qur'an is it mentioned that no prophet can come after Muhammad (saw)? How can it be that Israelites can have many Prophets but no Prophet can come to revive the teachings of Muhammad (saw)? The Holy Prophet (saw) says: "What will be your condition when the son of Mary will descend among you and he will be your Imam from among yourselves." (Bukhari, Kitabul Anbiya, Bab Nazool Isa)
RehanTanvir 1 year ago
@RehanTanvir First of all there is no mention of jesus returning for the second time in the quran,which is quite strange.the muatta of Imam malik which is the first compiled books of ahadith doesn't mention anything about his second coming.There are other passages in the quran which go against this undestading.i don't know what quran you're talking about chapter 33 verse 40 is categorically clear that there can be no prophet after Muhammad saw.
THEGREATESTUMMAH 1 year ago
@THEGREATESTUMMAH Brother, the title used for Holy Prophet (pbuh) in the verse reference you quoted is "Khataman Nabiyyeen" (seal of all prophets). Whenever this term Khatam is used with a plural noun without any qualifying words in between in the Arabic language, never does it mean to say final in absolute chronolgical order. It is always taken in the meaning of "Best" or "Perfect". Holy Prophet certainly is the last law bearing prophet, but to say that even subordinate prophets can't come...
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
now until the doomsday is not only extremely illogical, irrational but also something that is against the teachings of Quran. Quran actually abhors the attitude of those who say that no prophet can be born now and calls them transgressors.
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
@THEGREATESTUMMAH
The reason Imam Malik may not have mentioned anything regarding the second
coming of Jesus (as) is because his book is considered to be a book of
jurisprudence.But why limit yourself to a particular person? Among the 6
authetic books is Ibn-i-Majah. Huzoor (saw) at the death of Hazrat Ibrahim
says, "...had he lived he would have been a true prophet.....’ (Ibn-i-
Majah-Kitab Al Janaiz).
RehanTanvir 1 year ago
@THEGREATESTUMMAH
If the door to prophethood had been closed then why
would Huzoor (saw) make such a statement against Gods command? This makes it clear that Huzoor (saw) did believe in the continuity of Prophethood. As
for the verse you have mentioned. How does that even remotely prove that
Prophethood has ceased. The verse is nothing but a compliment to the Holy Prophet (saw) as 'IslamAhmadiyy' has rightly put it.
RehanTanvir 1 year ago
@THEGREATESTUMMAH Allah, the Exalted, says, "And there is none of the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) but must believe in him (Jesus son of Mary as a Messenger of Allah and a human being) before his death. And on the Day of Resurrection, he will be a witness against them." [an-Nisaa’ 4:159]
The2468appreciate 1 year ago
@The2468appreciate You have completely misunderstood this verse. Had this meant what you have just said, then what about the millions of Jews and Christians (people of the book) who have already passed away awithout believing Jesus being only messenger of Allah and that he was only a human being? According to your translation of the verse, there is none among them who would believe in Jesus' reality before their death?
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
Allah, the Exalted, says in it, "And when the son of Mary is quoted as an example (i.e. Jesus worshipped like their idols), behold, your people cry aloud (laugh out at the example). And say: Are our gods better or is he (i.e. Jesus)? They quoted not the above example except for argument. Nay! But they are a quarrelsome people.....
The2468appreciate 1 year ago
He (i.e. Jesus) was not more than a slave. We granted Our Favor to him, and We made him an example for the Children of Israel (i.e. his creation without a father). And if it were Our Will, We would have (destroyed you all, and) made angels to replace you on the earth. And he (i.e. Jesus) shall be a known sign for (the coming of) the Hour (i.e. Day of Resurrection). Therefore have no doubt concerning it. And follow Me (i.e. Allah)! This is the Straight Path." [az-Zukhruf 43:57-61].
The2468appreciate 1 year ago
@The2468appreciate Once again you have misunderstood the verse. He was the sign of the hour (saa'ah) for the Jews. He was the last of the Jewish prophets and Mosaic despensation came to an end with his coming. So Quran is making clear that he was a prophet for the Bani Israel alone and that he was no more than a human (humans don't fly). He was the sign of the hour for the Jews as after him new and ultimate shariah of Holy Prophet took over the favours of God.
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
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@THEGREATESTUMMAH INCORRECT
No more prophecies will come. Jesus will reutrn to earth to fulfill Muhammed SAW's prophecy. Jesus will not bring a prophecy and shariah!
theres the difference!
you claim Mirza came by as a prophet - well it is clearly stated in many hadith's, Quran and throughout Islamic history what fate lies for the these serpents
The2468appreciate 1 year ago
@THEGREATESTUMMAH
He never died, and therefore is still alive. It says in the Quran, that the Jews claim:
“We killed Jesus Christ, the son of Mary, Messenger of God.”
However, God denies this, as the verse continues:
“But they killed him not, nor crucified him; It was only a likeness shown to them: Most certainly they killed him not. Rather, God lifted him up to Himself.” (Quran 4:157-8)
The2468appreciate 1 year ago
@The2468appreciate Jews wanted to see Jesus die an accursed death on the cross. Allah only makes it clear here that they certainly weren't successful in their attempt. God saved him from this accursed death. They wanted to see him die an accursed death, while God raised him (ie. his honour and his status), it were the enemies instead who were accursed. There is nothing to suggest here that he was physically lifted upto some place in the skies. The raising is only in status and honour.
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
All praise is to Allah alone, Jesus(as) of Nazareth survived the crucifixion, and went on to fulfill his prophecy. This was to find the "lost sheep" of Israel. He was the Messiah, if he had died on the cross, or being raised up to the heaven, as most of our Muslim brothers claim, he had indeed been, according to them; (god forbid) a false Messiah. May Allah guide humanity to the right path.
donshery 1 year ago