Agree I'm Swedish and we have about 600 soldiers over there just 6.7 deaths and 40 injuries in 10 years. , But I fear that there is a new Vietnam no one really knows what the fighting before they start shooting.!
I have always supported U.S. troops but here in Sweden we begin to get tired of shit over there. and we are not even involved in the war and not you either, the lucid terrorists are in Pakistan and Saudi Arabia! Bush has deceived you, just as Kennedy did, Vietnam
Let's bring our soldiers back home from Afghanistan. This war on terror cannot be won through conventional means, so let's be unconventional!
Let's send our brightest American superheroes around the world to chase down those Al Qaeda criminals. The CIA and special forces can track them down and put them behind bars where they belong.
Have you ever sent an elephant to catch a mouse? Doesn't work. Send a cat instead. Send a small, stealthy, brilliant team with claws.
The lives of Afghanistan's citizens are sacred. Why must we invade their country and disrupt their lives? Why can't we just leave them alone? They didn't do anything wrong! Al Qaeda isn't even in Afghanistan.
When will America learn to "love thy neighbor"? Soon, I hope, for everyone's sake.
Continued from below _ Please do not be complacent, let your voice be heard and demand from your government representatives to do what is right, if not, lets voting them out of office IMMEDIATELY and start infusing funds into OUR country's recovery, education, infrastructure, health.
This war is costing BILLIONS EVERY MONTH to the American tax payers. The military industrial complex, the corporations benefiting from the wars do not want this to end and we will continue to be told that this is a necessary war. Our once mighty and robust country is in a down spiral in big part because of the huge cost the war infringes. Please do not be complacent, let your voice be heard and demand from your government representatives to do what is right, if not, lets vote them out of office
As I watched the destroyed towers in Lebanon, it occurred to me punish the unjust the same way (and) to destroy towers in America so it could taste some of what we are tasting and to stop killing our children and women."
"Allah knows it did not cross our minds to attack the towers but after the situation became unbearable and we witnessed the injustice and tyranny of the American-Israeli alliance against our people in Palestine and Lebanon, I thought about it. And the events that affected me directly were that of 1982 and the events that followed – when America allowed the Israelis to invade Lebanon, helped by the U.S. Sixth Fleet.
While you guys are comfortably sitting in your homes, we've got men being shot at RIGHT NOW. Someone is in a firefight in Afghanistan fighting for his/her life. You might be able to petition this war, but you cannot forget the soldiers!
afghanistan is a rebel thug corrupted 3rd world country that will never tolerate an invasion or occupation by others to dominate and exploit them for their resources or trade route to India. We are not there for humanitarian reasons but to continue our support for supply and demand of being a manufacturer of weapons to keep our economy afloat.The afghans enjoy our money and exploiting us. We need to get out of this quagmire.How dare Obama prolong this war like another Vietnam.ludwigtom53@yah
The Americans need to claim victory before they can leave. I think if they kill say 100,000 civilians all at once and claim they were all "Taliban" then they can say they won and go home.
There are not only american soldiers dying in this NATO operation. Soldiers from all over the NATO countries, like my own are dying cause of accidents, like road bombs and other dangerous situations. NATO might kiss their ass, i don't know what to support or not support anymore. I have no freaking idea. I will support what is best for Afghanistan, What do they want? What do the people want?
Obama fooled the world! The world where blinded by his skincolour! OBAMA is just another zionist puppeteer! American young men and women are dying in a war that only benefit Israel. Why do we die for Israel, when israel does nothing for us. The only reason is because we have a big zionist lobby who suck the life out of our country. FUCK Israel and the zionist lobbies like AIPAC!
WHY are you imposing policies destroying not only our country but the rest of the world? Past time to revolt against these FU RINO NEOCONs and DEMS. VOTE RAND PAUL senate KY.
The countless military interventions and the national debt of the United States proves that this nation is doomed. As they say, what goes around comes around. Basically, you enslave, steal, murder, rape, torture the people and the economy of countless countries...I only wonder whats going to happen to you.
@kababayanC2: Osama just made a video claiming to have done it. If you believe the official 9/11 report, the black boxes were never found, therefore, we have no clue who was on those planes. They could have been American for all we know. Get the facts. Realize the lies these so called leaders have told you.
@maxpower280: How is America not extremists? We are killing these people either out of revenge or to get what we want. Either way Americans heads are so far up their own asses and they dont even realize it.
Most of the criminals involved in the 9/11 attacks were from Saudi Arabia, NOT Afghanistan (but Saudi has always been an ally of the U.S. ). And they were professional criminals, NOT the tribespeople being fought in Afghanistan. As a nation, they have NOT declared war on Europe or the U.S. so why are we fighting this unwinnable war? The idea that we can IMPOSE a democracy on another nation is ridiculous. How many tmore thousands must be killed (on all sides) before we realise this?
@TheMInzify first off I believe that these evil doers know what they are doing, send high jackers that are from one of the only Arab countries that are allies with U.S., smart move, secondly, Afghanistan is a perfect haven for these people plotting, killing, and doing the devils work. War is hell. Civilians get killed, I do not think the WTC was full of military personal. This is the beginning of the end. Have faith in God.
What a stupid thing to say ...you must be ...republican?It's not a matter of surrendering and admitting failure, it's a matter of "enough" it's a matter of too many INNOCENT people dying tt's about the fact that we are bringing down thousands of civilians..good god , if you have that kind of emotion,if you have that kind of emotion ,should I say 'Just go have a miller & go a huntin" Please don't reply unless you have something inteligent to say
lol. america didn't fight germany when they invaded poland. we only fought them after japan bombed us in Hawaii and the Philippines. PEAR HARBOR ring a bell???
and who the hell is gonna pay for this War?? we are in a recession. fix the economy first. then i don't give a shit about who america wants to blow up next!
@tr4nqued Been a while since your comments but just wanted to add.
No more troops or mercenaries to Afghanistan.
The mercenaries outnumber our troops now in Iraq. So technically Obama isn't lying, he is withdrawing the troops...he's just replacing them with mercenaries. Which will cost more.
@EndTheFedRes bottom line, i have to admit the Afghanistan war might not be as justified or concrete. There are many flaws in our decisions. But i think we all have to agree that it is a situation to be dealt with in some level of force weather low or high. Like i said the situation may not be fully justified on Americas part but its definitely a situation not to be ignored either.
America will never win the war in Afghanistan. Afghanistan is a place where never a forign soldier stay for a long time. Inshallah very soon america will lose the war.
America are winning the war. Along with America and Afghanistan, the Taliban are being destroyed. Good riddance to some vile bastards. The Taliban forced their way to power when the soviets left. We won't be leaving Afghanistan until every Taliban scum is dead. The Taliban are an insult to Islam, and an insult to Afghanistan. Much more Taliban are being killed than Foreign and ANA troops.
Do you believe that the killing will stop if we just leave Afghanistan? Do you think there was no killing in Afghanistan before 9/11? Are you retarded?
There is a minimum of 10x's the killing in Afganistan&Iraq NOW-than there was before 911.
If Iraq&Afganistan had NOTHING to do with 911-which they did not.WHY the fuck are we there genius.There r millions of civilians killed in Iraq&Afganistan since this all began with the first scumbag bush in 1991.
The Taliban which hides in Afghanistan DID very much have something to do with 9/11. And submarineboat is right. The fighting would go on in Afghanistan even if we left, the difference is that the Taliban would seize more control there and be able to use it as a base of operations again.
there was killing but not like this, there is killing in the usa and if invaders were to come here there would be more killings.... make cents...................
We do need to stop this war its only making things worse. What makes it worse is that the Afghan gov't is apposing laws that only benfit the male population not the nation or women, and the idiots blame it on the holy book. Plz read the source than start assuming
How is Obama a warmonger? It's bushes administration that started this war, and killed all those people. Sure, Obama is the one that can stop it, but for anyone it is a really tough spot to be in. Some people like you and I say "Get the hell out!" but others will say "Increase the troops to end the war!" So really, Bush is to blame as the fucking warmonger.
One countries terrorists are another countries freedom fighters.
Just like the label of anyone on the right in the US is a terrorist.
I am a Libertarian, because of this my government wants you to believe I will kill innocent people while they allow our young men and women go across the globe and murder innocent people.
I find it odd the east coast Heroin use in places like Jersey soared EXACTLY when we went to Afghanistan. Hrmmmm... Weird.
What we did can not ever we undone, corrected, or fixed its a plain disaster at the costs of millions of innocent lives. We started out trying to save the world and ended up killing it.
No ones going to attack the U.S. and will most likely not in the future,so many lives have been wasted due to this pathetic war on terror,anyone in the military would agree with me. The reason some people join the military is because they need the benefits,others just think they are fighting for the country which is total bs. Like I said other then the japs attacking us in the 1940's no on else has really touched us after.
@EndTheFedRes First of all we are not facing afghanistan we are facing the taliban and and many other small organizations allied with the taliban. Were there because starting back in 1996 the Taliban bombed many UN embassys resulting in 100's of deaths. Also during that same time The taliban took control and enforced their radical islamic law which took the rights of woman and took the rights of daily life for everyone. Now tell me thats a joke.
@m1grand70 Is Afghanistan going to invade the US? Thats my point. What do you think the terrorist/civilian kill ratio is? How many US citizens have been killed by terrorism since 2002? Questions you should know the answer to. This is why the war on terror is such a joke. Its a perpetual, unwinable war. The only way I can support invading a country is if that country invades us or openly attacks us in some way. However Congress must openly declare a war, which has NOT been done.
@EndTheFedRes well yes, the civilian casualties over there are high which is most definitely regrettable, there hasn't been a terrorist attack in America within the last 8 years. But think of Europe during ww2, although the middle east situation isn't nearly as serious. Germany never attacked us, we just came to europe on our own will, and i dont think any country would question america entering europe during ww2. But i have to agree, congress must declare war.
@EndTheFedRes how many US citizens have been killed? WAY LESS than innocent afghan civilians, The US just goes and decided to drop bombs in afghanistan and kill thousands of innocent people there have been reports of US troops raping afghan women this needs to STOP. afghanistan is becoming a mess just leave the country alone!
@wahidsafi Roughly 6000 US casualties in Iraq, compared to one million Iraqi's (most of whom were innocent). 60K US casualties vs over a million Viet Cong (a war falsely started by the US; Gulf of Tonkin). The civilian/terrorist kill ratio ranges from 10-12/1. For every "terrorist" killed, the US kills 10-12 civilians, which begs the question...how many terrorists have we just created. We are in Afghanistan for three reasons, drugs, oil, and lithium. US citizens killed, not much ncomparison
@EndTheFedRes i completely agree. many innocent people die, including families which a few survive. and these few who survived are thirsty for revenge against the american troops who killed their families, therefore, committing terrorism acts
@wahidsafi If I were president troops would come home. I agree with your statement. However the problem lies convincing my people of the facts. Obvious facts they cant see or ignore.
@EndTheFedRes thank you. i believe that if the troops leave it will be safer for america (including the troops as well) and things will get better in afghanistan. obama says he's planning to remove troops by 2014 we'll see if he stays true to his word or not
@EndTheFedRes thank you. i believe that if the troops leave it will be safer for america (including the troops as well) and things will get better in afghanistan. obama says he's planning to remove troops by 2014 we'll see if he stays true to his word or not
@EndTheFedRes I disagree 100% with the war in Iraq, I don't however disagree with the war on militant fundamentalist muslims in afghanistan. If they had the capabilities, they would attack asap.
@EndTheFedRes We are not in a war against Afghanistan. We are in a war against taliban to help the afghanic people and to secure that it won't be a country where terrorist easily can hide.
If you could look away from your ego to not help other people. Then lets the soldiers do their job to save the world from more terror. Do you have any idea how many terrorattacks we probably have avoided from killing Bin Laden and killing terrorist and talibans?
@MathiasMoeller What would you call it if a foreign country (lets say China), came to the US to "help", and in the process of "helping" kill many of our politicians lots and lots of civilians as well? How many American civilians have died due to "terrorism" since 2001? Heart disease ALONE kills 650k/yr. Yet we spend 100x more combating "terrorism". More people die from mosquito's than terrorism. WAKE UP!!!
Our police force has killed more civilians in the last 20/yrs than terrorism.
@EndTheFedRes You really think that we should ignore terrorism and just let them bomb us?
Does the US kills people for speaking whats on their mind? Does the US give women who has been raped a death sentence?
We should fight terrorism so that people dont have to be afraid from walking on the streets. Do you really think that we should just stop investigating murders on the streets? No, because we want justice!
@MathiasMoeller Let Norway handle their own problems. We don't need to waste millions of dollars to avenge them, let the Norwegians do it themselves. Since when are we obligated to be the world police? I never said we were at war with Afghanistan, but yes we are. Afghanistan is a better place now? Are you sure? Maybe you should ask the people of Afghanistan.
Here we are empire crumbling and you want to go after "terrorists". WAKE UP!!!
@EndTheFedRes First of all. We help our allices if they get into trouple. If we dont do that, this world will never be without war.
I never said anything about that the US has to be the worlds police. US is not the only country with troops in afghan. Many countries including britain, norway, denmark ect.
I have asked many people of who lives (or have family) in afghanistan. If they have lost family members or friends because of the war. Then yeah. Ofc they are against it.
@EndTheFedRes I dont even wanna debate with you anymore ... You are freaking retarded ...
We need to help our allices. That has nothing to do with playing world police. AND I NEVER EVEN TALKED ABOUT DEFENSE?
wtf are you talking about? You have absolutely no clue on that we are debating afghanistan. Not anything with borders or that you like to say that helping allices has something to do with playing police.
The world is not that fucking simpel. Dont you get that?
@MathiasMoeller "We need to help our allices" Yes we do, but that don't mean we keep them by invading foreign countries combating "terrorism" for the world. Let your country handle it. We the US don't need to be involved with every skirmish our allies encounter...thats just silly. What are we doing in Afghanistan? Helping the people? Or is it drugs, oil, and lithium? Afghanistan is about money, not humanitarianism. This money is used in militarism around the world...hence MIC.
@EndTheFedRes The only way to prevent terrorist attacks is to kill terrorists. You can't just close the borders, terrorists will still be able (easily) to get into your country.
@MathiasMoeller People like you make me laugh. If anything Wikipedia sides with gvt. lol
Your the type of person who witness' someone else get shot in the head (right in front of you) and refuses to believe its real. The brain matter and blood you are covered in are all an illusion. Go back to sleep silly goose.
@EndTheFedRes No. Im not one who refuses that. But you are a person who makes up a story where he you have been in US "concentration camps" and says that they are real. I just need sources.
Do you have any? nope.
I dont even wanna bother debating with people who dont know their sources.
@MathiasMoeller The difference between me and you? When I am proven wrong (it does occasionally happen), I listen, I learn. You however still refuse to acknowledge the truth and facts. You better start differentiating fantasy from reality. Good luck.
@MathiasMoeller If you do that, it will be removed. I'm not saying false info doesn't make its way to Wikipedia but I am saying that it is usually quickly removed. Wikipedia is a great source of information, although it is "biased", in favor of large government. Almost all the information on Wikipedia is true...with some bias of course. In your favor.
@EndTheFedRes But if you ask the people who live in our allied territory, then yes. It has become a better place. 25 % of all children who is in school now is now girls. (before it was 0) Many more children than before is now in school. There is no public executions to terror up their society in allied territory and rebuilding and helping them make a strong country is working.
Maybe you should ask some people of afghanistan what they think about the war before you tell me what they think.
@MathiasMoeller You want to put a dent in "terrorism"? SECURE OUR BORDERS!!!! HELLO. How do you think they are able to bomb us? Legalizing marijuana and securing our borders would bring terrorism to a crawl, as well as the drug war. Yet you advocate spending TRILLIONS of dollars declaring a war on an "idea". The US occupies over 135 countries with 700 military bases, securing foreign borders but not our own. This only makes us less secure not more. WAKE UP!!!
@EndTheFedRes IM STILL NOT A US CITIZEN! DONT YOU GET THAT YET? WAKE UP!!
Legalizing marijuana? We are talking about afghanistan. This has nothing to do with that, you should probably just legalize alcohol as drugs isnt used much in denmark, but we are the number 1 drinkers in the world. So that would probably be most efficient.
And the war and helping out afghanistan and the use of the "trillions of dolloars" is not the reason why your economy is failing. Its your too low taxes.
@MathiasMoeller One more question for you (Afghanistan related);
Do you know what the terrorist/civilian kill ratio is?
It's about 1:10 That is for every "terrorist" killed we (alliances included) kill about 10 civilians. This begs the question...How many terrorists have we just created?
@MathiasMoeller Global Terrorism Database GTD. One of a few. Look it up, its easy. Wikipedia lists it as well. Although ratios do vary slightly. I read its actually 1:12, but conservatively put it at 1:10.
@MathiasMoeller Some very prominent US politicians have also "spouted" this number off. When I researched it I came up with the same or close to.
I'm all for combating "terrorism" just not on the level we are committed to. When 1000x more (millions) people die every year from heart disease, Malaria, cancer, etc, etc, it makes me wonder why were spending 100x more money combating "terrorism". It makes no sense. That money could be better used.
@EndTheFedRes Yep. That number you came up with is fake.
Also. Can you prevent canser, heart diseases? No, its the peoples own job to eat healthy and stay in shape. That is not the governments problem. The government is here to protect us from other countries (in the past) but now one of the (imo) most important jobs for them is to protect us from terror. Can you prevent terrorists? Yes.
@MathiasMoeller "Yep. That number you came up with is fake." lol The proof is out there. Find it. Tell yourself whatever you want if it makes you feel better. Why doesn't the gvt protect me from heart disease or cancer? I'm much more likely to die from one of those two than terrorism. If you live in the US, chances are you will be struck by lighting, or a car crossing the street than to be killed by "terrorism". But you keep telln yourself "terrorism" is the problem.
@MathiasMoeller Wikipedia is sympathetic to the gvt. It's on your side (currently) lol. Don't believe me?
Google; "CIA drug trafficking" and look at the Wikipedia examples, and their justification for it. Now tell me thats not biased. Some of the BEST news you can get is independent media, not biased MSN, CNN, ABC, FAUX, etc. If multiple sources say the same thing, its a safe bet ITS TRUE. Do your own research, think for yourself. Don't let corporate propaganda tell you what to think.
@MathiasMoeller BTW MathiasMoeller I challenge you. DO IT! Write the info you just stated into Wikipedia and lets see how long it lasts. Make sure you read my last post as well. And let me know the instant you do it. Make it a public post.
Obama promises to get troops out of Iraq and what does he do? Sends troops of Afghanistan. We have no business being there. The only reason we are there is so that corporations that make lots of money off of wars can prosper and payoff congressment and senators to start more wars so the can prosper and payoff congressment and senators to start more wars so they....... Do you get the idea?
Agree I'm Swedish and we have about 600 soldiers over there just 6.7 deaths and 40 injuries in 10 years. , But I fear that there is a new Vietnam no one really knows what the fighting before they start shooting.!
I have always supported U.S. troops but here in Sweden we begin to get tired of shit over there. and we are not even involved in the war and not you either, the lucid terrorists are in Pakistan and Saudi Arabia! Bush has deceived you, just as Kennedy did, Vietnam
peace
Hv714ver 2 months ago
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I have an idea, Pres. Obama.
Let's bring our soldiers back home from Afghanistan. This war on terror cannot be won through conventional means, so let's be unconventional!
Let's send our brightest American superheroes around the world to chase down those Al Qaeda criminals. The CIA and special forces can track them down and put them behind bars where they belong.
Have you ever sent an elephant to catch a mouse? Doesn't work. Send a cat instead. Send a small, stealthy, brilliant team with claws.
eastariel 4 months ago
The lives of Afghanistan's citizens are sacred. Why must we invade their country and disrupt their lives? Why can't we just leave them alone? They didn't do anything wrong! Al Qaeda isn't even in Afghanistan.
When will America learn to "love thy neighbor"? Soon, I hope, for everyone's sake.
eastariel 4 months ago
Continued from below _ Please do not be complacent, let your voice be heard and demand from your government representatives to do what is right, if not, lets voting them out of office IMMEDIATELY and start infusing funds into OUR country's recovery, education, infrastructure, health.
1bluecoat 6 months ago
This war is costing BILLIONS EVERY MONTH to the American tax payers. The military industrial complex, the corporations benefiting from the wars do not want this to end and we will continue to be told that this is a necessary war. Our once mighty and robust country is in a down spiral in big part because of the huge cost the war infringes. Please do not be complacent, let your voice be heard and demand from your government representatives to do what is right, if not, lets vote them out of office
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The war will not stop until the Zonist is dead
jiger12 7 months ago
Thumbs up if you Believe that Afghanistan war is a war for Israel.
shadowofears 9 months ago
As I watched the destroyed towers in Lebanon, it occurred to me punish the unjust the same way (and) to destroy towers in America so it could taste some of what we are tasting and to stop killing our children and women."
– Osama bin Laden, 2004
shadowofears 9 months ago
"Allah knows it did not cross our minds to attack the towers but after the situation became unbearable and we witnessed the injustice and tyranny of the American-Israeli alliance against our people in Palestine and Lebanon, I thought about it. And the events that affected me directly were that of 1982 and the events that followed – when America allowed the Israelis to invade Lebanon, helped by the U.S. Sixth Fleet.
shadowofears 9 months ago
While you guys are comfortably sitting in your homes, we've got men being shot at RIGHT NOW. Someone is in a firefight in Afghanistan fighting for his/her life. You might be able to petition this war, but you cannot forget the soldiers!
kozarac5 9 months ago
“The world is a fine place and worth fighting for.”
ihaveverizon 10 months ago
Where is Osama Bin Laden? It's all one big pack of lies people... Wake up! This war is BULLSHIT!!!
WarCrime911 1 year ago
No more war! Give Peace a Chance!
guitarfreak651 1 year ago
afghanistan is a rebel thug corrupted 3rd world country that will never tolerate an invasion or occupation by others to dominate and exploit them for their resources or trade route to India. We are not there for humanitarian reasons but to continue our support for supply and demand of being a manufacturer of weapons to keep our economy afloat.The afghans enjoy our money and exploiting us. We need to get out of this quagmire.How dare Obama prolong this war like another Vietnam.ludwigtom53@yah
tomludwig1 1 year ago
FUCK AMERICA. Islam in the Right way.
mihailansimov 1 year ago
The Americans need to claim victory before they can leave. I think if they kill say 100,000 civilians all at once and claim they were all "Taliban" then they can say they won and go home.
MeketoaI 1 year ago
There are not only american soldiers dying in this NATO operation. Soldiers from all over the NATO countries, like my own are dying cause of accidents, like road bombs and other dangerous situations. NATO might kiss their ass, i don't know what to support or not support anymore. I have no freaking idea. I will support what is best for Afghanistan, What do they want? What do the people want?
AnaNord 1 year ago
Obama fooled the world! The world where blinded by his skincolour! OBAMA is just another zionist puppeteer! American young men and women are dying in a war that only benefit Israel. Why do we die for Israel, when israel does nothing for us. The only reason is because we have a big zionist lobby who suck the life out of our country. FUCK Israel and the zionist lobbies like AIPAC!
Tasbah 1 year ago
VOTE RON PAUL...........THE DEMOCRATS AND THE republicans are one in the same
LADORSEY 1 year ago
WHY are you imposing policies destroying not only our country but the rest of the world? Past time to revolt against these FU RINO NEOCONs and DEMS. VOTE RAND PAUL senate KY.
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patricialee76 1 year ago
The countless military interventions and the national debt of the United States proves that this nation is doomed. As they say, what goes around comes around. Basically, you enslave, steal, murder, rape, torture the people and the economy of countless countries...I only wonder whats going to happen to you.
Neso1991 1 year ago
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Neso1991 1 year ago
@kababayanC2: Osama just made a video claiming to have done it. If you believe the official 9/11 report, the black boxes were never found, therefore, we have no clue who was on those planes. They could have been American for all we know. Get the facts. Realize the lies these so called leaders have told you.
JMoneyG 1 year ago
This war honestly makes me sick and ashamed to be an American.
cjneill65 2 years ago
As a veteran I share your sentiment.
masflojo 1 year ago
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maxpower280 2 years ago
@maxpower280: How is America not extremists? We are killing these people either out of revenge or to get what we want. Either way Americans heads are so far up their own asses and they dont even realize it.
JMoneyG 1 year ago
Most of the criminals involved in the 9/11 attacks were from Saudi Arabia, NOT Afghanistan (but Saudi has always been an ally of the U.S. ). And they were professional criminals, NOT the tribespeople being fought in Afghanistan. As a nation, they have NOT declared war on Europe or the U.S. so why are we fighting this unwinnable war? The idea that we can IMPOSE a democracy on another nation is ridiculous. How many tmore thousands must be killed (on all sides) before we realise this?
TheMInzify 2 years ago
@TheMInzify first off I believe that these evil doers know what they are doing, send high jackers that are from one of the only Arab countries that are allies with U.S., smart move, secondly, Afghanistan is a perfect haven for these people plotting, killing, and doing the devils work. War is hell. Civilians get killed, I do not think the WTC was full of military personal. This is the beginning of the end. Have faith in God.
croniclone81 1 year ago
This is complete nonsense!
Takhar4life 2 years ago
LOL! do u really believe in this bullshit?
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TheRevGBones 2 years ago
'Stop The War" Hm.You mean "Give Up, Admit Failure and Let Terrorism Go Unchallenged..."
One question; if we had done that when nazi's attacked Poland,what would your world look like now?
toronto55 2 years ago
What a stupid thing to say ...you must be ...republican?It's not a matter of surrendering and admitting failure, it's a matter of "enough" it's a matter of too many INNOCENT people dying tt's about the fact that we are bringing down thousands of civilians..good god , if you have that kind of emotion,if you have that kind of emotion ,should I say 'Just go have a miller & go a huntin" Please don't reply unless you have something inteligent to say
patsysnell 2 years ago
lol. america didn't fight germany when they invaded poland. we only fought them after japan bombed us in Hawaii and the Philippines. PEAR HARBOR ring a bell???
holytemplar 2 years ago
and who the hell is gonna pay for this War?? we are in a recession. fix the economy first. then i don't give a shit about who america wants to blow up next!
holytemplar 2 years ago
1) You are comparing a bunch of militants in afghanistan to the Nazis?!?!? Seriously?!?
2) We did do that when the Nazis invaded Poland. We didn't enter the war until we were attacked. Get your history right.
3)Look at the nonviolent resistance of Denmark during WWII and then talk.
Anarchofalafel 2 years ago
@Anarchofalafel yes and the nonviolent resistance didn't work in denmark.. so they turned to more violent acts..... look that up..
fireking9934 1 year ago
Petition Obama: No more troops to Afghanistan
tr4nqued 2 years ago 4
@tr4nqued Been a while since your comments but just wanted to add.
No more troops or mercenaries to Afghanistan.
The mercenaries outnumber our troops now in Iraq. So technically Obama isn't lying, he is withdrawing the troops...he's just replacing them with mercenaries. Which will cost more.
EndTheFedRes 1 year ago
@EndTheFedRes bottom line, i have to admit the Afghanistan war might not be as justified or concrete. There are many flaws in our decisions. But i think we all have to agree that it is a situation to be dealt with in some level of force weather low or high. Like i said the situation may not be fully justified on Americas part but its definitely a situation not to be ignored either.
m1grand70 1 year ago
@m1grand70 @skydome29 The truth is getting out, but give this a watch. The ONLY time I have seen this in corporate propaganda.
/watch?v=vKNumvnwAO8
EndTheFedRes 1 year ago
@EndTheFedRes I'm getting an invalid address message
skydome29 1 year ago
@skydome29 It's working for me. Make sure you only have one / after the dot c o m. I'm not having any issues with it.
EndTheFedRes 1 year ago
Think self ! Rethink your self ! Its ugly and dark... Zeitgeist
egonsma 2 years ago
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raf3070 2 years ago
America will never win the war in Afghanistan. Afghanistan is a place where never a forign soldier stay for a long time. Inshallah very soon america will lose the war.
Noormusleh 2 years ago
America are winning the war. Along with America and Afghanistan, the Taliban are being destroyed. Good riddance to some vile bastards. The Taliban forced their way to power when the soviets left. We won't be leaving Afghanistan until every Taliban scum is dead. The Taliban are an insult to Islam, and an insult to Afghanistan. Much more Taliban are being killed than Foreign and ANA troops.
moodini99 2 years ago
rethink america
SillyBee111 2 years ago
I say we take out the military, put in secret spies, let them kill themselves and if they plan to make another attack, the spies will pick it up.
MLadyAzzera 2 years ago
4000 DEAD WHERE?
There were over 4000 people killed in Iraq when Bush was in office.
BUSH STARTED THIS WAR U DUMB FUCK-NOT OBAMA.HE HAS TO END IT NOW.
THE LYING REPUBLICUNT BUSH STARTED ALL THIS BULLSHIT WAR.MAY HE BURN IN HELL WITH HIS FATHER 4 ALL ETERNITY.
SCUMBAG KILLER.
ed11561 2 years ago
US Out of Afghanistan, US Out of Iraq, US Out of all nations now!
XtremePacifist 2 years ago
Do you believe that the killing will stop if we just leave Afghanistan? Do you think there was no killing in Afghanistan before 9/11? Are you retarded?
submarineboat 2 years ago 3
There is a minimum of 10x's the killing in Afganistan&Iraq NOW-than there was before 911.
If Iraq&Afganistan had NOTHING to do with 911-which they did not.WHY the fuck are we there genius.There r millions of civilians killed in Iraq&Afganistan since this all began with the first scumbag bush in 1991.
ed11561 2 years ago
The Taliban which hides in Afghanistan DID very much have something to do with 9/11. And submarineboat is right. The fighting would go on in Afghanistan even if we left, the difference is that the Taliban would seize more control there and be able to use it as a base of operations again.
irishlight42 2 years ago
@submarineboat
there was killing but not like this, there is killing in the usa and if invaders were to come here there would be more killings.... make cents...................
missionaryoffaith 1 year ago
We do need to stop this war its only making things worse. What makes it worse is that the Afghan gov't is apposing laws that only benfit the male population not the nation or women, and the idiots blame it on the holy book. Plz read the source than start assuming
skms5015 2 years ago
How is Obama a warmonger? It's bushes administration that started this war, and killed all those people. Sure, Obama is the one that can stop it, but for anyone it is a really tough spot to be in. Some people like you and I say "Get the hell out!" but others will say "Increase the troops to end the war!" So really, Bush is to blame as the fucking warmonger.
1lifeLearnBElieveYOU 2 years ago
Follia pura!
Fermiamo questi criminali.
Fuck NWO!
gereniax 2 years ago
Says; As long as there is profit in war; politicians will be bought and paid for.
Your family will die for a case under the Red White and Blue.
Praise Jesus in the name of the republican Party.
keith92234hotmail 2 years ago
Where's my change?
dtaijo174 2 years ago 2
One countries terrorists are another countries freedom fighters.
Just like the label of anyone on the right in the US is a terrorist.
I am a Libertarian, because of this my government wants you to believe I will kill innocent people while they allow our young men and women go across the globe and murder innocent people.
st4ticblu3 2 years ago 2
i know Why people are geting killed .....
no they are not people they are muslims thats why they are getting killed
MKsayd 2 years ago
I find it odd the east coast Heroin use in places like Jersey soared EXACTLY when we went to Afghanistan. Hrmmmm... Weird.
What we did can not ever we undone, corrected, or fixed its a plain disaster at the costs of millions of innocent lives. We started out trying to save the world and ended up killing it.
theserf3 2 years ago
Afghanistan = pissed off farmers, not terrorists.
They don't want your Wal-marts and oil pipeline.
Let Israel fight their own wars.
LiberalHuntingSeason 2 years ago 2
It's such a joke. Just like Vietnam, if no one remembers.
czubspenx 2 years ago 2
No ones going to attack the U.S. and will most likely not in the future,so many lives have been wasted due to this pathetic war on terror,anyone in the military would agree with me. The reason some people join the military is because they need the benefits,others just think they are fighting for the country which is total bs. Like I said other then the japs attacking us in the 1940's no on else has really touched us after.
StyleAndSpeedx 2 years ago
I have a question. Is Afghanistan going to invade the US?
Then why are we there? The war on terror? what a joke.
EndTheFedRes 2 years ago 8
@EndTheFedRes First of all we are not facing afghanistan we are facing the taliban and and many other small organizations allied with the taliban. Were there because starting back in 1996 the Taliban bombed many UN embassys resulting in 100's of deaths. Also during that same time The taliban took control and enforced their radical islamic law which took the rights of woman and took the rights of daily life for everyone. Now tell me thats a joke.
m1grand70 1 year ago
@m1grand70 Is Afghanistan going to invade the US? Thats my point. What do you think the terrorist/civilian kill ratio is? How many US citizens have been killed by terrorism since 2002? Questions you should know the answer to. This is why the war on terror is such a joke. Its a perpetual, unwinable war. The only way I can support invading a country is if that country invades us or openly attacks us in some way. However Congress must openly declare a war, which has NOT been done.
EndTheFedRes 1 year ago
@EndTheFedRes well yes, the civilian casualties over there are high which is most definitely regrettable, there hasn't been a terrorist attack in America within the last 8 years. But think of Europe during ww2, although the middle east situation isn't nearly as serious. Germany never attacked us, we just came to europe on our own will, and i dont think any country would question america entering europe during ww2. But i have to agree, congress must declare war.
m1grand70 1 year ago
@EndTheFedRes how many US citizens have been killed? WAY LESS than innocent afghan civilians, The US just goes and decided to drop bombs in afghanistan and kill thousands of innocent people there have been reports of US troops raping afghan women this needs to STOP. afghanistan is becoming a mess just leave the country alone!
wahidsafi 1 year ago
@wahidsafi Roughly 6000 US casualties in Iraq, compared to one million Iraqi's (most of whom were innocent). 60K US casualties vs over a million Viet Cong (a war falsely started by the US; Gulf of Tonkin). The civilian/terrorist kill ratio ranges from 10-12/1. For every "terrorist" killed, the US kills 10-12 civilians, which begs the question...how many terrorists have we just created. We are in Afghanistan for three reasons, drugs, oil, and lithium. US citizens killed, not much ncomparison
EndTheFedRes 1 year ago
@EndTheFedRes i completely agree. many innocent people die, including families which a few survive. and these few who survived are thirsty for revenge against the american troops who killed their families, therefore, committing terrorism acts
wahidsafi 1 year ago
@wahidsafi If I were president troops would come home. I agree with your statement. However the problem lies convincing my people of the facts. Obvious facts they cant see or ignore.
EndTheFedRes 1 year ago
@EndTheFedRes thank you. i believe that if the troops leave it will be safer for america (including the troops as well) and things will get better in afghanistan. obama says he's planning to remove troops by 2014 we'll see if he stays true to his word or not
wahidsafi 1 year ago
@EndTheFedRes thank you. i believe that if the troops leave it will be safer for america (including the troops as well) and things will get better in afghanistan. obama says he's planning to remove troops by 2014 we'll see if he stays true to his word or not
wahidsafi 1 year ago
@EndTheFedRes I disagree 100% with the war in Iraq, I don't however disagree with the war on militant fundamentalist muslims in afghanistan. If they had the capabilities, they would attack asap.
skydome29 1 year ago
@skydome29 I cant believe I watched this through typical corporate propaganda channels. Dylan just gained a couple notches of respect with me.
/watch?v=vKNumvnwAO8
EndTheFedRes 1 year ago
@EndTheFedRes FOR ISRAEL
idriss0007 9 months ago
@EndTheFedRes We are not in a war against Afghanistan. We are in a war against taliban to help the afghanic people and to secure that it won't be a country where terrorist easily can hide.
If you could look away from your ego to not help other people. Then lets the soldiers do their job to save the world from more terror. Do you have any idea how many terrorattacks we probably have avoided from killing Bin Laden and killing terrorist and talibans?
MathiasMoeller 6 months ago
@MathiasMoeller What would you call it if a foreign country (lets say China), came to the US to "help", and in the process of "helping" kill many of our politicians lots and lots of civilians as well? How many American civilians have died due to "terrorism" since 2001? Heart disease ALONE kills 650k/yr. Yet we spend 100x more combating "terrorism". More people die from mosquito's than terrorism. WAKE UP!!!
Our police force has killed more civilians in the last 20/yrs than terrorism.
EndTheFedRes 6 months ago
@EndTheFedRes You really think that we should ignore terrorism and just let them bomb us?
Does the US kills people for speaking whats on their mind? Does the US give women who has been raped a death sentence?
We should fight terrorism so that people dont have to be afraid from walking on the streets. Do you really think that we should just stop investigating murders on the streets? No, because we want justice!
Ps. Its not "our" police force. It's "yours."
MathiasMoeller 6 months ago
@MathiasMoeller Let Norway handle their own problems. We don't need to waste millions of dollars to avenge them, let the Norwegians do it themselves. Since when are we obligated to be the world police? I never said we were at war with Afghanistan, but yes we are. Afghanistan is a better place now? Are you sure? Maybe you should ask the people of Afghanistan.
Here we are empire crumbling and you want to go after "terrorists". WAKE UP!!!
EndTheFedRes 6 months ago
@EndTheFedRes First of all. We help our allices if they get into trouple. If we dont do that, this world will never be without war.
I never said anything about that the US has to be the worlds police. US is not the only country with troops in afghan. Many countries including britain, norway, denmark ect.
I have asked many people of who lives (or have family) in afghanistan. If they have lost family members or friends because of the war. Then yeah. Ofc they are against it.
MathiasMoeller 6 months ago
@MathiasMoeller lol, the Norway "terrorist" was a white, blond haired/blue eyed Norwegian.
EndTheFedRes 6 months ago
@MathiasMoeller "I never said anything about that the US has to be the worlds police"
and you also stated this;
"First of all. We help our allices if they get into trouple. If we dont do that, this world will never be without war."
Which is it? Police? or no police?
The simple fact is we have done NOTHING but make our borders LESS secure by this "militarism". Which has NOTHING/nada to do with defense.
Invading foreign countries has NOTHING to do with defense.
EndTheFedRes 6 months ago
@EndTheFedRes I dont even wanna debate with you anymore ... You are freaking retarded ...
We need to help our allices. That has nothing to do with playing world police. AND I NEVER EVEN TALKED ABOUT DEFENSE?
wtf are you talking about? You have absolutely no clue on that we are debating afghanistan. Not anything with borders or that you like to say that helping allices has something to do with playing police.
The world is not that fucking simpel. Dont you get that?
MathiasMoeller 6 months ago
@MathiasMoeller "We need to help our allices" Yes we do, but that don't mean we keep them by invading foreign countries combating "terrorism" for the world. Let your country handle it. We the US don't need to be involved with every skirmish our allies encounter...thats just silly. What are we doing in Afghanistan? Helping the people? Or is it drugs, oil, and lithium? Afghanistan is about money, not humanitarianism. This money is used in militarism around the world...hence MIC.
EndTheFedRes 6 months ago
@EndTheFedRes The only way to prevent terrorist attacks is to kill terrorists. You can't just close the borders, terrorists will still be able (easily) to get into your country.
And yes, we are helping the people in afghanistan
MathiasMoeller 6 months ago
@MathiasMoeller People like you make me laugh. If anything Wikipedia sides with gvt. lol
Your the type of person who witness' someone else get shot in the head (right in front of you) and refuses to believe its real. The brain matter and blood you are covered in are all an illusion. Go back to sleep silly goose.
EndTheFedRes 6 months ago
@EndTheFedRes No. Im not one who refuses that. But you are a person who makes up a story where he you have been in US "concentration camps" and says that they are real. I just need sources.
Do you have any? nope.
I dont even wanna bother debating with people who dont know their sources.
MathiasMoeller 6 months ago
@MathiasMoeller lol FEMA camps are real? Google "bill HR 645 111th congress"
My sources were Wikipedia, and GTD. hello.
Are you gonna now tell me FEMA camps dont exist? You can get the info off gvttrack us. but its prolly not gud enuf. lol
The US does have a history of putting its citizens in camps...you do know that right?
EndTheFedRes 6 months ago
@MathiasMoeller The difference between me and you? When I am proven wrong (it does occasionally happen), I listen, I learn. You however still refuse to acknowledge the truth and facts. You better start differentiating fantasy from reality. Good luck.
EndTheFedRes 6 months ago
@EndTheFedRes But i still haven't gotten my facts. Thats the problem.
MathiasMoeller 6 months ago
@MathiasMoeller Facts again...here I did the work for ya.
The Brookings institute a Democratic backed research facility (once again in YOUR favor)
watch?v=bsjbVt2wbKg
Once again I did the research for you. Now go do it yourself...or just keep the blinders on. HELLO.
GTD and Wikipedia are good resources to. lol Just cause you dont hear it from CBS, or CNN, or MSNBC does NOT mean its false. WAKE UP!!!
EndTheFedRes 6 months ago
@EndTheFedRes i can go into wikipedia and write that jews are dogs dressed as humans .. (im not racist btw.)
That is enough reason for me to NOT use wikipedia nor trust it.
MathiasMoeller 6 months ago
@MathiasMoeller If you do that, it will be removed. I'm not saying false info doesn't make its way to Wikipedia but I am saying that it is usually quickly removed. Wikipedia is a great source of information, although it is "biased", in favor of large government. Almost all the information on Wikipedia is true...with some bias of course. In your favor.
EndTheFedRes 6 months ago
@EndTheFedRes But if you ask the people who live in our allied territory, then yes. It has become a better place. 25 % of all children who is in school now is now girls. (before it was 0) Many more children than before is now in school. There is no public executions to terror up their society in allied territory and rebuilding and helping them make a strong country is working.
Maybe you should ask some people of afghanistan what they think about the war before you tell me what they think.
MathiasMoeller 6 months ago
@MathiasMoeller You want to put a dent in "terrorism"? SECURE OUR BORDERS!!!! HELLO. How do you think they are able to bomb us? Legalizing marijuana and securing our borders would bring terrorism to a crawl, as well as the drug war. Yet you advocate spending TRILLIONS of dollars declaring a war on an "idea". The US occupies over 135 countries with 700 military bases, securing foreign borders but not our own. This only makes us less secure not more. WAKE UP!!!
EndTheFedRes 6 months ago
@EndTheFedRes IM STILL NOT A US CITIZEN! DONT YOU GET THAT YET? WAKE UP!!
Legalizing marijuana? We are talking about afghanistan. This has nothing to do with that, you should probably just legalize alcohol as drugs isnt used much in denmark, but we are the number 1 drinkers in the world. So that would probably be most efficient.
And the war and helping out afghanistan and the use of the "trillions of dolloars" is not the reason why your economy is failing. Its your too low taxes.
MathiasMoeller 6 months ago
@MathiasMoeller One more question for you (Afghanistan related);
Do you know what the terrorist/civilian kill ratio is?
It's about 1:10 That is for every "terrorist" killed we (alliances included) kill about 10 civilians. This begs the question...How many terrorists have we just created?
Think about that.
EndTheFedRes 6 months ago
@EndTheFedRes Show me your source cause i dont believe that. That is just bullshit.
MathiasMoeller 6 months ago
@MathiasMoeller Global Terrorism Database GTD. One of a few. Look it up, its easy. Wikipedia lists it as well. Although ratios do vary slightly. I read its actually 1:12, but conservatively put it at 1:10.
EndTheFedRes 6 months ago
@MathiasMoeller Some very prominent US politicians have also "spouted" this number off. When I researched it I came up with the same or close to.
I'm all for combating "terrorism" just not on the level we are committed to. When 1000x more (millions) people die every year from heart disease, Malaria, cancer, etc, etc, it makes me wonder why were spending 100x more money combating "terrorism". It makes no sense. That money could be better used.
EndTheFedRes 6 months ago
@EndTheFedRes Yep. That number you came up with is fake.
Also. Can you prevent canser, heart diseases? No, its the peoples own job to eat healthy and stay in shape. That is not the governments problem. The government is here to protect us from other countries (in the past) but now one of the (imo) most important jobs for them is to protect us from terror. Can you prevent terrorists? Yes.
MathiasMoeller 6 months ago
@MathiasMoeller "Yep. That number you came up with is fake." lol The proof is out there. Find it. Tell yourself whatever you want if it makes you feel better. Why doesn't the gvt protect me from heart disease or cancer? I'm much more likely to die from one of those two than terrorism. If you live in the US, chances are you will be struck by lighting, or a car crossing the street than to be killed by "terrorism". But you keep telln yourself "terrorism" is the problem.
EndTheFedRes 6 months ago
@EndTheFedRes You take your sources from wikipedia -.-' .
This debate is over. Shows how ignorant you really are.
MathiasMoeller 6 months ago
@MathiasMoeller Wikipedia is sympathetic to the gvt. It's on your side (currently) lol. Don't believe me?
Google; "CIA drug trafficking" and look at the Wikipedia examples, and their justification for it. Now tell me thats not biased. Some of the BEST news you can get is independent media, not biased MSN, CNN, ABC, FAUX, etc. If multiple sources say the same thing, its a safe bet ITS TRUE. Do your own research, think for yourself. Don't let corporate propaganda tell you what to think.
EndTheFedRes 6 months ago
@MathiasMoeller BTW MathiasMoeller I challenge you. DO IT! Write the info you just stated into Wikipedia and lets see how long it lasts. Make sure you read my last post as well. And let me know the instant you do it. Make it a public post.
EndTheFedRes 6 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@MathiasMoeller Check this out, you wont see this in the news.
google
"afghan* protest us civilian casualties"
EndTheFedRes 6 months ago
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MathiasMoeller 6 months ago
@EndTheFedRes But you again didn't talking about the people of afghanistan. It has become a better place now than it was 10 years ago.
Ps try telling the people of norway today, that we shouldnt fight terrorism.
MathiasMoeller 6 months ago
you cannot win this holy war militarily
PreCurSeD 2 years ago
Obama promises to get troops out of Iraq and what does he do? Sends troops of Afghanistan. We have no business being there. The only reason we are there is so that corporations that make lots of money off of wars can prosper and payoff congressment and senators to start more wars so the can prosper and payoff congressment and senators to start more wars so they....... Do you get the idea?
czubspenx 2 years ago
Fuck Afghanistan. Send more troops!
barklikeamonkey 2 years ago
Fuck you! Lets send you there!
nesianboy 2 years ago
OKay we got it you kinda people hate innocent people
MKsayd 2 years ago
What about the Caspian sea Gas..?
guslingus 2 years ago