China is Sliding Back into Totalitarianism - Stefan Molyneux Interviews Gordon Chang

[ImperialGuardofIran]

this interview is an american fantacy its unbelieveable they believe there own propaganda

[InfiniteDejaVu]

Stef... DO MORE INTERVIEWS! :)

[MelasChupa]

Bald people are always so wise

[marcabela]

Man, how does Stefan work out all these spot on examples all the time, quote from movie X here, oh and, Indiana Jones did that there, etc - how can all that stuff fit all (at the same time) in the same head and be accessible so rapidly... on demand, all the time. I mean, I barely manage to spell out the letters "Stefan Molyneux" in the YouTube prompt when I'm in need of a good video...

[TheLastAnarchist69]

Stefan, as an aspiring journalist and researcher, I'm never surprised to find your awesomeness when it comes to debating, interviewing, and explaining things; that which would otherwise be complicated. Great work, brotha, as always.

[elynn63ky]

@MrJeggus Moralistically I should help those I know are in need, but it does not follow that I should use the force of government to make others help. Someone who is forced to help isn't being moral, they are merely being robbed.

[twostrongtoo]

can i plz get people to make commments and ask stefan to talk about Serge Monast on stefs videos plz thank you

[maniswil2]

When did stefan move to Phoenix?

[erbeeflower]

Fascinating

[Moragauth]

@MrJeggus Prove it.

[Moragauth]

@MrJeggus Which pricks? If you support deficit financing, debt borrowing, taxation and inflation you are part of the problem.

[Moragauth]

@MrJeggus A country that robs so self-aggrandising assholes can feel better about themselves*

Yes.

[xxCrazySmooth]

@MrJeggus You're the self absorbed selfish prick, who use force and theft to finance and force your corrupt failed political system of violence on all humanity, cause you think you're moral in doing so. You people are gonna get mind raped when this system collapses.

[xxCrazySmooth]

@MrJeggus What's this "we" stuff? If you wanna help, great, help all you want. Just get your gun out my face and your hands out of my pocket.

[LibertyDownUnder]

China needs to float the Yuan, and build domestic consumption. Their Govenrment needs to be as 'hands off' as possible, excet for keeping the peace.

They don't 'need' US consumers, or more paper dollars from the US.

[slimmerskimmer]

"second double dip down turn" yikes will there be a third and so how low can they go ? and how many will be dragged down with them?

[bweazel]

.... when did they slide out of it?

[Deeno888]

3.55 First Revolution in their history??? I don't think so, far from it. China has a long history of Revolts and thousands of years of Breaking up into separate kingdoms then reforming in smaller and feuding states. To say this was there first ever revolt shows poor understanding of Chinese history. With respect.

[NBrown654500]

How long before our regime here in the US collapses?

[4lifejackhammer]

so, what is the chance of chinese leaders using imperialist arguments? If enough people are riled up, to prevent rebellion, then the rebelious would be sent to war, and likely die. Many nations are indebted to china, and th Chinese would likely use that as either reason for attack or to try and prevent interference.

[rctube1958]

The US mid-wived democracy in Taiwan and S. Korea? That's not how I remember it.

[fergus247]

Whenever i speak about the flaws as i percieve them in our political systems, or the consequences that they have brought people turn to me and say "well kapitalism sucks too" basically. And im not even talking about kapitalism!

[Panpiper]

@fergus247 Talk to them again when they have no job, when what money they do have is nearly worthless, and when the government bread trucks don't deliver enough bread to the government bread store to go around for all the ration coupons that were issued. Talk to them then about the problems with the system and they might be a tad more attentive.

[fergus247]

@Panpiper lets hope so

[btigtime2]

Wow, Stefan you are a great interviewer. The best I have see in the Alt media.

[maxdeniroAu]

Very poor analysis from this guy. No context. Classic quote: "We really don't know what the Chinese people think, as the Chinese government doesn't allow us to know".

What a load of crap. If you want to go to China and speak to Chinese people, then you are free to do so, as have many many people. The thoughts of the Chinese people are very easy to get.

This guy is simply pushing a pet theory of his. I expect that he has some personal, emotional axe to grind against the Chinese government.

[PanzerDivisionBOM]

@maxdeniroAu

Except...

If the Chinese government is blocking critical blogs and news outlets, and requires permission for surveys, or at least "encourages" native surveys to present politically correct data and interpretations, and especially if the mentality of the Chinese people contains a historically justified fear of political persecution by government officials... What, are you gonna roam the countryside and interview random people until you have a statistically significant sample size?

[maxdeniroAu]

@PanzerDivisionBOM I can see you've never been to China. Who is talking about roaming the countryside? Just go to Beijing, you will learn all you need to know.

[PanzerDivisionBOM]

@maxdeniroAu

It's true that I haven't been to China, but I do know that Beijing is the most heavily developed and industrialized area in a country that has largely remained rural and agrarian. It is also probably the most heavily targetted area for government spending and propaghanda efforts, apart from things like the ghost city of Kangbashi.

In short, it's the nice place where the authorities like to invite foreigners.

[Xtro2005]

@PanzerDivisionBOM Potemkin village is the phrase I believe you're looking for

[BITARTEN2]

There is not solution.

Humanity always goes towards revolution and degeneration.

There is good people out there but this world is a monstrous place to live.

Bloodsheding and destruction are natural in this world.

This is not "sad" nor negative but REAL

[myusernameisluc]

@BITARTEN2

The overwhelming majority of the human population inherently strives for peace. What the hell are you on about?

[g1981c]

good stuff ...

[murf69]

Regulation only failed because of too much money? Not sure about that one...

[Brownyman]

If you guys haven't seen it, Jackie Chan is starring in a movie Called "1911".

It's odd to see Jackie with firearms, but then, you get it! You get why 1911 was their year of revolution!

Fun fact, it's Chan's 100th Film and the Centennial of the Revolution!

[KidBlondie]

Thanks for the video. You keep me updated on the world economy.

[Brownyman]

I feel it possible China could go through, even deeper, into Capitalist Revolution.

America has traditionally been the best place for hope to a return of Capitalism. After watching this interview I can imagine the Chinese people leading the way.

Can you imagine what would happen to Earth if China detached itself from the Fiat Dollar Reserve Standard and establishing a truly free, 100% backed, private Gold Standard Yuan!

Perhaps it's unlikely, but the idea still takes my breath away!

[masonkiller666]

@Brownyman It feels like to me China is moving towards Capitalism, and its America that is moving toward Totalitarianism

[BlueSkies360]

thanks for posting

[qtutoringhelps]

Haha, 6:10 - "[CCP] is a gang of criminals with an ideological cover" --if you ever visit Beijing, I suggest you keep your opinions to yourself ;-)

[ill318]

'people in north korea are too poor to rebel, they have to spend all their time trying to survive' -- 280,000 mass protest events in china.. 'the regeim is not worried about the number of protests, but the escalation in violence'

interesting stuff thanks

[mispistoleros]

@ill318, the 2008 total, just over 100,000 "incidents", as beijing calls them, represented a 600% over 10 yrs. from '08 to '11, the # of incidents almost tripled.

beijing is the #1 client for israeli domestic surveillance systems and israelis are training chinese "domestic security" forces, in other words, para-militaries; the regime no longer trusts the army.

the fen qing, or angry youth, movement started on campus but has spread thru the military. people want meritocracy, not nepotism.

[needparalegal]

Do we have a choice in the USA regarding "political system"?

[JohnWoo]

I just came back from a business trip to Shanghai, they're far from "sliding back into Totalitarianism".

[CurtHowland]

04:00 What??? The first revolution in Chinese HISTORY in 19011? WTF?

He doesn't know about the Boxer rebellion? The Taiping Rebellion where one in 20 Chinese were killed? (for comparison the US war of 1861-5 killed 1 in 50)

How about the Manchu invasion before that?

I believe Gordon Chang should stick with modern trends, rather than history.

[Killedkennyagain]

@CurtHowland Perhaps he is talking about revolutions after imperialist China?

[gangliums]

@CurtHowland he is speaking of the public rebulic of china.

[revron77]

I thought I would never say this.... but nice hair cut stef. 

[quantumG]

The editing on these packages is great.

[PHONEYPOLITICS]

what party system do they want - a fake left and right paradigm like the west

[GeminiK]

@PHONEYPOLITICS Presumably, they want a system that's actually free.

[meadowsirl]

you gotta read between the lines when watching stef's videos,

he wants to make china look bad because in reality it is capitalism that is failing and communist china is flushing while becoming the worlds main super power in the next few years.

this annoys poor stef who lives in the free market echo chamber.

[wreagfe]

@meadowsirl Yeah, the famine times were good times... China just shows that totalitarianism can evolve to somewhat more freedom, wealth, happiness. But when the institutions stay in place a country can always revert back into totalitarianism. And yeah, China shows that a relatively more free slave camp can become a super power, you like. *End of feeding the troll (that would be you, yes)*

[SanguineBullet667]

@meadowsirl Um, apparently you do not know squat about china. the country is only communism in name only (and in cases of drugs and criminal punishment). Their economic system is OVERWHELMINGLY capitalist. Please stop polluting the internet with your nonsense. Stefbot has an incredible grasp of most economic matters and I commend him. You talk so lovingly about China yet you know nothing about it. Maybe go live there like I have for 10 years and you'll see the whole picture.

[needparalegal]

@SanguineBullet667 Its actually "Corpitalism" just like in the USA. If you have connections you get the rich contracts.

[mispistoleros]

@meadowsirl, this interview was spot on. here's a few factoids:

-CASS, in conjunction with the Research Center for State Council and Beijing Academy of the CCP, published in Xinhua, 2,932 of china's 3,220 wealthiest (yuan billionaires) are children of senior party officials

-asian development bank, '06, over 300 million live below $2/day

-unemployment is over 20%

-corruption is so rampant, beijing stopped giving macao visas to party cadres

just some of the reasons i call it the CCP Bling Dynasty

[Hashishin13]

@mispistoleros Lol bling dynasty that's funny.

[Marronisince1990]

Money IS the root of all evil... So, so, so wrong... Let's work together to end it. Buy locally - small business's. Let's quit funding the matrix as best we can. We are living in very exciting times.

[tontsa911]

@Marronisince1990 I'm sure our generation does something BIG about the problems with money. This shit simply can't go on.

[cynicist]

@Marronisince1990 Well you have to pay small businesses with money, so I guess you're screwed either way?

[Marronisince1990]

@cynicist Small business will use the money to pay their bills and to fund their families prosperity... Big business's use their money to fund bombs, suppression and mind control. Boycott as many 'major' corporations as possible! Let's do this shit!

[SanguineBullet667]

@Marronisince1990 why do you hate capitalism and success? those large corporations were once small businesses.

[Marronisince1990]

@SanguineBullet667 Because of their dependence on the fake economy and lack of morale values and spiritual understanding that all are one. (I don't hate 'success' at all.)

[SanguineBullet667]

@Marronisince1990 'lack of moral values' ok christian fundamentalist troll. had enough of you.

[Marronisince1990]

@SanguineBullet667 I am not a Christian. I'm a free thinker... I know that might be 'scary' in 2011 but it's the truth. 'anities' and 'isms' are to be evaded at all costs - they limit freedom of thought. Moral values come from within - providing school & TV didn't squeeze them out of you ;) by the way... I'm not on youtube to argue with people. Just trying to reach an understanding. x

[SanguineBullet667]

@Marronisince1990 you sound like a self absorbed yuppie who believes everyone should think like you because you're 'enlightened'. get out of here with that nonsense.

[Marronisince1990]

@SanguineBullet667 Wow... Do you ever run out of judgement & labels & actually have a thoughtful discussion with someone???... Either way that's your right. All the best. (By the way, I do not consider myself enlightened yet. Just rational & growing).

[SanguineBullet667]

@Marronisince1990 YOU'RE THE ONE JUDGING AN ENTIRE COUNTRIES MORALITY gah ridiculous.

[Marronisince1990]

@SanguineBullet667 Did I?... Are you sure? Either way, I'm more than open to being wrong. Who learns from being 'right' all the time?

[GeminiK]

@SanguineBullet667 You miss read him as a christian fundamentalist. He is a Resource Based Economy acolyte who thinks that money (a tool for the important act of trading) is the root of all evil.

Or maybe I'm wrong :P. But still, he's deluded by something.

[SanguineBullet667]

@GeminiK hahaha. good note.

[Barrettatsumaki]

@SanguineBullet667 Corporations like that could not exist in a true capitalist system. Hating those corporations is not the same as hating capitalism.

[MyDormantSoul]

@Barrettatsumaki why couldnt corporations exist in "true capitalism?"

[SanguineBullet667]

@MyDormantSoul he's saying only some particular current orgainzation couldn't exist because they exploit state handouts. however, his statement isn't factual considering we were talking about concepts and not particular companies.

[Barrettatsumaki]

@MyDormantSoul I should rephrase that. Large corporations and multinationals that take home huge long-term profits could not exist. The more of a free market that exists, the harder it is for them to form. Competition would drive them out and they wouldn't receive government assistance and protection that currently allow them to push out new entries.

You could argue that a true capitalist system could never exist, but that is besides the point. If it did, large corporations would not exist.

[SanguineBullet667]

@Barrettatsumaki the current ones, yes. but because of the 'survival of the fittest' mantra of a pure capitalist market, the most successful will indeed rise to the top and retain similar corporate status because of good business measures and reliable production. there will always be a big dog on the lot so to say that corporations cannot exist is this type of environment is assuming that every business will collapse when reaching a certain high level position on the market - which is false.

[Barrettatsumaki]

@SanguineBullet667 They wouldn't collapse; they just wouldn't be able to surpass all other competition in the long-term. They would be able to innovate and gain super-normal profits in the short-term but current competitors and new competitors would be hot on their heels.

"Survival of the fittest" doesn't mean that only one will rise to the top. It just means that those businesses who fail to innovate and to keep up with market changes will die off.

[SanguineBullet667]

@Barrettatsumaki we're both rambling - basically saying the same thing. so i do not see this conversation continuing. the only area of confusion is your statement that corporations of similar/greater status as those currently manipulating the state to stay alive couldn't exist in a pure capitalist system, yet you contradict this by saying otherwise just now. right, right, and right.

[Barrettatsumaki]

@SanguineBullet667 Sorry I don't know what you mean in regards to my "contradiction". 

[SanguineBullet667]

@Barrettatsumaki and 'super-normal' will only, hopefully, decrease to small profits when competition gets on their heels. you're still moving forward and if you do so in a way that gets consumers to consistently be loyal to your company because of good service/product, then there's no reason they couldn't stay on the top instead of fall to some mythical predestination demise that you believe all large corporations go through when competition heats up.

[Barrettatsumaki]

@SanguineBullet667 The key point is that they could only manage this in the short-term. This is not long enough to become like the corporations we see today. Through customer loyalty a corporation may be able to slightly extend its' short-term dominance. However, this could change at the drop of a hat, particularly considering that their products would be replicable.

Furthermore, as I said last time, they won't go to their demise, they simply won't be able to maintain market dominance.

[SanguineBullet667]

@Barrettatsumaki says who? it's entirely possible for a marathon runner to get 1st place every year if he's the best. and putting this into perspective of a corporation (which isn't a biological being) it can continue indefinitely. you're not taking into account that competing corporations aren't the only ones able to adapt to changing market fluctuation. the big dog can adapt just as well, and even better in some cases.

[SanguineBullet667]

@Barrettatsumaki and if you want to see just how and why china has a freer market than the us, search up the user Ksabrs45, video: "Example of How China Has a Freer Market than the US". he speaks mandarin only about the first 30 sec then the rest of the video is in English, so don't just X it out when you hear him speaking mandarin briefly.

[screwopenborders]

@Barrettatsumaki I really doubt there is any innovation to be made. I disagree poor treatment of people will lead to collapse.

[Gizziiusa]

@Marronisince1990 the phrase actually is "the love of money is the root of all evil". but even that one is wrong. Should be the lust instead of love.

[Marronisince1990]

@Gizziiusa Ok, ok, grammatically speaking... I have to agree. You're making perfect sense :-)

[Gizziiusa]

@Marronisince1990 thx. ~good day

[CurtHowland]

@Gizziiusa The true root of all evil is Libido Dominandi, the lust to dominate.

[Gizziiusa]

@CurtHowland Ya, I can agree with you on that. A few months ago I was pondering this and came up with "overwhelming power over other humans", or something to that effect. preety much what you just said, but yours sounds more convincing.

[CurtHowland]

@Gizziiusa Good sir, I assure you, I could never have come up with such a wonderful way of saying it either.

It's from "City of God" by St. Augustine. The same place the story of the Emperor and the Pirate, where the condemned prisoner, brought before Alexander the Great, says, "What I do in my small boat you do to the entire world, yet I am called 'pirate' and sentenced to death, while you are crowned Emperor."

...paraphrased from memory. See the YouTube School House Rock version, it's great.

[Panpiper]

@Marronisince1990 It is scarcity that is the root of the evil that money is associated with, not money. Money is the system we have in place to ration scarcity. Blaming money for scarcity is frankly; really, really stupid. If you want to eliminate the 'evil', eliminate scarcity. But if you eliminate the rationing system without fist eliminating scarcity, you will magnify the evil many orders of magnitude.

[greycloud24]

@Panpiper did you know that diamonds are relatively common? the market is manipulated by a few large dealers in order to regulate how frequently new diamonds enter the market. the fact is that diamonds outlive the person wearing the jewelry, and there are more than enough diamonds for everyone on earth. but they are thought to be rare because they are controlled and regulated. this is demand for money creating scarcity, and it isn't limited to the diamond market.

[Panpiper]

@greycloud24 So you've found a few exceptions to the rule. I suppose that means all you have to do now is eliminate money and presto, there shall exist an infinite number of water side luxury homes, an infinite number of luxury yachts, an infinite number of GFE prostitutes available, for free mind you, an infinite number of blockbuster SciFi movies every week, an infinite number of top line new computer games, etc., etc..

Nonsense. Rise above your ideology and get an education in reality first.

[greycloud24]

@Panpiper i am not saying that scarcity doesn't create value, what i am saying is that our current economic model promotes creating false scarcity. there might not be enough resources for everyone to have luxury yachts, but there is enough resources to feed everyone on earth. and yet there are still people starving to death. our resource allocation model is flawed, and our resource allocation model is capitalism. the system rewards those who turn a common object into a rare commodity.

[rumco]

@greycloud24 Wrong. Capitalism (private property & voluntary exchange) rewards those who best serve others - their customers. It rewards those who make abundant what was scarce before. It does not follow that if I were born in a desert, someone else from "a garden of Eden" must provide me with food.

[asc9nd]

@rumco Capatalism is not free exchange. America is not and never has been built upon capatalism. there isnt a real private property in america for instance nor is there voluntary exchange in any real way unless you are using the black market because the government is pointing guns at everyone. So his point actually has more relavence then you give him credit for and you are dismissing it without addressing his points honostly.

[Xtro2005]

@Xtro2005 Futhermore "moral right" is subjective and determined by an social consensus.

[greycloud24]

@rumco wrong. i have antique furniture that lasts for years, and still works fine today after being over 50 years old. it works better than my furniture that is only 10 years old in fact (dresser drawers and the like). go look at the term "Planned obsolescence" it is used in the majority of business models that produce goods today. your definition of capitalism works, but that is not the model that is actually used. and your model has no protection for intellectual rights.

[greycloud24]

it does not follow that if i were born in a garden of eden that i have more human dignity or more human rights than someone who was born in a desert. all humans owe each other respect and humanity. to disregard this is to waive your rights to it. the rich man who watches the poor man starve to death, has no right to complain when a poor man kills him and takes his food.

[Xtro2005]

@greycloud24 At the end of the day, despite your belief in the "have not's" justification for violence, the "haves" will ultimately defend themselves seeing these attacks as unwarranted. Give that having food will make an awesome bargaining tool the savagery of the "have nots" will be beaten back by those now in the service of the "haves". Clearly violence isn't the solution.

[Xtro2005]

@greycloud24 If you visit a country for humanitarian purposes and a starving man kills you for your cash is he justified in his actions?

[LibertyDownUnder]

@rumco, well said.

[Moragauth]

@LibertyDownUnder

[Panpiper]

@greycloud24 Fail. The only places in the world where there is significant starvation are those places where little to no free market has been 'allowed' to exist due to the action of governments or warlords. It is the free market that creates the goods you covet, it is not the free market that keeps them from you. From your skewed perspective, all we would have to do is eliminate freedom altogether, and then the land will flow with milk and honey.

[greycloud24]

@Panpiper "due to the action of governments and warlords". yes, but those governments and warlords are often supported by capitalist countries who use this as a way to exploit the poor countries for resources. take a look at history. the richest countries are propped up by controlling and exploiting the poorest countries. the poor countries are kept controlled by tyranny and infighting instigated by the rich countries. truly free markets always result in monopoly.

[Panpiper]

@greycloud24 They are indeed often supported by the 'governments' of those 'crony' capitalist countries whose special interests lobby government to use force for their favor. I absolutely agree with you. The problem is granting government the authority to use force at all, in support of such special interests. A truly free market does not allow any such force, none. The capitalism you deride really has nothing at all to do with free markets. It is in truth fascism, not capitalism.

[Xtro2005]

@Panpiper  And why the moniker of "capitalist countries"? Are we to conflate the economic freedoms of the people with the choices of a clearly interventionist state for the sake of sound argumentation?

[Panpiper]

@Xtro2005 I did not say 'capitalist countries', I said "'crony' capitalist countries".

There is only so much precision possible in a 500 character comment. If I was to be absolutely precise in every statement I make on Youtube, I would have to write 5000 word essays instead.

[carefulcarpenter]

@Panpiper LOL!!! The 500 character governor-- you have the right to unlimited free expression-- in sound bites!! LOL!!

[greycloud24]

@Panpiper hmm, sounds like we agree at the core fix of the problem. although i think that there needs to be some checks and balances on the free market. this is mainly so that research and development still stay useful. it wouldn't be ok for a company to pay huge sums of money researching a new product only to have it copied and created by another company that spent no effort in research and development. also there should be no monopolies in order to create competition for innovation.

[jeffiek]

@greycloud24 Do you realize you're promoting your nonsense on YouTube? It's owned by Google.

Heard of them? The company that got really, really, big by creating artificial scarcity for their product.



[greycloud24]

@Panpiper did you know that exclusive clubs thrive off of scarcity for membership? they could have more members, but that would reduce scarcity and thus demand. this is why exclusive clubs limit membership, it makes sure that the few memberships available have more value. the same happens in limited edition items. the factories could create more, but they don't. this is the demand for money creating scarcity, but it isn't just limited to clubs, vehicles, and movies. food for thought.

[greycloud24]

@Panpiper did you know that the walt disney stops creating replicas of videos until there are anniversaries of the video's release? you can find stuff like the cinderella 40th anniversary edition as well as all of the other classic walt disney movies. they do this in order to reduce the amount of videos out there, thus keeping the videos rare and driving up demand. this is another example of the demand for money creating scarcity. but that is actually common in any free market.

[fructoric]

Facepalm.

[SanguineBullet667]

@stefminus and the economy is more important to me (and most people) more-so than another person's 'liberty' to smoke marijuana. social politics are not as nearly as important as economic politics. the social political changes will come eventually, but it's more important to set your economic foundation responsibly than to pander to the hippies.

[SanguineBullet667]

@stefminus considering they're an economic powerhouse with more market freedom than us, they're doing something right. china is communist in name only, capitalist at heart.

[SunBeamsan]

@SanguineBullet667 I'm not sure they have 'more' freedom than us. They may have more economic freedom because of lax regulations and subsidies in business, but you will still have your baby kicked out of you if you''re caught having a second one, and you will still be kidnapped and sent to a re-education camp if you saying anything the regime deems to be subversion to state authority. Stefan would probably have never developed like he has in Canada had he been born under the rule of that regime.

[SanguineBullet667]

@SunBeamsan did i not specify 'economic freedom'? please don't put words in my mouth.

[dabruin2]

@SunBeamsan this assertion of the second baby kicked out is absurd.

[SunBeamsan]

@dabruin2 No so, it was common practice at the peek of Mao's Cultural Revolution and Great Leap Forward schemes. A total of 70 million people are estimated to have died from famine and execution under the Chinese Communist Party regime, statistics which they themselves hold.

[SunBeamsan]

It looks like you're somewhere in the Southwestern United States. Is this recent? o:

[themetalhead667]

this would result in a total global economic collapse

[SanguineBullet667]

lesser of two evils anyone?

[SanguineBullet667]

even the worst totalitarian governments are better than democracy. i'll take china over america any day.

[Punisher33100]

firstly, china never left Totalitarianism, they freakin have death trucks where if you brake a law like drugs, your druged off into the night your exicuted in these vans, so. yea no they always were there a fucking communist state.

[Ksabrs45]

I think the general dialogue on China needs to be clarified such that people in the West understand that an economic downturn in China will not resemble what's going on in the US or Europe - with a lost generation, zero growth and no hope. More like a technical recession - several quarters of contracting growth. To some extent failing to clarify this reassures Americans and others that, "See, its not just us! There's no where to go so I might as well not consider leaving!"

[chitchcott]

That doesn't look like Canada

[order9066]

No mention of britain's interference in China's sovereignty? The british introduced opium to China.

[Wh47n0w1517]

@order9066

Opium war was because of a trade imbalance and now what China has been doing in our time as well, they have been artificially holding the value of their money down and so we are always buying from them because they can do goods more cheaply. Also, like fools the West have been artificially holding the value of their money up, now that lie is coming to an end and are in big trouble with the economies.

[god0fgod]

Collapse of the communist party in the next 3 months?

[LJPpro]

Haven't watched yet but I'm all for this in person face to face interview method.

[brush200400]

second!

[californiarednek]

First view? Hell yeah.