It's like golf. Fans, semi-pro and professional players will APPRECIATE what they observe in a game because they understand how the game works on a much deeper level than a casual person. The average guy sitting in a bar will probably bitch and complain about how boring golf is and how it takes too long sometimes for a guy to even take a swing, how most of the time none of the shots even land anywhere near the hole. However, point is, you play to win, and a lot of the time it won't look pretty.
People who complain all the fireball "spamming" don't really understand how the game works. Each character has his own useful abilities and attacks and so be it, Guide and Ryu have very good projectiles. But damn it, can't you see they're not just throwing them out RANDOMLY and mashing fireball motions? There is a lot of mindgames and risks involve (should I throw a slow fireball or a fast one? how should I distance myself so I don't get jumped in?).
How is this getting thumbs down? Christpunchers is absolutely right. Do you see how Guile stops Ryu's hadoken with sonic boom and then punishes with a backfist? And Ryu's goal throughout the fight is often his corner fireball trap, which is one of his strengths. Simply trapping the opponent in the corner isn't the ideal strategy for the win, but if you mix your fireballs properly and properly space yourself you can punish them when they fail to escape. He's not the only one with tricks like that
When it comes down to it a game is there for having fun. Winning is fun, but if you sell your sole to winning and forget to appreciate the variation and capabilities which make this game so great in the first place, then they no longer carry ass much value to me. It's like using T Hawk. You have to work seriously hard for the same result and it's a real waste of time and effort considering you can easily win with others- HOWEVER, it is fucking rewarding and great fun, as well as being satisfying
If ALL you are concerned with is winning, ok, but I like to enjoy the nature of a generally improvised style which doesn't rely so intensivly on only the best possible move for the job, especially when that move is so consistently the same one.
I love to win, but I hate to bore others as well as myself. I'd rather die trying to beast someone when it's not entirely appropriate than win this way. Likewise I enjoy using unusual characters, for example Rose, Dan and Mika are my Alpha 3 chars.
Too many nubs making comments and not knowing anything. Either fight the best way you can or die. Being fancy to make a match look "nice" will end you faster.
And yes putting your head on the line trying to go all out offensive is always going to make you more likely to lose. But so what? I play almost 100% offensively with Boxer regardless of if I'm playing someone like Zangief (against whom with Balrog it's practically suicide unless you're as good as Daigo). The point is I want to kick some ass and simply winning and kicking ass are not the same. I'd rather lose and fight nicely than win and just be functional, it's very tedious.
Geez, you guys sound like lady friend. If the move works then use it dammit. It's stupid just to stop using an effective move (cuz it's cheap) and just jump in trying to do something else if it's just gonna get your ass kicked. And the hadoken is not cheap. It has more lag time then the Sonic Boom and when it's dodged can leave Ryu wide open for an attack. Hado is useful for safe long-range attacks, and there's no reason not to use it.
It's not the point as to whether or not the Hadoken is perfect. Rather it's extremely boring to watch any character do any move (especially the most predictable and successful one) over and over again. I know nobody wants to lose, but why bother winning in a way which is boring? It's not fun- which is the point of playing in the first place. Although I did think this fight was quite good, so many fireballs is always going to be quite tedious.
They weren't playing to please you. They were playing to advance in a tournament. If you don't find the pressure in a battle between two good players to be exciting enough, then why bother to comment? Should a boxer in a ring jump around like Bruce Lee and start doing spinning kicks just because it's boring watching two guys covering their faces with their fists all round?
@ the end of second round where guile's life bar was very close to its end, the ryu player should've fired a slow and then fast fireball.. would've probably ended the match..
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Ryu was the cheapest of all street fighters!!! I remember that imfamous haduken spam which even the mighty Daigo does. Ryu is cheap cheap cheap cheap cheap in SF2 =)
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jijdoify 3 days ago
the second round was awesome xDDD
TDuD3 3 months ago
ROUND 3..EEK!!
rocknflip66 6 months ago
First time EVER that I saw Mute doing a noob move
rashalfarid 9 months ago
Wow..baited that super out perfectly at 1:52
Blaze2588 10 months ago
Kurahashi demonstrates the pure helpfulness of "safe jumps". Good match
XxGonixXFAN 1 year ago
man round 2 was tense!
catharticarrest 1 year ago
DAMN. guile made a HUGE comeback in round 2.
someguyhunter 1 year ago
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むてガイルって下手糞だなぁ～
負けそうになると行動がパターン化してるｗ
ataiha 2 years ago
@ataiha
まあ上手ではないよねｗ
yukippu 1 year ago
I like when they both blow their supers one after another in the second round.
Makingnewnamesisdumb 2 years ago
It's like golf. Fans, semi-pro and professional players will APPRECIATE what they observe in a game because they understand how the game works on a much deeper level than a casual person. The average guy sitting in a bar will probably bitch and complain about how boring golf is and how it takes too long sometimes for a guy to even take a swing, how most of the time none of the shots even land anywhere near the hole. However, point is, you play to win, and a lot of the time it won't look pretty.
christpunchers 2 years ago 14
People who complain all the fireball "spamming" don't really understand how the game works. Each character has his own useful abilities and attacks and so be it, Guide and Ryu have very good projectiles. But damn it, can't you see they're not just throwing them out RANDOMLY and mashing fireball motions? There is a lot of mindgames and risks involve (should I throw a slow fireball or a fast one? how should I distance myself so I don't get jumped in?).
christpunchers 2 years ago 11
How is this getting thumbs down? Christpunchers is absolutely right. Do you see how Guile stops Ryu's hadoken with sonic boom and then punishes with a backfist? And Ryu's goal throughout the fight is often his corner fireball trap, which is one of his strengths. Simply trapping the opponent in the corner isn't the ideal strategy for the win, but if you mix your fireballs properly and properly space yourself you can punish them when they fail to escape. He's not the only one with tricks like that
Makingnewnamesisdumb 2 years ago 4
When it comes down to it a game is there for having fun. Winning is fun, but if you sell your sole to winning and forget to appreciate the variation and capabilities which make this game so great in the first place, then they no longer carry ass much value to me. It's like using T Hawk. You have to work seriously hard for the same result and it's a real waste of time and effort considering you can easily win with others- HOWEVER, it is fucking rewarding and great fun, as well as being satisfying
meatflowers 3 years ago
You suck at street fighter, go play tekken or some shit
kingoffighterz 2 years ago
If ALL you are concerned with is winning, ok, but I like to enjoy the nature of a generally improvised style which doesn't rely so intensivly on only the best possible move for the job, especially when that move is so consistently the same one.
I love to win, but I hate to bore others as well as myself. I'd rather die trying to beast someone when it's not entirely appropriate than win this way. Likewise I enjoy using unusual characters, for example Rose, Dan and Mika are my Alpha 3 chars.
meatflowers 3 years ago
Too many nubs making comments and not knowing anything. Either fight the best way you can or die. Being fancy to make a match look "nice" will end you faster.
BombermanGold 3 years ago
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And yes putting your head on the line trying to go all out offensive is always going to make you more likely to lose. But so what? I play almost 100% offensively with Boxer regardless of if I'm playing someone like Zangief (against whom with Balrog it's practically suicide unless you're as good as Daigo). The point is I want to kick some ass and simply winning and kicking ass are not the same. I'd rather lose and fight nicely than win and just be functional, it's very tedious.
meatflowers 4 years ago
then you sir are clearly a fucking idiot, if you rather lose than win you have no buissness playing the game.
heywhatsup65 2 years ago 2
Geez, you guys sound like lady friend. If the move works then use it dammit. It's stupid just to stop using an effective move (cuz it's cheap) and just jump in trying to do something else if it's just gonna get your ass kicked. And the hadoken is not cheap. It has more lag time then the Sonic Boom and when it's dodged can leave Ryu wide open for an attack. Hado is useful for safe long-range attacks, and there's no reason not to use it.
MaximusDread 4 years ago
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It's not the point as to whether or not the Hadoken is perfect. Rather it's extremely boring to watch any character do any move (especially the most predictable and successful one) over and over again. I know nobody wants to lose, but why bother winning in a way which is boring? It's not fun- which is the point of playing in the first place. Although I did think this fight was quite good, so many fireballs is always going to be quite tedious.
meatflowers 4 years ago
these guys are really, really skillfull in their use of Hadoken and Sonic Boom, and there's a lot going on in these exchanges.
I was really blown away by this video.
aaaaaaaaooooooo 3 years ago
They weren't playing to please you. They were playing to advance in a tournament. If you don't find the pressure in a battle between two good players to be exciting enough, then why bother to comment? Should a boxer in a ring jump around like Bruce Lee and start doing spinning kicks just because it's boring watching two guys covering their faces with their fists all round?
christpunchers 2 years ago 4
I love Kurahashi's play style.
sisimarubenkei 4 years ago 3
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jesus, spam some more hadukens o.O
Hellsing3 5 years ago
still love this game
cybertrano 5 years ago
@ the end of second round where guile's life bar was very close to its end, the ryu player should've fired a slow and then fast fireball.. would've probably ended the match..
damnU2 5 years ago
hey Badguy45 I guess you lost lost lost to Ryu a lot!
Metn2003 5 years ago
Fighting shotokan tortoises like Kirahashi and Daigo must be hard on Muteki.
SeventhSun 5 years ago
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Ryu was the cheapest of all street fighters!!! I remember that imfamous haduken spam which even the mighty Daigo does. Ryu is cheap cheap cheap cheap cheap in SF2 =)
BadGuy45 5 years ago
There are some Japanese who still enjoy this game like me :)
mnemosyne32 5 years ago 3
Woohw... this brings back memories... :)
Gg :)
DuoHeathcliff 5 years ago