This is scarfaces other channel. You could be right. however in a gunfight the zero could possibly win, remember its stall speed is far lower then the F-22s. It would be a long shot of course though.
@lordserf And? Modern jets have radar! They can "see" over a hundred miles and certain missiles can shoot that far the ww2 aircraft don’t have ECM countermeasures chaff or flares. They would be blown out of the sky before they even saw the modern jets.
@Gemini838 Dogfights don't involve missiles and rader. What is fought now is just seeing who has the faster computer. If it really came down to a test of skill the WW2 era planes would have a higher chance of taking out a modern jet. They are smaller, slower and can turn tighter than any jet we use today. The only fighter today that would stand any chance in an ACTUAL dogfight would be the F-22 and thats only because of it thrust-vectoring. The new planes would fall at the slower speeds.
@lordserf It’s not the only jet to have thrust vectoring these jets also have it: Boeing X-32, Sukhoi Su-30MKI, Sukhoi Su-30MKM, Mikoyan MiG-29OVT (MiG-35), Sukhoi Su-35BM, Sukhoi Su-37, Sukhoi PAK FA, McDonnell Douglas F-15S/MTD and the Lockheed Martin F-16 VISTA. Also ANY modern jet could win in a vertical plane dogfight because of their higher Power to weight ratio.
@lordserf It’s not the only jet to have thrust vectoring these jets also have it: Boeing X-32, Sukhoi Su-30MKI, Sukhoi Su-30MKM, Mikoyan MiG-29OVT (MiG-35), Sukhoi Su-35BM, Sukhoi Su-37, Sukhoi PAK FA, McDonnell Douglas F-15S/MTD and the Lockheed Martin F-16 VISTA. Also ANY modern jet could win in a vertical plane dogfight because of their higher Power to weight ratio. Not only that they can all fly a hell of a lot higher and faster, accelerate / decelerate faster,
@lordserf Sorry ran out of room! Will have better armament, have head up displays. The ww2 planes don’t stand a chance even if they did get behind a jet like an F-16 the F-16 pilot would just throw on the afterburners and go vertical. Oh and fun fact the F-16 can accelerate whilst climbing vertically which no ww2 plane can match!
@Gemini838 Okay, here you go. In dogfights its not a vertical fight. It's a turning fight. Planes, no matter how good, cant go straight vertical from a turn. Plus, in dogfights you dont wait untill your right on the six of the enemy, you fire as your turning, its called leading the target. Trust me I'm no pilot but I've talked to enough to know what I'm talking about.
@Gemini838 And I'm not saying that none of those planes exsist but I have never heard of any of those that you named save for a couple and only one of those I've seen in reality. The other I've only seen in the Ace Combat games.
@lordserf Trust me I AM a pilot! Ok helicopters not jets but I have a lot of friends who fly jets! One of my friends fly’s the Eurofighter and on one occasion has taken off, gone vertical and reached 30,000 ft whilst still directly over the runway! Also his jet can go from a 7G turn to vertical without stalling! (Lynx in case you’re wondering)
@lordserf Oh and another thing how are you supposed to calculate the lead of a fighter jet travelling at high trans-sonic speeds with un-radar assisted gun sights and machine guns/ cannons that fire rounds at a mere 700 – 1000 Rounds per minute.
@Gemini838 Okay I think I'm right and you think that you're right so how about we just agree to disagree. I'm partial to the WW2 fighters therefore I'm going to be a little biased.
@Black8035 well there was a development of a 747 called the YB-1 or something like that where it had a tracking and secondary heated laser and it was designed to shoot down ballistic missiles. I know they did tests with it at Edwards AFB but i think it got scrubbed due to money
if you guys had ever played airforce delta strike for the PS2, downing modern advanced fighter jets with WWII prop planes is nothing new to ya.
gundamnduke0 1 month ago
always downing sulejmani with my trusty zero
gundamnduke0 1 month ago
Who the hell tries to shoot down a J-10 and a MIG-29 with a FUCKING ZERO
d3athfr0mab0v3 1 month ago 3
@d3athfr0mab0v3 Someone with balls
caseygtr 1 month ago
@d3athfr0mab0v3 Chuck Norris
6586shadow 3 weeks ago
this game blows, the bosses are too crazy and too hard for my taste
gundamnduke0 1 month ago
gay game
mikemasofky 1 month ago
yo pienso q ba a ganar el zero xD
monito99999 1 month ago
GAF-1 Varcolac aganist ZERO ! hahahaha I'm having so much fun !
ag925baron 2 months ago 3
I like that Zero aircraft. /look at my name.
zeron82411 2 months ago
I'll dare anyone to try complete the campaign only with the F6F-5 or A6M Zero
kelvinchewjw 3 months ago
hey i finished the mission in central asia with a zero
carlpailmao1 7 months ago
you know i destroyed that "SPIRIDUS" the big plane at the start with just a hellcat
deathprize88 8 months ago
a F6F-5 taking down a typooh....... wtf ace combat is my frav plane game but this is fucking stupid!
tbows7 9 months ago
they should have put p-51 mustang in this. Too bad :|..........
fenrir601 10 months ago 5
@fenrir601 The Japanese didn't want to put in anything definitively better than the Zero.
ps3specter 5 months ago
they should have put p-51 mustang in this. Too bad :|
fenrir601 10 months ago
pega 12?
kingratliff129 10 months ago
@kingratliff129
pegi 12 is the age restriction for England, It's like E10+ in America, or Ab 12 in Germany
BOOST15673 9 months ago
i'll try killing an su-47 with a fokker triplane......i think were a good match
langkaers09 10 months ago 2
F-22 versus Zero? whos gonna win?
scarface8999 1 year ago 33
@scarface8999 F-22 hand down.
MaxterandKiwiKing 4 months ago
@scarface8999 Whoops,I ment F-22 hands down.sry for the typo.
MaxterandKiwiKing 4 months ago
@MaxterandKiwiKing
This is scarfaces other channel. You could be right. however in a gunfight the zero could possibly win, remember its stall speed is far lower then the F-22s. It would be a long shot of course though.
TheDuvalMilitia 4 months ago
@TheDuvalMilitia True,but,the f-22 could take out the zero without the zero knowing what hit it with its long range AIM 7 sparrow missiles.
MaxterandKiwiKing 4 months ago
@MaxterandKiwiKing
That is true
TheDuvalMilitia 4 months ago
Yah, you know....
Just gonna shoot down a Typhoon in a Zero....
thbs35 1 year ago 23
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Gemini838 1 year ago
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Gemini838 1 year ago
Oh yeh like im supposed to believe that WW2 Aircraft could take on modern jets!
Gemini838 1 year ago
@Gemini838 Actually they could because they are slower they have a tighter turn radius and they don't give off as much heat as jets do.
lordserf 1 year ago
@lordserf And? Modern jets have radar! They can "see" over a hundred miles and certain missiles can shoot that far the ww2 aircraft don’t have ECM countermeasures chaff or flares. They would be blown out of the sky before they even saw the modern jets.
Gemini838 1 year ago
@Gemini838 Dogfights don't involve missiles and rader. What is fought now is just seeing who has the faster computer. If it really came down to a test of skill the WW2 era planes would have a higher chance of taking out a modern jet. They are smaller, slower and can turn tighter than any jet we use today. The only fighter today that would stand any chance in an ACTUAL dogfight would be the F-22 and thats only because of it thrust-vectoring. The new planes would fall at the slower speeds.
lordserf 1 year ago
@lordserf It’s not the only jet to have thrust vectoring these jets also have it: Boeing X-32, Sukhoi Su-30MKI, Sukhoi Su-30MKM, Mikoyan MiG-29OVT (MiG-35), Sukhoi Su-35BM, Sukhoi Su-37, Sukhoi PAK FA, McDonnell Douglas F-15S/MTD and the Lockheed Martin F-16 VISTA. Also ANY modern jet could win in a vertical plane dogfight because of their higher Power to weight ratio.
Gemini838 1 year ago
@lordserf It’s not the only jet to have thrust vectoring these jets also have it: Boeing X-32, Sukhoi Su-30MKI, Sukhoi Su-30MKM, Mikoyan MiG-29OVT (MiG-35), Sukhoi Su-35BM, Sukhoi Su-37, Sukhoi PAK FA, McDonnell Douglas F-15S/MTD and the Lockheed Martin F-16 VISTA. Also ANY modern jet could win in a vertical plane dogfight because of their higher Power to weight ratio. Not only that they can all fly a hell of a lot higher and faster, accelerate / decelerate faster,
Gemini838 1 year ago
@lordserf Sorry ran out of room! Will have better armament, have head up displays. The ww2 planes don’t stand a chance even if they did get behind a jet like an F-16 the F-16 pilot would just throw on the afterburners and go vertical. Oh and fun fact the F-16 can accelerate whilst climbing vertically which no ww2 plane can match!
Gemini838 1 year ago
@Gemini838 Okay, here you go. In dogfights its not a vertical fight. It's a turning fight. Planes, no matter how good, cant go straight vertical from a turn. Plus, in dogfights you dont wait untill your right on the six of the enemy, you fire as your turning, its called leading the target. Trust me I'm no pilot but I've talked to enough to know what I'm talking about.
lordserf 1 year ago
@Gemini838 So can the F-22
thedude23isroblox 1 year ago
@Gemini838 And I'm not saying that none of those planes exsist but I have never heard of any of those that you named save for a couple and only one of those I've seen in reality. The other I've only seen in the Ace Combat games.
lordserf 1 year ago
@lordserf Trust me I AM a pilot! Ok helicopters not jets but I have a lot of friends who fly jets! One of my friends fly’s the Eurofighter and on one occasion has taken off, gone vertical and reached 30,000 ft whilst still directly over the runway! Also his jet can go from a 7G turn to vertical without stalling! (Lynx in case you’re wondering)
Gemini838 1 year ago
@lordserf Oh and another thing how are you supposed to calculate the lead of a fighter jet travelling at high trans-sonic speeds with un-radar assisted gun sights and machine guns/ cannons that fire rounds at a mere 700 – 1000 Rounds per minute.
Gemini838 1 year ago
@Gemini838 Okay I think I'm right and you think that you're right so how about we just agree to disagree. I'm partial to the WW2 fighters therefore I'm going to be a little biased.
lordserf 1 year ago
@lordserf Okay that sounds fair! :)
Gemini838 1 year ago
finally, an ace combat PSP game other than ace combat x
dannyfalkan 1 year ago
Got the game today and already got fenrir
remix6392 1 year ago
Best game ever
AK1337H 1 year ago
@AK1337H NO ITS DEFINETLY NOT THE BEST. ACECOMBAT 5 WAS THE BEST. MORE AIRCRAFT THAN THIS ONE
Acecombatgamer 1 year ago
@Acecombatgamer I've always wanted to get that game.
AK1337H 1 year ago
@Acecombatgamer 5 and zero both.
rzdemon1 1 year ago
Why dont they have you fight a super carrier. maybe give it four catapults and two landing strips.
excaliber2010 1 year ago
The HELLCAT and the ZERO. Awesome!!!!!!!!!
USSWISCONSIN64 1 year ago
*speech less*
iskandarzul98 1 year ago
I allready unlocked both of the aircraft and the 747 as well as the GAF-Vorcaloc
EliteWalkers01 1 year ago
@EliteWalkers01 Using WW2 planes and a civilian aircraft to take down modern aircraft is just ridiculous.
Black8035 1 year ago
@Black8035 yea I know but a real ace can do that in the game
EliteWalkers01 1 year ago
@Black8035 well using theWWII planes not the 747
EliteWalkers01 1 year ago
@EliteWalkers01 You've said that you unlocked the 747, but how do you use that in combat? That thing can't fire missiles or bullets.
I'd expect that from Ubisoft Romania (HAWX franchise), but not from Namco >_> .
Black8035 1 year ago
@Black8035 Yea you can't use it in combat you'll be flying with Hopes and Dreams with a Boeing 747
Theres a special mission in the game that you will use the 747 you'll gonna be flying the 747 in the cannons in 400ft without an escort
EliteWalkers01 1 year ago
@EliteWalkers01 Ah, I see. Sounds challenging.
Black8035 1 year ago
@Black8035 If I were namco I would include a special weapon to the 747 like an ECM Jammer for Missiles (Missile Deflector)
EliteWalkers01 1 year ago
@EliteWalkers01 I guess that would make more sense.
Black8035 1 year ago
@Black8035 well there was a development of a 747 called the YB-1 or something like that where it had a tracking and secondary heated laser and it was designed to shoot down ballistic missiles. I know they did tests with it at Edwards AFB but i think it got scrubbed due to money
xxREDLEADER1xx 1 year ago
@xxREDLEADER1xx They're still working on the Laser part on a different Platform
EnterpriseKnight 1 year ago
@xxREDLEADER1xx It's called the YAL-1 they're still testing it.
SuaveTito 1 year ago
still giant airships??
great, maybe assault horrizon has them too!
ikuzakesuf 1 year ago
@ikuzakesuf I hope so. They are fun to fight.
oneupdawg 1 year ago