I like the places you take my thoughts in this video and I'd like more videos to be like this one. Maybe something we can see on Crash Course? An extra credit assignment. ;)
English evil baby orphanage candidate - Oliver Cromwell. If you don't know who he is, search his name into Google.
Scottish evil baby orphanage candidate - whoever thought it was EVER a good idea to marry Mary Queen of Scots off so many times, instead of forming a coalition kingdom with England by marrying the King's son.
I was in Venice two months later...urgh if only I Hadnt had my operation in June and i could have gone at the same time and bumped into you and been all HAPPY. Venice is pretty awesome in itself though :)
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I know Im alittle behind in this discussion. Regardless, I wanted to add that the irish playwright Martin McDonagh (who also wrote the movie "In Bruges") wrote a play called "The Pillowman" which sorta touches on this idea of time-travel to prevent horrible lives from ever happening. Its extraordinarily sad and rather creepy, but thought-provoking nonetheless. You should definitely check it out if you want some more to ponder in this same vein.
LOL..I didn't hear the bit about him being in Venice, and was very focused on the background. I was all "Ezio could so climb this place!" It was oddly familiar. Then I looked at the description...
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If you have a time machine, then you could hypothetically just go back in time over and over until you get it right. As far as we know, someone is doing that right now. Think about it, if time changes, then to us it always has happened as it happened, so we would not notice a change in history. We would think it had always been that way.
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you realise, John that if you you remove baby Adolph Hitler you would indirectly cause the creation of the 51st state... This state would be called Jefferson and would take up parts of northern California and southern Oregon. The fact is that the day that Jefferson had declared itself a state was the same day that Pearl Harbor was bombed... Everyone was so distracted with Hawaii that no one ran a story about Jefferson becoming a state. Thusly Jefferson remains a state of mind and never real.
There is no need for exiling bad people from the world but rather exiling the situations and actions that cause these people to be bad. When one is a child they all have the opportunity to be good people. It is simply the experiences that they encounter along the way that cause them to make bad decisions. For example, rejection has caused people to be ashamed and then get revenge some way or another (look at osama bin laden and hitler).
the EBO is for hitlers pepole who cause (yes i know he was not alone) large amounts of deaths(millions), and we should have extra great pepole be incharge of raseing them (mother teresa). that is my awsome idea for the EBO!!!
New thought (at least to me) on the EBO- WHAT IF, by placing all of these evil babies into the EBO they then get all depressed and what-not about being "unwanted" by parents and then go on to you know... be evil. OR- what do we do about sociopath/psychotic babies? Seeing as they can either go good or bad depending on their upbringing- placing them in the EBO could have the same "unwanted" effect... Just a thought....
Dear John and Hank, i was just wondering if having a baby evil Orphanage is good. What I mean to say is that we are human beings that learn by errors. So if we follow this idea having someone like let say Hitler, Beverly Allit or Vlad the Impaler is technically a sort of good thing. Now i'm not saying what they did is a good thing put that they are nessesary for or growth as human beings. If the Holocaust had never happen I am sure we would have not grown in a way that we need to like compacion
Waait. Wait, wait. The US was the first representative democracy, like, in the world. If there was no representative democracy in the US, it's fairly likely that there wouldn't be one in Canada, either. Not to mention, had the US never detatched itself from Europe, there would be no Monroe Doctrine, and it's likely as not the whole continent would still be under European control.
Is imagining a possible past a kind of nostalgia? XD But seriously, aren't all of the evil babies and non-evil babies and the we-aren't-exactly-sure babies really just part of the world's natural cultural evolution? Would removing one evil baby prevent another one from existing? And even if we grant that removing one person from an equation would do something like prevent a war - can we be in any way sure that this would be a positive overall change? See, this is why the Prime Directive exists.
There should be a separate orphanage, for people like George Washington, who didn't do anthing bad but the world would probably be better off without him. The Good Baby Orphanage?
This is why there are so many books and movies exploring the idea of changing history! Because you never know exactly what the results of your actions will be, so something you perceive as "good" may have worse repercussions in the long run than a different path you could have taken. I don't argue that Hitler and others weren't terrible people, but some good will almost always come out of an event that was bad, even if it isn't immediately obvious.
on the subject of perpetuating slavery- would poor Eli Whitney become a candidate? his intention was to bring about an end of slavery and ended up (in all likelihood) extending it by about, what? 80 years?
Not sure if that was a good or bad comment about Canada, but i just wanted to say-- at what time in history would the orphanage take place? and I don't know how their parents would react seeing as most probably don't belong in an "orphan"age.
@applespice01 i dont think the parents would react well under any circumstances, as the plan IS to kidnap thebabies. Alternatively, we could just break up the evil babies' parents before the evil babies are concieved.
1) America still had some pretty good beer before prohabition. we won many awards. 2) George Washington, no genius but he was pretty good at fighting wars. As for who's a good canidate for the evil baby orphanage if Hitler and Nepolian(I think I spelled that right) are in there we might as well go by crazy people with one... y'know
@toastvp2010 hi I just want to interrupt your argument; yes Hitler was a terrible person and he killed thousands of people, but it was because of the war that womens rights exist. If you take away Hitler then you take away the war, therefore you take away the world we live in today where women in most societies have free will.
I think the man who takes the (evil) babies from their mothers should be sent and therefor unable to go back in time to get the evil babies which makes him not evil so he shouldn't be in the orphanage in the first place. AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH paradoxes
@ILoveDrakeAndJosh Oh, I didn't catch that part! Thank you for clearing that up. It would have also drastically changed the way we think about politics (states' rights v. federal rights), race relations, and civil rights issues.
omigosh omigosh Omigosh OMIGOSH!!!!!! If you pause the video at 0:35 you will notice that it is the same spot where they filmed that one bit of Doctor who thats in the trailer for the vampires of venice. Just thought you should know. :D
I think this is a really interesting topic to discuss. Although John is correct in saying that delaying the separation from Britain would greatly change the direction of US history, it doesn't necessarily mean that the transatlantic slave trade (which began with Europeans) would end nor does it mean that international slave labor (for imports/exports etc.) would end either. I think that was a bit of a jump. Or maybe I missed something.
@jasminisatreehugger yeah you did miss something XP he's saying slvery would've ended in america earlier because Britain was the nation that initially said "hey slavery sucks, don't do it anymore" and they basically went and stopped slavery everywhere. If america was their colony and people from Britain kept moving over there, the americans might've adopted this mind-set early on and easily went along with the no slave policy. And then the civil war would've never happened.
In regards to the question candidacy for the EBO, and the complexity of history, I cannot help but think of the (fictitious?) example of Gellert Grindelwald vs Albus Dumbledore. GG was evil, yes, but if he'd been in the EBO he wouldn't have met AD, and Ariana wouldn't have died, which means AD may not have reformed, which means that if GG had been in the EBO, AD might have become a Dark Lord, and thus we would have to go back again and put him in the EBO too and who knows where that'd leave us.
Or maybe nerdfighters from the future create an evil baby orphanage and the effects are so significant they cause a parallel universe to form? In that scenario, we are stuck in this universe and even if we create an evil baby orphanage, it won't effect us.
The idea of this orphanage is great, but there is no such thing as an evil baby. The entire concept of the evil baby orphanage is, in fact, based on the belief that there is no such thing as an evil baby, since presumably the goal is to raise the "evil" babies in such a way as to prevent them from becoming evil. I feel like it should be renamed. The obvious name is the potentially evil baby orphanage, but that's a mouthful, so if anyone else has ideas they would be welcome.
If George Washington was, in fact, prehabilitated at the Evil Baby Orphanage, what's to stop another George-Washitarian figure to emerge? The Revolutionary War was nbound to happen sooner or later, and George Washington was just there, in a position of power. If not him, it would have been someone else.
If it was somehow revealed that John and Hank were good candidates for the evil baby orphanage and were brought there, would that destroy time, as it would have destroyed the evil baby orphanage they were brought to?
am I the only one who notices the billboard in the background at 0:24 that says "PASTA!"? someone in Venice is a Hetalia fan! ... I just translated it. it says Pasta is what you're made of...
if the result of your actions is bad/evil..................doesn't mean that you are bad/evil.
good people often try to do the right thing........but it gets messed up along the way and it screws over the world....the goal might be a good one..........but after many years if you come to think about it, it wasn't worth it...................like every war or revolution in the history....nobody won, everyone lost, resources and lives
I thing the civil war would actually still happen. Because even though slavery was a big part of the war, it was also a sectionalism battle. The south not only wanted slavery but they wanted more representation. The east coast states (mostly South Carolina) wanted tarrifs to be less and yet they kept rising. At the same time the west wanted more help with their crops and they wanted more roads to sell crops in the west but they weren't getting enough money to do so. It just wouldn't be as bad.
I don't agree with the evil baby orphanage in the first place. The more and more we try to pre-empt events or outcomes, the more paranoid we get as a society. For example, I exist at this moment because (among other factors) Hitler caused a World War, the aftermath involved my grandparent's country being unbearable to live in, causing them to move here, to Australia. Now I'm not saying I agree with Hitler, but I wouldn't be alive and humanity wouldn't have learnt anything if it weren't for him.
Do if your outcome were true, what if instead of taking people out of their time we replace them. Because if a black baby were in washingtons shoes with the same opportunities as him we would have a much greater respect and sense of equality for African Americans? Or we could replace hitler with an albino who has polio
An alternate history withour George Washington? If they made a movie about that, it's be like The Butterfly Effect, only better.
DUDE! What if we went back in time and tinkered it so that The Butterfly Effect or some similarly themed movie became a hugely successful Oscar-winning classic? What would be the butterfly effect of that movie on history? SUPER CONUNDRUM FTW!
but wouldnt going back in time take you in to another dimension where the time you want is the present time so in that other dimension so taking that evil person out of that dimension where they could have not grown up to be evil and thus maybe removing the person who dose something good instead
now hittler was a bad dude but he did break a horrible treaty (the treaty of Versailles ) because it reduced germany to nothing so with out that treaty there would have been no WWII PS ALL SPECULATION
I know this is kind of off-key in comparison most of the comments here, but I thought the graffiti on the wall at around 1:57 said DFTBA. I'm seeing it everywhere.
I love the idea of the EBO but as the Doctor said "You can't change a fixed point in time and space. If you could go back and kill baby Hitler, it wouldnt matter, because it would just be someone else but with the same intentions, and do the same thing."
@vlogbrothers Really isn't the point of the Evil Baby Orphanage to be a sort of 'What if' machine? Isn't it supposed to be there to see what would or could happen if a certain person was 'rehabilitated'. For example; if George Washington was took there then history COULD have taken the path you are suggesting John but it also COULD have taken a much darker path, right?
Tofurther support John's theory, I believe sending Hitler to the evil baby orphanage would not actually cause anymore people to be alive today. Assuming that Jewish populations were not disrupted by any other event, we would have a millions more Jewish people in Israel today. The Palestinians would have easily lost the first war, resulting in a more powerful Israel that is would cause Arab-Israeli war on a much greater scale, resulting in thousands more Jews and Arabs dead and world's oil supply
I'm sorry, what did you say? I was to busy watching the background of Venice and remembering killing thousands of guards all over that place in Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood.
so obviously Hitler would be a great candidate for the evil baby orphanage but if you took him out of the equation and then perhaps ww2 didn’t occur with its central issue being anti-Semitism then yes lots more people would be alive today and a lot more of them would be Jewish but ww2 and Hitler are always used as the prime examples of why discrimination is wrongand why nothing like that should ever happen aging on any scale so if neither of those things(Hitler and ww2)...(see next comment)
Why is a lot of people dying such a bad thing? Death is a crucial part of life, in the sense that new life cannot emerge if old life doesn't die and be recycled back into the life cycle. As humans, we don't like death, but nature doesn't care. Also, you can argue that the Black Plague prompted innovation in Europe - since so many people died, there was more pressure to create means of mass production. Everything is both good and bad, and nothing is truly "evil", from nature's pov.
Without Hitler, the world might not have video games and more!
Night Of The Broken Glass sent Ralph Baer and his Jewish family fleeing to New York; he studied tech like radiology 'n' stuff, decided there needed to be a way to interact with content of TV screens. Sum up: Brown Box 1st game console, later made Magnavox Odyssey; Pong, Atari steals it; lawsuit, much moneyz FTW; invents other electronic toys 'n' games, Simon; awards, etc.
I really wish you two had your own tv show. You could invite awesome people and sit on leather couches and discuss everything awesome. And maybe get more people on board with the puppy-size elephant project, which I think we can all agree would greatly improve the world.
It's all just a big "what-if"... I suppose if we wanted to, we could come up with a million and one outcomes and scenarios of history, had we changed some of history's 'evil babies' hah. But doing that personally drives me crazy! I always let my mind wander like that, and I always end up getting frustrated. I like that it could be just one big open-ended question, but at the same time it's frustrating because we will never know what would have really happened...
I like that I kinda knew where you were and recognized streets and things as you did this video. Makes me feel like a real world traveler. :) And you are just so intelligent and I wish I could hold 'what-if' conversations with you in person.
It seems like if you actually threw all the obvious candidates for the evil baby orphanage into the orphanage, someone else might think of doing the things those people did, and then do them anyway because they don't know what would happen.
Just has an epiphany. If we killed George Washington then we would have not only avoided the revolutionary war, the civil war, ended slavery sooner, and not have caused France to go into debt, avoiding the reign of terror and their revolutionary war, but we would also stop Napoleon from coming to power, thus stopping the unification of the areas that would become the second rich, THUS stopping WWI and WWII from happening!!!!
@bbg5000 I was trying to use a historical event as a thought exercise by proposing a "what if" type scenario. I just sort of plucked an event out of the air. But, while we are on the subject of the War of 1812, at what point does a war get "exciting?" Only about 2,000 U.S. soldiers died in the war of 1812. Would 3,000 deaths make it more of a war? Also, if the war of 1812 is not a war, should we call it the "Not Much of a War of 1812," or the "Military Conflict of 1812?"
@meade1111 I said it was more of a dispute, posturing. 2,000 soldiers in those days was small. The US lost that war, there was nothing gained from it by either side, and both sides got tired of it soon afterwards. It was probably the crappiest war the US has ever fought.
I think if you are at least aware of things you are doing wrong and try to do good things to compensate, you are not a candidate. Wasn't the idea dreamed up for such people as Hitler? Maybe it is for people who have caused nothing but misery and suffering? I find it hard to imagine someone arguing for a positive impact Hitler may have had on history...
Although as you say, the truth resists simplicity and most people are a mix of bad as well as good...
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how do we know that nerdfighters from the future haven't already created an evil baby orphanage and this is the best possible history they could come up with?
@DareYou2Smile yeah a big part of me imagines Butterfly Effect movie type stuff when thinking about changing history - like what if trying to stop the holocaust made something even more horrific happen? Or like you say what if this was the best path they could come up with. Time and causality are interesting...
@DareYou2Smile Um, then why was HITLER not taken! I get some people, like George Washington, need some thought, but Hitler needs absolutley none. He killed millions of people. If this was the best possible history that future nerdfighters could come up with, then awesome changed its definition in the future.
@toastvp2010 I believe Dare meant that the nerdfighters in the future did the best they could do without completely destroying the timeline. Perhaps they did kidnap Hitler and in turn it caused something drastic (and/or negative) to the timeline, but it's also possible that these time-traveling nerdfighters were able to take people who were just as bad or even maybe *worse* then him. Thus creating the world we live in now.
Without the horrific number of deaths of the Civil War, though, we wouldn't have had the advances in medicine that were necessary during the time of bloodshed: the beginning of "nurses" as a real and helpful profession, triage, and limiting the number of deaths from amputation surgery. WWI would have been much different without the American Civil War preceding it. It's that way with EVERY war, though.
Well, of course, the case workers at the EBO have "Infant Malevolence Detectors." Which come into existence around the same time as Time Travel. Then the babies are rated on an evil scale from 1 (Kathy Lee Gifford) to 7 (Osama Bin Laden).
There's no point in trying to make things better by tweaking key points in the history of humanity, which is filled with mistakes and imperfections far to numerous to count. There's no way we could accurately predict the outcome of such changes. Let the past be what it's been. Live in the now, and work for the future.
the Evil Baby Orphanage is a futile attempt at a utopian society, which couldn't possibly exist in this world.
@TheNo1pencil that's a little vague. if we stay with john's argument of george washington=civil war, is that war a conrtibution to history or a distruction of a possible history? same thing with hitler, would the jews have gotten their own country if it weren't for the holocaust? (side note, I live in israel.) who knows. there's no such thing as destroying history, unless you have a really big bomb. every action, even a really bad one, contributes to history in one way or another.
If you've ever read or seen a book, movie, or TV show about time travel, you know you can't just mess with things like that. Though it's not the most original concept, it is true. No meddling lest it be with a point in history that is not affixed. Time is a great big ball of wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey stuff. Although if you went back in time and had a lovely day strolling in the park you might not experience any difference, removing a great leader of history will, and wouldn't be for the better.
Really like the "Thoughts from Places"-style wandering combined with just generic John Green rambling. Surprised I didn't see more really strange looks in the background.
I guess to determine who goes to the "evil baby orphanage" would require us to figure out what what is "evil" and what is "good" respectively, which is a whole other can of worms. I guess we could just measure evil by the count of deaths that an individual life is responsible for. Then again, there are those responsible for many deaths, like Nebuchadnezzar, who changed the course of history in a way that improved the quality of life for the future.
I don't think we should go back in time and change anything, because everything that's happened teaches us not to do the same kinds of things, make those mistakes. If the holocaust hadn't taken place, something just like it would have happened some time later. There's no way to prevent anything from happening.
I'll use Xena as my example mainly because I've been rewatching the series. Undeniably she was a hero, helped many people and nations in her later life but she was an undeniably evil warlord earlier in her life. If she had been taken to an evil baby orphanage yes she probably would have never murdered but she would have never became the hero. Theres plenty of times in history where evil rulers have had a change of heart. I guess my question is how does EBO ensure they still end up in power.
Is it really our right to remove someone like George Washington though? Arguably he did unknowingly contribute and shape these events, the Civil War, the French Revolution, but he did so so unknowingly, can we really call him evil? Is it really fair to blame one baby for all that, especially when he did it so circumstantially? This, of course, is setting aside the issue of having no way of knowing what we would accidentally cause by removing baby George Washington.
This questions are too hard for me since I just woke up, but I'll try...
Candidates for the evil baby orphanage are usually explicitly evil, there is no doubt that they suck... but for everyone else who are parts "good"and parts "evil" it comes down to all of us, and that become more nuanced and hard to define who gets kidnapped and who doesn't.... So, it should be The Evil Baby Orphanage for Explicitly Evil Babies. Or else we face overcrowding.... think of the budget for this Orphanage!
An interesting thought is that while clearly Hitler is everyone's favorite candidate, the extreme he represented in terms of racism actually scared a lot of other countries into shaping up, and another genocide might spring up to take its place if this hadn't happened. However, it's not as though the world has learned the lesson on genocide.
problem is that the evil baby orphanage would be so full that rehabilitate them will look a lot like the indoctrination in brave new world. and i believe that would probably be even worse on a moral level than killing the evil babies.
No need to answer the non-rhetorical QOD; if we have a time machine we can always remove or insert the evil babies at will. Therefore, if we screw up and put a good-dooer in our own captivity when they were never meant to be there in the first place, we could always remove them again with the push of a button.
Given that we have a time machine, let's choose who is in the orphanage by abducting likely babies then seeing if the future that we return to is better. We can use standards like the UN World Development Index to determine if we have improved the world, and if we have not we simply go back and undo the abduction. Of course, simply by suggesting we experiment with all of humanity in this manner I probably am doing something quite EBO worthy...
I think that whether or not someone is a good candidate for the Evil Baby Orphanage all depends on whether the way they were raised led to their general destructive behaviors. For example, if you've ever done research on Hitler you will find that his stepfather treated him horribly which led to the anger and need for power later in life.
If you are born and then somehow invent time travel and you are randomly selected as an evil baby then you would be taken to the Evil Baby Orphanage where providing that the rehabilitation is successful, later on in your life you never invent the time traveling machine.
This leads me to my ultimate question. If everything said above becomes true, then will you live a life without your time traveling machine? Or will the cycle of inventing and Evil Baby Orphanage continue?
I like the places you take my thoughts in this video and I'd like more videos to be like this one. Maybe something we can see on Crash Course? An extra credit assignment. ;)
xKatrinex 13 hours ago
:D I was in Venice a few days after he was :D
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Nikki1862 6 days ago
It's so weird seeing him going over the same bridges and through the same alleys as I did when I was in Venice.
svennue55 1 week ago
English evil baby orphanage candidate - Oliver Cromwell. If you don't know who he is, search his name into Google.
Scottish evil baby orphanage candidate - whoever thought it was EVER a good idea to marry Mary Queen of Scots off so many times, instead of forming a coalition kingdom with England by marrying the King's son.
itsawayoflife142 1 week ago
@itsawayoflife142 Yes. Oliver Cromwell needs to go to the evil baby orphanage.
And ditto to the second part too. The first marriage wasn't quite as bad, but the last two were just disaster.
WinterLake25 3 days ago
how..... interesting
MrHistorybuff92 1 week ago
YOU SAY HERE THAT GEORGE WASHINGTON HAD WOODEN TEETH! hahaha Oh, John... You were part of the reason that was a misconception! I caught you!
housgirl135 2 weeks ago 9
I was in Venice two months later...urgh if only I Hadnt had my operation in June and i could have gone at the same time and bumped into you and been all HAPPY. Venice is pretty awesome in itself though :)
LilMissMadHatterBell 2 weeks ago
you should just watch the people behind john. it's kinda cool!
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@Asen4835 Canada apoligizes. we dont want him either. trust me.
plushalligator 2 weeks ago
@plushalligator Don't reject him becuase he's not that good a singer, neither is John! (Although,to be fair, John doesn't sing fora living.)
GONEmypurpleflapjack 2 weeks ago
Hindsight is 20/20. I guess that's the only answer to how we know.
bry0000000 3 weeks ago
John. How can you be IN VENICE and not want to TALK ABOUT VENICE?
chexmixultimate 3 weeks ago
I nominate Patient Zero, Gaëtan Dugas, for the Evil Baby Orphanage.
Richardgwm 3 weeks ago
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AudioRecovered 3 weeks ago
i re-watched it and noticed he does change his eye brows a lot!
happyspacemonkey 3 weeks ago
I know Im alittle behind in this discussion. Regardless, I wanted to add that the irish playwright Martin McDonagh (who also wrote the movie "In Bruges") wrote a play called "The Pillowman" which sorta touches on this idea of time-travel to prevent horrible lives from ever happening. Its extraordinarily sad and rather creepy, but thought-provoking nonetheless. You should definitely check it out if you want some more to ponder in this same vein.
scicodude 1 month ago
LOL..I didn't hear the bit about him being in Venice, and was very focused on the background. I was all "Ezio could so climb this place!" It was oddly familiar. Then I looked at the description...
wolflover255 1 month ago
You change the position of your eyebrows a lot.
Danteus25 1 month ago
1:57 wow... crazy eyebrowwws
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does killing a bad man make you good? if yes, then then is Hitler awesome because he killed Hitler?
theoffkeydiva 1 month ago
@theoffkeydiva your comment reminds me of philosoraptor so much...
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If you have a time machine, then you could hypothetically just go back in time over and over until you get it right. As far as we know, someone is doing that right now. Think about it, if time changes, then to us it always has happened as it happened, so we would not notice a change in history. We would think it had always been that way.
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please tell me you have seen the professor brothers video for george washington. it's an odd mixture between hilarious, disturbing, and creepy.
feigesi 3 months ago
1:18 Is it just me or that a Guy Fawkes mask in the shop in the background? Things I notice upon rewatching Vlogbrothers videos.
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@naturallygraceless I saw the mask too! Put a smile on my face :)
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Gods I miss yourpants being up.
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I have now officially cycled back to the videos in which I started religiously watching Vlogbrothers. And I've been following the Swoodilypoopers. So now I don't know what to do. Except wait for Monday.
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you realise, John that if you you remove baby Adolph Hitler you would indirectly cause the creation of the 51st state... This state would be called Jefferson and would take up parts of northern California and southern Oregon. The fact is that the day that Jefferson had declared itself a state was the same day that Pearl Harbor was bombed... Everyone was so distracted with Hawaii that no one ran a story about Jefferson becoming a state. Thusly Jefferson remains a state of mind and never real.
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@PolandMoonRise We're still not sure if it's legal for states to be declared in areas that are already known states.
EvilKarmaAngel 2 weeks ago
There is no need for exiling bad people from the world but rather exiling the situations and actions that cause these people to be bad. When one is a child they all have the opportunity to be good people. It is simply the experiences that they encounter along the way that cause them to make bad decisions. For example, rejection has caused people to be ashamed and then get revenge some way or another (look at osama bin laden and hitler).
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the EBO is for hitlers pepole who cause (yes i know he was not alone) large amounts of deaths(millions), and we should have extra great pepole be incharge of raseing them (mother teresa). that is my awsome idea for the EBO!!!
TheBecuzz 4 months ago
New thought (at least to me) on the EBO- WHAT IF, by placing all of these evil babies into the EBO they then get all depressed and what-not about being "unwanted" by parents and then go on to you know... be evil. OR- what do we do about sociopath/psychotic babies? Seeing as they can either go good or bad depending on their upbringing- placing them in the EBO could have the same "unwanted" effect... Just a thought....
kcooksey11 4 months ago
36 people were sent to the Evil Baby Orphanage.
Although I think that interfering in established and possibly fixed points in time would be quite evil, hoisting us on our own pitard.
Gallifrey103 5 months ago
Dear John and Hank, i was just wondering if having a baby evil Orphanage is good. What I mean to say is that we are human beings that learn by errors. So if we follow this idea having someone like let say Hitler, Beverly Allit or Vlad the Impaler is technically a sort of good thing. Now i'm not saying what they did is a good thing put that they are nessesary for or growth as human beings. If the Holocaust had never happen I am sure we would have not grown in a way that we need to like compacion
pamecrazyful 5 months ago
Yes United States of America, follow the Canada model.
Follow us. Join us.
*Creepy smile*
ZenithAkeuki 5 months ago 99
@ZenithAkeuki every seems to be better in Canada, but it's cold.
FlyingPigscanfly711 5 months ago in playlist More videos from vlogbrothers
@FlyingPigscanfly711 But you have a fireplace now! (look up Johns Green's message to Canada)
GONEmypurpleflapjack 2 weeks ago
@ZenithAkeuki Is Canada turning in to Russia?
((HETALIA REFERENCE))
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@ZenithAkeuki I am sorry, but you gave us Justin Beiber. We can never join you now
Asen4835 3 weeks ago
inveat ed to destroy one to save all that great...we gonna teach you
bkksugarsyrup 5 months ago
Waait. Wait, wait. The US was the first representative democracy, like, in the world. If there was no representative democracy in the US, it's fairly likely that there wouldn't be one in Canada, either. Not to mention, had the US never detatched itself from Europe, there would be no Monroe Doctrine, and it's likely as not the whole continent would still be under European control.
ArentWeInAPickle 5 months ago
I noticed your use of "and/or", but if we did not fight the Revolutionary War AND lost it, we must have really sucked.
RickhatesScott 5 months ago
This is actually a really thought-provoking video!
BloodyClay 5 months ago
Have you noticed that you get sick, like, a lot?
Also, you're John Green- you could freaking time travel if you really wanted to.
Imabove181000 6 months ago
Is imagining a possible past a kind of nostalgia? XD But seriously, aren't all of the evil babies and non-evil babies and the we-aren't-exactly-sure babies really just part of the world's natural cultural evolution? Would removing one evil baby prevent another one from existing? And even if we grant that removing one person from an equation would do something like prevent a war - can we be in any way sure that this would be a positive overall change? See, this is why the Prime Directive exists.
EmmaOnATangent 6 months ago 2
There should be a separate orphanage, for people like George Washington, who didn't do anthing bad but the world would probably be better off without him. The Good Baby Orphanage?
Skorphie 6 months ago
@Skorphie well its not like the evil baby orphanage would treat them poorly...
Madpolis7 6 months ago
This is why there are so many books and movies exploring the idea of changing history! Because you never know exactly what the results of your actions will be, so something you perceive as "good" may have worse repercussions in the long run than a different path you could have taken. I don't argue that Hitler and others weren't terrible people, but some good will almost always come out of an event that was bad, even if it isn't immediately obvious.
Thisismyusername1010 6 months ago
on the subject of perpetuating slavery- would poor Eli Whitney become a candidate? his intention was to bring about an end of slavery and ended up (in all likelihood) extending it by about, what? 80 years?
carbonatedcheese 6 months ago
Not sure if that was a good or bad comment about Canada, but i just wanted to say-- at what time in history would the orphanage take place? and I don't know how their parents would react seeing as most probably don't belong in an "orphan"age.
applespice01 6 months ago
@applespice01 i dont think the parents would react well under any circumstances, as the plan IS to kidnap thebabies. Alternatively, we could just break up the evil babies' parents before the evil babies are concieved.
izzybella2015 6 months ago
This video was made up my berfday! :D
Tahonamaya 6 months ago
thumbs up for "the Canada model" and its awesome beer!
blondeleo16 6 months ago
brilliant
eastsideboy10114 6 months ago
1) America still had some pretty good beer before prohabition. we won many awards. 2) George Washington, no genius but he was pretty good at fighting wars. As for who's a good canidate for the evil baby orphanage if Hitler and Nepolian(I think I spelled that right) are in there we might as well go by crazy people with one... y'know
SemisonicNerdfighter 6 months ago
@toastvp2010 hi I just want to interrupt your argument; yes Hitler was a terrible person and he killed thousands of people, but it was because of the war that womens rights exist. If you take away Hitler then you take away the war, therefore you take away the world we live in today where women in most societies have free will.
artyfarty1996 6 months ago
I think the man who takes the (evil) babies from their mothers should be sent and therefor unable to go back in time to get the evil babies which makes him not evil so he shouldn't be in the orphanage in the first place. AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH paradoxes
realesethesteam 6 months ago
@ILoveDrakeAndJosh Oh, I didn't catch that part! Thank you for clearing that up. It would have also drastically changed the way we think about politics (states' rights v. federal rights), race relations, and civil rights issues.
jasminisatreehugger 6 months ago
0:25 PASTA~!!
alannadc1 7 months ago 2
omigosh omigosh Omigosh OMIGOSH!!!!!! If you pause the video at 0:35 you will notice that it is the same spot where they filmed that one bit of Doctor who thats in the trailer for the vampires of venice. Just thought you should know. :D
princessyrandom1214 7 months ago
it's all about the butterfly effect
blueiis10 7 months ago
I think this is a really interesting topic to discuss. Although John is correct in saying that delaying the separation from Britain would greatly change the direction of US history, it doesn't necessarily mean that the transatlantic slave trade (which began with Europeans) would end nor does it mean that international slave labor (for imports/exports etc.) would end either. I think that was a bit of a jump. Or maybe I missed something.
jasminisatreehugger 7 months ago 2
@jasminisatreehugger yeah you did miss something XP he's saying slvery would've ended in america earlier because Britain was the nation that initially said "hey slavery sucks, don't do it anymore" and they basically went and stopped slavery everywhere. If america was their colony and people from Britain kept moving over there, the americans might've adopted this mind-set early on and easily went along with the no slave policy. And then the civil war would've never happened.
iluvdrakeandjosh 6 months ago
In regards to the question candidacy for the EBO, and the complexity of history, I cannot help but think of the (fictitious?) example of Gellert Grindelwald vs Albus Dumbledore. GG was evil, yes, but if he'd been in the EBO he wouldn't have met AD, and Ariana wouldn't have died, which means AD may not have reformed, which means that if GG had been in the EBO, AD might have become a Dark Lord, and thus we would have to go back again and put him in the EBO too and who knows where that'd leave us.
TempestinBlue 7 months ago
JOHN WANT TO MAKE US ALL BRITISH! NOO----- Wait, then I could watch Doctor Who, YESSSSS
Bosoxgalaxy 7 months ago 2
@DareYou2Smile
Or maybe nerdfighters from the future create an evil baby orphanage and the effects are so significant they cause a parallel universe to form? In that scenario, we are stuck in this universe and even if we create an evil baby orphanage, it won't effect us.
skydivinglibrarian 7 months ago
The idea of this orphanage is great, but there is no such thing as an evil baby. The entire concept of the evil baby orphanage is, in fact, based on the belief that there is no such thing as an evil baby, since presumably the goal is to raise the "evil" babies in such a way as to prevent them from becoming evil. I feel like it should be renamed. The obvious name is the potentially evil baby orphanage, but that's a mouthful, so if anyone else has ideas they would be welcome.
skydivinglibrarian 7 months ago
If George Washington was, in fact, prehabilitated at the Evil Baby Orphanage, what's to stop another George-Washitarian figure to emerge? The Revolutionary War was nbound to happen sooner or later, and George Washington was just there, in a position of power. If not him, it would have been someone else.
Scaarta 7 months ago 2
The answer to your final questions is: Intent.
More or less.
katiekawaii 7 months ago
Evil Baby Orphanage: "Why rehabilitate when you can PREhabilitate!"
katiekawaii 7 months ago
If it was somehow revealed that John and Hank were good candidates for the evil baby orphanage and were brought there, would that destroy time, as it would have destroyed the evil baby orphanage they were brought to?
hombre300 7 months ago
george washington was 6 ft 1 1/2 in. sorry john :(
kevinboucher1 7 months ago
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am I the only one who notices the billboard in the background at 0:24 that says "PASTA!"? someone in Venice is a Hetalia fan! ... I just translated it. it says Pasta is what you're made of...
thepiemakerinlove 7 months ago
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thepiemakerinlove 7 months ago
ghandi he is your canadit
spider19990506 7 months ago
To be honest, In my opinion, the people who are being taken to the ebo should themselves be taken to ebo for kidnapping hundreds of babies
adamwisdish95 7 months ago
@adamwisdish95 But does the crimes of the evil babies outweigh the crime of kidnapping?
GONEmypurpleflapjack 7 months ago 2
if the result of your actions is bad/evil..................doesn't mean that you are bad/evil.
good people often try to do the right thing........but it gets messed up along the way and it screws over the world....the goal might be a good one..........but after many years if you come to think about it, it wasn't worth it...................like every war or revolution in the history....nobody won, everyone lost, resources and lives
dorianjazz2 7 months ago
I thing the civil war would actually still happen. Because even though slavery was a big part of the war, it was also a sectionalism battle. The south not only wanted slavery but they wanted more representation. The east coast states (mostly South Carolina) wanted tarrifs to be less and yet they kept rising. At the same time the west wanted more help with their crops and they wanted more roads to sell crops in the west but they weren't getting enough money to do so. It just wouldn't be as bad.
AnnaPwnsLIfe 7 months ago
I don't agree with the evil baby orphanage in the first place. The more and more we try to pre-empt events or outcomes, the more paranoid we get as a society. For example, I exist at this moment because (among other factors) Hitler caused a World War, the aftermath involved my grandparent's country being unbearable to live in, causing them to move here, to Australia. Now I'm not saying I agree with Hitler, but I wouldn't be alive and humanity wouldn't have learnt anything if it weren't for him.
Sabstheking 7 months ago
Do if your outcome were true, what if instead of taking people out of their time we replace them. Because if a black baby were in washingtons shoes with the same opportunities as him we would have a much greater respect and sense of equality for African Americans? Or we could replace hitler with an albino who has polio
Mcfleury1000 7 months ago
1:56 what the heck is going on w/ your eyebrows?
puppyluveromg 8 months ago
An alternate history withour George Washington? If they made a movie about that, it's be like The Butterfly Effect, only better.
DUDE! What if we went back in time and tinkered it so that The Butterfly Effect or some similarly themed movie became a hugely successful Oscar-winning classic? What would be the butterfly effect of that movie on history? SUPER CONUNDRUM FTW!
cinndave 8 months ago
but wouldnt going back in time take you in to another dimension where the time you want is the present time so in that other dimension so taking that evil person out of that dimension where they could have not grown up to be evil and thus maybe removing the person who dose something good instead
now hittler was a bad dude but he did break a horrible treaty (the treaty of Versailles ) because it reduced germany to nothing so with out that treaty there would have been no WWII PS ALL SPECULATION
algnome 8 months ago
I know this is kind of off-key in comparison most of the comments here, but I thought the graffiti on the wall at around 1:57 said DFTBA. I'm seeing it everywhere.
xKiyuri 8 months ago
Damn it John. Now my mind is racing. I will be thinking about this and other hypothetical situations/histories for a long while now.
darknight10000 8 months ago
I love the idea of the EBO but as the Doctor said "You can't change a fixed point in time and space. If you could go back and kill baby Hitler, it wouldnt matter, because it would just be someone else but with the same intentions, and do the same thing."
Yes i know, I am a nerd. =]
myownkindofperson 8 months ago
..... washington, washington. 6'8" weighed a fucking ton.
ohohohohohohohohohohoohoh. i like that video.
yayofdino 8 months ago
Do you get funny looks when you speak to a camera in public?
AwaitingRose 8 months ago
@vlogbrothers Really isn't the point of the Evil Baby Orphanage to be a sort of 'What if' machine? Isn't it supposed to be there to see what would or could happen if a certain person was 'rehabilitated'. For example; if George Washington was took there then history COULD have taken the path you are suggesting John but it also COULD have taken a much darker path, right?
woodsy542 8 months ago
I love fascinating hypotheticals! This should be a Doctor Who episode.
ThePoolIsAbstract 8 months ago
Ask the Doctor. He sees which points in history are fixed and which need to be changed. :D THE EBO NEEDS THE TARDIS.
LlamaSunshineProject 8 months ago 78
Tofurther support John's theory, I believe sending Hitler to the evil baby orphanage would not actually cause anymore people to be alive today. Assuming that Jewish populations were not disrupted by any other event, we would have a millions more Jewish people in Israel today. The Palestinians would have easily lost the first war, resulting in a more powerful Israel that is would cause Arab-Israeli war on a much greater scale, resulting in thousands more Jews and Arabs dead and world's oil supply
PoisonedPanda 8 months ago
I'm sorry, what did you say? I was to busy watching the background of Venice and remembering killing thousands of guards all over that place in Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood.
pizzaman6654 8 months ago
1:57 - 2:03 So many eyebrow movements!
Norweiganish 8 months ago
existed could it be argued that any kind of discrimination would be more acceptable today? (sorry ran out of room)
j00e00m00 8 months ago
so obviously Hitler would be a great candidate for the evil baby orphanage but if you took him out of the equation and then perhaps ww2 didn’t occur with its central issue being anti-Semitism then yes lots more people would be alive today and a lot more of them would be Jewish but ww2 and Hitler are always used as the prime examples of why discrimination is wrongand why nothing like that should ever happen aging on any scale so if neither of those things(Hitler and ww2)...(see next comment)
j00e00m00 8 months ago
I'm sure this has already been said but:
what you forget is that time isnt linear but fits together like a jiugsaw puzzle. so civil war would have still occured etc etc etc
hitchhikers references ftw :)
Rarefied100 8 months ago
Why is a lot of people dying such a bad thing? Death is a crucial part of life, in the sense that new life cannot emerge if old life doesn't die and be recycled back into the life cycle. As humans, we don't like death, but nature doesn't care. Also, you can argue that the Black Plague prompted innovation in Europe - since so many people died, there was more pressure to create means of mass production. Everything is both good and bad, and nothing is truly "evil", from nature's pov.
Acerola211 8 months ago
lets kill hitler!
princessyrandom1214 8 months ago
Without Hitler, the world might not have video games and more!
Night Of The Broken Glass sent Ralph Baer and his Jewish family fleeing to New York; he studied tech like radiology 'n' stuff, decided there needed to be a way to interact with content of TV screens. Sum up: Brown Box 1st game console, later made Magnavox Odyssey; Pong, Atari steals it; lawsuit, much moneyz FTW; invents other electronic toys 'n' games, Simon; awards, etc.
So ask yourself: are videogames worth it?
DFTBA!
nintendude794 8 months ago
HEY IVE BEEN THEREEE!! six times actually *wink wink* . Man good times good times
DaSassyDanca 8 months ago
I really wish you two had your own tv show. You could invite awesome people and sit on leather couches and discuss everything awesome. And maybe get more people on board with the puppy-size elephant project, which I think we can all agree would greatly improve the world.
BlackandWhiteScarf 8 months ago
I'VE BEEN THERE!
MusicaliPad 8 months ago
Go get wheezy waiter he has a time machine.
deathknightmaster424 8 months ago
It's all just a big "what-if"... I suppose if we wanted to, we could come up with a million and one outcomes and scenarios of history, had we changed some of history's 'evil babies' hah. But doing that personally drives me crazy! I always let my mind wander like that, and I always end up getting frustrated. I like that it could be just one big open-ended question, but at the same time it's frustrating because we will never know what would have really happened...
00Cinderella00 8 months ago
I like that I kinda knew where you were and recognized streets and things as you did this video. Makes me feel like a real world traveler. :) And you are just so intelligent and I wish I could hold 'what-if' conversations with you in person.
MsWhiteLilac 8 months ago
I live near venice... and i was there about a week ago :P
JoeWazzington 8 months ago
It seems like if you actually threw all the obvious candidates for the evil baby orphanage into the orphanage, someone else might think of doing the things those people did, and then do them anyway because they don't know what would happen.
omgpickles 8 months ago
Just has an epiphany. If we killed George Washington then we would have not only avoided the revolutionary war, the civil war, ended slavery sooner, and not have caused France to go into debt, avoiding the reign of terror and their revolutionary war, but we would also stop Napoleon from coming to power, thus stopping the unification of the areas that would become the second rich, THUS stopping WWI and WWII from happening!!!!
deathnotex100 8 months ago
@bbg5000 I was trying to use a historical event as a thought exercise by proposing a "what if" type scenario. I just sort of plucked an event out of the air. But, while we are on the subject of the War of 1812, at what point does a war get "exciting?" Only about 2,000 U.S. soldiers died in the war of 1812. Would 3,000 deaths make it more of a war? Also, if the war of 1812 is not a war, should we call it the "Not Much of a War of 1812," or the "Military Conflict of 1812?"
meade1111 8 months ago
@meade1111 I said it was more of a dispute, posturing. 2,000 soldiers in those days was small. The US lost that war, there was nothing gained from it by either side, and both sides got tired of it soon afterwards. It was probably the crappiest war the US has ever fought.
bbg5000 8 months ago
@bbg5000 What is your criteria for a "crappy" war vs. a "non-crappy" war?
meade1111 8 months ago
I think if you are at least aware of things you are doing wrong and try to do good things to compensate, you are not a candidate. Wasn't the idea dreamed up for such people as Hitler? Maybe it is for people who have caused nothing but misery and suffering? I find it hard to imagine someone arguing for a positive impact Hitler may have had on history...
Although as you say, the truth resists simplicity and most people are a mix of bad as well as good...
saikogrrl 8 months ago
John,
Hey I'm a huge fan of your videos and a member of nerdfighters. And i was considering something... What if every month nerdfigters partnered with one charity (one that does not receive as much publicity) and when were partnered, maybe each nerdfighter is requested to donate $5, becasue that really adds up... Within the whole year u would've of only paid $60 this could really make a difference and could be good for the charity and nerdfighteria as wel
Plz consider
-Parker Hume(curejm)
riptide312 8 months ago
@riptide312 what's the charity??? I'm rather interested. What do you do?
skigirl108 8 months ago
i would love to hear more about the ebo (evil baby orphanage) especially in Florida...its nice and warm here
DancesWithNikes 8 months ago
how do we know that nerdfighters from the future haven't already created an evil baby orphanage and this is the best possible history they could come up with?
DareYou2Smile 8 months ago 179
@DareYou2Smile yeah a big part of me imagines Butterfly Effect movie type stuff when thinking about changing history - like what if trying to stop the holocaust made something even more horrific happen? Or like you say what if this was the best path they could come up with. Time and causality are interesting...
saikogrrl 8 months ago
@DareYou2Smile i imagine they would keep perfecting it
makeoohsothoughtful 8 months ago
@DareYou2Smile STOP BLOWING MY MIND
EzloMinish 7 months ago
@DareYou2Smile Um, then why was HITLER not taken! I get some people, like George Washington, need some thought, but Hitler needs absolutley none. He killed millions of people. If this was the best possible history that future nerdfighters could come up with, then awesome changed its definition in the future.
toastvp2010 6 months ago
@toastvp2010 I believe Dare meant that the nerdfighters in the future did the best they could do without completely destroying the timeline. Perhaps they did kidnap Hitler and in turn it caused something drastic (and/or negative) to the timeline, but it's also possible that these time-traveling nerdfighters were able to take people who were just as bad or even maybe *worse* then him. Thus creating the world we live in now.
See what I mean?
KadenKryptonite 6 months ago in playlist Vlogbrothers Playlist Part 4
@DareYou2Smile Well, that would kind of suck.
Thisismyusername1010 6 months ago
I like your ideas regarding complexity. Nothing is ever as simple as it seems.
TheFunnyQQ 8 months ago
I know someone who should go to the evil baby orphanage... tom riddle Jr! LOL, na, send Stallin and Hitler there!
Chloeissocoollad 8 months ago
Without the horrific number of deaths of the Civil War, though, we wouldn't have had the advances in medicine that were necessary during the time of bloodshed: the beginning of "nurses" as a real and helpful profession, triage, and limiting the number of deaths from amputation surgery. WWI would have been much different without the American Civil War preceding it. It's that way with EVERY war, though.
ashliebelle 8 months ago
yes "Canadian model" and "best beer"
ThePianoLover12 8 months ago
Well, of course, the case workers at the EBO have "Infant Malevolence Detectors." Which come into existence around the same time as Time Travel. Then the babies are rated on an evil scale from 1 (Kathy Lee Gifford) to 7 (Osama Bin Laden).
Easy. :-))
~Trav
sivartis 8 months ago
'Kay, this video cemented it. I have a serious crush on John. My husband prefers Hank, though.
skrodevoli1984 8 months ago
The lady at 1:14 is like "What da hell...?"
CraselinPlusPlus 8 months ago
There's no point in trying to make things better by tweaking key points in the history of humanity, which is filled with mistakes and imperfections far to numerous to count. There's no way we could accurately predict the outcome of such changes. Let the past be what it's been. Live in the now, and work for the future.
the Evil Baby Orphanage is a futile attempt at a utopian society, which couldn't possibly exist in this world.
sk8rdman 8 months ago
How do we know that we haven't ALREADY created the EBO?? How do we know if this is as good as it gets and our other selves' reality was so much worse?
Will it be a continuous cycle of EBO creation until there's no one left??? Is it possible to have a world full a good people?
hollylmac 8 months ago
@hollylmac Not in this world.
sk8rdman 8 months ago
contributing to history is not the same as destroying it.
TheNo1pencil 8 months ago
@TheNo1pencil that's a little vague. if we stay with john's argument of george washington=civil war, is that war a conrtibution to history or a distruction of a possible history? same thing with hitler, would the jews have gotten their own country if it weren't for the holocaust? (side note, I live in israel.) who knows. there's no such thing as destroying history, unless you have a really big bomb. every action, even a really bad one, contributes to history in one way or another.
kitchenfloorblog 8 months ago
@kitchenfloorblog
(woot fer israel) everything we do is a contributer to history. we destroy it by wanting to change it to the point of not seeing any outcome.
TheNo1pencil 8 months ago
My favorite part of your videos are hearing you speak :]
MrJaVeH 8 months ago 2
If you've ever read or seen a book, movie, or TV show about time travel, you know you can't just mess with things like that. Though it's not the most original concept, it is true. No meddling lest it be with a point in history that is not affixed. Time is a great big ball of wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey stuff. Although if you went back in time and had a lovely day strolling in the park you might not experience any difference, removing a great leader of history will, and wouldn't be for the better.
AccioAli 8 months ago
cool.
syberblade50 8 months ago
light it up and no one has to do anything. what the fuck did i just say?
LHskater3 8 months ago
Really like the "Thoughts from Places"-style wandering combined with just generic John Green rambling. Surprised I didn't see more really strange looks in the background.
undeadgoat 8 months ago
Hitler was sent to the evil baby orphanage when he was born , but sadly he was adopted.
MegaOLIVIA1969 8 months ago
I guess to determine who goes to the "evil baby orphanage" would require us to figure out what what is "evil" and what is "good" respectively, which is a whole other can of worms. I guess we could just measure evil by the count of deaths that an individual life is responsible for. Then again, there are those responsible for many deaths, like Nebuchadnezzar, who changed the course of history in a way that improved the quality of life for the future.
saltyavocado 8 months ago
I don't think we should go back in time and change anything, because everything that's happened teaches us not to do the same kinds of things, make those mistakes. If the holocaust hadn't taken place, something just like it would have happened some time later. There's no way to prevent anything from happening.
jaspertopaz78 8 months ago
I'll use Xena as my example mainly because I've been rewatching the series. Undeniably she was a hero, helped many people and nations in her later life but she was an undeniably evil warlord earlier in her life. If she had been taken to an evil baby orphanage yes she probably would have never murdered but she would have never became the hero. Theres plenty of times in history where evil rulers have had a change of heart. I guess my question is how does EBO ensure they still end up in power.
TheRossPRN 8 months ago
lol.... thumbs down for being the most thumbed down guy on this video!! this is rage! :O
Jakzerstoren 8 months ago
Is it really our right to remove someone like George Washington though? Arguably he did unknowingly contribute and shape these events, the Civil War, the French Revolution, but he did so so unknowingly, can we really call him evil? Is it really fair to blame one baby for all that, especially when he did it so circumstantially? This, of course, is setting aside the issue of having no way of knowing what we would accidentally cause by removing baby George Washington.
MsVarlot 8 months ago
I've been to all the locations in this video =D
firewalker303 8 months ago
This questions are too hard for me since I just woke up, but I'll try...
Candidates for the evil baby orphanage are usually explicitly evil, there is no doubt that they suck... but for everyone else who are parts "good"and parts "evil" it comes down to all of us, and that become more nuanced and hard to define who gets kidnapped and who doesn't.... So, it should be The Evil Baby Orphanage for Explicitly Evil Babies. Or else we face overcrowding.... think of the budget for this Orphanage!
BookishBirdy 8 months ago
Canadian beer FTW!!!
55angietherockstar55 8 months ago
An interesting thought is that while clearly Hitler is everyone's favorite candidate, the extreme he represented in terms of racism actually scared a lot of other countries into shaping up, and another genocide might spring up to take its place if this hadn't happened. However, it's not as though the world has learned the lesson on genocide.
MercuryBoi 8 months ago
I love you brain. I want it!
ThatAJLaVa 8 months ago
problem is that the evil baby orphanage would be so full that rehabilitate them will look a lot like the indoctrination in brave new world. and i believe that would probably be even worse on a moral level than killing the evil babies.
kukelekuu 8 months ago
No need to answer the non-rhetorical QOD; if we have a time machine we can always remove or insert the evil babies at will. Therefore, if we screw up and put a good-dooer in our own captivity when they were never meant to be there in the first place, we could always remove them again with the push of a button.
avonne100 8 months ago
I've been to Venice !!!
TheJonsey93 8 months ago
I really might get "The truth resists simplicity" tattooed on me.
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makeoohsothoughtful 8 months ago
Given that we have a time machine, let's choose who is in the orphanage by abducting likely babies then seeing if the future that we return to is better. We can use standards like the UN World Development Index to determine if we have improved the world, and if we have not we simply go back and undo the abduction. Of course, simply by suggesting we experiment with all of humanity in this manner I probably am doing something quite EBO worthy...
TwoPiAround 8 months ago
I think that whether or not someone is a good candidate for the Evil Baby Orphanage all depends on whether the way they were raised led to their general destructive behaviors. For example, if you've ever done research on Hitler you will find that his stepfather treated him horribly which led to the anger and need for power later in life.
onthatthought 8 months ago
Paradox time:
If you are born and then somehow invent time travel and you are randomly selected as an evil baby then you would be taken to the Evil Baby Orphanage where providing that the rehabilitation is successful, later on in your life you never invent the time traveling machine.
This leads me to my ultimate question. If everything said above becomes true, then will you live a life without your time traveling machine? Or will the cycle of inventing and Evil Baby Orphanage continue?
Ddudex14 8 months ago
@almightyshortme and @smileyriley11....all i can say is i LOVE people who are fans of doctor who.
mskaylamarie1990 8 months ago