Flamenco guitar lesson - 4 finger tremolo Pmami

[biglonestar1]

これはフラメンコ奏法ではありません。

[metalhead654]

OK so just wondering...it seems like paco pena and de lucia do rest stoke with thier thumb when hiting the bass notes in tremolo. Does it just look like it or is that part of the technique too?

[IRowyI]

ah i see, well i have finger picks.

but yeah, i prefer nails aswell

[IRowyI]

instead of growing nails arent finger picks an alternative ?

[hersoveela]

@IRowyI Definitely not. I wouldn't dream of it in my worst nightmare. All I can say is try it for yourself. It may work for simple picado passages but that's about it. The problem is that finger picks will just get in the way big time and hook when you do other things like arpeggios or rasgueados. Why would you want to change a perfectly workable and proven traditional system that has been around for a very long time. If finger picks were a viable option, Paco de Lucia would be using them.

[Daltonator87]

@hersoveela dammit, i rock climb alot and can't have long nails!

[SeniorSmurf1]

@hersoveela partialy because long nails can look sick... but its worth it in my opinion

[PhilWithCoffee]

@IRowyI I thought about that myself (I got the idea from watching banjo players), but arrived to the same conclusion as hersoveela, Using your finger-tips is a very viable alternative, however you'd get a much different, softer sound. During the Renaissance period, traditional lutenists plucked using their fingertips and not their nails, so you'd be in good company. Because of my work ,I can't have long nails; it's just one of those things us lay musicians have to put-up with.

[gonnaeacha]

Say I have a Three note per string pattern, How could I do this the Quickest? Ive been going P-I-M, and/or I-M-A ascending, and the reverse Descending. Is this going to work? Or should I take one way and stick with it through out the scale?

[hersoveela]

Do whatever works best for you

[forgettingheath]

hey so any advise in the growing of your nails. Mine always seem to break off before they are long enough and its driving me crazy

[hersoveela]

Please read my article about nails at my website

Sal

[forgettingheath]

thank you so much

[flamencodiablo007]

nice volume and "snap" you're getting out of those notes, I've never seen this finger order before. usually piami...nice work

[finchisgod]

What if.... I don't feel like growing out my nails? is there another way to get this sound? I have tryed those banjo finger picks but I can't get used to them, shout I keep at that or are the metal ones going to break a string eventually

[hersoveela]

The only answer I can give is if you "don't feel like growing out my nails" then you won't get the desired result. Apart from false acrylic nails, which I don't recommend, I cant offer a useful alternative to actually growing your nails a bit. It doesn't have to be much.

[hawny101]

helps to have long nails, lol. :P

[srv779]

why dont you reccomand akrill nails? a lot of flamenco players use them.

[hersoveela]

Tremolo is all free stroke, meaning the finger and thumb plays the string and then follows through by clearing the string next to it. It doesn't resting on the next string as you would with picado. Lots of information about free stroke vs rest stroke. Do a google search. The same basic principles apply for classical and flamenco guitar.

Most scales and single melody notes are played rest stroke (picado). Free stroke is used just about everywhere else especially arpeggios and tremolo.

Sal

[jerseymover3]

Hey Sal..is this technique the same as your picado (i and m) lesson. Seems like here you are plucking the strings with your fingers and not muting them.. whereas the picado using i and m you are pushing down. How do you know when to use these techniques? If I had to guess, you would say use the picado fingerpicking when you play scales and use plucking when you use your thumb in addition to the rythym?

[reinaldocruzhuertas]

It is a not bad work but I think that in that order you will never get the speed of the traditional order (PIAMI).

[goorance]

thaks.. i wasnot sure for the picking

[derArier]

Nice...

I like learning new stuff, from different fields...

I never thought of playing like that.. thanks dude...

[chowyoungfat]

thanks heaps! this was really useful =D

[Ezequielfdu]

Thanks for the video! I tried playing the tremolo using P-I-A-M-I but your techniquesis much more efficient. thanks

[comosicusguitar]

i see other lesson without staccato..heare in this lesson i see staccato....wich is better? with staccato or without?....wich sound mor beautifull....or is the same thing?

[hersoveela]

I practice staccato to get accuracy. When playing at normal speed I want to make every stroke clear and distinct. But that's just my preference. Many classical players prefer the softer, or if you prefer, more "beautiful" sound produced by "waving" their fingers across the tremolo string. Whatever. There is no wrong or right here. Music is a personal thing, not something dictated by artificial rules that other musicians dream up. So I say...do whatever sounds and feels good to you.

[elsby]

Thankyou , I've been wanting to get into tremelo for a while now and your video was very instructive.

[Knucklesmd]

1 question. Is it neccessary to have your strumming hand positioned over top of the body when playing spanish guitar techniques?

[hersoveela]

Not necessary. It's just my habit to position it away from the sound hole towards the bridge. Ask different people and you get different answers. It's basically personal preference and/or habit.

[psychopathtoine]

wait a minute do you use your pinky?

[hersoveela]

No. Only Pmami

[naturanaturans]

Great. although u are amateur like me yet you way of studying not just following make me think about 15 years ago I was. Respecto. senior tremolo specialist guitarist

[naturanaturans]

spanish quantoplex is piami mostly but also teach other combination - paimi etc. so

it depends on player but need to little consider of muscle split difficulty in m a.

[naturanaturans]

Ur theory right thinking about m is longest.

so can sound more accurate than starting with i. little concern is speed i think

[nikimargi]

well in Spain they play it P-I-A-M-I for centuries. I bet they have found the efficient way...

[hersoveela]

That comment is far to broard to be useful to anybody. It is generally understood that tremolo was not even used in flamenco until the beginning of the 20th century. Theories and historical musings don't help me to play the guitar. But what I can tell you is that P-M-A-M-I is more efficient for ME. That's all that matters in the real world.

[man1116]

hi, i play spanish guitar.. i bought magazines from RDM editorial, it's called acordes de flamenco... they play tremolo (quintuplet) P-I-A-M-I..

i tried this way, but the other one is a bit better...

:)

[hersoveela]

I always encourage trying both to see which is better for the individual player. What is better for YOU may not be better for someone else. Better is a subjective term and only applies to the person who speaks it. The same goes for "good and bad" and "right and wrong". It's nice to see you have tried both before deciding. Thanks for your comment.

[AtterseeSommer]

nice planting

[josephcecil]

A+ thanks a whole lot.. very nice contributions and I'll probably go through all your lessons eventually.. after this first video, I started playing better than in the last ten years, because of your technique.. thanks.

[rajeshpuru]

Hi, I have an acoustic guitar. I want to learn finger picking on the acoustic. Can i learn the techniques you have shown here in acoustic as well? Will it help to learn finger picking?

[hersoveela]

Only you can answer these questions.

[memo0o]

alright thnx , i feel like u r going to kill me to get a teacher lol.

[memo0o]

just a simple question are u playing with your nails ? .. how long does they have to be ? .. becouse my nails always stuck and its hard to pull them up or down to make a sound =\

thnx in advance.

[hersoveela]

I am playing with nails. If you want to know the perfect nail length for your fingers, just experiment until you get the sound you want. Everybody's hands and nails are different so I cannot answer the question, "How long do they have to be." Ask your teacher for advice." No teacher?? Do yourself a favor and find one.

[vallejo41]

Holy crap. Took a few days to get used to his one. I messed around with flamenco music for a couple years when I was a music major in college. I can't believe no one ever showed me pmami, and I can't belive I never figured it out. I always did piami.

Thanks so much, so much faster and easier and just seems to feel more natural for my hand joints etc...

[mimisoftbear]

isn't it P.I.M.A ?

[hersoveela]

Never heard of that one. I suppose it could be useful if you want to accelerate early onset arthritis. Do you mean P-I-A-M-I? P-I-A-M-I is more common than P-M-A-M-I to be sure but (in my humble opnion) P-M-A-M-I is easier on the hands, easier to execute and sounds better.

[Asuturias]

thanks for teaching

[sabonzo]

The advice of playing it as P-M-A-M-I is actually the best. I never heared about this advice before since I read only about P-I-A-M-I.. Your technique is easier to learn and more comfortable for the right hand. Thanks

[tunefultim]

silly question but how do you get strong nails?

[airraider]

I suspect it's an E chord. But some of us learn by asking. We're not all gifted. Thanks for the lesson.

(both of them)

[hersoveela]

E minor actually. I chose this chord for the right hand technique demos because it is easier to write in tab. (No G# on the third string to bother with as in a full E major chord).

[airraider]

I like the lessons. What chord are yoy fretting?

[hersoveela]

For the sake of human evolution, it is my express wish that mankind strives to preserve the ability to determine sounds by listening to them. I regret that I won't be answering your question at this time. Hint. It's a real easy chord. Pick up your guitar and listen. You will be surprised how basic it is. Thanks for dropping by.

[jkidd999]

i totally agree, i hate it when people ask for tabs.. it gets so annoying