i am a pagan looking for a place to practice my religion, and express it without being judged by others. what can i expect from a Unitartian Universalist Church?
UU is a real religion, but unlike other religions, they do not have a creed. UU is focused on bringing 'heaven to the people' rather than bringing 'people to heaven'. UU brings together aspects from Paganism, Judiasm, Buddism, ect. Followers of UU may be athiest, polytheist, or have no label at all. Historically, UU does have roots in Christianity. UU does not bully you into following their views and they openly accept people of all lifestyles and sexual orientations.
@MCG55SS It can't be a real religion if people can't even tell you what it's about. Basically, it sounds like 'you choose whatever you want to believe in, as long as it's tolerant & isn't viewed as a one-way path'. It doesn't make any sense.
@ghostofxmaspast It's hard for some people to think of it as a "real" religion if it is not the same religions their parents raised them in and what they are accustomed to. Just because it is not what you grew up seeing throughout your community, or because they don't see God as a fairy tale figure in the sky and think of Jesus coming back and levitating them from the ground to go to a fantasy city in the sky doesn't mean it's not real.
I am a Biblical scholar and a Unitarian. This site demonstates why the history of religion and the history of war, murder, opression and misogyny are parallel. The fundamentalism shown by both the Christians and the Unitarians on this comment board is unnecessary. We need not think alike to love alike. Christians:let the Unitarians go to hell if that is our choice. Unitarians: let the Christians hold fast to the absolute truth if that is their choice. We need not believe alike to love alike.
Now called Unitarian Universalists, historically you're correct @phillip78. The Unitarians' beliefs centred around the unity instead of the trinity. Universalists believed in universal salvation, and in the trinity. As the beliefs of each group evolved over the years, they realized that they were closer together than farther apart & merged. Some churches still id themselves as Unitarian, some as Universalist and some as UU but all stand on the foundation of the Principles & Purposes of the UUA.
@nitroscity When did that take place? But a fyi, there are universalist who do not believe in all the doctrines of Unitarian. I believe in universal salvation, but not unitarian cause unitarians do not believe Jesus is the only way, and many other things like that.
@TycoonManTech The Bible does not teach eternal punishment. God's love and mercy endures forever. Does it really endure forever or only in this life? How can it be Good News if it doesn't translate to the afterlife?
1 Timothy 4:10- This is why we work hard and continue to struggle, for our hope is in the living God, who is the Savior of all people and particularly of all believers.
So, let me get this straight: You can claim X, and I can claim Y, and we can BOTH be right? Really? So like, you can say you care about "women's health" and are "pro-choice" and I can say that abortion kills little girls in the womb, and we can both be right?
I can say that the scriptures are clear, there is a "hell" and that Stalin is burning there (for killing 10s of millions of human beings), but you can say that I shouldn't be so judgmental and that communism isn't so bad. (?)
@ScottMacFie the problem is you are used to a western cartesian way of thinking in where there is duality and the belief of something right and something wrong but there are other modes of understanding things in which what is true for someone in a certain context isnt necessarily true for others in another context ,concepts in eastern religions like non-duality in hinduism and ying yang in taoism can help you understand this better
Jesus said You are either with me or against me. I am the way the truth and the life and noone can get to God but through me. Your either in or out. Your Gods creation. he loves you please come to him through Jesus Christ and come to his kingdom hes prepared for you. We sinned. God's perfect we couldnt be together but he loves us so he sent Jesus his son to take our punishment for us so that we may be with him in Heaven. not in hell. if you have any questions please reply. God bless.
@UndeadGinger96 Yes you have the right to reject Jesus Christ as your Savior. And when you die God will Honor Your Choice For Hell that you made while you were alive.
The Bible is the objective authoritative, inspired, inerrent, infallible Word of the Living God, and it speaks quite plainly of the wicked being "cast into the Lake of Fire", being "tormented day and night forever and ever" (REVELATION 20:10)
Its quite hilarious, Its a building full of people searching for Truth, but not one has found it so they keep searching and until then they have puppet shows and bake sales and cool stuff
@JesusNonEnviromental Yes, but this video is for a class of 4 year olds in an RE program that have no clue what they are doing in church. We give to the less fortunate because we have it better than them.
@itzjustsarah I would ask you to just preach the Gospel to them, but your church is so apostate that would be a big order. Your church should change its name to Bake Sale and leave the preaching to the true Chrisitians who serve one God and know who they serve May the Lord have Mercy
Unitarian Universalists are a planet destroying violent hate group that are nothing but mass murdering hypocrites. Unitarian Universalists are Nazi scum.
"Just because I may believe that chocolate ice cream is the best flavor, and you may believe that bubblegum is, doesn't mean we both can't be right."
Wait, what? Are you kidding me? Does anyone else see the blatant hole in that assumption? We aren't talking about PREFERENCES here, we are talking about TRUTH. If I say that the Civil War never occurred, and someone else says that it did, it doesn't matter how sincere I am, I would still be wrong. This has nothing to do with preferences.
yes but this is a R.E. (religious education) for children, somewhat a 'story time.' so its not like they can go into a deep discussion on the beliefs of everyone. but yes you make a good point.
i'm sorry but you know the people to whom who Jesus will say on judgement day "I never knew you"? i don't want to judge anyone's position with God, but i would hazard a guess that many of such people will belong to Churches that preach this sort of thing :(
Jesus is dead. He isn't going to be saying anything.
And there isn't going to be a judgment day - that is a Biblical fairytale. If there is a God, it isn't the God of Christianity or The Bible. Both have been proven as man made myths.
@Syrinx69 Actually every little prophecy Jesus fulfilled were written down a long time earlier. And it is proven hes fulfilled them. God loves you and so do i(not a creeper) but please. reply and i will share more with you. God bless.
A prime example of terrible puppetry in a church setting. Ladies and gentlemen, puppets are supposed to be in action, not to sit and spout dialogue. This would have been better as a radio show.
@Standonarock it varies, theres christain UU, agnostic UU, and atheist UU, this is christain UU who are christain but look for answers on the meaning of life and religion and the science behind them. the others are simple stories, agnostic, neither side but look for truth, and atheist dont believe in religion but look for thr truth as well.
@proverbs1722 ... yes and another preacher told me if i still believe in god ill still go to hell, and another said if you try to worship too hard ill go to hell, and another preacher told me god said killing is back yet he'll still forgive you even though its horrilbe acts in everyone's eyes and god said its unforgiviable and god killed out of fury in the bible and told us not to kill, thats what preachers tell me & brainwash me to think, mind fucking me, this is why ima UU, it makes more sense
2 Jesus answered, “Do you think that these Galileans were worse sinners than all the other Galileans because they suffered this way? 3 I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish.Luke 13:2-3
But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.”
@Standonarock UU is a combination of Unitarians and Universalists, both originally Christian groups. There are Christian UU's, Jewish UU's, Muslim UU's, Pagan UU's, etc..... Personally I just think of myself as a UU. I don't subscribe to any established religion, but I do believe in the basic tenants that most religions share: love, tolerance, acceptance...
@Standonarock That's true, and from many other faith traditions as well. The big difference is that we actually walk the walk. Unfortunately, most Christians are hypocrits, intolerant, hateful and arrogant. At their worst Christians advocate Dominionism and Reconstructionism - radical and incendiary beliefs abhorrent to the Unitarian Universalist. If you look UUism up, you will discover our "principles" rather than "beliefs." UUs are not dogmatic in their spiritual outlook.
@jereuter01 Is it "hateful" for one to say that he/she objects to gay marriage, and that he or she bases their belief/viewpoint based upon their religious beliefs?
Does your answer depend on whether or not the person positing such is Christian or Muslim?
Remember the great big FUSS, out in California with Prop 8, where all the liberal gay-rights groups were up in the faces of Muslims and protesting outside Mosques (which are openly anti-gay, and intolerant).
@ScottMacFie Your questions remind me of those put to Jesus by the Pharisees....LOL And, you are correct I don't remember liveral gay rights behaving in that fashion. I do however know that African Americans here in the deep south are also oopenly anti-LGBT and intolerant. Hate is not an Abrahamic trait alone, although these faiths would lead one to believe so.
@Standonarock Sounds like you have the Jeffersonian version of the Bible, not the King James. BTW, it's not necessary for me and many like me to lead an ethical law-abiding life without having to believe in superstitutions dogma. I definately don't want to be a part of the interminable internecine warfare between the Abrahamic faiths. To hell with them.
@Standonarock true one belief of unitarian universalists is that any member may draw beliefs or practices from any other religion but you dont have to be restricted to the totalitarian force if you dont want to
basically i can believe in respect honour love and other traits without being restricted to my belief in jesus or buddha or god
and share our joys and share our sorrows and together we create a community of friends, more than anything. So maybe we are a religion and maybe were not: you can believe one way or the other or you can do what I do and not get caught up in the minor details and instead be concerned with the major goal of being a good person.
@briNmayginmakeap0rn0 I grew up Catholic and became a UU about 20 years ago. Kids who grow up in UU churches are amazing. They're taught acceptance of themselves and others and to think for themselves. For example, next month our junior youth group will conduct the service (with help from their RE teacher), and each one will explain to the congregation their current thoughts on the purpose of life, what happens after death, and other big life questions. I couldn't have done that when I was 12!
@davlor86 Seriously, Unitarians believe that it is your buisness to believe whatever you want to believe, and we all share that belief. So we get together and believe what we want to believe in a group. Instead of having sermons about how everything we do is wrong in the eyes of the gracious Jesus, we talk about how we are good loving people who deserve to be happy. Instead of scaring our youngsters with the damnation of there atheist father, we teach them to love themselves and the world.
@briNmayginmakeap0rn0 Instead of asking our teenagers to accept Jesus as there lord and savoir, we ask them to accept themselves. We have Hanukkah parties and have services dedicated to the solstice and we talk about Jonah and the Whale and the Buddha and what makes us happy and what makes us sad and what we can do to make other people happy and decrease there pain. We accept one another for who they are and learn to appreciate them in that light. We sing songs...
They are confusing subjective truth claims like "I like choclate ice-cream," and "you like strawberry ice-cream" (different subjects means different truths) with objective truth claims. Subjective truth claims are neither right nor wrong, but objective truth claims are either right or wrong. Sydney is the captial of Australia is false. That statement is an objective truth claim. "Jesus physical body rose from the dead" is also an objective truth claim. It is either true or false.
@alfyakuza I know! We're just the most horrible thing on the planet! We love and respect one another! Then we offer acceptance and peach! We MUST be going to Hell!
*rolls eyes* LOL! I can't believe people can even argue that on these comment sections! What part of "some Christians are Unitarian Universalists" don't people understand?! It's just a basic moral set of beliefs that teaches us to love one another, respect one another & try to view the world from the eyes of another without judging!
Anyone who believes there is "more than one truth" when it relates to religious doctrine is an idiot. There's either one truth or no truth at all. This "church" is just a cover for marxism.
@Castaril No, it is a cover for cowardice. People don't want to think about the exclusivity of religion, so they say they are "spiritual" and "practice many religions." Well guess what, Jesus, Mohammed, and Siddartha Gotama Buddha would be appalled at universalism.
@dtdowntown67 I don't think you understand what "Universalism" meant in the first place when it comes to Unitarian Universalism. It means that everyone has the opportunity to be "saved" and heaven is a place for everyone, and not just for people who believe a certain way. Universalism teaches that it is your character and good deeds that bring you to heaven, not blind faith. So, Jesus, Mohammed, and Siddartha would NOT be appalled.
so Jesus saying that ihe is the only way is not just as valid as any other religion. You contradict yourself when you say you can't be certain. Are you certain that Jesus is not the only way? How do you know. You can't make absolute statements like this and say nobody is certain. Are you certain that you can't be certain?
@allinyourface777 You never heard Jesus say that he was the only way. You never saw him or heard him speak and neither did the authors of the gospels, they were written decades after his murder.
@allinyourface777 Where am i contradicting myself? I couldn't care less about whether or not he made the claim. You're the one that speaks as if you know.
Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
If you notice Jesus does not say that He is a way, a truth or a life. He says that he is The Way, The Truth and The Life and no one comes to God except through Him.
@dtdowntown67 Christianity is universal. Neither Jew or Greek, male or female, is excluded from Christ Kingdom. Come all who are heavy laden and burden down and I will give you rest
@allinyourface777 Yes, definetely. But it requires commitment. You don't just say a little prayer and then go on your merry way. And it is exclusive in the sense that Jesus is the only way. Jesus is all things for all people, but he makes it clear that there is no other way to attain salvation but through him.
By the way I'd like a UU to explain how they can "draw inspiration" from Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Buddhism, and paganism etc. considering that these beliefs contradict each other. I'd like to know how you reconcile a faith which states non-believers will burn for eternity in hell with one that instructs its followers to slay infidels. Its just more one-world bullshit for young, naive college students and emotional women.
Reality is RELATIVE, we all experience reality INDIRECTLY through our senses...we have no real idea of what's literally in front of our face, there could be anything there.... our brains are computers and we INTERPRET information presented to us, but it doesn't mean that it's the ONLY information.... what's real is that.... we just DON'T KNOW EVERYTHING.
(Part 2) ALL linked up with "Terrorist" So going back to what I was saying. If you want to know the truth watch Zeitgeist. I can't post a link in my post because the fed keeps denying my posts over it. You can find a free online movie on the website. Watch them both.... they are the truth and the only truth. If you need any further proof that you (or ANY religion) is wrong. In Quantum Physics time travel is possible, all you have to do is SAY that it's for example Friday when it's Thursday....
(Part 1) I'm reading a lot of people arguing.... people it's childish... Open Mindedness means that you're willing to learn and understand the FACT that you DON'T know everything. Holding your intellect for WHATEVER reason is a basically intellectual materialism.... just because you have been TOLD things repeatedly doesn't make it true! (BTW): Using a word or a phrase on a person is a way to Brainwash people...Example: The whole nation being told over and over about "Bin Laden" "911" "Al Qaeda"
you made the logical slip that in this case "one truth" semantically means "whole truth." there are truths and fallacies in every religion in the world. none are perfect, nut, again, they all harbor a seed of truth. however, none hold the whole truth because, as you know, our human minds are about as capable of understanding the whole truth as is one of the cells making up your lungs being capable of understanding you as an entire organism. so, if youre following me...
unitarians don't go for the dangerous idea that some group of humans out there are privy to the whole truth, but rather are open to the many pieces of truth that come from the array of belief systems around the world. All are valid, because the sense of divinity is inside of all of us - all who have ever lived. And the cool part is is that these people from amazingly diverse belief structures carry with them the same basic message of truth. Study other religions, even the dread islam, and see.
your analogy on absolute truth is extremely flawed in so many ways.
example.
whats 2+2?4 right? well what if I really want it to be 5? who are you to tell me I'm wrong? you are being very close minded and selfish in telling me that the answer is not 5.
I am not gonna get into a religious debate because its pointless and not important but I do believe in absolute truth. what thats is IDK
more than one truth, that is totally contradictory one plus one equals two Always will equal two, it's fact, truth One plus one can't equal anything else. One way, one truth, Jesus is the truth, the life, and the way John 14:6
@allinyourface777 Man, for a "Christian", you sure are restricting yourself to human terms. It's not a matter of a mathematical sum. It's a matter of interpreting the creator of this... or these multi-dimensional universes.
I know your kind allinyourface777, I used to believe like you do. Thank God I saw the light, I hope you do to someday.
trying to compare chocolate with bubble gum is a preference of flavors. Truth is not a mere flavor of the physical senses. It only shows that our God is gives us many choices in life. The ultimate choice is where will you spend eternity? Heaven or Hell, accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and savior and you shall be saved, Romans 10:9-10.
@allinyourface777 Your one-sidedness bothers me. There is more than one truth. Just because your Christianity is what works for you does not mean it works for others. In this world, it is all about embracing a spiritual path that speaks to you, and that is what UUism is all about. You represent just another of those conservative Christians who thinks it's always their way or the highway. Well, most of the world disagrees with you because there are many religions. Have a nice day.
@mangaanime3 Well that is too bad if it bothers you, he's right. All the religions, including Christianity, are exclusive. Don't insult him because he is merely saying what his religion tells him to say. Not everyone is as liberal as you, some people, like me for instance, believe there ARE absolute truths. And your right, most of the world disagrees with fundamental Christianity, just as they do universalism. They practice ONLY their faith, rather than take things from all of them.
@dtdowntown67 Who is right, who is wrong? Any religion, I feel, that tells that the way they believe is NOT the right way is not a good religion at all. We all would like there to be an "absolute" truth, but it all comes down to faith because God can't just be right in front of us to "prove" his existence to all the non-believers. That would diminish faith. But is it wrong for someone to have faith in something aside from Christian faith? I think not. But the Christian faith says otherwise..why?
@mangaanime3 Ok I few points here. On your first point, I agree, nothing to debate there.
On your second point, there is a difference between faith and truth. I could have faith that a man did not commit murder, but he still could have done it. Faith and Truth must be separated.
Third point, about Christianity being the only way. It may be rough, but I still believe it is the truth. Just because we don't like it doesn't mean that it's going to go away.
If person one's truth is "There is only one Truth," and person two's truth is "All Truths are true," then person two is in violation of his own rules. Because if "All Truths are true," then person one's truth MUST be right, but according to person one, he is the only one who is right!
"A" cannot also be "non-A"!
This aside, I do believe people of different faiths can still get along and accomplish things together.
@Sovonk But they didn't say all truths are true, they said more than one thing can be true to different people. Of course I think the question of "is there a god" is a yes or no question, along with other religious questions, but the idea is since concrete evidence doesn't exist through our experience we find different things to be true or not true based on what we do know. It's not so much that we're all right, but we all have different perceptions which leads different things to seem true.
Christianity believes that all one has to do is put faith in Jesus Christ. What @proverbs1722 said is exactly correct. And take a religion such as Buddhism, which doesn't even believe in a God. And Judaism, who believe that there is only God the Father. And Hinduism, who believe in many gods. Every religion is MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE. Get it through your heads.
Unitarian Univerasalistm is the unfortunate product of a liberal world. And I know I am going to get a lot of hate for saying that, but it's absolutely true. I have family who are unitarian, so don't say I HATE them, I'm just making the simple observation that it CANNOT EXIST. How can there be more than one truth if each religion IS ABSOLUTE AND CONTRADICTS THE OTHERS. My goodness I just can't understand how people can buy into this nonsense.
@dtdowntown67 Its not a religion, its simply marxism. They try to seduce you with their vagueness but when you really discover whats behind the euphemisms and empty words its not pretty.
@dtdowntown67 Its not extreme at all. Visit the website and try reading what they actually believe. You can't find an answer until you dig real deep and then you find the "social justice" links; aka "immigrant rights", gay marriage, and redistribution of wealth. They are allowed to hold their marxist beliefs but I just wish they would be honest and upfront instead of hiding behind the banner of "religion".
@Castaril Well I certainly believe they disrespect religion by taking a little bit out of each one. That's disturbing, considering that all religions are mutually exclusive. I think they just aren't bold enough to stand up to the exculsivity of it all. To me it's just cowardice and reflects the liberal views of today's society.
Dogma is mutually exclusive, values are not. When we say "draw inspiration" it's exactly what it says on the tin. UUs do not follow every belief of every doctrine, but are inspired by parts of religious texts that ring true for the individual.
@IlphaeRenegade Well I think you are disrespecting every religion when you do that. They weren't meant to just teach life lessons, they were meant to teach truth. For example Jesus says "I am the way the truth and the life no one comes to the Father but through me." May I ask what you believe?
@dtdowntown67 Generally speaking I'm an agnostic humanist. I believe that one should do the right thing simply because it's the right thing to do, and I'm really unconcerned about what repercussions my faith will have on my afterlife as long as I've lived my life well.
@IlphaeRenegade I respect that. I assume you are a moral relativist, so how exactly would you define "the right thing to do?" And when you say "lived my life well" what do you mean by that? Those are statements made on the basis that there is a set standard of right and wrong, so already you have created a moral framework of what is good and what is not good.
8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast. 10 For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.
Only having by Jesus as your Savior will you see Heaven.
@proverbs1722 I don't care what Ephesians 2:8-10 says. I wouldn't want to worship a god who's only criterion for eternal damnation was lack of faith to begin with, even if I did believe in heaven and hell.
22 Moreover, the Father judges no one, but has entrusted all judgment to the Son, 23 that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father. Whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father, who sent him. 24 “Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life.
I am an atheist and a UU. It is uplifting and inspirational to be able to actually belong to a church yet not fudge on my beliefs. The UU church has no central dogma, so each congregation gets a little different. I like the phrase 'the responsible search for truth' rather than 'everyone can be right'. My congregation tends to be pretty booking. Right now Marcus Borg's 'Reading the Bible again for the first time' is pretty hot. I also favour John Shelby Spong.
If there are multiple paths to heaven and diverse ways to heaven... well then, what happens when my Master said He is the truth, the way and the life that nobody goes to the Father but Through Him? Are they calling my Master a liar?
Unitarian Universalists are a bunch of Eddie Haskels telling Beaver he can get away with anything without getting spanked for it, Like Atheists believing all things are permissable because everybody ends up equally dead, you claim all things are permissable because everybody is equally saved. That's why you can't be trusted.
If Unitarians actually believe in all their nonsense about universal salvation without
any sort of Catholic Purgatory, doesn't it logically make sense that you should all kill yourselves to get to heaven like the Jonestown Cult or Heavens Gate rather than suffer here on Earth? Disbelief in spankings doesn't mean you can't get one.
Roman Catholics also believe in the possibility of universal salvation for anyone who chooses to be saved...but unlike Unitarian Universalism Catholic doctrine does not let people who commit horrible crimes escape justice after death no matter if they're saved or not. Without Purgatory universal salvation must logically be unjust.
this church is so fucking stupid. its as simple as this. if you believe in god you shouldnt be in a church praising him with others who believe in all different type of stuff.
"One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them, One Ring to bring them all, and in the Darkness bind them, in the Land of Mordor where shadows lie." There is only one way all human beings can logically be equal in all things and that is if we are all dead, which is why Unitarians support killing unborn babies and spreading AIDS.
We all have the same principles we just find faith in different things. so its not "anything goes" we just like to focus on being good to others and bettering ourselves. We believe in acceptance in one another and encouragement to spiritual growth in our congregations. I don't see any danger in that. I'm 16 and my church has given me a great perspective on life.
@RebeccaAF94 I think that your church has given you a good perspective; not many people in our age group would give such a calm, well thought out response to Nepthu. I totally agree, btw.
I wouldn't want to go to a church where people don't believe the same way. This anything goes mentality seems dangerous to me. It's interesting how these puppets are used to make kids think there's no concrete truths regarding God.
I can't speak for all UUs, but if you ask me, it isn't an anything goes mentality. I'm happy with anyone believing anything so long as they are able to tell me a good reason why they believe it. Why does it make such a difference that everyone doesn't believe the same thing? We can't demonstrate our beliefs to be true on these matters, so it's best to just be tolerant.
@Nepthu There are 30,000 different denominations of Christianity alone. Most of them believe that they have the right recipe to get into heaven because they are the only ones who have read the Bible the right way. As humans our judgment is limited and flawed. The sin of pride is the first and most dangerous one. If we are to find the truth we will need to approach it with humility, reason, open hearts and open minds.
Personally...I like Jesus "ice cream", and ONLY Jesus "ice cream". What an odd comparison. Seems to be a mostly cloudy religion.
ajeremy09 1 month ago
ah UU the one religion I keep thinking of joining
inquiry10 1 month ago
i am a pagan looking for a place to practice my religion, and express it without being judged by others. what can i expect from a Unitartian Universalist Church?
RedDragon033195 1 month ago
UU is a real religion, but unlike other religions, they do not have a creed. UU is focused on bringing 'heaven to the people' rather than bringing 'people to heaven'. UU brings together aspects from Paganism, Judiasm, Buddism, ect. Followers of UU may be athiest, polytheist, or have no label at all. Historically, UU does have roots in Christianity. UU does not bully you into following their views and they openly accept people of all lifestyles and sexual orientations.
MCG55SS 1 month ago
@MCG55SS It can't be a real religion if people can't even tell you what it's about. Basically, it sounds like 'you choose whatever you want to believe in, as long as it's tolerant & isn't viewed as a one-way path'. It doesn't make any sense.
ghostofxmaspast 1 month ago
I don't see how UU is a real religion though...
ghostofxmaspast 2 months ago
@ghostofxmaspast It's hard for some people to think of it as a "real" religion if it is not the same religions their parents raised them in and what they are accustomed to. Just because it is not what you grew up seeing throughout your community, or because they don't see God as a fairy tale figure in the sky and think of Jesus coming back and levitating them from the ground to go to a fantasy city in the sky doesn't mean it's not real.
ANGELBLU2042 2 months ago
@ANGELBLU2042 I wasn't intending my comment to be rude, but it still doesn't seem like a real religion. It's more like going to a cafeteria.
ghostofxmaspast 1 month ago
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standingontruth1 2 months ago
I am a Biblical scholar and a Unitarian. This site demonstates why the history of religion and the history of war, murder, opression and misogyny are parallel. The fundamentalism shown by both the Christians and the Unitarians on this comment board is unnecessary. We need not think alike to love alike. Christians:let the Unitarians go to hell if that is our choice. Unitarians: let the Christians hold fast to the absolute truth if that is their choice. We need not believe alike to love alike.
Izobelification 3 months ago
Now called Unitarian Universalists, historically you're correct @phillip78. The Unitarians' beliefs centred around the unity instead of the trinity. Universalists believed in universal salvation, and in the trinity. As the beliefs of each group evolved over the years, they realized that they were closer together than farther apart & merged. Some churches still id themselves as Unitarian, some as Universalist and some as UU but all stand on the foundation of the Principles & Purposes of the UUA.
ProfHelene 3 months ago
@nitroscity When did that take place? But a fyi, there are universalist who do not believe in all the doctrines of Unitarian. I believe in universal salvation, but not unitarian cause unitarians do not believe Jesus is the only way, and many other things like that.
phillip78 4 months ago
Unitarian and Universalists are NOT one in the same.
phillip78 4 months ago
@phillip78 You are right Phillip
whatthehellbook 4 months ago
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@whatthehellbook Most people think its the same and its not. Just shows how much they really know. Not much
phillip78 4 months ago
This is teaching from hell
TycoonManTech 4 months ago
@TycoonManTech The Bible does not teach eternal punishment. God's love and mercy endures forever. Does it really endure forever or only in this life? How can it be Good News if it doesn't translate to the afterlife?
1 Timothy 4:10- This is why we work hard and continue to struggle, for our hope is in the living God, who is the Savior of all people and particularly of all believers.
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whatthehellbook 4 months ago
So, let me get this straight: You can claim X, and I can claim Y, and we can BOTH be right? Really? So like, you can say you care about "women's health" and are "pro-choice" and I can say that abortion kills little girls in the womb, and we can both be right?
I can say that the scriptures are clear, there is a "hell" and that Stalin is burning there (for killing 10s of millions of human beings), but you can say that I shouldn't be so judgmental and that communism isn't so bad. (?)
ScottMacFie 5 months ago
@ScottMacFie the problem is you are used to a western cartesian way of thinking in where there is duality and the belief of something right and something wrong but there are other modes of understanding things in which what is true for someone in a certain context isnt necessarily true for others in another context ,concepts in eastern religions like non-duality in hinduism and ying yang in taoism can help you understand this better
DanteWhite 1 day ago
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1empathy 5 months ago
Jesus said You are either with me or against me. I am the way the truth and the life and noone can get to God but through me. Your either in or out. Your Gods creation. he loves you please come to him through Jesus Christ and come to his kingdom hes prepared for you. We sinned. God's perfect we couldnt be together but he loves us so he sent Jesus his son to take our punishment for us so that we may be with him in Heaven. not in hell. if you have any questions please reply. God bless.
squitchleton123 6 months ago
Moronic
riethc 6 months ago
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@UndeadGinger96 Yes you have the right to reject Jesus Christ as your Savior. And when you die God will Honor Your Choice For Hell that you made while you were alive.
proverbs1722 7 months ago
You got to be kidding me. Comparing truth to which flavor of ice cream you like best.
rbmath 8 months ago
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"BELIEVE ONLY IN JESUS BEFORE TOO LATE " OR "BURN IN HELL FOREVER"
fuckmania07 8 months ago
Unitarian Universalism is heresy.
The Bible is the objective authoritative, inspired, inerrent, infallible Word of the Living God, and it speaks quite plainly of the wicked being "cast into the Lake of Fire", being "tormented day and night forever and ever" (REVELATION 20:10)
UU = a sinking ship
doctorh2005 9 months ago
@doctorh2005 Prove it...
PhysStud2006 8 months ago
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@PhysStud2006
Prove what? Prove the Bible is the inspired Word of God?
doctorh2005 8 months ago
@doctorh2005 If tolerance and freedom is heresy, then I choose heresy.
BreakTheSkyMyseIf 7 months ago
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/// If tolerance and freedom is heresy, then I choose heresy ///
Tolerance? You're actually being "INtolerant" by saying I'm wrong - you're "INtolerant" of my beliefs. Hypocrite.
Also, ignorance is no more "freedom" any more than walking down a railway track withyour eyes covered.
Its not "true" freedom, but "false" freedom. Whoever taught you that thinking is a dumbnut.
doctorh2005 7 months ago
Its quite hilarious, Its a building full of people searching for Truth, but not one has found it so they keep searching and until then they have puppet shows and bake sales and cool stuff
JesusNonEnviromental 9 months ago
@JesusNonEnviromental Yes, but this video is for a class of 4 year olds in an RE program that have no clue what they are doing in church. We give to the less fortunate because we have it better than them.
itzjustsarah 9 months ago
@itzjustsarah I would ask you to just preach the Gospel to them, but your church is so apostate that would be a big order. Your church should change its name to Bake Sale and leave the preaching to the true Chrisitians who serve one God and know who they serve May the Lord have Mercy
JesusNonEnviromental 9 months ago
Unitarian Universalists are a planet destroying violent hate group that are nothing but mass murdering hypocrites. Unitarian Universalists are Nazi scum.
endthedrugwar 9 months ago
"Just because I may believe that chocolate ice cream is the best flavor, and you may believe that bubblegum is, doesn't mean we both can't be right."
Wait, what? Are you kidding me? Does anyone else see the blatant hole in that assumption? We aren't talking about PREFERENCES here, we are talking about TRUTH. If I say that the Civil War never occurred, and someone else says that it did, it doesn't matter how sincere I am, I would still be wrong. This has nothing to do with preferences.
dtdowntown67 10 months ago
@dtdowntown67
yes but this is a R.E. (religious education) for children, somewhat a 'story time.' so its not like they can go into a deep discussion on the beliefs of everyone. but yes you make a good point.
truesuccsessor01 10 months ago
unitariam universalist -_-
i'm sorry but you know the people to whom who Jesus will say on judgement day "I never knew you"? i don't want to judge anyone's position with God, but i would hazard a guess that many of such people will belong to Churches that preach this sort of thing :(
GoldenbanjoDJ 11 months ago
@GoldenbanjoDJ
Jesus is dead. He isn't going to be saying anything.
And there isn't going to be a judgment day - that is a Biblical fairytale. If there is a God, it isn't the God of Christianity or The Bible. Both have been proven as man made myths.
Syrinx69 9 months ago
@Syrinx69 Like it or not there is a Judgement Day coming:
Psalm 10:13
Why does the wicked man revile God? Why does he say to himself, “He won’t call me to account”?
Romans 14:12
So then, each of us will give an account of ourselves to God.
proverbs1722 9 months ago
@Syrinx69
Proven? How interesting. Have you died and come back to life to affirm this 'proof'?
you are hilarious
GoldenbanjoDJ 9 months ago
@Syrinx69 Actually every little prophecy Jesus fulfilled were written down a long time earlier. And it is proven hes fulfilled them. God loves you and so do i(not a creeper) but please. reply and i will share more with you. God bless.
squitchleton123 6 months ago
@GoldenbanjoDJ Dont witness God that way. Do it loveingly but also includ ethe truth.
squitchleton123 6 months ago
@squitchleton123
You're right. Thanks. I do know that this will happen though. They're going gainst Jesus' fundemental salvation promise
GoldenbanjoDJ 6 months ago
@GoldenbanjoDJ Ya just pray for them.
squitchleton123 6 months ago
A prime example of terrible puppetry in a church setting. Ladies and gentlemen, puppets are supposed to be in action, not to sit and spout dialogue. This would have been better as a radio show.
rmorse21 11 months ago
this video is wicked creepy...
happlion14 1 year ago
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Does every "woman" going/leading this fucking "church" have to look like a fucking dyke?
ExploringProphecy 1 year ago
@ExploringProphecy are you serious ?
LoveKingArthur 1 year ago
@ExploringProphecy no...just...no
happlion14 1 year ago
Christianity teaches me to love, honor, respect, be joyful, be happy, love my neighbor. Sounds like a lot of uus beliefs come from Christianity.
Standonarock 1 year ago 3
@Standonarock it varies, theres christain UU, agnostic UU, and atheist UU, this is christain UU who are christain but look for answers on the meaning of life and religion and the science behind them. the others are simple stories, agnostic, neither side but look for truth, and atheist dont believe in religion but look for thr truth as well.
sexhaie 1 year ago
@sexhaie John 14:6
Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
proverbs1722 11 months ago
@proverbs1722 ... yes and another preacher told me if i still believe in god ill still go to hell, and another said if you try to worship too hard ill go to hell, and another preacher told me god said killing is back yet he'll still forgive you even though its horrilbe acts in everyone's eyes and god said its unforgiviable and god killed out of fury in the bible and told us not to kill, thats what preachers tell me & brainwash me to think, mind fucking me, this is why ima UU, it makes more sense
sexhaie 11 months ago 7
@sexhaie Know Jesus, Know Heaven. No Jesus, No Heaven. It truly is just that simple.
proverbs1722 11 months ago
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@sexhaie Luke 13:2-3
2 Jesus answered, “Do you think that these Galileans were worse sinners than all the other Galileans because they suffered this way? 3 I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish.Luke 13:2-3
proverbs1722 11 months ago
@proverbs1722
Every two bit cult leader in the history of man has said pretty much the same.
Syrinx69 9 months ago
@Syrinx69 Revelation 21:8
But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.”
proverbs1722 9 months ago
@Standonarock UU is a combination of Unitarians and Universalists, both originally Christian groups. There are Christian UU's, Jewish UU's, Muslim UU's, Pagan UU's, etc..... Personally I just think of myself as a UU. I don't subscribe to any established religion, but I do believe in the basic tenants that most religions share: love, tolerance, acceptance...
satimiriam 9 months ago
@Standonarock A lot of people consider UU to be related to what most people consider "true" Christianity, yes.
And I should point out that the two belief systems can and in fact do often overlap (Christian UUs), so...
Divides 9 months ago
@Standonarock Without the hate and dogma and threat of hell.
playinggod247 6 months ago
@Standonarock That's true, and from many other faith traditions as well. The big difference is that we actually walk the walk. Unfortunately, most Christians are hypocrits, intolerant, hateful and arrogant. At their worst Christians advocate Dominionism and Reconstructionism - radical and incendiary beliefs abhorrent to the Unitarian Universalist. If you look UUism up, you will discover our "principles" rather than "beliefs." UUs are not dogmatic in their spiritual outlook.
jereuter01 5 months ago
@jereuter01 Is it "hateful" for one to say that he/she objects to gay marriage, and that he or she bases their belief/viewpoint based upon their religious beliefs?
Does your answer depend on whether or not the person positing such is Christian or Muslim?
Remember the great big FUSS, out in California with Prop 8, where all the liberal gay-rights groups were up in the faces of Muslims and protesting outside Mosques (which are openly anti-gay, and intolerant).
That's right...me neither.
ScottMacFie 5 months ago
@ScottMacFie Your questions remind me of those put to Jesus by the Pharisees....LOL And, you are correct I don't remember liveral gay rights behaving in that fashion. I do however know that African Americans here in the deep south are also oopenly anti-LGBT and intolerant. Hate is not an Abrahamic trait alone, although these faiths would lead one to believe so.
jereuter01 5 months ago
@Standonarock Sounds like you have the Jeffersonian version of the Bible, not the King James. BTW, it's not necessary for me and many like me to lead an ethical law-abiding life without having to believe in superstitutions dogma. I definately don't want to be a part of the interminable internecine warfare between the Abrahamic faiths. To hell with them.
jereuter01 5 months ago
@Standonarock
It seems to me, that this is what most religions teach.
...and you don't even need a religion to do any of that.
Abandonedmachine 4 months ago
@Standonarock Sounds like uu's beliefs come from me because Im an atheist and I believe it is important to love, honor, and be respectful too.
DELLIS0503 3 months ago
@Standonarock true one belief of unitarian universalists is that any member may draw beliefs or practices from any other religion but you dont have to be restricted to the totalitarian force if you dont want to
basically i can believe in respect honour love and other traits without being restricted to my belief in jesus or buddha or god
its not an all or nothing package
MsWackypanda 3 weeks ago
This "movement" is not a religion, its a cover for communism.
Castaril 1 year ago
@Castaril You're right about one thing, it is not a religion. However, I don't know about the communism part.
dtdowntown67 1 year ago
@Castaril Never under estimate the level of ignorance one can achieve. Wow
spannerjaxs 1 year ago
@Castaril Never under estimate the level of ignorance one can achieve. Wow
spannerjaxs 1 year ago
omg...that guy looks like such a nerd
savingpvtrybka 1 year ago
and share our joys and share our sorrows and together we create a community of friends, more than anything. So maybe we are a religion and maybe were not: you can believe one way or the other or you can do what I do and not get caught up in the minor details and instead be concerned with the major goal of being a good person.
briNmayginmakeap0rn0 1 year ago
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@briNmayginmakeap0rn0 I would hardly call what Jesus says a minor detail:
John 14:6
Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
proverbs1722 1 year ago
@briNmayginmakeap0rn0 What is good exactly?
dtdowntown67 1 year ago
@briNmayginmakeap0rn0 I grew up Catholic and became a UU about 20 years ago. Kids who grow up in UU churches are amazing. They're taught acceptance of themselves and others and to think for themselves. For example, next month our junior youth group will conduct the service (with help from their RE teacher), and each one will explain to the congregation their current thoughts on the purpose of life, what happens after death, and other big life questions. I couldn't have done that when I was 12!
tallenuf53 8 months ago
@tallenuf53 2 Thessalonians 2:10
and all the ways that wickedness deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved.
proverbs1722 8 months ago
UU's are awesome, and I approve of this video. The end.
erkagazm 1 year ago 2
unitarian universalist is not even really a "religion"
davlor86 1 year ago
@davlor86 such.ignorance
TheChesterJ 1 year ago
@TheChesterJ no seriously it's not, please tell me what do they believe in?
davlor86 1 year ago
@davlor86 Seriously, Unitarians believe that it is your buisness to believe whatever you want to believe, and we all share that belief. So we get together and believe what we want to believe in a group. Instead of having sermons about how everything we do is wrong in the eyes of the gracious Jesus, we talk about how we are good loving people who deserve to be happy. Instead of scaring our youngsters with the damnation of there atheist father, we teach them to love themselves and the world.
briNmayginmakeap0rn0 1 year ago
@briNmayginmakeap0rn0 Instead of asking our teenagers to accept Jesus as there lord and savoir, we ask them to accept themselves. We have Hanukkah parties and have services dedicated to the solstice and we talk about Jonah and the Whale and the Buddha and what makes us happy and what makes us sad and what we can do to make other people happy and decrease there pain. We accept one another for who they are and learn to appreciate them in that light. We sing songs...
briNmayginmakeap0rn0 1 year ago
@davlor86 you don't know until u've been to a UU church... it's also a religion because we share values and beliefs
iamwerido 1 year ago
They are confusing subjective truth claims like "I like choclate ice-cream," and "you like strawberry ice-cream" (different subjects means different truths) with objective truth claims. Subjective truth claims are neither right nor wrong, but objective truth claims are either right or wrong. Sydney is the captial of Australia is false. That statement is an objective truth claim. "Jesus physical body rose from the dead" is also an objective truth claim. It is either true or false.
BBBradH 1 year ago
cute
RavenBlaze 1 year ago
lol that's ridiculously cute :D
emilykbisignano 1 year ago
People of completely different faiths interacting under the same roof?!?!?!? Of all the truly evil things in the world, this must have them all beat!
alfyakuza 1 year ago
@alfyakuza xD
oOKdLuvsOo 1 year ago
@alfyakuza I know! We're just the most horrible thing on the planet! We love and respect one another! Then we offer acceptance and peach! We MUST be going to Hell!
*rolls eyes* LOL! I can't believe people can even argue that on these comment sections! What part of "some Christians are Unitarian Universalists" don't people understand?! It's just a basic moral set of beliefs that teaches us to love one another, respect one another & try to view the world from the eyes of another without judging!
GrowTheTruth 1 year ago
@GrowTheTruth Ooops! Acceptance and peace! Not peach. xD LOL!
GrowTheTruth 1 year ago
@GrowTheTruth I prefer acceptance and nectarine.
Fuzz = no bueno
alfyakuza 1 year ago
@alfyakuza LOL! Well, obviously right now I have acceptance and weed. xD
GrowTheTruth 1 year ago
Anyone who believes there is "more than one truth" when it relates to religious doctrine is an idiot. There's either one truth or no truth at all. This "church" is just a cover for marxism.
Castaril 1 year ago
@Castaril No, it is a cover for cowardice. People don't want to think about the exclusivity of religion, so they say they are "spiritual" and "practice many religions." Well guess what, Jesus, Mohammed, and Siddartha Gotama Buddha would be appalled at universalism.
dtdowntown67 1 year ago
@dtdowntown67 I don't think you understand what "Universalism" meant in the first place when it comes to Unitarian Universalism. It means that everyone has the opportunity to be "saved" and heaven is a place for everyone, and not just for people who believe a certain way. Universalism teaches that it is your character and good deeds that bring you to heaven, not blind faith. So, Jesus, Mohammed, and Siddartha would NOT be appalled.
mangaanime3 1 year ago
@mangaanime3 No religion teaches that. I know Christianity doesn't. Where is your evidence that this philosophy has any truth to it?
dtdowntown67 1 year ago
so Jesus saying that ihe is the only way is not just as valid as any other religion. You contradict yourself when you say you can't be certain. Are you certain that Jesus is not the only way? How do you know. You can't make absolute statements like this and say nobody is certain. Are you certain that you can't be certain?
allinyourface777 1 year ago
@allinyourface777 You never heard Jesus say that he was the only way. You never saw him or heard him speak and neither did the authors of the gospels, they were written decades after his murder.
alfyakuza 1 year ago
how are you certain he didn't make this claim If your certain are you not contradicting yourself once again
allinyourface777 1 year ago
@allinyourface777 Where am i contradicting myself? I couldn't care less about whether or not he made the claim. You're the one that speaks as if you know.
alfyakuza 1 year ago
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@allinyourface777 John 14:6
Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
If you notice Jesus does not say that He is a way, a truth or a life. He says that he is The Way, The Truth and The Life and no one comes to God except through Him.
proverbs1722 1 year ago
@dtdowntown67 Christianity is universal. Neither Jew or Greek, male or female, is excluded from Christ Kingdom. Come all who are heavy laden and burden down and I will give you rest
allinyourface777 1 year ago
@allinyourface777 Yes, definetely. But it requires commitment. You don't just say a little prayer and then go on your merry way. And it is exclusive in the sense that Jesus is the only way. Jesus is all things for all people, but he makes it clear that there is no other way to attain salvation but through him.
dtdowntown67 1 year ago
By the way I'd like a UU to explain how they can "draw inspiration" from Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Buddhism, and paganism etc. considering that these beliefs contradict each other. I'd like to know how you reconcile a faith which states non-believers will burn for eternity in hell with one that instructs its followers to slay infidels. Its just more one-world bullshit for young, naive college students and emotional women.
Castaril 1 year ago
Don't be deceived. This "religion" is just a cover for marxism and redistribution of wealth.
Castaril 1 year ago
@Castaril You are an idiot.
mangaanime3 1 year ago
Reality is RELATIVE, we all experience reality INDIRECTLY through our senses...we have no real idea of what's literally in front of our face, there could be anything there.... our brains are computers and we INTERPRET information presented to us, but it doesn't mean that it's the ONLY information.... what's real is that.... we just DON'T KNOW EVERYTHING.
sugarcane2013 1 year ago
@sugarcane2013
That was Part 3 Guys, sorry I forgot to put that in there.
sugarcane2013 1 year ago
(Part 2) ALL linked up with "Terrorist" So going back to what I was saying. If you want to know the truth watch Zeitgeist. I can't post a link in my post because the fed keeps denying my posts over it. You can find a free online movie on the website. Watch them both.... they are the truth and the only truth. If you need any further proof that you (or ANY religion) is wrong. In Quantum Physics time travel is possible, all you have to do is SAY that it's for example Friday when it's Thursday....
sugarcane2013 1 year ago
(Part 1) I'm reading a lot of people arguing.... people it's childish... Open Mindedness means that you're willing to learn and understand the FACT that you DON'T know everything. Holding your intellect for WHATEVER reason is a basically intellectual materialism.... just because you have been TOLD things repeatedly doesn't make it true! (BTW): Using a word or a phrase on a person is a way to Brainwash people...Example: The whole nation being told over and over about "Bin Laden" "911" "Al Qaeda"
sugarcane2013 1 year ago
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you made the logical slip that in this case "one truth" semantically means "whole truth." there are truths and fallacies in every religion in the world. none are perfect, nut, again, they all harbor a seed of truth. however, none hold the whole truth because, as you know, our human minds are about as capable of understanding the whole truth as is one of the cells making up your lungs being capable of understanding you as an entire organism. so, if youre following me...
m2shafer 1 year ago
unitarians don't go for the dangerous idea that some group of humans out there are privy to the whole truth, but rather are open to the many pieces of truth that come from the array of belief systems around the world. All are valid, because the sense of divinity is inside of all of us - all who have ever lived. And the cool part is is that these people from amazingly diverse belief structures carry with them the same basic message of truth. Study other religions, even the dread islam, and see.
m2shafer 1 year ago
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@m2shafer Jesus is The Truth, The Way, The Life and The Only Way Back To God:
John 14:6
Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
proverbs1722 1 year ago
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m2shafer 1 year ago
your analogy on absolute truth is extremely flawed in so many ways.
example.
whats 2+2?4 right? well what if I really want it to be 5? who are you to tell me I'm wrong? you are being very close minded and selfish in telling me that the answer is not 5.
I am not gonna get into a religious debate because its pointless and not important but I do believe in absolute truth. what thats is IDK
joshsines 1 year ago
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DreamsofMajesty 1 year ago
more than one truth, that is totally contradictory one plus one equals two Always will equal two, it's fact, truth One plus one can't equal anything else. One way, one truth, Jesus is the truth, the life, and the way John 14:6
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m2shafer 1 year ago
@allinyourface777 Man, for a "Christian", you sure are restricting yourself to human terms. It's not a matter of a mathematical sum. It's a matter of interpreting the creator of this... or these multi-dimensional universes.
I know your kind allinyourface777, I used to believe like you do. Thank God I saw the light, I hope you do to someday.
greyswans 1 year ago
trying to compare chocolate with bubble gum is a preference of flavors. Truth is not a mere flavor of the physical senses. It only shows that our God is gives us many choices in life. The ultimate choice is where will you spend eternity? Heaven or Hell, accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and savior and you shall be saved, Romans 10:9-10.
allinyourface777 1 year ago
@allinyourface777 Your one-sidedness bothers me. There is more than one truth. Just because your Christianity is what works for you does not mean it works for others. In this world, it is all about embracing a spiritual path that speaks to you, and that is what UUism is all about. You represent just another of those conservative Christians who thinks it's always their way or the highway. Well, most of the world disagrees with you because there are many religions. Have a nice day.
mangaanime3 1 year ago
@mangaanime3 Well that is too bad if it bothers you, he's right. All the religions, including Christianity, are exclusive. Don't insult him because he is merely saying what his religion tells him to say. Not everyone is as liberal as you, some people, like me for instance, believe there ARE absolute truths. And your right, most of the world disagrees with fundamental Christianity, just as they do universalism. They practice ONLY their faith, rather than take things from all of them.
dtdowntown67 1 year ago
@dtdowntown67 Who is right, who is wrong? Any religion, I feel, that tells that the way they believe is NOT the right way is not a good religion at all. We all would like there to be an "absolute" truth, but it all comes down to faith because God can't just be right in front of us to "prove" his existence to all the non-believers. That would diminish faith. But is it wrong for someone to have faith in something aside from Christian faith? I think not. But the Christian faith says otherwise..why?
mangaanime3 1 year ago
@mangaanime3 Ok I few points here. On your first point, I agree, nothing to debate there.
On your second point, there is a difference between faith and truth. I could have faith that a man did not commit murder, but he still could have done it. Faith and Truth must be separated.
Third point, about Christianity being the only way. It may be rough, but I still believe it is the truth. Just because we don't like it doesn't mean that it's going to go away.
dtdowntown67 1 year ago
i like pooping
thengclan 1 year ago
If person one's truth is "There is only one Truth," and person two's truth is "All Truths are true," then person two is in violation of his own rules. Because if "All Truths are true," then person one's truth MUST be right, but according to person one, he is the only one who is right!
"A" cannot also be "non-A"!
This aside, I do believe people of different faiths can still get along and accomplish things together.
Sovonk 1 year ago
@Sovonk But they didn't say all truths are true, they said more than one thing can be true to different people. Of course I think the question of "is there a god" is a yes or no question, along with other religious questions, but the idea is since concrete evidence doesn't exist through our experience we find different things to be true or not true based on what we do know. It's not so much that we're all right, but we all have different perceptions which leads different things to seem true.
SP1K3thalyrical 1 year ago
Can a satanist go?
Azazel7726 1 year ago
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I am a satanist can I come check out UU?
Azazel7726 1 year ago
Christianity believes that all one has to do is put faith in Jesus Christ. What @proverbs1722 said is exactly correct. And take a religion such as Buddhism, which doesn't even believe in a God. And Judaism, who believe that there is only God the Father. And Hinduism, who believe in many gods. Every religion is MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE. Get it through your heads.
dtdowntown67 1 year ago
Unitarian Univerasalistm is the unfortunate product of a liberal world. And I know I am going to get a lot of hate for saying that, but it's absolutely true. I have family who are unitarian, so don't say I HATE them, I'm just making the simple observation that it CANNOT EXIST. How can there be more than one truth if each religion IS ABSOLUTE AND CONTRADICTS THE OTHERS. My goodness I just can't understand how people can buy into this nonsense.
dtdowntown67 1 year ago 2
@dtdowntown67 Its not a religion, its simply marxism. They try to seduce you with their vagueness but when you really discover whats behind the euphemisms and empty words its not pretty.
Castaril 1 year ago
@Castaril Well I think that may be a little extreme...
dtdowntown67 1 year ago
@dtdowntown67 Its not extreme at all. Visit the website and try reading what they actually believe. You can't find an answer until you dig real deep and then you find the "social justice" links; aka "immigrant rights", gay marriage, and redistribution of wealth. They are allowed to hold their marxist beliefs but I just wish they would be honest and upfront instead of hiding behind the banner of "religion".
Castaril 1 year ago
@Castaril Well I certainly believe they disrespect religion by taking a little bit out of each one. That's disturbing, considering that all religions are mutually exclusive. I think they just aren't bold enough to stand up to the exculsivity of it all. To me it's just cowardice and reflects the liberal views of today's society.
dtdowntown67 1 year ago
@dtdowntown67
Dogma is mutually exclusive, values are not. When we say "draw inspiration" it's exactly what it says on the tin. UUs do not follow every belief of every doctrine, but are inspired by parts of religious texts that ring true for the individual.
IlphaeRenegade 1 year ago
@IlphaeRenegade Well I think you are disrespecting every religion when you do that. They weren't meant to just teach life lessons, they were meant to teach truth. For example Jesus says "I am the way the truth and the life no one comes to the Father but through me." May I ask what you believe?
dtdowntown67 1 year ago
@dtdowntown67 Generally speaking I'm an agnostic humanist. I believe that one should do the right thing simply because it's the right thing to do, and I'm really unconcerned about what repercussions my faith will have on my afterlife as long as I've lived my life well.
IlphaeRenegade 1 year ago
@IlphaeRenegade I respect that. I assume you are a moral relativist, so how exactly would you define "the right thing to do?" And when you say "lived my life well" what do you mean by that? Those are statements made on the basis that there is a set standard of right and wrong, so already you have created a moral framework of what is good and what is not good.
dtdowntown67 1 year ago
@IlphaeRenegade Your "Good Works" can not save you:
Ephesians 2:8-10
8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast. 10 For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.
Only having by Jesus as your Savior will you see Heaven.
proverbs1722 1 year ago
@proverbs1722 I don't care what Ephesians 2:8-10 says. I wouldn't want to worship a god who's only criterion for eternal damnation was lack of faith to begin with, even if I did believe in heaven and hell.
IlphaeRenegade 1 year ago
@IlphaeRenegade John 5:22-24
22 Moreover, the Father judges no one, but has entrusted all judgment to the Son, 23 that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father. Whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father, who sent him. 24 “Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life.
proverbs1722 1 year ago
So what does the phrase "people of faith" mean to Unitarians?
michalchik 1 year ago
What is the UU attitude towards members holding beliefs that would be considered superstitious?
TFarache 1 year ago
I am an atheist and a UU. It is uplifting and inspirational to be able to actually belong to a church yet not fudge on my beliefs. The UU church has no central dogma, so each congregation gets a little different. I like the phrase 'the responsible search for truth' rather than 'everyone can be right'. My congregation tends to be pretty booking. Right now Marcus Borg's 'Reading the Bible again for the first time' is pretty hot. I also favour John Shelby Spong.
35starfish 1 year ago
@35starfish booking = bookish
35starfish 1 year ago
If there are multiple paths to heaven and diverse ways to heaven... well then, what happens when my Master said He is the truth, the way and the life that nobody goes to the Father but Through Him? Are they calling my Master a liar?
SaintMichael82 1 year ago
lol bubble gum an chocolate. an fool hath said in his heart there is no God.
rdavian 1 year ago
That chores joke got a lot of laughs
Vegemighty 1 year ago
Believe in JESUS or burn in hell for eternity !!!
fuckmania07 1 year ago
@fuckmania07 exactly
EnlightenedCat 1 year ago
Wait what? So basically UU is a meeting of anyone and everyone who talk about...?
vargulf19 1 year ago
we are better digging deep wells in our faith...whatever it may be...then just sampling from many. Peace
1macboo 1 year ago
Unitarian Universalists are a bunch of Eddie Haskels telling Beaver he can get away with anything without getting spanked for it, Like Atheists believing all things are permissable because everybody ends up equally dead, you claim all things are permissable because everybody is equally saved. That's why you can't be trusted.
Texasjim2007 1 year ago
If Unitarians actually believe in all their nonsense about universal salvation without
any sort of Catholic Purgatory, doesn't it logically make sense that you should all kill yourselves to get to heaven like the Jonestown Cult or Heavens Gate rather than suffer here on Earth? Disbelief in spankings doesn't mean you can't get one.
Texasjim2007 1 year ago
Roman Catholics also believe in the possibility of universal salvation for anyone who chooses to be saved...but unlike Unitarian Universalism Catholic doctrine does not let people who commit horrible crimes escape justice after death no matter if they're saved or not. Without Purgatory universal salvation must logically be unjust.
Texasjim2007 1 year ago
your just a cheerleader. I wish I could kick you off the fence myself. You are a tank titty troll dog peace
xavierwhitepimp 1 year ago
this church is so fucking stupid. its as simple as this. if you believe in god you shouldnt be in a church praising him with others who believe in all different type of stuff.
nycolombian91 1 year ago
"One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them, One Ring to bring them all, and in the Darkness bind them, in the Land of Mordor where shadows lie." There is only one way all human beings can logically be equal in all things and that is if we are all dead, which is why Unitarians support killing unborn babies and spreading AIDS.
Texasjim2007 1 year ago
@Nepthu:
We all have the same principles we just find faith in different things. so its not "anything goes" we just like to focus on being good to others and bettering ourselves. We believe in acceptance in one another and encouragement to spiritual growth in our congregations. I don't see any danger in that. I'm 16 and my church has given me a great perspective on life.
RebeccaAF94 1 year ago
@RebeccaAF94 I think that your church has given you a good perspective; not many people in our age group would give such a calm, well thought out response to Nepthu. I totally agree, btw.
colossus999 1 year ago
@RebeccaAF94 Is Jesus your Savior?
proverbs1722 1 year ago
VIVA UU
bolillo239 1 year ago
I am that I am. That is where the existence of god can be found.
vanessafarmfresh 1 year ago
REPENT YOU MORONS!!!!!!!
Beorwulf2008 1 year ago
@Beorwulf2008 - Haa haa. I bet your God appreciates your hatefulness and name calling. Think about it. Go team UU!
Sarahviolett 1 year ago
the Unitarians are muslims. As muslims we say, there is no God except Allah, Jessus the messanger of Him.
MSA1771 1 year ago
I wouldn't want to go to a church where people don't believe the same way. This anything goes mentality seems dangerous to me. It's interesting how these puppets are used to make kids think there's no concrete truths regarding God.
Nepthu 1 year ago 2
@Nepthu Hi Nepthu, thanks for the insight.
I can't speak for all UUs, but if you ask me, it isn't an anything goes mentality. I'm happy with anyone believing anything so long as they are able to tell me a good reason why they believe it. Why does it make such a difference that everyone doesn't believe the same thing? We can't demonstrate our beliefs to be true on these matters, so it's best to just be tolerant.
colossus999 1 year ago
@Nepthu There are 30,000 different denominations of Christianity alone. Most of them believe that they have the right recipe to get into heaven because they are the only ones who have read the Bible the right way. As humans our judgment is limited and flawed. The sin of pride is the first and most dangerous one. If we are to find the truth we will need to approach it with humility, reason, open hearts and open minds.
michalchik 1 year ago