the tim burton batman movies are the best, i liked the dark knight but still....these movies have a more artistic vision that Tim Burton always puts in his movies, and the newer batman movies have that realistic feeling to them
i think some of the performances in these tim burton batman films get overlooked and are underrated. nicholson was fantastic as the joker in the first one (he just gets overshadowed by ledger's joker), and devito was a perfect cast for the penguin.
@16moviefan Because everyone thinks Nolan is a flawaless God when it comes to batman which i strongly disagree, he's not as bad as Schumacher but he's not that great. Have you seen what Bane now looks like? Ugh.
@starkiller20293 I'm actually liking what he's doing with the Bane character. It'll be a nice change from him being portrayed as a dumb muscle. Nolan's problem with the Batman films is that he spends too little time on giving the characters any depth. They all have their shticks and your basic movie-induced drama/tension and that's pretty much it. I'm hoping his Bane will be interesting (at the very least).
@starkiller20293 What I meant was that aside from the comics, the animated series and the Arkham Asylum game, every other version of Bane I've seen was playing like a dumb muscle. Plus, you can never stay "accurate" when making a comic book movie because comics themselves never stay accurate withing themselves..
@Johnlindsey289 Scarecow. They amde a pathologically evil, twisted and demnted sociopath into a bitch boy in a suit ( seriously Nolan not EVERY villain in the comics wears a suit!). Joker, when did Joker ever have a knife like thata nd was obsessed with it? Also they spent too much time trying to amke him seem shockinga n evil and not as a legitimate crazy dude. They trie dtoo harda nd Catwoman. Anne Hathaway is hot but that suit...yeah...it sucks.
What do you think of Batman the animated series and the animated movies including Under The Red Hood? Do you think Bane in the new movie will be an improvement over the simpleton from Batman and Robin?
I don't get it, why don't batman just rob a weapons store and get the Gotham city cleared from criminals once and for all by shooting the suckers? Well just cause requires a just sacrifice... I have been lately a big fan of Scolar Viari, he knows how to handle things, not like that batman fuck...
This character explains atrue story that would happen in real. Painful case of a mankind was given up and being wrong, thrown to the king of birds and animals to be raised among them. He grown up on hate and isolation. Then we come to charge him more on his actions at last. Although his parents were a part of this. that's the way is in life. Who chosed his name or his looks b4 comin to the earth? no body .. then why him? guess he was asking such question every single moment and revenge up to it.
@TheJamesmario Riddle me this. Who is the person who thought he's comic genious and didn't get the other guy's joke and took it seriousely? Anwser is, YOU are.
@Mittensshnookums Depends on which rendition. In here, he's great. But he's always been near my least fav. Batman villion because he's usually presented quite plain, a quirky genius but that's it.
I *love* the Joker because he tends to be portrayed in the way Nolan portrayed him - absolutely insane with complete wickedness he never truly understands is downright terrible.
Depends on the rendition; I quite like the Penguin here.
@SBIMEZM86 I agree, DC comics took alot of stuff from burton's batman movies and made them cannon, i cannot see why they wanted to keep the boring gangster gentleman penguin over this one
@BrOoKiIeBaBeH in the comics, he was only slightly ugly; while his parents still hated him, he used their money to found an organized criminal empire; "The Penguin" was just a nickname that stuck because of his penchant for always wearing tuxedos
in this movie, his deformities were so hideous that his parents tossed him into a river that emptied in the sewers; he's called "The Penguin" here because of his beak-like nose, and flipper-like hands
Because most Batman villains would blush at the amount of blood politicians have on their hands, whether that be in America, Britain, China, Russia or anywhere else.
@AziMeX Right, so the majority of people in the free world elect people that murder left and right? All, except you, of course...
Tell me, do you always have such trouble spotting sarcasm? My point was that you were wrong in your assessment of elected politicians; not that you actually vote for murderers... In other words, you're just another of the multitude of dimwits in this world, whose gut reaction to the word "politics" is 100% negative, despite a total lack of knowledge on the subject.
Gotta love his face before he says his name. All he can think is "crap.... I've been looking for my name my whole life, and THIS is the best my parents could do?? <:S" *lol*
@Bobzeaux thats funny but he did not look up his parents in the records he used it as an excuse to look up the first born sons of the city he already knew his parents and their is a subtle hint that he may of killed them
Imagine when they put the Penguin back in the Batman movies the role is taken on by Jack Black, I'm not just trying to be an idot either. I mean take this into consideration Jack Black=Short Fat Guy, Penguin=Fat Short guy and it would be nice to see Jack Black take on a serious role.
i get what your saying but do you think Jack Black doesnt take every role seriously, hes a master of his craft and thats pretty serious but i would like to see him as the penguin as well.
Jack Black ain't short? well, anyway. I don't think teh role would be suitable for him. Like people don't want anymore Jokers because Heath was just brilliant! I'm happy with Danny as the Penguin, and would want him to reprise his role as the man with teh shiny flippers.
ugh. I hate that.. thats ignorant thinking.. no more Joker? at all? thats extremely hindering on the creative process, not to mention it kills creative thought by not being allowed to fluxuate and allow an actor to change for a role like that.
also; Ledger was good: his role sucked. I did NOT like that Joker.
Exactly. I hate that they're not doing another Joker because Ledger died. There's so many possiblities if they got another actor: Harley Quinn!! But I don't think many actors would want to touch that role especially after the huge impact and love for Ledger's Joker now.
plus, harley would NEVER work in nolan's dark, gritty, realistic version of batman. harley is there for comic relief. she's the joker's sidekick. harley, with her bubbly, over-the-top, and flat out cartoonish personality would work about as well as a short-shorts wearing robin...
Well yeah (I mentioned that in other batman videos). Its a pitfall of Nolan's realism. She would've worked great in Burton's version (which had a slight fantasy touch). I'm just happy their making batman movies again in general!
i doubt he'd never be used again... just not in the nolan films.... its just too much of a risk replacing heath.... if they got an actor that was just SLIGHTLY off, the movie would be yet another action sequel that is sub-par to the first (or second in this case). i know that it'd still be good, but you cant settle with just good. the dark knight would have been good without heath, but WITH heath, that good movie becomes AMAZING
Yeah but dark knight wasnt written like joker was in the comics he was more of a crazy gangster in the dark night then a funny over the top killer like in BTAS
At first I really didn't like the Penguin, mainly because of the live action Batman show. After watching this movie, many years ago, he had become a favorite.
Also, if any comic book/ Batman fans hasn't read "Joker's Asylum: The Penguin" you should. It's great.
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No, you're just a disgusting freak who used his childhood trauma as an excuse for killing a lot of innocent people...FUCK YOU Mr.Penguin, I'm glad you died, freak, and Batman was glad too...
With Heath Ledger's Joker, who represents pure chaotic evil, this sad and deformed Penguin is by far the best Batman villain ever appeared on the big screen. He has my total comprehension in this moment of revelation of his humanity.
as a merry man who knows how to live a happy life and get caught in the moment.
Like when he's driving the cop car, we see a relaxed Joker, letting the wind caress his face, I've never seen a Joker that happy in film, truly happy, not sarcastic-happy.
@Nodrog666 That's not true... he is indeed an outcast, unlucky and deform and because all of this he became evil... but Quasimodo is the same as him and he did not plan a children massacre.
@ACDC392333 He hates the world, it's a very complicated character motivation,a mix between insane and alone and evil and wanting to be accepted, Nolan can't do that.
He was a guy who lived in the sewers, teamed up with a crook business guy to try to become mayor, and failed, causing him to take revenge by trying to kill gotham's children and after that failed, use his penguins to try to throw missiles all over the city. All his failures are of course caused by batman ;)
yeah, but at least they die quickly. The joker slowly kills people and enjoys it and treats it as a joke. He freaken cut his face up with a knife. That's sick. Hanging a cop from a building after cutting up his face and scaring him to death in front of Gotham, that's sick. The Penguin would stand no chance at all against the joker. He's just too smart.
there are two versions of this character though. i'd like to see the more human one played considering the mutant version was done pretty successfully. the maker of the dark knight would be interested in this more human version in particular i would bet... that is if penguin gets a spot in the new movie series that is
The more human version is the correct version (this Penguin is entirely of Burten's invention and seems to be sorely out of place in a Batman film). He is something like Blofeld from the Bond films, a chique, suave character who knows how to manipulate the criminal elements below him. Pretty interesting character really.
Well, there's two ways to portray him... one as a deformed monter, like Burton's Penguin, or as a high class aristocrat, much like the 1960's Penguin. Personally I would love it if the Penguin became the new mob kingpin, Since Batman caught the first kingpin in Batman Begins and Two Face and the Joker killed the three mob lords in the Dark Knight.
Well most likely Nolan would've gone with a more realistic approach and not added the penguin like deformities. But even still, he said it was just too complicated and unrealistic and wasn't worth bothering for. He was dropped out of TDK, and that's that.
No one knows what will be in the next movie. The plot, stories, characters, et al hasn't been written yet, I don't know where fans are getting all these radical ideas telling people what will be in the next movie, it's like they lose all concept of reality, lol.
i saw somewhere that the penguin would probably be in it, and that Johnny depp would maby play the riddler and angelina jolie the catwoman, but im not sure.
i was reading an icelandic paper, it was an article about that johnny depp would maby play the riddler and someone else the penguin, but i may have got it wrong xD
this is prob one of the best ones, the one with mr freeze n poisen ivy just ruined the whole series, but batman begins made up for it as will the dark knight .. cant wait !!
This scene is a perfect example of what makes Returns not just the best of the Batman films in my opinion, but quite possibly the finest comic book movie ever. As the Penguin confronts the throng of reporters, you really want his forgiveness to be sincere. But it isn't. He hates his parents, he hates the world, and he won't be satisfied until every human being is as miserable and lonely as he is. He plans to destroy Gotham even as he shamelessly plays on its pity. The Penguin's dark, man.
I wouldn't call it the best comic book movie ever, but it is in my opinion the best Batman movie. I am not a Tim Burton fan either, and to be frank the Penguin did not act that way in the comics... yet everything in this movie... it just clicks. Perfectly to me.
Part of what makes this the finest comic-based film, in my opinion, is that it functions well on a lot of levels. You can appreciate it as a hero-beats-up-villain flick, or if you so choose you can disssect the motives of a disgruntled secretary-terrorist and a vengeful sewer messiah. And it's immensely quotable, a trait missing from most other superhero films. All this, without the pretentiousness associated with the otherwise superb Sin City or Spider-Man's over-the-top silliness.
Best? Explain to me why Bruce Wanye had Bat-signal reflectors installed on Wayne Manor. Wouldn't someone notice those? The obvious flaw in logic and intelligence was just a sign of things to come. This movie was worse than Batman, and no where near "Finest comic book movie ever."
A Bat-signal PERIOD is a silly concept. If something like reflectors on Wayne Manor is enough to make you overlook the incredible character depth and rich dialogue in the film, comic book movies might not be the best movies for you. The first Batman was a fantastic movie, but the Joker, while a very entertaining character, was a little one-dimensional (which is suitable for a stirring melodrama, but Batman Returns is arguably a different kind of movie altogether).
Explain this. Why is that Batman pleaded with Catwoman to not kill Max Schreck? In Batman, he was the reason why the Joker was killed and 5 minutes before begging Catwoman, he cause the air conditioner to explode. Batman's a smart guy, so he MUST have known that the Penguin would die from that. Not only that, but he ripped off his mask in front of Schreck, a no good, dirty business man, who would ultimately use that against Batman. So Batman's ok with killing, as long as its him doing it.
It's true, Batman is directly responsible for the death of the Joker in the first film. Burton's Batman is a lot like Bob Kane's original Batman, where, like a police detective, he'll kill someone if they try to escape or pose a threat. Shreck was a bad guy, but he wasn't exactly a threat (to Batman's knowledge, anyway). Revealing his identity wasn't the best idea, but it was an emotional moment for him; he thought that perhaps unmasking would be a peace-making gesture.
@angeltosome batman was bad? if you dont like comic book movies, okay dont watch things associated with them, if you are a comic fan, you are asshole, and a little superman fanboy, dont come ruin our experience
Its so easy to kill this guy though. He doesn't put up much cop.
Sara94Lee 1 week ago
And this is from Batman?
RobloxMan241 2 weeks ago
@RobloxMan241 No, Batman Returns.
TheMykcal 2 weeks ago
No wonder people call him Mr. Penguin
RobloxMan241 2 weeks ago
a penguin is a bird that cannot fly.....
no shit
Onefromthedarkness 2 weeks ago
realy the best penguin ever
1236sason 1 month ago
one of the greatest Danny's roles ever
cinemalover1992 1 month ago
The only other Oswald I know is Oswald The Lucky Rabbit. :p
GremlinsandCrites 2 months ago
super film et dany est superbe !
alucardof62 2 months ago
I love DeVito's Penguin. Too bad Tim Burton never made a movie starring Scarecrow. This character is so Burton's type
21h040349160 2 months ago 4
I love how serious he is right here.
WardragonLog101 2 months ago
I played this stinking city like a harp from hell!
Jaysus777Live 3 months ago 2
deeandra, go download me a hoagie from the internet.
tranceaddictallnight 4 months ago
great movie!!dark atmosphere like the very comics book!!!
SnakeTheLegend1986 5 months ago
I am a man!!
*punch*
13mungoman13 5 months ago 3
"My name is Oswald Cobblepot! Now.....who wants to get sweaty in a Wendy's bathroom?"
thatonedrewguy 5 months ago
Oops, i dropped my magnum condom for my monster dong.
terrykennedyboi 5 months ago
I am a man! I have a name! And i'm 40
wallyreimers 5 months ago
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wallyreimers 5 months ago
lmao...why am i laughing soo damn hard?? >XD
Moonloved6 5 months ago
I am a man! I have a name! "penguinman meatballpot"
megahardcock 6 months ago
Thank you Tim Burton, you gave us the best Penguin ever.
UndeadTurk 6 months ago 3
and later he says I AM NOT A MAN I AM AN ANIMAL COLDBLOODED
darkitten1 6 months ago
@darkitten1 I know and that`s sad that He sees himself as one. :(
ThirdStreetSaint777 6 months ago
the tim burton batman movies are the best, i liked the dark knight but still....these movies have a more artistic vision that Tim Burton always puts in his movies, and the newer batman movies have that realistic feeling to them
T0m291189 7 months ago
i have this on dvd this movie is ammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmazing
999applejack 7 months ago
So are you a man or an animal? Make up ur mind dumbass!!!
TheBatmanSmells 7 months ago 3
@TheBatmanSmells lmao
15551cue 6 months ago
Iam A Man I Have A Name.....OSWALD COBBLEPOT
lilbl6 8 months ago
i think some of the performances in these tim burton batman films get overlooked and are underrated. nicholson was fantastic as the joker in the first one (he just gets overshadowed by ledger's joker), and devito was a perfect cast for the penguin.
16moviefan 9 months ago
@16moviefan Because everyone thinks Nolan is a flawaless God when it comes to batman which i strongly disagree, he's not as bad as Schumacher but he's not that great. Have you seen what Bane now looks like? Ugh.
starkiller20293 8 months ago
@starkiller20293 I'm actually liking what he's doing with the Bane character. It'll be a nice change from him being portrayed as a dumb muscle. Nolan's problem with the Batman films is that he spends too little time on giving the characters any depth. They all have their shticks and your basic movie-induced drama/tension and that's pretty much it. I'm hoping his Bane will be interesting (at the very least).
Danthepest1 8 months ago
@Danthepest1 Bane in the comics was never an idiot. But Nolan doesn't stay accurate to the comics very much.
starkiller20293 8 months ago
@starkiller20293 What I meant was that aside from the comics, the animated series and the Arkham Asylum game, every other version of Bane I've seen was playing like a dumb muscle. Plus, you can never stay "accurate" when making a comic book movie because comics themselves never stay accurate withing themselves..
Danthepest1 8 months ago
@starkiller20293
What is your opinon on Scarecrow, Joker and Catwoman in the new movies?
Johnlindsey289 4 months ago
@Johnlindsey289 Scarecow. They amde a pathologically evil, twisted and demnted sociopath into a bitch boy in a suit ( seriously Nolan not EVERY villain in the comics wears a suit!). Joker, when did Joker ever have a knife like thata nd was obsessed with it? Also they spent too much time trying to amke him seem shockinga n evil and not as a legitimate crazy dude. They trie dtoo harda nd Catwoman. Anne Hathaway is hot but that suit...yeah...it sucks.
starkiller20293 4 months ago
@starkiller20293
What do you think of Batman the animated series and the animated movies including Under The Red Hood? Do you think Bane in the new movie will be an improvement over the simpleton from Batman and Robin?
Johnlindsey289 4 months ago
@Johnlindsey289 Of course he will be better than that ignorint simpleton
TheAustnod 3 months ago
SAD
Monkey90a 10 months ago
I don't get it, why don't batman just rob a weapons store and get the Gotham city cleared from criminals once and for all by shooting the suckers? Well just cause requires a just sacrifice... I have been lately a big fan of Scolar Viari, he knows how to handle things, not like that batman fuck...
cyberdaemon 11 months ago
This character explains atrue story that would happen in real. Painful case of a mankind was given up and being wrong, thrown to the king of birds and animals to be raised among them. He grown up on hate and isolation. Then we come to charge him more on his actions at last. Although his parents were a part of this. that's the way is in life. Who chosed his name or his looks b4 comin to the earth? no body .. then why him? guess he was asking such question every single moment and revenge up to it.
bothloveme 11 months ago
Oswald Cobblepot--bullshit. It's Frank Reynolds, motherfucker.
zinrgy 1 year ago 25
@zinrgy lmao,Best show ever.
SteamEqualsFAIL 1 year ago
@SteamEqualsFAIL Lol totally, dude.
zinrgy 1 year ago
@zinrgy Hahaha! XD
TheMykcal 2 weeks ago
@zinrgy look in the comics: oswald chesterfield cobblepot.
TheJamesmario 6 days ago
@TheJamesmario Riddle me this. Who is the person who thought he's comic genious and didn't get the other guy's joke and took it seriousely? Anwser is, YOU are.
DarthStarscream1138 3 days ago
I feel so sorry for him...
He´s just created different, he´s no monster!
FilmForceStudio 1 year ago
No offence but The Penguin is my FAVORITE villian of ALL time! i mean the Joker is good but the Penguin is dark and brutal.
Mittensshnookums 1 year ago
@Mittensshnookums Depends on which rendition. In here, he's great. But he's always been near my least fav. Batman villion because he's usually presented quite plain, a quirky genius but that's it.
I *love* the Joker because he tends to be portrayed in the way Nolan portrayed him - absolutely insane with complete wickedness he never truly understands is downright terrible.
Depends on the rendition; I quite like the Penguin here.
SBIMEZM86 1 year ago
@SBIMEZM86 I agree, DC comics took alot of stuff from burton's batman movies and made them cannon, i cannot see why they wanted to keep the boring gangster gentleman penguin over this one
TheYella20 1 year ago
@Nodrog666 I agree.
lennythew0lf 1 year ago
You gotta to pay the troll toll to get into the boy's hole. You gotta pay the troll toll to ge in!
GibsonSG4214 1 year ago
i lov this character
Danny De Vito's version of the penguin was the best.
DEADWIN13 1 year ago 30
@DEADWIN13 and voice...Nolan North
NewSuperAvenger 3 days ago
the penguin is scary!
paperMaster7 1 year ago
his make-up is awesome. howd he become the penguin? didnt his parents try to drown him?
BrOoKiIeBaBeH 1 year ago
@BrOoKiIeBaBeH Depends upon the version of the Penguin.
maskedstranger138 1 year ago
@BrOoKiIeBaBeH in the comics, he was only slightly ugly; while his parents still hated him, he used their money to found an organized criminal empire; "The Penguin" was just a nickname that stuck because of his penchant for always wearing tuxedos
in this movie, his deformities were so hideous that his parents tossed him into a river that emptied in the sewers; he's called "The Penguin" here because of his beak-like nose, and flipper-like hands
painlessissuicide 1 year ago
Because most Batman villains would blush at the amount of blood politicians have on their hands, whether that be in America, Britain, China, Russia or anywhere else.
AziMeX 2 years ago
@AziMeX
...and on YOUR hands, considering that YOU elect these politicians, right?
Just more of the usual brain-washed comments; I suggest you start thinking on your own.
Extraneus73 1 year ago
@Extraneus73 Actually no, the politicians I vote for never get elected. Another brain washed comment. I suggest you start thinking before you type.
AziMeX 1 year ago
@AziMeX Right, so the majority of people in the free world elect people that murder left and right? All, except you, of course...
Tell me, do you always have such trouble spotting sarcasm? My point was that you were wrong in your assessment of elected politicians; not that you actually vote for murderers... In other words, you're just another of the multitude of dimwits in this world, whose gut reaction to the word "politics" is 100% negative, despite a total lack of knowledge on the subject.
Extraneus73 1 year ago
@AziMeX
"the politicians I vote for never get elected"
LOL! believe you!!! :D
Extraneus73 1 year ago
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@AziMeX
@AziMeX
"the politicians I vote for never get elected"
LOL! I believe you!!! :D
Extraneus73 1 year ago
0:14 - 0:18 - Penguin's thinking "damn it... THIS is the best name my parents could give me??..." <:S
*lol*
Bobzeaux 2 years ago 5
oh at first i thought the video was going to cut him off
stalepieonceagain 2 years ago
Didn't he say: "My name is not Oswald! It's Penguin! I am not a human being! I am an animal. Cold-blooded!" Wierd. Hmm....
BrainiacKowalski 2 years ago
TRUE
akelo2k7 2 years ago
WHAAAAT?!
Mangatytt00 2 years ago
Could be worse..my nose could be gushing blood!
reniisgod 2 years ago
;)
lol, cobblepot and the scary factory?
Green2Griffin 2 years ago
Does anyone have the Global Warming comment he made?
FrozenSabre 2 years ago
He said: Stop Global Warming, Start Global Cooling!
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MayorCobblepot 2 years ago 2
Why do all Gothman's villains run for political power?
NightfallIV 2 years ago
hehe, why are all politicians villanous?
stalepieonceagain 2 years ago
A lot of villains do. Even Lex Luther.
I think it's because it's the "legal way" of gaining power.
Dmasterman 2 years ago 2
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disam73 2 years ago
this movie scared me when i was little...... and all because of that penguin man....
Stormfall 2 years ago 28
@Stormfall Then Dick Cheney must have terrified you.
gaara2910 5 months ago
LOOOOOOOOOOOL
Bally10x4 2 years ago
Gotta love his face before he says his name. All he can think is "crap.... I've been looking for my name my whole life, and THIS is the best my parents could do?? <:S" *lol*
Bobzeaux 2 years ago 59
hahahah that one was really good :D
Shinku0405 2 years ago
@Bobzeaux lollllllll
moh1612 11 months ago
@Bobzeaux thats funny but he did not look up his parents in the records he used it as an excuse to look up the first born sons of the city he already knew his parents and their is a subtle hint that he may of killed them
jazber14 6 months ago
Danny DeVito is wonderful as Penguin.
p1rp1 2 years ago 5
What does everything think of Joe Pesci as The Penguin in a mob boss role in the next Batman?
MystikWizard 3 years ago 2
I'd look forward to that! :D
S7r0ng3r 2 years ago
lol!
TESOblivion4 3 years ago
Imagine when they put the Penguin back in the Batman movies the role is taken on by Jack Black, I'm not just trying to be an idot either. I mean take this into consideration Jack Black=Short Fat Guy, Penguin=Fat Short guy and it would be nice to see Jack Black take on a serious role.
jesxe69 3 years ago
dude...just last week i mentioned that...holy crap. it would be awesome. jack black is due for a serious role and what not better than batman.
clintjohnson 3 years ago
i get what your saying but do you think Jack Black doesnt take every role seriously, hes a master of his craft and thats pretty serious but i would like to see him as the penguin as well.
dennythesavage 3 years ago
Danny did the penguin the best, but i'd love to see Jack Black as the penguin. it'd be so fun!
Athena455 3 years ago
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I'd love to stick my cock inside of my computer.
NoisecoreKing 3 years ago
ok, ur weird.
Athena455 3 years ago
Lol indeed
chewbaker 3 years ago
'jack black is due for a serious role and what not better than batman.'
Please re-read this and think about what you're saying. There are too many things wrong with this sentance.
KrisBrownLabour 3 years ago
yeah, The Holiday, The Cable Guy, The Jackal...those were serious Roles werent they.
dennythesavage 3 years ago
WTF How random and spam...
captain0ldy0da 3 years ago
No it wouldnt
amoungthefree 2 years ago
Jack Black ain't short? well, anyway. I don't think teh role would be suitable for him. Like people don't want anymore Jokers because Heath was just brilliant! I'm happy with Danny as the Penguin, and would want him to reprise his role as the man with teh shiny flippers.
captain0ldy0da 3 years ago
Well hes like 5'5 and that is short to me so yeah
jesxe69 3 years ago
ugh. I hate that.. thats ignorant thinking.. no more Joker? at all? thats extremely hindering on the creative process, not to mention it kills creative thought by not being allowed to fluxuate and allow an actor to change for a role like that.
also; Ledger was good: his role sucked. I did NOT like that Joker.
ThingxHulk 3 years ago 4
Agreed, although I DID like that Joker.
Joker's almost shakespearian, he's ABOVE any one actors portrayal of him
Beelzeboogie 2 years ago 3
Exactly. I hate that they're not doing another Joker because Ledger died. There's so many possiblities if they got another actor: Harley Quinn!! But I don't think many actors would want to touch that role especially after the huge impact and love for Ledger's Joker now.
IamKesyerSoze 2 years ago
Give it time, the wounds will heal and a new Joker will be born, hes like Chucky, he never goes away.
GuardianDragon777 2 years ago 4
but death is SUCH a bitch...
lol
SonicSnail95 2 years ago 3
Nice
GuardianDragon777 2 years ago
now so am i...
NightfallIV 2 years ago
plus, harley would NEVER work in nolan's dark, gritty, realistic version of batman. harley is there for comic relief. she's the joker's sidekick. harley, with her bubbly, over-the-top, and flat out cartoonish personality would work about as well as a short-shorts wearing robin...
SonicSnail95 2 years ago
Well yeah (I mentioned that in other batman videos). Its a pitfall of Nolan's realism. She would've worked great in Burton's version (which had a slight fantasy touch). I'm just happy their making batman movies again in general!
IamKesyerSoze 2 years ago
I want more Jokers. Joker is too much of a good character never to be used again.
SeanyZombie 2 years ago 5
i doubt he'd never be used again... just not in the nolan films.... its just too much of a risk replacing heath.... if they got an actor that was just SLIGHTLY off, the movie would be yet another action sequel that is sub-par to the first (or second in this case). i know that it'd still be good, but you cant settle with just good. the dark knight would have been good without heath, but WITH heath, that good movie becomes AMAZING
SonicSnail95 2 years ago
Yeah but dark knight wasnt written like joker was in the comics he was more of a crazy gangster in the dark night then a funny over the top killer like in BTAS
GuitarHeroBru 1 year ago
He did a great penguin
WarriorOfChrist777 3 years ago
You're not a Bat, and I'm not a Penguin
We're men
With names
WCarnation 3 years ago 4
My name is Oswald Copplepot, what's yours?
John Doe
Plain name
MSharingan 3 years ago
At first I really didn't like the Penguin, mainly because of the live action Batman show. After watching this movie, many years ago, he had become a favorite.
Also, if any comic book/ Batman fans hasn't read "Joker's Asylum: The Penguin" you should. It's great.
LilM0 3 years ago
really a rather touching line
fremenchips 3 years ago 3
John McCain?
geandily 3 years ago
idiot.....
Iran2freedom 3 years ago
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No, you're just a disgusting freak who used his childhood trauma as an excuse for killing a lot of innocent people...FUCK YOU Mr.Penguin, I'm glad you died, freak, and Batman was glad too...
JoeTyler85 3 years ago
With Heath Ledger's Joker, who represents pure chaotic evil, this sad and deformed Penguin is by far the best Batman villain ever appeared on the big screen. He has my total comprehension in this moment of revelation of his humanity.
pietroerperugino 3 years ago
Evil is how everyone sees him.
I see the other side of his personality.
as a merry man who knows how to live a happy life and get caught in the moment.
Like when he's driving the cop car, we see a relaxed Joker, letting the wind caress his face, I've never seen a Joker that happy in film, truly happy, not sarcastic-happy.
cambaprecoz 3 years ago 2
I feel sorry for the Penguin. He's not evil. He's just an outcast.
Nodrog666 3 years ago 52
@Nodrog666 An outcast who wanted to kill every first child in gotham city, but other than that tiny detail totally sympathetic. :3
Dalxien 1 year ago
@Nodrog666 That's not true... he is indeed an outcast, unlucky and deform and because all of this he became evil... but Quasimodo is the same as him and he did not plan a children massacre.
LordZaamus 1 year ago
@LordZaamus but quasimodo did have somebody raise him though.claude frollo took him in and raised him like a son.the penquin got none of that.
lionkingfan 10 months ago
@Nodrog666 I thought the same....Until I saw his plot near the end of the movie...
XdarkmarioX 1 year ago
@Nodrog666 He's kind of evil. Thats why he kills children.
ACDC392333 9 months ago 2
@ACDC392333 He hates the world, it's a very complicated character motivation,a mix between insane and alone and evil and wanting to be accepted, Nolan can't do that.
starkiller20293 8 months ago
The Penguin is by far the most evil and dark of batmans villans!
Demonoid2000 3 years ago 3
It will be The riddler and 2face in the next film
Penguin and catwoman in the 3'rd
Mr freeze and poison ivory in the fourth
RatedRKO119 3 years ago
duh 2face died.
kraigus 3 years ago
I actually forgot what the penguin has done in this movie... kill people? dun remember anything, except for danny devito and catwoman, lol
MangaPlCTURE 3 years ago
He was a guy who lived in the sewers, teamed up with a crook business guy to try to become mayor, and failed, causing him to take revenge by trying to kill gotham's children and after that failed, use his penguins to try to throw missiles all over the city. All his failures are of course caused by batman ;)
SpotxSpot 3 years ago
yeah, but at least they die quickly. The joker slowly kills people and enjoys it and treats it as a joke. He freaken cut his face up with a knife. That's sick. Hanging a cop from a building after cutting up his face and scaring him to death in front of Gotham, that's sick. The Penguin would stand no chance at all against the joker. He's just too smart.
DarthBronze 3 years ago
honestly, even tho the penguin is kind of a lame character. danny devito and tim burton portrayed the character fairly accurately
SocietalGrudge 3 years ago 4
there are two versions of this character though. i'd like to see the more human one played considering the mutant version was done pretty successfully. the maker of the dark knight would be interested in this more human version in particular i would bet... that is if penguin gets a spot in the new movie series that is
ScorpzDez 3 years ago
The more human version is the correct version (this Penguin is entirely of Burten's invention and seems to be sorely out of place in a Batman film). He is something like Blofeld from the Bond films, a chique, suave character who knows how to manipulate the criminal elements below him. Pretty interesting character really.
DChatc 3 years ago
Maybe Nolan should take a look at this Penguin and see what he can do with it, and make it inspiring as an outcasted rich guy or something.
Thomas4good 3 years ago
That's what the Penguin was in the comic anyways.
TwistedImp 3 years ago
I'd love to see Phillip Seymour Hoffman play this role in the next movie.
JayPetey 3 years ago
He didn't want to, because he thought the Penguin was too unrealistic.
Dmasterman 3 years ago
Well, there's two ways to portray him... one as a deformed monter, like Burton's Penguin, or as a high class aristocrat, much like the 1960's Penguin. Personally I would love it if the Penguin became the new mob kingpin, Since Batman caught the first kingpin in Batman Begins and Two Face and the Joker killed the three mob lords in the Dark Knight.
vampman87 3 years ago
Well most likely Nolan would've gone with a more realistic approach and not added the penguin like deformities. But even still, he said it was just too complicated and unrealistic and wasn't worth bothering for. He was dropped out of TDK, and that's that.
Dmasterman 3 years ago
The Riddler and the Penguin will be in the next movie.
1patti 3 years ago
No one knows what will be in the next movie. The plot, stories, characters, et al hasn't been written yet, I don't know where fans are getting all these radical ideas telling people what will be in the next movie, it's like they lose all concept of reality, lol.
thefloacist 3 years ago
No, Riddler and Catwoman will be in the next movie.
mksantiagomk 3 years ago
oh,
i saw somewhere that the penguin would probably be in it, and that Johnny depp would maby play the riddler and angelina jolie the catwoman, but im not sure.
1patti 3 years ago 2
Mmmm yes, Depp maybe be the riddler and Jolie Catwoman xD, penguin in the 3rd moovie? where did u heard that?
mksantiagomk 3 years ago
i was reading an icelandic paper, it was an article about that johnny depp would maby play the riddler and someone else the penguin, but i may have got it wrong xD
1patti 3 years ago
Oh, i hope the Pinguin appears in the new movie, did u get noticed that the name of the 3rd Movie of Batman will be ''Batman: Shadow of the Bat''
mksantiagomk 3 years ago
No i didnt know that, thats so cool!
oh i cant wait until it comes out.
1patti 3 years ago
Yes, I hope that the movie will be best than The Dark Knight, but it will be difficult because TDK is a perfect movie hahaha
mksantiagomk 3 years ago
Yeah! it will be difficult! xD but i know it will be great!
1patti 3 years ago
They could put all three of 'em in the next movie but that would probably be difficult.
norsketown 3 years ago
yeah prob. xD
1patti 3 years ago
i hate penguin hes the worst villain ever, joker ftw
Darklink7001 3 years ago
Correction. Worst villian ever is The Ventrilliquist
Shigureofthemist 3 years ago
No, worst villian ever is the Crazy Sobrerero
mksantiagomk 3 years ago
Can someone please post a video of batman fighting penguin in this movie
Darklighted1212 3 years ago 6
i thought that dude was bird style but never knew it was penguin instead
SORA5184 3 years ago
lmfaoooooooooooo
ch0clateskaterr 3 years ago
this is prob one of the best ones, the one with mr freeze n poisen ivy just ruined the whole series, but batman begins made up for it as will the dark knight .. cant wait !!
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sgtSqeegee119 3 years ago
superman sucks
hdtsdtg 3 years ago 18
THIS IS SO F-ING FUNNY!!!!
sgtSqeegee119 3 years ago
This scene is a perfect example of what makes Returns not just the best of the Batman films in my opinion, but quite possibly the finest comic book movie ever. As the Penguin confronts the throng of reporters, you really want his forgiveness to be sincere. But it isn't. He hates his parents, he hates the world, and he won't be satisfied until every human being is as miserable and lonely as he is. He plans to destroy Gotham even as he shamelessly plays on its pity. The Penguin's dark, man.
RevNoahWhateley 3 years ago 15
I wouldn't call it the best comic book movie ever, but it is in my opinion the best Batman movie. I am not a Tim Burton fan either, and to be frank the Penguin did not act that way in the comics... yet everything in this movie... it just clicks. Perfectly to me.
At least my nose isn't gushing blood.
Silvsilvchan 3 years ago
Part of what makes this the finest comic-based film, in my opinion, is that it functions well on a lot of levels. You can appreciate it as a hero-beats-up-villain flick, or if you so choose you can disssect the motives of a disgruntled secretary-terrorist and a vengeful sewer messiah. And it's immensely quotable, a trait missing from most other superhero films. All this, without the pretentiousness associated with the otherwise superb Sin City or Spider-Man's over-the-top silliness.
RevNoahWhateley 3 years ago 4
Best? Explain to me why Bruce Wanye had Bat-signal reflectors installed on Wayne Manor. Wouldn't someone notice those? The obvious flaw in logic and intelligence was just a sign of things to come. This movie was worse than Batman, and no where near "Finest comic book movie ever."
angeltosome 3 years ago
A Bat-signal PERIOD is a silly concept. If something like reflectors on Wayne Manor is enough to make you overlook the incredible character depth and rich dialogue in the film, comic book movies might not be the best movies for you. The first Batman was a fantastic movie, but the Joker, while a very entertaining character, was a little one-dimensional (which is suitable for a stirring melodrama, but Batman Returns is arguably a different kind of movie altogether).
RevNoahWhateley 3 years ago
Explain this. Why is that Batman pleaded with Catwoman to not kill Max Schreck? In Batman, he was the reason why the Joker was killed and 5 minutes before begging Catwoman, he cause the air conditioner to explode. Batman's a smart guy, so he MUST have known that the Penguin would die from that. Not only that, but he ripped off his mask in front of Schreck, a no good, dirty business man, who would ultimately use that against Batman. So Batman's ok with killing, as long as its him doing it.
angeltosome 3 years ago
It's true, Batman is directly responsible for the death of the Joker in the first film. Burton's Batman is a lot like Bob Kane's original Batman, where, like a police detective, he'll kill someone if they try to escape or pose a threat. Shreck was a bad guy, but he wasn't exactly a threat (to Batman's knowledge, anyway). Revealing his identity wasn't the best idea, but it was an emotional moment for him; he thought that perhaps unmasking would be a peace-making gesture.
RevNoahWhateley 3 years ago
@angeltosome batman was bad? if you dont like comic book movies, okay dont watch things associated with them, if you are a comic fan, you are asshole, and a little superman fanboy, dont come ruin our experience
spiderlolo100 10 months ago
Pleased to meet you, Mayor Cobblepot. ;-)
Danny DeVito, who would've thought he made the perfect Penguin? Brilliant acting! Ahh, seeing this rouses nostalgia.
DYBoulet2 3 years ago 7
This Batman is the best Batman that has ever been made.
MiniKano26 3 years ago 14