I really get sick and tired of having to defend professional wrestling to people who really don't get it at all.D'uh,you'd swear I didn't know that outcomes are predetermined!There's nothing fake about being on the road 300+ days a year and wearing down your body that's otherwise not designed for that toll.
Its funny how they pin it all on wrestling. How many serial killers were pro wrestlers? Edmund Kemper cut off his mothers head and used it as a dartboard. I dont recall him winning the AWA title from Nick Bockwinkle! Some people are just messed up in the head and thats all there is to it.
I see we have some "it's fake" assholes. It's not FAKE. It's FIXED. Being dropped through a table hurts like fuck. Getting dropped on their head can and has killed wrestlers and left them paralysed.
Getting dropped back first on wooden boards 30 times a night 5 nights a week for a decade WILL fuck your body up.
Okay that was dumb! they show Umaga n Cena from Last Man Standing match @ RR 2008 then they pan to Austin after taking the reverse tombstone @ Summerslam 1997.
nancy was the reason, ask mike graham. watch his shoot interview. woman, yeah right , evil was what she was, chris was the best guys, don't let anyone tell you different.
I remember when he won the WWE Heavyweight Title, I don't think anyone in the game had paid more dues or deserved it more than he did. Rest In Peace Chris, you were a huge part of my childhood.
Wrestling is live- every time they fall and hit the ground- it's real. Every time they take a chair to the head (which WWE doesn't even do anymore)- it's real. Many punches and kicks connect, too. How else would these guys break bones, tear muscles, and get concussed as often or more than pro athletes (there is no "off-season" after all)? And in many instances they keep performing- and then many drop dead short of 50. That's about as real as it gets. 'Fake' is not at all appropriate.
@GrassValleyGreg EXACTLY! If some people feel wrestling IS "fake," WHY WOULD or WHY DOES the WWE have a "warning" before the start of their DVDs-"YES, this IS "entertainment," but the HAZARDS ARE REAL. Enjoy the program, but, PLEASE, DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME!"
the biggest reason why people still say the old "wrestling is fake", is becase back in the days, the wrestling business tried to hide the fact that it was "fake". These days they are open about it and there are still people saying it's fake,...no shit! lol they themselves are saying it's predetermined. the only time they dont break character is in the ring, and i mean you never see christian bale removing his batman mask in the middle of the movie saying this is all fake, so why should they?
@DariushUFC1985 you know what i say when some says wrestling is fake? i say so are movies and tv somes but you still watch then right because its entertaining and then i show then a pic of randy savage gettin bit by jake roberts snake and ask them how fake that shit is
@thetoon99 i was not blaming Vince for Chris's death. but after you watch this full video then you will understand why i said what i said he tried to discredit the brain research of dead wrestlers like Chris cause he thinks it could harm his business this is just 1 reason why i said Vince McMahon = rich selfish asshole you got to watch the full video and see how Vince handled the whole matter
Pro Wrestling never claimed to be real. Learn your facts b4 you post on something you dont understand. Pro wrestler give up more for there passion then any othe sport.
@papaflex19 I can't watch wrestling now but when I was a kid, it was so addicting to watch! It was the plot lines that grabbed you. No different than tv shows or reality shows that hook people. Those aren't real but yet they still don't see it and call wrestling fake. hahaha
@theboyswhodrinkmilk Is it relevant to mention his most hardcore matches which would have led to this alleged 'brain damage'? Apparently not because this documentary really is just taking shots at WWE
@murbah Well, no big surprise, they just wanna focus on more important stuff, esp. the suicide/homicide story. They mention Stampede because of the Dynamite Kid since he has "roid rage". What a bunch of crock the news field is.
People need to learn the difference between "fake" and "fiction". Wrestling is fiction- but it is more real than anything you'll see on TV or in a movie. Fake is not at all an appropriate word to use.
Everything on TV is fake. Everything on the movie screen is fake. Everything on stage is fake. But for some reason the guys who use stunt doubles don't get any shit for it lol.
That might, MIGHT have been the case 50+ years ago, but hardly anymore dude- largely due to it OBVIOUSLY BEING SCRIPTED. People watch for what is, in fact, an athletic spectacle. It's just not a competition. And actually they refer to themselves as "Sports Entertainment" for that precise reason.
@GrassValleyGreg In my opinion, wrestling is "staged, STAGED, combat between good and evil." Some people think wrestling is "fake?" Well, what about the "slap-stick" in (the movie) Home Alone? Fake or real? The dinosaurs in Jurassic Park? Fake or real? "Fight scenes" in action/adventure movies and/or martial art movies? Fake or real?
Seriously- I haven't watched wrestlng much since the WWF days- but these guys get seriously battered in that ring. Nothing "fake" can beat you up that bad lol.
People are such smartasses. Often when someone finds out I like wrestling, they either say, "Is it fake?" or "Don't you know it's fake?" I say, "Yes. So is your personality."
Wrestling is not completely fake. The pain the wrestlers endure and the deaths because of their substance abuse due to the business are real. But the storyline and outcomes are fake.
@Bruiser I understand people get hurt in this line of work but i meant in terms of the finishes and delivery.I also know Vince used the Entertainment aspect to dodge the athletic commission and avoid tax even though by technicality he shouldnt have a legal leg to stand on.He probably used a legal loophole to get away with that one.Vince is a very smart guy and hell do anything to turn a profit without spending too much even though he willingly waists millions yearly on fireworks for his shows.
That was an obviouse move if you think about it.If Vince had not have gone for the Sports Entertainment thing then people would have seen through it anyway.Come on everyone knows its fake.Vince was ahead of the curve so to speak.
@suckyamomma30 Most people think its fake but its not. And its also well documented that sports entertainment originally meant that celebs and people from the world of entertainment would be part of the WWE events from time to time. it had nothing to do with the wrestling. Also Vince told the public it was fake to avoid the athletic commission and to avoid paying taxes. To this day WWE doesn't have employees, they have indy contractors. Vince just did it to save his ass financially.
im ready to do enything to pro wrestle even if it means dieing at 50
ipwneveryone100 10 hours ago
Wow, they skipped over SO many details about Benoits career...
OriginalMishima 2 weeks ago
was ricky steamboat ever on steroids?
rohisking1601 3 weeks ago
I really get sick and tired of having to defend professional wrestling to people who really don't get it at all.D'uh,you'd swear I didn't know that outcomes are predetermined!There's nothing fake about being on the road 300+ days a year and wearing down your body that's otherwise not designed for that toll.
landrykkb 3 weeks ago
Its funny how they pin it all on wrestling. How many serial killers were pro wrestlers? Edmund Kemper cut off his mothers head and used it as a dartboard. I dont recall him winning the AWA title from Nick Bockwinkle! Some people are just messed up in the head and thats all there is to it.
cspara 1 month ago 2
Tell the stuntmen and women in movies that what they do is fake and see how they like it.
Silks 1 month ago
I see we have some "it's fake" assholes. It's not FAKE. It's FIXED. Being dropped through a table hurts like fuck. Getting dropped on their head can and has killed wrestlers and left them paralysed.
Getting dropped back first on wooden boards 30 times a night 5 nights a week for a decade WILL fuck your body up.
DrJReefer 1 month ago
@DrJReefer Have u ever seen the many matches of Mike Awesome vs Masato Tanaka. I am a jap myself and I am thinking Tanaka has a head of steel.
kgp8 1 month ago
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@DrJReefer
Pain doesn't stop something being fake.
MKShaggy1985 2 days ago
I was going to fall embarrassingly far behind on my child support payments like Jake Roberts but then I took an arrow to the knee
petertaboni 1 month ago
I hate the way the reporter says "WORLD WRESTLING"
Idolfan21785 1 month ago
Kinda dumb how they show a bunch of current-day guys with chairs and tables and act like that's what the Bulldogs were doing back in the mid-'80s.
Funny how the media's coverage of wrestling always ends up being way more 'fake' than anything that goes on in the business itself.
Suriel1981 1 month ago 2
Okay that was dumb! they show Umaga n Cena from Last Man Standing match @ RR 2008 then they pan to Austin after taking the reverse tombstone @ Summerslam 1997.
Necrocide187 2 months ago
Most of this footage is from Wrestling With Shadows,not complainin wish they had access to other parts of Benoit's career.
Necrocide187 2 months ago
Its disgusting how they blamed Vince
blumpkin757 2 months ago
LMAO......Jake.....come on man. Be easy. Damn. Wow. Jake "The Snake" Roberts.......he's that dude when it comes to the docs and the shoot interviews.
lildwayne21 2 months ago
Jake has a skillet now.
MalikSucksAss 2 months ago
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desecrator1000 2 months ago
@MrCatfightlover2 u mad bro?
NewWaveFan1 2 months ago
stunts arent fake but the matches are pre determined and the punches and punches and kicks were not real
royalnaz1 2 months ago
jake roberts top 10 of all time
royalnaz1 2 months ago
nancy was the reason, ask mike graham. watch his shoot interview. woman, yeah right , evil was what she was, chris was the best guys, don't let anyone tell you different.
bluegrassman776 2 months ago
I remember when he won the WWE Heavyweight Title, I don't think anyone in the game had paid more dues or deserved it more than he did. Rest In Peace Chris, you were a huge part of my childhood.
StoneDeafBand 2 months ago
Wrestling is live- every time they fall and hit the ground- it's real. Every time they take a chair to the head (which WWE doesn't even do anymore)- it's real. Many punches and kicks connect, too. How else would these guys break bones, tear muscles, and get concussed as often or more than pro athletes (there is no "off-season" after all)? And in many instances they keep performing- and then many drop dead short of 50. That's about as real as it gets. 'Fake' is not at all appropriate.
GrassValleyGreg 3 months ago 6
@GrassValleyGreg EXACTLY! If some people feel wrestling IS "fake," WHY WOULD or WHY DOES the WWE have a "warning" before the start of their DVDs-"YES, this IS "entertainment," but the HAZARDS ARE REAL. Enjoy the program, but, PLEASE, DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME!"
AngelofAnguish 3 months ago
Phil Mushnick is a dweeb.
beeshnook 3 months ago
Very interesting, but shouldn't have skipped wcw time with benoit
armyman82070 3 months ago
Meanwhile they meanthing nothing about his "mentor" The Dynamite Kid being a wrecked cripple and admitted user of steroids.
LarsWS 4 months ago 2
the biggest reason why people still say the old "wrestling is fake", is becase back in the days, the wrestling business tried to hide the fact that it was "fake". These days they are open about it and there are still people saying it's fake,...no shit! lol they themselves are saying it's predetermined. the only time they dont break character is in the ring, and i mean you never see christian bale removing his batman mask in the middle of the movie saying this is all fake, so why should they?
DariushUFC1985 4 months ago 19
@DariushUFC1985 IT'S NOT FAKE GUYS GET REALLY SLAPPED AND MANY OF THE MOVES HURT THE WRESTLERS, IT'S PREDETERMINED WINNERS NOT FAKE!
oldschool6804 3 months ago
@oldschool6804 yea...that's what i said pal
DariushUFC1985 3 months ago
@DariushUFC1985 funny how they tried to hide it back then but it looked so fake compared to the last 10-15 years
IASP17 1 month ago
@DariushUFC1985 you know what i say when some says wrestling is fake? i say so are movies and tv somes but you still watch then right because its entertaining and then i show then a pic of randy savage gettin bit by jake roberts snake and ask them how fake that shit is
hardcorebob19 2 weeks ago
Jake looks better than he has in a long time, I hope he stays sober
MJFelder34 5 months ago
Mmmm, look at all that hot ass and cock meat.
GohModley 5 months ago
umaga rip eddy rip cenas self respect rip
mafiahitmen100 5 months ago
Even in interviews Jake "The Snake" Roberts makes them look like one hell of a wrestling promo...
joelburgos69 5 months ago
Vince McMahon = rich selfish asshole i don't care what anyone said...
CrazyFavVideos 5 months ago
@CrazyFavVideos why blame vince for what chris did its easy to blame him i guess but its wrong
thetoon99 5 months ago
@thetoon99 i was not blaming Vince for Chris's death. but after you watch this full video then you will understand why i said what i said he tried to discredit the brain research of dead wrestlers like Chris cause he thinks it could harm his business this is just 1 reason why i said Vince McMahon = rich selfish asshole you got to watch the full video and see how Vince handled the whole matter
CrazyFavVideos 5 months ago
The criminal immigrant beaner wetback known as mysterio, is a foul, smelly, crap-in-the-pants piece of garbage.
unclebobpart2 5 months ago
R.I.P. Ted Bundy,Ed Gein and Chris Benoit.
144church 6 months ago
coward
SteveTwoTheO 6 months ago
Pro Wrestling never claimed to be real. Learn your facts b4 you post on something you dont understand. Pro wrestler give up more for there passion then any othe sport.
papaflex19 6 months ago
@papaflex19 I can't watch wrestling now but when I was a kid, it was so addicting to watch! It was the plot lines that grabbed you. No different than tv shows or reality shows that hook people. Those aren't real but yet they still don't see it and call wrestling fake. hahaha
kwb18 6 months ago
thats r-truth at 2:54
akuma4u 6 months ago
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Am i the only guy here thats pissed off they barely if at all mention his ECW and WCW career?
murbah 6 months ago
Am i the only guy here thats pissed off they don't mention his ECW and WCW career?
murbah 6 months ago 92
@murbah Probably
mangamegs 5 months ago
@murbah Yeah WTF? I first Saw benoit,Guerro,Jericho Melinko, & Misterio JR in WCW & their the ones who kept me watching
MeThinks995 5 months ago
@murbah I AM 2
trisgilmour 3 months ago
@murbah watch a chris benoit film documenting his career if you want to see that. it's hardly relevant to his double murder - suicide, is it.
theboyswhodrinkmilk 2 months ago
@theboyswhodrinkmilk Is it relevant to mention his most hardcore matches which would have led to this alleged 'brain damage'? Apparently not because this documentary really is just taking shots at WWE
Xboxjosh95 1 month ago
@murbah
No, apparently there's 67 other fucking jackasses upset about that silly little triviality.
jackiedegracia 1 month ago
@murbah vince takes the brunt of the criticism every time it seems
JoeyPencils 1 month ago
@JoeyPencils yeh its a real shame to :/
murbah 1 month ago
@murbah Well, no big surprise, they just wanna focus on more important stuff, esp. the suicide/homicide story. They mention Stampede because of the Dynamite Kid since he has "roid rage". What a bunch of crock the news field is.
kgp8 1 month ago
People need to learn the difference between "fake" and "fiction". Wrestling is fiction- but it is more real than anything you'll see on TV or in a movie. Fake is not at all an appropriate word to use.
GrassValleyGreg 7 months ago
@GrassValleyGreg WRESTLING ISN'T FICTION IT IS NOT ALL MADE UP PARTS OF IT ARE REAL GUYS REALLY GET HIT, AND HURT VERY BADLY!
oldschool6804 3 months ago
@oldschool6804
No shit- I'm the one arguing it's NOT fake lol- read the whole conversation before you butt in....
GrassValleyGreg 3 months ago
@GrassValleyGreg I sure wouldn't call getting chokeslammed by the Undertaker or Big Show fake,that's for sure.
landrykkb 3 weeks ago
Thank you for uploading this. Very interesting to watch.
GigglinMarley 10 months ago
Everything on TV is fake. Everything on the movie screen is fake. Everything on stage is fake. But for some reason the guys who use stunt doubles don't get any shit for it lol.
GrassValleyGreg 10 months ago 42
@GrassValleyGreg
A-men
SolidMike84 7 months ago
@GrassValleyGreg That is a great way to put it! I don't agree with stage though as I play music and whats fake in that?
scumgod13 7 months ago
@scumgod13
Ok. Concerts excluded ;)
GrassValleyGreg 7 months ago
@GrassValleyGreg They don't try to pass it off as real...
NationalLibertarian 3 months ago
@NationalLibertarian
In what sense is wrestling more guilty of that than anyone else?
GrassValleyGreg 3 months ago
@GrassValleyGreg Everyone knows movies tv aren't real. Pro Wrestling passes itself off as a sport when it's not.
NationalLibertarian 3 months ago
@NationalLibertarian
That might, MIGHT have been the case 50+ years ago, but hardly anymore dude- largely due to it OBVIOUSLY BEING SCRIPTED. People watch for what is, in fact, an athletic spectacle. It's just not a competition. And actually they refer to themselves as "Sports Entertainment" for that precise reason.
GrassValleyGreg 3 months ago
@GrassValleyGreg So you agree that it's fake then. Fake as.
NationalLibertarian 3 months ago
@NationalLibertarian
No- it's scripted. It's not "fake" in any sense. They are very real stunts.
GrassValleyGreg 3 months ago
@GrassValleyGreg IT'S NOT FAKE THEY REALLY DO HIT EACH OTHER MOST TIMES IT'S PLANNED!
oldschool6804 3 months ago
@GrassValleyGreg In my opinion, wrestling is "staged, STAGED, combat between good and evil." Some people think wrestling is "fake?" Well, what about the "slap-stick" in (the movie) Home Alone? Fake or real? The dinosaurs in Jurassic Park? Fake or real? "Fight scenes" in action/adventure movies and/or martial art movies? Fake or real?
AngelofAnguish 3 months ago
@AngelofAnguish
Yes, staged or scripted is right. Fake- absolutely not.
GrassValleyGreg 3 months ago
@GrassValleyGreg Wrestling matches became scripted at the beginning of the 20th century
filthiestfish 3 months ago
@filthiestfish
Um... Okay?
GrassValleyGreg 3 months ago
@GrassValleyGreg Going with what you said, Everything on the News is fake
ZodiacBryan 2 months ago
@ZodiacBryan
Well, I guess I felt some exceptions were obvious... My point remains solid.
GrassValleyGreg 2 months ago
@GrassValleyGreg they're just saying it's not a legit sport
Nestorballer34 1 month ago
@Nestorballer34
Well, "They're" wording it very poorly.
GrassValleyGreg 1 month ago
@GrassValleyGreg News is real, except the ppl who work in the news field. But I get your point. Stupid anti-wrestling critics. :(
kgp8 1 month ago
@kgp8
Seriously- I haven't watched wrestlng much since the WWF days- but these guys get seriously battered in that ring. Nothing "fake" can beat you up that bad lol.
GrassValleyGreg 1 month ago
@GrassValleyGreg And I even try to explain that about movies to those who diss wrestling,but you might as well talk to the wall.
landrykkb 3 weeks ago
2:55 A young R-Truth?
JrWombat 1 year ago
People are such smartasses. Often when someone finds out I like wrestling, they either say, "Is it fake?" or "Don't you know it's fake?" I say, "Yes. So is your personality."
spinemelter2000 1 year ago
Wrestling is not completely fake. The pain the wrestlers endure and the deaths because of their substance abuse due to the business are real. But the storyline and outcomes are fake.
Cyclonus84 1 year ago 4
@Bruiser I understand people get hurt in this line of work but i meant in terms of the finishes and delivery.I also know Vince used the Entertainment aspect to dodge the athletic commission and avoid tax even though by technicality he shouldnt have a legal leg to stand on.He probably used a legal loophole to get away with that one.Vince is a very smart guy and hell do anything to turn a profit without spending too much even though he willingly waists millions yearly on fireworks for his shows.
Pulpedtoafiction31 1 year ago
That was an obviouse move if you think about it.If Vince had not have gone for the Sports Entertainment thing then people would have seen through it anyway.Come on everyone knows its fake.Vince was ahead of the curve so to speak.
suckyamomma30 2 years ago
@suckyamomma30 Most people think its fake but its not. And its also well documented that sports entertainment originally meant that celebs and people from the world of entertainment would be part of the WWE events from time to time. it had nothing to do with the wrestling. Also Vince told the public it was fake to avoid the athletic commission and to avoid paying taxes. To this day WWE doesn't have employees, they have indy contractors. Vince just did it to save his ass financially.
BruiserDrop 1 year ago