so if my mom was a murderer that would make me a murderer and deserve jail?
if my father was a child molester that would make me a child molester and deserve jail? if my "ancestor" deserve hell then i do it as well?..... and later people say that god is moral? c'mon!!
so if my mom was a murderer that would make me a murderer and deserve jail
if my father was a child molester that would make me a murderer and deserve jail? if my "ancestor" deserve hell then i do it as well?..... and later people say that god is moral? c'mon!!
you are an athiest you "believe" that there is no God I "believe" that there is a God the key word is "believe" they both require faith buddy. You just believe in the begining nuthing created the heavens and the earth and I believe in the Begining God Created the heaven and the earth.
the point was to make abarham show his faith that he believed that God would raise him from the dead and Abarham had faith that God would provide "himself" a sacrifice and thats what he did with the ram and how do you even judge right or wrong if theres no God than there is no such thing as morals as right or wrong if there is no judge than the laws of morality are subject to the individual.
Acts 16:30 And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?
Acts 16:31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.
its ez to go to heaven all you gotta do is place your faith in that Jesus paid for your sins and hes the one saveing you from hell it Just that simple and people are trying to make it all hard but its not well its up to you i hope you take the step of faith.
Romans 4:4 Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. Romans 4:5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
its not a riligion its not a church its not even being good that will save you from hell its only Jesus put your faith in im to pay for your sins and he will. past present and futrue. its really that ez not of this being some type of nun or preast you just have to believe
@moedizzl3 There is no hell, and all your quoting will never convince me there is nor frighten me in the least. When you die you are just dead, there is nothing after death.
Stop living for the next life and enjoy this one, it's the only one you have.
@NoFearOfGod i do enjoy this life to the fullest my point was not to frighten you in anyway... me i live my life free of fear i do not fear any man or even death... and you could to all you gotta do is 1: admit you are a sinner( im a sinner just like you no one is perfect we have all lied stolen something etc)...
@NoFearOfGod 2: beacuse of your sin one day your gonna die and should end in hell believe it or not.(remember everyone is a sinner and everyone should go to hell) 3: Romans 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us that in while we were yet sinners Christ died for us. John 3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that who so ever believeth in him should not perish but have everlasting life.
@NoFearOfGod John 3:18 ''He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.'' What does the bible say it Just saids believe thats all it doesnt say go to church never drink again stop clubing etc... now if you do do that thats a good thing and God wants you to do that out of your own free will out of love he doesnt force you to do anything but believe that Jesus died for your sins
@NoFearOfGod its a free gift that all you gotta do is accept it and its ez to accept you dont have to Join a Church group you dont need a man to help you do it all you gotta do is call upon the name of the Lord and you SHALL be Saved. Just pray to Jesus that He saves you from hell that his death covers all your sins past present and futrue and he will do it.
@NoFearOfGod i Just want to leave you with this last thought. What was so speical about Jesus there have been many great men throughout time but none like Jesus why did time stop with his brith its like time counted down to his brith and time started over when he died BC. counting down and AD counting up if he was Just another man why did time stop?
@moedizzl3@moedizzl3 The Gregorian calender has only been used since 1582. It was introduced by Pope Gregory XIII. It is not the only calender in the world. If we go by written word, we have been doing that for around 8000 years, but non language communication has been around for much longer. The aboriginal culture goes back some 40,000 years. Music, art, stories: no alphabet, but a culture none the less. We are getting gyped out of eons of history due to a pope. Time did not stop for jesus.
@NoFearOfGod actually that pope just revisied the Julian Calender which was around 45 BC The Julian calendar remained in use into the 20th century in some countries as a civil calendar, but has been replaced by the Gregorian calendar in nearly all countries.
@NoFearOfGod The more modern Gregorian calendar eventually superseded the Julian calendar: the reason is that a tropical year (or solar year), which determines the cycle of seasons, is actually about 11 minutes shorter than 365.25 days. These extra 11 minutes per year in the Julian calendar caused it to gain about three days every four centuries, when compared to the observed equinox times and the seasons.
@NoFearOfGod In the Gregorian calendar system, first proposed in the 16th century, this problem was dealt with by dropping some calendar days, in order to realign the calendar and the equinox times. Subsequently, the Gregorian calendar drops three leap year days across every four centuries.
@NoFearOfGod look man i dont want this to turn into some history class my point was that if theres a person in time that made such an up roar i think thats the kinda person that is worth the second look see what hes really about. i cant force you and God wont force you its a choice we each have to make go by what everyone drills into us or check it out for our selves its up to u bro be safe...
@moedizzl3 My point is this, your logic is flawed. Jesus had nothing to do with the calendar. He isn't important. It's a manmade construct. He wasn't so important that we reset the calendar for him. Some stupid pope did it about 500 years ago, 1500 years after he supposedly lived. You brought it up.
Humanity deserves more credit for our long struggle. God had nothing to do with it. He is not real. He did not help. Telling people they will go to hell does not help. Dont be afraid of hell.
@NoFearOfGod my point was that Jesus was someone speical in history if you believe in God or not his impact through out history is amazing. let me Quote something to you and you tell me who this is talking about "He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not. Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.
@NoFearOfGod But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all."
@NoFearOfGod lol nah its talking about Jesus and how he died and for the reason he died whats crazy is that this was written in the Old Testament in Isaiah 53 about 700+ years before Jesus was even born.
@NoFearOfGod you said supposedly lived these are some Early Secular Historians Writings Regarding Christ
TACITUS: (55-117) A.D.) Cornelius Tactitus is regarded as the greatest historian of ancient Rome. Writing on the reign of Nero, Tacitus alludes to the death of Christ and to the existence of Christians in Rome.
“Consequently, to get rid of the report, Nero fastened the guilt and inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their abominations, called
@NoFearOfGod Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of on of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judea, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome, where all things hideous and shameful from every part of the word find their center and become popular.”
@NoFearOfGod LETTER OF MARA BARSARAPION: (73 A.D.)
Mara Bar-Serapion was a Syrian who lived in the first century A.D. He wrote a letter to his son Serapion that mentions the Jews who killed their King. The letter is now in the possession of the British Museum.
“What benefit did the Athenians obtain by putting Socrates to death?
@NoFearOfGod Famine and plague came upon them as judgment for their crime. Or, the people of Samos for burning Pythagoras? In one moment their country was covered with sand. Or the Jews by murdering their wise king?…After that their kingdom was abolished. God rightly avenged these men…The wise king…Lived on in the teachings he enacted.”
A secular historian wrote a history named, “Chronicles.” This original work has been lost, Julius Africanus preserved a small fragment in his writings. Phlegon mentions the eclipse (Matthew 27:45) during the crucifixion of Jesus.
“During the time of Tiberius Caesar an eclipse of the sun occurred during the full moon.”
Africanus, Chronography, 18:1.
have you ever heard of Tiberius Caesar three historians wrote about him the same three historians wrote about
Jesus plus another 12 non Christian Historians more Historians Wrote about Jesus Than Tiberius Caesar but people will Deny that Jesus Was an actual historical figure. its Kinda funny dont you think?
look im 100% against religion religion was man made the bible does not mention anything about religion except in matthew 23 whe Jesus is railing on the religious people of his day calling them hypocrites. Jesus was the most anti-religion person on earth he came to do one thing and that is to save that which was lost he didnt say go to a church he didnt say become this or become that...
this is what the bible said thats all you have to do to Go to heaven Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Romans 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
its your choice you could settle it right now and really start living your life free of fear cause death wont be something to worry about.
hey if im wrong what does it even matter if theres no heaven no hell and i live my life happy following Jesus and at the end theres nothing than what have i really lost nothing i live a good happy life. but if im right and there is an after life think about that who is really risking more? its been cool talking to you be safe bro God Bless.
Well seeing the odds are against you, seeing the thousands of gods ever documented, and putting your ALL your eggs into one basket, you are more at risk than anyone. Especially, when you have gone on NO evidence to support it.
@devante11 if i put a gun to your face what would your last words be? you would probably beg for your life but for me to live is Christ and to die is gain i dont fear anything cause im sure of where im going when i die. and are you sure theres no evidence? nlet me show you some...
@moedizzl3 they new the earth was round 2000+ years before it was discoverd to to be round. Isaiah 40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the "circle of the earth", and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:
@moedizzl3 The knowledge of ocean currents goes back thousands of years. Aristotle and Socrates wrote about the cause of ocean currents and early sailors used the currents to their advantage. but Aristotle lived 384 BC – 322 BC but the bible new about these same paths Psalms 8:8 The fowl of the air, and the fish of the sea, and whatsoever passeth through the paths of the seas.
psalms were written by King David who lived from about 1037BC - 967 BC.
@devante11 they knew that there was a center of the earth way before Isaac Newton and on top of that they new that there was a lake of flowing fire "lava" but thats all old science how a bout something new and something you could be one 100% sure about.
@devante11 how about this The 8.9-magnitude earthquake in Japan shortened Earth's day by 1.8 millionths of a second. and the bible is Right once again Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.
@devante11 Romans 1:19-20 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
the evidence is right infront of your eyes your just chosen not to look at it.
@devante11 Romans 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; God will not force you if you want it your way you can Have it you but if you really want to no the truth search for it im not trying to get you to join a church im not telling anything like that just take a step of faith and search for the truth.
@moedizzl3 i read one of your other comment about God premoting human Sacrifice and he didnt he Just had faith that God Could raise his only son from the dead and when Abarham said God will provide "himself" a Sacrifice he was puting his faith in Jesus he mite have not know his name at the time but thats who it was if you notice what he did sacrifice that day was a it wasnt his son it was a spotless ram who head was stuck in a thorns bush.
kinda like Jesus was Gods only son kinda like his head was scared with a crown of thorns. its was all a symbol of his faith in Jesus takeing his place. thats what we all have to do. we have to put our faith in Jesus that he took our spot just like the ram took abarhams son spot
"i dont fear anything cause im sure of where im going when i die"------>>nope you are not sure of anything, but have fooled yourself you do
truth is not a belief. its a confirmation of fact!!! facts are proven with evidence. they can be tested, defended, verified, analyzed, debated and shown to be correct.
faith leads the blind over the edge of the cliff. TRUTH stops them from jumping
What a suprise, just the same crap all you christians say, oh evidence lets see, well back to the book im shackled to what does it say
Funny thing, is your book will never be evidence---->infact your book says the earth cannot be moved, which is infact false to start of with, each earthquake puts the earth off its axis
What you go by is faith, which is absent of evidence
"i dont fear anything cause im sure of where im going when i die"------>>nope you are not sure of anything, but have fooled yourself you do
truth is not a belief. its a confirmation of fact!!! facts are proven with evidence. they can be tested, defended, verified, analyzed, debated and shown to be correct.
faith leads the blind over the edge of the cliff. TRUTH stops them from jumping
"i dont fear anything cause im sure of where im going when i die"------>>nope you are not sure of anything, but have fooled yourself you do
truth is not a belief. its a confirmation of fact!!! facts are proven with evidence. they can be tested, defended, verified, analyzed, debated and shown to be correct.
faith leads the blind over the edge of the cliff. TRUTH stops them from jumping
@devante11 the truth is that you do believe in God by your own addmition you believe in God "is imperfect, and should be ignored." you Just feel he should be ignored. if your ignoring something its because it there to be ignored Romans 1:21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
The truth is what you are following is a IMMORAL man made book<<<-------I guess you didnt read that part of my post shall I quote myself again so you can acknowledge it
Furthermore, jesus calls his father good<<<<<<<<<<and thus supporting a immoral action of engaging in immoral behavior by his father by commanding Abraham to kill his son ...thus jesus should be ignored in the same manner as a immoral being you call your god
you dont want proof you just want to bash God just cause you dont like him... its that simple you dont like God. you want to be your own God but hey maybe thats a good thing cause your just an imperfect being and according to you imperfect beings should be ignored. so ignor yourself...
But seeing you believe in this book as somekind of god, I was referring to YOU can ignore it as I said before as imperfect man made book that is IMMORAL, as no perfect being NEEDS you to do anything, as it has no needs, something that needs is imperfect. Something that involves itself in immoral acts such as commanding you to kill a child, is indeed not only imperfect, but evil beyond words :)
@devante11 look it wasnt immoral it was God trying to show Abarham how hard it is for a father to kill his Child and how He would one day have to sacrifice his own Child to save millions what is more moral than that. think of it like this your a train station conductor one day you bring your kid to work he get stuck on the tracks there is a train with hundreds of people on it you can do 1 of to things 1 flip the switch and save your son or 2 you can sacrifice the life of your son tosave Hundreds
LOL LOL LOL, its attempted murder. Your god told Abraham to murder his son, thats a immoral thought and then a immoral action, by telling Abraham to murder his son LOL. Your all for attempted murder LOL LOL WTF???????? Abraham tied his son up AGAINST his will and put a knife to his throat LOL are you that deluded LOL LOL
@devante11 your missing the point... it was a picture of Jesus abarham was going to kill his son but God offered the ram that was found with his head stuck in the bush of throns as the replacement for his son it was a picture if Jesus Abarham never killed his son did he and he and his son killed the ram in his place as a picture of Jesus dying for us that was the hole point. if i only watch the first five mins of a movie can i say i know exsactly what that movie is about?
@devante11 no you cant you have to watch the whole thing to fully understand it and sometimes you gotta watch it twice. look theres really nothing else i can say to you Just open up a King James Bible and read it even if its just to prove the bible wrong study how nature acts and follow the proof where it leads you.... be safe bro its been cool talking to you but were not really geting anywhere so have a good day...
@devante11 thank you :-) Matthew 5:11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
@devante11 what is more moral the life of hundreds for one or the life of one for hundreds thats true moral when white and black meet grey and you still do the greater good. that what Jesus did for the world we where all on that train and Jesus was on the track God saw it fit to kill one to save millions.
"the bible was written by man about as much as this comment was written by my keyboard."
Your right, you wrote it your comment and ignorant men wrote your book. To the point rape victims were sold off to their attacker, for a lifetime of more rape and fear, LOL
all you gotta do is accept the free gift of his son... John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Any christian who supports this god or jesus, is also involved in a immoral act, by supporting immoral behavior and should also be ignored as retarded, and the police should be called for any christian who supports these immoral acts
"the bible was written by man about as much as this comment was written by my keyboard."
Any christian who supports this god or jesus, is also involved in a immoral act, by supporting immoral behavior and should also be ignored as retarded, and the police should be called for any christian who supports these immoral acts
"the bible was written by man about as much as this comment was written by my keyboard."
@devante11 something that needs is imperfect? no need are made up by a means to acomplish a goal God's goal was to save the world so there he NEEDED to devise a plan to save people from hell because he is perfect and sin has to be punished so he had the NEED to creat a why for him to Justify the imperfections of man and that Came thru the sacrific of Jesus how is it that you dont see this logic
@devante11 Romans 5:17 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)
DUH, perfect beings/creators, have NO need to correct things, AND HAVE NO NEEDS TO CORRECT ANYTHING --------->>>>>>>> if perfect....perfect does not beget imperfect
Fuck me
1. You think from perfection, comes imperfection
2. You think attempted murder is moral
3. Get help your a immoral and very mentally ill PERSON
@devante11 who said he was correcting himself he made man with a free will so we can choose him or not its not be cause of him but because we have a free will God could have made us all robots but how can a God that loves love a Robot its imposible. love is an action that is done out of the free will would you want to tie the person you love up and force them to love you? no you wouldnt be happy and she wouldnt be happy if God didnt give us a choice to reject him than he would be forceing us.
Duh, if you are from a perfect being/creator, you would be perfect also. Even with ALL the freewill in the world, ALL your choices would be a default perfect choice and you would have perfect judgement---->>the product (man)-----is only as good the source (your god) ....if the product is imperfect so is the source
@devante11 we do have the ablity to do right but you are able to do wrong because you understand that there is a diffrence. and is the product "Just as good as the source" you take a huge stinky crap does that mean that its Just as clean as the food you put in your mouth... a rotting tree is Just as good as a seed? a beautiful island is Just as good as a valcano? thats stupid thinking.
DUH, your god is perfect (the source)----->>>the product (man)----->>it produces can only be perfect to ....it cant deviate....imperfection can only happen if the source (your god) is imperfect
Wrong cant happen if your god is perfect
The reason we have differing morals is because ALL morals are made by man and differ from culture to culture and change over time
@devante11 how do you believe in morals you cant see them touch them or feel them? how do you explain your view of right and wrong? if theres nothing thats 100% moral in nature how do you Judge whats moral? if you got your ideas of morals from man how can you trust them?
@devante11 once again the bible was not man made it was physically written by 40+ men that lived 100 even thousands of years apart yet it meshes together as if one person wrote it because it does have one writter and that is God! so whats right for you is not be right to me but we are can both be right? thats what you believe?
THUS ONE PERSON DID NOT WRITE IT LOL LOL STOP BEING DELUDED YOUR FOOLING YOURSELF
The reason we dont force rape VICTIMS to marry their attacker with no say in the matter and sold for a few shekels like slaves for a lifetime of more rape and fear from their attacker, with no way of the divorcing>The reason we do not do this as it is HIGHLY IMMORAL--->
@devante11 i never said one person wrote it i said it flows as if it had one writter cause its inspiered by one and that is God.
how can you say that something is highly immoral if there is no standard of morality? according to you morals depend on the country... o and there are countries that do that and it is highly immoral yes but it is the norm China is one of them. but they kill the baby...
@devante11 if thats true and morals are all from man depending on the country how can you say that Abarhams actions were imoral? or that Gods actions are imoral how can you come to that concution if you said that its all subject to the country.
@devante11 if you believe this "Morals are from man ...as man makes ALL laws, thats why morals differ from country to country" How can you Judge what is moral or imoral. that is my simple point Whats is imoral for you might be moral for someone else according to you. how can you say that that is imoral if morals are subject to country.
@devante11 but you cant from your world view every thing is subjective there is no absolute truth. and if theres no absolute truth no right no Wrong its all survival of the fittest and things like genocide are all subject to the country. people like Hitler are just as right as Abraham Lincoln...
@moedizzl3 "if theres no absolute truth no right no Wrong"
Your right their isnt---thats why you ALL knowing god knew what would happen if he created Hitler------>>AND STILL CREATED HIM knowing the suffering he would bring to the world.
The same goes for your god, a moral perfect being/creator doesnt create suffering that will occure as of a result of creating
A perfectly compassionate being who creates beings which he knows are doomed to suffer is impossible
@devante11 look God did not make man evil he made us with a free will to choose from right and wrong if God eliminated all the wrong from the world he would also have to eliminated every thing that has the ablity to commit a wrong act and ither makes us slaves with no free will or to distroy everything that has that potential. i already explained the reason why God does not want to force us to love him but we each have to choose to love him. like i said b4 we really are not going anywhere
@devante11 i never said any of these things but ok i delieve rapisted should be put to death by the court of law thats what the bible teaches thats. you cant be married to someone that is dead... and the bible is against slavery it only said that people should be come slaves if they owe money and can not pay it back a person should be aloud to become a slave to pay of his debt.
@devante11 remember the bible marks what people do in the storys but Gods commandments throught the bible let us understand if a person was right or wrong in there actions. we need to righty divied the word of truth.
@devante11 it all dependes on the country... but there is the truth and that is that as much even if you dont believe in God you do know whats right and wrong for the simple fact. Hebrews 10:16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
you can choose to follow them or to reject them like hitler did he was a strong Darwinist that wanted to follow darwins book to the letter.
@devante11 he Just wanted to follow after his own lust. but if morals are subjective to the nation your in then why are people right to disagree with hitler? cause that is absolutliy wrong cause Romans 2:11 For there is no respect of persons with God. all men are equal.
@devante11 Acts 17:26 And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;
When a man has once brought himself to accept uncritically all the absurdities that religious doctrines put before him and even to overlook the contradictions between them, we need not be greatly suprised at the weakness of his intellect
Faith may be defined briefly as an illogical belief in the occurrence of the improbable.... A man full of faith is simply one who has lost (or never had) the capacity for clear and realistic thought. He is not a mere A S S :------->>>> he is actually MENTALLY ILL :)
WHAT WORD DIDNT YOU UNDERSTAND THE FUCK OR THE OFF?
@devante11 how could you not believe in critically e=mc2 and e will countinue to = mc2 forever its a law of Science Just like the Law of gravity. and other laws of science they will never stop being laws water will always be H2O that is an absolute fact you if you dont believe in absolutes you do not believe in a large part of science scientific Laws!!!!
@devante11 and how do you know that there is nothing 100% moral do you know everything in the universe? do you even know everything that human race knows? so how can you say there is nothing you to your knowlage there is nothing but you dont know anything. you believe that there is nothing by faith. good night...
it sounds like you were brain washed into believeing God wants to dam you to hell but all he wants you to do is call out in faith for him to save you Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. Romans 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
Furthermore, you follow a IMMORAL man made book, that leads many astray LOL
(Abrahams son)
A: Killing one's own child is and always will be an immoral act.
B: Commanding someone to commit an immoral act is itself an immoral act.
C: Perfect beings do not commit immoral acts. Therefore, any entity who commands you to kill your own child is engaging in immoral behavior, is imperfect, and should be ignored.
look Hell is real go ten miles down any ware on earth and you will see how real that lake of fire is. all you have to do is believe on the Lord Jesus Christ its a no strings attached gift
Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Ephesians 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
Romans 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
John 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
why dont you put the full mgs up Romans 3:23 For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God. Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. no one is perfect not me no you not any one heaven is perfect so if God would let anything unperfect into heaven it would stop being perfect.
I fear no god, or any man that stand in my way. I fear no devils, I'm not afraid of fantasy or consequence
ivanscorpse 1 month ago
@ivanscorpse Right On Brother...
NoFearOfGod 1 month ago
so if my mom was a murderer that would make me a murderer and deserve jail?
if my father was a child molester that would make me a child molester and deserve jail? if my "ancestor" deserve hell then i do it as well?..... and later people say that god is moral? c'mon!!
shadowknigth94 4 months ago
so if my mom was a murderer that would make me a murderer and deserve jail
if my father was a child molester that would make me a murderer and deserve jail? if my "ancestor" deserve hell then i do it as well?..... and later people say that god is moral? c'mon!!
shadowknigth94 4 months ago
I believe in the law of cause and effect if we are the cause there has to be an effect. Ive never seen nuthing make something.
moedizzl3 11 months ago
you are an athiest you "believe" that there is no God I "believe" that there is a God the key word is "believe" they both require faith buddy. You just believe in the begining nuthing created the heavens and the earth and I believe in the Begining God Created the heaven and the earth.
moedizzl3 11 months ago
the point was to make abarham show his faith that he believed that God would raise him from the dead and Abarham had faith that God would provide "himself" a sacrifice and thats what he did with the ram and how do you even judge right or wrong if theres no God than there is no such thing as morals as right or wrong if there is no judge than the laws of morality are subject to the individual.
moedizzl3 11 months ago
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Acts 16:30 And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?
Acts 16:31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.
its ez to go to heaven all you gotta do is place your faith in that Jesus paid for your sins and hes the one saveing you from hell it Just that simple and people are trying to make it all hard but its not well its up to you i hope you take the step of faith.
moedizzl3 1 year ago
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Acts 16:30 And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?
Acts 16:31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.
moedizzl3 1 year ago
Romans 4:4 Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. Romans 4:5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
its not a riligion its not a church its not even being good that will save you from hell its only Jesus put your faith in im to pay for your sins and he will. past present and futrue. its really that ez not of this being some type of nun or preast you just have to believe
moedizzl3 1 year ago
@moedizzl3 There is no hell, and all your quoting will never convince me there is nor frighten me in the least. When you die you are just dead, there is nothing after death.
Stop living for the next life and enjoy this one, it's the only one you have.
NoFearOfGod 1 year ago
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moedizzl3 1 year ago
@NoFearOfGod i do enjoy this life to the fullest my point was not to frighten you in anyway... me i live my life free of fear i do not fear any man or even death... and you could to all you gotta do is 1: admit you are a sinner( im a sinner just like you no one is perfect we have all lied stolen something etc)...
moedizzl3 1 year ago
@NoFearOfGod 2: beacuse of your sin one day your gonna die and should end in hell believe it or not.(remember everyone is a sinner and everyone should go to hell) 3: Romans 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us that in while we were yet sinners Christ died for us. John 3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that who so ever believeth in him should not perish but have everlasting life.
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@NoFearOfGod John 3:18 ''He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.'' What does the bible say it Just saids believe thats all it doesnt say go to church never drink again stop clubing etc... now if you do do that thats a good thing and God wants you to do that out of your own free will out of love he doesnt force you to do anything but believe that Jesus died for your sins
moedizzl3 1 year ago
@NoFearOfGod its a free gift that all you gotta do is accept it and its ez to accept you dont have to Join a Church group you dont need a man to help you do it all you gotta do is call upon the name of the Lord and you SHALL be Saved. Just pray to Jesus that He saves you from hell that his death covers all your sins past present and futrue and he will do it.
moedizzl3 1 year ago
@NoFearOfGod i Just want to leave you with this last thought. What was so speical about Jesus there have been many great men throughout time but none like Jesus why did time stop with his brith its like time counted down to his brith and time started over when he died BC. counting down and AD counting up if he was Just another man why did time stop?
moedizzl3 1 year ago
@moedizzl3 @moedizzl3 The Gregorian calender has only been used since 1582. It was introduced by Pope Gregory XIII. It is not the only calender in the world. If we go by written word, we have been doing that for around 8000 years, but non language communication has been around for much longer. The aboriginal culture goes back some 40,000 years. Music, art, stories: no alphabet, but a culture none the less. We are getting gyped out of eons of history due to a pope. Time did not stop for jesus.
NoFearOfGod 11 months ago
@NoFearOfGod actually that pope just revisied the Julian Calender which was around 45 BC The Julian calendar remained in use into the 20th century in some countries as a civil calendar, but has been replaced by the Gregorian calendar in nearly all countries.
moedizzl3 11 months ago
@NoFearOfGod The more modern Gregorian calendar eventually superseded the Julian calendar: the reason is that a tropical year (or solar year), which determines the cycle of seasons, is actually about 11 minutes shorter than 365.25 days. These extra 11 minutes per year in the Julian calendar caused it to gain about three days every four centuries, when compared to the observed equinox times and the seasons.
moedizzl3 11 months ago
@NoFearOfGod In the Gregorian calendar system, first proposed in the 16th century, this problem was dealt with by dropping some calendar days, in order to realign the calendar and the equinox times. Subsequently, the Gregorian calendar drops three leap year days across every four centuries.
moedizzl3 11 months ago
@NoFearOfGod look man i dont want this to turn into some history class my point was that if theres a person in time that made such an up roar i think thats the kinda person that is worth the second look see what hes really about. i cant force you and God wont force you its a choice we each have to make go by what everyone drills into us or check it out for our selves its up to u bro be safe...
moedizzl3 11 months ago
@moedizzl3 My point is this, your logic is flawed. Jesus had nothing to do with the calendar. He isn't important. It's a manmade construct. He wasn't so important that we reset the calendar for him. Some stupid pope did it about 500 years ago, 1500 years after he supposedly lived. You brought it up.
Humanity deserves more credit for our long struggle. God had nothing to do with it. He is not real. He did not help. Telling people they will go to hell does not help. Dont be afraid of hell.
NoFearOfGod 11 months ago
@NoFearOfGod my point was that Jesus was someone speical in history if you believe in God or not his impact through out history is amazing. let me Quote something to you and you tell me who this is talking about "He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not. Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.
moedizzl3 11 months ago
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@NoFearOfGod But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all."
moedizzl3 11 months ago
@NoFearOfGod who is this talking about?
moedizzl3 11 months ago
@moedizzl3 You.
NoFearOfGod 11 months ago
@NoFearOfGod lol nah its talking about Jesus and how he died and for the reason he died whats crazy is that this was written in the Old Testament in Isaiah 53 about 700+ years before Jesus was even born.
moedizzl3 11 months ago
@NoFearOfGod you said supposedly lived these are some Early Secular Historians Writings Regarding Christ
TACITUS: (55-117) A.D.) Cornelius Tactitus is regarded as the greatest historian of ancient Rome. Writing on the reign of Nero, Tacitus alludes to the death of Christ and to the existence of Christians in Rome.
“Consequently, to get rid of the report, Nero fastened the guilt and inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their abominations, called
moedizzl3 11 months ago
@NoFearOfGod Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of on of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judea, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome, where all things hideous and shameful from every part of the word find their center and become popular.”
moedizzl3 11 months ago
@NoFearOfGod LETTER OF MARA BARSARAPION: (73 A.D.)
Mara Bar-Serapion was a Syrian who lived in the first century A.D. He wrote a letter to his son Serapion that mentions the Jews who killed their King. The letter is now in the possession of the British Museum.
“What benefit did the Athenians obtain by putting Socrates to death?
moedizzl3 11 months ago
@NoFearOfGod Famine and plague came upon them as judgment for their crime. Or, the people of Samos for burning Pythagoras? In one moment their country was covered with sand. Or the Jews by murdering their wise king?…After that their kingdom was abolished. God rightly avenged these men…The wise king…Lived on in the teachings he enacted.”
moedizzl3 11 months ago
@NoFearOfGod PHLEGON: (1st Century)
A secular historian wrote a history named, “Chronicles.” This original work has been lost, Julius Africanus preserved a small fragment in his writings. Phlegon mentions the eclipse (Matthew 27:45) during the crucifixion of Jesus.
“During the time of Tiberius Caesar an eclipse of the sun occurred during the full moon.”
Africanus, Chronography, 18:1.
have you ever heard of Tiberius Caesar three historians wrote about him the same three historians wrote about
moedizzl3 11 months ago
Jesus plus another 12 non Christian Historians more Historians Wrote about Jesus Than Tiberius Caesar but people will Deny that Jesus Was an actual historical figure. its Kinda funny dont you think?
moedizzl3 11 months ago
look im 100% against religion religion was man made the bible does not mention anything about religion except in matthew 23 whe Jesus is railing on the religious people of his day calling them hypocrites. Jesus was the most anti-religion person on earth he came to do one thing and that is to save that which was lost he didnt say go to a church he didnt say become this or become that...
moedizzl3 11 months ago
this is what the bible said thats all you have to do to Go to heaven Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Romans 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
its your choice you could settle it right now and really start living your life free of fear cause death wont be something to worry about.
moedizzl3 11 months ago
hey if im wrong what does it even matter if theres no heaven no hell and i live my life happy following Jesus and at the end theres nothing than what have i really lost nothing i live a good happy life. but if im right and there is an after life think about that who is really risking more? its been cool talking to you be safe bro God Bless.
moedizzl3 11 months ago
@moedizzl3
Well seeing the odds are against you, seeing the thousands of gods ever documented, and putting your ALL your eggs into one basket, you are more at risk than anyone. Especially, when you have gone on NO evidence to support it.
To conquer fear is wisdom
devante11 11 months ago
@devante11 if i put a gun to your face what would your last words be? you would probably beg for your life but for me to live is Christ and to die is gain i dont fear anything cause im sure of where im going when i die. and are you sure theres no evidence? nlet me show you some...
moedizzl3 11 months ago
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@moedizzl3 they new the earth was round 2000+ years before it was discoverd to to be round. Isaiah 40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the "circle of the earth", and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:
moedizzl3 11 months ago
@moedizzl3 The knowledge of ocean currents goes back thousands of years. Aristotle and Socrates wrote about the cause of ocean currents and early sailors used the currents to their advantage. but Aristotle lived 384 BC – 322 BC but the bible new about these same paths Psalms 8:8 The fowl of the air, and the fish of the sea, and whatsoever passeth through the paths of the seas.
psalms were written by King David who lived from about 1037BC - 967 BC.
moedizzl3 11 months ago
@devante11 they knew that there was a center of the earth way before Isaac Newton and on top of that they new that there was a lake of flowing fire "lava" but thats all old science how a bout something new and something you could be one 100% sure about.
moedizzl3 11 months ago
@devante11 how about this The 8.9-magnitude earthquake in Japan shortened Earth's day by 1.8 millionths of a second. and the bible is Right once again Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.
moedizzl3 11 months ago
@devante11 Romans 1:19-20 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
the evidence is right infront of your eyes your just chosen not to look at it.
moedizzl3 11 months ago
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@devante11 Romans 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; God will not force you if you want it your way you can Have it you but if you really want to no the truth search for it im not trying to get you to join a church im not telling anything like that just take a step of faith and search for the truth.
moedizzl3 11 months ago
@devante11 John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
moedizzl3 11 months ago
@moedizzl3 i read one of your other comment about God premoting human Sacrifice and he didnt he Just had faith that God Could raise his only son from the dead and when Abarham said God will provide "himself" a Sacrifice he was puting his faith in Jesus he mite have not know his name at the time but thats who it was if you notice what he did sacrifice that day was a it wasnt his son it was a spotless ram who head was stuck in a thorns bush.
moedizzl3 11 months ago
kinda like Jesus was Gods only son kinda like his head was scared with a crown of thorns. its was all a symbol of his faith in Jesus takeing his place. thats what we all have to do. we have to put our faith in Jesus that he took our spot just like the ram took abarhams son spot
moedizzl3 11 months ago
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@moedizzl3
"i dont fear anything cause im sure of where im going when i die"------>>nope you are not sure of anything, but have fooled yourself you do
truth is not a belief. its a confirmation of fact!!! facts are proven with evidence. they can be tested, defended, verified, analyzed, debated and shown to be correct.
faith leads the blind over the edge of the cliff. TRUTH stops them from jumping
devante11 11 months ago
@moedizzl3
What a suprise, just the same crap all you christians say, oh evidence lets see, well back to the book im shackled to what does it say
Funny thing, is your book will never be evidence---->infact your book says the earth cannot be moved, which is infact false to start of with, each earthquake puts the earth off its axis
What you go by is faith, which is absent of evidence
devante11 11 months ago
@moedizzl3
"i dont fear anything cause im sure of where im going when i die"------>>nope you are not sure of anything, but have fooled yourself you do
truth is not a belief. its a confirmation of fact!!! facts are proven with evidence. they can be tested, defended, verified, analyzed, debated and shown to be correct.
faith leads the blind over the edge of the cliff. TRUTH stops them from jumping
devante11 11 months ago
@moedizzl3
@moedizzl3
"i dont fear anything cause im sure of where im going when i die"------>>nope you are not sure of anything, but have fooled yourself you do
truth is not a belief. its a confirmation of fact!!! facts are proven with evidence. they can be tested, defended, verified, analyzed, debated and shown to be correct.
faith leads the blind over the edge of the cliff. TRUTH stops them from jumping
devante11 11 months ago
@devante11 the truth is that you do believe in God by your own addmition you believe in God "is imperfect, and should be ignored." you Just feel he should be ignored. if your ignoring something its because it there to be ignored Romans 1:21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
moedizzl3 11 months ago
@moedizzl3
The truth is what you are following is a IMMORAL man made book<<<-------I guess you didnt read that part of my post shall I quote myself again so you can acknowledge it
"Furthermore, you follow a IMMORAL man made book"
Thus thats all I am doing
devante11 11 months ago
@moedizzl3
Furthermore, jesus calls his father good<<<<<<<<<<and thus supporting a immoral action of engaging in immoral behavior by his father by commanding Abraham to kill his son ...thus jesus should be ignored in the same manner as a immoral being you call your god
devante11 11 months ago
you dont want proof you just want to bash God just cause you dont like him... its that simple you dont like God. you want to be your own God but hey maybe thats a good thing cause your just an imperfect being and according to you imperfect beings should be ignored. so ignor yourself...
moedizzl3 11 months ago
@moedizzl3
But seeing you believe in this book as somekind of god, I was referring to YOU can ignore it as I said before as imperfect man made book that is IMMORAL, as no perfect being NEEDS you to do anything, as it has no needs, something that needs is imperfect. Something that involves itself in immoral acts such as commanding you to kill a child, is indeed not only imperfect, but evil beyond words :)
devante11 11 months ago
@devante11 look it wasnt immoral it was God trying to show Abarham how hard it is for a father to kill his Child and how He would one day have to sacrifice his own Child to save millions what is more moral than that. think of it like this your a train station conductor one day you bring your kid to work he get stuck on the tracks there is a train with hundreds of people on it you can do 1 of to things 1 flip the switch and save your son or 2 you can sacrifice the life of your son tosave Hundreds
moedizzl3 11 months ago
@moedizzl3
LOL LOL LOL, its attempted murder. Your god told Abraham to murder his son, thats a immoral thought and then a immoral action, by telling Abraham to murder his son LOL. Your all for attempted murder LOL LOL WTF???????? Abraham tied his son up AGAINST his will and put a knife to his throat LOL are you that deluded LOL LOL
devante11 11 months ago
@devante11 your missing the point... it was a picture of Jesus abarham was going to kill his son but God offered the ram that was found with his head stuck in the bush of throns as the replacement for his son it was a picture if Jesus Abarham never killed his son did he and he and his son killed the ram in his place as a picture of Jesus dying for us that was the hole point. if i only watch the first five mins of a movie can i say i know exsactly what that movie is about?
moedizzl3 11 months ago
@moedizzl3
LOL its attempted murder are you that dull......go out and try it yourself ..you will get 16 years jail time
Dont you know what a immoral action is???????WTF
devante11 11 months ago
@devante11 no you cant you have to watch the whole thing to fully understand it and sometimes you gotta watch it twice. look theres really nothing else i can say to you Just open up a King James Bible and read it even if its just to prove the bible wrong study how nature acts and follow the proof where it leads you.... be safe bro its been cool talking to you but were not really geting anywhere so have a good day...
moedizzl3 11 months ago
@moedizzl3
Your a mentally ill dumbfuck, your a immoral person, promoting attempted murder......the police need to be called ---->>your a danger to mankind
devante11 11 months ago
@devante11 thank you :-) Matthew 5:11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
moedizzl3 11 months ago
@devante11 what is more moral the life of hundreds for one or the life of one for hundreds thats true moral when white and black meet grey and you still do the greater good. that what Jesus did for the world we where all on that train and Jesus was on the track God saw it fit to kill one to save millions.
moedizzl3 11 months ago
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@moedizzl3
"the bible was written by man about as much as this comment was written by my keyboard."
Your right, you wrote it your comment and ignorant men wrote your book. To the point rape victims were sold off to their attacker, for a lifetime of more rape and fear, LOL
devante11 11 months ago
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all you gotta do is accept the free gift of his son... John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
moedizzl3 11 months ago
@devante11 the bible was written by man about as much as this comment was written by my keyboard.
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@moedizzl3
Any christian who supports this god or jesus, is also involved in a immoral act, by supporting immoral behavior and should also be ignored as retarded, and the police should be called for any christian who supports these immoral acts
"the bible was written by man about as much as this comment was written by my keyboard."
devante11 11 months ago
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@moedizzl3
@moedizzl3
Any christian who supports this god or jesus, is also involved in a immoral act, by supporting immoral behavior and should also be ignored as retarded, and the police should be called for any christian who supports these immoral acts
"the bible was written by man about as much as this comment was written by my keyboard."
devante11 11 months ago
@devante11 something that needs is imperfect? no need are made up by a means to acomplish a goal God's goal was to save the world so there he NEEDED to devise a plan to save people from hell because he is perfect and sin has to be punished so he had the NEED to creat a why for him to Justify the imperfections of man and that Came thru the sacrific of Jesus how is it that you dont see this logic
moedizzl3 11 months ago
@devante11 Romans 5:17 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)
moedizzl3 11 months ago
@moedizzl3
DUH, perfect beings/creators, have NO need to correct things, AND HAVE NO NEEDS TO CORRECT ANYTHING --------->>>>>>>> if perfect....perfect does not beget imperfect
Fuck me
1. You think from perfection, comes imperfection
2. You think attempted murder is moral
3. Get help your a immoral and very mentally ill PERSON
4. Seek medical help, FAST!
devante11 11 months ago
@devante11 who said he was correcting himself he made man with a free will so we can choose him or not its not be cause of him but because we have a free will God could have made us all robots but how can a God that loves love a Robot its imposible. love is an action that is done out of the free will would you want to tie the person you love up and force them to love you? no you wouldnt be happy and she wouldnt be happy if God didnt give us a choice to reject him than he would be forceing us.
moedizzl3 11 months ago
@moedizzl3
Duh, if you are from a perfect being/creator, you would be perfect also. Even with ALL the freewill in the world, ALL your choices would be a default perfect choice and you would have perfect judgement---->>the product (man)-----is only as good the source (your god) ....if the product is imperfect so is the source
devante11 11 months ago
@devante11 we do have the ablity to do right but you are able to do wrong because you understand that there is a diffrence. and is the product "Just as good as the source" you take a huge stinky crap does that mean that its Just as clean as the food you put in your mouth... a rotting tree is Just as good as a seed? a beautiful island is Just as good as a valcano? thats stupid thinking.
moedizzl3 11 months ago
@moedizzl3
DUH, your god is perfect (the source)----->>>the product (man)----->>it produces can only be perfect to ....it cant deviate....imperfection can only happen if the source (your god) is imperfect
Wrong cant happen if your god is perfect
The reason we have differing morals is because ALL morals are made by man and differ from culture to culture and change over time
devante11 11 months ago
@devante11 how do you believe in morals you cant see them touch them or feel them? how do you explain your view of right and wrong? if theres nothing thats 100% moral in nature how do you Judge whats moral? if you got your ideas of morals from man how can you trust them?
moedizzl3 11 months ago
@moedizzl3
Morals are from man ...as man makes ALL laws, thats why morals differ from country to country
There is nothing 100% moral, we only need to look at your man made book LOL LOL
devante11 11 months ago
@devante11 once again the bible was not man made it was physically written by 40+ men that lived 100 even thousands of years apart yet it meshes together as if one person wrote it because it does have one writter and that is God! so whats right for you is not be right to me but we are can both be right? thats what you believe?
moedizzl3 11 months ago
@moedizzl3
@moedizzl3
"physically written by 40+"
THUS ONE PERSON DID NOT WRITE IT LOL LOL STOP BEING DELUDED YOUR FOOLING YOURSELF
The reason we dont force rape VICTIMS to marry their attacker with no say in the matter and sold for a few shekels like slaves for a lifetime of more rape and fear from their attacker, with no way of the divorcing>The reason we do not do this as it is HIGHLY IMMORAL--->
devante11 11 months ago
@devante11 i never said one person wrote it i said it flows as if it had one writter cause its inspiered by one and that is God.
how can you say that something is highly immoral if there is no standard of morality? according to you morals depend on the country... o and there are countries that do that and it is highly immoral yes but it is the norm China is one of them. but they kill the baby...
moedizzl3 11 months ago
@moedizzl3
Nothing needs to be inspired if from a ALL knowing being LOL LOL
How can we judge what is moral?------------>dont get your morals from primitive man made books LOL LOL
devante11 11 months ago
@devante11 if thats true and morals are all from man depending on the country how can you say that Abarhams actions were imoral? or that Gods actions are imoral how can you come to that concution if you said that its all subject to the country.
moedizzl3 11 months ago
@moedizzl3
WE PROTECT THE VICTIM, WE DONT PUT THEM IN MORE DANGER ...FUCK SAKE WAKE UP YOU DELUDED AND DELUSIONAL DUMBFUCK!
"how can you say that Abarhams actions were imoral? or that Gods actions are imoral"
As moral people dont tell you to kill your child, let alone think of it, perfect being dont get involved in immoral behaviour or actions
devante11 11 months ago
@devante11 if you believe this "Morals are from man ...as man makes ALL laws, thats why morals differ from country to country" How can you Judge what is moral or imoral. that is my simple point Whats is imoral for you might be moral for someone else according to you. how can you say that that is imoral if morals are subject to country.
moedizzl3 11 months ago
@devante11 im Just asking you to explain from your world veiw right and wrong
moedizzl3 11 months ago
@devante11 but you cant from your world view every thing is subjective there is no absolute truth. and if theres no absolute truth no right no Wrong its all survival of the fittest and things like genocide are all subject to the country. people like Hitler are just as right as Abraham Lincoln...
moedizzl3 11 months ago
@moedizzl3 "if theres no absolute truth no right no Wrong"
Your right their isnt---thats why you ALL knowing god knew what would happen if he created Hitler------>>AND STILL CREATED HIM knowing the suffering he would bring to the world.
The same goes for your god, a moral perfect being/creator doesnt create suffering that will occure as of a result of creating
A perfectly compassionate being who creates beings which he knows are doomed to suffer is impossible
devante11 11 months ago
@devante11 look God did not make man evil he made us with a free will to choose from right and wrong if God eliminated all the wrong from the world he would also have to eliminated every thing that has the ablity to commit a wrong act and ither makes us slaves with no free will or to distroy everything that has that potential. i already explained the reason why God does not want to force us to love him but we each have to choose to love him. like i said b4 we really are not going anywhere
moedizzl3 11 months ago
@devante11 so im gonna call it a night. be safe man and know that there are no hard feelings God Bless
moedizzl3 11 months ago
@moedizzl3
Stop defending immoralities of a man made book...im done arguing with a dumbfuck who thinks
1. Attempted murder is moral
2. Perfect begets imperfect
3. That rape victims are forced to marry the attacker, sold off as a slave, and may never divorce, andhave no voice
4. Your DELUDED
5. FUCK OFF! :)
devante11 11 months ago
@devante11 i never said any of these things but ok i delieve rapisted should be put to death by the court of law thats what the bible teaches thats. you cant be married to someone that is dead... and the bible is against slavery it only said that people should be come slaves if they owe money and can not pay it back a person should be aloud to become a slave to pay of his debt.
moedizzl3 11 months ago
@devante11 remember the bible marks what people do in the storys but Gods commandments throught the bible let us understand if a person was right or wrong in there actions. we need to righty divied the word of truth.
moedizzl3 11 months ago
@devante11 Peace :-)
moedizzl3 11 months ago
@devante11 it all dependes on the country... but there is the truth and that is that as much even if you dont believe in God you do know whats right and wrong for the simple fact. Hebrews 10:16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
you can choose to follow them or to reject them like hitler did he was a strong Darwinist that wanted to follow darwins book to the letter.
moedizzl3 11 months ago
@devante11 he Just wanted to follow after his own lust. but if morals are subjective to the nation your in then why are people right to disagree with hitler? cause that is absolutliy wrong cause Romans 2:11 For there is no respect of persons with God. all men are equal.
moedizzl3 11 months ago
@devante11 Acts 17:26 And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;
moedizzl3 11 months ago
@moedizzl3
When a man has once brought himself to accept uncritically all the absurdities that religious doctrines put before him and even to overlook the contradictions between them, we need not be greatly suprised at the weakness of his intellect
devante11 11 months ago
@moedizzl3
Faith may be defined briefly as an illogical belief in the occurrence of the improbable.... A man full of faith is simply one who has lost (or never had) the capacity for clear and realistic thought. He is not a mere A S S :------->>>> he is actually MENTALLY ILL :)
WHAT WORD DIDNT YOU UNDERSTAND THE FUCK OR THE OFF?
devante11 11 months ago
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@devante11 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. Hebrews 11:1
moedizzl3 11 months ago
@devante11 how could you not believe in critically e=mc2 and e will countinue to = mc2 forever its a law of Science Just like the Law of gravity. and other laws of science they will never stop being laws water will always be H2O that is an absolute fact you if you dont believe in absolutes you do not believe in a large part of science scientific Laws!!!!
moedizzl3 11 months ago
@devante11 and how do you know that there is nothing 100% moral do you know everything in the universe? do you even know everything that human race knows? so how can you say there is nothing you to your knowlage there is nothing but you dont know anything. you believe that there is nothing by faith. good night...
moedizzl3 11 months ago
it sounds like you were brain washed into believeing God wants to dam you to hell but all he wants you to do is call out in faith for him to save you Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. Romans 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
moedizzl3 1 year ago
@moedizzl3
Whats even funnier is you go on faith, but dismiss other faiths, that go on faith, thus proving to the whole world faith is indeed very false LMAO
devante11 11 months ago
@moedizzl3
Furthermore, you follow a IMMORAL man made book, that leads many astray LOL
(Abrahams son)
A: Killing one's own child is and always will be an immoral act.
B: Commanding someone to commit an immoral act is itself an immoral act.
C: Perfect beings do not commit immoral acts. Therefore, any entity who commands you to kill your own child is engaging in immoral behavior, is imperfect, and should be ignored.
devante11 11 months ago
look Hell is real go ten miles down any ware on earth and you will see how real that lake of fire is. all you have to do is believe on the Lord Jesus Christ its a no strings attached gift
Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Ephesians 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
moedizzl3 1 year ago
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John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
moedizzl3 1 year ago
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John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
moedizzl3 1 year ago
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Romans 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
John 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
moedizzl3 1 year ago
why dont you put the full mgs up Romans 3:23 For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God. Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. no one is perfect not me no you not any one heaven is perfect so if God would let anything unperfect into heaven it would stop being perfect.
moedizzl3 1 year ago
Nice work!! Let's put a stop to the brainwashing!!
RTKFilms 1 year ago
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Rapture092011Repent 1 year ago
@Rapture092011Repent My first comment and you can't even spell true....sigh.
NoFearOfGod 1 year ago