core was good at making tomb raider and cd are good at making tomb raider now so why is the fuss about who made the games better i think there both good at maiking tomb raider
@haistaja I saw that video of yours.It was hillarious!I was waiting for the download to happen to see what you'll do.Then you immediately muted it and I was like XD ROFL...That guy sure sucks.It's not even real music.Just random sounds put together.So in total we get failed music,failed secrets,failed story,failed,unoriginal games and whores to play with XD.But I have to admit that I liked one thing about these games.The parodies that followed XD...
Lets face it ppl Crystal is very un original, they stole ALOT of secret movements on AOD LOTS of them and they stole some from the ps1's and the movies, and stole story lines to.
@haistaja there so lazy about it, there not with graphics, though, apparently they dont enjoy making them and get "bored", well give the damn torch to Core, jeez
and its because Tomb Raider was invented by someone else.
Lets put it this way: if someone would say:
METALLICA ruined their last album, lets put some other guys to make the next album. What would the new guys do? They would listen to old albums and copy the ideas from them.
@haistaja Dude look it up. hes working on a AA projectwith CD after they release Lara Croft and The Guardian of Light.. idk but ima give that one a chance, it looks pretty cool so dont bash on that lol. you havent played it :P
I dont *BELIEVE* Wikipedia, but there are a lot things i dont believe either and still they are true.
Should i believe you instead, when you say Toby was hired AFTER TR Underworld even though i saw it with my own eyes that he was hired when Crystal started to work on TR Legend and that he left AFTER TR Underworld?
@haistaja yes i have pictures of me playing the playstation when i was 2 deep down in the 1000s of photo albums my mother so religious held on too. Toby was never in CD before. They hired him after TRU into the developement team he even said so himself. Core's all new engine would have included new controls and better fighting abilities but instead they just added unnecessary pile up to the previous engine. such as the shitty physics and the horrible hand to hand combat.
Core tried to make something new with AOD, all new engine etc. What Crystal did with TR Legend, they just continued using their old Legacy of Kain engine etc. stuff. They didnt make anything new, and still havent. With TR Underworld, They still used their old engine, created in 1999. They only improved it just like Core did with TR1 to TR5 (in 3-4 years time)
PLUS. Natla was changed because of time change. Lara was much older in TRU than TR1 so yeah. You all are naive. no offense just pointing that out. They are working with Toby on the next one. TOBY ORIGINALLY WROTE TOMB RAIDER so you know with toby working there. you CANT completely down crystal dynamics. besides their name is much better than core design and tomb raider legend sold MUCH more than AOD.
ok ppl. LISTEN I am a huge tomb raider fan. Owned the first tomb raider and beat it 100% when i was 2. So listen Core Design DOES NOT make Tomb Raider anymore because Eidos made them rush AOD. So they hired CD to do the job. Tomb Raider Legend was AMAZING and so was Underworld. Amanda was planned by Core but they handed her over to CD she still look the same. CD and Core both are great developers. CD updated the graphics and physics. Lara wouldnt be who lara is with out Crystal Dynamics.
Crystal Dynamics need to give up on Tomb Raider. The magic is gone. They rip off of Core Design to make their own games look better. Like, Natla for instance. They take her look and give it to Amanda, then make Natla look like... Shit, basically. They HAVE no original ideas because they try and try and try, but they can't do better than Core. They are in denial bad.
As are you. You seem to deny everything that is new in the Tomb Raider world, if you think this shit is so bugged, why don't you... I don't know... Stop playing the new ones?
No, Haistaja is NOT in denial. Crystal Dynamics ripped completely off of Core's work. I can name about 50 things they have done to Natla ALONE that suck. You are in hardcore denial, because Crystal totally sucks. If you like them, then go play their games and don't look up Core's stuff anymore because you were never truly a fan after all.
Shut up! You all see only the graphics on Cristal Dynamics, so you said this is the most important for a game. Maybe Core Design had a bad graphic, but they don't have so many problems like CDynamics and THEY CREATED TOMB RAIDER! If you think this video is stupid, why don't you stop watch it?
Hey thats has nothing about they just look alike they didnt copy it why would they cpy something from the tomb raider that ALMOST had tomb raider killed??
hey thank you....now that u helped me find out how stupid is crystal shit..uh oh i mean crystal dynamic....now i have more free space :) now im playing only tr1-6 .... hehehe oh and crystal dick sucks!
Ugh, that wasn;t much help, the difficulty's still too easy NO THANKS to the really highlighted and obvious ledges, The INFINITE ammo of each weapon that makes the game too easy, and the too much opportunity to make the adrenaline headshot... we really don't need the headshot thinggy, makes the game too easy. Good thing if it's only slow motion...
TRAOD was one of the worse games of TR series (but i like the game), and it was done by Core Design. Crystal Dynamics made Tomb Raider reborn to something better. Tomb Raider Legend is a great game. So i like the old Tomb Raider games, but i also like the new Tomb Raider games. And you should like them too.
Toby Gard? You mean the cinematic director? lol. That clown left the team after TR1 and is now in only for a commercial purpose for idiots like you who think he actually created something.
and may I ask what Core has done with themselves? answer, absolutley fuck all, simple reason being Tomb Raider under their control was a one track pony.
you say you love Tomb Raider, then why did you say no Tomb Raider rather than C.D's Tomb Raider? you can't love it that much.
do yourself a favour and don't even try a flame war kid, you will lose badly.
i'll ask you a question...when did you start to love TR?...i mean can you really claim CD is doing "tomb raider"...if it is so than you are definitely not a tr lover; you're just fan of a nice game leading by a beautiful female character...
I love both Core and Crystal Dynamic's Tomb Raider games, you are just crazy fanboys who don't know how to appreciate one thing without hating the another.
Fanboys are not like real fans as their fixation is on the imperfections of successors rather than evangelising the predecessors.
How about you talk about why Core is so great rather than why CD is suck?
I don't see where CD has copied core's?? you mean that they have the black background, blue light, those ancient patterns, and the box design is copied??
Its actually the gameplay, dude, ya better not say something bad unless you its more than 95% related to the vid! TRAOD was good! when you get to the other levels its better! I bet you only finished less than half of it.
1. Bring back CORE DESIGN EIDOS!!! 2. Make a new version of ANGEL OF DARKNESS 3. If you make a AOD MENU you might as well make the next chapter of the AOD TRILOGY Crystal Dynamics!!
Well, lots of people are saying that TR:U reminds of AoD quite a lot... But, well, AoD is way better, TR:U probably takes some ideas from it, but that doesn't mean it will be as good :-P They should come up with something original...
core was good at making tomb raider and cd are good at making tomb raider now so why is the fuss about who made the games better i think there both good at maiking tomb raider
tekken5785 4 months ago
Guys.Check this out.Did you know the TRL theme(the only good theme they made)was a remix of an original Celtic song?
flamesdemon19 11 months ago
@flamesdemon19
I can believe that. The compser (what was his name again) is so pathetic he cant create original songs. Just like Crystal Dynamics.
haistaja 11 months ago
@haistaja I saw that video of yours.It was hillarious!I was waiting for the download to happen to see what you'll do.Then you immediately muted it and I was like XD ROFL...That guy sure sucks.It's not even real music.Just random sounds put together.So in total we get failed music,failed secrets,failed story,failed,unoriginal games and whores to play with XD.But I have to admit that I liked one thing about these games.The parodies that followed XD...
flamesdemon19 11 months ago
Lets face it ppl Crystal is very un original, they stole ALOT of secret movements on AOD LOTS of them and they stole some from the ps1's and the movies, and stole story lines to.
Jmjgypsy 1 year ago 3
@Jmjgypsy
This is all true!!!
haistaja 1 year ago
@haistaja there so lazy about it, there not with graphics, though, apparently they dont enjoy making them and get "bored", well give the damn torch to Core, jeez
Jmjgypsy 1 year ago
@Jmjgypsy
and its because Tomb Raider was invented by someone else.
Lets put it this way: if someone would say:
METALLICA ruined their last album, lets put some other guys to make the next album. What would the new guys do? They would listen to old albums and copy the ideas from them.
Was that undestandable? :D
haistaja 1 year ago
@haistaja yes, and that would suck,
Jmjgypsy 1 year ago
TOBY IS FIRED :D YES HE WAS AN BETRAYAL SQUARE ENIX LET CD MAKE WORK TOGETHER WITH CD!
princessofKTEB 1 year ago
. . . . Wow there the same colour apart from that completely different
DanCroftWalkthroughs 1 year ago
@VocaloidRin12
Not quite ... but now that you said it, yes.
haistaja 1 year ago
@haistaja Dude look it up. hes working on a AA projectwith CD after they release Lara Croft and The Guardian of Light.. idk but ima give that one a chance, it looks pretty cool so dont bash on that lol. you havent played it :P
FsP4 1 year ago
@haistaja you seriously believe wikipedia. LMAO like I said. NAIVE
FsP4 1 year ago
@FsP4
I dont *BELIEVE* Wikipedia, but there are a lot things i dont believe either and still they are true.
Should i believe you instead, when you say Toby was hired AFTER TR Underworld even though i saw it with my own eyes that he was hired when Crystal started to work on TR Legend and that he left AFTER TR Underworld?
haistaja 1 year ago
@haistaja yes i have pictures of me playing the playstation when i was 2 deep down in the 1000s of photo albums my mother so religious held on too. Toby was never in CD before. They hired him after TRU into the developement team he even said so himself. Core's all new engine would have included new controls and better fighting abilities but instead they just added unnecessary pile up to the previous engine. such as the shitty physics and the horrible hand to hand combat.
FsP4 1 year ago
@FsP4
Sorry but Crystal Dynamics hired Toby Gard to work with TR Legend. They FIRED him after TR Underworld. .. or like Wikipedia says:
"...he left the design group for this project and is now working as a computer game consultant at Focal Point Games LLC."
haistaja 1 year ago
@haistaja xD yep wise desision to fire the bugger... he left lara alone after TR 1.. not a bad thing though
vinnyvis 1 year ago
Lara wouldnt be here if it werent for Core but think about it. If core had kept going after AOD they wouldnt have sold sh**
FsP4 1 year ago
@FsP4
Core tried to make something new with AOD, all new engine etc. What Crystal did with TR Legend, they just continued using their old Legacy of Kain engine etc. stuff. They didnt make anything new, and still havent. With TR Underworld, They still used their old engine, created in 1999. They only improved it just like Core did with TR1 to TR5 (in 3-4 years time)
haistaja 1 year ago
PLUS. Natla was changed because of time change. Lara was much older in TRU than TR1 so yeah. You all are naive. no offense just pointing that out. They are working with Toby on the next one. TOBY ORIGINALLY WROTE TOMB RAIDER so you know with toby working there. you CANT completely down crystal dynamics. besides their name is much better than core design and tomb raider legend sold MUCH more than AOD.
FsP4 1 year ago
@FsP4
Toby Gard created Lara Croft. Core Design made Tomb Raider as we know it. Toby only had an idea but Core made the game.
When Toby was working with Crystal Dynamics, he was in it more like a comercing purpose than developing the game.
haistaja 1 year ago
ok ppl. LISTEN I am a huge tomb raider fan. Owned the first tomb raider and beat it 100% when i was 2. So listen Core Design DOES NOT make Tomb Raider anymore because Eidos made them rush AOD. So they hired CD to do the job. Tomb Raider Legend was AMAZING and so was Underworld. Amanda was planned by Core but they handed her over to CD she still look the same. CD and Core both are great developers. CD updated the graphics and physics. Lara wouldnt be who lara is with out Crystal Dynamics.
FsP4 1 year ago
@FsP4
Sorry but when you were 2??? Do you mean you played TR1 when you were 2 years old? lol. Somehow i dont believe that :P
haistaja 1 year ago
Ugh...
Crystal Dynamics need to give up on Tomb Raider. The magic is gone. They rip off of Core Design to make their own games look better. Like, Natla for instance. They take her look and give it to Amanda, then make Natla look like... Shit, basically. They HAVE no original ideas because they try and try and try, but they can't do better than Core. They are in denial bad.
JacquelineNatla 1 year ago
@JacquelineNatla
Yeah, and so are many players out there.
haistaja 1 year ago
@haistaja
I hate the Crystal fans. They're living in idiocy.
JacquelineNatla 1 year ago
i want Core back :(
vampirekiller13 1 year ago
Again???
MisterHeroy 2 years ago
Again.
haistaja 2 years ago
AGAIN???
cristianvasile555 2 years ago
Again.
ejocuri09 2 years ago
It wasn't even the same design - the background of the Tomb Raider: Underworld menu is of the shapes corresponding to Mjolnir...
Minimus57 2 years ago
You're in denial.
haistaja 2 years ago
those two designs are completly different!
tru has norse patterns that can be in the levels and aod has sort of... gears? or it looks a bit like a map... what is it?
T0by24 2 years ago
Yeah what ever. You are in denial.
haistaja 2 years ago
As are you. You seem to deny everything that is new in the Tomb Raider world, if you think this shit is so bugged, why don't you... I don't know... Stop playing the new ones?
HarrehMan 2 years ago
No, Haistaja is NOT in denial. Crystal Dynamics ripped completely off of Core's work. I can name about 50 things they have done to Natla ALONE that suck. You are in hardcore denial, because Crystal totally sucks. If you like them, then go play their games and don't look up Core's stuff anymore because you were never truly a fan after all.
JacquelineNatla 2 years ago 3
Shut up! You all see only the graphics on Cristal Dynamics, so you said this is the most important for a game. Maybe Core Design had a bad graphic, but they don't have so many problems like CDynamics and THEY CREATED TOMB RAIDER! If you think this video is stupid, why don't you stop watch it?
ejocuri09 2 years ago
Hey thats has nothing about they just look alike they didnt copy it why would they cpy something from the tomb raider that ALMOST had tomb raider killed??
AkatsukiNinjaXD 3 years ago
Well they took a lot of ideas from AoD so ...
haistaja 3 years ago
TRL, A & U killed TR. And Lara. I mean, why the fukk make 2 lame games about finding her fukken mother? That's just soo un-Lara.
Zemalie 2 years ago
Your "fukken" words just made me laugh :D
My next video will be: TRU - Random Weird Shit.
haistaja 2 years ago
Haha XP (Both parts)
That video must be very long then, if including every lame wierd Underworld shit.
Zemalie 2 years ago
lol. Not all of them, just some random weird shit :P
haistaja 2 years ago
All right... =P
Zemalie 2 years ago
hey thank you....now that u helped me find out how stupid is crystal shit..uh oh i mean crystal dynamic....now i have more free space :) now im playing only tr1-6 .... hehehe oh and crystal dick sucks!
cristianvasile555 2 years ago 2
No problem :D
haistaja 2 years ago
I agree. What are Crystal Dynamics thinking? They couldn't make a good Tomb Raider game if Core were holding their hands and LEADING them.
JacquelineNatla 2 years ago 11
In the TRU options, the design wasn't really important, just put there to make it look cool. Unoriginal, copying AOD's menu design :|
In AOD the design is significant because it's actually the Obscura painting engravings.
vmj51 3 years ago
Yeah, i agree.
haistaja 3 years ago
Ugh, that wasn;t much help, the difficulty's still too easy NO THANKS to the really highlighted and obvious ledges, The INFINITE ammo of each weapon that makes the game too easy, and the too much opportunity to make the adrenaline headshot... we really don't need the headshot thinggy, makes the game too easy. Good thing if it's only slow motion...
vmj51 3 years ago
You fuckin tell em! AOD is the most interesting and well made tr. it just has some issues with controls, but not as bad as the crystal games!!
sumbodyshero 3 years ago
TRAOD was one of the worse games of TR series (but i like the game), and it was done by Core Design. Crystal Dynamics made Tomb Raider reborn to something better. Tomb Raider Legend is a great game. So i like the old Tomb Raider games, but i also like the new Tomb Raider games. And you should like them too.
MasterofTombRaider 3 years ago 2
Why?
haistaja 3 years ago
Shut up evryone! TRAOD is an amazing game, and the fucking CD will never do a game better than that! Never!
Crystal Dynamics sucks!
Zemalie 3 years ago
You said it best!
haistaja 3 years ago
Indeed AOD is amazing !
fusarauilie 3 years ago 2
AOD was the worst Tomb Raider ever! and my wife has played it countless times and even gives up with playing it.
for the record she has completed it several times just before you kids want to go on about giving up after the first level.
it had merit when they announced it, but their ideas went all to hell and almost destroyed Tomb Raider, no wonder Eidos took it from them.
with Toby Gard the original creator of Lara Croft working with C.D atleast we are guaranteed great games every time.
mcich 3 years ago
Toby Gard? You mean the cinematic director? lol. That clown left the team after TR1 and is now in only for a commercial purpose for idiots like you who think he actually created something.
haistaja 3 years ago
and may I ask what Core has done with themselves? answer, absolutley fuck all, simple reason being Tomb Raider under their control was a one track pony.
you say you love Tomb Raider, then why did you say no Tomb Raider rather than C.D's Tomb Raider? you can't love it that much.
do yourself a favour and don't even try a flame war kid, you will lose badly.
mcich 3 years ago
You think about that.
haistaja 3 years ago
i'll ask you a question...when did you start to love TR?...i mean can you really claim CD is doing "tomb raider"...if it is so than you are definitely not a tr lover; you're just fan of a nice game leading by a beautiful female character...
revengeofthemoon 3 years ago 3
Hey, the ones who likes C.D's "Tomb Raiders" didn't like the real Tomb Raiders. I miss Core...
Zemalie 3 years ago
I love both Core and Crystal Dynamic's Tomb Raider games, you are just crazy fanboys who don't know how to appreciate one thing without hating the another.
Fanboys are not like real fans as their fixation is on the imperfections of successors rather than evangelising the predecessors.
How about you talk about why Core is so great rather than why CD is suck?
Treblaine 3 years ago 6
Fanboy? Not me anyway, and why did you reply on MY comment??! I'll might break your dreams, but I'm actully a FEMALE.
Zemalie 3 years ago
LOL nice comeback XD
alen132465 3 years ago
Yay XD
Zemalie 2 years ago
@Treblaine Well then, fangirls must know what they're doing! Thanks for letting me know! :D
Kinpatsulozz44 3 weeks ago in playlist Crystal Dynamics sucks!
I don't see where CD has copied core's?? you mean that they have the black background, blue light, those ancient patterns, and the box design is copied??
pARaGoN91 3 years ago
If you dont see it, watch harder.
haistaja 3 years ago
I still don't see it :S plz tell me! xD
pARaGoN91 3 years ago
Find it on internet. I usually dont explain obvious things.
haistaja 3 years ago
AOD was the worst game ever existed!!!i rather play ''pacman'' than this....In TRU gameplay you see that lara is moving like assasins creed...
konstantina94 3 years ago
Ok, what ever. I think that you didnt even finish the game, but quit it in the first level like so many other who say its the worst game ever.
In TRU gameplay I see that Lara is moving like a god damn monkey.
haistaja 3 years ago
first,i rented AOD...i played it and didn't like it...so...i didn't buy it!!!what kind of new move do you expect from TRU????lara FLYING????
konstantina94 3 years ago
I only expect to get good gameplay, good controls, and good animations, but that is too much to ask when its Crystal Dynamics.
haistaja 3 years ago
Its actually the gameplay, dude, ya better not say something bad unless you its more than 95% related to the vid! TRAOD was good! when you get to the other levels its better! I bet you only finished less than half of it.
mudkip25 3 years ago
Get what? The player tailoring game options pic? From tombraiderchronicles com
haistaja 3 years ago
1. Bring back CORE DESIGN EIDOS!!! 2. Make a new version of ANGEL OF DARKNESS 3. If you make a AOD MENU you might as well make the next chapter of the AOD TRILOGY Crystal Dynamics!!
Skuller1200 3 years ago 12
Oh god no, what ever you do, dont let Crystal Dynamics make a AoD remake!!!
haistaja 3 years ago
You read my lips
(Like re-plying moth-old comments.)
Zemalie 2 years ago
It seems like they're stealing a lot from AoD...for being such a "failure" they're sure using a lot of it's features.
morsusmihi 3 years ago 5
Its nice to steal ideas ... especially if the original didnt succeed.
haistaja 3 years ago
Well, lots of people are saying that TR:U reminds of AoD quite a lot... But, well, AoD is way better, TR:U probably takes some ideas from it, but that doesn't mean it will be as good :-P They should come up with something original...
Potkanka 3 years ago 3
yeah! tomb raider underwolrd doesn´t looks that very good
tombraiderules4ever 3 years ago