crash team racing_roo's tubes-1:14:35 in pal

[saeed1ksa1]

ok it is ctr in anyway

in ntsc-j can get SL lap-1 very easy and good and pal

this what i see and the turbo don't finish fast than pal

pal faster and turbo finish i see it at cheats but ntsc-u can get total very-good without SL this about me

[Platinumctr]

@crashteamalphing mmm yes?? what they are? tell me one, I cant see any difference.

Graphics and gameplay are equal for me, the only different is that he play on emulator and he can edit the controls keys.

[crashteamalphing]

@Platinumctr

1) almost all your records in ctr4ever are illegal because you use illegal versions

2) emulator gameplay =/= ps gameplay, for obvious reasons

3) you have never played with the real PAL, I have, I know the froggy isn't as easy, but maybe it's the emulator that does that, either way not legal and not the real PAL.

[Platinumctr]

@crashteamalphing

1) My CD of PAL version is the same copy of Pardiez, Amaraticando, Linkzer etc,

The same for NTSC-U , I am using the same CD of you is just a copy of the original game, any difference.

And NTSC-J is a copy of the same CD of Lorys, BTF, etc

Copy or Original dont make difference, are the same dates in the discs.

2) I get the same results in the emulator without cheating, ( psxfin is equal of ps1)

3) Emulator or Console the froggy stop sometimes on PAL version , but in NTSC not.

[crashteamalphing]

@Platinumctr That's what I say, copies shouldn't be allowed because they're not original CDs, so for me pardiez, amara, linkzer, lorys, btf, etc... all use illegal versions. You say they're the same, but from what I see with PAL version I disagree, I think those people have had an unfair advantage. I can't ship you PAL version. But if you get to play on it one day, I'll watch.

[Platinumctr]

@crashteamalphing

I think you are confusing the things, the disc dont have nothing different or edited, the game is totally the same, the only different is the way that you see it one the TV.

The only added in the disc is a small file that resize the height of the views points of the screen,and fps views too.

If there is a advantage, the people with Original CD and console have it,not the copies, thats what I see at simple view.

Thats can explain why is not possible sub 1:53:xx in mystery caves

[crashteamalphing]

@Platinumctr "If there is a advantage, the people with Original CD and console have it,not the copies, thats what I see at simple view."

Even if the advantage was for original CDs, that would be a reason not to allow the copies. but the worse thing is probably when you try to mess up with the zones, for example with your disc PAL to NTSC, or when someone puts a PAL format disc in a NTSC console, or NTSC in PAL.

[crashteamalphing]

@Platinumctr also, you never know if the copy is from an original unless you've made it yourself(in the case of your latin american PAL, it's NOT), and since it's not the original CD maybe it could be read differently by console, we already know there are differences in lecture between PS2, PS3 and PSX with the original CD, it's probably worse with a copy. For example maybe there are differences not only with FPS but with the way the game receives the signal from the controller.

[Platinumctr]

@crashteamalphing

Copies are exactly equal, Original CD are copies too, but are Original because Sony do the copies LOL.

Ps2 , Ps3, had a different tecnology that make read different, the olds games.

I have searched in all webs, every web have this " latin american PAL" , I cant found it, the only way is that you make a copy for me.

(is really easy, just put you CD in the PC, open alchool 120 free copy, and upload in megauload free too) it take 10 min to do

[crashteamalphing]

@Platinumctr given that framerates differ from PAL and NTSC, it could mean a world of difference. Also, I don't know how to copy a CD, I can't do it.

Anyway it's not very important because CTR is not a game where everyone starts equal, there are 3 versions and 3 consoles, 9 possibilities, and the one with the best material and best controller / TV wins. So if people use illegal ways to improve a LITTLE, it doesn't make a lot of difference, and it wouldn't be much more unfair.

[Platinumctr]

@crashteamalphing

The Frame Rates are 50, and 60 there arent anothers.

I have tested all version possible, and the only way to play equal of PAL-Europe is setting my console to PAL, or play on PAL console (the same)

Surely pardiez, amaraticando etc version is slower than your, and for that they set to NTSC, ( as equal of NTSC-J cause of Penta)

I just do the inverse way, set a NTSC game to PAL, to get your same version, is hard to understand that is equal?? LOL

[crashteamalphing]

@Platinumctr still, if we don't allow emulator, I don't think we should allow the copies, modified or not.

[Platinumctr]

@crashteamalphing

are you fucking kidding me? XD original discs are copies too, the difference are that you pay for them that dont make sence do that.

[Platinumctr]

@crashteamalphing

I cant understand why anyone copy the original CD in to a Image ISO, and upload it on internet -.- , years per years I try to one person copy it and never anyone do it -.-

[crashteamalphing]

@Platinumctr you can't see differences because you've never played in normal conditions with the original PAL cd and console.

[Platinumctr]

@crashteamalphing

I have a PAL ps1 here, from my cousin of Spain, copy your original CTR PAL and give me, I will show if it better or not.

Using my disc ( that have to press X button at begging to select pal) is still shitter froggy.

[saeed1ksa1]

XD

[Platinumctr]

@crashteamalphing he just download CTR PAL version, and is playing on PSXFIN emulator, in my opinion there is any difference between your version, is possible to reach the same records.

[crashteamalphing]

@Platinumctr In my opinion, you're wrong and there are differences.

[saeed1ksa1]

ok Platinumctr gave me this ask him

i don't know XD

i think no not pal 8)

[crashteamalphing]

Do you have the PAL console ?

Do you have an original PAL copy of CTR ?

If you answered yes to both, you have PAL. Otherwise, you don't.

[saeed1ksa1]

yes XD

[Platinumctr]

you used my cd? or what?

[saeed1ksa1]

why !!

i have this game pal

how you know XD

[crashteamalphing]

this isn't the real PAL version.