Best rock lobsters barraging guide (9 lobsters)

[AogSquireProductions]

How many casts per hour can you achieve?

[gamer360ftw]

rock lob worls pl0x

[mitchell2617]

tyvm :)

[Swaginrags]

i always use max mage, chaotic staff, asn, ext. i like to hit 400+ instead of hitting two 150s with battle robes

[lc2dae]

@Swaginrags .... kk lol cuz i hit same with battle asn and chaotic staff,,, good logic

[Jormukki]

thank you that helped me to get rid of that stupid dagannoth

[dragonatr]

So how much would...say, 2 weeks of doing this cost?

[chrupusek]

@dragonatr well it depends how much do you play daily. some people play 2 hours a day, some people play 12 or more. ^^ you should prepare approx 1.6m for an hour barraging, including prayer potions and repairs

[cripspk88]

Battle Robes are very worth it....full charge on robes takes less than an hour as long as you aren't autistic. ~IXanarchyXI~

[Assault912]

2 words: batlte robes

[chrupusek]

@Assault912 4 more words: are not worth it.

[Assault912]

@chrupusek save 50% of runes when cast, i bought them when the full set is less than 400k, now its expensive now

[chrupusek]

@Assault912 yeah, right. but in the time you are getting tokens to recharge the damn robes you could earn money for 3 times as many runes. :\ and fully charged robes are untradeable afaik

[Assault912]

@chrupusek true

[lc2dae]

@chrupusek they last 10 hrs takes 1 1/2 hrs to recharge and 8m saved in 10 hrs... unless you get lucky you cant average like 5-6m an hr

[deadhalo12]

@lc2dae 1 word: staking

[lc2dae]

@deadhalo12 unless the godz of luck love you ur not winning every time... no guarantee of 6m hr

[deadhalo12]

@lc2dae yeah because i've done 400m in 3 days, and other people have done that in hours -.-

[lc2dae]

@deadhalo12 k risk bank everytime since u always win

[Cr4zyMut5]

@chrupusek they are worth it you are just too lazy to go do FOG either you suck late reply huh? you are ignorant and probably have a low rank in FOG

[chrupusek]

@Cr4zyMut5 When deciding what is worth doing and what is not worth doing, you should include your average time value (eg. 2mil gp/hour) in your calculations. I have done the calcs back when I was barraging (note the vid is from 2008) and also 8 months ago, when the above comment was posted. Both times the conclusion was that it is not worth using battle robes. Idk about now - if you include your own time value in calculations, and use current prices, it might turn out it's actually worth it.

[xheroxabove]

i would highly reccomend staff of light + battle robes to save 60% of runes!

[77p1993]

Would be such a difference set up now.. :L

[exploitted7]

I'm pretty sure that it is now cheaper to burst than barrage because although burst prices are roughly the same, barrage is like 800gp+ more expensive than the time that this vid was made.

[chrupusek]

@exploitted7 Hmm, maybe. I'll have to try out and compare.

[exploitted7]

@chrupusek please do cause im looking to go for 99 mage from 94 in the next week or two and i really need to know which is more cost effective =S i wanna keep it somewhere under 30m though so i really need to know =/

[skullkiller123]

what shud i wear void mage or ahrims... cos ahrims decays and ill be campin there along time.

[chrupusek]

@skullkiller123 I think Ahrims is still ftw. It lasts 16h, it shoudnt be a problem to return quickly when it decays. Use cc "Burstinglobs" to get door help and anti-crash

[HeyYourACheater]

Thanks a lot for the stats

[thunderfool9]

nice guide...but if i go for 99 summoning now...itl cost me about 250m...227m for the bursting lol. =(

[thISxTHplacE]

no it won't...the exp you hit on the lobsters counts as exp, ALONG with the regular casting for a barrage.

[TheRekkrZero]

@thunderfool9 WTF? 227m?! It costs around 60m for 89-96 bursting..calculate again...

[burnwild28]

what lv are you in this vid?

[chrupusek]

@burnwild28

hmm i'm not sure. Either 136 or 137, it was ages ago

[turbonbc]

cheers

[chrupusek]

:))

[realmadridhfg]

how much cash do you spend per hour?

[chrupusek]

@realmadridhfg about 1m not including barrows repairs and prayer potions

[realmadridhfg]

do you spend another 1m including pray pots?

[chrupusek]

@realmadridhfg no, 1m is the cost of runes only. U have to pay for ppots and barrows and ppots cost depends on your prayer bonus and how well and fast u can lure them.

[turbonbc]

what song???

[chrupusek]

Priestess- Lay Down

[xsararangerpkerx]

using a magic/extreme mage pot would allow you to hit higher

[chrupusek]

ik. this guide was made in June 2008.

[Hyperezil]

How upto date is this guide/description, also is it possible to use a familiar down there, such as a wolpertinger to increase mage xp/hr

[chrupusek]

The method is up to date. Gear, inventory and prices in the vid description - I doubt. Now, you can wear heavier equipment as agility updates rendered energy problem obsolete. Method of luring still works (the spot to move 2 last lobsters at once and the way to stop dagannoths following you). Fighting familiar is NOT worth it, because if it attacks any lob (and they often do), this lobster will leave the pile and/or stop following you.

[chrupusek]

Also, with the staff giving 10/15%, extreme magic, magic prayers and all that new stuff, the rates for charms per barrage is also slightly better than stated.

[chrupusek]

When I'm done with maxing my total lvl, I'm going to upload new, updated videos

[realmadridhfg]

btw how many charms you make per hour?

[chrupusek]

@realmadridhfg could you PLEASE read video description BEFORE asking any questions? This could save me like an hour time every day.

[chrupusek]

@realmadridhfg Ive put answers for FAQ for a reason ;$

[dinner140legand]

83 mage bonus here

[kalvin146]

would void mage work better then ahrims you think?

[jazzakazza94]

is that 70 mage bonus thing truE? and if so, is it the same thing with burst?

[chrupusek]

yes.

[jorne45]

is burst not cheaper this moment then barrage plz answer chupusek =)

[chrupusek]

i haven't done the math because im way out of ate on prices and magic potions, magic boosts etc etc, but from what i've been hearing, after all those updates to magic staffs and otions and rune prices (unlimited stock taken out), it is now cheaper to barrage (but still slower)

[omgimownt]

@chrupusek

i've calced 1360/burst and 2300/barrage atm. So burst will be cheaper again i think. (not sure howmuch slower it is)

[sammy8020]

dun bring pots cept for pray and bring holy wrench

[gigantica000]

what if the lobster dont attack me anymore?i used the stairs and logged out for a while.. but didnt work?

[Carllito10]

do you think extreme magics would be a good idea here? im planning a visit to rock lobs soon but idk if i should use extremes, since they only last 6 minutes each dose (i think) thats 24 minutes per pot, like how many pots do you think i should bring?

[chrupusek]

I have no idea how many you shoud take, but its DEFINITELY a good idea.

[MoszHigh]

would mystic be good to use here?

[chrupusek]

as long as you have about 70 magic attack bonus it doesnt matter.

[kangdedde]

hi i wanna make my sum from 88 to 96 about how many barrages would i need? btw great guide:D

[alch3mist785]

So how much 86-94? And how long?

[chrupusek]

Now after numerous updates since I made this video it depends on many conditions. I suggest that you would buy 1k barrages, make extreme magics (if you can) and just see how far it gets you. Lets say, if you need X amount of xp, and from 1k barrages you get Y xp and it cost u Z gp. Divide X/Y, that's how many barrages u need, and then multiply by Z to find out how much it will cost.

good luck

[disjackpot]

algebra finally used irl X[) lol

[Zormo3RS]

Wouldn't waterfiends be a little faster? Besides, in the end you will only have made profit from waterfiends, and rocklobsters is all loss.

How much money would it be for 99 Summoning? Aka 30K Crimsons?

And what is the magic exp a/h here?

Would it be an idea to train magic here? And having the crimsons as a bonus? Or do you suggest me bursting somewhere else then?

Thanks!!

[Zormo3RS]

Wow I am so stupid, didn't read the description, sorry! Nevermind!!! x]

Good guide ! =] Faved + rated 5/5

[chrupusek]

1. No, they wouldn't be faster, unless you piety them with steel titan on a slayer task (which is still little less, and also very costy)

2. yes, you could profit from waterfiends. what method you choose depends on how you value your time. for example, hour of barraging costs X (idk current prices), and you save Y minutes of time. If you can make X or more gp in time Y or less, then you should choose lobs. If you dont udnerstand, please reply once again i'll try to make it clearer.

[chrupusek]

3. how much money? it depends on current prices. Barrages now are VERY costy, since the infinite stock removal. I have spent 140m ish alone on barrages + pray pots + other, and rest is shard cost which is not a lot (maybe about 40m)

4. magic xp p/h is about 200k~, add or take depends if you slack or do it very fast.

5. yes it would be a great idea if you can afford it. bursting in ape atoll dungeon is also good xp but you burn runes and get totally nothing back.

[Zormo3RS]

I understand 2. :p

I can make 1.4M a/h so that won't be any problem.

Going to wait till I can make Extreme magics. + Ancient staff = 50% more damage = twice as cheap as normally =3

[DudefishD]

is it good to use chins on them?

[chrupusek]

no. they have extremely good ranged defence.

[Tingeling9]

Awzome Guide, thanks alot for the help also!:)

[ginomaryno]

Nice guide :)

btw i like the fact that u tell us some stats )

[chrupusek]

thanks :)

[ryanmccraw12rs]

well i just kinda need about 500 crims how many casts of barrage would that take me? on average...

[chrupusek]

2k just to be safe.

[Golddust21]

Is this still a good way to get 99 magic? and good charms?

[chrupusek]

yesir.

[h4br1d0wnz]

how many bursts would you estimate it will take for 80-94 magic?

[okmega9]

around 90k bursts hitting only once. so you estimate 9 hits per burst = 400 xp per burst so thats like 13k bursts or so. = 15m :S

[h4br1d0wnz]

=/ id say 250 xp each burst = like 30m

[bhsfielder08]

no u need at least 94 mage to barrage

[appppppppple]

can i barrage at 73 magic?

[cardenw]

you cant barrage untill level 94, so use ice burst instead if you want

[theofficialretard]

yes you can

lol

[bhsfielder08]

I always wear as much mage att bonus as i can at 119. but i keep full proselyte and fally shield 3 in invo so my prayer bonus gets up to 24 and my ppots will last for 5k+ bursts

[ImABeast54321]

lets say i wanted to barrage for 2k of each charm, except blue, how many barrages would that take ya think?

[FTWinning]

An awsome guide, I firstly thought that bursting is cheaper, but i was wrong. But i got a question, is 70 mage bonus enough for a 89 mager? I can barrage with the boosting scroll of wolpertinger so is 70 mage bonus enough for me?

[chrupusek]

yes, 70 mage is just enough. If you still don't feel comfortable, you can get 80, but more magic bonus is just a waste. It's beter to use prayer gear instead, so you save money.

@Magic lvl: I dont think bothering with wolpertinger is worth it. You can get 94 magic REALLY fast using string jewellery from lunar magics (it gives 140k+ magic xp an hour, ad isn't very expensive, about 3gp per 1xp). Just buy loads of unstrung gold ammies and string with spell. Sell to NPC from Summer End's miniquest

[FTWinning]

But oh well, I have to burst/barrage till 99 from my level at rock lobsters for 96 summoning lol. :(

Might just burst/wolpertinger barrage ;o

[FTWinning]

Another question, I bring Proselyte armours (top and bottom) for luring, and have like 120 mage att bonus when bursting/barraging, do you think it's a good idea because i learned that from other videos.

Thx.

[MORTExSOVRAN]

i have 10k barrages, about how many charms will that get me?

[chrupusek]

all info of this kind is in video description.. people make me hopeless. fyi.. 1k barrage is 300~reds 150 golds 80 greens.

[DanAndAsh2008]

how many barrages for 70-79 please (about) then i will sub, thanks

[zebasrod]

u cant barrage at 70 and if u mean burst its about 5m per 1m xp

[DanAndAsh2008]

70-79 summoning lol

[jellegozer]

nice 5/5 watch me ancient guide to please its @ mummie's :)

[accountswapbot]

Hey, please help me how much would 99 summoning cost me in total roughly, using this + also making the pouchs also im 80sum atm, PLEASE HELP !!!

ALSO WATCH MY VID

THANKS ASB

[hercule50]

oh, by the way. how many blue charms do you get an hr?

[chrupusek]

not too many. it varies a lot. approximately 30 blue per 1k reds, so about 5-6 an hour

[hercule50]

thanks alot for this guide. helped alot with the exp p/hr etc

[dalmatiazadar]

I advise you to change the xp per 1k Barrages. Because it maxes out at 220k-250k xp per 1k.

Otherwise, good guide, the crimsons per 1k are right.

[yousifownsyou]

hmm i always get a pray bonus arm with me to like verac skirt and brassy but many ppl get proselyte to but isn't verac better with def against some things out there

[Trinitysx]

so how much would it cost in overall barraging

and how much would bursting cost

[chrupusek]

not much difference in costs. barrage MAY be little more expensive its still a lot faster. But in the long run the difference in costs between burst and barrage are very little.

[isub4eva]

I've done the math for about 74-88 summoning and it will cost me about 28,691,227 from granite lobs to 83 and daggonoths till 88 so how many ice barrage you think i would need to get all the charms for this? It is about 10086 crimisons in total i need. Please help :)

[chrupusek]

About 30k-ish (little less than that) barrages. And that's only if you don't make pouches of gold/green/blue charms which you should.

And btw, don't make dagannoths. You lose a lot of gp on these. you should do lobs until swamp titans and then them until iron titans.

[pkmager1441]

id reccomend mitre instead of verac helm. just saying

[chrupusek]

yep, this is a very good idea. thank you.

[slipknot3332]

barrage cost 3326 each

burst cost 1192 each

so i don't think barrages good

[chrupusek]

major fail at math?

burst: 4 chaos 138gp + 2 death 305gp + 4 water 16gp = 1226gp

barrage: 4 death 305gp + 2 blood 341gp + 6 water 16gp = 1996gp

i'd like to see your math teacher please.

[courage223]

this is actually a reply to an earlier comment of yours, but it will work better here... :)

Use the ancient staff to kill the last few - as a crush weapon, it hits decently hard on the lobbies

~Courage~

[FuryzPKz]

-.- prices change over time so stfu

[chrupusek]

please behave, even when commenting a video :/ Prices change and I am aware of this. You'd know that if you took the time to read vid description. Prices change, but the main rates that determine efficiency don't (because all the prices change, not only for 1 method). One method may be slightly more efficient due to GE price fluctuations, but sitll in the long run the proportions don't change. I have determined the most efficient way.

[wtfstopthat]

So is barraging still cheaper than bursting, I get 260 crim charms per 1k bursts on average

[littleazn17]

terrible gear

[chrupusek]

Gratz on your reading level 99! You should first read WHY I use this gear, and then comment. This is, actually better than max mage (no difference in hits, because rock lobsters are ALREADY mega magic-weak so you can use more prayer bonus)

[kangdedde]

i don't like the ladder spot why should you use that 1 if the other 1 is mutch faster?

[tirthpatel10]

ok thx man im trying to get 94 magice im 91 atm u think ican get about 250 chrimson with bursting them

[aihema]

u can no problem if u have a good mage setup

[tirthpatel10]

can u tell me how maney chrimson u get in 1k barrage thank you

[chrupusek]

300-350 per 1k barrages is average. But it varies a lot, from 250 to even 400, depends on how lucky you are. Sometimes you may find that 1k barrages got you 270 charms, sometimes 400.

and dont forget that you get two gold and one green on average for every 4 reds.

[aihema]

personally i get 350-400 per 1k barrages and i use the ladder spot

didint like how u barraged even the last one i just use my sgs to kill it

also i like to barrage with 110-120 mage bonus i feel at 70 u cant hit well at all

[chrupusek]

yeah, using a melee weapon to kill last one is a good idea, but sgs is too heavy for me. you waste too much energy. whip is just fine. as for the magic bonus, well it''s your choice, but I see no reason why you should use ladder spot - it's further and trickier to use.

[aihema]

with the run update included and my agility level energy is not a problem.

also with using the ladder spot personally its more easy as you dont get spawned on and its really easy to manover them arround the bend and u can trap them on the bend

there is these spots

ladder spot "what i prefer to use"

across from the ladder spot

at the bend

at the bottom of the bend "what you show in vid"

[mat364RuneScape]

Ok, Ok, thankyou very much xd

[mat364RuneScape]

ehm, okay ^^,

but,,

what are the recuirements?

[chrupusek]

94 mage for barrage, and 70 for burst. completed desert treaure, of course. high prayer and def is an advantage.

[vakeraypivotlover]

70 mage.. my is only 67 almost 68 :|

[mat364RuneScape]

Howmuch does it cost / h?

Barraging and bursting.

[chrupusek]

barraging is almost 1m an hour (Depends on respawn time, and wheter if you are focues or not, and few more factors)

bursting - i'm not 100% sure but I would estimate about 800k an hour. other factors apply here as well.

[mat364RuneScape]

I see that this is a VERY good guide,

Thanks for the information, 6/5

Favo + subscribed,

keep doing this good work ^^

[chrupusek]

ty, ty :))

[0wnagefactory]

could some1 estimate how much 80-96summ would cost when barragin+ seconds, please?

[bazokapk3r]

omg finally a barrage guide that gives me all the info that i need. other guides r for noobs :D

THX, 5/5, faved, and subbed

[chrupusek]

thanks :) i'm really happy to read this comment :)

[0hubba0]

No problem, I subscribed too. :)

[0hubba0]

I agree that barraging is better.

I only need 99 mage for max combat skills and i'm barraging.

Bursting is 150k xp per 1k bursts and Barraging is 300k for 1k barrages.

10k barrages is 17mil and thats 3mil xp.

10k bursts is 10mil and thats 1.5mil xp.

If you ask me, that means barraging is better?

Nice guide by the way. :)

[chrupusek]

finally someone who understands why barraging is better - not only for charms but magic xp. thanks for watching, im glad you liked it.

[Spectrober65]

omfg i only need 94 mage to do this l0l

make a 94 maging guide then ill subscribe ;D

i really want barrage

[Pk3dut0d4y]

wat familiar shud i do from 54-70 and im about to do this now iwth barrage...im 800k xp away from 99 mage.

[danonek3]

how much 88 - 99 ? only magic cost i need :p

[chrupusek]

lol danon >,> 1 magic xp with barrage costs about 6,4gp, add or take 1, depending on current rune cost. work out how much xp do you need and voila.

[tonychet2s]

how much 92 - 96???

[chrupusek]

magic or summoning? If summoning, it highly depends on which familiars you will make. I put most important data in in vid description. Just work out how much exp you need to get. Divide by the exp you get by making 1 pouch. What you get is the amount of pouches you need to make. Then multiply this value by the cost of making 1 pouch (cost of shards + 2nd and getting the charm - i estimate about 6-7k per) - thats how much.

[rsmohib333]

kl song

[chrupusek]

ty :D

[XxRaNgErZxX]

why did you bring chaos runes?

[chrupusek]

blood burst. it is just enough to heal, no need to spend extra for souls just to heal.

[XxRaNgErZxX]

i figured that out 5 mins later :O

[Aleyx19]

Nice guide :)

i'm on sum 99, 89 atm.

Are swamp titans still the best pouch for training? or isnt it all in all cheaper to do granit lobster pouches?

[chrupusek]

yeah, it would be a good idea to do granite lobsters instead of swamp titans. I'm not really into the GE prices right now, but I am 90% sure that making granite lobs will be cheaper. The question is - is granite 500g buyable off ge? If you aren't too patient you might want to do a mix of these - granite with what you will be able to buy, and swamp titans with the rest of charms. That's what I did :P

[Aleyx19]

Ty =)

[agentgfh]

dont worry about buying granite it is really easy to buy

[jumpthenoob]

do you ever make money? like do halfkeys take out some of the cost?

[chrupusek]

You definitely dont make any money here. But yeah, ranarrs, half keys, pure ess etc is worth picking up (if you have space, of course) - it adds up in the long run. It isn't significant, but it doesnt cost anything to pick it up - you lose hardly any time doing that

[gaara2pooge]

dude u obviously have like 300mill worth of stuff in ur inventory

[chrupusek]

I highly doubt it would add up to 300m; 1 trip is worth few mills.

[aintgatmon3y37]

4/5 cuz we dont get anything of what you say and cuz we dont know where u r and how you got there

[chrupusek]

thx 4 ze feedback but if u wer smart enuf you wud see everything i say in the vid description (and believe me, I re-typed everything from chat straight to the box to the right). Also I would like to point out, that best guides are for most experienced users. Part "how to get here" is a good part, but in guides for total newbies.

Before you comment next time - read vid description. thanks for watching.

[Run3scaped]

Hehe you totaly owned him;)

[rsmohib333]

<3 song gd vid 5/5

[chrupusek]

thanks :D

[TheBigStupidHead]

awesome guide =D even though i dont do summoning lol

[chrupusek]

thanks :)

[ssaad786]

I've heard you can get up to 9 lobsters at the ladder spot which seems to be safer.

[chrupusek]

TECHNICALLY it is possible, but if you go 1 square north too far (which happens very often, you have to walk near the southern wal of the corridor), 2 of them wander off. It would require a lot of patience to perfect this method, and the benefits aren't worth it, tbh. Plus, you have to spend the extra time on each group to run further (it adds up in the long run). I'd recommend the spot shown on vid, but it's up to you really, and where you feel more comfortable.

[WhycantImakeausernam]

Im guessing you only need 70 mage bonus for bursting as well cause its a lower magic level req hm?

[chrupusek]

I haven't tested this myself, but I would guess so. Since 70 is ok for barrage, it should be perfectly fine for burst.

[malta071]

great guide 5/5

[apie106]

i was doing that and i was getting my 9e rock lobster and then something hitted 30 on my?!?

no jokes im not kidding or something

[chrupusek]

Assuming you had protect melee prayer on, you could be harmed by ranged or magic attacks. It is possible, that wallasalki could hit you 30, but the most I got hit by it was 23 (and it only happened once). Wallasalkis have terrible accuracy, so don't worry. I spent total of about 70 hours down there, and it only happened once. That's what blood burst is for.

[apie106]

mmkay thanks dude

[majorlg]

very nice guide. and great method for keeping the dags off you.

[majorlg]

best rock lob vid tbh, i suggest it for anyone wanting fast charms/mage xp.

[chrupusek]

Thanks. I'm glad I could help you. :)

[luisacer89]

gr8 guide. 2 bad u didnt show or explain how to get there o.o... i guess ill search for more videos :)

[chrupusek]

"getting there" is very annoying for (semi) experienced players, because most of them already know it. (at least for me it is, in videos). Also, my internet connection is very poor and I barely managed to get this video uploaded :P

thanks for the feedback, though. I'm glad you liked the video.