not for nothing, a quarter of a million people have viewed this after almost 50 years- the movies got it all and is much better than people give it credit for-
its small minded to argue the race of a person who lived so long ago... like it acually matters, one must correct the racisim in archeologies past however to get a true vision of the past, Her ethnicity was almost certianly mixed to some degree, although Royal bloodlines are kept by inbreeding, Egypt was multi cultural multi ethnic, people from all over the old world lived there for thousands of years, in those times one's ethnicity did not matter at all.
its small minded to argue the race of a person who lived so long ago... like it acually matters, one must correct the racisim in archeologies past however to get a true vision of the past, Her ethnicity was almost certianly mixed to some degree, although Royal bloodlines are kept by inbreeding, Egypt was multi cultural multi ethnic, people from all over the old world lived there for thousands of years, in those times one's ethnicity did not matter at all.
I havnt seen many Liz Taylor movies but this one is my favorite!This movie changed the world with its new view on sex,race,and the way movies are made. Elizabeth Taylor back then was fine as HELL! Its pretty sad that shes gone now The world has truly lost a legend. Rest In Peace Miss Taylor.
i think it's all silly to worry about what color Cleopatra was. this isn't a historical documentary so let's all just enjoy the entertainment value, huh? i think more than half the allure of this movie was the backdrop affair of Burton and Taylor. that's where the magic comes from--- also from the larger than life tepestuous force that was Elizabeth Taylor. she lived her life and boy did she not give a damn what anyone thought about it. she was a gorgeous woman, no photoshop there.. .
i think it's all silly to worry about what color Cleopatra was. this isn't a historical documentary so let's all just enjoy the entertainment value, huh? i think more than half the allure of this movie was the backdrop affair of Burton and Taylor. that's where the magic comes from--- also from the larger than life tepestuous force that was Elizabeth Taylor. she lived her life and boy did she not give a damn what anyone thought about it. she was a gorgeous woman, no photoshop there...
@mrcheekycheeks Ceaser and Cleopatra ... yes they were in the same period of time ... if you mean achillies the Geek Hero ... No he was thousands of years before them.
Somebody who bathe in milk doesn't mean the person was white. The romans were not white people. Stop assuming that romans were white. U need to look up who the etruscans were. Not some white people. That's who the romans descended from. They were multicultural people. Only people the greeks and romans describe as whites were barbarians from the north.
What I said aboutt he milk is that it is a natural skin whitener. So even if she did have a natural bit of colour in her, she would still look like a white person.
All the murals, statues, mosaics and depictions of Romans show plainly Caucasian people. Yes, some were not white like you were saying, but Cleo's lovers and her family appeared to be of Caucasian stock.
Of course they don't have the same feature, so he was describing their skin tone which was dark brown. The ancient elamites and sumerians were cousin. Do not be fool by those fake artifacts we see going around claiming these were the sumerians. All of them were done during the 20th century by this europeon guy. I forgot his name. But they are fake. Nobody for sure know 100% what they look like. Just assumption. From what i heard they probably never did existed.
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They stated that she was african. Remember this was done by a group of danish archaelogists not africans. Since believe in the skull shape theory what's an african and what's not. Cleopatra sister name was arsinoe. They stated that they both from the same mother. I doubt their father was african. It's more likely he had it with a native egyptian woman. Remember alot of the people in modern day lower egypt have alot of greco roman blood in them. Especially the copts them.
That is actually incorrect. Cleopatra and Arsinoe had different mothers. Also, it is a scientific fact that skulls are not good indicators of what race you are. That's why scientists at National Geographic had a hard time pinpointing his exact skin colour and instead chose one based on depictions of him.
Also, there is no conclusive evidence to show that the Ptolemies married or produced children with Native Egyptians. It's highly unlikely given how much they intermarried.
actually for Greek blood you have to go back 300 years. Her ancestors included Greek, Macedonian, Egyptian and Syrian bloodlines. She was neither black nor white, she was Middle Eastern and northern African. There are more people on this planet than black and white. Ignorance is prejudice.
Even if She was been of full Egyptian ancestry, Egyptians are a Mediterranean People- proved by paleo-archeol. paintings, sculpture engraving - a Mediterranean North Africa People for thousands of years.
Even King Tut much before and his family had R1b Iberian-Mediterranean-Western-European Y Cromossome (DNA Haplogroup.) They had also over the time People from South, North, West, East - more blacks or more Whites whatever.
Continents, Regions and Seas are geographies, not races.
elizabeth taylor was so so gorgeous back then.she's one of my favourite actresses of all time along with vivien leigh,audrey,marilyn and some others...true legend <3
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@MrLorraine210 ok but they have cleopatra 3d coming out in 2011 and angelina jolie is playing cleopatra she is only white and not greek or egyptian blood . they should cast a black woman like nicki minaj or beyonce
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Her family were Eygptian Royalty ( and Eygpt is in Africa) that's were she was born and her skin tone was darker than Greeks. She teamed up with them ,but she wasn't a part of them. So yeah she was Black.
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@birch241 no she was half greek and half black. some people are always trying to make her fully white.her skin was darker than the greeks. they neva show her mom cuz she was black and so was her sister
No. Her father was Macedonian like the rest of the Ptolemies. Cleopatra's mother is not known, but suspected to be Cleopatra V Tryphaena.
The Ptolemies did not marry the Native Egyptians, but preferred to marry their own siblings. The very few times they did not intermarry, they always did so with people outside of Egypt. Cleopatra's grandmother was Persian, and the Persians are white skinned people.
Also, the nobility of Egypt during their time was Macedonian.
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@bjnboy That's a bunch of BS. Nobody knows the truth, cuz people didn't write down anything back then. Most of what we call history or his story was created by a jesuit priest over the last 300 yrs. Most of history is made up. Racism was never a big thing back then cuz they was none to begin with. SInce all form of racism is from modern day europeons which are Germanic tribe descent. The greeks were a multicultural people. No the persians were not white. That's BS. They were like dravidian
I know that racism did not exist back then like it did, but classism, ethnic pride and which empire you were from did matter.
The Greeks today are multicultural people, but back then it was a lot more homogenous. The Ptolemies certainly fought to keep it that way.
And yes, MANY Persians I know and have seen with my own eyes and heard with my own ears are white-skinned. Look at Soraya Esfandiary. Many others also have differing shades of brown.
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@bjnboy No it was not homogenous back then. Even herodotus stated that. It's the egyptians who went up into greece and founded the colonies. That's where before the dorian greeks migrated out of the north. Then later would mixed with the people. The greeks and just like the romans were mixed people. Not trying to say they were jet black or anything. Some of them probably look like barack obama. In between type of thing. Some yrs ago they found the body of cleopatra sista in turkey.
They MAY have have been mixed, but given the Greeco-Romanic's culture of xenophobia... they would not have done so too often. The Romans were particularly xenophobic, so much so that marriage to a foreigner outside of the Empire was not recognised at all. If you look at their features in mosaics and sculptures, you will see caucasian or light olive-skinned people.
Also, there is nothing fully concrete to show that the remains found were actually of Cleopatra's sister, Arsinoe.
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@bjnboy U keep forgetting that modern day persians are not ancient persians. Most of them are mixed with other europeon group. Persia rule over alarge portion of what we call asia. They rule armenia, georgia. Those are located near russia. Some of the modern day persians might be of these ethnic group. Persians would of look alot more like the dravidian that we see in southern india. Don't be fool by the hollywood nonsense movies depicting ancient people. Elamites were also persians.
@Thutmosis7: You also make two unwarranted assumptions: 1. You assume that Elamite and Dravidian are related. This is possible but hardly proven. 2. You assume the Dravidians have always been the people they are today. It's possible that the Dravidians of southern India have mixed with darker skinned Australasian speakers still present in India. In any event, the Persians recounted by the Greeks--probably a disproportionate share of the nobility--often had light hair and eyes.
@tommy9911 Dude the persians were black people. The people who once occupy what we call iran today were dark brown in skin color. The dravidian didn't mixed. That's their color. They are the original people of india. The one in the north are invaders. According to herodotus he said they were two type of ethiopians one in africa and the other in india. The Elamites were the original people of Ur or mesopatamia before the hook nose arabs eurasian type arabs came on the scene. Elamites were black
@Thutmosis7: The original people of Ur were Sumerians. What little we know about them suggests they looked much like modern denizens of the Mideast. The Persians proper spoke an Indo-European language like the Celts, Germans, most non-Dravidian Indians, Balts, Italics, Greeks, etc. We don't know much about the appearance of pre-Persian inhabitants of Iran, but DNA studies of Elamites indicate a preponderance of y-DNA haplotype J, common to groups like Jews and Arabs. Rudi Bakhtiar is not black.
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@tommy9911 They look nothing like modern day people in the middle east. U are assuming. Actually the middle east people were black back then. Whether were african or not. Black is not just an african thing. According to herodotus if he existed, there are two type of ethiopians. One with wooly hair and the other with straight hair. He describe the people living in arabia, middle east, africa and asia being same. Only thing that some of them just with different texture of hair.
@tommy9911 If the story of nimrod approve to be true. Then the bible is right. It claim nimrod was a kushite or ethiopian. He built babylon which is modern day iraq. The kushites are from modern day sudan/ethiopia. The semitic language actually origin in ethiopia/eritrea area. Not yemen or western arabia. It only prove that it was africans who came out of the nile valley and went up into mesopatamia and created civilization there. Until they were conquered by eurasian people from the north.
@tommy9911 If it's false then, herodotus is just a myth then. I doubt it's false. It's possible base off a real individual. According to herodotus he describe the kushite empire expanding to indus valley. He describe the egyptians and the ethiopians as the same people. He also stated about a ethnic group of people living somewhere in southern russia, modern day Georgia as being black too. According to euronuts he is the father of history. So are we to take his word or not?
I know they would have had different features than they have now, but even then they had white skinned Persians. Just look up pictures of Atoosa, daughter of Cyrus the Great. She is white. In fact, a lot of ancient murals and recent paintings of Persian history, show white or very light skinned people.
Also, in regards to Cleo's skin colour, remember, she took daily milk baths. Milk is a natural skin whitener. It wasn't fashionable int he Greco-Roman world to be tanned.
@bjnboy Reason why you had white persians cuz they were not real persians. Persia rule over vast area that had lighter skin people. Some of them were part of the army of persia. But they were not native persians. The persians were more darker in skin tone. They are more related to dravidian or should say the other way around. No the greeks weren't white. They were mixed people. Africans meaning ethiopians long settle in greece islands long before the dorian greeks storm down from the north.
Then why would the Royal Family of Persia and the nobility intermarry with those people who were not of true Persian stock? It was not done in any part of the world really.
And yes, the Greeks were Caucasian. They had pale olive skin and dark hair.
Also, historical records indicate that Cleo had reddish-brown hair and hazel eyes.
Not only do you get to watch a great epic movie w/2 of hollywoods most fascinating actors of their day. You can also read great comments left here by ethnologists&Egyptologists.
She was 21 years old, bold as brass, very deliberate and among the best educated people of her day. Here she petitions Caesar for sole right to rule in Egypt. He was 50 years old.
@holyvocation Except the Ptolemaic Dynasty WAS Hellenistic, meaning it was under great Greek influence after Alexander the Great's Macedonian Empire fell.
Kemet, (Khēmía) as also Dechret (red land - desert; as oposed and complementary to Kemet - along the Nile) as t3-mry(of the River), Ta-Mehew as Hight and Low Egypt Ta-Sheme'aw (land of the south and Delta)Ta-Mehew (land of the North) .
Libians-Berbers were white and are in North Africa for thousands and thousands of years along the Mediterranean- as other Peoples whatever is tone of color - in Eurasian and Afro-asiatic space.
As the Iberians were European(and if not part North African) but no nordics, as Celtic People were a pan-culture or spirituality of Peoples and not all reds or nordics or brown air on particular.
As around Africa and Mediterranean space were Peoples of many origins and colors, from dark to white.
It was indeed Pompey´s head. Plutarch and Suetonius said so. The Romans and Caesar were infuriated. This fact was why the Alexandria´s War begon. (Excuse my English.) Later Mark Antony and Cleopatra died one by suicide and the other by self-assisted murder. Like Caton. We must continue to study history...
I live in Egypt and the majority of Egyptians have skin or color which means if Egypt was white then it was conquered by blacks. Or it means that Egypt was black and later conquered by whites which still explains why Egyptians have skin of color. If Whites owned Egypt or Africa they would have never left! They came, they went.
@Applebaum Yes, I can say what I want and by the way, what it was!
Neither mediterraneans and around Mediterranean world, north, south and east, or at least many of them did not look like northern europeans or central africans.
@Applebaum Neither as central Africans. They look like modern Egyptians and all Berbers and all ancient North Africans - ancient Mediterranean and North African peoples.
Cleopatra is indeed an eye catcher. Imagine that I stumble upon this video. Two thumbs up on this. She is really a history's mystery. Just days ago, I've just found this too online. Take a trip down the Nile and experience the mysteries of ancient Egypt at jackpotslot(dot)co(dot)uk ! Cleopatra is a 20-line slot game packed with exotic flavour, including the seductive voice of Cleopatra herself. No wonder Cleopatra is one of the world's most popular games.
It's really quite sad. Some people have invested so much false pride in the misconceived notion that Cleopatra was black that any time anyone posts anything about the Egyptian queen inevitably the topic comes up. The tragedy is when another nation's grandeur is co-opted by another group in the hopes of enhancing itself. And I ask, are you all so historically bankrupt that you have to steal another culture's accomplishments in order to makes yourselves feel better?
You are of course absolutely right, DoctorMirabilis!
The historical evidence clearly indicates that the Greek Ptolemaic Dynasty inbreed with only their own kind and didn't mix with native Egyptians.
All the morons claiming here that Cleopatra might have been a "mulatto" or mixed should e-mail Dr. Zahi Hawass, one of the world's leading Egyptologists, and ask him what he thinks!
@historytroy162 Where did you read that piece of pseudo-historical garbage? Cleopatra VII Philopator mother was Queen Cleopatra Tryphaena, wife and sister of Ptolemy XII Auletes.
@PubliusQuintilius The most recent discoveries show that Cleopatra might actually have had Egyptian blood. Her SISTER was part African. This means that Cleopatra's ancestors did indeed mix with the Egyptian people. What I don't get is why this is such a big deal. Blood or no, she was first and foremost Egyptian in heart. Source: BBC
@xjennaee Wait, you mean the so-called "discovery" of Arsinoe's skeleton in Ephesus and that the bones suggested that the younger sister of Cleopatra was of mixed race? Well, that "discovery" is nothing more than a piece of pseudo-scientific gibberish.
First, Arsinoe was indeed supposed to have been murdered on the steps of the temple of Diana in Ephesus, and the Octagon (which was found in the 1920s) is a rather grand tomb which can be dated stylistically to the first century BC. But there is nothing more than that to link the tomb and the princess. There is no surviving name on the tomb and the claims that the shape was meant to evoke the shape of the lighthouse of Alexandria is just contrived supposition.
Second, the skeleton itself doesn't survive intact. The crucial skull, on which the ethnic arguments are based, was lost in the second world war. The new conclusions (including a mock up of Arsinoe's face) rely on the measurements of the skull left by the first excavators. The remaining bones are said to be those of a 15-18 year old; when Arsinoe was in her mid-20s when she died.
@officialknadatdeal You are delusional, pal. Cleopatra being "black" or "half black" is a modern African American myth! Cleopatra was not black, nor she was African or an Egyptian. She was Greek! And therefore Cleopatra being portrayed as white is entirely based upon historical fact. Along with ancient coins and statues that portray her as white, we also have the testimony of the roman poet Horace (65-8 BC) who wrote that Queen Cleopatra's skin was "as white as alabaster".
@officialknadatdeal Moreover, it is known that the Ptolemaic heirs were the products of incestuous Greek-Macedonian relationships aka WHITE European, not mixed blacks. This is well documented among the Ptolemies own records. Cleopatra's mother (Cleopatra Tryphaena) and paternal grandmother's heritage are well known. Her mother was her father's cousin and her paternal grandmother was her paternal grandfather's sister, both were of the Ptolemaic lineage.
@PubliusQuintilius they was white but cleopatra was half black like her sister. you just trying to make one of the greatest women in history white dfck
@officialknadatdeal First, I'm not racist. I just don't like to see history hijacked by Afrocentric ideologues with an axe to grind. Second, the so-called "discovery" of Arsinoe's tomb in Ephesus has been rejected by every serious scholar for the following reasons: there is no surviving name on the tomb; the bones found are of a young girl in her teens, while Arsinoe was in her late twenties when she died; skull measurements are not a reliable indicator of race/ethnicity.
vaya esta pelicula es hermosa
Jahty80909 1 week ago
Cleopatra es muy hermosa
Jahty80909 1 week ago
por favor ese romano debe cortarse la barba!!!
Jahty80909 1 week ago
me pregunto que pasara en la parte 4:19
Jahty80909 1 week ago
oooh el faraon umm creo que tiene que ser mas amigable
Jahty80909 1 week ago
the pharaoh's a whiny little brat, isn't he?
japaneseladysamurai 3 weeks ago
this kid is an idiot, and really annoying. I would've killed him too.
Rosesandpearls92 2 months ago
Subscribed.
turtlewings 2 months ago
thats right, caesar's cool. It's because he is Henry Higgins !
ccalimogo 2 months ago 3
i love how she comes out of the rug
237cupcake 2 months ago
not for nothing, a quarter of a million people have viewed this after almost 50 years- the movies got it all and is much better than people give it credit for-
ThePiscean60 3 months ago
3:30 where'd he get the cotton candy?
MissCeo3000 4 months ago
@MissCeo3000 LOL XD
japaneseladysamurai 3 weeks ago
Hammy utter Hollywood crap and rubbish
BRUTUALTRUTH 4 months ago
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its small minded to argue the race of a person who lived so long ago... like it acually matters, one must correct the racisim in archeologies past however to get a true vision of the past, Her ethnicity was almost certianly mixed to some degree, although Royal bloodlines are kept by inbreeding, Egypt was multi cultural multi ethnic, people from all over the old world lived there for thousands of years, in those times one's ethnicity did not matter at all.
phoboskitty 5 months ago
its small minded to argue the race of a person who lived so long ago... like it acually matters, one must correct the racisim in archeologies past however to get a true vision of the past, Her ethnicity was almost certianly mixed to some degree, although Royal bloodlines are kept by inbreeding, Egypt was multi cultural multi ethnic, people from all over the old world lived there for thousands of years, in those times one's ethnicity did not matter at all.
phoboskitty 5 months ago 2
ruler of the upper regions...and of the lower regions...i cannot believe they would introduce a pharoah so :L
swansong95 6 months ago
the pharoh kid is such a pansey ass
annie57g 6 months ago 5
Is it me or is Caesar kinda cool?
pierreg666 7 months ago 27
@pierreg666 Rex Harrison as Caesar was the only actor in this cast who got nominated for an Oscar this year--Best Actor nomination
lray1948 4 months ago 6
will someone make the kid .... i mean the pharoh shut up!!?!?!
TheLatinagodess 7 months ago
...an exalted rank, attained not without certain, shall we say, sacrifice. LMAO.
plop262 7 months ago
elizabeth was amazing in this she was so lucky 2 get the part of cleopatra
237cupcake 7 months ago
@garden2010city I think he was a eunuch.
zabdef 7 months ago
Caesar : " you all look so impressive , anyone could be a kind" LOL
MsBambinka 7 months ago
Egypcian advisor on the left looks like faggot..
garden2010city 8 months ago
Thanks to the brave who uploaded this film. The twentieth century cinema wouldn't had been what it is without this movie.
Gracias desde Mexico.
abuealfonso10 9 months ago
I want to punch the kid pharaoh in the face.
Mokkari77 9 months ago 3
@Mokkari77 You and me both my friend.....You and me both
pierreg666 7 months ago
I havnt seen many Liz Taylor movies but this one is my favorite!This movie changed the world with its new view on sex,race,and the way movies are made. Elizabeth Taylor back then was fine as HELL! Its pretty sad that shes gone now The world has truly lost a legend. Rest In Peace Miss Taylor.
SuperCadillacdude 9 months ago
one side of her hair is longer then the other ....
NIghtRider805 9 months ago
the way she came out of that rug was so laame the scene in cleopatra 1999 was waaay better
dacutegirl1 10 months ago 2
@dacutegirl1 no it was a great scene
237cupcake 10 months ago
@dacutegirl1 ikr
annemolly57 6 months ago
The Ptolemy is annoying :P
Noeli51501 10 months ago
Funny to see Romans and Egyptians speaking English!!! And an American Cleopatra!!!! Yet, Liz Taylor is beauuuuutiful.....!
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i think it's all silly to worry about what color Cleopatra was. this isn't a historical documentary so let's all just enjoy the entertainment value, huh? i think more than half the allure of this movie was the backdrop affair of Burton and Taylor. that's where the magic comes from--- also from the larger than life tepestuous force that was Elizabeth Taylor. she lived her life and boy did she not give a damn what anyone thought about it. she was a gorgeous woman, no photoshop there.. .
MonaFabuleux 11 months ago
i think it's all silly to worry about what color Cleopatra was. this isn't a historical documentary so let's all just enjoy the entertainment value, huh? i think more than half the allure of this movie was the backdrop affair of Burton and Taylor. that's where the magic comes from--- also from the larger than life tepestuous force that was Elizabeth Taylor. she lived her life and boy did she not give a damn what anyone thought about it. she was a gorgeous woman, no photoshop there...
MonaFabuleux 11 months ago 2
epic movie
Apink420 11 months ago
it doesn't make sense that the servants would be wearing the royal head dress...
PaparazziDinosaurXo 11 months ago 2
i really don't think achillies, ceaser, and cleopatra were all around at the same time, were they?
mrcheekycheeks 11 months ago
@mrcheekycheeks Ceaser and Cleopatra ... yes they were in the same period of time ... if you mean achillies the Geek Hero ... No he was thousands of years before them.
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Somebody who bathe in milk doesn't mean the person was white. The romans were not white people. Stop assuming that romans were white. U need to look up who the etruscans were. Not some white people. That's who the romans descended from. They were multicultural people. Only people the greeks and romans describe as whites were barbarians from the north.
Thutmosis7 11 months ago
@Thutmosis7
What I said aboutt he milk is that it is a natural skin whitener. So even if she did have a natural bit of colour in her, she would still look like a white person.
All the murals, statues, mosaics and depictions of Romans show plainly Caucasian people. Yes, some were not white like you were saying, but Cleo's lovers and her family appeared to be of Caucasian stock.
bjnboy 11 months ago
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Of course they don't have the same feature, so he was describing their skin tone which was dark brown. The ancient elamites and sumerians were cousin. Do not be fool by those fake artifacts we see going around claiming these were the sumerians. All of them were done during the 20th century by this europeon guy. I forgot his name. But they are fake. Nobody for sure know 100% what they look like. Just assumption. From what i heard they probably never did existed.
Thutmosis7 11 months ago
CLEOPATRA= WHITE
NEFERTITI= BLACK
POINT BLANK PERIOD!
Sims2archive 11 months ago
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its histoical fact Cleopatra was of darker complexion no one knows if she was african or of middle eastern decent
JohannaGotTalent41 11 months ago
thumbs up if you're watching this because this beautiful actress past away yesterday
parmosi 11 months ago 57
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They stated that she was african. Remember this was done by a group of danish archaelogists not africans. Since believe in the skull shape theory what's an african and what's not. Cleopatra sister name was arsinoe. They stated that they both from the same mother. I doubt their father was african. It's more likely he had it with a native egyptian woman. Remember alot of the people in modern day lower egypt have alot of greco roman blood in them. Especially the copts them.
Thutmosis7 11 months ago
@Thutmosis7
That is actually incorrect. Cleopatra and Arsinoe had different mothers. Also, it is a scientific fact that skulls are not good indicators of what race you are. That's why scientists at National Geographic had a hard time pinpointing his exact skin colour and instead chose one based on depictions of him.
Also, there is no conclusive evidence to show that the Ptolemies married or produced children with Native Egyptians. It's highly unlikely given how much they intermarried.
bjnboy 11 months ago 4
very sad day
diablomid 11 months ago
farewell Liz The most beautiful woman in the world of all time. No one will be equal before and forever.
diablomid 11 months ago
RIP Elisabeth Taylor!!
luvbites23 11 months ago
RIP Legend
Olivia2011ish 11 months ago
RIP, Elizabeth Taylor.
paperkite03 11 months ago
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ido not know why white people lie just to be apart of something. take credit for other people work. they did the same thing to native americans
90rashad 11 months ago
I like Caesar, he gets right to the point.
spencnaz 1 year ago
So What? All that means is that she didn't say "Motherfucker" all the time, drink Schlitz Malt Liquor, or have really stupid looking hair!
skudaarkaat1 1 year ago
that must suck having to carry someone around like that
pink21413 1 year ago 2
i love dr hawass books! he is awsome!!! <3
MsFrenchielover 1 year ago 5
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actually for Greek blood you have to go back 300 years. Her ancestors included Greek, Macedonian, Egyptian and Syrian bloodlines. She was neither black nor white, she was Middle Eastern and northern African. There are more people on this planet than black and white. Ignorance is prejudice.
MaryRMinCanada 1 year ago
that pharaoh is so fail..he should be killed
TheJudgeMan1 1 year ago
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If you read your history you would find out he did die.
loveMCRlove 1 year ago
Great movie.It;s funny how no one actually looks egyptian.
blossoms256 1 year ago
I hope Jolie's Cleopatra will focus more on Cleopatra the daughter, sister, monarch,intellectual, mother and philosopher and less on the bedroom.
HistoryLover1550 1 year ago 4
Caesar was appalled when Pompey's head was brought to him, yet inside relieved cause no one could point a finger at him saying he killed Pompey.
HistoryLover1550 1 year ago
For anyone interested, read Stacy Schiff's new book "Cleopatra A Life" Angelina Jolie's signed on to play the queen in a movie based off it.
HistoryLover1550 1 year ago
Even if She was been of full Egyptian ancestry, Egyptians are a Mediterranean People- proved by paleo-archeol. paintings, sculpture engraving - a Mediterranean North Africa People for thousands of years.
Even King Tut much before and his family had R1b Iberian-Mediterranean-Western-European Y Cromossome (DNA Haplogroup.) They had also over the time People from South, North, West, East - more blacks or more Whites whatever.
Continents, Regions and Seas are geographies, not races.
Luso515PorTuoGraal 1 year ago 7
I WANT THAT CAT
Gingie4life 1 year ago 3
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all yall on these pages just probaly washed up racists trying to deny the fact she was half black smh dumb broads
officialknadatdeal 1 year ago
elizabeth taylor was so so gorgeous back then.she's one of my favourite actresses of all time along with vivien leigh,audrey,marilyn and some others...true legend <3
fanofmussic 1 year ago 58
who cares
MrLorraine210 1 year ago
how do you watch anything.some of you worry about nothing but skin color.it's a movie
MrLorraine210 1 year ago 4
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@MrLorraine210 ok but they have cleopatra 3d coming out in 2011 and angelina jolie is playing cleopatra she is only white and not greek or egyptian blood . they should cast a black woman like nicki minaj or beyonce
officialknadatdeal 1 year ago
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Her family were Eygptian Royalty ( and Eygpt is in Africa) that's were she was born and her skin tone was darker than Greeks. She teamed up with them ,but she wasn't a part of them. So yeah she was Black.
SuggySug1 1 year ago
@SuggySug1 Just because Egypt is technically in Africa doesn't prove that Cleopatra was black.
Sims2archive 11 months ago
Who is that chick playin' Cloepatra, people cloepatra was Black!
SuggySug1 1 year ago
@SuggySug1 Actually Cleopatra was of greek blood. So no she was not 'black'
birch241 1 year ago 74
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@birch241 no she was half greek and half black. some people are always trying to make her fully white.her skin was darker than the greeks. they neva show her mom cuz she was black and so was her sister
officialknadatdeal 1 year ago
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@birch241 she was half greek half egyptian so get ur shit right
officialknadatdeal 1 year ago
@birch241 Exactly what I said on the previous part! Well done!
Mishaforever 1 year ago 5
@birch241 1 i heard that cleo`s mother was greek but her father was egyptian and he fled to rome because egypt hated him.
2, realistically speaking even if cleo was egyptian she wouldn`t be considerd black she would be considerd brown because of the culture and skin color
younginspiration1 1 year ago
@younginspiration1
No. Her father was Macedonian like the rest of the Ptolemies. Cleopatra's mother is not known, but suspected to be Cleopatra V Tryphaena.
The Ptolemies did not marry the Native Egyptians, but preferred to marry their own siblings. The very few times they did not intermarry, they always did so with people outside of Egypt. Cleopatra's grandmother was Persian, and the Persians are white skinned people.
Also, the nobility of Egypt during their time was Macedonian.
bjnboy 1 year ago 4
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@bjnboy That's a bunch of BS. Nobody knows the truth, cuz people didn't write down anything back then. Most of what we call history or his story was created by a jesuit priest over the last 300 yrs. Most of history is made up. Racism was never a big thing back then cuz they was none to begin with. SInce all form of racism is from modern day europeons which are Germanic tribe descent. The greeks were a multicultural people. No the persians were not white. That's BS. They were like dravidian
Thutmosis7 11 months ago
@Thutmosis7
If you say so.
I know that racism did not exist back then like it did, but classism, ethnic pride and which empire you were from did matter.
The Greeks today are multicultural people, but back then it was a lot more homogenous. The Ptolemies certainly fought to keep it that way.
And yes, MANY Persians I know and have seen with my own eyes and heard with my own ears are white-skinned. Look at Soraya Esfandiary. Many others also have differing shades of brown.
bjnboy 11 months ago 3
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@bjnboy No it was not homogenous back then. Even herodotus stated that. It's the egyptians who went up into greece and founded the colonies. That's where before the dorian greeks migrated out of the north. Then later would mixed with the people. The greeks and just like the romans were mixed people. Not trying to say they were jet black or anything. Some of them probably look like barack obama. In between type of thing. Some yrs ago they found the body of cleopatra sista in turkey.
Thutmosis7 11 months ago
@Thutmosis7
They MAY have have been mixed, but given the Greeco-Romanic's culture of xenophobia... they would not have done so too often. The Romans were particularly xenophobic, so much so that marriage to a foreigner outside of the Empire was not recognised at all. If you look at their features in mosaics and sculptures, you will see caucasian or light olive-skinned people.
Also, there is nothing fully concrete to show that the remains found were actually of Cleopatra's sister, Arsinoe.
bjnboy 11 months ago 4
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@bjnboy U keep forgetting that modern day persians are not ancient persians. Most of them are mixed with other europeon group. Persia rule over alarge portion of what we call asia. They rule armenia, georgia. Those are located near russia. Some of the modern day persians might be of these ethnic group. Persians would of look alot more like the dravidian that we see in southern india. Don't be fool by the hollywood nonsense movies depicting ancient people. Elamites were also persians.
Thutmosis7 11 months ago
@Thutmosis7: You also make two unwarranted assumptions: 1. You assume that Elamite and Dravidian are related. This is possible but hardly proven. 2. You assume the Dravidians have always been the people they are today. It's possible that the Dravidians of southern India have mixed with darker skinned Australasian speakers still present in India. In any event, the Persians recounted by the Greeks--probably a disproportionate share of the nobility--often had light hair and eyes.
tommy9911 11 months ago
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@tommy9911 Dude the persians were black people. The people who once occupy what we call iran today were dark brown in skin color. The dravidian didn't mixed. That's their color. They are the original people of india. The one in the north are invaders. According to herodotus he said they were two type of ethiopians one in africa and the other in india. The Elamites were the original people of Ur or mesopatamia before the hook nose arabs eurasian type arabs came on the scene. Elamites were black
Thutmosis7 11 months ago
@Thutmosis7: The original people of Ur were Sumerians. What little we know about them suggests they looked much like modern denizens of the Mideast. The Persians proper spoke an Indo-European language like the Celts, Germans, most non-Dravidian Indians, Balts, Italics, Greeks, etc. We don't know much about the appearance of pre-Persian inhabitants of Iran, but DNA studies of Elamites indicate a preponderance of y-DNA haplotype J, common to groups like Jews and Arabs. Rudi Bakhtiar is not black.
tommy9911 11 months ago
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@tommy9911 They look nothing like modern day people in the middle east. U are assuming. Actually the middle east people were black back then. Whether were african or not. Black is not just an african thing. According to herodotus if he existed, there are two type of ethiopians. One with wooly hair and the other with straight hair. He describe the people living in arabia, middle east, africa and asia being same. Only thing that some of them just with different texture of hair.
Thutmosis7 11 months ago
@tommy9911 If the story of nimrod approve to be true. Then the bible is right. It claim nimrod was a kushite or ethiopian. He built babylon which is modern day iraq. The kushites are from modern day sudan/ethiopia. The semitic language actually origin in ethiopia/eritrea area. Not yemen or western arabia. It only prove that it was africans who came out of the nile valley and went up into mesopatamia and created civilization there. Until they were conquered by eurasian people from the north.
Thutmosis7 11 months ago
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@Thutmosis7: Unfortunately, the story of Nimrod is almost certainly not true like much else in the Bible.
tommy9911 11 months ago
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@tommy9911 If it's false then, herodotus is just a myth then. I doubt it's false. It's possible base off a real individual. According to herodotus he describe the kushite empire expanding to indus valley. He describe the egyptians and the ethiopians as the same people. He also stated about a ethnic group of people living somewhere in southern russia, modern day Georgia as being black too. According to euronuts he is the father of history. So are we to take his word or not?
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@tommy9911 Yeah it is. How do you know it's not true?
JakobDailes 9 months ago
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I know they would have had different features than they have now, but even then they had white skinned Persians. Just look up pictures of Atoosa, daughter of Cyrus the Great. She is white. In fact, a lot of ancient murals and recent paintings of Persian history, show white or very light skinned people.
Also, in regards to Cleo's skin colour, remember, she took daily milk baths. Milk is a natural skin whitener. It wasn't fashionable int he Greco-Roman world to be tanned.
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@bjnboy Reason why you had white persians cuz they were not real persians. Persia rule over vast area that had lighter skin people. Some of them were part of the army of persia. But they were not native persians. The persians were more darker in skin tone. They are more related to dravidian or should say the other way around. No the greeks weren't white. They were mixed people. Africans meaning ethiopians long settle in greece islands long before the dorian greeks storm down from the north.
Thutmosis7 11 months ago
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Then why would the Royal Family of Persia and the nobility intermarry with those people who were not of true Persian stock? It was not done in any part of the world really.
And yes, the Greeks were Caucasian. They had pale olive skin and dark hair.
Also, historical records indicate that Cleo had reddish-brown hair and hazel eyes.
bjnboy 11 months ago
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@birch241 she was mixed with african and greek ass hole
90rashad 11 months ago
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@birch241 You should read the book "Black Athena"
ushiman44 10 months ago
Not only do you get to watch a great epic movie w/2 of hollywoods most fascinating actors of their day. You can also read great comments left here by ethnologists&Egyptologists.
thanks for uploading
translationwiz 1 year ago
Even i want to kill Cleopatras brother, he's so bratty!
OutlawBee 1 year ago 3
@OutlawBee He drowned in the battle of the Nile trying to escape Caesar's army.
HistoryLover1550 1 year ago
Pharoah seems like such a little whiner!
Elizabeththegreatest 1 year ago
She was 21 years old, bold as brass, very deliberate and among the best educated people of her day. Here she petitions Caesar for sole right to rule in Egypt. He was 50 years old.
bookkeeper57 1 year ago
Ptolemy was not Greek! He was an Egyptian!
holyvocation 1 year ago
@holyvocation Except the Ptolemaic Dynasty WAS Hellenistic, meaning it was under great Greek influence after Alexander the Great's Macedonian Empire fell.
BaBamf11 1 year ago
@holyvocation he was a greek by descent
henryhaven 1 year ago
Cleopatra looked at him as if saying "Bitch, I KNOW you just didn't do that!" (At least what I think)
ItsCorrineSoScream 1 year ago
Egyptians had black cats, not white ones.
dashinvaine 1 year ago
@dashinvaine yeah, black and orange cats.
TheHoliday555 1 year ago
The Eunuch helper of Ptolemy is very gay acting, but then, chop chop and you act like a girl!
2degucitas 1 year ago
Ah, yes...Zahi Hawass, the Liberace of Archaeology!
Morpheus1910 1 year ago
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Morpheus1910 1 year ago
well with the writing over the picture would surely detour youtube from removing the movie since it's no longer the original show
wolfstev76 1 year ago
Kemet, (Khēmía) as also Dechret (red land - desert; as oposed and complementary to Kemet - along the Nile) as t3-mry(of the River), Ta-Mehew as Hight and Low Egypt Ta-Sheme'aw (land of the south and Delta)Ta-Mehew (land of the North) .
Libians-Berbers were white and are in North Africa for thousands and thousands of years along the Mediterranean- as other Peoples whatever is tone of color - in Eurasian and Afro-asiatic space.
LusofoniaAsiaOceania 1 year ago
As the Iberians were European(and if not part North African) but no nordics, as Celtic People were a pan-culture or spirituality of Peoples and not all reds or nordics or brown air on particular.
As around Africa and Mediterranean space were Peoples of many origins and colors, from dark to white.
LusofoniaAsiaOceania 1 year ago
Im sick of Racist white people trying to erase Black Africaness away from Kemet (Ancient Egypt)
Applebaum 1 year ago
I´m tired of losing my time with racist obsession bs wish you(and many) write or wrote.
Besides I need improve my english language - as my mother language is portuguese.
And for for the people wishdon´t like the movie, go see another one.
This is for this great movie - great cinema - the golden age.
Thanks FridayNightMovieZ
LusofoniaAsiaOceania 1 year ago 3
I certainly hope real Egytians did not speak that way ! How come a film with such a budget did not have decent actors for its minor roles ?
Paganel75 1 year ago
The film belongs to its (no apostrophe - like his, or hers) owners. Thanks for posting.
crzxr 1 year ago
Haha so many awesome lines!
"There are doors...and doors..."
Greentonic 1 year ago
why does ptolemy have two oil filters hanging out of his head ?
tumadoireacht 1 year ago
uhhhhhhh this is really making me mad all these white people playin africans
this is crazy
and then they have like 5 people playing the colors that everyone is suppose to be this is too much
o to top it off the tanned every body to make them look egyptian
ryanxkeke 1 year ago
"you must take me on a tour, someday, within the walls of your palace"
hehe, i know what that means
luexiana 1 year ago
Elizabeth is so lovely as Cleopatra!
cupcake101 1 year ago 2
they are supposed to be roman, but they seam so british...
shadedness 1 year ago
Daughter of Isis
shadedness 1 year ago
It was indeed Pompey´s head. Plutarch and Suetonius said so. The Romans and Caesar were infuriated. This fact was why the Alexandria´s War begon. (Excuse my English.) Later Mark Antony and Cleopatra died one by suicide and the other by self-assisted murder. Like Caton. We must continue to study history...
shadedness 1 year ago
8:30 I find, one can tell more about the quality of the merchandise by examining the "back side" first.
lmsypj 1 year ago
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I remember when i learned that Egypt was in Africa
I always wondered why everyone was white in this film and the nobodies and servants were black
Hollywood loves to perpetuate white supremacy.
I also learned that the Arabs hadnt invaded egypt yet either
Applebaum 1 year ago
@Applebaum
I live in Egypt and the majority of Egyptians have skin or color which means if Egypt was white then it was conquered by blacks. Or it means that Egypt was black and later conquered by whites which still explains why Egyptians have skin of color. If Whites owned Egypt or Africa they would have never left! They came, they went.
muslimalmumin1 1 year ago
@Applebaum Africa, as Europe, Asia or Eurasia, is continent and space, not a race. This is in Mediterranean world.
LusofoniaAsiaOceania 1 year ago
@LusofoniaAsiaOceania
you can say whatever you want
but
Egypt is in Africa
Egyptians did not look like northern europeans
i hate these old silly films
Applebaum 1 year ago
@Applebaum Yes, I can say what I want and by the way, what it was!
Neither mediterraneans and around Mediterranean world, north, south and east, or at least many of them did not look like northern europeans or central africans.
LusofoniaAsiaOceania 1 year ago
But look like southern europeans, north africans, even with many near easterns etc. at least like many of them.
LusofoniaAsiaOceania 1 year ago
@LusofoniaAsiaOceania
Egyptians didnt look like Northern Europeans or Arabs etc etc
Egyptians looked like Africans with brown skin and curly or coily hair simple
Applebaum 1 year ago
@Applebaum Neither as central Africans. They look like modern Egyptians and all Berbers and all ancient North Africans - ancient Mediterranean and North African peoples.
LusofoniaAsiaOceania 1 year ago
@LusofoniaAsiaOceania
No Arabs & berbers hadnt invaded Egypt yet so no they did not look like them
or Ancient Meditteraneans
Islam hadnt been invented either. The Egyptian Empire had already fallen by the time Berbers decided to invade that region.
Ancient Egyptians looked like Black people cos they were Black.
and furthermore Egypt was called Kemet in the time of the Pharoahs
people still want to deny their Black Africaness. Im not going to argue with you about it. Black people are diverse
Applebaum 1 year ago
FridayNightMovie
I give you a 5 stars for this Classic
ThoughtTraveler 1 year ago
Cleopatra as a very nice actress
xKindodragoNx 1 year ago
what the hell is that in the pot at 3:47??
inglouriousbasterd93 1 year ago
@inglouriousbasterd93 That would be Pompey's head.
Mynemosyne12 1 year ago
and so much coin...
Ypipable 1 year ago
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isaacremponi 1 year ago
It's really quite sad. Some people have invested so much false pride in the misconceived notion that Cleopatra was black that any time anyone posts anything about the Egyptian queen inevitably the topic comes up. The tragedy is when another nation's grandeur is co-opted by another group in the hopes of enhancing itself. And I ask, are you all so historically bankrupt that you have to steal another culture's accomplishments in order to makes yourselves feel better?
Rayarena 1 year ago 7
You are of course absolutely right, DoctorMirabilis!
The historical evidence clearly indicates that the Greek Ptolemaic Dynasty inbreed with only their own kind and didn't mix with native Egyptians.
All the morons claiming here that Cleopatra might have been a "mulatto" or mixed should e-mail Dr. Zahi Hawass, one of the world's leading Egyptologists, and ask him what he thinks!
PubliusQuintilius 1 year ago 39
@PubliusQuintilius She could have been a mulatto because i read some where that her mother had egypitian army
historytroy162 1 year ago
@historytroy162 Where did you read that piece of pseudo-historical garbage? Cleopatra VII Philopator mother was Queen Cleopatra Tryphaena, wife and sister of Ptolemy XII Auletes.
PubliusQuintilius 1 year ago 2
@PubliusQuintilius The most recent discoveries show that Cleopatra might actually have had Egyptian blood. Her SISTER was part African. This means that Cleopatra's ancestors did indeed mix with the Egyptian people. What I don't get is why this is such a big deal. Blood or no, she was first and foremost Egyptian in heart. Source: BBC
xjennaee 1 year ago
@xjennaee Wait, you mean the so-called "discovery" of Arsinoe's skeleton in Ephesus and that the bones suggested that the younger sister of Cleopatra was of mixed race? Well, that "discovery" is nothing more than a piece of pseudo-scientific gibberish.
PubliusQuintilius 1 year ago 8
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@PubliusQuintilius no arsinoe and clepatras mother was black do your research why u trying to claim she was fully white
officialknadatdeal 1 year ago
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@officialknadatdeal all the whitewashed racist white people voted this down smh ... she was half black
officialknadatdeal 1 year ago
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First, Arsinoe was indeed supposed to have been murdered on the steps of the temple of Diana in Ephesus, and the Octagon (which was found in the 1920s) is a rather grand tomb which can be dated stylistically to the first century BC. But there is nothing more than that to link the tomb and the princess. There is no surviving name on the tomb and the claims that the shape was meant to evoke the shape of the lighthouse of Alexandria is just contrived supposition.
PubliusQuintilius 1 year ago 7
@xjennaee
Second, the skeleton itself doesn't survive intact. The crucial skull, on which the ethnic arguments are based, was lost in the second world war. The new conclusions (including a mock up of Arsinoe's face) rely on the measurements of the skull left by the first excavators. The remaining bones are said to be those of a 15-18 year old; when Arsinoe was in her mid-20s when she died.
PubliusQuintilius 1 year ago 6
@xjennaee
Third, skeletal measurements are not in any way a reliable indicator of race. To determine race/ethnicity, you need a DNA sample.
PubliusQuintilius 1 year ago 6
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@PubliusQuintilius she was black lets put it dat way
officialknadatdeal 1 year ago
@officialknadatdeal You are delusional, pal. Cleopatra being "black" or "half black" is a modern African American myth! Cleopatra was not black, nor she was African or an Egyptian. She was Greek! And therefore Cleopatra being portrayed as white is entirely based upon historical fact. Along with ancient coins and statues that portray her as white, we also have the testimony of the roman poet Horace (65-8 BC) who wrote that Queen Cleopatra's skin was "as white as alabaster".
PubliusQuintilius 1 year ago 10
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@PubliusQuintilius no you probaly racist and dont want her to be half black well "pal" she was like her sister mixed do yo research bruh
officialknadatdeal 1 year ago
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@PubliusQuintilius no you probaly racist and dont want her to be half black well "pal" she was like her sister mixed do yo research bruh
officialknadatdeal 1 year ago
@officialknadatdeal Moreover, it is known that the Ptolemaic heirs were the products of incestuous Greek-Macedonian relationships aka WHITE European, not mixed blacks. This is well documented among the Ptolemies own records. Cleopatra's mother (Cleopatra Tryphaena) and paternal grandmother's heritage are well known. Her mother was her father's cousin and her paternal grandmother was her paternal grandfather's sister, both were of the Ptolemaic lineage.
PubliusQuintilius 1 year ago 9
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@PubliusQuintilius they was white but cleopatra was half black like her sister. you just trying to make one of the greatest women in history white dfck
officialknadatdeal 1 year ago
@officialknadatdeal First, I'm not racist. I just don't like to see history hijacked by Afrocentric ideologues with an axe to grind. Second, the so-called "discovery" of Arsinoe's tomb in Ephesus has been rejected by every serious scholar for the following reasons: there is no surviving name on the tomb; the bones found are of a young girl in her teens, while Arsinoe was in her late twenties when she died; skull measurements are not a reliable indicator of race/ethnicity.
PubliusQuintilius 1 year ago 19