"The Hero of Time is, of all things, defeated by Ganondorf. Ganondorf obtains the Triforce and become the Demon King, Ganon, who continues to menace the world even in later eras. The conflicts surrounding the Triforce happen again and again, the blood of the gods wanes, and the kingdom of Hyrule is reduced in size"
You and I think alike. When Nintendo release the official timeline I tried to make scene out of the 3rd timeline and made the same theory/fact as you did. We both did our homework I guess haha :P
Correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't it be better to first say that Link goes into an alternate past instead of the future since when he pulls the master sword he stays in the timeline he is currently in wjth the same progress before he went to the past?
@Mcnessey We don't know what happened to the Hero of Time after Majora's Mask, but many believe that his journey will be continued with the release of a new game. But yea, he is confirmed to be the Hero's Shade in Twilight Princess.
I never said that the hero died, to be honest "the hero is absent" sounds a bit more correct to me. However like I said, the Hyrule Historia (which contained the official timeline) states that Link is defeated by Ganondorf on top of Ganon's Tower in the Final Battle. It was realized like 3 weeks after this video was uploaded. You should check out the Hyrule Historia for yourself, Google Search: Glitterberri Hyrule Historia. Ofcourse this is not translated by Nintendo, but they are very accurate.
thank God someone who finally understands and has a video camera to put it on youtube lol. u need to send this video to every single person on youtube who complained about link dying, being a split in the timeline
@geauxlegendofzelda It has been proved in the Hyrule Historia that the Defeated Timeline is based off of Link being defeated on top of Ganon's Tower in the Final Battle. We do not know how a destined Hero could die, but I think we will found out through the events of a new game.
@Kenziex123 wait, when was that proved? because i talked to a guy fluent in japanese and he said the real translation is "the hero is absent" timeline. that would mean it follows the timeline where the hero leaves to go to the "alternate future" or adult timeline. when was it ever proved that it meant the hero died?
@Kenziex123 hm.... well, ur right. i cant argue with that. the only things i could say is that there still is a hero in that timeline in the orange brackets ^^ but he is defeated because he doesnot have the necessary means to kill ganondorf. personally, i dont think its specifically at the time of the lens of truth where the first split occurs. i think its at the moment u pull the master sword for the first time
@geauxlegendofzelda Anything is possible, I think that Nintendo said that the book will always be changing, I might be wrong but any theories are plausible at this point.
WOW This actually makes perfect sense! I was really pissed that it was saying what happened IF link was defeated but it now makes sense because he couldn't return to that timeline because he went back to a new alternate timeline after getting the lens and he couldn't fight ganon hence link being defeated . I thought it was trying to say he was killed, didnt win the fight in the end. Thank You So MUCH for explaining!!!!
@CabooseSNR thank you so much. I'm still looking and reading into it. Nintendo has even admitted that, although this was the timeline given to us by them, new entries into the series may change the timeline once again.
@YourHeroes i wish u could just send this to every zelda fan in the world, especially the ones who made videos on youtube complaining about how this isnt possible hahaha
@YourHeroes I hate to break this to you but I am afraid this has been proved wrong. :( Check out page 92 of the Hyrule Historia on GlitterBerri's page. (Google) It's been confirmed that he is defeated on top of Ganon's Tower, which marks the beginning of the 3rd timeline.
@Narutofan99991 I think that a timeline is still created whenever Link travels back to get the Lens, but we don't visit it. It's been proven that the 3rd timeline leading into the events of A Link to the Past is the event of Link being defeated on top of Ganon's Tower.
@Kenziex123 i know but this ones make more sense oh well. That's what happens when you don't think this stuff through. i like this one better unless they make a game saying how link loses.
@Narutofan99991 Anything is possible... This might actually might be Nintendo's plan. Like you mentioned, maybe they have a new game in mind which could possibly explain this.
yeah i shared it to a bunch of other zelda fanatics and they loved it :) it's an awesome explanation anyways get some live streaming happening again man cause i enjoy you and your content.
Part 1: This is without a double the BEST explaination of the timeline I've seen. I've seen a couple that just pretty much say "screw it" and say that every game basically is a new person--not the same Link, but this makes so much more sense and goes with what Nintendo has been saying. The "new Link" you mention in Windwaker could just be an alternate version of the same Link, not the hero one since he's back in the Alternate Past. Also, a game after MM would fit nicely...
Part 2: because I think you're right that Zelda wanted to avoid actually them even meeting, so I don't know if he would carry the info he gained up until OoT and jumping timelines back to the Alternate Past because he and Zelda don't know each other in Twilight Princess (but he retained the TriForce). I think also you disprove that the Hero's Shade is a dead Link (he's NOT), since clearly Link can't die for good in any of the games, as is clearly stated in the Historia book and you proved it. :)
"yourheroes"- I completely get what you mean. It seems a lot more accurate since they say one of the three splits Link is supposed to die. I do hope they make new Zelda games that will fit into the spots in your timeline. Make an cool photoshop of your timeline! I'm going with it XD
Your theroy is flawed. Here's why: The mastersword was destroyed and then rebuilt into the "Four Sword". Therefor any game with the master sword cannot take place after the fourswords game...right?
Very nice logic - way to go explaining things. I am of the opinion that fans can think what they want, despite what the creators say, but this actually makes the third timeline more palatable.
its wrong because wind waker is ahead of skyward sword
if you noticed that ganon is a rock guy in skyward sword with a scar on his forehead and wind waker is the only game were he got stabbed in the face and he was turned to rock
@weareninjaliscious no because the ganon in SS is not the Ganon of wind waker and in SS he got the wound from the seal that the goddess gave him. In WW you have a reborn link and a reborn Ganon
@weareninjaliscious This timeline is official, meaning that its from the creators themselves. So no , you're actually wrong. Plus in SS, its not ganon, its Demise who later reincarinates in Ganon to represent his anguish. Plus Demise isnt a rock guy , what are you talking about?
@weareninjaliscious did you even look at the official timeline to even say something like that? Even without that it's DEAD obvious that wind waker takes place in a distant future, just as much as its DEAD obvious that since HYRULE WASN'T EVEN TRULY DISCOVERED YET IN SKYWARD SWORD IT HAS TO TAKE PLACE FIRST.
Dear god... I just don't know why certain people... you know what, i'm done -____-
(Part 3/2) Nevermind... I just realized that the Historia specifically has WW in the alternate future timeline. I also realize that this makes sense because Ganon supposedly breaks free, and Link won't be there because Zelda sent him back. But what I said is still supportive of the Imprisoning War, which leads into ALTTP.
(Part 2/2) So it would make sense if WW took place after the events in the original timeline. It would explain why in WW they say the hero never came. Link basically opened the Sacred Realm for Ganondorf by collecting the three gems, and then disappeared to the alternate future, leaving those in the original timeline totally screwed. So they had to flood Hyrule, and many years later the story of WW starts. But I haven't read the Historia, so can someone comment on the legitimacy of this theory?
(Part 1/2) I think your 'alternate future' and 'original' timelines may be flip-flopped as far as what games follow them. In the original timeline, Link would simply disappear when returning to the past after learning the Song of Storms, and would be following the 'alternate future' timeline from that point on. To an observer in the original timeline, adult Link learns the Song of Storms, puts the Master Sword back in the pedestal, and never returns.
Ok so heres one for you...being that your timeline when link goes into the future (from oot) leads into A link to the past...how does the master sword 'move' from the temple of time to the "lost woods"? In link to the past the master sword is said to have always been there in the lost woods as in the ending of Link to the Past...the final part shows that link returns the master sword to the lost woods were it stays forever. Also...Where is the Golden land that many people sought to enter?
@Apollyon2119 The Master Sword was originally supposed to be in the woods. The only reason why it was moved to the Temple of Time in OoT is because it was being used as a key to the Sacred Realm. The Sacred Realm, I believe, is the Golden Land. I'm not entirely certain of this, but since the Sacred realm is shaped by the hearts of the people who enter it, this would explain why it turned into the Dark World. Ganondorf followed Link into the Sacred Realm in OoT, transforming the Sacred Realm.
actually... in the Hyrule Historia it says that he is defeated in the final battle against Ganon, and so Ganon is able to take the triforce pieces from Link and Zelda. Sometime after this, the sages seal Ganon away during the Imprisoning War. Sadly, in order for this to happen Link needed the Lens of Truth to awaken Impa as a sage. Which proves this impossible :(
your a smart bastard but your missing something in your alternet past thery at the end of oot when link warns zelda about ganondorf theroyal people cant execute ganon because they dont have the light arrows so they banish him to the twilight realm thats where TP starts now about MM link just goes off some where els for a while thats not to say he doesnt go back to hyrule so basicly there doesnt need to be another game between MM and TP see what i mean?
@MrUBtrollin2 im not saying to not make another game any zelda games awesome but its unneeded just trying to be a good zelda fan and correct whats needed
Here's my theory (The missing peice between MM & TP) In majora's mask link is looking for his "lost friend" most likely Saria because navi was "like peace im done" and since Saria was a sage who helped seal ganon maybe they hooked up and screwed everything up somehow (makes sense since Zelda screwed alot up) and i could assume it's either those two because he was wandering around in the forest at the beggining of MM and at the -end-(I assume) However at the end there is a tree like creature..hm?
Good video, but in the end of ocarina of time, young link already have the triforce in his hand, maybe you already know this, or other user tell you, but I don't have time to read all the comentaries XD, anyway believe me, search pic, link have the triforce. But zelda and impa run away from the castle... so why she still there.... oh man so many question... XD by the way, I am a huge zelda nerd too
Dammit, Nintendo. Why did you hqve to mess with the Zelda story so much. Why couldn't you just do what you did with Mario and keep the same character in a steady time stream?
@XxRedxAdrenalinexX They did it for profit. They could ultimately keep making more alternate timelines of the already alternate timelines just to keep some sort of story line. So more games more profit.
5:22 what explaintation could occur? as you said Link removes himself from there completeely and so removes the triforce of courage with him, how can the triforce be complete?
@ThatOneGuyYouSaw15 Actually, this is debatable. I happen to think that it's one individual, but there are some that say there are different ones. Now that we have a timeline, I guess we can always still bat that theory around!
It makes sense because in Skyward Sword he leaves the True Master Sword behind after unlocking it's full power in other words TRUE Master Sword and the the Temple where the sword is crumbles and then the Temple of Time is built around the sword and then Hyrule is built and it goes on from there.
@RapidashedSWE That fit's with what i said about the flood and Lanyura provence. I also think that the temple of time in TP that you find in the forest is the same one in the sealed grounds of SS
After Playing SS I always thought that Lanyru province was the same one from TP but after the great flood it reaturned to it's state that you get to see it in when you use time crystals
for some reason the hero of time comes back after mm and needs the triforce for a war with gannon? thats how they end up sealing him in the sacret realm again in tp
Well done, but the third timeline has been translated as "the hero is defeated" and then childhood link and adult link... But you're pretty much still right... In a way
Wait... How can The Four Swords be before Ocarina of Time. The Four Sword is the reforged Master Sword after it has been destroyed, seeing as its not in the original Legend of Zelda and The Adventure of Link..
@Zentrix97 i'm tired of people confusing the four sword with the master sword, THEY ARE NOT THE SAME. The PICORI BLADE IS THE FOUR SWORD, please stop confusing the two! Read up on your zelda lore, The picori blade was forged by the picori given to the hero of men, Vaati in the minish cap breaks that sword, then link in that game reforges the sword with the FOUR elements into the FOUR SWORD, which is why there are FOUR LINKS when you use its power.
How about the Mastersword? In the AF there is a master sword however he was sent back after OoT. In the Original timeline there is the mastersword in Link To The Past and in the AP there is the master sword again in Twilight Princess!!! THREE MASTER SWORDSZ?!
Excellent timeline! Love it! Clarified my nerdy Zelda mind. I'm looking forward to more Zelda stuff! Please keep it up!
This does make sense, but I found just one problem. Just one. And that is that, in the future the windmill guy is pissed because a child played that song, although you can not play it until you travel back to the past. Which means that what you did in the past affected the original future, and not an alternate one. I think that Zelda sent Link to a different past, which makes the three timelines. I think that the mastersword sent him to his original, but the ocarina sent him to a different.
That actually makes sense. You mentioned that the official timeline hadnt been translated or something like that. Will you do an update if an official english statement on the timeline happens? Subscribing with hopes you will.
@TreF68 I will. A lot of things have translated, but some of the translations don't make sense. I want an official translation from Nintendo...because there seems to be many mistakes. Thanks for watching.
you don't need an extra game between the alternate past Oot and TP because TP explains that the sages attempt to execute Ganondorf, but are unsucsesful. And because of this, he's sent to the twilight world, but great video none the less!
What happened to the scene where, after Link puts the Master Sword back into the pedestal, he's walking away from the chamber, and the Door of Time closes behind him? You completely left that scene out of your explanation, and just said about the very end as he's walking up to Zelda...
@supermarble94 In majoras mask there is a scene he remebers zelda and his memories come back when you get your ocarina form skull kid and i think that was the complete end.
@TheVGGP Yes, but you said that Zelda sends Link back in time to before he got the Master Sword, but we clearly see Link walking away from the pedestal, having the Door of Time closing behind him. Explain that.
@TheVGGP No, but I do know what scene you're talking about... >.>
You're currently talking about a scene in Majora's Mask. I'm talking about the scene in Ocarina of Time, which is the scene directly preceding the very last scene where he walks up to Zelda and it just says Game Over. You completely omitted that scene from your explanation, and skipped to the "Game Over" scene, saying that's the last thing you see.
Saying that Zelda sends you back in time to before you meet her... She doesn't. She just sends you back in time one last time, then the door closes behind you, never allowing you to go forward again, so you can live your childhood...
this cant be right because you can go back and fourth through time as much times as you want, so therefore with your theory there would be multiple alternate pasts and multiple futures.
@nmen42 Yes but he is talking about the required things not the sidequest they don't count so much about story so tecnically you only need to go pack to the past as many times as he said you did.
The only thing I don't understand is how the picori blade got turned into the four sword, then back to the master sword in ocarina of time, then eventually back to the four sword after twilight princess. Was this ever explained? Maybe the picori blade isnt the master sword at all, and of course there is room for games to explain that, but I feel like I'm missing something there.
This thing actually makes a whole crap load of sense becuase in winkmaker he never came back ..... but basiclly its like difrrent dimensiones but its still sweet lol we all just love playing zelda..... quick question why is it caled zelda when Link does all the work???? thats kind of mean XD it shuold be called legend of Link (just saying) >w<
I really wish this were the case but as it turns out, the third split is the result of Link actually being defeated by Ganondorf. There's even a page called the deciding battle.
lol bro your overthinking it. legend of zelda wasnt really made to make sense. it was made to just be awesome. if you think about it all of the physics in the game are bullshit. that is unless the theory that alternate dimension have seperate rules but that highly unlikely. for example, why is lake hyrule so damn far away from the forest if it is a part of the forest? and why all of a sudden did the desert change its name 3 times? was it self consious? your not really supposed to know.
@SacredStoddard True but you gotta admit, isn't it fun trying to piece everything together like a big ass puzzle? This pretty much just gives fans something else to do that'll keep em hype about the next Zelda game and past ones as well, but you are right. To quote what James said, "Yeah its fun, but its not worth a waste of sleep."
About how you said Link made changes in the past after learning the song of storms and then getting the lens of truth... that doesn't lead to an alternate future. The original future already applies all the things Link does when he goes back to the past. Remember how when you first go to the future, and you go in the windmill, the crazy guy who plays that instrument says that a kid played a song a long time ago? That's what Link does when he goes back to the past. It's not an alternate future.
Wow, its about time someone actually explains how time travel works, basically because of freewill, there is no straight line that represents time, only by a person's perspective does time seem like a straight line. Not sure why in the world some actually didn't even believe a split timeline was possible to begin with.
In any case, now that figuring out the timeline is "done", I suppose its time to find out what's wrong with the official timeline. I'm all ears people =3
generally what i believe but i would have said that WW falls in with the AP. Sicne Link was off in the events of MM, Ganon breaks out and the gods seal off and flood hyrule. pretty good though
I think you got it wrong. Link never creates an alternate future because hes already in that future. When adult link first met the windmill guy, in that timeline, child link already played song of storms for him. So before link could even do it in the past, it was already done in the future. So I dont c y him going back to the spirit temple would be any different. The only split that happens is when zelda sends him even further back than when he pulled the master sword.
Ive never been i huge zelda fan, but used to enjoy playing the early games but does this mean the games were not released in the same order as the timelines go?
Overall, I really like this video and your theory. I've also heard that the ALttP timeline is hypothetical, but I like your idea better. The one thing I have against it is your insistence that there needs to be a game between MM and TP. In TP, the scene of Ganondorf's execution seems to show that no one expected him to have the Triforce (including himself), but he does, hinting that he was always meant to have it, even without stealing it, which fits the eternal battle between Hylia and Demise.
@RapidashedSWE nope they never explaine who was that shade. and he is not called hero's shade. thats is speculations made by unofficial timelines theoricist.
in TP the only mention of a past hero was the emblematic green tunic that represent Skyward sword hero. hero chosen by the goddess(originally).
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gooshgadude123 17 hours ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Good Job you realy explained it perfectly.
1300l 2 days ago
Wouldn't Zelda have sent him to the original past if it was before the master sword?
Camy415 3 days ago
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CharmOfChance 4 days ago in playlist Uploaded videos
"The Hero of Time is, of all things, defeated by Ganondorf. Ganondorf obtains the Triforce and become the Demon King, Ganon, who continues to menace the world even in later eras. The conflicts surrounding the Triforce happen again and again, the blood of the gods wanes, and the kingdom of Hyrule is reduced in size"
- Hyrule Historia.
Kenziex123 4 days ago 4
What about crossbow training? And super smash brothers? And Soul Calibur 2? ...
XD
austing360 5 days ago
@austing360 those games take place after the Philips CD-i games.
YourHeroes 4 days ago 3
@YourHeroes I heard they are a prequel, CD-i are the last ones cos it was so bad that the apocalipse heapens after it in Hyrlule and it ends.
1300l 2 days ago
You and I think alike. When Nintendo release the official timeline I tried to make scene out of the 3rd timeline and made the same theory/fact as you did. We both did our homework I guess haha :P
1991DBZfan 5 days ago
@1991DBZfan They said it's still not complete. :D
YourHeroes 5 days ago
@YourHeroes I have that pen :D
UltimateJCFreak 6 days ago
I think I'm wrong.
AGMTitles 6 days ago
Correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't it be better to first say that Link goes into an alternate past instead of the future since when he pulls the master sword he stays in the timeline he is currently in wjth the same progress before he went to the past?
AGMTitles 6 days ago
I'm gonna go with your theory.
AGMTitles 6 days ago
doesnt link die after majoras mask and turn into a stalfo and he is then seen in twilight princess passing on his sword skills to this new link ?
Mcnessey 6 days ago
@Mcnessey We don't know what happened to the Hero of Time after Majora's Mask, but many believe that his journey will be continued with the release of a new game. But yea, he is confirmed to be the Hero's Shade in Twilight Princess.
Kenziex123 6 days ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@Kenziex123 ok thank you
Mcnessey 6 days ago
Dude, this is golden!
But, in the alternate past timeline, didn't Ganondorf get the Triforce of Power sometime following his banishment to the twilight realm?
yoyo10231995 6 days ago
@yoyo10231995 He got it before he was sent to the Twilight Realm, but we don't know how yet.
Kenziex123 6 days ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@Kenziex123 Oh.
yoyo10231995 5 days ago
So the Green guy is Zelda right ?
Staliingrad 1 week ago
@Staliingrad That's a f*cking girls name! D:<
Kenziex123 6 days ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@Staliingrad No thats Link!
BeyBlade1999 6 days ago
So nintendo is using the world line theory form steins gate? It is funny how similar the two are.
edl01reviews 1 week ago
I never said that the hero died, to be honest "the hero is absent" sounds a bit more correct to me. However like I said, the Hyrule Historia (which contained the official timeline) states that Link is defeated by Ganondorf on top of Ganon's Tower in the Final Battle. It was realized like 3 weeks after this video was uploaded. You should check out the Hyrule Historia for yourself, Google Search: Glitterberri Hyrule Historia. Ofcourse this is not translated by Nintendo, but they are very accurate.
Kenziex123 1 week ago
thank God someone who finally understands and has a video camera to put it on youtube lol. u need to send this video to every single person on youtube who complained about link dying, being a split in the timeline
geauxlegendofzelda 1 week ago
It has been proved wrong. Sorry.
Kenziex123 1 week ago
@Kenziex123 how?
geauxlegendofzelda 1 week ago
@geauxlegendofzelda It has been proved in the Hyrule Historia that the Defeated Timeline is based off of Link being defeated on top of Ganon's Tower in the Final Battle. We do not know how a destined Hero could die, but I think we will found out through the events of a new game.
Kenziex123 1 week ago
@Kenziex123 wait, when was that proved? because i talked to a guy fluent in japanese and he said the real translation is "the hero is absent" timeline. that would mean it follows the timeline where the hero leaves to go to the "alternate future" or adult timeline. when was it ever proved that it meant the hero died?
geauxlegendofzelda 1 week ago
@geauxlegendofzelda Oh wait, I did say he died :P woops.
Kenziex123 1 week ago
@geauxlegendofzelda Check out page 92
Kenziex123 1 week ago
@Kenziex123 hm.... well, ur right. i cant argue with that. the only things i could say is that there still is a hero in that timeline in the orange brackets ^^ but he is defeated because he doesnot have the necessary means to kill ganondorf. personally, i dont think its specifically at the time of the lens of truth where the first split occurs. i think its at the moment u pull the master sword for the first time
geauxlegendofzelda 1 week ago
@geauxlegendofzelda Anything is possible, I think that Nintendo said that the book will always be changing, I might be wrong but any theories are plausible at this point.
Kenziex123 1 week ago
zelda calculus...
dbark9231 1 week ago
In Windwaker the Link (Hero of the Winds) is a reincarnation of the Hero of Time.
ChrisCaelanThomas 1 week ago
WOW This actually makes perfect sense! I was really pissed that it was saying what happened IF link was defeated but it now makes sense because he couldn't return to that timeline because he went back to a new alternate timeline after getting the lens and he couldn't fight ganon hence link being defeated . I thought it was trying to say he was killed, didnt win the fight in the end. Thank You So MUCH for explaining!!!!
CabooseSNR 1 week ago
@CabooseSNR thank you so much. I'm still looking and reading into it. Nintendo has even admitted that, although this was the timeline given to us by them, new entries into the series may change the timeline once again.
YourHeroes 1 week ago
nice job man :)
adamdaniel01 1 week ago
@adamdaniel01 thank you.
YourHeroes 1 week ago
@YourHeroes i wish u could just send this to every zelda fan in the world, especially the ones who made videos on youtube complaining about how this isnt possible hahaha
geauxlegendofzelda 1 week ago
@YourHeroes I hate to break this to you but I am afraid this has been proved wrong. :( Check out page 92 of the Hyrule Historia on GlitterBerri's page. (Google) It's been confirmed that he is defeated on top of Ganon's Tower, which marks the beginning of the 3rd timeline.
Kenziex123 6 days ago in playlist Uploaded videos 7
@Kenziex123 technically by leaving the timeline he lost =/
Narutofan99991 5 hours ago
@Narutofan99991 I think that a timeline is still created whenever Link travels back to get the Lens, but we don't visit it. It's been proven that the 3rd timeline leading into the events of A Link to the Past is the event of Link being defeated on top of Ganon's Tower.
Kenziex123 4 hours ago
@Kenziex123 i know but this ones make more sense oh well. That's what happens when you don't think this stuff through. i like this one better unless they make a game saying how link loses.
Narutofan99991 4 hours ago
@Narutofan99991 Anything is possible... This might actually might be Nintendo's plan. Like you mentioned, maybe they have a new game in mind which could possibly explain this.
Kenziex123 4 hours ago
Nintendo have said that there wii be a completely new Zelda game for the 3DS... I wonder how it'll fit...
HarmanKooner 1 week ago
yeah i shared it to a bunch of other zelda fanatics and they loved it :) it's an awesome explanation anyways get some live streaming happening again man cause i enjoy you and your content.
KeYLow1992 1 week ago
Let us nerds unite for an epic nerd out!
n737ua 1 week ago
are you lui or luis???
MrVelotro1 1 week ago
@YourHeroes your nerd timeline is awsome i wish in a geek like you :) lui
MrVelotro1 1 week ago
WRONG!!!
BalisticMexBoy 1 week ago
What about the c-di games :(
Shadandsmoke 1 week ago
Thanks, this was a great explanation and answered some questions I had.
And I thoroughly enjoyed listening to you 'nerd out' ;D
KakunaRattata 1 week ago
@KakunaRattata thank you for allowing me to nerd out while enjoying. :D
YourHeroes 1 week ago
Part 1: This is without a double the BEST explaination of the timeline I've seen. I've seen a couple that just pretty much say "screw it" and say that every game basically is a new person--not the same Link, but this makes so much more sense and goes with what Nintendo has been saying. The "new Link" you mention in Windwaker could just be an alternate version of the same Link, not the hero one since he's back in the Alternate Past. Also, a game after MM would fit nicely...
ItsaMeMissMario 1 week ago in playlist Favorite videos
Part 2: because I think you're right that Zelda wanted to avoid actually them even meeting, so I don't know if he would carry the info he gained up until OoT and jumping timelines back to the Alternate Past because he and Zelda don't know each other in Twilight Princess (but he retained the TriForce). I think also you disprove that the Hero's Shade is a dead Link (he's NOT), since clearly Link can't die for good in any of the games, as is clearly stated in the Historia book and you proved it. :)
ItsaMeMissMario 1 week ago in playlist Favorite videos
"yourheroes"- I completely get what you mean. It seems a lot more accurate since they say one of the three splits Link is supposed to die. I do hope they make new Zelda games that will fit into the spots in your timeline. Make an cool photoshop of your timeline! I'm going with it XD
Ruukasu94 1 week ago
what time line would links awakening take place in? a paradox of nintendo? lol
XxblackrainstudioxX 1 week ago
This was a nice effort, but I am afraid this has been proved otherwise.
Kenziex123 2 weeks ago
By this logic time travel #4 would have created a fourth timeline :/
Hackmodford 2 weeks ago
Your theroy is flawed. Here's why: The mastersword was destroyed and then rebuilt into the "Four Sword". Therefor any game with the master sword cannot take place after the fourswords game...right?
ICUPINTHEAIR 2 weeks ago
@ICUPINTHEAIR that is sooo wrong -_-... the Picori Blade was rebuilt into the Four Sword.
Kenziex123 2 weeks ago
Very nice logic - way to go explaining things. I am of the opinion that fans can think what they want, despite what the creators say, but this actually makes the third timeline more palatable.
ryuwind23 2 weeks ago
its wrong because wind waker is ahead of skyward sword
if you noticed that ganon is a rock guy in skyward sword with a scar on his forehead and wind waker is the only game were he got stabbed in the face and he was turned to rock
theory broken sorry kinda more logical
weareninjaliscious 2 weeks ago
@weareninjaliscious then why does the master sword become the master sword in Skyward Sword and not Wind waker.....................
3KingG 2 weeks ago
@weareninjaliscious no because the ganon in SS is not the Ganon of wind waker and in SS he got the wound from the seal that the goddess gave him. In WW you have a reborn link and a reborn Ganon
deutschland996 2 weeks ago
@weareninjaliscious This timeline is official, meaning that its from the creators themselves. So no , you're actually wrong. Plus in SS, its not ganon, its Demise who later reincarinates in Ganon to represent his anguish. Plus Demise isnt a rock guy , what are you talking about?
24KillaGilla 2 weeks ago
@weareninjaliscious NOPE you're horribly wrong sir.. horribly HORRIBLY wrong.
windkai 2 weeks ago
@weareninjaliscious did you even look at the official timeline to even say something like that? Even without that it's DEAD obvious that wind waker takes place in a distant future, just as much as its DEAD obvious that since HYRULE WASN'T EVEN TRULY DISCOVERED YET IN SKYWARD SWORD IT HAS TO TAKE PLACE FIRST.
Dear god... I just don't know why certain people... you know what, i'm done -____-
windkai 2 weeks ago
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weareninjaliscious 2 weeks ago
man this is so fucking confusing ;/ lol i have no idea haha but from what i understand it sounds alright.
zeldakink64 2 weeks ago
(Part 3/2) Nevermind... I just realized that the Historia specifically has WW in the alternate future timeline. I also realize that this makes sense because Ganon supposedly breaks free, and Link won't be there because Zelda sent him back. But what I said is still supportive of the Imprisoning War, which leads into ALTTP.
mmalekhedayat 2 weeks ago
(Part 2/2) So it would make sense if WW took place after the events in the original timeline. It would explain why in WW they say the hero never came. Link basically opened the Sacred Realm for Ganondorf by collecting the three gems, and then disappeared to the alternate future, leaving those in the original timeline totally screwed. So they had to flood Hyrule, and many years later the story of WW starts. But I haven't read the Historia, so can someone comment on the legitimacy of this theory?
mmalekhedayat 2 weeks ago in playlist Favorite videos
(Part 1/2) I think your 'alternate future' and 'original' timelines may be flip-flopped as far as what games follow them. In the original timeline, Link would simply disappear when returning to the past after learning the Song of Storms, and would be following the 'alternate future' timeline from that point on. To an observer in the original timeline, adult Link learns the Song of Storms, puts the Master Sword back in the pedestal, and never returns.
mmalekhedayat 2 weeks ago in playlist Favorite videos
Ok so heres one for you...being that your timeline when link goes into the future (from oot) leads into A link to the past...how does the master sword 'move' from the temple of time to the "lost woods"? In link to the past the master sword is said to have always been there in the lost woods as in the ending of Link to the Past...the final part shows that link returns the master sword to the lost woods were it stays forever. Also...Where is the Golden land that many people sought to enter?
Apollyon2119 3 weeks ago
@Apollyon2119 The Master Sword was originally supposed to be in the woods. The only reason why it was moved to the Temple of Time in OoT is because it was being used as a key to the Sacred Realm. The Sacred Realm, I believe, is the Golden Land. I'm not entirely certain of this, but since the Sacred realm is shaped by the hearts of the people who enter it, this would explain why it turned into the Dark World. Ganondorf followed Link into the Sacred Realm in OoT, transforming the Sacred Realm.
Kenziex123 3 weeks ago
actually... in the Hyrule Historia it says that he is defeated in the final battle against Ganon, and so Ganon is able to take the triforce pieces from Link and Zelda. Sometime after this, the sages seal Ganon away during the Imprisoning War. Sadly, in order for this to happen Link needed the Lens of Truth to awaken Impa as a sage. Which proves this impossible :(
Kenziex123 3 weeks ago
Yea man you solved the riddle I have been trying to figure out for 2 weeks, well done.
Kenziex123 3 weeks ago
your a smart bastard but your missing something in your alternet past thery at the end of oot when link warns zelda about ganondorf theroyal people cant execute ganon because they dont have the light arrows so they banish him to the twilight realm thats where TP starts now about MM link just goes off some where els for a while thats not to say he doesnt go back to hyrule so basicly there doesnt need to be another game between MM and TP see what i mean?
playin4power 3 weeks ago
@playin4power but maybe there is.
MrUBtrollin2 3 weeks ago in playlist More videos from YourHeroes
@MrUBtrollin2 im not saying to not make another game any zelda games awesome but its unneeded just trying to be a good zelda fan and correct whats needed
playin4power 3 weeks ago
Here's my theory (The missing peice between MM & TP) In majora's mask link is looking for his "lost friend" most likely Saria because navi was "like peace im done" and since Saria was a sage who helped seal ganon maybe they hooked up and screwed everything up somehow (makes sense since Zelda screwed alot up) and i could assume it's either those two because he was wandering around in the forest at the beggining of MM and at the -end-(I assume) However at the end there is a tree like creature..hm?
BraaschKelly 3 weeks ago
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BraaschKelly 3 weeks ago
@BraaschKelly I thought he was looking for Saria too, but it's been confirmed to be Navi in the Hyrule Historia.
Kenziex123 3 weeks ago
Good video, but in the end of ocarina of time, young link already have the triforce in his hand, maybe you already know this, or other user tell you, but I don't have time to read all the comentaries XD, anyway believe me, search pic, link have the triforce. But zelda and impa run away from the castle... so why she still there.... oh man so many question... XD by the way, I am a huge zelda nerd too
sergio171293 3 weeks ago
Dammit, Nintendo. Why did you hqve to mess with the Zelda story so much. Why couldn't you just do what you did with Mario and keep the same character in a steady time stream?
XxRedxAdrenalinexX 3 weeks ago
@XxRedxAdrenalinexX They did it for profit. They could ultimately keep making more alternate timelines of the already alternate timelines just to keep some sort of story line. So more games more profit.
BraaschKelly 3 weeks ago
@BraaschKelly actually, it's the other way around.
MrUBtrollin2 3 weeks ago in playlist More videos from YourHeroes
5:22 what explaintation could occur? as you said Link removes himself from there completeely and so removes the triforce of courage with him, how can the triforce be complete?
peetheoff 3 weeks ago
very good, clear in OoT!
tekkadagger 3 weeks ago
I dont get it. In SS link is a teen. In OOT he's a kid of a hylian mother that left him to grow up in Kokiri village...
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Klemeron 4 weeks ago
@Klemeron reincarnations, descendants, etc. not all of the links in the games are actually the same individual, but are very close to his likeness.
ThatOneGuyYouSaw15 4 weeks ago
@ThatOneGuyYouSaw15 Actually, this is debatable. I happen to think that it's one individual, but there are some that say there are different ones. Now that we have a timeline, I guess we can always still bat that theory around!
ItsaMeMissMario 1 week ago
It makes sense because in Skyward Sword he leaves the True Master Sword behind after unlocking it's full power in other words TRUE Master Sword and the the Temple where the sword is crumbles and then the Temple of Time is built around the sword and then Hyrule is built and it goes on from there.
G0o5eBuMpSFan 4 weeks ago
@RapidashedSWE That fit's with what i said about the flood and Lanyura provence. I also think that the temple of time in TP that you find in the forest is the same one in the sealed grounds of SS
Kazoid1337 1 month ago
After Playing SS I always thought that Lanyru province was the same one from TP but after the great flood it reaturned to it's state that you get to see it in when you use time crystals
Kazoid1337 1 month ago
What about the fact that you go pack in time in SS (Skyward Sword) Awesome vid by the way you explained everything and made sence!
Kazoid1337 1 month ago
for some reason the hero of time comes back after mm and needs the triforce for a war with gannon? thats how they end up sealing him in the sacret realm again in tp
MrTrexo2 1 month ago
@MrTrexo2 it'd be cool if gannon got mm and its power
MrTrexo2 1 month ago
You forgot the timeline where Link gets bombchus in the well using a cucco, that doesn't require him to get the master sword first. LOL
coresnake0 1 month ago
just like in star trek
bibipbi 1 month ago
this is realy good thanks for posting it
willbunch01 1 month ago
I think he is right. Maybe they translated it wrong. Defeated could mean non-existing.
twinklemuncher 1 month ago
Well done, but the third timeline has been translated as "the hero is defeated" and then childhood link and adult link... But you're pretty much still right... In a way
unclesamuelswish 1 month ago
if they were books, i would buy and read all of them
12rasalazar 1 month ago
Wut
VRPcheatmaster13 1 month ago
Wait... How can The Four Swords be before Ocarina of Time. The Four Sword is the reforged Master Sword after it has been destroyed, seeing as its not in the original Legend of Zelda and The Adventure of Link..
Zentrix97 1 month ago
@Zentrix97 Play the minish cap, you're horribly wrong.
windkai 1 month ago
@Zentrix97 i'm tired of people confusing the four sword with the master sword, THEY ARE NOT THE SAME. The PICORI BLADE IS THE FOUR SWORD, please stop confusing the two! Read up on your zelda lore, The picori blade was forged by the picori given to the hero of men, Vaati in the minish cap breaks that sword, then link in that game reforges the sword with the FOUR elements into the FOUR SWORD, which is why there are FOUR LINKS when you use its power.
windkai 1 month ago
@windkai well excuuuuuse me then Princess!
Zentrix97 1 month ago
How about the Mastersword? In the AF there is a master sword however he was sent back after OoT. In the Original timeline there is the mastersword in Link To The Past and in the AP there is the master sword again in Twilight Princess!!! THREE MASTER SWORDSZ?!
Excellent timeline! Love it! Clarified my nerdy Zelda mind. I'm looking forward to more Zelda stuff! Please keep it up!
rushblank 1 month ago
Where we're going we don't need carrots.
dirtearth 1 month ago
This does make sense, but I found just one problem. Just one. And that is that, in the future the windmill guy is pissed because a child played that song, although you can not play it until you travel back to the past. Which means that what you did in the past affected the original future, and not an alternate one. I think that Zelda sent Link to a different past, which makes the three timelines. I think that the mastersword sent him to his original, but the ocarina sent him to a different.
blackstarchronicles 1 month ago
@blackstarchronicles YES, thank you. I think so, too. Zelda can choose where/when she send Link back to.
ItsaMeMissMario 1 week ago
That actually makes sense. You mentioned that the official timeline hadnt been translated or something like that. Will you do an update if an official english statement on the timeline happens? Subscribing with hopes you will.
TreF68 1 month ago 3
@TreF68 I will. A lot of things have translated, but some of the translations don't make sense. I want an official translation from Nintendo...because there seems to be many mistakes. Thanks for watching.
YourHeroes 1 month ago 3
you don't need an extra game between the alternate past Oot and TP because TP explains that the sages attempt to execute Ganondorf, but are unsucsesful. And because of this, he's sent to the twilight world, but great video none the less!
ChristianMusician777 1 month ago
this is the best timeline explanation!!!!!!!!!!!!
AZAMENAZA 1 month ago 3
@AZAMENAZA Thank you. :D
YourHeroes 1 month ago
What happened to the scene where, after Link puts the Master Sword back into the pedestal, he's walking away from the chamber, and the Door of Time closes behind him? You completely left that scene out of your explanation, and just said about the very end as he's walking up to Zelda...
supermarble94 1 month ago
@supermarble94 In majoras mask there is a scene he remebers zelda and his memories come back when you get your ocarina form skull kid and i think that was the complete end.
TheVGGP 1 month ago
@TheVGGP Yes, but you said that Zelda sends Link back in time to before he got the Master Sword, but we clearly see Link walking away from the pedestal, having the Door of Time closing behind him. Explain that.
supermarble94 1 month ago
@supermarble94 What does that have to do with anything? Do you know what seen I was talking about?
TheVGGP 1 month ago
@TheVGGP No, but I do know what scene you're talking about... >.>
You're currently talking about a scene in Majora's Mask. I'm talking about the scene in Ocarina of Time, which is the scene directly preceding the very last scene where he walks up to Zelda and it just says Game Over. You completely omitted that scene from your explanation, and skipped to the "Game Over" scene, saying that's the last thing you see.
supermarble94 1 month ago
Saying that Zelda sends you back in time to before you meet her... She doesn't. She just sends you back in time one last time, then the door closes behind you, never allowing you to go forward again, so you can live your childhood...
supermarble94 1 month ago
@supermarble94 Ugh this is to hard to explain over typing! LOL Nevermind.
TheVGGP 1 month ago
this cant be right because you can go back and fourth through time as much times as you want, so therefore with your theory there would be multiple alternate pasts and multiple futures.
nmen42 1 month ago in playlist Zelda timeline
@nmen42 Yes but he is talking about the required things not the sidequest they don't count so much about story so tecnically you only need to go pack to the past as many times as he said you did.
Kazoid1337 1 month ago
i agree
5thkie1 1 month ago
you have the best timeline explanation that ive ever seen i got every thing that you said especially the alternate past and alternate future
mximumcrnaj 1 month ago
The only thing I don't understand is how the picori blade got turned into the four sword, then back to the master sword in ocarina of time, then eventually back to the four sword after twilight princess. Was this ever explained? Maybe the picori blade isnt the master sword at all, and of course there is room for games to explain that, but I feel like I'm missing something there.
dapancakeprodegy 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
I wish my math teacher would teach me this lmao sweet timeline exsplenation
AaronsGame 1 month ago
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INJproductions 1 month ago
Bravo.
Lucrei91 1 month ago
This thing actually makes a whole crap load of sense becuase in winkmaker he never came back ..... but basiclly its like difrrent dimensiones but its still sweet lol we all just love playing zelda..... quick question why is it caled zelda when Link does all the work???? thats kind of mean XD it shuold be called legend of Link (just saying) >w<
DavidRamirezgringo 1 month ago
I really wish this were the case but as it turns out, the third split is the result of Link actually being defeated by Ganondorf. There's even a page called the deciding battle.
VeganAmazing 1 month ago
Hang on. I need to smoke some weed to follow this.
matheuslike9 1 month ago
You need to watch LOST. Please
MysteryBoxFilms1 1 month ago
Great video. I really enjoyed it
MikeRoss360 1 month ago
Good Video ! I have the same conclusion than you. You just help me to confirmed my Timeline Theory and the one of the OoT Events :)
MaximK20 1 month ago
lol bro your overthinking it. legend of zelda wasnt really made to make sense. it was made to just be awesome. if you think about it all of the physics in the game are bullshit. that is unless the theory that alternate dimension have seperate rules but that highly unlikely. for example, why is lake hyrule so damn far away from the forest if it is a part of the forest? and why all of a sudden did the desert change its name 3 times? was it self consious? your not really supposed to know.
SacredStoddard 1 month ago
@SacredStoddard True but you gotta admit, isn't it fun trying to piece everything together like a big ass puzzle? This pretty much just gives fans something else to do that'll keep em hype about the next Zelda game and past ones as well, but you are right. To quote what James said, "Yeah its fun, but its not worth a waste of sleep."
KayinKento 1 month ago
About how you said Link made changes in the past after learning the song of storms and then getting the lens of truth... that doesn't lead to an alternate future. The original future already applies all the things Link does when he goes back to the past. Remember how when you first go to the future, and you go in the windmill, the crazy guy who plays that instrument says that a kid played a song a long time ago? That's what Link does when he goes back to the past. It's not an alternate future.
AmirTunes 1 month ago
Wow, its about time someone actually explains how time travel works, basically because of freewill, there is no straight line that represents time, only by a person's perspective does time seem like a straight line. Not sure why in the world some actually didn't even believe a split timeline was possible to begin with.
In any case, now that figuring out the timeline is "done", I suppose its time to find out what's wrong with the official timeline. I'm all ears people =3
KayinKento 1 month ago
generally what i believe but i would have said that WW falls in with the AP. Sicne Link was off in the events of MM, Ganon breaks out and the gods seal off and flood hyrule. pretty good though
emachine310 1 month ago
I think you got it wrong. Link never creates an alternate future because hes already in that future. When adult link first met the windmill guy, in that timeline, child link already played song of storms for him. So before link could even do it in the past, it was already done in the future. So I dont c y him going back to the spirit temple would be any different. The only split that happens is when zelda sends him even further back than when he pulled the master sword.
soniti80 1 month ago
Ive never been i huge zelda fan, but used to enjoy playing the early games but does this mean the games were not released in the same order as the timelines go?
InTerGaLacTiX11 1 month ago
hints the words "hero fails"
RareJUNKIE360 1 month ago
there's a what IF timeline where Link dies (hypothetical future)
RareJUNKIE360 1 month ago
Best explanation of the Zelda timeline I ever known. Confusing but clear at the same time!
Tempochrome 1 month ago
okay i have been watching video after video of this Zelda Timeline
and no ONE HAS"T KNOWEST ONE GAME MISSING no not the CDI Zelda
i can still see how BS The Legend of Zelda: Kodai no Sekiban aka The Legend of Zelda Ancient Stone Tablets is to a very unknown game to american,
BS The Legend of Zelda: Kodai no Sekiban was broadcast over Satellaview by Nintendo in Japan in 1997
look it up it was a sequel to A Link To The Past
DraBahamutShirocenny 1 month ago
Overall, I really like this video and your theory. I've also heard that the ALttP timeline is hypothetical, but I like your idea better. The one thing I have against it is your insistence that there needs to be a game between MM and TP. In TP, the scene of Ganondorf's execution seems to show that no one expected him to have the Triforce (including himself), but he does, hinting that he was always meant to have it, even without stealing it, which fits the eternal battle between Hylia and Demise.
Mehzers 1 month ago
@Mehzers I like that theory very true :D!
Kazoid1337 1 month ago
NERDGASM
MrWoofless 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@MrWoofless I was dubbed the Hero of Timelines! I need to work for Nintendo. Woofless, get me the job there.
YourHeroes 1 month ago 5
@YourHeroes This made perfectly sense dude :D The BEST timeline explantion ever!
PS: If you have a 3DS please can I add you as a friend?
dagks 1 month ago
that made a lot of sense actulley. But I was wondering from SS to OOT how many links are their? Could you help me out?
AlexWade123 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
I am so fucking lost.....
@_@
XINKAI 1 month ago
Whoa..
Now i find how this works..
THANKS!
LindiTheGameMaster 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@RapidashedSWE nope they never explaine who was that shade. and he is not called hero's shade. thats is speculations made by unofficial timelines theoricist.
in TP the only mention of a past hero was the emblematic green tunic that represent Skyward sword hero. hero chosen by the goddess(originally).
Atstyle 1 month ago
wow thats pretty deep, thanks man :D i totally get it now
DragonMasterK711 1 month ago
*slow clapping*
firestar0691 1 month ago
AND WHERE ARE THE CD-I ZELDA GAMES?
RedBlueChannel 1 month ago 15
@RedBlueChannel nintendo doesnt consider them part of the timeline because nintendo had no part in making them
JaredJavanSaenz 1 month ago
@RedBlueChannel Nintendo doesn't acknowledge those three at all.
LittleAl016 1 month ago
@RedBlueChannel in a land fill by now
TheGreatPumkin16 1 month ago
@RedBlueChannel They are not "real official" Zelda games, so... Yeah.
MrsLedgerDepp 1 month ago
@RedBlueChannel THOSE ARE TO BE NEVER SPOKEN OF AND SHOULD BE BURNED IN A FLAMING HOLE.
blaeds12 1 month ago