@fike301 My FiveseveN is just used for relaxing at the range and dabbling with handloads. It would be cool to use it for Action Pistol competition but I'm not sure the other guys would appreciate the higher velocity bullets hitting their plates.
It's a little large for concealed carry but if the physical size as it relates to comfort were not an issue I would feel extremely well protected with this firearm.
@theKGB65 Higher velocity ...LMAO it' a .22mag It would never make Major Caliber, and that little round doesn't have the effect on steel that 115 gr 9mm bulk ammo has
@BlackandChrome These are challenging to reload due to the small case volume and sensitivity to charge weight variances. Also, the coating that lubricates the case gets rough from the expansion of the brass when the cartridge is first fired so subsequent hand-loaded rounds don't always make the 90 degree turn on the PS90 mags and don't like to feed well for the first few shots if you try to run a full mag in the FiveseveN pistol.
Had a few loose primer pockets but never a resizing problem.
Was indecisive about getting one of these or trading in my AR and building a new one... Especially the fact that it's 1100 for a plastic pistol ;x But I can say that I amn for sure going to get one now.
I would buy one of these in a heartbeat. But buyer beware that the ammo is usually pretty expensive, with the norm being around 50-55 cents/round even for the cheap stuff.
If you handload, it gets a little better -- specially since you can use standard .224-bullets like in yer .223/5.56. :D
Great video friend. You covered answered almost all my questions. But i have one. I'm going to buy it for every day carry but i'm worried about it going through an attacker and hitting an innocent person or going through my aparment wall. What do you think. Thanks Again...
I like shooting at this distant as well and its so flat that it does it beautifully. I ususally shoot between 100-130 yards unsupported and can easily hit ispc targets at that range. an amazing gun and so fun to shoot.
WOW, that's a pretty gun!! Although you may not have been able to see it throught the viewfinder, from my perspective, you pierced his nose, lip, and gave him a tracheotomy. Nice shooting. Enjoy the pistol!!
good shooting ! I really enjoyed the vid. I always wanted a pistol that can shoot at 100 yards just because it could and I see that the FN is very capable of doing that. I've been debating on getting one and this video really helped me out. Thanks for the great review and video.
@DivineDestroid That's actually a very good question! Here's Hornady's explanation from their excellent web site:
V-Max™
The industry's leading varmint bullet with polymer tip and streamlined design results in ultra flat trajectories. The match grade jacket design provides maximum accuracy at all ranges as well as explosive expansion, even at low velocities.
I have been reloading for a while and am thinking of trying my hand at the 5.7 so i can start saving some money. Could you do a video on loading them?
@07devildoc If you search my YouTube channel uploads for "5.7" you'll see a (sort of) handloading video that I made back in 2010. Not a lot of substance but I feel like I'd have to really dig in before I'm qualified to make a detailed informational video.
There are so many little tricks to this cartridge that guys are coming up with. I'd like to look into super-gluing the bullets in an attempt to get more consistent velocities. Factory ammo seems to be better than handloads in this respect.
I am a straight 1911 .45 bigot, but after trading my used poly framed pro tenII for an IOM USG NIB and after firing I wouldn't have it any other way... My remaining prized 1911's are relegated to target shooting and display. That kimber was great but the five seven is a master of a pistol with hardly any equal in long range accuracy that isn't a light carbine or rifle. wonderful and very informative video video.
si yo tengo una jericho 941 que es relativamente una buena arma.pero cuando he tenido que utilizarla resulta que su poder es minimo con respecto al arma con el cual le estan disparando a uno.saliendo de una zona dificil de mi pais en el departamento del caqueta nos intentaron asaltar resulta que los atracadores venian con ak47 y algunos con fusiles m16 que son facilisimos de conseguir para los bandidos.imaginese como nos fue gracias a la preparacion del conductor logramos salir bien.
If i have a jericó 941 which is a relatively good weapon . but when i had to use it is that his power is minimal in relation to the weapon with which you are shooting at one . coming out of a difficult area of my country in the department of caqueta we attempted to storm is that the robbers came with ak47 and some with m16 rifles that are Freeform for bandits. imagine how we was thanks to the preparation of the driver succeeded in getting out well .
@Ratkill9000 20 round mag's but once fired brass won't feed if you load them full. The chemical they coat the factory cartridges with gets a rough-ish texture from expanding in the chamber and it won't come off with polishing media.
q buen video soy colombiano y aunque no son legales en este pais se ven muchas en las zonas que frecuento por mi actividad comercial y son una belleza.pensar que nos tenemos que conformar con una jericho 941 o una walther p22 q son las que venden legalmente a unos precios ridiculos jericho a 2000 dolares y walther a 1500 dolares que tal.
@rockstarr469 I'd feel well protected using SS197 40-grain V-max polymer tipped factory ammo.
You probably wouldn't want to use the 27 grain SS195LF frangible hollow point ammo for self defense, that's intended more for use as a lead-free indoor practice round.
@03xUSMCx11 Those are hardened steel pepper-poppers that were left behind by a group of law enforcement officers who had been training at the range. Normally they flip back easily when hit and then slowly reset but the ones on the left side were angled forward on a slight hill and wouldn't operate properly.
i by no means am trying to disrespect but does this gun feel kinda flimsy or cheap... it seems like there is a lot of polymer or plastics surrounding the whole piece... to me if i dropped it, then it might seem likely to scratch of get damaged easier.. tell me how you feel
@JimBoopLoop i thought the same thing might be true also. But after now owning one for over 3 yrs i'm now a firm believer in the toughness of space age polymer technology. Polymers are definitly not the same as cheap plastic you find in kids toys. Imo polymer is much more durable than steel and totally corrosion resistant.. have no wear or scratches that can be seen in over 3 yrs of owning mine. something i can't say about my stel gun. Also to let you know its light but well made
@tophiloliver Wind, or traffic on the highway, maybe. I placed barricades with a "SILENCE! - YouTube video in progress" sign across the road, but nobody cared.
@dillondailynews I think they have a name for that... Thompson Contender, haha. Yea, that really would be a nice option for this package, maybe I should try using my EOTECH on this thing and see if it helps at long range.
I have a question about the fn five-seven. I was reading this on one of the online store where they sale FNH weapons and came across these...."Factory sighted-in to shoot 1-inch low at 21-feet with SS195LF ammo, and 3-inches below line of sight with SS197SR ammo."
@waimanjr Any gun sighted to 25 yards will shoot low at only seven yards because of the height of the sights above the bore axis but the fact that they would say where it hits with what ammo seems unusual, especially since these have adjustable sights.
@waimanjr Okay... That model has fixed sights and they are just telling you how they're set up from the factory. If your reason for buying one of these is self-defense only and use it for shooting combat sized targets and steel plates you'd be perfectly fine. If you like to shoot tiny little targets like I do, having the fixed sights that print 3" low at 21 feet with the SS-197 would drive you insane. You wouldn't be able to index on a small target because it would be hidden behind the sights.
alright, i see now. So i would want to get the adjustable ones because i will be shooting both small and big targets. Do you know if it would be better to have adjustable night sights?
@waimanjr I've got adjustable night sights on my Glock 20C but I don't thing they're all that essential, just cool looking. The factory adjustable sights on this FiveSeven are very nice but if you have your heart set on combat night sights you could buy an aftermarket set of fixed night sights that are the proper size for point of aim accuracy with the SS197.
@nominalvelocity Thanks, I should have scripted this one to keep it moving along but I'd originally only intended on showing what it could do on steel at long range.
I love my Five-seveN. It is probably one of the best handgun ever made in my opinion. I did a video on mine about a month ago. I talk about the short history about it, shoot it, and talk about its uses. Check out my channel if anyone is interested.
Hornady Custom Grade "New Dimension" full length dies and Accurate #7 powder because they were the only company to publish data when I started with this caliber. If there is a company that makes non-coated shell casings for 5.7x28 I would very much like to give them a try. Until then, just wash or hand clean the brass because I haven't heard of a process for removing the coating as of yet.
Which bullet die and shell holder have you been using to reload? Also, which powder have you had the best results with? I bought an RCBS die/shellholder and the clearance is too tight with the lacquer on the brass (it crushes the brass and the shell holder damages the ejector lip)... Everything I've read, they say not to remove it. What do you suggest?
@AmendmentNo2 Thank you, it's my Sony Handycam, HDR-CX110. It only allows three seconds of slow motion so you have to push the record button and get on the trigger fast.
Right as I said "Wow, that really was a great video", the candy came up at the end and I said "HOLY CRAP THIS VIDEO JUST GOT 10x BETTER AND IDK HOW IT COULD!"
@tnoutdoors9 Thanks, if only I had shortened it by about twelve minutes! Ha, ha. Yea, the candy was definitely put in for you. Your video with Artisan Tony had me hooked on this stuff for a while, had to go through detox to shake the Wonka monkey off my back.
I really enjoyed your video. Thats a really fascinating gun. The rounds look like rifle rounds. I wonder what the non armour piercing rounds would be like as a defensive load. I've looked but haven't been able to get any info on that.
Sweet gun and a great video. I didn't know about the hammer in the 5seven. What does it cost you to reload vs. buying standard ss197 from FN? I've looked at buying this gun for a long time but I always seem to go back to the price of the ammo that sways me against it.
@wolvee123 Not exactly sure on the current price, it depends on what kind of bulk deal you can get on .224 bullets in 35 to 40 grains. It's about the same cost as hand-loading 9mm with premium bullets. The catch is that you really have to be into reloading tiny little soft brass, crimped primer, bottle-neck cases. The luster is starting to diminish for me but it was an interesting challenge getting into this caliber. Last time I checked, factory new 5.7x28 was going for around $21 for 50.
@lovesigsauer Thanks, I see by your user name that you are a Sig guy. I tried to make a video with my P226 yesterday but there was too much activity at the range. I'll bring it out again soon.
Outstanding video! Great explanation, presentation and great use of the slow motion video. Keep 'em coming! Like most on here, I would love to afford this gun. Not real "pretty", but it is definitely cool.
@leakyvalve That's the air pressure disturbance caused by the high velocity bullet. It's one of the reasons I find the FN USG so interesting, it's smoking fast muzzle speed.
@catlinm123 There are several sources for that stuff that I use depending on price and availability. Bullets for this cartridge have been from Midway USA, primers are a bulk, group purchase, powder is either local or bulk, and casings are just my empty factory rounds.
@SupremeAmerican Obama's administration tried to ban these after the Fort Hood shooting. That is the sort of impending legislation against the 5.7 is what lead me to hurry up and get one while they were still available. We really won't have to worry about that happening in the next couple of years, though. Time is on your side.
@gshdrums The polymer tipped Hornady V-max bullets mushroom like a hollow point in test media because of the very high velocity. Supposedly these do work well for that purpose and some law enforcement agencies are using this cartridge, including the US Secret Service (P90). It must be starting to get cold down there in Australia by now, hey? Now it's our turn in the sun!
@theKGB65 Yeh the last month its started....mind you it only gets to about 2 degress minimum and thats usually at 4am when everyone is asleep, in the day and normal night its about 9 absolute minimum.....so still nothing like your winter.....But it has been raining alot which is helping us!
@gshdrums That's pretty cool... Celsius temperature, southern hemisphere, half way around the world, and to think that all of our YouTube shooting bud's are only seconds away on the keyboard.
Holy crap man, you really worked the slow-mo on that Sony CX-110; I have never tried that. You could very much see the vapor trail. Were you slowing down those segments any further, or were those the raw files?
And what's all that green stuff in your videos nowadays?
@tnoutdoors9 The slow clips were shot in the SMTH SLW REC mode and then stretched to their maximum using Sony Vegas. It was really a thrill to see bullet trace from a pistol when I was reviewing the raw video.
That greed stuff goes with the red welts on my arms, mosquito season. Thank you for checking this out!
@windflags Yes, sir. I've done extensive work on the chronograph. The pressure curve is way too wild to push these to the limit. Plus, the velocity range from a nice accurate load to maximum brass stretching pressure is relatively tiny. I've settled on a load with the 40 V-max that is at the low pressure end but, if I remember correctly, was still a bit warmer than factory, and it gives me dime sized groups from my PS90 at 25 YDS.
@IanRI1911 These 40 grain pills are too small to be visible at this distance, what you are seeing is the air pressure disturbance which causes an optical refraction of the light in the bullet path. This phenomenon is known as bullet trace and is really only noticeable when bullets are traveling at rifle velocities. The big .45s are visible but will not be as spectacular on video. Tell you what, though, I'll cook something up and do flight comparisons of a .45 up to, maybe a .50 BMG rifle.
excellent video KGB,very entertaining,didnt feel like it was 13 mins long.nice slow motion..you need to sign off with the flame thrower, 500 mag every vid in slo-mo, now that would be end-all
@phishst1cks Did I really make a 13 minute long video?! I usually try for about four. I'll just have to make four one-minute videos in a row to make up the difference. That 10 gauge you have on your channel makes the 500 Mag seem like a Lady-Smith. What I'd really like to do is steal your sign-off..."I'M OUT".
Hey Brother, I see that you left the Oakley's at home this time, are you trying to tell me that your hearing is mire important than looking cool ;D my damn X Metal's get me every time, that's why I have a can of foam plugs stuck in the door panel of the truck. When packing I always forget that the glasses will end up killing my ears later, without the foam I'd be wrecked. Thanks for the in depth look at the 5.7, vie been curious about them for a long time, thought that they looked cheap until I
@1AbominAble1 It's funny you mentioned that because when I was getting geared up for this video I thought about your comment on the Oakleys from my SCAR 17s video. Yea, the Five-Seven has a pretty good muzzle report so I made sure I didn't make the same mistake with those glasses. Foam plugs are really good, I use them too, but when I'm on camera I've got to be able to hear myself mumbling and stuttering.
great shootin and loved the slow motion part... I just have to say DANG, thats a flat shooter! I may have prematurely dismissed the 5.7x28 haha may have to dig out some load data and reevaluate my standing with that little cartridge. Thanks for another fun vid KGB65
@bfgguns I don't know about these FN pistols but some of the other polymer guns have proven to be almost indestructible, supposedly even after more than a million rounds. I can't afford to shoot a pistol to death so it doesn't matter to me, I just like the shape, feel, and light weight of these. Same with rifles, love the lightweight polymer.
Trick to catching bullet trace is focus the camera lens 8-12 yards in front of the target. Aim it high and over the target right shoulder to see it.. Trace is clearly seen in the earlier hours when there is a high humidity. Are those goggles from HALO?;)
@bronk5150 No, they're the next generation of Blue-Blocker and chicks really dig 'em. Actually, these are the only kind that don't push out on my hearing protection.
great video now after watching it i cant wait to get my 57 back out on the range
SuperJordan10000 1 week ago
Do you carry the 5.7 concealed or hunt with it?
fike301 1 week ago
@fike301 My FiveseveN is just used for relaxing at the range and dabbling with handloads. It would be cool to use it for Action Pistol competition but I'm not sure the other guys would appreciate the higher velocity bullets hitting their plates.
It's a little large for concealed carry but if the physical size as it relates to comfort were not an issue I would feel extremely well protected with this firearm.
theKGB65 1 week ago
@theKGB65 Higher velocity ...LMAO it' a .22mag It would never make Major Caliber, and that little round doesn't have the effect on steel that 115 gr 9mm bulk ammo has
unknwnshooter 2 days ago
@unknwnshooter It's a .22 Mag as much as a Glock is a plastic gun that gets through airport metal detectors.
Expensive heat treated steel doesn't fair well with bullet impacts at 2000+ FPS velocities.
theKGB65 2 days ago
How is the reloading? I hear they have a tendency to jam if the brass is not appropriately resized.
BlackandChrome 1 week ago
@BlackandChrome These are challenging to reload due to the small case volume and sensitivity to charge weight variances. Also, the coating that lubricates the case gets rough from the expansion of the brass when the cartridge is first fired so subsequent hand-loaded rounds don't always make the 90 degree turn on the PS90 mags and don't like to feed well for the first few shots if you try to run a full mag in the FiveseveN pistol.
Had a few loose primer pockets but never a resizing problem.
theKGB65 1 week ago
u got some skills
lordrydz 2 weeks ago
Love the video especially the slow motion. You can actually see the bullet and the trail it's making in the air :-D
wowletmeloggin 2 weeks ago
Impressed. Nice gun. I couldn't shoot that far with my eyesite. Lol.
Wleengineer07 2 weeks ago
@Wleengineer07 That's coming quick for me, too. Seems like I won't be able to focus on the front sight in a few more years the way things are going.
theKGB65 2 weeks ago
excellent shooting my friend.
sssssjjjj1 2 weeks ago
awshum
NWFloridaPrepper 2 weeks ago
the price for it is killing me though :|
EliteBushido 2 weeks ago
Can you put a suppressor on the FN 5-7 if you get a threaded barrel???
TikiBillaBong1 2 weeks ago
@TikiBillaBong1 Yes but I don't know what it takes to get the velocity sub-sonic. Probably some careful handloading with 55 grain bullets.
theKGB65 2 weeks ago
Very nice pistol. Great job on the video!
Despized 2 weeks ago
Was indecisive about getting one of these or trading in my AR and building a new one... Especially the fact that it's 1100 for a plastic pistol ;x But I can say that I amn for sure going to get one now.
EnemaBulIdozer 2 weeks ago
the ending with the slowmo shots was sick!
awesome video and thanks for the review! :)
Fourteen88SoCal 2 weeks ago
From 11:35 on was pretty cool.
INbredMonarchy 2 weeks ago
I would buy one of these in a heartbeat. But buyer beware that the ammo is usually pretty expensive, with the norm being around 50-55 cents/round even for the cheap stuff.
If you handload, it gets a little better -- specially since you can use standard .224-bullets like in yer .223/5.56. :D
Excedrine 2 weeks ago
Great video friend. You covered answered almost all my questions. But i have one. I'm going to buy it for every day carry but i'm worried about it going through an attacker and hitting an innocent person or going through my aparment wall. What do you think. Thanks Again...
DirtyDog887 3 weeks ago
@DirtyDog887 These fast 40gn. polymer-tipped bullets are considered to be resistant to over-penetration.
Options such as custom 5.7x28 by companies like Elite Ammunition are beginning to show up on the market.
theKGB65 3 weeks ago
I like shooting at this distant as well and its so flat that it does it beautifully. I ususally shoot between 100-130 yards unsupported and can easily hit ispc targets at that range. an amazing gun and so fun to shoot.
silverfd 3 weeks ago
I wish this is how it would sound like in mw3
Jgordonfan2458 3 weeks ago
WOW, that's a pretty gun!! Although you may not have been able to see it throught the viewfinder, from my perspective, you pierced his nose, lip, and gave him a tracheotomy. Nice shooting. Enjoy the pistol!!
CrackaJack2200 3 weeks ago
@CrackaJack2200 Thank you for the autopsy! haha.
theKGB65 3 weeks ago
Is it good for home defense?
Matashi911 3 weeks ago
@Matashi911 Its what i use. Have light laser combo with 30 round mag.
mntofdk66 3 weeks ago
nice i want one.
tserfass9 4 weeks ago
The slow motion is where it is at! Awesome!
JCassidy3383 1 month ago
good shooting ! I really enjoyed the vid. I always wanted a pistol that can shoot at 100 yards just because it could and I see that the FN is very capable of doing that. I've been debating on getting one and this video really helped me out. Thanks for the great review and video.
stirfry0627 1 month ago
This may be a bit a a stupid question, but why is there a polymer tip on the ammunition? Does it affect it compared to having to polymer tip?
DivineDestroid 1 month ago
@DivineDestroid That's actually a very good question! Here's Hornady's explanation from their excellent web site:
V-Max™
The industry's leading varmint bullet with polymer tip and streamlined design results in ultra flat trajectories. The match grade jacket design provides maximum accuracy at all ranges as well as explosive expansion, even at low velocities.
theKGB65 1 month ago
I have been reloading for a while and am thinking of trying my hand at the 5.7 so i can start saving some money. Could you do a video on loading them?
07devildoc 1 month ago
@07devildoc If you search my YouTube channel uploads for "5.7" you'll see a (sort of) handloading video that I made back in 2010. Not a lot of substance but I feel like I'd have to really dig in before I'm qualified to make a detailed informational video.
There are so many little tricks to this cartridge that guys are coming up with. I'd like to look into super-gluing the bullets in an attempt to get more consistent velocities. Factory ammo seems to be better than handloads in this respect.
theKGB65 1 month ago
I am a straight 1911 .45 bigot, but after trading my used poly framed pro tenII for an IOM USG NIB and after firing I wouldn't have it any other way... My remaining prized 1911's are relegated to target shooting and display. That kimber was great but the five seven is a master of a pistol with hardly any equal in long range accuracy that isn't a light carbine or rifle. wonderful and very informative video video.
booyalakasha1 1 month ago
@booyalakasha1 Well, that's pretty cool, you definitely have both ends of the spectrum covered now!
theKGB65 1 month ago
si yo tengo una jericho 941 que es relativamente una buena arma.pero cuando he tenido que utilizarla resulta que su poder es minimo con respecto al arma con el cual le estan disparando a uno.saliendo de una zona dificil de mi pais en el departamento del caqueta nos intentaron asaltar resulta que los atracadores venian con ak47 y algunos con fusiles m16 que son facilisimos de conseguir para los bandidos.imaginese como nos fue gracias a la preparacion del conductor logramos salir bien.
inversionessantosmon 1 month ago
@inversionessantosmon Risky life in Columbia:
If i have a jericó 941 which is a relatively good weapon . but when i had to use it is that his power is minimal in relation to the weapon with which you are shooting at one . coming out of a difficult area of my country in the department of caqueta we attempted to storm is that the robbers came with ak47 and some with m16 rifles that are Freeform for bandits. imagine how we was thanks to the preparation of the driver succeeded in getting out well .
theKGB65 1 month ago
YOu use a 10 rounds restricted mag or a standard 20 round?
Ratkill9000 1 month ago
@Ratkill9000 20 round mag's but once fired brass won't feed if you load them full. The chemical they coat the factory cartridges with gets a rough-ish texture from expanding in the chamber and it won't come off with polishing media.
theKGB65 1 month ago
q buen video soy colombiano y aunque no son legales en este pais se ven muchas en las zonas que frecuento por mi actividad comercial y son una belleza.pensar que nos tenemos que conformar con una jericho 941 o una walther p22 q son las que venden legalmente a unos precios ridiculos jericho a 2000 dolares y walther a 1500 dolares que tal.
inversionessantosmon 1 month ago
@inversionessantosmon Sí, 1.500 dólares americanos sería demasiado caro en este país por un P22 Walther. Aquí cuestan alrededor de $ 350.
theKGB65 1 month ago
What rounds would you use for CCW? Do they make a hollow-point for this round?
rockstarr469 1 month ago
@rockstarr469 I'd feel well protected using SS197 40-grain V-max polymer tipped factory ammo.
You probably wouldn't want to use the 27 grain SS195LF frangible hollow point ammo for self defense, that's intended more for use as a lead-free indoor practice round.
theKGB65 1 month ago
@DicesAreRed Thank you. That is a good remark because the fit and finish of the FN firearms are very H&K-like.
Recently held an HK416 for the first time and it was so beautiful in every detail that if I owned one I'd want to display it in a glass case.
theKGB65 1 month ago
Wow great shooting, good video. Lmao, varmit grenades!
GrantP1986 1 month ago
@GrantP1986 We hunt with Barnes copper X-bullets, we call those - "Deer Grenades".
theKGB65 1 month ago
I like those orange targets. Did you make those yourself or were they bought? Any details?
03xUSMCx11 1 month ago
@03xUSMCx11 Those are hardened steel pepper-poppers that were left behind by a group of law enforcement officers who had been training at the range. Normally they flip back easily when hit and then slowly reset but the ones on the left side were angled forward on a slight hill and wouldn't operate properly.
theKGB65 1 month ago
Is the FN five-seven legal in california?
Minataro57 1 month ago
@Minataro57 It doesn't seem like anything is legal in CA anymore.
California won't like the thumb-hole stock, overall length, or the flash suppressor.
theKGB65 1 month ago
@theKGB65 Strike that, I was thinking of the FN PS90 - wrong video.
theKGB65 1 month ago
@Minataro57 yea, but the mag is 10 rds instead of 20.
syphiloid 1 month ago
@Minataro57
yes it is legal in California,
it is on the California safe handgun roster.
rascalgto1 1 month ago
@Minataro57 Please ignore my reply, answering lot's of questions and PMs - I mistakenly thought this was in regard to my FN PS90 video. My mistake.
theKGB65 1 month ago
i by no means am trying to disrespect but does this gun feel kinda flimsy or cheap... it seems like there is a lot of polymer or plastics surrounding the whole piece... to me if i dropped it, then it might seem likely to scratch of get damaged easier.. tell me how you feel
JimBoopLoop 1 month ago
@JimBoopLoop i thought the same thing might be true also. But after now owning one for over 3 yrs i'm now a firm believer in the toughness of space age polymer technology. Polymers are definitly not the same as cheap plastic you find in kids toys. Imo polymer is much more durable than steel and totally corrosion resistant.. have no wear or scratches that can be seen in over 3 yrs of owning mine. something i can't say about my stel gun. Also to let you know its light but well made
lamont0414 1 month ago
@lamont0414 right thanks for the insight i love these guns
JimBoopLoop 1 month ago
esta a toda madre la fusca
gggggaaaaarrrrrsssss 1 month ago
I can hear the Space Shuttle taking off in the background...
TommyHolly1 2 months ago
@TommyHolly1 Unfortunately we don't have any of those any more. I think you hear wind in the microphone.
tophiloliver 2 months ago
@tophiloliver Wind, or traffic on the highway, maybe. I placed barricades with a "SILENCE! - YouTube video in progress" sign across the road, but nobody cared.
theKGB65 2 months ago
2000 fps on a p90 rifle barrel , with a 4 and a half inch barrel you are looking at about 1450fps
XpensiveHobbies 2 months ago
@XpensiveHobbies
Accurate Powder's published handload data for a 5" barrel, 1 in 9" twist:
No.7, 40 HDY V-MAX-- 6.1 grains - 1,679 FPS, 6.8 grains - 1,880 FPS
No.7 35 HDY V-MAX FB-- 7.4 grains 2,041 FPS, 8.2 grains - 2,197 FPS
theKGB65 2 months ago
talk about a dream shooting range
magpie2015 2 months ago
I wonder what you could shoot with a 3-4 inch extended barrel and a 3x mini scope on the top of sorts..
dillondailynews 3 months ago
@dillondailynews I think they have a name for that... Thompson Contender, haha. Yea, that really would be a nice option for this package, maybe I should try using my EOTECH on this thing and see if it helps at long range.
theKGB65 3 months ago
I have a question about the fn five-seven. I was reading this on one of the online store where they sale FNH weapons and came across these...."Factory sighted-in to shoot 1-inch low at 21-feet with SS195LF ammo, and 3-inches below line of sight with SS197SR ammo."
Why did they decide to do this?
waimanjr 3 months ago
@waimanjr Any gun sighted to 25 yards will shoot low at only seven yards because of the height of the sights above the bore axis but the fact that they would say where it hits with what ammo seems unusual, especially since these have adjustable sights.
theKGB65 3 months ago
@theKGB65
fivesevenammo (.com)
this is the website where i found the information. But even at 21ft you would still be able to hit the target dead on....regardless of ammo, right?
waimanjr 3 months ago
@waimanjr Okay... That model has fixed sights and they are just telling you how they're set up from the factory. If your reason for buying one of these is self-defense only and use it for shooting combat sized targets and steel plates you'd be perfectly fine. If you like to shoot tiny little targets like I do, having the fixed sights that print 3" low at 21 feet with the SS-197 would drive you insane. You wouldn't be able to index on a small target because it would be hidden behind the sights.
theKGB65 3 months ago
@theKGB65
alright, i see now. So i would want to get the adjustable ones because i will be shooting both small and big targets. Do you know if it would be better to have adjustable night sights?
waimanjr 3 months ago
@waimanjr I've got adjustable night sights on my Glock 20C but I don't thing they're all that essential, just cool looking. The factory adjustable sights on this FiveSeven are very nice but if you have your heart set on combat night sights you could buy an aftermarket set of fixed night sights that are the proper size for point of aim accuracy with the SS197.
theKGB65 3 months ago
@theKGB65
thanks for the help. hope i will get mine soon.
thank you!
waimanjr 3 months ago
Awesome! Great vid. *like*. I'm getting my probationary pistol licence soon- this might have to be my first pistol. They're US$1900 here in Austrlia
tfre3927 3 months ago
@tfre3927 Good to hear! If you have caliber bore diameter restrictions in your country then this would be a good one to go with.
theKGB65 3 months ago
Great video, I really enjoyed it. Easily the best review/shooting video of the 5.7 I've ever seen.
nominalvelocity 3 months ago 2
@nominalvelocity Thanks, I should have scripted this one to keep it moving along but I'd originally only intended on showing what it could do on steel at long range.
theKGB65 3 months ago
I love my Five-seveN. It is probably one of the best handgun ever made in my opinion. I did a video on mine about a month ago. I talk about the short history about it, shoot it, and talk about its uses. Check out my channel if anyone is interested.
birdshot1911 4 months ago
at 10:00 you can actually see the bullets flying towards the head (look at the left side of the video). What's the fps rating on that lead-free ammo?
JohnTheRipper2 4 months ago
@JohnTheRipper2 That's the bullet trace you're seeing. Muzzle velocity for the 27 grain lead-free is 2100 FPS.
theKGB65 4 months ago
Wow, non choppy slo-mo, thats a first on youtube !!! excellent video!
RyanHoulio 4 months ago
Hornady Custom Grade "New Dimension" full length dies and Accurate #7 powder because they were the only company to publish data when I started with this caliber. If there is a company that makes non-coated shell casings for 5.7x28 I would very much like to give them a try. Until then, just wash or hand clean the brass because I haven't heard of a process for removing the coating as of yet.
theKGB65 4 months ago
Which bullet die and shell holder have you been using to reload? Also, which powder have you had the best results with? I bought an RCBS die/shellholder and the clearance is too tight with the lacquer on the brass (it crushes the brass and the shell holder damages the ejector lip)... Everything I've read, they say not to remove it. What do you suggest?
davids122 4 months ago
One word to describe it - 'surgical' ... apparently these things are legal down here in Australia..... I WANT ONE !!!!! :-)
oneoctavelow 5 months ago
@oneoctavelow You should have one of every gun that's legal down there!!! Wonder why this one would be legal, must be the small caliber.
theKGB65 5 months ago
Damn those rounds were fast !!!
oneoctavelow 5 months ago
@oneoctavelow Yea, gravity doesn't get much time to work on those little pills when they get to the target, like... NOW!
theKGB65 5 months ago
great vid im highly interested in picking me one up soon as i get approved for my license...
tomamamao 5 months ago
@tomamamao It's a little pricey and costs a lot to feed but it sure is an interesting firearm; high quality, too. Have fun.
theKGB65 5 months ago
Great video, thanks for posting! What kind of camera did you use to get the slow-mo shots?
AmendmentNo2 5 months ago
@AmendmentNo2 Thank you, it's my Sony Handycam, HDR-CX110. It only allows three seconds of slow motion so you have to push the record button and get on the trigger fast.
theKGB65 5 months ago
Right as I said "Wow, that really was a great video", the candy came up at the end and I said "HOLY CRAP THIS VIDEO JUST GOT 10x BETTER AND IDK HOW IT COULD!"
Jak12600 5 months ago
@Jak12600 Then it's a good thing I stopped at the mini-mart on the way to the shooting range!
theKGB65 5 months ago
I had to watch this again to see your slow motion. Somehow I missed the candy on the first go-around!
This was just a great video; so many elements to it.
tnoutdoors9 6 months ago
@tnoutdoors9 Thanks, if only I had shortened it by about twelve minutes! Ha, ha. Yea, the candy was definitely put in for you. Your video with Artisan Tony had me hooked on this stuff for a while, had to go through detox to shake the Wonka monkey off my back.
theKGB65 6 months ago
I really enjoyed your video. Thats a really fascinating gun. The rounds look like rifle rounds. I wonder what the non armour piercing rounds would be like as a defensive load. I've looked but haven't been able to get any info on that.
mrfrosty3 6 months ago
Sweet gun and a great video. I didn't know about the hammer in the 5seven. What does it cost you to reload vs. buying standard ss197 from FN? I've looked at buying this gun for a long time but I always seem to go back to the price of the ammo that sways me against it.
wolvee123 6 months ago
@wolvee123 Not exactly sure on the current price, it depends on what kind of bulk deal you can get on .224 bullets in 35 to 40 grains. It's about the same cost as hand-loading 9mm with premium bullets. The catch is that you really have to be into reloading tiny little soft brass, crimped primer, bottle-neck cases. The luster is starting to diminish for me but it was an interesting challenge getting into this caliber. Last time I checked, factory new 5.7x28 was going for around $21 for 50.
theKGB65 6 months ago
Good shooting!
lovesigsauer 8 months ago
@lovesigsauer Thanks, I see by your user name that you are a Sig guy. I tried to make a video with my P226 yesterday but there was too much activity at the range. I'll bring it out again soon.
theKGB65 8 months ago
Outstanding video! Great explanation, presentation and great use of the slow motion video. Keep 'em coming! Like most on here, I would love to afford this gun. Not real "pretty", but it is definitely cool.
hungdaemon 8 months ago
@hungdaemon Thanks for the support, I'll try to keep the camera rolling. Oh, and just for the record, Obama made me buy this gun.
theKGB65 8 months ago
oh I almost forgot what would this model generally cost?
leakyvalve 8 months ago
@leakyvalve $900 to $1000 Best to watch for sale prices on these.
theKGB65 8 months ago
If you watch closely you can see the bullet travel
leakyvalve 8 months ago
@leakyvalve That's the air pressure disturbance caused by the high velocity bullet. It's one of the reasons I find the FN USG so interesting, it's smoking fast muzzle speed.
theKGB65 8 months ago
Thanks I looked on midway cause I always get my bullet heads from there guess I didn't look hard enough thanks again
catlinm123 9 months ago
@catlinm123 You can buy the 40 grain Hornady V-Max in bulk packs of 250 from Midway.
theKGB65 9 months ago
were do you buy all your reload bullets and cases and primers?
catlinm123 9 months ago
@catlinm123 There are several sources for that stuff that I use depending on price and availability. Bullets for this cartridge have been from Midway USA, primers are a bulk, group purchase, powder is either local or bulk, and casings are just my empty factory rounds.
theKGB65 9 months ago
man i wish i could afford one of these. Perfect raccoon gun.
SupremeAmerican 9 months ago
@SupremeAmerican Obama's administration tried to ban these after the Fort Hood shooting. That is the sort of impending legislation against the 5.7 is what lead me to hurry up and get one while they were still available. We really won't have to worry about that happening in the next couple of years, though. Time is on your side.
theKGB65 9 months ago
KGB, these bullets are that quick and sharp it wouldnt be good for self defense yeh?
gshdrums 9 months ago
@gshdrums The polymer tipped Hornady V-max bullets mushroom like a hollow point in test media because of the very high velocity. Supposedly these do work well for that purpose and some law enforcement agencies are using this cartridge, including the US Secret Service (P90). It must be starting to get cold down there in Australia by now, hey? Now it's our turn in the sun!
theKGB65 9 months ago
@theKGB65 Yeh the last month its started....mind you it only gets to about 2 degress minimum and thats usually at 4am when everyone is asleep, in the day and normal night its about 9 absolute minimum.....so still nothing like your winter.....But it has been raining alot which is helping us!
gshdrums 9 months ago
@gshdrums That's pretty cool... Celsius temperature, southern hemisphere, half way around the world, and to think that all of our YouTube shooting bud's are only seconds away on the keyboard.
theKGB65 9 months ago
I've seen this gun in movies, Look's alot Larger.
TheLowrid3r 9 months ago
@TheLowrid3r It has a fairly long grip section to accommodate those long, mini-rifle cartridges.
theKGB65 9 months ago
Holy crap man, you really worked the slow-mo on that Sony CX-110; I have never tried that. You could very much see the vapor trail. Were you slowing down those segments any further, or were those the raw files?
And what's all that green stuff in your videos nowadays?
tnoutdoors9 9 months ago
@tnoutdoors9 The slow clips were shot in the SMTH SLW REC mode and then stretched to their maximum using Sony Vegas. It was really a thrill to see bullet trace from a pistol when I was reviewing the raw video.
That greed stuff goes with the red welts on my arms, mosquito season. Thank you for checking this out!
theKGB65 9 months ago
Have you shot your 5.7 over a chronograph? Can it be hopped up to FNH's intended velocity?
windflags 9 months ago
@windflags Yes, sir. I've done extensive work on the chronograph. The pressure curve is way too wild to push these to the limit. Plus, the velocity range from a nice accurate load to maximum brass stretching pressure is relatively tiny. I've settled on a load with the 40 V-max that is at the low pressure end but, if I remember correctly, was still a bit warmer than factory, and it gives me dime sized groups from my PS90 at 25 YDS.
theKGB65 9 months ago
awsome video
ocpistol 9 months ago
@ocpistol Glad you thought so, thanks.
theKGB65 9 months ago
Bullet flight showed surprisingly well, you should do some more of that. Maybe some big, slow .45s.
IanRI1911 9 months ago
@IanRI1911 These 40 grain pills are too small to be visible at this distance, what you are seeing is the air pressure disturbance which causes an optical refraction of the light in the bullet path. This phenomenon is known as bullet trace and is really only noticeable when bullets are traveling at rifle velocities. The big .45s are visible but will not be as spectacular on video. Tell you what, though, I'll cook something up and do flight comparisons of a .45 up to, maybe a .50 BMG rifle.
theKGB65 9 months ago
that is a very sexy gun.. i think i want one lol
j0enasser 9 months ago
@j0enasser Firearms... A sound investment, collect them all!
theKGB65 9 months ago
excellent video KGB,very entertaining,didnt feel like it was 13 mins long.nice slow motion..you need to sign off with the flame thrower, 500 mag every vid in slo-mo, now that would be end-all
phishst1cks 9 months ago
@phishst1cks Did I really make a 13 minute long video?! I usually try for about four. I'll just have to make four one-minute videos in a row to make up the difference. That 10 gauge you have on your channel makes the 500 Mag seem like a Lady-Smith. What I'd really like to do is steal your sign-off..."I'M OUT".
theKGB65 9 months ago
Wow that round gets there quick, it's a whole new world chucking rifle lead out of a pistol. 2K fps or better, that'd be brutal on soft tissue!
1AbominAble1 9 months ago
Hey Brother, I see that you left the Oakley's at home this time, are you trying to tell me that your hearing is mire important than looking cool ;D my damn X Metal's get me every time, that's why I have a can of foam plugs stuck in the door panel of the truck. When packing I always forget that the glasses will end up killing my ears later, without the foam I'd be wrecked. Thanks for the in depth look at the 5.7, vie been curious about them for a long time, thought that they looked cheap until I
1AbominAble1 9 months ago
@1AbominAble1 It's funny you mentioned that because when I was getting geared up for this video I thought about your comment on the Oakleys from my SCAR 17s video. Yea, the Five-Seven has a pretty good muzzle report so I made sure I didn't make the same mistake with those glasses. Foam plugs are really good, I use them too, but when I'm on camera I've got to be able to hear myself mumbling and stuttering.
theKGB65 9 months ago
Want to see additional footage highlighting those shades. Where can I get a set? Good shooting by the way..........;)
bronk5150 9 months ago
@bronk5150 They are cheap UVEX mirror safety glasses, best protection when shooting steel. Since you like them so much I'll give you mine.
theKGB65 9 months ago
great shootin and loved the slow motion part... I just have to say DANG, thats a flat shooter! I may have prematurely dismissed the 5.7x28 haha may have to dig out some load data and reevaluate my standing with that little cartridge. Thanks for another fun vid KGB65
skylined12 9 months ago
@skylined12 You bet! Thanks for watching and for the nice comments.
theKGB65 9 months ago
The slow motion part is awesome.
The FiveSeven is almost made of plastic completely. lol What's not plastic? Only the barrel, inner part of the slide and the springs. :D
Does it affect service length in any way? I could imagine that those types of constructions are weaker than full steel pistols.
Great video.
bfgguns 9 months ago
@bfgguns I don't know about these FN pistols but some of the other polymer guns have proven to be almost indestructible, supposedly even after more than a million rounds. I can't afford to shoot a pistol to death so it doesn't matter to me, I just like the shape, feel, and light weight of these. Same with rifles, love the lightweight polymer.
theKGB65 9 months ago
Awesome video.
222lagoon 9 months ago
@222lagoon Thanks for saying so.
theKGB65 9 months ago
Neat. I am really loving the heavy pistols again after shooting my Colt 1911 70 :)
ArtisanTony 9 months ago
@ArtisanTony Colt 70 - Series, that's a nice gun you have, there. Don't see too many of them for sale these days.
theKGB65 9 months ago
@theKGB65 If your ever on Ten I want you to shoot it and see what you think!
ArtisanTony 9 months ago
Good job,The slow motion was good. Thanks for your time Good info on your videos.
mcrafton89 9 months ago
@mcrafton89 Thank you for watching this.
theKGB65 9 months ago
Trick to catching bullet trace is focus the camera lens 8-12 yards in front of the target. Aim it high and over the target right shoulder to see it.. Trace is clearly seen in the earlier hours when there is a high humidity. Are those goggles from HALO?;)
bronk5150 9 months ago
@bronk5150 No, they're the next generation of Blue-Blocker and chicks really dig 'em. Actually, these are the only kind that don't push out on my hearing protection.
theKGB65 9 months ago