SSJ4 shouldn't even exist. SSJ3 is described to be total 100% utilization of ki, stamina, strength, pretty much everything, the last wall crushed.SSJ4 makes no sense, since there is no more "wall" to surpass.
This is what would happen (realistically) but if they actually would have fought in the anime it would have been very even lasted several episodes and would have ended in a tie
lol polar wtf are you stupid goku was a kid again his tail was coming out they just rushed it vegeta never worked hard for his ssj4 he was just a puss
@aurelio10245 Meh. You don't need to work hard to get SSJ4. You just need to have control of yourself while in your Oozaru form, and have enough power behind it. Vegeta had that thanks to all of the energy that Bebi collected.
@fallll1 no he is not vegeta ssj2 post death equals ssj2 goku he kept his majin power up and vegeta could fight with omega for a while. but without dragon fist and his friends ki, goku couldnt do anything to syn (not omega)
Not really what i suspected as an ending.i admit im sayin this because vegeta is my fav character but you made goku to strong.....Vegeta still trains as much now a days...mabye if gt wasnt all about goku u would have seen him.Im not sayin vegeta would win but he match would take much longer and goku wouldnt beat him that easily.
but goku wouldn't had won if vegeta did his final shine attack against his kamehameha times 10 because final shine is his ultmate attack goku ultimate attack is super dragon fist plus kamehameha times 10
thank you for saying the truth vegeta hasn't been training like he use to if he did he would had been able to beat super 17 whensuper 17 was weak at first because he didn't absorb any power yet
@Mega1hacker doesnt matter legit ssj4 goku>nouva sheron>blutz wave ssj4 vegeta and beside vegeta stopped training as much after the buu saga because he knew no matter how hard he trained goku would always be a step ahead and goku has been training with uub non stop after the end of dbz you could possibly imagine the differences between those two
@PolarBearSlippers majuub is stronger than ssj2 vegeta,ssj vegeta,normal vegeta but not ssj4 vegeta and he used bluz wave -_- so no my logic is not flawed
@clickbeatzzzz Majuub did fuck all to super 17 while vegeta held his own as a ssj by the looks of it and vegeta was the first to ascend beyond ssj so ur wrong if he trains hard he will be stronger
@clickbeatzzzz even though at the end of z he says one day ill beat u yeah vegeta never stopped training dnt make shit up do u know what vegeta knew do u know how he thinks more bullshit not that much dffrence there equal as ssj4 but vegeta was able to figh omega for a while while goku with dragonfist and his friends ki did fuk all to syn shenron
I think that this fight would end up being like the one during the buu saga. Although this time goku wouldn't have anything to hold back so it'll be even. Dotn crucify me now I'm just saying
Now how is Vegeta's way suddenly CHEATING ? The first time he was rewarded for his training and given a REAL boost,everybody starts bitching,we didn't hear that about Goku
Vegeta could have had his tail pulled out too,but I guess then he cheated again ?!?!
So you should better STFU,you hypocritical retards
@PakShuBro Nobody complained when Dende healed Vegeta for a ridiculously large, immediate power boost.
Nobody complained when Vegeta went Super Saiyan, when he had no real loss, only a desire (which CONTRADICTS WHAT GOKU SAID IN THE TIME CHAMBER)
Finally, nobody complained when Vegeta got another cheap boost from Majin Power
You're just a whiny Vegeta fan, and you look even more stupid by complaining about the crap that is GT, when it wasn't written by Toriyama. Just shut up and leave
@2much4ujo yes finally i hate it wen pwople say he cheated he was no diffrent then goku old kai pulled out gokus tail and goku transformed himself theya chived ssj4 the same way pretty much
Vegeta is a noob with this form. He cheated and therefore does not have the full capacity of SSJ4. Plus Goku has been naturally more talented. So Goku would win.
@KidGokuDB2 Ok, then in what case are you even answering my question by that useless and meaningless comment? Holy crap Dude!, you're so pro at reading to the point you can't make an on-topic comment without messing it up and making the whole argument pointless, who said you were trying to be rude first of all? Didn't you already understand the point of watching a "non-canon" anime? It's pretty simple, you just watch it and nothing gets saved by your brain cells, It's called a filler.
@KidGokuDB2 Why are you even talking about powerlvls you moron? With enough fighting style, even Goku got owned by Kid Buu as a SSJ3, so don't make me laugh, Goku SSJ3 wasn't any better to Vegeta SSJ2 vs Kid Buu. Mystic GOhan already exceeded Goku's powers, we all know it, and yet in GT he looks like shit, being non-canon means IT'S NOT OFFICIAL, so it's completely unrelated to DBZ, I don't even know why it's called Dragon's Balls GT. It's a shame to the whole anime, a sequel with tarded fanboys
@xMightytheArmadillox What's GT's author? Toei. Who cares about the Author's thoughts, i na logical way, GT wasn't canon, and isn't. No Manga= Canon, basically filler. A whole filler sequel to DBZ, how pathetic.
@xMightytheArmadillox I know that's what I meant, but GT's still not canon in a logical way. It's a failure to DBZ, The author might have accepted this "epic" sequel, ITS still NON canon, NO MANGAS = NO OFFICIAL SEQUEL. Its obvious isn't it? Where do you think animes come from? Even Naruto's full of fillers, go read the manga it's MUCH better before you watch the anime.
dum one its supposed to be a tie they got equal damged from omega shenron and bascially vegeta super sayian 4 got more hit on omega than goku super sayian 4 so dont act stupid btw final shine is a finsher 10x kamehame is just a super attack final shine attack obvisoly was supposed to win
@themightyozaru listen buddy i was talking for everyone not just you and i havent seen them lowering their ki when they fused they just did it there was NghhmMMHMM ARgHHHggmm or anything its just a proof that the creators of dbz has been whoring goku too much and vegeta has gotten no attention and if you ask me then id love to give attention to someone who never gets it you probarly live in australia or something.
@DbzInfiniteMaster WTF Australia i live in america bro where did you get that its true that vegeta is shit on throughout the series and it pisses me off to but these are logical fights not what if he wasnt shit on and he was equal to goku fights here is how i would have ended dbz while goku was training over the 10 years vegeta was also training but several times harder than goku and during the world martial arts tournament vegeta and goku duke it out as ssj3s as equals the end
@moonchild2006 sigh vegeta didnt cheat he used blutz waves everything up to that point was all vegeta you need a tail to go ssj4 and vegeta didnt have one so he needed blutz waves even goku would need to to do that if he didnt have a tail
@moonchild2006 well she did but only with blutz waves vegeta did it himself after the bluyz waves th blutz waves dont give you the power to go ssj4 you have to become fully conscious and go ssj in ape form and convert to ssj4
@moonchild2006 well you dont have to you just have to have a tail and reach ssj in ape form and convert to ssj4 thats how it works and vegeta can go ssj3 he just doesnt know how not to mention he probably wouldnt even if he knew how ssj3 is a hindrance because it drains power
@TheMightyOzaru Goku figured out how to get SSJ3, but he can't hold it long because his power drains quickly, when he was back to a child, his body couldn't handle SSJ3 nor could he handle the SSJ4 fusion as it didn't last very long either. I heard they tried to see how Vegeta would look as SSJ3, but they said it won't work out. I'd say his Majin form was close enough for SSJ3 power, just Saiyan, get it? LOL
@moonchild2006 umm dude the fusion didnt last for very long because it was a ridiculously powerful fusion also he could go ssj hell majin vegeta could have gone ssj3 if he knew how ssj3 is just pulling out all your saiyan power vegeta just doesnt know this plus he is smart he wouldnt even if he knew how its probably the most useless form of ssj because when it was introduced everything had overpowered it plus it drains energy
@TheMightyOzaru Vegeta is my favorite character in DBZ along with Piccolo. Vegeta don't need SSJ3 anyway, we seen what happened to Goku and that didn't work well. I like the SSJ4 fusion too, but mostly Goku was playing around as you could tell, by shooting out confetti?! LOL Vegeta's pride was involved too like always. The best fusions I like are Gogeta and Gotenks. SSJ3 is powerful, but takes alot of energy as time go by. SSJ4 is a different story here.
@samalfaro87 no thts because goku leaves and goes somewhere else wtf r u talking about u keep taking random stuff goku said and tryna come up with u wierd reason thts not true idiot
Now we have dimwits who think Vegeta is as strong or stronger than Goku. Goku was always stronger since the Saiyan Saga was done with. Except for a few moments (Vegeta vs Cell, Majin Vegeta vs Goku, and Bebi Vegeta vs Goku)
@Vegito1089 no but its just vegeta ss4 wtf he got stronger n turned ss4 u dnt call it ss4 bluts waves.....and anyways vegeta trains way harder than goku ,goku's just naturally gets stronger easier wtf
@sammy2629 goku had all his special training cuz hes good but vegeta passes him or equal at the end why u think they fuse. goku gets scared when vegeta told him he was gunna be ss4
@samalfaro87 oooo db hoshi lol retard thats not going to be a show that guys lieing thats an arcade game thats coming out in japan dnt believe tht.thts y in the beginning of the trailer the kid was playing in an arcade and why would they just redo dragonballz and all there fights and everthing but just add a kid
oh come on, when there in the same form vegeta is always stronger then goku. as a super saiyan piccolo said vegeta's probaly stronger, and in the show when they say someone might be stronger they mean YA, hes stronger. as a super saiyan 2, seing as vegeta seems to of kept all of his majin powers minus the M, vegeta was stronger. considering the fact that vegeta's still training in 500+ gravity and goku's just training normally, vegeta always has the upper hand when ther in the same form.
@jaido34 lol when vageta was a majin goku was fighting him only in ss2 but he later revealed that he could go ss3 if he wanted to he wuda bum raped vageta that day.
watch the episode when they be fighting kid buu itl explain all
And also, Goku was fatigued and weaken when Ssj4 Vegeta appeared. Also you dont have to be even to fuse, your ki has to be even with your partner. Guess what, you can lower your Ki to match your partner and boom, you can fuse.
@Vegito1089 He wasn't that much weakened, compared to a regular Dbz/gt fight. Goku had just received eneergy from the cast and owned Syn shenron. There is no indication or proof that Vegeta was weaker. Especially since he used the blutz waves
@DbzInfiniteMaster pff please vegeta is not only my fav dbz charcter but also my fav fictional character and i know that this fight would end in the vegito1089 depicted its true vegeta was equal to a weakened ssj4 goku and goku has been training hard while vegeta was training just to make sure he didnt get weaker over the years
@DbzInfiniteMaster in GT Goku was FAR stronger than Vegeta and Im not a fanboy I like them both plus Bulma built him the machine because he CLEARY wasnt stronge enough. If you dont lke it make your own video.
@PolarBearSlippers If you watched the show bulma pointed out Vegeta couldnt pull of the transformation himself since he wasnt strong enough and didnt have a tail like goku
@TeamTripleStar no shit of course i watched the show they were thinking about vegeta question if he wasnt strong eough why he did not transform but then bebi was in his body thats why he had the power already he just had no tail like kakarot and how does bulma know how strong u need to be to become ssj4
@PolarBearSlippers KEEP IN MIND that if Vegeta were even close to Gokus power he woulda done it on his own instead of being a lazy ass like in GT and using technology
@PolarBearSlippers BITCH PLEASE! :) his power INCREASED WHEN HE HAD A TAIL PULLED OUT OF HIS ASS this fight is based on the fact that if Vegeta wasnt on the blutz wave increase and in some unfathomable way reached SSJ4 this is how shit woulda gone down.
@TeamTripleStar BITCH PLEASE :) no ones power increased when there tails were pulled out goku had is tail pulled out and bebi vegeta said he had not changed at all and he was nothing how is this fight based on the fact vegeta was not on blutz waves when at the start of the videos it say SSJ4 Vegeta Blutz Waves vs SSJ4 Goku
@PolarBearSlippers BITCH PLEASE :) stop copying AND yes Goku even STATED that he should have been stronger thanks to his tail there was even an instance in Dragon Ball where he became stronger when it grew back during his fight with Giran. Your nothing but a lousy butt hurt dooche that probobly dosent even have a girlfriend.
@TeamTripleStar BITCH PLEASE :) Thats Dragon Ball And This Is GT Which Contradicts Everything Goku Stated He Should of Been Bebi Vegeta Stated he Wasnt Stronger Dnt Forget Thats And Fuck Up U Sall Balls
@TeamTripleStar HELLO he still said it in GT! His power increased you could look up any power level vid based on GT as proof. Btw learn how to spell dip shit Sall isnt a word. Also u suck at proving ur point
@TeamTripleStar so i should look up fan made power level vids as non canon proof awsome idea bro i was tired when i write sall also i proved his power did not increase when his tail was pulled out bebi vegeta said he has not changed at all im done with this anyway fuck this bullshit
@TeamTripleStar also u dnt make sense so if he had more power he would automatically grow a tail and do it on his own that makes no fucking sense what so fucking ever if u belive this u should be shot in the fucking face for being so fucking stupid
@PolarBearSlippers And your parents should have used a condom to prevent your conception since your having a bitch fit over someone disagreeing with you. Your probobly some 10 year old kid with a foul mouth go back to mommy little one. Btw did I mention ur being a huge bitch right now. Cheers Wanker:)! Ta Ta Now
@Vegito1089 well i have noticed something vegeta was equal to a weakened overpowered ssj4 goku powered by majuub, ssj(2 maybe) trunks, ssj(2maybe) goten, and ssj(2 maybe) gohan not to mentioned they powered up his base form which drastically powered up his ssj4 form and vegeta had been training while goku was looking for the dragon balls in space, and while goku was fighting the shadow dragons minded i still think goku is still stronger but vegeta would give him a better fight than you think
@Vegito1089 well i have noticed something vegeta was equal to a weakened overpowered ssj4 goku powered by majuub, ssj(2 maybe) trunks, ssj(2maybe) goten, and ssj(2 maybe) gohan not to mentioned they powered up his base form which drastically powered up his ssj4 form and vegeta had been training while goku was looking for the dragon balls in space, and while goku was fighting the shadow dragons minded i still think goku is still stronger but vegeta would give him a better fight than you think
i hate when people call him "SSJ4 Vegeta Blutz Wave"
like the Blutz Wave actually made him turn SSJ4. if anything all it did was give him his tail back. he then turned into a Golden Oozaru and (this is very important) because he could CONTROL IT ON HIS OWN, he became a SSJ4. how bout we call SSJ4 "Old Kai grew his tail back with a pair of plyers, and Pan made him control the Golden Oozaru so that he can become a SSJ4" Goku.
@Chaldean4life91 no dude thats blutz wave made him turn into a ssj4 it didnt give him his tail back because 1. when he turned back 2 normal he didnt have it and 2. if the reason he turned into a great ape was because he got his tail back how did he tranform when the moon wasnt there? the blutz wave made him turn into a ssj4 goku is stronger than vegeta cause he admited it in the buu saga goku transformed into a ssj4 by himself vegeta used a dumbass machine thats proves goku is stronger!!
a lot of things wrong with your post. first off how did Goku turn into a Golden Oozaru without the moon. he looked at earth. so thats one thing to look at. and also the whole point of turning into a SSJ4 is by controlling the Golden Oozaru. no matter how you grow your tail its mainly if you can control it. Goku had his tail pulled by pliers which should also be considered "cheating." as for Vegeta not having it afterwards is beyond me. maybe they forgot to add it.
of course he is lol. no one said he wasnt. i just hate people who call SSJ4 Vegeta "SSJ4 Vegeta Blutz Wave."
Goku is the strongest character in DB/Z/GT (kick rocks Gohan fanboys), and nothing will change that. hes saved the earth more then all the Z fighters put together.
Goku has always been more powerful then Vegeta. hes been in SSJ4 form longer so he knows the ups and downs of it. just because theyre both SSJ4 doesnt mean theyre equal, because when it comes down to it, Goku base>Vegeta Base
@Chaldean4life91Nope. There is no indication that Vegeta was weaker. Vegeta and Goku were losing on equal terms to omega shenron. in fact, vegeta actually landed some hits on omega during the struggle. Omega attempted to kill Vegeta during the battle but he failed.
So yes, they are both equal. Your whole argument goes out the window once we bring in the blutz waves into the equation. Vegeta used the blutz waves to be on comparable power to goku.
hahaha whats your point? SSJ4 Vegeta hit Omega a few times. were as Goku actually killed him until he regenerated. he Dragon Fisted him to death. so how does my who argument go out the window? bringing in the Blutz Wave doesnt really do anything to this argument. and Vegeta has always been known to survive strong attacks. even against Kid Buu he survived, doesnt mean hes stronger then Goku.
@Chaldean4life91 You idiot. Dragonfist is a move that goes through anything in Z/GT. That was the only reason why he was able to catch him off guard. So yeah, that argument of yours doesnt work. And the blutz waves helped vegeta turn Ssj4 near instantly. Hell he managed to control it in only a few moments, while goku was unable to.
Its obvious the blutz waves powered Vegeta up to be able to put up a fight against omega. There was no statements/proof that gouk lowered his PL for fusion
the reason Vegeta could control it was because hes had experience in controlling it (beginning of Z). doesnt mean that Vegeta automatically equals Goku. and Dragon Fist isnt his strongest technique. thats why he hardly uses it. he kills his opponents with the Spirit Bomb or mostly KameHameHa wave. but to able to kill the strongest villain in DB/Z/GT with a move like Dragon Fist should prove something.
go watch Kid Buu's episode and listen to Vegeta. he says something very important
Pure. Bull. Shit. Vegeta could beat goku any day of the week. Hands down. He destroyed him when they first fought. He beat him in the buu saga. He'd beat him again in GT. I know the kind of saiyan vegeta and goku are. With everything built up, with vegeta's entire honor and pride at stake, failure is not an option. They would show this if GT didnt pussy everyone up so much
vegeta used blood sway goku went natral ssj4 so goku would be a little stronger than vegeta but over all they would be even in most things but not strangth
I don't know much, but since they fused their power levels had to be the same. And there was no implied "decreasing" of Goku's power level. THEREFORE Goku = Vegeta SSJ4.
@karbon35 Ill take it you didn't know much cause if you did youll realize that goku was stronger and lasts in SSJ4 much longer than vegeta ever did he fought 3 shadow dragons in SSJ4 for over 4-5 hours at least while vegeta only spent like one hour or 2 and then his SSJ4 form wore off. not only that but goku fought Nova Ice and Syn Shenron and handled himself ok. Vegeta fought Nova wehn Nova was playing and was overwhelmed. Goku SSJ4 and Nova fought evenly but Goku won before he had FPSSJ4.
gt base goku is stronger than ssj gt vegeta loool for all vegetas fanboys goku n vegeta r nt equal goku is a lot stronger than vegeta even in ssj4 ,ssj2,ssj lol use ur heads he was training with uub 4 a lot of years n the only time they were equal was when he was majin vegeta . ssj4 vegeta is nt a perfect ssj4 coz of the machine So y should he b equal to legit ssj4 goku?
actrullyt i would say the vegeta as more of a chance beat him than he EVER did cause his power lvl as ssj4 is close to queal with goku ssj 4 cause of baby power up he gave him
There really should have been an ultimate final duel vs ss4 carrot and ss4 vegetable atleast to make up for the crap dbgt series that made no sense . and it woulda been better than the fight when they first met on earth. and then broccoli could join them in ss5 and i would make an excellent salad.
Goku sounds like Napa.
WILLKent8 3 days ago
The real cheating on all this is going SSJ4 without blutz waves, isnt it Goku?
lavacapintoja 5 days ago
gaaaaaaayyyy
silicongamer 2 weeks ago
actually vegeta is stronger than goku in ss4
GokuIsMe300 3 weeks ago
buenos efectos
francapo87 3 weeks ago
I don't know why any of you even went to this video. By the time Vegeta even goes SS4 they're already friends
alexis3080 1 month ago
same here geo and it will be a blast that kills both of them
emeinemful 1 month ago
SSJ4 shouldn't even exist. SSJ3 is described to be total 100% utilization of ki, stamina, strength, pretty much everything, the last wall crushed.SSJ4 makes no sense, since there is no more "wall" to surpass.
heretowatchvideos100 1 month ago
This is what would happen (realistically) but if they actually would have fought in the anime it would have been very even lasted several episodes and would have ended in a tie
HORRoRFrEak4EvEr1 1 month ago
idk if goku would win but....VEGETA WOULD PUT WAY MORE OF A FIGHT!!!!!
MrAndypanda24 1 month ago
lol polar wtf are you stupid goku was a kid again his tail was coming out they just rushed it vegeta never worked hard for his ssj4 he was just a puss
aurelio10245 1 month ago
@aurelio10245 Meh. You don't need to work hard to get SSJ4. You just need to have control of yourself while in your Oozaru form, and have enough power behind it. Vegeta had that thanks to all of the energy that Bebi collected.
elcamp3 1 month ago
... seems legit
THEML09 1 month ago
goku is stronger than vegeta ssj2 and sssj4
vegeta cheated!!!!!!!!! he couldnt turn into ssj4 he
asked bulma to help him
goku was training to be stronger but vegeta was trainin to maintain his power level
fallll1 1 month ago
@fallll1 no he is not vegeta ssj2 post death equals ssj2 goku he kept his majin power up and vegeta could fight with omega for a while. but without dragon fist and his friends ki, goku couldnt do anything to syn (not omega)
PolarBearSlippers 1 month ago
Not really what i suspected as an ending.i admit im sayin this because vegeta is my fav character but you made goku to strong.....Vegeta still trains as much now a days...mabye if gt wasnt all about goku u would have seen him.Im not sayin vegeta would win but he match would take much longer and goku wouldnt beat him that easily.
MrAndypanda24 1 month ago
but goku wouldn't had won if vegeta did his final shine attack against his kamehameha times 10 because final shine is his ultmate attack goku ultimate attack is super dragon fist plus kamehameha times 10
maysen51 1 month ago
thank you for saying the truth vegeta hasn't been training like he use to if he did he would had been able to beat super 17 whensuper 17 was weak at first because he didn't absorb any power yet
maysen51 1 month ago
@maysen51 what do u exspect vegeta wasnt super saiyan 4 there
MrAndypanda24 1 month ago
if goku wouls have learned to fight using instant transmission earlier he could have easily beat cell
lizardrko 1 month ago
well it a tough one to say...
goku would easily out run vegeta with his instant transmission but vegeta is tough as nails
Mega1hacker 1 month ago
@Mega1hacker doesnt matter legit ssj4 goku>nouva sheron>blutz wave ssj4 vegeta and beside vegeta stopped training as much after the buu saga because he knew no matter how hard he trained goku would always be a step ahead and goku has been training with uub non stop after the end of dbz you could possibly imagine the differences between those two
clickbeatzzzz 1 month ago
@clickbeatzzzz if vegeta stoped training why is he > Majuub who is stronger then super vegito yeah ur logic is flawed
PolarBearSlippers 1 month ago
@PolarBearSlippers majuub is stronger than ssj2 vegeta,ssj vegeta,normal vegeta but not ssj4 vegeta and he used bluz wave -_- so no my logic is not flawed
clickbeatzzzz 1 month ago
@clickbeatzzzz i know u love vegeta so much but you have to accept the fact that goku will alwas be stronger no matter hoe hard he trains :/
clickbeatzzzz 1 month ago
@clickbeatzzzz Majuub did fuck all to super 17 while vegeta held his own as a ssj by the looks of it and vegeta was the first to ascend beyond ssj so ur wrong if he trains hard he will be stronger
PolarBearSlippers 1 month ago
@PolarBearSlippers :/ u still dont get it never mind
clickbeatzzzz 1 month ago
@clickbeatzzzz even though at the end of z he says one day ill beat u yeah vegeta never stopped training dnt make shit up do u know what vegeta knew do u know how he thinks more bullshit not that much dffrence there equal as ssj4 but vegeta was able to figh omega for a while while goku with dragonfist and his friends ki did fuk all to syn shenron
PolarBearSlippers 1 month ago
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clickbeatzzzz 1 month ago
obvious Vegeta fans in the comments are obvious
MakashuMadaki 1 month ago
I Think that it would be more evenly much
DEATHMETALGUITARIS99 1 month ago
Goku SSJ4 surpassed limits(powered up by others) > Goku SSJ4 surpassed limits,tired = Vegeta SSJ4 = Goku SSJ4
And yea,video should have definitely looked like the fight from Buu saga,this was boring and pathetic
PakShuBro 2 months ago
@PakShuBro
do better then
HyperVegitoDBZ 1 month ago
I think that this fight would end up being like the one during the buu saga. Although this time goku wouldn't have anything to hold back so it'll be even. Dotn crucify me now I'm just saying
geo0999 2 months ago 8
Now how is Vegeta's way suddenly CHEATING ? The first time he was rewarded for his training and given a REAL boost,everybody starts bitching,we didn't hear that about Goku
Vegeta could have had his tail pulled out too,but I guess then he cheated again ?!?!
So you should better STFU,you hypocritical retards
PakShuBro 2 months ago
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PakShuBro 2 months ago
Nobody complained when Goku got trained by King Kai to use Kaioken/Spirit bomb
Nobody complained when Goku got to train in gravity room first and gained unreal boosts
Nobody complained when Goku had more time in hyperbolic time chamber,and he had Gohan to train with
Nobody complained Goku was training in otherworld,where he had far better stamina and could train much more
Nobody complained Goku was given SSJ3 with no real reason
And FINALLY,NOBODY COMPLAINED WHEN HE GOT HIS TAIL PULLED OUT
PakShuBro 2 months ago
@PakShuBro 1) number 3 was vegeta's fault actually.
2) i complained about # 4 and everyone else did...
you're smoking some good shit aren't you?
AgentOrange502 2 months ago
@PakShuBro Nobody complained when Dende healed Vegeta for a ridiculously large, immediate power boost.
Nobody complained when Vegeta went Super Saiyan, when he had no real loss, only a desire (which CONTRADICTS WHAT GOKU SAID IN THE TIME CHAMBER)
Finally, nobody complained when Vegeta got another cheap boost from Majin Power
You're just a whiny Vegeta fan, and you look even more stupid by complaining about the crap that is GT, when it wasn't written by Toriyama. Just shut up and leave
MakashuMadaki 1 month ago
WOW....GOOD JOB...LOOKS REAL
Holyrollah 2 months ago
VEGETA DIDNT CHEAT GOD DAMN HE USED THE BLUTZ WAVE FOR A SUB FOR A TAIL SO DONT SUK VEGETAS DICK
sshadowsonic 2 months ago
vegeta just uses technology for him to turned into ssj4
25536lennix 2 months ago
vegeta ssj4 raios vluts Vegeta Noob
Pika121000 2 months ago
Vegeta didn't cheat to get ssj4 the blutz wave gave him his tail he transformed on himself to great ape and etc
2much4ujo 5 months ago 19
@2much4ujo yes finally i hate it wen pwople say he cheated he was no diffrent then goku old kai pulled out gokus tail and goku transformed himself theya chived ssj4 the same way pretty much
PolarBearSlippers 1 month ago
@2much4ujo lol nope it was cheating u dumbass
aurelio10245 1 month ago
@aurelio10245 and having a old man pull a tail out ur ass isnt
PolarBearSlippers 1 month ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@19anyy OH REALLY??? Everyone knows it is there What If battles there entertaining to watch
psnplyerhard26 5 months ago
dude u can tell its fake it doesnt even have the real voices
19anyy 5 months ago
dude u can tell its fake
19anyy 5 months ago
Vegeta is a noob with this form. He cheated and therefore does not have the full capacity of SSJ4. Plus Goku has been naturally more talented. So Goku would win.
TheSpritingMasters 5 months ago
@KidGokuDB2 Ok, then in what case are you even answering my question by that useless and meaningless comment? Holy crap Dude!, you're so pro at reading to the point you can't make an on-topic comment without messing it up and making the whole argument pointless, who said you were trying to be rude first of all? Didn't you already understand the point of watching a "non-canon" anime? It's pretty simple, you just watch it and nothing gets saved by your brain cells, It's called a filler.
xDantey 5 months ago
@KidGokuDB2 Why are you even talking about powerlvls you moron? With enough fighting style, even Goku got owned by Kid Buu as a SSJ3, so don't make me laugh, Goku SSJ3 wasn't any better to Vegeta SSJ2 vs Kid Buu. Mystic GOhan already exceeded Goku's powers, we all know it, and yet in GT he looks like shit, being non-canon means IT'S NOT OFFICIAL, so it's completely unrelated to DBZ, I don't even know why it's called Dragon's Balls GT. It's a shame to the whole anime, a sequel with tarded fanboys
xDantey 5 months ago
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Ohh no Vegeta got Zenkai what do you think will happen now? Vegeta wins lol then Goku, then Vegeta, then Goku etc...
ninjamasterbro 5 months ago
Ohh no Vegeta got Zenkai what do you think will happen now? Vegeta wins lol then Goku, then Vegeta, then Goku etc...
ninjamasterbro 5 months ago
Ohh no Vegeta got Zenkai what do you think will happen now? Vegeta wins lol then Goku, then Vegeta, then Goku etc...
ninjamasterbro 5 months ago
who knows this might be an even fight
KingDiddy7 5 months ago
Don't forget GT is non-canon, so it should have been SSJ3 Goku vs SSJ2 Vegeta but oh well.
xDantey 5 months ago
@xDantey where did the creator say gt is non canon
xMightytheArmadillox 5 months ago
@xMightytheArmadillox What's GT's author? Toei. Who cares about the Author's thoughts, i na logical way, GT wasn't canon, and isn't. No Manga= Canon, basically filler. A whole filler sequel to DBZ, how pathetic.
xDantey 5 months ago
@xDantey so basically u have no proof that it's not canon, and sometimes logical ways don't always go well
xMightytheArmadillox 5 months ago
@xDantey and i meant AT the guy who created DBZ
xMightytheArmadillox 5 months ago
@xMightytheArmadillox I know that's what I meant, but GT's still not canon in a logical way. It's a failure to DBZ, The author might have accepted this "epic" sequel, ITS still NON canon, NO MANGAS = NO OFFICIAL SEQUEL. Its obvious isn't it? Where do you think animes come from? Even Naruto's full of fillers, go read the manga it's MUCH better before you watch the anime.
xDantey 5 months ago
dum one its supposed to be a tie they got equal damged from omega shenron and bascially vegeta super sayian 4 got more hit on omega than goku super sayian 4 so dont act stupid btw final shine is a finsher 10x kamehame is just a super attack final shine attack obvisoly was supposed to win
alleonfashions 5 months ago
Kinda a misleading title...
Bobaloobi 5 months ago
@themightyozaru listen buddy i was talking for everyone not just you and i havent seen them lowering their ki when they fused they just did it there was NghhmMMHMM ARgHHHggmm or anything its just a proof that the creators of dbz has been whoring goku too much and vegeta has gotten no attention and if you ask me then id love to give attention to someone who never gets it you probarly live in australia or something.
DbzInfiniteMaster 5 months ago
@DbzInfiniteMaster WTF Australia i live in america bro where did you get that its true that vegeta is shit on throughout the series and it pisses me off to but these are logical fights not what if he wasnt shit on and he was equal to goku fights here is how i would have ended dbz while goku was training over the 10 years vegeta was also training but several times harder than goku and during the world martial arts tournament vegeta and goku duke it out as ssj3s as equals the end
TheMightyOzaru 5 months ago
Well, Vegeta DID cheated his way to SSJ4 thanks to Bulma.
moonchild2006 5 months ago
@moonchild2006 sigh vegeta didnt cheat he used blutz waves everything up to that point was all vegeta you need a tail to go ssj4 and vegeta didnt have one so he needed blutz waves even goku would need to to do that if he didnt have a tail
TheMightyOzaru 5 months ago
@TheMightyOzaru Hmm, I miss that one. But I thought Bulma helped him reach SSJ4.
moonchild2006 5 months ago
@moonchild2006 well she did but only with blutz waves vegeta did it himself after the bluyz waves th blutz waves dont give you the power to go ssj4 you have to become fully conscious and go ssj in ape form and convert to ssj4
TheMightyOzaru 5 months ago
@TheMightyOzaru Sorry, I guess what I should have said is that he made his way without going through SSJ3.
moonchild2006 5 months ago
@moonchild2006 well you dont have to you just have to have a tail and reach ssj in ape form and convert to ssj4 thats how it works and vegeta can go ssj3 he just doesnt know how not to mention he probably wouldnt even if he knew how ssj3 is a hindrance because it drains power
TheMightyOzaru 5 months ago
@TheMightyOzaru Goku figured out how to get SSJ3, but he can't hold it long because his power drains quickly, when he was back to a child, his body couldn't handle SSJ3 nor could he handle the SSJ4 fusion as it didn't last very long either. I heard they tried to see how Vegeta would look as SSJ3, but they said it won't work out. I'd say his Majin form was close enough for SSJ3 power, just Saiyan, get it? LOL
moonchild2006 5 months ago
@moonchild2006 umm dude the fusion didnt last for very long because it was a ridiculously powerful fusion also he could go ssj hell majin vegeta could have gone ssj3 if he knew how ssj3 is just pulling out all your saiyan power vegeta just doesnt know this plus he is smart he wouldnt even if he knew how its probably the most useless form of ssj because when it was introduced everything had overpowered it plus it drains energy
TheMightyOzaru 5 months ago
@TheMightyOzaru Vegeta is my favorite character in DBZ along with Piccolo. Vegeta don't need SSJ3 anyway, we seen what happened to Goku and that didn't work well. I like the SSJ4 fusion too, but mostly Goku was playing around as you could tell, by shooting out confetti?! LOL Vegeta's pride was involved too like always. The best fusions I like are Gogeta and Gotenks. SSJ3 is powerful, but takes alot of energy as time go by. SSJ4 is a different story here.
moonchild2006 5 months ago
@moonchild2006 this is true and yes if vegeta knew how to go ssj3 he wouldnt use it because it drains energy
TheMightyOzaru 5 months ago
It seems nobody in the comment section has learned proper spelling.
kingofbrawl3000 5 months ago
go watch the full episodes when he transforms
samalfaro87 5 months ago
What music is at 1:10?
MsOrcrist 6 months ago
vegeta ss4 is stronger then goku ss4. vegeta says hes asended meaning he finally pass goku as supreme saiyan
samalfaro87 6 months ago
@samalfaro87 not true
sammy2629 5 months ago
@sammy2629 yea dude thats why goku tells vegeta earth is in ur hands now
samalfaro87 5 months ago
@samalfaro87 no thts because goku leaves and goes somewhere else wtf r u talking about u keep taking random stuff goku said and tryna come up with u wierd reason thts not true idiot
sammy2629 5 months ago
Lol Vegeta HITS HARDER than Goku. Goku ENERGY BEAMS are stronger than Vegetas.
plus majin vegeta bs goku...GOKU WAS HOLDING BACK...
RhymaFlowTV 6 months ago
Now we have dimwits who think Vegeta is as strong or stronger than Goku. Goku was always stronger since the Saiyan Saga was done with. Except for a few moments (Vegeta vs Cell, Majin Vegeta vs Goku, and Bebi Vegeta vs Goku)
DrewTH1 6 months ago
@DrewTH1 and Vegeta vs androids 19 & 20
CrimsonMystery 6 months ago
goku could kill vegeta even if there both ss4 whe vegeta does a blast at goku goku would use kamhkameha time ten vegetas don.
SuperKamara123 6 months ago
SSJ4 goku would win because my xp at ssj4
Dbzfan115x 6 months ago
wtf dumbass its not ssj4 vegeta blutz wave u idiot
sdannunzio 6 months ago
@sdannunzio So Vegeta turned Ssj4 by himself?
Vegito1089 6 months ago 8
@Vegito1089 no but its just vegeta ss4 wtf he got stronger n turned ss4 u dnt call it ss4 bluts waves.....and anyways vegeta trains way harder than goku ,goku's just naturally gets stronger easier wtf
sammy2629 5 months ago
@sammy2629 goku had all his special training cuz hes good but vegeta passes him or equal at the end why u think they fuse. goku gets scared when vegeta told him he was gunna be ss4
samalfaro87 5 months ago
@samalfaro87 wtf r u talking about......and if it say tht u comment got 1 like tht was me by accident
sammy2629 5 months ago
@sammy2629 dude just wait til dragon ball hoshi comes out just drop it
samalfaro87 5 months ago
@samalfaro87 wats tht and btw i like vegeta way better than goku but u were lieing
sammy2629 5 months ago
@samalfaro87 oooo db hoshi lol retard thats not going to be a show that guys lieing thats an arcade game thats coming out in japan dnt believe tht.thts y in the beginning of the trailer the kid was playing in an arcade and why would they just redo dragonballz and all there fights and everthing but just add a kid
sammy2629 5 months ago
@Vegito1089 LOL!
xDantey 5 months ago
No way itd end like that
Aerchain 6 months ago
Everything weird
Aerchain 6 months ago
Goku sounds like sonic lol
hotwhire 6 months ago
@slapnuts170 Poor kid
TheVanGastel 6 months ago
oh come on, when there in the same form vegeta is always stronger then goku. as a super saiyan piccolo said vegeta's probaly stronger, and in the show when they say someone might be stronger they mean YA, hes stronger. as a super saiyan 2, seing as vegeta seems to of kept all of his majin powers minus the M, vegeta was stronger. considering the fact that vegeta's still training in 500+ gravity and goku's just training normally, vegeta always has the upper hand when ther in the same form.
jaido34 6 months ago
@jaido34 lol when vageta was a majin goku was fighting him only in ss2 but he later revealed that he could go ss3 if he wanted to he wuda bum raped vageta that day.
watch the episode when they be fighting kid buu itl explain all
atif07an08 6 months ago
@slapnuts170 lol you bang a dead woman lol she is 40 years dead kiddo. Have fun to bang her... poor kid.
TheVanGastel 6 months ago
@slapnuts170 You mad kid?
TheVanGastel 6 months ago
@vegito1089 thing is they are even and your a goku fanboy + it would make alot of viewers happy "smartass"
DbzInfiniteMaster 6 months ago
@DbzInfiniteMaster I dont even like Goku that much.
And also, Goku was fatigued and weaken when Ssj4 Vegeta appeared. Also you dont have to be even to fuse, your ki has to be even with your partner. Guess what, you can lower your Ki to match your partner and boom, you can fuse.
Vegito1089 6 months ago
@Vegito1089 He wasn't that much weakened, compared to a regular Dbz/gt fight. Goku had just received eneergy from the cast and owned Syn shenron. There is no indication or proof that Vegeta was weaker. Especially since he used the blutz waves
Janemba80 6 months ago
@DbzInfiniteMaster pff please vegeta is not only my fav dbz charcter but also my fav fictional character and i know that this fight would end in the vegito1089 depicted its true vegeta was equal to a weakened ssj4 goku and goku has been training hard while vegeta was training just to make sure he didnt get weaker over the years
TheMightyOzaru 5 months ago
@DbzInfiniteMaster in GT Goku was FAR stronger than Vegeta and Im not a fanboy I like them both plus Bulma built him the machine because he CLEARY wasnt stronge enough. If you dont lke it make your own video.
TeamTripleStar 5 months ago in playlist More videos from Vegito1089
@TeamTripleStar prove it the machine just gave him a tail
PolarBearSlippers 1 month ago
@PolarBearSlippers If you watched the show bulma pointed out Vegeta couldnt pull of the transformation himself since he wasnt strong enough and didnt have a tail like goku
TeamTripleStar 1 month ago
@TeamTripleStar no shit of course i watched the show they were thinking about vegeta question if he wasnt strong eough why he did not transform but then bebi was in his body thats why he had the power already he just had no tail like kakarot and how does bulma know how strong u need to be to become ssj4
PolarBearSlippers 1 month ago
@PolarBearSlippers KEEP IN MIND that if Vegeta were even close to Gokus power he woulda done it on his own instead of being a lazy ass like in GT and using technology
TeamTripleStar 1 month ago
@TeamTripleStar KEEP IN MIND IF Goku Had Enough Power he woulda done it own his own instead of have a old kai pull hios tail out his ass
PolarBearSlippers 1 month ago
@PolarBearSlippers BITCH PLEASE! :) his power INCREASED WHEN HE HAD A TAIL PULLED OUT OF HIS ASS this fight is based on the fact that if Vegeta wasnt on the blutz wave increase and in some unfathomable way reached SSJ4 this is how shit woulda gone down.
TeamTripleStar 1 month ago
@TeamTripleStar BITCH PLEASE :) no ones power increased when there tails were pulled out goku had is tail pulled out and bebi vegeta said he had not changed at all and he was nothing how is this fight based on the fact vegeta was not on blutz waves when at the start of the videos it say SSJ4 Vegeta Blutz Waves vs SSJ4 Goku
PolarBearSlippers 1 month ago
@PolarBearSlippers BITCH PLEASE :) stop copying AND yes Goku even STATED that he should have been stronger thanks to his tail there was even an instance in Dragon Ball where he became stronger when it grew back during his fight with Giran. Your nothing but a lousy butt hurt dooche that probobly dosent even have a girlfriend.
TeamTripleStar 1 month ago
@TeamTripleStar BITCH PLEASE :) Thats Dragon Ball And This Is GT Which Contradicts Everything Goku Stated He Should of Been Bebi Vegeta Stated he Wasnt Stronger Dnt Forget Thats And Fuck Up U Sall Balls
PolarBearSlippers 1 month ago
@TeamTripleStar HELLO he still said it in GT! His power increased you could look up any power level vid based on GT as proof. Btw learn how to spell dip shit Sall isnt a word. Also u suck at proving ur point
TeamTripleStar 1 month ago
@TeamTripleStar so i should look up fan made power level vids as non canon proof awsome idea bro i was tired when i write sall also i proved his power did not increase when his tail was pulled out bebi vegeta said he has not changed at all im done with this anyway fuck this bullshit
PolarBearSlippers 1 month ago
@PolarBearSlippers Okay Bye and thanks for ending your bullshit :)
TeamTripleStar 1 month ago
@TeamTripleStar your welcome
PolarBearSlippers 1 month ago
@TeamTripleStar also u dnt make sense so if he had more power he would automatically grow a tail and do it on his own that makes no fucking sense what so fucking ever if u belive this u should be shot in the fucking face for being so fucking stupid
PolarBearSlippers 1 month ago
@PolarBearSlippers And your parents should have used a condom to prevent your conception since your having a bitch fit over someone disagreeing with you. Your probobly some 10 year old kid with a foul mouth go back to mommy little one. Btw did I mention ur being a huge bitch right now. Cheers Wanker:)! Ta Ta Now
TeamTripleStar 1 month ago
if you were smart you would make this a draw -.-
DbzInfiniteMaster 6 months ago
@DbzInfiniteMaster I am smart. Why would I make it a draw if they are not even.
Vegito1089 6 months ago
@Vegito1089 whats the theme at 1:10 its awesome
keithbu 6 months ago
@Vegito1089 well i have noticed something vegeta was equal to a weakened overpowered ssj4 goku powered by majuub, ssj(2 maybe) trunks, ssj(2maybe) goten, and ssj(2 maybe) gohan not to mentioned they powered up his base form which drastically powered up his ssj4 form and vegeta had been training while goku was looking for the dragon balls in space, and while goku was fighting the shadow dragons minded i still think goku is still stronger but vegeta would give him a better fight than you think
TheMightyOzaru 5 months ago
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@Vegito1089 well i have noticed something vegeta was equal to a weakened overpowered ssj4 goku powered by majuub, ssj(2 maybe) trunks, ssj(2maybe) goten, and ssj(2 maybe) gohan not to mentioned they powered up his base form which drastically powered up his ssj4 form and vegeta had been training while goku was looking for the dragon balls in space, and while goku was fighting the shadow dragons minded i still think goku is still stronger but vegeta would give him a better fight than you think
TheMightyOzaru 5 months ago
Vegeta has better technique. I hate how Goku is always the winner. They make him that because he is the "hero" but still...
kingofthering24 6 months ago
i hate when people call him "SSJ4 Vegeta Blutz Wave"
like the Blutz Wave actually made him turn SSJ4. if anything all it did was give him his tail back. he then turned into a Golden Oozaru and (this is very important) because he could CONTROL IT ON HIS OWN, he became a SSJ4. how bout we call SSJ4 "Old Kai grew his tail back with a pair of plyers, and Pan made him control the Golden Oozaru so that he can become a SSJ4" Goku.
Chaldean4life91 6 months ago
@Chaldean4life91 no dude thats blutz wave made him turn into a ssj4 it didnt give him his tail back because 1. when he turned back 2 normal he didnt have it and 2. if the reason he turned into a great ape was because he got his tail back how did he tranform when the moon wasnt there? the blutz wave made him turn into a ssj4 goku is stronger than vegeta cause he admited it in the buu saga goku transformed into a ssj4 by himself vegeta used a dumbass machine thats proves goku is stronger!!
sdannunzio 6 months ago
@sdannunzio
a lot of things wrong with your post. first off how did Goku turn into a Golden Oozaru without the moon. he looked at earth. so thats one thing to look at. and also the whole point of turning into a SSJ4 is by controlling the Golden Oozaru. no matter how you grow your tail its mainly if you can control it. Goku had his tail pulled by pliers which should also be considered "cheating." as for Vegeta not having it afterwards is beyond me. maybe they forgot to add it.
Chaldean4life91 6 months ago
@Chaldean4life91 goku is still strnger than vegeta like i said before he even admits it
sdannunzio 6 months ago
@sdannunzio
of course he is lol. no one said he wasnt. i just hate people who call SSJ4 Vegeta "SSJ4 Vegeta Blutz Wave."
Goku is the strongest character in DB/Z/GT (kick rocks Gohan fanboys), and nothing will change that. hes saved the earth more then all the Z fighters put together.
Chaldean4life91 6 months ago
@Chaldean4life91 No. Ssj4 goku=Ssj4 Vegeta
Janemba80 6 months ago
@Janemba80
wrong!
Goku has always been more powerful then Vegeta. hes been in SSJ4 form longer so he knows the ups and downs of it. just because theyre both SSJ4 doesnt mean theyre equal, because when it comes down to it, Goku base>Vegeta Base
Goku SSJ>Vegeta SSJ
Goku SSJ4>Vegeta SSJ4
so on and so forth.
Chaldean4life91 6 months ago
@Chaldean4life91Nope. There is no indication that Vegeta was weaker. Vegeta and Goku were losing on equal terms to omega shenron. in fact, vegeta actually landed some hits on omega during the struggle. Omega attempted to kill Vegeta during the battle but he failed.
So yes, they are both equal. Your whole argument goes out the window once we bring in the blutz waves into the equation. Vegeta used the blutz waves to be on comparable power to goku.
Janemba80 6 months ago
@Janemba80
hahaha whats your point? SSJ4 Vegeta hit Omega a few times. were as Goku actually killed him until he regenerated. he Dragon Fisted him to death. so how does my who argument go out the window? bringing in the Blutz Wave doesnt really do anything to this argument. and Vegeta has always been known to survive strong attacks. even against Kid Buu he survived, doesnt mean hes stronger then Goku.
Chaldean4life91 6 months ago
@Chaldean4life91 You idiot. Dragonfist is a move that goes through anything in Z/GT. That was the only reason why he was able to catch him off guard. So yeah, that argument of yours doesnt work. And the blutz waves helped vegeta turn Ssj4 near instantly. Hell he managed to control it in only a few moments, while goku was unable to.
Its obvious the blutz waves powered Vegeta up to be able to put up a fight against omega. There was no statements/proof that gouk lowered his PL for fusion
Janemba80 6 months ago
@Janemba80
the reason Vegeta could control it was because hes had experience in controlling it (beginning of Z). doesnt mean that Vegeta automatically equals Goku. and Dragon Fist isnt his strongest technique. thats why he hardly uses it. he kills his opponents with the Spirit Bomb or mostly KameHameHa wave. but to able to kill the strongest villain in DB/Z/GT with a move like Dragon Fist should prove something.
go watch Kid Buu's episode and listen to Vegeta. he says something very important
Chaldean4life91 6 months ago
lmao
tavarescarter53 6 months ago
vegeta is cooler but goku is stronger >.>
InfinityXRaven 6 months ago
DANM YOU MAIN CHArACTERS
SSJBadrock16 7 months ago
i might of been ok with goku wining if it wouldnt of show vegeta get throw around like that vegeta and goku were even at super saiyan 4
manbearpig100100 7 months ago
Vegeta is a street fighter.
halolIlmao0 7 months ago
Pure. Bull. Shit. Vegeta could beat goku any day of the week. Hands down. He destroyed him when they first fought. He beat him in the buu saga. He'd beat him again in GT. I know the kind of saiyan vegeta and goku are. With everything built up, with vegeta's entire honor and pride at stake, failure is not an option. They would show this if GT didnt pussy everyone up so much
SacredMortal619 7 months ago
at 1:27 vegeta looked crazy
LilNekoBlade 7 months ago
which episode goku does that technique at 1:31
TheMassyl 8 months ago
OMG come on guys this was a awsome home made or what ever you call it it was the best iv seen IMO!!!! thumbs up if you think soo too :)
inuyashachris5 8 months ago
vegeta used blood sway goku went natral ssj4 so goku would be a little stronger than vegeta but over all they would be even in most things but not strangth
xNEWCREWx 8 months ago
Goku stronger....b4 fusion goku was weak and was still the same as newly transformed vegeta
MrJuwan2345 8 months ago
I don't know much, but since they fused their power levels had to be the same. And there was no implied "decreasing" of Goku's power level. THEREFORE Goku = Vegeta SSJ4.
karbon35 8 months ago
@karbon35 Ill take it you didn't know much cause if you did youll realize that goku was stronger and lasts in SSJ4 much longer than vegeta ever did he fought 3 shadow dragons in SSJ4 for over 4-5 hours at least while vegeta only spent like one hour or 2 and then his SSJ4 form wore off. not only that but goku fought Nova Ice and Syn Shenron and handled himself ok. Vegeta fought Nova wehn Nova was playing and was overwhelmed. Goku SSJ4 and Nova fought evenly but Goku won before he had FPSSJ4.
Wildcatbball18 7 months ago
@karbon35 Oh and not only that but when they readied theirselves to fuse they equalled out their power levels before the dance.
Wildcatbball18 7 months ago
Goku is way stronger than vegeta but Vegeta is smarter then Goku
MultiSuperVegeto 8 months ago
And besides vegeta shouldn't have cut his hair
Christinamatt3 8 months ago
They was playing super sayian 4 theme final bout what dicks
Christinamatt3 8 months ago
gt base goku is stronger than ssj gt vegeta loool for all vegetas fanboys goku n vegeta r nt equal goku is a lot stronger than vegeta even in ssj4 ,ssj2,ssj lol use ur heads he was training with uub 4 a lot of years n the only time they were equal was when he was majin vegeta . ssj4 vegeta is nt a perfect ssj4 coz of the machine So y should he b equal to legit ssj4 goku?
clickbeatzzzz 8 months ago
@clickbeatzzzz vegeta was nver eaqual to goku not even wen he was majin becuz goku could go ssj3 so therefore vegeta can go suck gokus dick
chaseironman07 8 months ago
lets just leave it at this go watch the seiries again since it is epic and stop saying who would win
ssjfalconman 8 months ago
1:41 epic kick
roachofdoom1234 8 months ago
dedo abajo porke perdio vegeta ¬¬
loquendogtasanandrea 8 months ago
jajajajajajaja cool
KAMZ8080 8 months ago
actrullyt i would say the vegeta as more of a chance beat him than he EVER did cause his power lvl as ssj4 is close to queal with goku ssj 4 cause of baby power up he gave him
laahah1 8 months ago
God I hate when you do their voices... Sounds so fuckin' bad.
johnny6187 9 months ago
There really should have been an ultimate final duel vs ss4 carrot and ss4 vegetable atleast to make up for the crap dbgt series that made no sense . and it woulda been better than the fight when they first met on earth. and then broccoli could join them in ss5 and i would make an excellent salad.
strapinhotpockets 9 months ago