Yun Yin Sen -- Liu He Ba Fa -- Standing Form

[chemanfu]

or like Helen Liang, dance and slim body

[chemanfu]

Yun is the Sole teacher of LHBF Alive. He did understand Water. the others can teach you form and fancy

[illiJomusic]

so much clear body originated movement.  Great expression and jins as well.. And replay

[ram11386]

This is pretty cool.

This is very close to what I am learning right now.

[observeUnow]

i live in Toronto. do you know where I can learn this form. it seems like a very effective way to develop chi. I do tai chi but i like this standing form.

[jkrong]

没有步法的手操

[GR8Chi]

I'm sorry, but your comment is not legible. It appears as little boxes...

[mixjourneyman]

This is nice. Where in China does this master live (assuming he is in China). I would love to attend one of his classes!

[GR8Chi]

Master Yun is in Shanghai. He has recently begun teaching in a mountain temple outside the city. If you wish further detail please contact me...El

[soaring1000dragons]

I and my friends plan to study liuhebafa in shanghai this summer. Will he teach then? How do we communicatte with him? Thanks.

[thesolitarybird2]

yes could please tell me too where to find Master Yun in Shanghai or how to contact him? I appreciate your reply, thanks a lot. ^^;

[narayanr]

Escellent, simply excellent!

[jahroots7]

Master Yun just celebrated his 75th year...do you think he is overly mindful of the shape of his body?...;)

[GR8Chi]

Well said. The man has the moves down. He's healthy, happy and doing what he loves -- hey? What more can anyone say about a life well lived?

[Ancientimmortal]

Though this is an internal art , it is the external training that determines the shape of your body

[narayanr]

I've been practicing Wing Chun for decades; and yet, it is still very difficult for me to learn these movements just by watching them in a clip. Can you please answer the message which I sent you yesterday? Look at it this way - I'm not making any "pear-shaped" comments!

[garngh]

I noticed that liuheba masters all seem to have a pear like body shape. This body shape may increase their stability on the body dynamics, but I am not sure that I would like to acquire such a body type.

Is this really true? Can you give a few masters that have slim type body shape.

[GR8Chi]

Bless you! I've seen some beautiful 'Buddha bellies' but I can't say all LHBF masters are pear shaped. It's what's going on inside that counts here, but I know excellent LHBF practioners who definitely are not pear shaped.

[garngh]

Give me one example: an relatively old and reasonably known liu he ba fa artist who are thin.

On the other hand, I can find many Chen Taiji players who are thins. Xiaowang Chen, qingzhou Chen, zenglei Chen etc. are all look thin and fit.

[GR8Chi]

You're kidding, right? I love this form. It works for me. I could care less what shape my body turns into if I ever get even vaguely close to Master Yun's proficiency. Since you DO care a lot about this, why don't you take your mouse and go fish Google for non pear-shaped LHBF masters. While you're having fun doing that, I'll watch Master Yun's dan tien and feet and flickering fingers and learn something. ; )

[GR8Chi]

I've been thinking about your concern. If you sunk your chest deeply rather than simply relaxing it, rounded your shoulders & developed a great dan tien, you'd probably be pear-shaped, too. Try relaxing your chest and shoulders so you won't create a hollowed chest and overly rounded back.

[garngh]

You missed the point. I am or becoming pear shaped, which I do not like. I would like to be lean guys from Chen Taiji. So now I am more focused on Chen Taiji. It seems to be working. More fajin and jumping may have helped. Of course, my internal strength is also improving.

[GR8Chi]

Ah, sorry I misunderstood. Glad you've found your form...

[Yakshinian]

I very much like this. One question: what is his right hand doing? It keeps fluttering and has the seperate pinky finger.

[GR8Chi]

Mstr. Yun's fluttering fingers are one of the best parts of this video. It's not a technique per se, it's just what happens when the chi is running thru him big-time. I love to watch it in this video, beautiful. The red leaves do the same thing.

[Yakshinian]

Does this mean that there is a chi blockage there? Also, would this happen during a fight? Hopefully the pinky would not be broken. No disrespect, I can see how useful the movements are.

[GR8Chi]

No, there's no chi blockage, it's just the way chi is flowing through him. It's 'water' boxing there is movement like this occasionally. No disrespect taken, but the form is an internal art -- fighting is not the primary motive for practice. : )

[garngh]

It seems an interesting and great way to train root and dantian rotation.

[GR8Chi]

Yes!

[narayanr]

Okay, so what about me? Was my last message too wordy, perhaps? Well, I meant every word of it. My only concern right now is if you think that I'm just another looney tune.

[narayanr]

Check him out! That's the man!

[BaguaBill]

GR8Chi, also your site seems to be blocked here in China.

[GR8Chi]

Sorry to hear that. I don't know if there is anything I can do, but will explore the situation. With the World's Fair coming up in 2010, maybe things will loosen up.

[BaguaBill]

Hi, I met this master today in People's Park. Very kind, gifted and incredibly strong for someone who is 74 years old.. I practice Bagua here in Shanghai and every once in a while go to People's park to play push hands with the Wu Taiji stylists. Master Yun YinSen was there and fed me a nice dose of humble pie... These guys are great.

I'm wujiqigongkid AT hotmail DOT com if you wish to corrospond.

[GR8Chi]

Humble Pie, eh? A staple of mine, I'm afraid. Yes, M. Yun is amazing. He's the epitome of LHBF even when he's eating lunch! ;)

[GR8Chi]

I tried to reply a few moments ago, but my browser went down. Sorry if my first try shows up here 2. See Master Yun's LHBF history on my site (see profile). LHBF is very ancient --pre-dates Song dynasty (960-1279). Believed to be originated by the legendary Taoist sage, Chen Po. Thanks for your interest...El

[GR8Chi]

M. Yun's Lineage: Chen Po>LiDongfeng>SongYuantong>(Ch­enGuangdi, YanGuoxin & ChenHelu)>WuYihui>(ZhangChangx­i, LiangQuizhon & LuGuiyao)> Yun Yinsen

[narayanr]

Hello there, fellow traveler of the "Pathless Path"(for this is where all form ultimately leads),

I am a Ving Tsun Kung Fu practitioner, but I have always been intrigued by the Neijia Quan. In other words, I've always been curious about the "Internal Boxing Systems", i.e., Xing-Yi, Bagua, Taiji.

So when I found out that Liu He Ba Fa is the Taoist Source of the latter mentioned styles of combat I was even more intrigued. Well, from here onward I'll be "all ears".

[GR8Chi]

Music to my ears! You may be interested in a short book, 'Yi is Key' by Walter Capps. Just completed, I have it for editing. Brilliant, couldn't sleep for thinking about it last night.

[narayanr]

Where can I purchase this book you speak of("Yi is Key", by Walter Capps. Can I google it?

[GR8Chi]

Too new to be anywhere. WC is gm DOT gus AT nethere DoT com if you'd like more info.

[narayanr]

"WC is gm DOT gus AT nethere DoT com if you'd like more info." So, what the hell does this mean? Can you answer in English? I mean, c'mon now, really!

[GR8Chi]

Sorry, hit 'remove' instead of 'reply' to your last comment. Should wear my glasses when I do this. This system won't permit email addresses in these comments. gm DOT gus AT nethere DOT com is the best I can do.

[fiercesttiger]

Thanks for sharing, can you tell me the linage of this form and teacher please?

FT