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  • fifa is a crap game, they are trying to mimick KONAMI but they dont have that culture so let them brag about online match counts... soon they will be kicked out of the door to bring some more idiot lazy ass gypsies...

  • Pro graphic Arrows.. tutorial!??? teach meee?

  • your a moany cunt

  • 180 degree passes of perfection over the top of a defense is the most irritating thing ever yet a player of Xavi's standard can't slip a grounded through ball through a 20 foot wide gap (always passes TO the defender) If i'm just awful and nobodies experienced that on a regular basis then I apologise. p.s super defender speed

  • @poots182 LOL!!! SUPER DEFENDER SPEED!!!!! I totally understand u

  • YOU FUCKIN IDIOT! IF YOU 'D TURN OFF AUTOMATIC PASSING YOU'D SEE HOW THE STORY CHANGES... READ THE MANUAL AND THE OPTIONS MENU FIRST...

  • @wackrappaz88 Yeah but that shouldn't even be an option!!! They should keep of automatic settings!!! It six because u can even play onine with automatic settings and that kills real gamers losing to some garbage noobs that use this crap!

  • @LetsPlay1707 you're right but there are less skilled players that won't be able to play if you turn off automatic settings...for example kids or noobs...

  • @iperi0nener0 I dont care about assisted passes... What I do care about is Assisted Passing Power! That makes ur passes extremely accurate from impossible angles and makes the defense AI cut out passing lanes automatically...

  • thats because their passing skill is good man.....and you think so? watch this...it can be done if ur pro /watch?v=p8xP96tLOBg&feature=r­elated

  • dude, in the end, no matter what you do...games cant be like real life.

  • i thoughy fifa was about having fun not with ridiculos passing shit now i cant even make a single goal

  • gay

  • this dude is the biggest retard i have ever seen.... u dont knw shit all if u hate it that much go and shag PES!!!

  • Fifa 11 is too hard to be fun, even for the best of us. It is less like being difficult overall and more like being impossible to score anything innovative, due to dodgy passing systems (like when you pass and because another player is in that area it chooses him, regardless of the power used), ridiculous pressure (full pressure at all areas of the pitch for 90 minutes, unrealistically high stamina for A.I opposition). It all comes down to crosses, or one two's in front of the defence. Yawn.

  • ONLY NOOB PLAY LIKE THIS...go to ur bed 

  • PS. What a stupid video

  • This passing can be done in real life, it would be unrealistic to make it even less possible to do it.

  • THEY ARE PROFESSIONALS NOT ELEMENTARY SCHOOLERS

  • it will be too hard to play barcelona tiki taka style if its too realistic

  • the defending in this game is ridiculous so easy to win the ball back even with skills just jam the a or x button

  • @capcom9o9

    Try playing with a crap team.

  • Play full manual, it's what I do for realism. Can't make myself play with assisted or semi-assisted settings. Been playing full-manual settings for about a year now.

    Games played and victories earned are far more rewarding when played in full manual. That's just my opinion from experience. Plus you can pull off wonderful crosses and exceptional through passes and shoot with any button honestly. Though using cross or lob button to do a Chip Shot is cheap. :P

    Don't a be a scrub.

  • Put all your setting on manual, play pes 2011 or if those doesn't do it for you then go play with a real ball.

  • you're playing as barcelona, what do you expect?

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  • If you turn off all the passing, crossing, through ball, shooting and power control on wireless control settings to manual instead of assisted, you have complete control. Thumbs up so people can see.

  • NERD!, i'll still whoop ur ass in this game with your fancy angles

  • This is the only thing PES11 has on FIFA - the passing and through ball weight/direction.

  • Man, talk about being a geek. Hey, I know everybody wants to have a very realistic simulation game. But hell, if you guys want the experience to be so realistic, go out of your basement to a field and play the real thing. Heck, I don't think people would enjoy having an offside call go against them if you want it to be REALLY realistic.

  • @mohdnazmihares i want more reailsm! lol

  • I think people are stupid. Its the simplicity of pressing buttons that makes noobs win from actually good players.

    Also, with the assisted settings, football isnt played, its who gets fastest to the goal.

  • One of the very few things pro has over fifa is realistic passing,

    Gettinng beat off a ping pong passer disgusts me!

  • Pro passing hasn't brought anything good to FIFA. Now instead of passing, people abuse the long pass. I'm all for realistic graphics but not realistic gameplay.

  • If your passing is set to ASSISTED then the CPU does all the work for you and negates the Pro Passing. To feel the REAL effects try it on Semi-Assisted or even Manual. These options weaken the CPU influence varying degrees and really open up your game to some challenge.

  • Man fuck all yall dat want a simple game fuck pro evo shit, dat game for lil kids if yuu want an easy ass game, FIFA series is way better, more teams, realistic and hard to make goals from 40 yards out unlike easy ass pro evo pussies

  • @MRChewy94 FIFA 11 is truly awful. The AI players are like, the player control method is poor, when you change to a man he has a little epilieptic fit before you can control him, the passing is terrible, the only thing that's any good about FIFA is having the real names,more teams, decent commentary, and shooting. All cosmetic crap that adds nothing to gameplay or realism & just caters for children & spastics.At least PES has individuality , and now freedom and great passing system.

  • @MRChewy94 I meant to put The AI players are like retards in FIFA 11.

  • @nickxcore74 The AI are even more retarded in PES2011. You pass a ball to someone, but it doesn't reach them, and your nearest player will just stand staring at it even though he could reach it. PES also has twitchy players when they get switched to, often losing you goals.

  • Fifas passing is shit they don't go where you want them to go half the time and the weight of the passes is wrong and thats using assists

  • @nickxcore74 fifa isnt shit its more realistic then pro evo. but i will agree that the pass and go moving is useless. even in team managment I cant effect the way the players move into space which sucks.

    i prefer fifa 2004's off the ball control where you can move them into running space.

  • @tag1989 If you read my comment i didn't say FIFA is shit i said the passing was lol.And if you are playing against the cpu on the harder settings the games a joke.Sure online it's not so bad,but offline it's a joke.FIFA 11 for me is way overrated.And i wish stupid fanboys would stop rubbishing PES,as back in the last gen of gaming PES was far superior to FIFA,and if anyone thinks different then are are retarded.This gen PES has got worse,but FIFA isn't as amazing as people make out.

  • @nickxcore74 I would have to disagree with you I think FIFA online is awful. Half of the people can't build their offense so instead they make long passes the entire game.

  • @rickyperu22 i beat a guy who played with real madrid withe arsenal last week. i finish with 75% possession. he was bitching the whole time... I wish i had recorded tht match.

  • fiffa should not have passing assistance why put these things in there next year im getting pro evo

  • @Gratzable fifa is shit compared to pes u cares about licenses when u cant make a fucking simple pass

  • change some of the settings to semi assisted, you'll get a much more realistic play through of the game.

  • Dosnt matter about power, because if you have Pass assist on the computer does the work for you... But al this 360 shit can be done in real life lol.

  • fifa is garbage... play pro evo noobs

  • I remember when i started play FIFA on my sega 16-bit...fifa 94..they´ve made some progresssince then lol

  • lol @ at the fifa fanboys bitching. great vid bro.

  • fuck me you're a sad bastard

  • have u seen if you have pass assist on full?

  • so ... do you have a life?

  • Fuck off EA sports with your Pro Passing shit, can't we just play the game without any "real life realism" shit?

  • @dohertyz

    Go play pro evoloution if you want a game filled with unrealistic keap cunt.

  • lol when fifa 15 or 17 comes out in the future there will be no ping pong and here u will see who knows more about football possession realistic build up play.

  • fifa 11 is still very unrealistic. there is still some ping pong passing but of course less than fifa 10. u can score most goals when facing diagonal to goal. a lot of time if u are facing forward against the gk and shoot second post u can miss.

  • Obviously some geeks with no job or life have to much time on their hands, maybe you have the time to spend hours mastering even harder pro passing, but the rest of us have jobs and real friends not just the online kind

  • @TiedLaces Lol You owned that noob xD

  • the ballwill roll pass him, and by the time u get the L1 to switch to the player u want (which it should really do when u press it once) the ballis lost.

    im prety sure they onpurposely make these glitches just so you look forward to the next fifa and hope that the glitches are gone

  • FIFA 11 is shit even tho there isnt much option on soccer games.

    1. passing is shit , as u have to be milimeter perfect with every pass

    2. the ball moves way too slow , a player from 20 meters away can easily intercept a normal pass

    3.the L1(player select) for ps3 always chooses the most inconvinient players at important times e.g defending counter attacks

    4.when theres a dead ball the player who is not under ur control does absoloutly nothing until u select him the ball will roll past him.

  • @MrPersian001

    You got a ps3 that`s why you hate the game so much. Ps3 sucks dick.

  • @MrPersian001 Try selecting the player with the right analog stick,and then you should be fine with selection.I kinda disagree with the first one especially.In the third option,try increasing this the pass power even tho' you're kind right,it does feel a bit slow.With the last one I am 100% with you,the movement of YOUR players is dreadfull.The AI seems to be fine tho...

  • @CutterMoon i think they just need to increase the ball speed so they dont get intercepted too easily if your aim is right. also when the other team has momentum doesnt matter what player they choose they will out run you like a horse, and its way too exadurated

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  • @pradsrathore 

    I hope they make pro passing mandatory to stop pricks like you who can`t play for shit without ping pong passing.

  • omg fail  ... real life ???

  • instead of spending time on this video you couldve spent time getting better at the game... there will never be a perfect game, and I do understand your frustration: spanish players are ridiculously over rated in this game. But, it everyone has the same advantage with pro passing, then its not really a big deal because everyone has a chance to be good at this game. Oh, and this is still not ping-pong passing

  • I have to agree with darthvladi - it looks like you're using top tier clubs in this video. I'm playing as Corinthians in the Liga do Brasil, and I can't really get away with those passes. IRL, Barça *does* accomplish a lot with fast ground passing. Not every team can do that, of course, which is why the top-tier teams should be top-tier. Ergo, it shouldn't be surprising if a 4.5-5 star team in FIFA11 can make some pretty tough passes.

  • I always thought you could turn off assisted passing if you want a challenge

  • Wow, whoever made this video is a fuckin idiot. Having the time to sit there making calculations on passes and stuff, and working out the weight of passes shows you've clearly got too much time on your hands. Fifa is all about going either online, playing against your mates, or whatever, and HAVING FUN. Not getting a calculator out. I've officially seen it all now...

  • @ettie2k7 Shut the fuck up you dumb shit. Get your tongue out EA's ass and stop thinking you owe them shit. They've sold you feature which the game doesn't even have. Fucking half wit thick cunt.

  • @ettie2k7

    I think your mentally retarded and jealous because your incapble of making such a video. I love the new pro passing system, its just the ball needs to move a bit faster.

  • wtf get a life

  • what are you saying the did activate an option in the menu.

    so that you haven't to dose the pass.

  • I try to get my passes at good angles and try to make the way I play look realistic, but I don't really care if some of the passes are unrealistic (because I don't make those sort of passes often anyway). No offence, but it's pretty ludicrous that you think EA will listen to this. They have done very well to improve on the Fifa 10 passing system anyway. What do you expect? They can't make it perfect that quickly.

  • get a life u sad fuck nobody cares if it was real no one would score

  • holy shit seriously.. i know games have to be realistic to be more fun but who the fuck wants to spend time on getting the exact power and exact direction on every pass? maybe a couple of weirdoes like you. games are supposed to be fun, and it's not fun if it's super fucking hard to make a pass

  • @Zollaganzi I'm glad you think that any harder than the current (almost impossible to fail) passing would be 'super fucking hard'.

  • @TiedLaces yep your welcome, maybe you should try making a video game instead of complaining about fifa :D oh right, all you can do is type shit on youtube. just fucking play the game or don't

  • @Zollaganzi It must be nice to be young, or dumb enough to believe that what you've written is a valid argument. Fortunately, on the forum, where a much higher percentage of people have brain cells, my side is winning 4 to 1.

  • @TiedLaces it's glad to see that your forum is winning 4 to 1 haha when 99% of people who play fifa don't really give a shit about the forum

  • @Zollaganzi I'm glad to see that you assume that because people don't speak they agree with you.

  • @TiedLaces Yeah, you are really showing us how many brain cells you have.. Spending your time making a rediquless video. Go outside and play.

  • @Zollaganzi

    You just hate it because the only way you know how to score is ping pong passing faggot.

  • @hacktgs2 woah calm down with like 50 comments in a row, people here actually have a life unlike some faggot

  • @Zollaganzi

    Your the one who constantly trolls this video looking to reply to comments, you must really have a life. I know you are going to get of on yourself now hahaha. Noob, if you don`t like this game don`t play it, its as simple as that. Just because people are better than you, and actully like the idea of no Ping pong passing doesen`t mean where fucked up. Actully we are the kinds people who like realistic games, which noobs like yourself just can`t actully become good at.

  • @hacktgs2 do you even know what i was talking about? then shut the fuck up, plus i fucking love this game, did i ever say that i don't like this game? where did you get these facts? are you fucked up in your mind?

  • @Zollaganzi agreed, this pro passing stuff has taken the fun right out of fifa games. I dont like it. whats realistic about HAVING to keep your eye on a power metre

  • @DanielThomasVideos If you were any good you would know that you don't ever need to look at the power metre - it's something you can just do like breathing. I play manual and I still never need to look at the power bar.

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  • @TiedLaces wow you must lead an active life, your my hero

  • @Zollaganzi Yes You're right, people who prefer realism will always choose PES wich got realistic passess. And little kids who don't like real football and can't play on playground cause they soccer lames, don't appriciate that and prefer arcade easy style games from EA, like NFS with no car crashes :)

  • @misiekpierozek So wait, PES is realistic with players who can cross an entire pitch in a matter of seconds ?

    Yep, ok. PES has lost most of it's realism since PES6 (which is still, even now, one of the best football games I've ever played). The whole 'FIFA = arcade, PES = realism is outdated and frankly, fucking boring now.

  • @Jelle1880 you should defintely try PES 2012, i find passing much more pleasing and rewarding...

  • @misiekpierozek Wait Fifa is fake???!!! PES is GARBAGE!!!!

  • @Zollaganzi Hell no it makes it more realistic... if you want arcade games play PES!!!

  • who else is pissed off with the defenders on this game, its like the difficulty is set on legendary (im on semi pro btw) and there all glued to the ball even the shittiest of defenders and EA said they went for realism this year ha, the games more fustrating than fun not to mention the virtual pro online lag and lobby fuck ups

  • @coasterrick I am, I play on world class and Torres can't wriggle a defender off for shit, the only way I can score is if it's a cross. Taking on a player is like N'Gog trying to solo Inter Milans defense. It's bollocks.

  • I think ... that if u wanna have more realistic game u should try PRO evolution ....

  • heres an idea get out you sofa and go have a kick about you have too much time on your hands

  • you wanna be 100% realistic weirdoes are getting out of hand, go outside if you want 100% realism, gameplay will always be more important then realism, get it in your silly heads

  • @themewz Increased realism is key to good gameplay.

  • yeah but you notice when the pass is under weighted it still reaches them but not as swiftly as it would if you hit it right, therefore slowing your attack down.

    btw, you dont want it to be too spot on otherwise it will be too hard and annoying to play. i think its quite impressive, it eliminates ping pong passing but doesnt make it a piece of rubbish to play either.

  • yeah but you notice when the pass is under weighted it still reaches them but not as swiftly as it would if you hit it right, therefore slowing your attack down.

    btw, you dont want it to be too spot on otherwise it will be too hard and annoying to play. i think its quite impressive, it eliminates ping pong passing but doesnt make it a piece of rubbish to play either.

  • you're damn right, pro passing not working as advertised.

  • 0:46 the reason the pass is really hard is because it is going to the next farthest player, plus, half power trying to go to the next farthest player probably isn't much, because he probably could kick a lot harder pass. Use reasoning, dude, before you go and "petition" against the best soccer game.

  • @guitarman2134568 Half of optimum power is half of optimum power - half of the power required for that pass to be perfectly weighted - there is no way that makes sense. If you'd done that on manual, the pass wouldn't have got close.

  • how do u turn it of??? and can u turn it off online rank matches

  • So you want players falling over when they try to make 180 passes and miss-hitting the ball and every second pass to go astray or to the opposition? Shots to fly off into row Z. Or hit the corner flag unless the player is facing goal and has no defenders around him? Yeaaaahhh. That would make a "great" game alright!! It's called a game for a reason you know. It's supposed to be entertainment. Not a simulation for trainee footballers.

  • the passing sucks man -_-

  • EA can't make it too realistic, they have to make it faster paced and easier to play in short bursts. It's a video game, goddamnit, and the point is to have fun.

  • the new passing system in fifa is shit fifa 10 was so much beeter, its spoiled the game

  • @dazzag26

    You just hate how you can`t ping pong pass retard.

  • you're either 12 or a complete virgin, stop analysing games so much and enjoy then, yeah it could be a little more improved, but much better than fifa 10.

  • @seandrumzmusic

    Your just a retard who is incapable of anlyising anything.

  • ive been playin fifa 11 now for a while today, i always go celtic, and its frickin impossible, every pass i make, goes straight to the opposition, and my players constantly fall over. its so frustrating. im always havin to hold the sprint button down, coz their players are shit, but holdin sprint seems to badly impact the ability for the players to control the ball or pass, i nearly threw the controller through the telly after yet another defeat, 12 games, 1 win, 2, goals

  • @gwelsh123 I threw my shit (controller) at the wall!! 19 games 2 wins 2goals. and only because the opponent didnt pick Barca, Chelsea, or milan!

  • @ivan909ivan we should have a game, see who the shittest is!

  • @ivan909ivan Gamer tag IVAN GUAPO on xbox live hit me up

  • sometimes i just enjoy playing the game and not worrying about what angles my passes are at, guess thats just me....

  • @ToMoRobertson y thats just u and some other noobs . if u wanna play on pro level u should think about these things

  • This is interesting, but stupid. EA doesn't expect us to look at that bar and weight the pass perfectly EVERY single time.

    Especially those passes in defence, do you think that a no-pressure pass in defense is going to be punished for not enough power?

  • if you dont like the passing and want a more realistic experience then go get a ball and some friends so u guys can pass the ball to each other, thats as realistic as you can get.

  • well, with pass assists on all you need to do is tap the button.

  • in other words press the pass button and direct it where you want it

  • I think the effects are actually noticeable, although they are not VERY noticeable. They'll probably get it right next year anyway...

  • amateur difficulty for the loss.

  • if the game was TOO realistic it would be shit.

  • Just look at this video (watch?v=bL3X2S1PvFg) at second 0:09, Its the SAME sample you show here at the second 0:50 (even harder in PES vid). Can you see the diference? In PES the ball leave lika misil from the boots of the player and look at the bar.

    At least in you example the ball goes by bouncing and slower, instead fast, precise and a smooth and clean projection.

  • hmm... interesting yor vid. But i have to say it: These passes are normal for Barca players... They are the best players around the world. Even Pique is capable to make these simple passes.

    Pick a Mexican, Russian or Usa club and see if you can do it and have perfect passes.

    Even for me in real life these passes are kinda easy to do. I really cant understand why this should be changed.

  • @darthvladi These passes are not 'normal' for Barca players. Watch a little more football, a little less highlight reel.

  • @TiedLaces Seriously, im an amateur player, but with vast experience (around 18 years playing in torunaments, football 11, 7, indoor, and sala), and these passes are not the great thing...

    Additionally, if you really want an exactly simulation of real life, then most of the games would be 0 - 0 and with only 1 or 2 chances to score.

    I think this is the exactly point in which you can play something "real" but spectacular at the same time...

  • @darthvladi What they could do is to create "Arcade" and "Simulation" modes and you can chose if play like PES in Arcade mode, or Simulation (EVEN a insane simulation of FIFA).

  • @TiedLaces LMFAO. the best part of what darth said was that "Even Pique is capable to make these simple passes." yes... pique can defy laws of physics and gravity to make a 180 degree "simple" pass after a poor first touch... true.

  • @TiedLaces Actually they are... most of the barcelona players have excellent passing skills, with the exception of maybe puyol.... pique was at that world famous academy with fabregas iniesta etc.... he's shown time and time again his ability and range in passing coupled with excellent vision. Even though he is a world class defender, he has the mind of an attacker too (shown by his great finishing skills against inter) although he is a cheat (CHELSEA MATCH HANDBALL)

  • @TiedLaces Dunno, I do see your point and agree with your video in many ways, but I still feel Pique et al would be able to make many of these

  • You know you are playing with the best players in the world right ?

  • Lmao. Press start. Go to wireless control settings. Turn passing assist off. Then, and only then, will the passes accurately be represented by the power meter. I see what you are saying though, you don't want noobs to be able to get away with rubbish like that. I feel you, but hey, what can we do? :)

  • @KenKaniff1992 I play manual, with a manual only club, or on 1v1. I'm one of the biggest proponents of manual on the forums - but even manual shouldn't be able to pull off 180 degree passes as it does.

  • Stuff like this is going to happen and has in real life especially with the best teams. The game is trying to create an illusion of a team and in real life a team has skills and a game plan. So seemly awkward passes can and has worked before because players click n have chemistry but bc you can't yell to your digital players at every move, the computer has to set up runs and anticipation for you. so when you do an awkward pass it works out because your players should 'know' already expect it.

  • About the awkward angle passing. Think about it is a video game not real life. So to force most player to play like they do in real life is pointless. Player like xavi have things like team chemistry and skills so all these unrealistic angles you mention are possible. Ever seen ze roberto score from 5 degrees from a defended goal. Dani Alves and inesta pass around pressuring defensers with ease. Or maicon ping ponging from his half to score. Things like these should be possible with the best.

  • I don't see anything wrong with this video. Your complaint about under-weighted passes are without bases. If you think about those pass succeed because of momentum. And if you look carefully the ball is only true and on the ground when you give the right weight. Otherwise the ball still makes travels but bounces and is less predictable. why should this be? because no player will ever pass so that it stops right at another feet. Think about it the ball has to first speed up then down.

  • I think you just want everyone to play on manual. If you don't like guys playing on assist then set your filters. I like football but that doesn't mean I want to be a master at the game and know every angle and weight of every pass, to enjoy it. Some of us are casual gamer who want to pull xavi like pass without a sweat, or pull perfect chip through passes like lampard to anelka. so why try to force us to play the way you want us to? We paid for the right to play this game too.

  • well if the gameplay its on pc then there's no error because pc version doesn't have ''pro passing'' or ''be a goalkeeper'' , or ''11 vs 11'' 

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  • Why do you play FIFA anyway? Seriously dude, i tested both demos and PES is much better, not just graphics, but gameplay too. I'd only wish that PES had licences of every team on earth like FIFA, but there's nothing else you can reproach to that game...

  • AHAHAH FIFA IS A FUCKING NOOB

  • This is Barcelona. Have you seen some of the passes they produce in real life? There footballing ability is ridiculous. You're telling me you'd enjoy Xavi always misplacing passes as if he's playing League 2 football? I don't think so. Just play the game mate.

  • What assistance you on? If this is manual I'd say yeah, this shouldn't happen, but if it's assisted then it's fairly reasonable, especially with some of the best passers around.

    Frankly I'd personally leave any analysis till we have the gold edition in our hands and can test it with teams outside the top demographic. Frankly I see you did not use Leverkusen, the weakest team in the demo.

  • what a load of shit this video is, using pique as an example as a bad passer too? he has great technique for a defender, he gets forward for Barca more than some of their midfielders like xavi or busquets do

  • Fair points and not being a fanboy but a few points:

    - These are some of the best players in the world. Maybe not the same with lower ranked teams.

    - What's the assisted / manual settings here?

    - What's the difficulty? If it is reasonably low maybe the Ai isn't the same as legendary where the Ai might be getting those passes

    Saying that, if these things are all on highest (i doubt for a test subject/tour etc) Then it doesn't look too different. Although WC>10 so think this will step up again

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  • I suggest that online assisted passes should not me allowed, neither shooting assisted.

  • I agree, it's too easy and to often to make perfect passes. Some people argue that it is the best proffesional players/teams who can make these passes perfectly. But the main difference is that the professional players are not playing themselves, WE are playing THEM, we are not proffesional, we are just the USER. There got to be a difference between how good of accuracy MY pass will be compared to the other user (my opponent online).

  • @holamoco Yes but even with assisted passing that is the case. If you try a looped ball over the defence or a slide rule pass through the centre, if you dont have an eye for it or the skill needed it wont work, that's the difference between good passing and bad passing at the moment. Good defending is also a factor in the success of a pass. With short passing, come on, 90% of good pros can keep their short passes right without even thinking about it, they do so many possession drills

  • I have a strong suspicion that this petition is only relevant for the online gaming community and to be quite honest I dont think for a second that online players are the majority fans in Fifa, there's waayy too many who dont take it as seriously and want to be able to enjoy Fifa without struggling over perfect passing.Manual passing is there for hardcore gamers, and if you've gotten so good that its not a challenge any more, maybe you've played the game too much and should try giving it a rest

  • Alright, no offence to you, but there's not a snowball's chance in hell that I'm signing any petition based on the evidence you've presented here.Not a single team outside of the Champions League!?How can you expect to test the range of the new passing with only the best players and the best teams?You picked one defender, Pique, but he's an outstanding passer and also was awarded 2nd best defender in Europe by Uefa for last season's performances.Naturally he's going to be brilliant in Fifa 11

  • @Rodgerinho Then I hope you'll agree with me when you play the demo and have a chance to try it out yourself. I didn't play in the videos or pick the teams, what I can achieve is therefore limited at this stage - but the vast majority of people seem to be on my side of this debate - so I'll lose no sleep.

    Incidentally - I've played the game - I know it's wrong. I've done my best to convince people - and generally I've been very successful.

  • @TiedLaces Dont get me wrong, if I play it and agree with what you've raised then I'll be keen to sign a petition to campaign towards making it more authentic, but right now this isnt a compelling argument, and I'm sorry but I just cant take your word on it.Even if you get an overwhelming number of signatures, I'd wager it will be Fifa 12 before anything different is added, after all it's only 2 weeks before the shipping date, the copies of Fifa 11 will be in transit to most countries by now

  • @TiedLaces What I'd hate to see is more casual gamers playing Pro Evo because Fifa alienates them with a steep learning curve.For those of us who play it excessively we still need casual gamers to enjoy the experience or the quality will nosedive like in previous years of Fifa.It still needs to have a pick-up-and-play element and a natural feel to it that doesnt frustrate less committed gamers.At some stage, with the development of online players skill levels, they may create an online-only Fifa

  • @Rodgerinho Except that Pro Evo has always got this part of the game right. Pro Evo's passing system this year is immensely harder than FIFA 11s.

  • @TiedLaces I'll take that on face value, but Pro Evo is, and always has been, a much easier game to play. Most Pro Evo players I know say that they cant be bothered with Fifa, Pro Evo is more fun etc. and that Fifa is harder to get to grips with. So if Fifa increases the passing difficulty to a point that requires a certain skill level or previous experience, more gamers will make the switch to Pro Evo, in my opinion.

  • @TiedLaces That will be a huge blow to all Fifa players because the casual gamer makes up