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  • windows vista made microsoft the most money cuz so many people upgraded to vista than downgraded to xp

  • bill gates rocks XD @awesomeweekends steve jobs is a turd!!!

  • @jaymes2k8 Bill Gate's has the same B-Day as me, Oct 28.

  • woot u on about?

  • Microsoft rocks! Apple rocks! Corporation rocks!

  • END OF ARGUMENT MY SUMMARY:

    It dosent matter who came first and shit

    What MATTERS is this:

    Mac is a bit more eye-candy and more expensive. But navigation and products are difficult and hard to find. You can't update a mac easily.

    Windows is more popular, not as much eye candy, but features and products are better. I'm not saying vista is great, but I honestly advise it if you have good specs

    Even if mac was first, windows did something to make it more popular

    I'm not saying I love vista

  • eye-candy? wtf u on about? lol you clearly have no idea what you talking about. macs are no more expensive then pcs. you buy 1 say... Macbook, within 5 years you still have that same Macbook but for a PC user that laptop would have broke, need repair or even bought a new one. It's in the long run that macs are cheaper then pc because they dont crash, get viruses and have the most stable and secure OS ever: OS X. and the quality of Apples machines is far superior to any PC manufactors

  • not for gaming...

  • Look 3 comments down.

    He says mac follow windows?!? Where did he get this? Macs started in late 70's!! Windows appeared in early 90's. It's insane to think that macs copy windows. It's just vice versa. Now, with Windows 7 coming, Microsoft again doesn't have ONE innovative idea. Everyone has to understand that Apple is the only innovator in the whole industry. iPhone launched - tens of clones a year later, MacBook Air launched - others announcing ultra-portables a year later. etc. Think about it

  • I totally agree with you!

  • yeah people take advantage of apple. microsoft sucks

  • acctually microsoft and apple started at the same time, stewve jobs stole xerox operating system, then that same year bill stole steves os. and just because there wa no windows doesnt mean anything, it was called microsoft dos, came out ages before the apple two

  • Dos used to be 86-dos, which bill stole.

  • -New Windows 7 Superbar (Works far better than the mac dock)

    -Touch screen phones have been around before the iPhone

    -Microsoft had Windows Mobile first

    Apple did innovate some, but Apple did what they do best, taking old ideas and making them a little bit better.

    Did Apple invent the MP3 Player? No, do people yell at Apple for not doing it first? No, other manufacturers should be able to make them, same with thin laptops and touch screen phones. Look at the Office suite, MS.

  • - No it doesn't, just beacuse you feel like the dock ripoff in Win7 is better don't make it so

    - so what? Apple reinvented the phone, brought it to a whole new level

    - "had windows mobile first"? I don't see anyone else having windows mobile what the hell are you talking about?

    - Apple has inovated far more then microsoft

    - they invented something totally new and never seen before: iPod a far superior music player then anything else, and still is today.

  • I take back that OS X's dock is worse than Windows 7 because Apple added the same feature that Windows 7's superbar has with the windows minimizing in the icon.

    Apple reinvented the touch screen phone but Microsoft went into the phone market before Apple, something Apple didn't do first.

    I can't prove or disprove that statement, both innovate equally imo.

    The ipod was not anything totally new and never seen before, MP3 players were on the market beforehand, they just made it cheap.

  • Stop fooling yourself. Look at what ppl used back then, CDs, those crappy little flash drives or harddrives.... so considering the iPod was smaller then anything else ever (ike a deck of cards) and hold more songs then any other device could too, and had the longest batterylife then any other device had also, AND you charged it threw the FireWire port not with those AAA batterys... so yes! iPod was totally new

  • This is my point people scream that Microsoft has no innovative ideas when they come out with the Zune HD that has a vast amount of different and imo better features than the iPod touch, yet when Apple made an MP3 player where MP3 technology already existed, it's automatically innovation. I'm not denying that the iPod was great and it did great things for the MP3 player market, but the fact is that they took current technology and made it better. Just like the Zune HD.

  • I find it funny, that you yourself made a video of you on a Windows PC. You seem like a giant Apple whore... but what do you know, you use or used a Windows 7 PC.

  • Me? I prefer Windows 7 much more than OS X. I would much rather have a Windows 7 based PC than an OS X one.

  • @Nnemicvids

    -great minds think alike

    -o great, apple made there phone so its like a computer, and its worth more than a PS3 or Xbox 360 elite!

    - What r U talking about?

    -how has Apple inovated more than microsoft?

    ok, Ipods are good, great features

  • @0m3n1337 Dude I like both apple and microsoft, don't fool yourself and say apple didn't do anything. Apple created the mp3 player without a doubt, before the ipod it was just liek cassette/cd players that were portable. The ipod held a bunch of songs and it was the size of a deck of cards. Also, Apple created the mouse, look at your computer right now and try to imagine using it without a mouse. Before the mouse it was just codes that you had to memorize.

  • @MegaSam179

    Dude, xerox created the mouse.

  • BORING ! =( steve jobs is better at this stuff !

  • yeah. hes does funny things at his keynotes

  • blablabla steve jobs is better

  • ur such a mess!! do u think mac is better? then why is almost people use windows?

    MAC IS JUST A WINDOWS FOLLOWER! IT APPEARS WHEN MICROSOFT HAS BEEN ALREADY A BIG BIG CORP!!

  • please go and learn, Vista has stolen ideas from Mac, Also Windows has the most virus's now piss off?

  • most virus are man-made. since windows is the mainstream it gets the most hits. no os is safe, even linux. there is a virusscan made for linux but i never bother with.

  • Any Window is the King the Computer Industry and no one get that throne

  • I hate it when people say this is boring. Its not supposed to be exiting, its supposed to be informational. If you want something that makes you go ooo and aaaah, your in the wrong place

  • Yes, but steve jobs makes his keynotes so much more exiting, he talks about the future and the present, were Bill is talking more about the past, and telling us stuff we already know.

  • to know the past is to understand the present, and hypothesize the future...

  • Yes, we but already know the past, we lived it already. I don't need a review on the past, we only wish to know the future because we already understand the past. Plus the past is the past, we get it. But you don't have to fixate on it.

  • you have seen the past. But you don't know it until someone reviews it for you. Giving a little information for those who don't know the past won't hurt, and its review for people who already seen it.

    Reviewing is Relearning the past

    knowing the past helps us better know the future.

  • O so now your saying because bill goes over the past, that that enables me to relive the past and that I can't relive it without him, what a deluded idea. And yes a little info is good. But not a whole lesson, you should say what they have overcome but only in a small segment of the speech. It should be enough to start an idea of what the past is, not telling us what the past is. A nudge to the memory, not a punch. When you clicked this to watch it, did you click it learn about Win95 or Vista?

  • calm down.

    You can relive the past from your perspective, but to know the past is different, to know the impact.

    When the Great depression hit, most people didn't know it until halfway through the depression. So from reviewing and relearning the past we can further understand it. To sit through the entire lesson, even if you know most of it is a great thing to do to review.

    Though you dont HAVE to view the video, don't hate a video cause its exists. Nobody is forcing you to learn anything.

  • steve jobs is hoter jajaj

    he makes everything boring lol jajaja

  • this is boring, see how much is lookin at stevejobs and apples speach? this is borrrringggg!

  • BOOORRRRINGGGGG

  • Why does Bill Gates always spend 2 hours explaining how the PC's evolved? This is a Vista presentation, not a history lesson.

  • When I install Vista I get a BSOD, but then after it reboots it works. But then my wired USB internet connection doesn't have any Vista drivers, so I can't get internet.

  • Ignorant users like you are why Vista has such a "bad" reputation.

  • This is because WINDOWS VISTA IS THE GREAT SHIT EVER EXISTED. It is not our fault that vista have bad reputation, its a problem from microsoft doing a fucking shit program and ruining W98, W2k and Wxp.

  • You aren't forced to upgrade to vista. You aren't forced to talk shit about it. Just because it doesn't work on your computer you don't have to be a whiny prick about it. For fucks sake, did you even check compatibility online before upgrading. Stop complaining, get over the fact that your computer can't handle vista.

  • Well wouldn't it be easier just to buy a new copy of windows and know it will work like idn, Mac OS X. And tell me if you honestly believe that it made your computer more useful/responsive.

  • Did you mean to reply to me, your question doesn't fit into our conversation.

    Just incase; Vista has made my computer much more usefull with its voice commands, its ability to diagnose and fix problems with barley any human interaction(besides telling it to diagnose and fix)

    For those who are less computer literate, it has detailed help and support.

    I knew Vista would work since I downloaded Windows vista upgrade advisor.

  • i recall a mac OS upgrade where close to nothing was compatible. and the only reason why macs usually don't need to be upgraded when an OS update comes is because they are sold with parts picks that offer pretty good performance. if you spend as much on a PC as you would on a Mac, then the PC would not need upgrading for a long time. also the new visual styling of Vista is more advanced than ever before, and more advanced than OSX, so it's gonna need some good hardware.

  • apple should make a console.. a applebox lol

  • Lol, if apple made a console, it wouldn't have any games. The Xbox is based on DirectX. As far as I know, Apple isn't known for advanced graphics in gaming.

    However, if Apple made a console it would give them an opportunity to create a base for gaming which they could integrate into Mac OSX, or possibly Mac OS 11. It's an interesting possibility that might get me interested in Apple and/or Mac.

  • Strangely enough Fur 08, the iPhone seems to be leaning towards a sort of iWii direction with the accelerometer acting as a motion detecting game controller and the games offered on the App store look pretty solid.

    Apple and Nintendo's paths may be crossing because both are interested in this sort of motion control, and even the aesthetics of the Wii itself look very Apple-white. Though if they'll be in conflict or collaboration, only time will tell.

  • it doesnt matter what other people think its what you think if you think vista works for you great if it doesnt dont keep on annoying vista users just keep on xp there.

  • I hate vista

  • I love Leopard!!! I hate Vista....

  • the apple keynotes are much more interesting

  • boriing !! anyways .. microsoft sucks latley they will slowly go out of buisness. Apple is really taking over the world lol. they have COMPLETE control in the mobile music devices industry (iPods), they have COMPLETE control in the computer industry (iMac, MacBook Pro, MacBook, MacBook Air), and they have COMPLETE control in the music and movie and tv selling industry (iTunes). So yeah in all Apple rocks and Microsoft is going away slowly.

  • wow if you were actually smart you would know that the market is the industry .. yeah maybe you should learn some of these terms before commenting deustch & complete control means they are dominant and if you still dont get that then i will try to explain it a little more: it means they sell the most and have the biggest influence on people because of where they stand .. and yes thats what i do 24/7. cause you know me oh so well :]

  • vista owns man

  • are you kidding ?? read the reviews .. they all say its HORRIBLE !!

  • i think not.....i use it now and happily without bugs and shits..cmon man it's time to upgrade

  • are you kidding me ?? most of the people have been downgrading to XP from Vista !! you need to get your facts straight .. plus Vista is just a cheap knock off of Mac OS (a.k.a. Leapord)

  • i mean I...i dont care about other ppls downgrade man....for me, it's time to get a new rig with a good spec to run vista, i bet no people will stick with XP forever....just like the download(DOT)com review, it's your consideration to upgrade or not, if you got a good PC or laptop, you can upgrade but if you are using windows XP and you are happy with it, dont upgrade.....

  • He has a point, Vista isnt that bad, it has its few bugs here and there, just like XP. In fact, Vista was created in order to help make up for all of the software vulnerabilities in XP. I agree it doesnt work with all software either, buts its pretty new, in time though, it will be just as good, if not better than XP, considering that XP's been out for 7 years and it has recieved like 3 service packs so give it time and stop with the endless vista bashing!!!!

  • I could not have put it better myself, i think that is Windows Vista, i mean, the ionly reason the XP machine u own does not work with vista,= is because of the shitty outdated Hardware in the machine, they are building Vista compatible Hardware, i got keyboard driver working, Display driverworking, sound driver working, mouse driver working (AN XP MOUSE!!) printer works, (network adapter desgined for winXP works with winVista!)

  • nicely said :)

  • THANK YOU FINALLY SOMEONE GETS IT!!! Vista already is showing some tru colors in some impressive ways. AND NO NOT JUST EYE CANDY. Get past the obvious criticisms people.

  • Oh my God. I can't even sit through a Microsoft keynote. It is SO boring. Steve Jobs knows how to entertain and inform a LOT better.

  • Agreed. I also noted that Steve actually releases things of interest.

  • this reminds me of when i used to sell news papers from the phone.

  • Today you can use Linux as easy as a windows system. As it is stable, free and open you can make good money with it. Vista isn't stable yet. So if you have knowledge about Linux, you can earn some extra money. I like that. ;-)

  • why do you people have to argue about something so stupid

  • lol he highlights fonts, whereas steve highlights things like 32GB OF RAM!!!!!!!!!! pfft Windows

  • idiots! windows is the best thing ever made microsoft have 95 % of the marcked !! and that is why bill gates is the richest and most powerful man alive!

  • So by your same reasoning, Fords and Dodges are better than say, BMW's because they sell much much more.

  • just because it sells more by nore means is it th best, its just the cheapest

  • it is not the cheapest linux is cheaper, but also like mac, just crap

  • but have you ever seen a comercial or advertising for linux

  • commercial is only a way to sell even for microsoft. but in norway we dont have commercials for OS and microsoft still is the most used OS.

  • mac os x actually is a unix based os, so it's quite similar to linux.

  • He stole the idea from apple while working with apple on the macintosh LINUX is a better os than windows for christ sake

    and LINUX IS FREE

  • linux is free? no wonder it is so crappy :D:D hahahhahaah!!!

  • Have you even tried linux its much more stable than Windows

  • Windows itself isn't that unstable, the instability is caused by shoddy drivers. Windows is the only genuinely different OS, Linux and OSX are obviously based on UNIX whereas Windows has it's own unique code. Steve does better Keynotes though :P

  • windows is better macontosh is better linux is better who fucking cares these companies are out there to make money stop living with the public and grow

  • Linux aren't out there to make money, microsoft and macintosh are. Ok, Linux have some distos that costs, but Linux by it self doesn't care. Ubuntu is the best example of a free good distrobution.

  • boring. Vista sucks. XP is better, even though it sucked. Mac can do more!

  • MAC AND WINDOWS SUCK! Linux is much better!

  • Final cut pro? I could answer by saying I don't remember ever seeing anybody running softimage|xsi on macos so don't know how your answer is even applicable here.

    I fail to see how your statement puts osx on top of windows.

    About the "real computer" thing. It sounds like someone believes that windows and macosx are the only players here?

  • Fuck the pc.

    Mac's can now run windows aswell as there own OS side by side. that alone just shits in pc users faces.

    Further more more a power mac G3 can run Virtual PC (previously made by a 3rd party software company, now bought by Microsoft) which makes it run windows xp fine on a 300mhz pc OWNAGE.

    So even search youtube.... people play half-life 2 using bootcamp or parrales.

    So what do pc users have to say to this!

  • "So what do pc users have to say to this!"

    that you still need windows because you can't do all that natively on macos?

  • What's more relevant are the softwares and apps, not the WIndows OS. What matters is what's available to the user in the end. Yes we may be forced to run WIndows just to run the apps we need, but in the end it's running on the MAC.

  • forced or not, you still need it because the almighty macos can't do all you want.

    At least on linux you can get Wine, although not everything will work on it.

  • Neither can Windows, let's see you run Final Cut Pro, oh wait, you can't. And I wouldn't try to use that x86 trump card cause then you'd own yourself based on your own arguments. More software developers are coming to the Mac, especially games. Macs are being sold faster than any PC in the market. People this time are willing to spend more on a real computer that just works rather than trying to save extra cash.

  • I never use windows. I don't need it. I do many more things native on mac, than windows can do.

  • I am the exact opposite right now, but hey, it's a free country. Anybody can use whatever system fits their needs.

  • omg his dressing style is so0000 ugly!!!

  • To do that would mean that Apple would be forced to lower their quality standard just so that Microsoft could catch up.

  • no that means apple will be better because then they will actually have money and places to work so fuck you

  • At the rate Apple is going as far as I know, they're doing fine by themselves. And before you try to use that trump card that M$ bailed Apple with $150 million, know this: It was Steve Jobs that saved Apple. M$ only invested the money in NONE-CONTROLLING shares to make people forget they were being busted by the government for the evil deeds they committed.

  • fuck you and steve jobs

  • in that case, fuck you and bill gates

  • Can you two stop arguing? Ive always use Windows and its a brill operating system but it does have it downsides e.g. crashes (even though i dont have any crashes). MAC also has downsides - no gaming support, expensive. Why cant we just enjoy which operating system we are using?

  • "Why cant we just enjoy which operating system we are using?"

    Tell that to the majority of WInPC users that have to constantly battle adware, and malware, constantly trying to tweak their system up to par, or that they have to once again send their computer to the IT shop to have it fixed. I don't think they really enjoy that do they? I think not.

  • You only have to constantly battle malware if you know how to NOT get it. Tweaking pcs is easy if you know how to do it (you can even automate it!) Sending the computer to the I.T shop? Again if you understand how to fix a machine yourself you dont need to send it to a shop! Im guessing you use a MAC because of your lack of confidence in windows. Im currently doing a National Diploma for I.T. Practitioners Degree why dont you stick to your mac and leave windows to the professionals.

  • "Sending the computer to the I.T. shop"

    I was tired when I posted that.

    "...why don't you stick to your mac and leave windows to the professionals."

    Fine by me, in the meantime us Mac users will be busy being productive in life.

  • "Fine by me, in the meantime us Mac users will be busy being productive in life. "

    you mean like posting show-off videos on youtube? :p

  • "It all started when we saw what apple did with a gui and its guinness"

  • he looks like a sak o' shit with a side of chips.

  • 100's of microsift fanboiz lmao, GO APPLE!!!!! xD

  • xp is da shaeit

  • I can't believe i'm watching this shit in my asus amd with ubuntu & firefox.. lol!

  • Windows Vista is horrid! Actually Microsoft Sucks!

  • No really its not bad at all.

  • People sayd that vista is a copy of mac so windows vista is having very very ploblems rigth now this comment for gamers like me Vista wont work with some xp games,98,95,2000 ect.. i dont khow why but I dont like vista windows xp is better for now

  • my mother just bought a new machine with vista on it. We're installing Slaxware distro of linux on it in a couple of days.

  • Lawl I have a PowerMac g4, I have a core 2 duo PC windows XP, and I have a laptop with windows 98 and ubuntu and I'm happy with all of them. All 4 of those OSs are really fine. 98/xp/OS X 10.4.10/Ubuntu. Well I put Vista on my Xp machine. Intel Core 2 6400 2.13GHz and 2 gigs of ram. And trust me when I say my video card is not lame. and Vista ran alright. A bit laggy not as much lag as everyone makes it out to be but BUGGY! is where it is. I can't even imagine patches fixing this.

  • apple and linux suck!!

  • you probaly can't afford Apple so that's why you say that :P

  • yeah, he must be really port to be unable to afford linux...

  • Do you not know that on the first Mac, there was Microsoft software. Microsoft saved Apple from failing, and they are great partners, not enemies. Why can't us users get along.

  • Apple stole from Xerox, but the basically gave it to them....and Apple did the same for Microsoft, but Microsoft, if you don't realize have some of the most evil business tactics in history.....1998 the were indicted for a MONOPOLY...and they're software is always, slow, crashing and unreliable, complicated....but cheap because of their ability to whore out their talent, but apparently...its good business.

  • because, unlike the companies, users do take things personaly and they are more apple or microsoft than the actual company CEOs.

  • Coff cfoff coff lisa coff coff coff 1982 coff coff coff

  • visa is microsofts copy of linux

  • he copied the GUI form apple

  • enough enough!!!! why you motha fucking mac linux users needed to do this all the time?!?! thinking your fun or something? shot up with your get a mac stupid fan boys advertisers, we use windows you use your crap oke? fuck off!!!!

  • You are absolutely right.

    why is there always annoying competition!

    i dont get it....

  • he uses the word "innovation" a lot... wonder if he knows the definition of that word...

  • this is a new shit from micro$oft!!

    Linux roooooox, windows suuuuuxxx

  • oh crap another linux advertiser.

  • Sigh sigh sigh, the only reasons that Im not using linux right now are: 1 Im not smart enough. 2 My printer doesn't work..and its kinda the point of my computer 3. My mother couldn't use it. U shouldn't bash Microsoft though, bash apple for putting multiple desktops/workplaces on leopard, which has been on linux for a long time and linux is free too lol. I hope Micorsoft copies multiple workstations and compiz so i can be happy. ^_^

  • Micro$oft Sucks..., MACOSX and Linux are the best!!!

  • Max OS X == Linux ? both based on unix?

  • Fucking Idiot.. without Microsoft the so called "Mac" would of been shut down and no more.. Watch the other videos how Microsoft saved your shitty maccy D

  • oh crap another anti-microsoft-ian.

  • MS lacks anything useful and fun...it's about frustration and complete nerdness..Macs are fun and just work....long live the king....OSX baby

  • If you would like the windows Vista start and task bar with out getting Windows Vista repley to trhis and Ill give you the site. BILL GATES IS COOL!

  • Apple forever. Superior products. I got to use a Mac for the first time at college, two weeks later I placed a ordered from the apple store and replaced my PC and will never go back.

  • PCs are no doubt the best machines for gaming. One area that PCs have dominated and continue to do so. BTW I also have a MAC

  • agreed. im not a gamer, but f i was i would get a PC JUST FOR GAMES. I have 2 macs and would never get rid of them.

  • every one copies everyone. face it. i have a mac. its great. go to an apple store or anywhere else, try an imac, never go back.

  • Hah. I tried the iMac. Liked it at first, too. They look sleek, but there's nothing more to them other than garage band.

  • it really depends on what your gonna use you computer. games go better with pc's. macs are better at other things like i dont really use garageband too much but i use itunes, imovie, idvd, and final cut pro. i also like front row

  • we need a 3rd player

  • linux?

    mac is the best

  • many companies back then had been experimenting with guis. it doesnt belong to microsoft or apple. someone would have done it anyway. its not very fair to say that only apple did the gui cos many ppl back then had been on to the idea for quite a while.

  • Indeed, Apple has copied Microsoft ideas, as has Microsoft copied Apple ideas.

  • Microsoft copies Apple. Apple copies Microsoft. Oh, well!

  • you are probably the smartest person ive heard from in this whole conversation about copying. im being serious, everyone is gonna take idead from other people, like making a game system, or ideas from games, EVEN SOFTWARE.

  • fuck him, apple did the GUI, not microsoft... astala vista baby

  • stfu

  • lol!? who cares any more? microsoft has been ripping off everyone and everything, so yeah, STFU !!!

  • apple got it from xerox but xerox didnt mind cus they thought it was a stupid idea. then microsoft stole from apple, and they did mind.

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