@tellnet Animals are a lot better behaved then people, they also show unconditional love, they are more loyal than any human, and are so much nicer because they do not talk back. They are sweet and loving. and they have no voice and when someone abuses them or hurts them that is where I come in. To shut those in jail who injure and hurt them.
That is the most idiotic statement ever. Matt has no clue, about how to raise good children. The bible says, raise your child up in faith and he will not depart from it. There is absolutely no harm, in raising your child to believe in God. Truly an ignorant man.
@elibeth121 it is rather laughable that anyone could belive the shit that comes out of your mouth! God is evil. God made everything? correct? God made evil! you'll say man made evil. Who made man? you'll say god. then I'll say who is respolible for man? God! If everything is part of gods divine plan, then so was the holocaust and other stuff like that were also. he obviously wants his plan to work. he wanted the holocaust to happen. god is evil and yet you think this is logical!
@MrGaddafikiller God is not evil.. No, we must learn not to imagine what God is like but rather we must learn to seek what the real God said about Himself. So lets look into the "real" God's public record, the Bible. In it God describes exactly what He wants us to know about Him.
The hollocaust was a true example of satan and evil. They misused their free will just like any person that sins. God is not evil he is only pure and good.
@elibeth121 Genocide, slavery, sacrifice, etc. I am glad that it probably isn't God's word, if God exists, God would be better than the god in that book.
@elibeth121 u said: There is absolutely no harm, in raising your child to believe in God." I want to agree, just like it is fine to allow them to believe in Santa until they reach a certain age, but Id say after they turn 5-7, you might start worrying if they still take Santa as 'gospel', if you will appreciate the pun. So I put to you, what is in your mind the significant difference between believing in God and believing in Santa? How would you qualify the difference? Kind regards from Earth :)
@LackadaisicalE Many prefer more of a "saving Santa Claus" than a creator and a judge. People like to believe in a celestial being who has lots of indulgent benevolence
. The only god worth knowing is the real one, our creator, and He must be searched for, not envisioned or imagined. We must also realize that God is a real being and not a principle.Santa Claus is a good example of a principle we envision as a person.
Organized Religion is Man-Made whatever any radical, hippy, weirdo or fanatic may say. And hey, if anyone's giving you problems and harassing your beliefs be the bigger person by telling them to take their holy book and shove it up their holy ass
Children rebelling against their irrational parents religious/spiritual [ particularly JUDEO-CHRISTIAN] in the united states is worth researching by sociologists and socio-psychologists .. such trends are virtually absent in other countries Childeren follow their parents religion till death because these religions dont enforce on your personal lives .. for eg hinduism etc
We are due for moving to a higher consciousness plane. The same way the suffering of gazelles killed by lions make the species stronger, the suffering of mankind will help us move to the next consciousness level. A greater good comes for the species. The next level is the rejection of greed, materialism and selfishness. Our current capitalist system need to collapse in order to achieve this. If you are not ready spiritually, you'll suffer. This is happening now, be ready. God Bless.
I have never seen anyone turn away from it as a result of killing their children via negligence.
I have seen a guy spread the word of "this is stupid" after having to have his freaking COLON removed after not taking his meds for Crohn's disease. So perhaps when it happens to them--they'll go "oh my god, I nearly died! I need to tell others that this is a bad idea!" but when it's just their kids...meh, they don't care so much.
@elibeth121 I can't believe i'm responding to this! Telling people riddin with aids that contreception is wrong! Mother Teressa, if I have to say more about that bitch you need to look a little further into your religion! And on and oin!
@FreeMindedAthiest Yes the church teaches that contraception is wrong, did I specifically go up to the a man ridden with aids that it was wrong ummmm no. Mother Theresa was the kindest, most loving, unselfish woman that ever existed.She went up to people with aids and leprosesy. She was gracious and loving.
@FreeMindedAthiest OH by the way Christianity has nothing to do with religion nor am I referred to as religious. That doesnt make you anything. Christianity is what I go by.
Christianity is a monotheistic religion based on the life and teachings of Jesus Fucking Christ as presented in canonical gospels and other New Testament writings.
Living according to the "Christian Ethos" is, however, not necessarily religious.
I hope the parents get diabetes to see how long it would take for them to hold out before calling a doctor. This way if they do get treatment, not only would they be deemed bad parents but also hypocrites. On the other hand if they refuse treatment, they will at least die of a show and painful death and know what they put their daughter through.
Im actually friends with an atheist . I am curious to understand her views and her perspective and she is mtually curious about christianity and esp why there are so many differnt christian groups.
I'm rambling on here a tad but the point is I can learn to have mutual respect and friendship with her and she has the same for me. atheists an d christians esp can be friends.. it just takes someone to take the first move
@casablanca4381 lol there are more athiests then u know, most dont say they are to fit in, but literally 15% of religious ppl dont really believe in god.
my point is whatever the mainstream religious affiliations are in a country. you have to choices learn to deal with it.... or in the case of the mormons, they did start their own little subculture in Utah.I think majority of religous and non religious groups adjust though
my theory is this if your in a hindu culture , you will just have to learn to deal with that and respect that. You live in atheistic ulture learn to deal with and respect that. Christian culture same thing as with a Jewish culture and so forth..
I have a terrific idea people should just lay off eachother and stop bickering. Everyone is different that is something that most christians, atheists, muslims, jews buddhist hindus just need to learn to deal with that. instead of bashing each other. There will always be variety of people in life and that i assure everyone that won't change
what i have noticed people tend to make generalizations about each other as a group. That is RARELY an accurate view . Experience and misunderstanding tend to perpetuate this view.Are all Italians in th Mafia?,All the French Smelly?,Are all the english uptigh?t, are all christians stupid/, are all muslim terroris?
I give you all a resounding NO, none of these stereotypes accurate. I'm guessing most decent people would agree with me.
Everyone who believes in a religious affiliation is an idiot? That's interesting take so your christian cardioligist is an idiot, your luthern attorney is an idiot, your episcopalian stock broker is an idiot, jewish politician is an idiot.... mmm I don't think that's accurate. I think what you are trying to say you think what they think is stupid...obviously they are not necessarily stupid..
For those interested, the parents Matt talks about got a grand total of six months in county jail (30 days a year over six years) for causing their daughter's death. At no point during the trail did they say that they regretted 'trusting in their Lord for their daughter's health'. Google 'Dale and Leilani Neumann sentence' for further details. Truly disgraceful. That poor kid.
I disagree completley with Matt here. Withholding another persons care should not constitute criminal neglect. Imagine the medical establishment was wrong on a health issue and not getting care was the better option for you to make. I do not like having this opinion but the right of folks to deny care to themsleves and their children is important regardless of how crazy the reason is.
@Redrum2381 That isn't what he is talking about. He is saying that if there is a proven treatment that works that could have saved the persons life and you don't give them that treatment then it is a crime. What you are talking about is experimental treatments and as someone that has used one of those to get cured of an illness, that's on the person that signs up for it.
@xynth101088 you still dont change the fundimentals of this problem. Who is to make medical choices. Would you rather the state make the choice and hold you criminaly responsible if you dont agree, or leave it up to the parents until the child is of age. I think leaving it up to the parents is dangerious in some cases but think the risk it better than living in a world where our government can dictate what kind of medical care you must give your children.
@Redrum2381 It should be a law like any other. Just like you are supposed to give your child various vaccines before they go to school, you should give your child a medical treatment if they are sick. I don't see what's so hard about this? It's not like anyone is saying to drug up your kid with whatever to see what happens. The point is to simply give your child treatment if there is a proven treatment to give.
@xynth101088 Ok, but the deviding line with vaccines is not being vacinated puts other kids at risk. Like any good law protect people from other people, not themselves. But it seems you shall never understand how dangerious it is to give the government this kind of athorty. Just like I dont need a sky daddy to help me with my morlals I do not need the government to tell me what kinds of medical treatment to give my kids. I can think for myself.
@Redrum2381 You might, but I'm not talking about mentality stable people. I'm talking about these nuts that don't get their children the care they need for whatever reason. At any rate the government already has the authority to do this and other laws cover it some what. I just think it should be a little more strict so kids don't killed because they parents didn't give them a flu shot or some other BS.
No, humans are merely lazy and credulous. Thinking is something that requires a lot of effort, time and energy, and humans naturally like to take shortcuts by looking for easy answers to life's questions and letting authority figures do their thinking for them.
@thatamazinggeek People are NOT religious by nature, you do not believe in god when you are born. It is only when people shove false information down your throats before your brain is developed enough to sift through fact and fiction, that you actually believe in some form of god. It is literally brainwashing, and I personally believe it should be a crime to teach your kids about religion, you are pretty much turning them into gullible idiots.
@ixcaliber Not if you teach them about all religions and science on the same time. Religions like Buddhism or Taoism may be very good for society so you shouldn't just brand them all as dangerous. Though I agree with alot of what you say.
@ixcaliber Yeah. I'm researching Taoism right now. Actually, this sounds wierd, but Taoism, as I understand it (though I'm far from an expert) an atheist religion. :p
The taoist doesn't belive in any God that created the Universe (Multiverse?) The Tao simply means "the way" and is for the Taoist the ultimate reality that exists in between poles, anywhere and everywhere. If you want to find out what it's about I recomend the great Alan Watts. Take care.
@ixcaliber I agree with most of what you said, but I differ with the point that it's a matter of age and of "sift(ing) through fact and fiction." Regardless of the person's age, I tend to accept Jung's notion of the archetypes, much of my support coming from personal experience and the findings of Joseph Campbell. The desire to anthropromorphize your surroundings seems to be a strong inherent trait for humans. But projections are not facts, nor is a blatant projection like Christianity.
@madcat789 Why? He's doing a perfectly good job making Christians look like idiots. If he comes back to Atheism he may start making atheist look like idiots.
I agree that just being a parent does not give you the right to put your children in harms way. We must be reasonable in our beleifs why would any one worship some thing that does not care about its welfare? That punishes it for being the imperfect being it created I dont get it.
I really wish theists would smarten up. This may be an assumption, but if everyone was athiest we would have a much safer, and more stable civilization.
@ixcaliber I agree to an extend. As in, I'm not sure about safer and more stable. But our society would definitely be -better- than what it is now. Look at prisons. There's a far higher percentage of theists in there than atheists, even when taking into account the amount of theists and atheists in prison. Just that statistic would already say that atheists commit less crimes. That, or that people committing crimes are also more likely to believe in a god.
@Sanquinity Well its probably because a lot of theists think that what they are doing is moral, according to them there is no problem with slavery and/or rape. Not to mention they have very little brain cells capable of independent judgement.
@ixcaliber variety really is the spice of life. no joke. I went to school where it was drone like everyone was like everyone else. well we still had problems but it was really boring
@ixcaliber i agree though , i'm a christian . and i agree that just plain stupid to not take care of your infirmed child or vaccinate them, it's irresponisble as whole, and possibly could endanger others in society.Really God gives us common sense to use. Christian scientist and JW really are resistant to madern medicine ...sad.
@fattigbonddrang You lucky bastard! I hate living here in ignorant and religious America, I was actually kicked out of my gym class because i deny the existence of any God(s) and that i accept ''The Theory of Evolution''.
There is nothing wrong with expressing what you think. I hate religion and i hate religious America, Wish i could live in Northern Sweden.. :(
@MarcusEFN if a student was kicked out fromschool due of lack of religion or of a sertin political weivpoint here it would be war. the school are not alowed to kick out student becouse of that. but to live in north of sweden. in winter it use to be -25-35 degrees C. with ALOT of snow. like canada. in south of sweden its harldy any snow and around freezing i think. in the middle where i lives its usaly is 1-2 dm of snow at winter. but the two last winters it was like in north even here in midle.
@fattigbonddrang The reason i prefer Northern Sweden is because i love the winter, When i did tell them that i was not religious, We got into an ARGUMENT! Therefore, the teacher did not want me in her class for the day. And by Northern Sweden i don't mean (the really cold parts), I'm only talkin about the parts of Northern Sweden where it might reach -15- 25 degrees C.
@MarcusEFN that cold it happens often here in the middle of sweden. i dont know how old you are but why not study at one of our universeties here in sweden? we many good universeties here. or work here?
@fattigbonddrang I'm currently 15, though working in Sweden might be a good idéa. My biggest interest is Biology. Thanks for the suggestion. I'll look into it :)
@MarcusEFN okej do it! a tip: read about carl von linné. a scientist that began classify a vast amount of plants... a huge name in biology. one universety here in sweden are named after him just as the plant Linnaea borealis.
Do you honestly believe that the children which are victims of their parents beliefs do not diserve the consequences of them but at the same time insist that their parents which are indeed also the victims of their own parents beliefs do diserve the consequences of them? You my sir have double standards. You are clearly under the influence of prejudical feelings and should seriously under go some self reflection.
The lesson that I take from this story is that you can't rely on God to solve all your problems and must do for yourself. This is a hard learned lesson for many christians. Be firm in your faith but not stupid. I am reminded of a story about a young college cheerleader who was partially paralysed after getting a shot for swine or bird flu. My point is that science can be as flawed as religious beliefs and can sometimes do more damage than good.
@StarPalidanKenobi Your right, science can be as flawed as religious beliefs. But overall science has been correct and offered a millionfold more predictions and evidence proved solutions to our ever complex universe and existence. Why do you think like expectancy has been exponentially increasing? Its definelty not the result of societies growing faith in the supernatural (and action upon it). Its the result of societies increased use of scientific understandings in the every day world.
@xx1Alex1xx Well I'm going to love to tell you this but the 2nd sentence in your last post is wrong. I say that because ancients who had faith in what "God" said, washed themselves in running water, didn't try to bleed out dieases. Now not saying they were the only ones who did that but just pointing out the facts.
i hope the parents got a huge wake up call with the death of they're child, if nothing else That.. it would be shameful if they continued to think what they did was right.
INSULIN DOES NOT CURE- WILL U TAKE TO COURT THE WORLDS SCHOOLS WHO SERVE DIABETIC - CAUSING BREAKFASTS TO THE WORLDS CHILDREM?-THATS MASS MURDER OF CHILDREN- THATS THE PLACE TO PUT YOUR ENERGY- HAVE YOU STUDIED THE VACCINE REACTION? MANY WHO SUFFERED medical procedures deaths and brain damage are not religious-you need to calm down-lol
Prayor is for concentrated plea for something to change, 'with faith people pray for physical things to take place. When these prayors are not answered the prayer claim was not ment to be because God had other plans.
Prayor and Religion is more of a plecebo to comfort people in give them hope and "faith" that all things are possible though God. BUT we must meet him half way. Therefore they should of taken their daughter to the Doc for treatment and then pray that she will recover.
back in the old days, kids would have other kids around(or animals), they would learn how to feed and clean a child by the time they were old enough to have their own, and have family to help them out. now, because of people moving from small towns, away from family, not having pets capable of reproduction, there's not a connect. parenting classes should probably be mandatory now...
child abuse and murder. nothing less. when muslim parents kill their daughters, christians throw a fit. why not throw a fit when christian parents kill their children?
the difference between the vaccination and the diabetic case is summed up in the potential for collateral damage. I feel for the diabetic girl, but there are bigger fish to fry. Like exploring how many young girls die from international sanctions based on purely political reason, but that's a different subject... this just seems exaggerated while the death toll from sanctions are largely left unexplored by the general public.... sad
I've only had a bare minimum of vaccines, and I'm fine. You know that swine flu you all lost it over? I was among you, laughing my ass off as you took the shot and got sick anyway. Me? Not even a sniffle. I never get the flu.
@bibhuna Yeah. I also remember the decision to spread it among the native Americans. Point? Europeans were more immune to it than the natives. Sorry for those honkey's with weak immune systems.
@CrudOMatic Sorry what? Anyway, the point is... smallpox isn't here any more. It's no longer naturally occurring. Why. Vaccination. The eradication of smallpox vindicates vaccination, proving that it works and can save millions of lives.
@bibhuna You remember Polio? How it was so awesome to taint Polio vaccines with Hepatitis? Like we are guinea pigs. Thanks for the Hepatitis epidemic, assholes.
@CrudOMatic These contamination scares have either been refuted or proven to be correlations, not causal relationships. In any case, the polio vaccine has also saved millions of lives. In fact, polio is getting close to being eradicated too. Unfortunately, it's anti-vaccine pseudo-scientists like you that have stopped it from happening already. Do you even know how a vaccine works? And what are your main objections to vaccines?
@bibhuna The big contamination scare was over SV40, which was cancer, not hepatitis. In 1998, the study published as 'Contamination of Poliovirus Vaccines With Simian Virus 40 (1955-1963) and Subsequent Cancer Rates' concluded that exposure to SV40-contaminated poliovirus vaccine was not associated with significantly increased rates of cancer. Also, the most common vaccine is OPV, not the IPV that was thought to be infected. And what to you mean by treating us like guinea pigs?
@bibhuna Refuted by whom? Oh yeah, by people who want you to take their garbage. Believe the liar when they "refute" claims against them. Like flu vaccines in Europe tainted with live Bird flu. Killed the homeless they tested it on. Just like Aspirin tainted with HIV. Hearing about shit like that makes me trust doctors/corps even less - I don't even think I would go to the hospital for a broken leg anymore.
I don't need the crap, and I'm not going to let sheep like you force it on me, either.
@CrudOMatic No, refuted by independent investigators, using controlled studies and evidence based science. Vaccines have a track record in saving millions of lives. Seriously, where do you get your crap from? The people who make this bullshit about vaccines up are generally the biased ones, just look up Andrew Wakeman, the guy who falsely linked autism to MMR. He only did because he was getting paid up by some dodgy lawyers, and was also making his own vaccines.
@bibhuna ...and vaccines have killed 10's of thousands. Who are you to dictate that everyone should be vaccinated, then when people's children die - WHOOPS! sorry! Here is an appointment for your next vaccination!
@CrudOMatic You mean that, because a tiny minority of people get fatal side effects from vaccines, they should all be banned? Every drug has side effects, you can die from paracetamol. Shall we ban those too?
@CrudOMatic People like you disgust me. The fact that you even have the opportunity to 'escape' from vaccines shows how privileged you are. When people around the world are dying of horrible diseases because they cannot access vaccines, how dare you dismiss vaccines as rubbish when you are one of the lucky few that can access them? Quite frankly, I hope you don't go to the hospital. Hopefully you will die before you have children, so you can't inflict your ludicrous views upon them.
@bibhuna calm down, gee... consider what is in vaccines, consider how many a person would get in their life... people can say 'well, i had all my vaccines, and i'm perfectly fine' but they're older, and from a time when 5-6 vaccines were given, maybe upward of 10, now the cdc schedule is near 40(for kids). anybody that says they're all bad, is an idiot, anyone that says they're all good, also an idiot. many people don't realise how they can cause trouble, till their child reacts badly to one.
@felderup I agree with you mate. However, seeing as I was born in India but now live in England, I've seen some of the discrepancies between health services firsthand. It really pisses me off when people squander what others are dying for.
@bibhuna ...and? just because I have the privilege to escape it, then I should be subject TO it? Also, nice blame shifting - oh people can't get it, but you can! You have no right to object to it! FUCK ON!
BTW, you don't ever have to worry about me having children, wink wink.
@CrudOMatic What blame-shifting? I'm not blaming you of anything. You have accused vaccines of not working. When I mentioned smallpox, you blame-shifted to vaccines being contaminated. When I showed you the refutations, you blame-shifted to the fact that vaccines (like all life-saving drugs) have side-effects. Don't be a hypocrite.
@CrudOMatic No, it isn't eradicated. No one ever claimed that. What has been claimed is that it has almost been eradicated. Unfortunately, anti-vaccination types like you have routinely hindered anti-polio campaigns in polio-endemic countries.
if you can get laid, you can be a parent. this fact sucks. people need to analyze their gene pool before reproducing. but, NOOOOOOooooo, ~everyone has the right to reproduce~
But Matt, washing dishes and putting food in the fridge aren't activities made up by scientists (like medicating people is), and therefore God doesn't have a problem with those things. God expects us to do usual tasks, as long as science has nothing to do with it. If a child dies because we didn't give her medicine, the obvious answer is that it was God's will. Who are you to question that?
@instereovideos You do realize that a theist would make such a comment right? They do so constantly. Look at edwardcurrent or theologikos and see the comments there, at that point then I concede.
If the re is any God, i would imagine him just playing with us;) he made us like this, so if he exists he also planned the globar weather change and finally we all die, he starts all over...
What makes no sense is if god wants them to live or die, isn't he more powerful than medicine or vaccines? Do they go around not wearing seatbelts or helmets or any kind of safety measure because god is too powerless to overcome it? There is absolutely no difference between using medicine to protect you or not using play dough to attach your roof to your house.
jesus is a loophole.it doesnt make sense because jesus sacraficed himself to himself.what kind of sacrafice is this when he knew he's going to be immortal anyway.not only that but you only made god sound like a murdering cunt and giving religious people an excuse to murder children.so dead children is all part of god's plan.what plan is this?the plan where parents neglect their children's helath and make them suffer more!
@chica0616 Wow you need your head and logic checked out. Just what makes you even think there is a heaven for her to be in right now? There is not the slightest bit of evidence to believe that heaven exist or any form of after life. You are just to afraid to think of a life that a heaven does not exist. Guess what chica you have no real reason to believe once your body is rotting in the ground that you will ever see loved ones again or any god. Sorry thats reality chica. Welcome to it.
God also says act with common sense, and he says obey the laws of the land, this means all laws. Matt you blaming God for not curing sickness is foolishness, God didn't say not to try to treat your kids for sickness. The truth is that the little girl probably is in heaven right now. you Matt are a selfish idiot to want to keep her here if God wanted her with him. Talk to someone who doesn't have any sense and who doesn't have an answer for all of your nonsense.
@abx547 The punishment for sin is Death. Jesus died for us so we did not have to go to hell with the devil. WOULD YOU HAVE SOME MANNERS TO THE THE GOD OF THE UNIVERSE THAT COULD ZAP YOU IN A SECOND! God has a plan for every life. Maybe that child touched some ones heart and convicted them. Believing in evolution is takes a lot more faith than believing that God created us. You cant answer basic quastions
@abx547 I find evolving from magical mud a lot more illogical then believing in a creator! you peopl,e cant even prove anything against God. You dont debate because you cant win.
@TheRoopeKonna I'm sorry for insulting but - are you stupid? You do realise that Darwin had MAJOR doubts about evolution right? At his deathbed he renounced evolution and called it a fraud. He was also a preacher... do your research. Conservapedia.
@jrnh2010@jrnh2010 lol Conservapedia.. You DO know that statement about Darwin renouncing evolution on his deathbed is false, right? That's been debunked a lonnnnngggggg time ago. All you have to do is Google "Darwin renounced evolution" and you'll have your answers. This is a common false statement made by Christians. Stop being a moron and believing everything you hear.
@hondadrvr3 Not to mention, even if Darwin did recount on his death bed (which he didn't) that would have absolutely no bearing on whether or not a god exists, nor whether or not evolution is true. We do not hold these things to be true just because Darwin said so. We hold these things to be true because of evidence (or the lack of evidence).
What a bunch of horse poop he is spewing out of his big mouth.
elibeth121 1 month ago
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For an individual who claims to "love animals" you show a total disregard for your fellow humans.
See a psychiatrist.
tellnet 4 weeks ago
@tellnet Animals are a lot better behaved then people, they also show unconditional love, they are more loyal than any human, and are so much nicer because they do not talk back. They are sweet and loving. and they have no voice and when someone abuses them or hurts them that is where I come in. To shut those in jail who injure and hurt them.
elibeth121 3 weeks ago
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Pity you do not behave like your four-legged friends !
The world would be a better place ...
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tellnet 3 weeks ago
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elibeth121 3 weeks ago
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tellnet 3 weeks ago
That is the most idiotic statement ever. Matt has no clue, about how to raise good children. The bible says, raise your child up in faith and he will not depart from it. There is absolutely no harm, in raising your child to believe in God. Truly an ignorant man.
elibeth121 1 month ago
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it makes them gullible.
MrGaddafikiller 3 weeks ago
@MrGaddafikiller Nope makes them wise
elibeth121 3 weeks ago
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you have obviously been fed shit. and ilogical nonsence
MrGaddafikiller 3 weeks ago
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elibeth121 3 weeks ago
MrGaddafikiller 3 weeks ago
@MrGaddafikiller God is not evil.. No, we must learn not to imagine what God is like but rather we must learn to seek what the real God said about Himself. So lets look into the "real" God's public record, the Bible. In it God describes exactly what He wants us to know about Him.
The hollocaust was a true example of satan and evil. They misused their free will just like any person that sins. God is not evil he is only pure and good.
elibeth121 2 weeks ago
@elibeth121 I don't think the bible is God's word.
randomguy7890 1 day ago
@randomguy7890 I am sorry you do not believe in God's word.
elibeth121 21 hours ago
@elibeth121 I am sorry you believe that nonsense is God's word.
randomguy7890 21 hours ago
@elibeth121 Genocide, slavery, sacrifice, etc. I am glad that it probably isn't God's word, if God exists, God would be better than the god in that book.
randomguy7890 21 hours ago
@elibeth121 u said: There is absolutely no harm, in raising your child to believe in God." I want to agree, just like it is fine to allow them to believe in Santa until they reach a certain age, but Id say after they turn 5-7, you might start worrying if they still take Santa as 'gospel', if you will appreciate the pun. So I put to you, what is in your mind the significant difference between believing in God and believing in Santa? How would you qualify the difference? Kind regards from Earth :)
LackadaisicalE 2 weeks ago
@LackadaisicalE Many prefer more of a "saving Santa Claus" than a creator and a judge. People like to believe in a celestial being who has lots of indulgent benevolence
. The only god worth knowing is the real one, our creator, and He must be searched for, not envisioned or imagined. We must also realize that God is a real being and not a principle.Santa Claus is a good example of a principle we envision as a person.
elibeth121 2 weeks ago
Organized Religion is Man-Made whatever any radical, hippy, weirdo or fanatic may say. And hey, if anyone's giving you problems and harassing your beliefs be the bigger person by telling them to take their holy book and shove it up their holy ass
InfiniteHelfire 2 months ago
Children rebelling against their irrational parents religious/spiritual [ particularly JUDEO-CHRISTIAN] in the united states is worth researching by sociologists and socio-psychologists .. such trends are virtually absent in other countries Childeren follow their parents religion till death because these religions dont enforce on your personal lives .. for eg hinduism etc
nibus9 3 months ago
Haha, I love Matt's point at the end there! I want a bumper sticker on my car with that quote!
PirateOfTheInternet 4 months ago
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We are due for moving to a higher consciousness plane. The same way the suffering of gazelles killed by lions make the species stronger, the suffering of mankind will help us move to the next consciousness level. A greater good comes for the species. The next level is the rejection of greed, materialism and selfishness. Our current capitalist system need to collapse in order to achieve this. If you are not ready spiritually, you'll suffer. This is happening now, be ready. God Bless.
dejesusluisx 4 months ago
I have never seen anyone turn away from it as a result of killing their children via negligence.
I have seen a guy spread the word of "this is stupid" after having to have his freaking COLON removed after not taking his meds for Crohn's disease. So perhaps when it happens to them--they'll go "oh my god, I nearly died! I need to tell others that this is a bad idea!" but when it's just their kids...meh, they don't care so much.
NenonaFire 4 months ago
Religion kills! It's been this way for thousands of years! And they attack athiests over the lack of morality that would exist without God. WTF!!!!
FreeMindedAthiest 4 months ago
@FreeMindedAthiest religion kills who?
elibeth121 1 month ago
@elibeth121 "religion kills who?"
What an incredibly stupid question! You can be blind by choice or ignorant to the filth of religion. But you cannot deny that religion kills.
FreeMindedAthiest 1 month ago
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elibeth121 1 month ago
@elibeth121 I can't believe i'm responding to this! Telling people riddin with aids that contreception is wrong! Mother Teressa, if I have to say more about that bitch you need to look a little further into your religion! And on and oin!
FreeMindedAthiest 1 month ago
@FreeMindedAthiest Yes the church teaches that contraception is wrong, did I specifically go up to the a man ridden with aids that it was wrong ummmm no. Mother Theresa was the kindest, most loving, unselfish woman that ever existed.She went up to people with aids and leprosesy. She was gracious and loving.
elibeth121 1 month ago
@FreeMindedAthiest OH by the way Christianity has nothing to do with religion nor am I referred to as religious. That doesnt make you anything. Christianity is what I go by.
elibeth121 1 month ago
@elibeth121
Christianity is a monotheistic religion based on the life and teachings of Jesus Fucking Christ as presented in canonical gospels and other New Testament writings.
Living according to the "Christian Ethos" is, however, not necessarily religious.
You are apparently from another planet.
tellnet 4 weeks ago
@casablanca4381 Spam?
OpethIsTheBestBand 4 months ago
@OpethIsTheBestBand
Yep! It's spam Duech Bag!
FreeMindedAthiest 4 months ago
I hope the parents get diabetes to see how long it would take for them to hold out before calling a doctor. This way if they do get treatment, not only would they be deemed bad parents but also hypocrites. On the other hand if they refuse treatment, they will at least die of a show and painful death and know what they put their daughter through.
mattnashisgay 5 months ago
The parents shouldve gotten medical help. God pities such idiocy.
ProtestantsRUs 5 months ago
@ProtestantsRUs As far as those people were concerned they were doing what God wanted.
GypsyLeah 5 months ago
F.O.O.L.
virtualguitarist 5 months ago
Im actually friends with an atheist . I am curious to understand her views and her perspective and she is mtually curious about christianity and esp why there are so many differnt christian groups.
I'm rambling on here a tad but the point is I can learn to have mutual respect and friendship with her and she has the same for me. atheists an d christians esp can be friends.. it just takes someone to take the first move
casablanca4381 5 months ago
@casablanca4381 lol there are more athiests then u know, most dont say they are to fit in, but literally 15% of religious ppl dont really believe in god.
taj561 4 months ago
my point is whatever the mainstream religious affiliations are in a country. you have to choices learn to deal with it.... or in the case of the mormons, they did start their own little subculture in Utah.I think majority of religous and non religious groups adjust though
casablanca4381 5 months ago
my theory is this if your in a hindu culture , you will just have to learn to deal with that and respect that. You live in atheistic ulture learn to deal with and respect that. Christian culture same thing as with a Jewish culture and so forth..
casablanca4381 5 months ago
I have a terrific idea people should just lay off eachother and stop bickering. Everyone is different that is something that most christians, atheists, muslims, jews buddhist hindus just need to learn to deal with that. instead of bashing each other. There will always be variety of people in life and that i assure everyone that won't change
casablanca4381 5 months ago
what i have noticed people tend to make generalizations about each other as a group. That is RARELY an accurate view . Experience and misunderstanding tend to perpetuate this view.Are all Italians in th Mafia?,All the French Smelly?,Are all the english uptigh?t, are all christians stupid/, are all muslim terroris?
I give you all a resounding NO, none of these stereotypes accurate. I'm guessing most decent people would agree with me.
casablanca4381 5 months ago
Everyone who believes in a religious affiliation is an idiot? That's interesting take so your christian cardioligist is an idiot, your luthern attorney is an idiot, your episcopalian stock broker is an idiot, jewish politician is an idiot.... mmm I don't think that's accurate. I think what you are trying to say you think what they think is stupid...obviously they are not necessarily stupid..
casablanca4381 5 months ago
@ixcaliber maybe one should learn About religion, but not give any religious label to the child
GodOfUnbelief 5 months ago
For those interested, the parents Matt talks about got a grand total of six months in county jail (30 days a year over six years) for causing their daughter's death. At no point during the trail did they say that they regretted 'trusting in their Lord for their daughter's health'. Google 'Dale and Leilani Neumann sentence' for further details. Truly disgraceful. That poor kid.
cagedsexybeast 6 months ago in playlist The Atheist Experience
@cagedsexybeast I say they should have been given diabetes and then not have treatment.
HimesInu 5 months ago
Christians can be so lazy. So many of them carry the "just trust in the lord" attitude or "it's god's plan." So fuckin sick of this shit.
clintonskakun 6 months ago
@clintonskakun not just christians, the religious people in general.
Russiaizfun 5 months ago
I disagree completley with Matt here. Withholding another persons care should not constitute criminal neglect. Imagine the medical establishment was wrong on a health issue and not getting care was the better option for you to make. I do not like having this opinion but the right of folks to deny care to themsleves and their children is important regardless of how crazy the reason is.
Redrum2381 6 months ago
@Redrum2381 That isn't what he is talking about. He is saying that if there is a proven treatment that works that could have saved the persons life and you don't give them that treatment then it is a crime. What you are talking about is experimental treatments and as someone that has used one of those to get cured of an illness, that's on the person that signs up for it.
xynth101088 6 months ago
@xynth101088 you still dont change the fundimentals of this problem. Who is to make medical choices. Would you rather the state make the choice and hold you criminaly responsible if you dont agree, or leave it up to the parents until the child is of age. I think leaving it up to the parents is dangerious in some cases but think the risk it better than living in a world where our government can dictate what kind of medical care you must give your children.
Redrum2381 6 months ago
@Redrum2381 It should be a law like any other. Just like you are supposed to give your child various vaccines before they go to school, you should give your child a medical treatment if they are sick. I don't see what's so hard about this? It's not like anyone is saying to drug up your kid with whatever to see what happens. The point is to simply give your child treatment if there is a proven treatment to give.
xynth101088 6 months ago
@xynth101088 Ok, but the deviding line with vaccines is not being vacinated puts other kids at risk. Like any good law protect people from other people, not themselves. But it seems you shall never understand how dangerious it is to give the government this kind of athorty. Just like I dont need a sky daddy to help me with my morlals I do not need the government to tell me what kinds of medical treatment to give my kids. I can think for myself.
Redrum2381 6 months ago
@Redrum2381 You might, but I'm not talking about mentality stable people. I'm talking about these nuts that don't get their children the care they need for whatever reason. At any rate the government already has the authority to do this and other laws cover it some what. I just think it should be a little more strict so kids don't killed because they parents didn't give them a flu shot or some other BS.
xynth101088 6 months ago
@xynth101088 Speak the truth my brotha! Amen to you sir.. =P
TheFluffyWaffle 5 months ago in playlist The Atheist Experience
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softsignals 6 months ago
im glad I grew up in Europe, much less fundies here!
eleminatus 6 months ago
@thatamazinggeek
No, humans are merely lazy and credulous. Thinking is something that requires a lot of effort, time and energy, and humans naturally like to take shortcuts by looking for easy answers to life's questions and letting authority figures do their thinking for them.
logik316 6 months ago
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@thatamazinggeek You can't honestly be stupid enough to believe that.
ixcaliber 6 months ago
@thatamazinggeek People are NOT religious by nature, you do not believe in god when you are born. It is only when people shove false information down your throats before your brain is developed enough to sift through fact and fiction, that you actually believe in some form of god. It is literally brainwashing, and I personally believe it should be a crime to teach your kids about religion, you are pretty much turning them into gullible idiots.
ixcaliber 6 months ago 35
@ixcaliber Not if you teach them about all religions and science on the same time. Religions like Buddhism or Taoism may be very good for society so you shouldn't just brand them all as dangerous. Though I agree with alot of what you say.
warmsteel 3 months ago
@warmsteel I'll agree with that. I live in a Christian based society, so all I see is the idiotic religions. But I can respect buddhism.
ixcaliber 3 months ago 7
@ixcaliber Yeah. I'm researching Taoism right now. Actually, this sounds wierd, but Taoism, as I understand it (though I'm far from an expert) an atheist religion. :p
The taoist doesn't belive in any God that created the Universe (Multiverse?) The Tao simply means "the way" and is for the Taoist the ultimate reality that exists in between poles, anywhere and everywhere. If you want to find out what it's about I recomend the great Alan Watts. Take care.
warmsteel 3 months ago
@warmsteel thats stupid and just as faith-based as any religion. you are a weak-minded fool
trufuknplaya 3 months ago
@trufuknplaya What? I mean reall? What? Do you know me? What have I said? What's stupid and faith based? Why I am I weak minded? Why am I a fool?
warmsteel 3 months ago
@warmsteel taoism is faith-based. YOU FOOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU FOOL YOU FOOL YOU FOOL!!!!
trufuknplaya 3 months ago
@trufuknplaya Troll.
warmsteel 3 months ago
@warmsteel try to freak out more next time somebody pwns u
trufuknplaya 3 months ago
@ixcaliber Well said.
MagisterPridgen 3 months ago
@ixcaliber I agree with most of what you said, but I differ with the point that it's a matter of age and of "sift(ing) through fact and fiction." Regardless of the person's age, I tend to accept Jung's notion of the archetypes, much of my support coming from personal experience and the findings of Joseph Campbell. The desire to anthropromorphize your surroundings seems to be a strong inherent trait for humans. But projections are not facts, nor is a blatant projection like Christianity.
Ematched 3 months ago
@ixcaliber Amen to that [joke intended]!
kalajel 2 months ago
If only ShockofGod would just go and return back to Atheism.
madcat789 7 months ago
@madcat789 Why? He's doing a perfectly good job making Christians look like idiots. If he comes back to Atheism he may start making atheist look like idiots.
AWEF321 6 months ago
@AWEF321
Hmmm good point.
madcat789 6 months ago
Everyone needs to understand that the welfare of Humanity, especially children, should be a higher priority than their religious faith.
Vexille1983 7 months ago
I never had that problem as a kid... I guess my mom likes me :)
ExperimentLife 8 months ago
I agree that just being a parent does not give you the right to put your children in harms way. We must be reasonable in our beleifs why would any one worship some thing that does not care about its welfare? That punishes it for being the imperfect being it created I dont get it.
cynt123able 8 months ago
If your a beliver surely you could argue that modern medicine is gods wish. God wishes your kids to live longer.
Its a bit like the the guy stuck on the roof joke.
Mankysteve 9 months ago
I really wish theists would smarten up. This may be an assumption, but if everyone was athiest we would have a much safer, and more stable civilization.
ixcaliber 9 months ago 32
@ixcaliber I agree to an extend. As in, I'm not sure about safer and more stable. But our society would definitely be -better- than what it is now. Look at prisons. There's a far higher percentage of theists in there than atheists, even when taking into account the amount of theists and atheists in prison. Just that statistic would already say that atheists commit less crimes. That, or that people committing crimes are also more likely to believe in a god.
Sanquinity 7 months ago
@Sanquinity Well its probably because a lot of theists think that what they are doing is moral, according to them there is no problem with slavery and/or rape. Not to mention they have very little brain cells capable of independent judgement.
ixcaliber 7 months ago
@ixcaliber mmm. i think that world would be so boring if everyone was the same. There is no variety!
casablanca4381 5 months ago
@ixcaliber variety really is the spice of life. no joke. I went to school where it was drone like everyone was like everyone else. well we still had problems but it was really boring
casablanca4381 5 months ago
@ixcaliber i agree though , i'm a christian . and i agree that just plain stupid to not take care of your infirmed child or vaccinate them, it's irresponisble as whole, and possibly could endanger others in society.Really God gives us common sense to use. Christian scientist and JW really are resistant to madern medicine ...sad.
casablanca4381 5 months ago
@ixcaliber look at my contrie. sweden... its alot safer here then in oter contries that are more religous... upp to 85% of the swedes are atheists.
fattigbonddrang 4 months ago
@fattigbonddrang That is one reason I love Sweden
ixcaliber 4 months ago
@ixcaliber :) thanks... i am proud to say that i am a atheist. :)
fattigbonddrang 4 months ago
@fattigbonddrang You lucky bastard! I hate living here in ignorant and religious America, I was actually kicked out of my gym class because i deny the existence of any God(s) and that i accept ''The Theory of Evolution''.
There is nothing wrong with expressing what you think. I hate religion and i hate religious America, Wish i could live in Northern Sweden.. :(
MarcusEFN 3 months ago
@MarcusEFN if a student was kicked out fromschool due of lack of religion or of a sertin political weivpoint here it would be war. the school are not alowed to kick out student becouse of that. but to live in north of sweden. in winter it use to be -25-35 degrees C. with ALOT of snow. like canada. in south of sweden its harldy any snow and around freezing i think. in the middle where i lives its usaly is 1-2 dm of snow at winter. but the two last winters it was like in north even here in midle.
fattigbonddrang 3 months ago
@fattigbonddrang The reason i prefer Northern Sweden is because i love the winter, When i did tell them that i was not religious, We got into an ARGUMENT! Therefore, the teacher did not want me in her class for the day. And by Northern Sweden i don't mean (the really cold parts), I'm only talkin about the parts of Northern Sweden where it might reach -15- 25 degrees C.
MarcusEFN 3 months ago
@MarcusEFN that cold it happens often here in the middle of sweden. i dont know how old you are but why not study at one of our universeties here in sweden? we many good universeties here. or work here?
fattigbonddrang 3 months ago
@fattigbonddrang I'm currently 15, though working in Sweden might be a good idéa. My biggest interest is Biology. Thanks for the suggestion. I'll look into it :)
MarcusEFN 3 months ago
@MarcusEFN okej do it! a tip: read about carl von linné. a scientist that began classify a vast amount of plants... a huge name in biology. one universety here in sweden are named after him just as the plant Linnaea borealis.
fattigbonddrang 3 months ago
@fattigbonddrang I'll be sure to do that, thanks a bunch!
MarcusEFN 3 months ago
@MarcusEFN you are welcome!!!
fattigbonddrang 3 months ago
Evolution is real. Just look at dogs and the many types. Were these existing 1000 years ago?
iliveon 10 months ago
Well said Matt! ★★★★★
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Katalyzt 10 months ago
Do you honestly believe that the children which are victims of their parents beliefs do not diserve the consequences of them but at the same time insist that their parents which are indeed also the victims of their own parents beliefs do diserve the consequences of them? You my sir have double standards. You are clearly under the influence of prejudical feelings and should seriously under go some self reflection.
xx1Alex1xx 10 months ago
@xx1Alex1xx I personally use meditation while undergoing self reflection. Christians use prayer.
xx1Alex1xx 10 months ago
What penalty did the parents get?
ManofManyPasswords 11 months ago
The lesson that I take from this story is that you can't rely on God to solve all your problems and must do for yourself. This is a hard learned lesson for many christians. Be firm in your faith but not stupid. I am reminded of a story about a young college cheerleader who was partially paralysed after getting a shot for swine or bird flu. My point is that science can be as flawed as religious beliefs and can sometimes do more damage than good.
StarPalidanKenobi 11 months ago
@StarPalidanKenobi your comment proves that religious people are complete biggots that always try to rationalize.
JohnF30Music 11 months ago
@StarPalidanKenobi
I facepalmed so hard...
tylerjac69 11 months ago
@StarPalidanKenobi Your right, science can be as flawed as religious beliefs. But overall science has been correct and offered a millionfold more predictions and evidence proved solutions to our ever complex universe and existence. Why do you think like expectancy has been exponentially increasing? Its definelty not the result of societies growing faith in the supernatural (and action upon it). Its the result of societies increased use of scientific understandings in the every day world.
xx1Alex1xx 10 months ago
@xx1Alex1xx Well I'm going to love to tell you this but the 2nd sentence in your last post is wrong. I say that because ancients who had faith in what "God" said, washed themselves in running water, didn't try to bleed out dieases. Now not saying they were the only ones who did that but just pointing out the facts.
Duobitdezo 10 months ago
@xx1Alex1xx No it can't. To be considered science or fact. It has to be proven, with tests and evidence.
ItsJackDolan 7 months ago
i hope the parents got a huge wake up call with the death of they're child, if nothing else That.. it would be shameful if they continued to think what they did was right.
wetdream09 11 months ago
well she may have died but she went to heaven!i wish my parents did that long time ago.
boruteferra 11 months ago
@boruteferra You are an idiot.
ixcaliber 9 months ago
@ixcaliber only idiots call others idiots
boruteferra 9 months ago
@boruteferra Well if I am following your logic, that mean you are an idiot.
ixcaliber 9 months ago
@ixcaliber everyone can be idiot sometimes
boruteferra 9 months ago
@boruteferra You should re-read your comments, because each time you post you just embarrass yourself.
ixcaliber 9 months ago
@ixcaliber naa.i am not embarrassed.i can care less wat ppl think about me.
boruteferra 9 months ago
INSULIN DOES NOT CURE- WILL U TAKE TO COURT THE WORLDS SCHOOLS WHO SERVE DIABETIC - CAUSING BREAKFASTS TO THE WORLDS CHILDREM?-THATS MASS MURDER OF CHILDREN- THATS THE PLACE TO PUT YOUR ENERGY- HAVE YOU STUDIED THE VACCINE REACTION? MANY WHO SUFFERED medical procedures deaths and brain damage are not religious-you need to calm down-lol
lmollot 11 months ago
Prayor is for concentrated plea for something to change, 'with faith people pray for physical things to take place. When these prayors are not answered the prayer claim was not ment to be because God had other plans.
Prayor and Religion is more of a plecebo to comfort people in give them hope and "faith" that all things are possible though God. BUT we must meet him half way. Therefore they should of taken their daughter to the Doc for treatment and then pray that she will recover.
Angloartist 11 months ago
back in the old days, kids would have other kids around(or animals), they would learn how to feed and clean a child by the time they were old enough to have their own, and have family to help them out. now, because of people moving from small towns, away from family, not having pets capable of reproduction, there's not a connect. parenting classes should probably be mandatory now...
felderup 11 months ago
oh god... from the thumbnail for this video, it looks like Matt is wearing a butterscotch colored suit with white ruffles down the front.
PullyElbow27 1 year ago
95 people are, or support, the killing of kids. Lovely.
Defiant47 1 year ago
@Defiant47 what fucking trite douchebags!
gravekeepersven 1 year ago
child abuse and murder. nothing less. when muslim parents kill their daughters, christians throw a fit. why not throw a fit when christian parents kill their children?
2nDoppelganger 1 year ago
the difference between the vaccination and the diabetic case is summed up in the potential for collateral damage. I feel for the diabetic girl, but there are bigger fish to fry. Like exploring how many young girls die from international sanctions based on purely political reason, but that's a different subject... this just seems exaggerated while the death toll from sanctions are largely left unexplored by the general public.... sad
baihbalm 1 year ago
I've only had a bare minimum of vaccines, and I'm fine. You know that swine flu you all lost it over? I was among you, laughing my ass off as you took the shot and got sick anyway. Me? Not even a sniffle. I never get the flu.
So much for your little theory.
CrudOMatic 1 year ago
@CrudOMatic You remember smallpox?
bibhuna 1 year ago
@bibhuna Yeah. I also remember the decision to spread it among the native Americans. Point? Europeans were more immune to it than the natives. Sorry for those honkey's with weak immune systems.
CrudOMatic 1 year ago
@CrudOMatic Sorry what? Anyway, the point is... smallpox isn't here any more. It's no longer naturally occurring. Why. Vaccination. The eradication of smallpox vindicates vaccination, proving that it works and can save millions of lives.
bibhuna 1 year ago
@bibhuna You remember Polio? How it was so awesome to taint Polio vaccines with Hepatitis? Like we are guinea pigs. Thanks for the Hepatitis epidemic, assholes.
CrudOMatic 1 year ago
@CrudOMatic These contamination scares have either been refuted or proven to be correlations, not causal relationships. In any case, the polio vaccine has also saved millions of lives. In fact, polio is getting close to being eradicated too. Unfortunately, it's anti-vaccine pseudo-scientists like you that have stopped it from happening already. Do you even know how a vaccine works? And what are your main objections to vaccines?
bibhuna 1 year ago
@bibhuna The big contamination scare was over SV40, which was cancer, not hepatitis. In 1998, the study published as 'Contamination of Poliovirus Vaccines With Simian Virus 40 (1955-1963) and Subsequent Cancer Rates' concluded that exposure to SV40-contaminated poliovirus vaccine was not associated with significantly increased rates of cancer. Also, the most common vaccine is OPV, not the IPV that was thought to be infected. And what to you mean by treating us like guinea pigs?
bibhuna 1 year ago
@bibhuna Refuted by whom? Oh yeah, by people who want you to take their garbage. Believe the liar when they "refute" claims against them. Like flu vaccines in Europe tainted with live Bird flu. Killed the homeless they tested it on. Just like Aspirin tainted with HIV. Hearing about shit like that makes me trust doctors/corps even less - I don't even think I would go to the hospital for a broken leg anymore.
I don't need the crap, and I'm not going to let sheep like you force it on me, either.
CrudOMatic 11 months ago
@CrudOMatic No, refuted by independent investigators, using controlled studies and evidence based science. Vaccines have a track record in saving millions of lives. Seriously, where do you get your crap from? The people who make this bullshit about vaccines up are generally the biased ones, just look up Andrew Wakeman, the guy who falsely linked autism to MMR. He only did because he was getting paid up by some dodgy lawyers, and was also making his own vaccines.
bibhuna 11 months ago
@bibhuna ...and vaccines have killed 10's of thousands. Who are you to dictate that everyone should be vaccinated, then when people's children die - WHOOPS! sorry! Here is an appointment for your next vaccination!
EAT IT!
CrudOMatic 11 months ago
@CrudOMatic You mean that, because a tiny minority of people get fatal side effects from vaccines, they should all be banned? Every drug has side effects, you can die from paracetamol. Shall we ban those too?
bibhuna 11 months ago
@CrudOMatic People like you disgust me. The fact that you even have the opportunity to 'escape' from vaccines shows how privileged you are. When people around the world are dying of horrible diseases because they cannot access vaccines, how dare you dismiss vaccines as rubbish when you are one of the lucky few that can access them? Quite frankly, I hope you don't go to the hospital. Hopefully you will die before you have children, so you can't inflict your ludicrous views upon them.
bibhuna 11 months ago
@bibhuna calm down, gee... consider what is in vaccines, consider how many a person would get in their life... people can say 'well, i had all my vaccines, and i'm perfectly fine' but they're older, and from a time when 5-6 vaccines were given, maybe upward of 10, now the cdc schedule is near 40(for kids). anybody that says they're all bad, is an idiot, anyone that says they're all good, also an idiot. many people don't realise how they can cause trouble, till their child reacts badly to one.
felderup 11 months ago
@felderup I agree with you mate. However, seeing as I was born in India but now live in England, I've seen some of the discrepancies between health services firsthand. It really pisses me off when people squander what others are dying for.
bibhuna 11 months ago
@bibhuna ...and? just because I have the privilege to escape it, then I should be subject TO it? Also, nice blame shifting - oh people can't get it, but you can! You have no right to object to it! FUCK ON!
BTW, you don't ever have to worry about me having children, wink wink.
CrudOMatic 11 months ago
@CrudOMatic What blame-shifting? I'm not blaming you of anything. You have accused vaccines of not working. When I mentioned smallpox, you blame-shifted to vaccines being contaminated. When I showed you the refutations, you blame-shifted to the fact that vaccines (like all life-saving drugs) have side-effects. Don't be a hypocrite.
bibhuna 11 months ago
@bibhuna I thought polio was eradicated? So much for the propaganda...
CrudOMatic 11 months ago
@CrudOMatic No, it isn't eradicated. No one ever claimed that. What has been claimed is that it has almost been eradicated. Unfortunately, anti-vaccination types like you have routinely hindered anti-polio campaigns in polio-endemic countries.
bibhuna 11 months ago
@CrudOMatic - Only small children with very weak immune systems got the swine flu, so I don't know why the media blew it out of proportion so much =\
Critic863 1 year ago
this video was podted 2 years ago so i assume the trial has already concluded. were thee stupid parents convicted?
SilverDragon1195 1 year ago
if you can get laid, you can be a parent. this fact sucks. people need to analyze their gene pool before reproducing. but, NOOOOOOooooo, ~everyone has the right to reproduce~
DrrriftIt 1 year ago
But Matt, washing dishes and putting food in the fridge aren't activities made up by scientists (like medicating people is), and therefore God doesn't have a problem with those things. God expects us to do usual tasks, as long as science has nothing to do with it. If a child dies because we didn't give her medicine, the obvious answer is that it was God's will. Who are you to question that?
instereovideos 1 year ago
@instereovideos GOD doesnt have a problem because GOD is imaginary.
splicedenergy 1 year ago
@splicedenergy I guess you couldn't get the tone of my comment. Good luck with that wit you've got there : )
instereovideos 1 year ago
@instereovideos You do realize that a theist would make such a comment right? They do so constantly. Look at edwardcurrent or theologikos and see the comments there, at that point then I concede.
splicedenergy 1 year ago
@splicedenergy Well, I do realize that they would make comments that are similar, but I hope it's clear to any clever person that mine was insincere.
instereovideos 1 year ago
@instereovideos I made no claim I was clever. I said I concede. Its not nessessary to be an ass.
splicedenergy 1 year ago
@splicedenergy Sometimes things don't have to be necessary to be worth it.
instereovideos 1 year ago
If the re is any God, i would imagine him just playing with us;) he made us like this, so if he exists he also planned the globar weather change and finally we all die, he starts all over...
Now that would be if God would exist.
TheRoopeKonna 1 year ago
What makes no sense is if god wants them to live or die, isn't he more powerful than medicine or vaccines? Do they go around not wearing seatbelts or helmets or any kind of safety measure because god is too powerless to overcome it? There is absolutely no difference between using medicine to protect you or not using play dough to attach your roof to your house.
AEgamesFtw 1 year ago
jesus is a loophole.it doesnt make sense because jesus sacraficed himself to himself.what kind of sacrafice is this when he knew he's going to be immortal anyway.not only that but you only made god sound like a murdering cunt and giving religious people an excuse to murder children.so dead children is all part of god's plan.what plan is this?the plan where parents neglect their children's helath and make them suffer more!
NOVAGIRL666 1 year ago
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@chica0616 Wow you need your head and logic checked out. Just what makes you even think there is a heaven for her to be in right now? There is not the slightest bit of evidence to believe that heaven exist or any form of after life. You are just to afraid to think of a life that a heaven does not exist. Guess what chica you have no real reason to believe once your body is rotting in the ground that you will ever see loved ones again or any god. Sorry thats reality chica. Welcome to it.
party489 1 year ago
God also says act with common sense, and he says obey the laws of the land, this means all laws. Matt you blaming God for not curing sickness is foolishness, God didn't say not to try to treat your kids for sickness. The truth is that the little girl probably is in heaven right now. you Matt are a selfish idiot to want to keep her here if God wanted her with him. Talk to someone who doesn't have any sense and who doesn't have an answer for all of your nonsense.
chica0616 1 year ago
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abx547 1 year ago
@abx547 hey tard, we created that by sinning. not God. plus God loves you and me more then anyone
DUDRTHEPANDA 1 year ago
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abx547 1 year ago
@abx547 The punishment for sin is Death. Jesus died for us so we did not have to go to hell with the devil. WOULD YOU HAVE SOME MANNERS TO THE THE GOD OF THE UNIVERSE THAT COULD ZAP YOU IN A SECOND! God has a plan for every life. Maybe that child touched some ones heart and convicted them. Believing in evolution is takes a lot more faith than believing that God created us. You cant answer basic quastions
DUDRTHEPANDA 1 year ago
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abx547 1 year ago
@abx547 I find evolving from magical mud a lot more illogical then believing in a creator! you peopl,e cant even prove anything against God. You dont debate because you cant win.
DUDRTHEPANDA 1 year ago
@DUDRTHEPANDA Ahem. Pffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffttt
Excaliburproxy 1 year ago
@DUDRTHEPANDA We win all the time. Magical mud? What? Ignorant theist, go read a book. You do know how to read.
splicedenergy 1 year ago
@DUDRTHEPANDA i will happily debate with you.
avalsonline2 1 year ago
@DUDRTHEPANDA
So you say that only the weak-minded believe in God? I can live a happy life without any Gods, get kids, teach them to christianity, etc. etc...
TheRoopeKonna 1 year ago
@TheRoopeKonna I'm sorry for insulting but - are you stupid? You do realise that Darwin had MAJOR doubts about evolution right? At his deathbed he renounced evolution and called it a fraud. He was also a preacher... do your research. Conservapedia.
jrnh2010 1 year ago
@jrnh2010
Nice job, nerd. You spend hours and hours to search for month-old comments to pick on.
I don't fucking give a shit if darwin said that, the majority still believes to it. Go suck your god's dick. I dont give a shit.
TheRoopeKonna 1 year ago
@jrnh2010 Conservapedia is unreliable on all accounts.
tony38727 1 year ago
@jrnh2010 @jrnh2010 lol Conservapedia.. You DO know that statement about Darwin renouncing evolution on his deathbed is false, right? That's been debunked a lonnnnngggggg time ago. All you have to do is Google "Darwin renounced evolution" and you'll have your answers. This is a common false statement made by Christians. Stop being a moron and believing everything you hear.
hondadrvr3 11 months ago
@hondadrvr3 Not to mention, even if Darwin did recount on his death bed (which he didn't) that would have absolutely no bearing on whether or not a god exists, nor whether or not evolution is true. We do not hold these things to be true just because Darwin said so. We hold these things to be true because of evidence (or the lack of evidence).
Nerd042 10 months ago
@Nerd042 Precisely. Well said, man.
hondadrvr3 10 months ago