For all you sh*t talking Che, you will never amount to anything Che has ever done, this is a very humanitarian person, his goal was to rid the world of the backward American ideologies and their materialistic and imperialistic ideals which produce a dolla $ign for anything you imagine...life itself.. Che was a legend, a person like that is born once in a century.
"I knew that when the great guiding spirit cleaves humanity into two antagonistic halves, I will be with the people. ”
stalin and mao were not communists. even cuba is not truely communist country, no matter how much they wanted it to be - which is why it's so sad. every failed example of communism we have seen has either been a complete lie (stalin's state-capitalism ...) or corrupted by lack of resources and monopolies of power (usa trade blockade on cuba). fucking hell, it's so simple and yet so many people brush it off as totalitarianism. read!!!!
It must be so easy being a communist, as you never have to engage with reality, living as you do in a world of good intentions corrupted by false consciousness and imperialism. Stalinism was in place before 1924 as Lenin and Trotsky had established the Cheka, the Gulag system etc. The Red Terror preceeded the Great Purge. Trotsky crushed the Krondstadt rebellion. Communism was tried and it failed everywhere because it contradicts human nature.
research the dictatorship of the proletariat. fidel's has never been able to end. you may think that he is evil and corrupted by power, but personally i think that if che's global revolution had been successful, the dictatorship would have withered away everywhere eventually. there are not many men who could achieve what fidel and che did. maybe you hate 'communism', but remember that real communism has never actually been allowed to flourish. i believe fidel would like it to, however.
of course there are things about cuba's current political system that are awful for some people who live there. lack of freedom, poverty etc... although it's ridiculous to say that americans are any more free than cubans. yes, you have freedom of speech, but no onewe listens to you let alone cares. yes, there is 'equality of opportunity' but what the fuck does that mean if you're poor? the usa is violently anti-socialist (wrongly), and that is evident in the brainwashing of it's people.
Americans are allowed to own private property. They can criticise their government without fear of reprisal. They can own a car. They can elect their leaders. They can live in a free country without swimming across shark infested waters to do so. They can work in the private sector rather than be a parasite of the state.
THIS is what che was aiming to do. to give all children a moral, political, philosophical, psychological education, so that every human being was able to understand themselves and the best way for our species to exist. capitalism will not go down without a fight - we see that every day, and it is illustrated in the assassination of che himself. this is why castro prepared his revolutionaries for a fight - because he knew men like batista and knew that otherwise, cuba would continue to suffer.
to anyone who has commented arguing that che guevara was a murderer/racist/sadist, please look at communism in context. if you read marx's true ideals, you will see that all it means in true equality: full equality. look at bakunin's ideals (anarcho-communism) of the anarchist existence that COULD be achieved if capitalism were overthrown and, in the words of rousseau, everyone was allowed to achieve 'perfect enlightenment'... through education...
Che Guevera was a lot like Trotsky. He was admired by leftists because he opposed the 'revisionism' of leftist leaders. Both were murdering monsters i.e. Krondstadt in 1921. Guevera didn't believe in democracy, he opposed free elections and wanted a monopoly of power for the Left, even if the population disagreed with him. You seriously need to educate yourself if you believe Che Guevera was a perfect creature, because you're an apologist for mass murder.
And as for the second quote about Mexicans, can you tell me where the origin is from? I can only find it on republican and liberal websites that quote it in their articles, but none have citations. I only saw one possible citation to a book and it's by a guy that says he spoke to an eyewitness that heard Ernesto say that (in other words, there's no proof...). If you could find the origin, I'd be really interested.
@MrBloograss Those lines were written when he was a youth on his motorcycle trip, first time encountering black people in Venezuela. He later said he was a changed man by the end of the trip. How could he be racist to blacks when he fought in Africa with an all black army against white South African mercenaries of Apartheid? I've said stupid things that I now regret, except luckily I'm not famous nor will I ever be, and my thoughts will never be published to the public...
“To send men to the firing squad, judicial proof is unnecessary. These procedures are an archaic bourgeois detail … This is a revolution. And a revolutionary must become a cold killing machine motivated by pure hate.” Guevara
“If the nuclear missiles had remained (in Cuba), we would have fired them against the heart of the US, including New York City. The victory of socialism is well worth millions of atomic victims.” Guevara
To those ignorant assholes out there who want to talk shit: Have you ever heard of Juan Almeida Bosque? He was one of the key figures in the Cuban revolution, a very dear friend of Guevara's and he was BLACK. After the revolution he became a key figure in the state affairs. This was while The US still had Afro-Americans trying to get equal rights for themselves.Also if Che was a racist, why did he fight and risk his life in Congo? He fought for the freedom of the locals who were being oppressed.
@ScarletSnake YES I HEARD ABOUT THAT CRIMINAL NEGRO. NEGRO LIKE AGHOSTINO NETO, OR SEKUE TURET. FOLLOWED OF THE CASTRO'S DICTATORSHIP. DID YOU KNOW THAT CHE KILL WHOLE LOT OF NEGROS IN AFRIKA ,SO CASTRO IN ANGOLA.
Who was he supposed to kill in Congo? Would you be pleased if he found Latin Americans in Africa and killed them instead? You're missing the point here, the people who were on his side could be black, white, hispanic, heck even asian (look up the sino-soviet split). When their ideology counters yours and you want a revolution, and they wont give in peacefully, you shoot, you kill. What, are these concepts new to you or just hard to grasp? By the way, ever heard of caps lock?
The U.S. reminds me of that bitchy popular girl....she's always complaining and always has to make everything that's going on around her, be about her. I think Che was a great man. The difference between him and the U.S. is the U.S. does it for it's own gains, and money. Wheres Che did it, trying to help and improve those who didn't stand a chance or had to eek their ways through life. Not saying it would have worked, but at least he had the balls to take a stand.
@whysoserious89 And what English speaking country are you from sport? Seems to me, if it wasn't for the good ol' USA, blokes like you would now be speaking German. You'd be a little "serious" if you had every right removed by your government. That is all Castro and Che could ever offer.
@ryanrful I'm from the U.S.....and before too long, our country is going to be on that track anyway. But besides that, I am German =].....and I said Che was a good man because he wasn't doing it for financial gain like our country does. And because he took a stand in what he believed in, to help others. Where here if you attempted anything like that, without guns; you would automatically be marked a Commie or a terrorist. Those have become words for an excuse for someone who tries to stand up.
@whysoserious89 I appreciate your response, You sound like you have a good head on your shoulders. We have our problems in the U.S., in the past and even now, we have supported policies that were not the most appropriate; however, when you put it in the context of what other countries have done, you begin to understand. We live in a free society and if we work hard we improve our lot as we contribute to society. Communism suffocates you, it takes away all your rights and turns you into a slave.
Real nice Benicio. Now know this, if people like Guevara ran the world you would not be permitted to make millions on your films; you would not be able to own more than one house and a car, all other property would be expropriated by the government. Free enterprise would be gone, so you would have a rations card, one pair of pants and shoes a year and little else. Its easy to be logical when dealing with other people's pain. Guevara murdered thousands of innocent Cubans. Film that truth idiot.
@ryanrful Our U.S. government, "The Land of the Free" is practically doing EACH ONE OF THOSE things to us anyway....And how many innocent people has our country killed? Not trying to start a Youtube debate, just stating a fact.
@whysoserious89 lol. that is not an excuse pal. move to my country cuba. im gonna give u a week until u start crying to go back to the US. che guevara was a terrorist piece of shit.
@yandykun And MY country, hasn't done any terrorist acts towards other countries at all.....Right? lol YEAAAAA. Our government is a lame ass cover up of saying the Pledge of Allegiance and saying "In God We Trust"
@whysoserious89 why is everyone comparing ?how old are you man ? you are very ignorant u know, no ofense really. if you dont like how america do thing, why dont u move to NK >?or cuba ?there you can feel what these so called heroes have done to my country.if the US have done terrorist attacks, that doesnt excuse others to murder innocent people because this is not a competition. i agree the US Gov is fucked up, but do you seriously want to move to my country ?come on. u wont last 3 hours.
@yandykun 21...and ignorant, because i'm stating my opinion? and i think you bitching would pressure me to move back before communism would. and why don't you take the tampax out of your asshole, hop on a fuck banana boat, and float your ass up here, if you're so concerned about Fidel and Raul. And you're right, it's not a competition nor did i say it was. Your the one that's making it a competition, by the comparisons between our countries.
@whysoserious89 fuck that shit. who am i talking to ?you cant even write well your own language. why do you have to offend me ?did my comment shake you a little bit ?get another hobby pal. this shit doesnt suit you. go live in cuba and then tell me how you like it, but dont go as a tourist, go live there as a cuban. In Cuba, you will feel what these murderers did to my country: destroyed and frozen in time.
@yandykun Well maybe I had a type-o...but looky here Hooked on Phonics: Cuban Edition: "You can't even write well your own language"...And that's cleared up. Moving on. Me offend you? You offended me when I never once said I agreed with the executions, or any of that shit. No, it's you calling me ignorant, and then hearing the rambling of Cuba this Cuba that. You're almost like a Fidel speech, Cuba this and Cuba that.
@yandykun because the US is in the making of a dictatorship. I'm a MARXIST, not a pro-castro, NOT a Kim Jung....I admire Che for standing up for what he believed in...I believe in equality for everyone. Hitler and Che in my eyes, have some similarities. People look down on them, granted...but it's the GOOD they could have caused. and I'm sure, "your country", if you're even from cuba, would be a HELL of a lot better with batitsta in charge still. Agree, or disagree?
@whysoserious89 we were better with batista.well that was what the old cuban people said, but he was a piece of shit too.everyone who is a dictator is a piece of shit. look at egypt. that country is now free. do you know what freedom is ?of course not. because you have to live in both system and then give an opinion about it. US is making a dicatorship ?really ?lol, americans wont buy that crap. this is different. why do you think people own firearms for ?please. just let them try.
@yandykun That's what the old cuban people said. and THEY SAID this shit about Che. How else would it REALLY be told? You're right...They won't buy that crap, which makes it so much easier to pull it off. The hand is quicker than the eye. And if I remember right, Obama was trying to put laws on guns/rifles and even trying to fuck the right to have guns.
@whysoserious89 Obama was trying to put laws ?lol, i know that. i still remember when everyone was buying extra ammunition just in case, while others buy new firearms. i dont think this is gonna happen. when the americans feel something different, they are going to fuck the Gov. up. this is not cuba pal, even seniors can fuck u up with a shotgun. you can let those Navy Seals, Marines. Green Berets,Delta force,etc to come here and try to do something unconstitutional, then hell begins, for them..
@whysoserious89 I guess you must admire Charles Manson for what he believed in. How easy it is to be a Marxist in a free country! From Marxism came Communism and Nazism. Both ism are evil philosophies that have caused the deaths of 100 million. You are right in saying that Hitler and Che have similarities. They are both murderers and LOCOS.
@Desdeelexilio Not a fan of Charlie....But I COULD admire our government for allowing the rape of women and killing kids in Vietnam, and not having the balls to do anything about it. Or some of the other things our government has been involved in. And usually, most Marxist who have make a change in their country....were usually in somewhat of a free country you dumbass. I'm Marxist. I didn't say I believed in a slaughter of people. It's dictators who have used and abused this.
@Desdeelexilio And I guess the use of the atomic bomb was a-ok, just because it was done by America. So the world is suppose to let that one slide, I guess. And communisim must not be all that bad, being as China pretty much the most powerful right now, AND not to mention that MOST of the debt the U.S. owes is to the "commies" that they wasted so many lives, money, and time on; trying to destroy..Give it time before China decides to take that debt out with action, not words.
@whysoserious89 The Atomic Bombs were dropped on Imperial Japan because they refused to lose face and surrender. It was estimated at the time it would take 5 years of battle to take them down--and there was a calculation made that many more Japanese and American soldiers would be killed in 5 years of warring then with 2 bombings, in effect saving Japanese and American lives. Remember Pearl Harbor (and the Japanese "Rape of Nanking"!)
@yandykun if there were to be a marxist government, WITHOUT a "Stalin/Fidel", i would be more than happy to live there. And other than rich kids wearing and sporting his image without even knowing about him...I admire him for taking a STAND in what he believed in. As i admire John Lennon.... but i'm sure i can't like John Lennon because i'm sure the song "Imagine" has some bullshit to do with the dictatorship in your home of cuba, since we've heard about it in every comment you've posted.
CHE = Hero, leader, icon, father, son, husband, rebel, soldier, writer, intellectual, doctor, politician, dentist, poet, statesman, military theorist, economist, guerrilla, teacher, diplomat, general, warrior, defender of the poor, inspirational legend, and current saint in Bolivia.
Che represents everything that the right-wingers secretly wish they were - brave, determined, dashing, charismatic, intelligent, and unshakable against impenetrable odds.
El Che was a sadist murderer who brought incredible suffering and death to my homeland. Those of you who support Communism go to Cuba and live like the typical Cuban. Leave your dirty capitalist dollars in the US. I suggest you take with you a manual on how to build a raft. Also take a hammer a saw and some nails, without dollars you will have difficulties getting these and other things in Che's paradise. After a week in Cuba you will be ready to come back to the less than perfect, but free USA.
@Desdeelexilio i live the easiest way possible, im with che, but i have to agree with you in the point that many people say cub a is free etc, but at the same time go to the mall, buy fancy things and cannot live whitout facilities that cubans dont have, again, i respect your point of view, but above all ideologies and structures some men just stand and break every thing, of course you either love them or hate them, peace
@Desdeelexilio I'm sorry that you under the impression that Che is responsible to what is happening right now in Cuba. Castro and his son are the only ones to blame as to what Cuba became to be. Guevara and Castro had different goals and ideologies. Watch the movie again a little bit more carefully this time and you'll see what I'm talking about.
@innerloop Castro and Guevara are both murderers. Guevara was a maoist. Castro knew who was feeding him and supported te Soviets. They are both responsible for the plundering of a nation. By the way Hollywood is not history. Guevara, in addition to being a psycopth was a racist who despised the "indians" of Central America. They are both responsible for destroying my homeland.
Armandx10, I don`t know if you speak spanish, but... man, it was such a long time ago, do you think americans cared about black people at that time? Nobody cared about black people in that time!!, Che`s battle had nothing to do with black people that`s for sure, you can`t expect a man from his time to think like a man from our time, but still at his time the way he saw our world is very remarkable and we still can see it today, you know what I mean? Read, for God`s sake, read!!
The reason most people still like Che is for his racist theories on blacks. Where else can you hear someone say blacks are lazy and worthless without being denounced.
@armandx10 Are you even listening to yourself? People still like Che because he's a racist? I think its the complete opposite: people like Che (rightly or wrongly) because he represents resistance to oppression. Che did hold some bigoted views, there is no doubt in that, but to argue that people like Che BECAUSE he was a racist is willful ignorance on your part.
@IneptTroopr But he was racist,the communists cant deny it because Guevara is on record and in print making his racist remarks, so dont all you little Che groupies can now bin those t,shirts
@TheEinarr88 I never said he didn't have racist views. Nor am I a "Che groupie", as while there are many inspiring things about Guevara's actions and worldview, there is also much wrong with them, which is why I don't unconditionally admire him. However, I don't think we should let the negative aspects cloud the positive ones either; if we did, we should renounce nearly all historical figures we respect, since you can find bigoted views, violent intent, or other terrible flaws in any of them.
You are correct. Che represents the working man's resistance to oppression. He was not perfect, but he did stand up for his own beliefs. He has come to symbolize resistance world wide.
Comandante Che, usted no ha muerto. Usted vive en cada ser humano que se preocupa, trabaja, y lucha por el bienestar de los mas necesitados. Venceremos, hasta la victoria siempre.
I saw a teenager wearing the Che shirt here in Thailand. Funny, because Che put his .45 to the heads of teenage kids who were hired by Battista to carry rifles. When they readily surrendered, Che personally blew their brains out as they whimpered and begged for their lives. No jury trial. With hordes of prisoners screaming from the prison windows that they were just children. Pretty cool! You commies are so hip-cool! Stupid, anti-intellectual thugs.
Che: a cut rate pampered, murdering, psychopath. Cuba: a cut rate murdering dictatorship without property rights. Don't believe in property rights? Then give the state all your property, and ...see how long you live.
he believed in capital punishementwen he was in war and peopel that raped villagers got killed wartime americans kill soilders they simply disagree with!
A true tribute to a great soul. Thanks to Benicio for doing this character as its very much needed for the younger generations to know him, to lead a life of self respect, a life of sacrifice and a life with principles.
@egeek10 Take a look at who has led the United States and the history of this country and then maybe open your mouth to speak about other leaders...who might I add are much more educated than half of the presidents that this country has "elected".
It is actually quite interesting how all the comments to this clip is about how hot Del Toro is or how great or how bad Che was depending on which nationality you've got. Has anyone actually seen these movies??? Personally I think they are really great movies trying to portray Che as a human being; not good, not bad - just human. And I have huge respect for all the work and research which has been put into these movies. GREAT work from Del Toro and Soderberg, in my opinion.
Basically what I'm saying is that going to the Cuban government for the story of Che is like going to a salesman for info on the product they're trying to sell.
This movie isn't a good introduction, it's a biased introduction.
If you really think that del Toro could get accurate information from the Cuban government about Che, then you should really think about it. The Cuban government, like many other socialist states, thrives on inaccurate propaganda to win the masses over. So why would they tell a group of foreigners who are spreading the word of their hero the absolute truth, if there were despicable things that he'd done?
"The Cuban government, like many other socialist states, thrives on inaccurate propaganda to win the masses over."
what makes you think it's just socialist states that do that? any country where a dualistic good and evil, us and them mentality is imposed on people, any country with any more control than one of anarchistic hermits, does that. so if you're going to be sceptical about anything, be sceptical about everything.
Damn , this was hilarious to watch! Del Toro can barely spell his own name, yet this silly little deluded cocaine-sniffing thespian wants to give us history lessons!
Hollywood at its hypocritical, propaganda worst. If they're such bleedin'-heart, caring Communists why don't they share all of their wealth with the "proleteriat"?
castro is not a communist neither che, they are socialists. the reason behind the cuban revolution is rooted in a fighting back against the expliotation of capitasists in order that the working man is recocnised for his labour and able to have a decent standard of living for a hard days work.
@n17spurs che didnt shoot children this is just another "american" mad because cuba and castro scared the panties off of the U.S. why be concerned about who killed who when the U.S. military massacred children in gainir and tried to cover it up. the U.S. military killed women and children for profit so whos really counting?
@getyoasshome yea i just read an amazing biography of his relationship with fidel castro and it details all of their actions from the day they met in mexico
it isnt a biased account at all its just based on facts and it never mentions che shooting children at all!
he wouldv never done that
sounds like the type of crap fox news would bring up
@n17spurs well in this country according to the idiots..the US has never lost a war, never had slaves, never caused a war, never killed anyone and everyone in the country has a job a house, 2 dogs and 3 cars. they are blinded by the flag and "americanism" they THINK they are like the fat cats on wall street....key word...think. che killed those who were against the revolution he gave up his own land to the poor. the people were killed were slimeballs he forced the mafia out of cuba also.
I'm beg to find at least one yankee against capitalism. i would love to meet at least one who can ask us, the latinamericans, about our view, or ask about comunism and socialism and not only critize them for what you've been learned in school or in the family.
Che guevara was an excellent man, who gave his life to see a better world without poorness and opression, and he didn't need so he came from a very rich family.
Comunism isn't the "bad guy", neither the good. But is better than capitalism.
Crazy with fury I will stain my rifle red while slaughtering any enemy that falls in my hands! My nostrils dilate while savoring the acrid odor of gunpowder and blood. With the deaths of my enemies I prepare my being for the sacred fight and join the triumphant proletariat with a bestial howl!” -Ernesto Che Guevara
You people are mindless zombies. The man was a cold blooded murderer.
@TheSilverSultan4 You are the perfect example of a brain washed worthless waste of life. Che was scum. He was the chief executioner in Cuba. He ordered the death of people for such horrific crimes as playing the wrong genre of music. And that's no BS, it was an account from a jazz musician who fled from Cuba when he was marked for death for playing jazz. Che was a worthless sack of dog shit.
@chezypuuf that is your opinion....and what has the government done to the american people? do they not eat their own? and no america doesnt have too much food i can go to plenty cities in the US and find homeless and hungry people. would you really like to compare CHE to the many presidents in this country? its like comparing a domestic cat to a jungle tiger....this country has the highest prison population and is highly corrupt.
@chezypuuf would you mind take some words form batista? i assure you was lot worse. And any capitalist is LOT worse, making inequality, poorness and richest. People die of hunger every day with this bloody capitalist system. What is the spectation of life in Cuba? One of the highest: 80 years old (the medical system is public, any man with injuries can be healed). They have the biggest educational system of America, head-to-head with Canada.
@santi183 I r can write engrish. I lurn 2 type good 4 everyjuan. me gusta mucho herp-derp. Anyway you inbred weirdo... Capitalism in America has produced some of the highest standards of living in the world. The only reason we don't all live to be 100 is because we have so much food. Americans are known for overeating. Hell I own 4 cars, and 30 acres of land. I have a 130" front projection TV, and i am considered poor amongst my people. Go back to eating dirt you filthy dirt farmer.
@chezypuuf I don't know if you are from the United States, but clearly you are exactly the opposite of what i've comment. I don't so much English, but i've studied to know why in the world dies 35.000 people of hunger, and is because people like you.
In the United States, the 12,5% of the population suffers from hunger, and they are 86.000.000 millons. Do the maths. In Cuba everyone have food, and is very low the level of deaths from hunger, and is because de United States prohibited the
@santi183 in the US they dont care if you eat or not they blind with the false sense of security and lie to you about how great it is to be an "american" yet damn near half the country have no job, no food and no medical insurance....and the rich profit off of poor people.
@chezypuuf trade with Cuba, so all Cuba can do belongs from only that country, all the goods they produced. Do some research when you'll defend capitalism. It's true that probided one of the highest standars of living...IN UNITED STATES. Research about how many people dies every day in the world, from hunger, from lack of medicines, because they don't come to some of the "Third World" countries. That's one of the reasons why United States sucks. They can only watch themselves, and not know shit
@chezypuuf about our situation. I'm not hunger. I'm a student of literature, i'm not a farmer. I love Latin America and I love my country. Si podés comprobar que no sos un ignorante completo, y entedés estas palabras en español. Me equivoqué en los números de la cantidad de población, de los Estados Unidos... es de 310.000.000, aproximadamente. Imbécil, no sabés hablar español y muy pronto en tu país, los latinoamericanos van a ser más que su población yankee.
@santi183 Ok, either you are a 10/10 troll or the dumbest person alive. I'll bite anyway. You just blamed the failure of your country on not being able to trade with a capitalist country. Think about that you dirt farmer. As for the last part... The Latins here are on tons of social programs paid for by gringos like me. When my people go, your people will starve. They are like a parasitic worm that feeds on it's host. Viva latinos parasitarias!
@getyoasshome Wow... it took you 3 weeks to come up with that response? What did you need to hire an English coach so you could stop speaking in broken English like the wetback commie you are?
@chezypuuf i got bigger fish to fry than to comment or respond to your dumb ass...you're a bottom feeder you come last you're on the pay no mind list.
@chezypuuf you never seen a post of mine with broken english so i dont even know where you got that from...YOU BIG ASS DUMMY. ohhh i forgot all latins speak with broken english....much like the trash you idiots speak....go get an education, your country is bottom feeders in math and any other subject not named jersey shore and big brother.
@getyoasshome "your country is bottom feeders in math" an example of broken English. also i like how I'm to low to respond to, but you found the time to reply 4 times to my single comment.
@getyoasshome Wow... you are truly a massive tool. If I'm such a loser, and a dummy, and waste of yer time why do you keep replying to every comment i make?
@chezypuuf you never seen a post of mine with broken english so i dont even know where you got that from...YOU BIG ASS DUMMY. ohhh i forgot all latins speak with broken english....much like the trash you idiots speak....go get an education, your country is bottom feeders in math and any other subject not named jersey shore and big brother.
@chezypuuf you never seen a post of mine with broken english so i dont even know where you got that from...YOU BIG ASS DUMMY. ohhh i forgot all latins speak with broken english....much like the trash you idiots speak....go get an education, your country is bottom feeders in math and any other subject not named jersey shore and big brother.
America tried to to take over all of the smaller island nations by installing a dictator in Cuba. Che and Fidel were not having it and fought back, because of this the US has labeled Che andCastro the worst Communists in the world's history. Che and Fidel differed after they were in power and split ties. Che went onto the Congo to fight a revolution side by side with African people. So to say he disliked black or dark people is false. This guy was a Doctor! Not a Peasant by a long shot!
Che was a mass murderer. Plain and simple. He was responsible for artists, authors, and poets being killed just for doing what they loved. He helped turn Cuba into a communist dictatorship that people are so desperate to leave that they risk their lives and the lives of their families by riding makeshift rafts across an ocean to get to a capitalist society. Now you idiot liberals want to turn us into commies.......Fuck all you commie loving fucks...
@Jazepentz i love these kind of argument because ur just the exact same! il take it as your american for starters. so che was a communist serial murderer?that makes nearly every US president a capitalist serial murderer then! vietnam all those poor peolpe killed from bombing campaigns,all those poor iraqi folk been blown out of it for a bit of oil.capitalists make me sick!cause my country has being ravaged by british imperialism for 800 years! and id say capitalism has killed more than communism
People keep stating how the U.S is so anti-cuba and anti-communism. They supported Batista's regime when he was in power, and he was murdering people left, right and centre. When Fidel took power, the first thing the U.S did was try to reach an aggreemant with Castro, because the multi million dollar company, United Fruit, required Cuba to be opressed as to not share too much profit. They were only anti-Castro when Fidel and Che told them where to go, and thats when they decided to invade.
TWO movies? Pay twice to see essentially one movie?
Now that's capitalism at it's best/worst. A movie about an anti-capitalist that in reality reflects the exact greed of capitalism that Che fought... ironic and sad.
@WhiteKnightArmour- I would say there are as many corrupt capitalists as anything else in the world. The system of capitalism is completely corrupt and deceitful... the two keys ingredients to success...unfortunately.
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For all you sh*t talking Che, you will never amount to anything Che has ever done, this is a very humanitarian person, his goal was to rid the world of the backward American ideologies and their materialistic and imperialistic ideals which produce a dolla $ign for anything you imagine...life itself.. Che was a legend, a person like that is born once in a century.
"I knew that when the great guiding spirit cleaves humanity into two antagonistic halves, I will be with the people. ”
— Che Guevara
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magnifico101 3 weeks ago
stalin and mao were not communists. even cuba is not truely communist country, no matter how much they wanted it to be - which is why it's so sad. every failed example of communism we have seen has either been a complete lie (stalin's state-capitalism ...) or corrupted by lack of resources and monopolies of power (usa trade blockade on cuba). fucking hell, it's so simple and yet so many people brush it off as totalitarianism. read!!!!
goldenmunky123 1 month ago
It must be so easy being a communist, as you never have to engage with reality, living as you do in a world of good intentions corrupted by false consciousness and imperialism. Stalinism was in place before 1924 as Lenin and Trotsky had established the Cheka, the Gulag system etc. The Red Terror preceeded the Great Purge. Trotsky crushed the Krondstadt rebellion. Communism was tried and it failed everywhere because it contradicts human nature.
Bastiat90 1 month ago
research the dictatorship of the proletariat. fidel's has never been able to end. you may think that he is evil and corrupted by power, but personally i think that if che's global revolution had been successful, the dictatorship would have withered away everywhere eventually. there are not many men who could achieve what fidel and che did. maybe you hate 'communism', but remember that real communism has never actually been allowed to flourish. i believe fidel would like it to, however.
goldenmunky123 1 month ago
of course there are things about cuba's current political system that are awful for some people who live there. lack of freedom, poverty etc... although it's ridiculous to say that americans are any more free than cubans. yes, you have freedom of speech, but no onewe listens to you let alone cares. yes, there is 'equality of opportunity' but what the fuck does that mean if you're poor? the usa is violently anti-socialist (wrongly), and that is evident in the brainwashing of it's people.
goldenmunky123 1 month ago
Americans are allowed to own private property. They can criticise their government without fear of reprisal. They can own a car. They can elect their leaders. They can live in a free country without swimming across shark infested waters to do so. They can work in the private sector rather than be a parasite of the state.
Bastiat90 1 month ago
THIS is what che was aiming to do. to give all children a moral, political, philosophical, psychological education, so that every human being was able to understand themselves and the best way for our species to exist. capitalism will not go down without a fight - we see that every day, and it is illustrated in the assassination of che himself. this is why castro prepared his revolutionaries for a fight - because he knew men like batista and knew that otherwise, cuba would continue to suffer.
goldenmunky123 1 month ago
He was a murderer! Hitler had good intentions for the Aryan peoples of Germany. Does that make him a good man?
Bastiat90 1 month ago
to anyone who has commented arguing that che guevara was a murderer/racist/sadist, please look at communism in context. if you read marx's true ideals, you will see that all it means in true equality: full equality. look at bakunin's ideals (anarcho-communism) of the anarchist existence that COULD be achieved if capitalism were overthrown and, in the words of rousseau, everyone was allowed to achieve 'perfect enlightenment'... through education...
goldenmunky123 1 month ago
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@Bastiat90
Perhaps you met him as well?
And your hand was brunt when you shock hands with him?
kammail2002 1 month ago
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kammail2002 1 month ago
Soderbergh's best movies by FAR..
MrHEC381991 2 months ago
@mschuxo No one's perfect, but he certainly was not racist.
Lukege15 3 months ago
OMG.. how many of you idiots actually know about el carnicero de la cabaña
osmyrod 3 months ago
Che Guevera was a lot like Trotsky. He was admired by leftists because he opposed the 'revisionism' of leftist leaders. Both were murdering monsters i.e. Krondstadt in 1921. Guevera didn't believe in democracy, he opposed free elections and wanted a monopoly of power for the Left, even if the population disagreed with him. You seriously need to educate yourself if you believe Che Guevera was a perfect creature, because you're an apologist for mass murder.
Bastiat90 3 months ago
Wonder if they are going to show La Cabana where Che has thousands of men women and children executed via firing squad.
skumstwo 5 months ago
@skumstwo lol why he would have done that?
Lapinmiez 4 months ago
And as for the second quote about Mexicans, can you tell me where the origin is from? I can only find it on republican and liberal websites that quote it in their articles, but none have citations. I only saw one possible citation to a book and it's by a guy that says he spoke to an eyewitness that heard Ernesto say that (in other words, there's no proof...). If you could find the origin, I'd be really interested.
bambina1991 5 months ago
@MrBloograss Those lines were written when he was a youth on his motorcycle trip, first time encountering black people in Venezuela. He later said he was a changed man by the end of the trip. How could he be racist to blacks when he fought in Africa with an all black army against white South African mercenaries of Apartheid? I've said stupid things that I now regret, except luckily I'm not famous nor will I ever be, and my thoughts will never be published to the public...
bambina1991 5 months ago
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Very good film.
boosted28 5 months ago
I really like the way Benicio del Toro thinks.
LarsUlrichFan1988 6 months ago
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"Che’s life is an inspiration for every human being who loves freedom, we will always honor his memory." — Nelson Mandela
"Che is not only an intellectual, he was the most complete human being of our time, our eras most perfect man." — Jean Paul Sartre
CHE:
- Worked in a Leper colony and treated lepers (as seen in the excellent film ‘The Motorcycle Diaries’)
- Removed the Mafia and dictatorship of Batista from Cuba which had killed 20,000 Cubans and tortured thousands more
4Barbudos 6 months ago
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Che’s “CRIMES” were:
~ Stopping American companies from owning 70 % of the arable land in Cuba
~ Teaching peasants to read, by bringing the Cuban literacy rate from 60 to 97 %
~ Having the 200 or so War Criminals who killed 20,000 Cubans for Batista shot against a wall
~ Fighting white mercenaries in the African Congo with an all black army
~ Speaking out against US and eventually USSR Imperialism while demanding that the poor of the world be allowed to live a life of dignity
4Barbudos 6 months ago
Can murderers call him a murderer ?
Tuttigiu 7 months ago
And? So is Obama.
DRP750 8 months ago
Somehow they missed this in the movie:
“To send men to the firing squad, judicial proof is unnecessary. These procedures are an archaic bourgeois detail … This is a revolution. And a revolutionary must become a cold killing machine motivated by pure hate.” Guevara
“If the nuclear missiles had remained (in Cuba), we would have fired them against the heart of the US, including New York City. The victory of socialism is well worth millions of atomic victims.” Guevara
MrsKette 8 months ago
I believed he was a good man. Not a murder.
DRP750 8 months ago
@DRP750 perhaps he was a good murderer?
hornemedia 8 months ago
To those ignorant assholes out there who want to talk shit: Have you ever heard of Juan Almeida Bosque? He was one of the key figures in the Cuban revolution, a very dear friend of Guevara's and he was BLACK. After the revolution he became a key figure in the state affairs. This was while The US still had Afro-Americans trying to get equal rights for themselves.Also if Che was a racist, why did he fight and risk his life in Congo? He fought for the freedom of the locals who were being oppressed.
ScarletSnake 10 months ago 6
@ScarletSnake YES I HEARD ABOUT THAT CRIMINAL NEGRO. NEGRO LIKE AGHOSTINO NETO, OR SEKUE TURET. FOLLOWED OF THE CASTRO'S DICTATORSHIP. DID YOU KNOW THAT CHE KILL WHOLE LOT OF NEGROS IN AFRIKA ,SO CASTRO IN ANGOLA.
azalori 9 months ago
@azalori
Who was he supposed to kill in Congo? Would you be pleased if he found Latin Americans in Africa and killed them instead? You're missing the point here, the people who were on his side could be black, white, hispanic, heck even asian (look up the sino-soviet split). When their ideology counters yours and you want a revolution, and they wont give in peacefully, you shoot, you kill. What, are these concepts new to you or just hard to grasp? By the way, ever heard of caps lock?
ScarletSnake 9 months ago
Che wasn't racist, he fought for Africans. find a Klansman who will do that
tripfontan 10 months ago 3
@tripfontan needless to say, there is all kinds of racism
stfu
OriginalSituation 9 months ago
Another useful idiot Hollywood actor. Did you see the Miami Cubans who knew Che's Cuba shout down Soderberg at a screening of the Che hagiography?
toiseywoisey 10 months ago
hi Del to ro ,, u r the best ,,, Che is so so beautiful movie I have ever watch...
gurungvera 11 months ago
he is not clever enough to play Che
november191968 11 months ago
The U.S. reminds me of that bitchy popular girl....she's always complaining and always has to make everything that's going on around her, be about her. I think Che was a great man. The difference between him and the U.S. is the U.S. does it for it's own gains, and money. Wheres Che did it, trying to help and improve those who didn't stand a chance or had to eek their ways through life. Not saying it would have worked, but at least he had the balls to take a stand.
Hasta La Victoria Siempre.
whysoserious89 11 months ago
@whysoserious89 And what English speaking country are you from sport? Seems to me, if it wasn't for the good ol' USA, blokes like you would now be speaking German. You'd be a little "serious" if you had every right removed by your government. That is all Castro and Che could ever offer.
ryanrful 11 months ago
@ryanrful I'm from the U.S.....and before too long, our country is going to be on that track anyway. But besides that, I am German =].....and I said Che was a good man because he wasn't doing it for financial gain like our country does. And because he took a stand in what he believed in, to help others. Where here if you attempted anything like that, without guns; you would automatically be marked a Commie or a terrorist. Those have become words for an excuse for someone who tries to stand up.
whysoserious89 11 months ago
@whysoserious89 I appreciate your response, You sound like you have a good head on your shoulders. We have our problems in the U.S., in the past and even now, we have supported policies that were not the most appropriate; however, when you put it in the context of what other countries have done, you begin to understand. We live in a free society and if we work hard we improve our lot as we contribute to society. Communism suffocates you, it takes away all your rights and turns you into a slave.
ryanrful 11 months ago
@ryanrful And as I also said, "Not saying it would have worked, but at least he had the balls to take a stand."
whysoserious89 11 months ago
Real nice Benicio. Now know this, if people like Guevara ran the world you would not be permitted to make millions on your films; you would not be able to own more than one house and a car, all other property would be expropriated by the government. Free enterprise would be gone, so you would have a rations card, one pair of pants and shoes a year and little else. Its easy to be logical when dealing with other people's pain. Guevara murdered thousands of innocent Cubans. Film that truth idiot.
ryanrful 1 year ago
@ryanrful Our U.S. government, "The Land of the Free" is practically doing EACH ONE OF THOSE things to us anyway....And how many innocent people has our country killed? Not trying to start a Youtube debate, just stating a fact.
whysoserious89 11 months ago
@whysoserious89 lol. that is not an excuse pal. move to my country cuba. im gonna give u a week until u start crying to go back to the US. che guevara was a terrorist piece of shit.
yandykun 11 months ago
@yandykun And MY country, hasn't done any terrorist acts towards other countries at all.....Right? lol YEAAAAA. Our government is a lame ass cover up of saying the Pledge of Allegiance and saying "In God We Trust"
whysoserious89 11 months ago
@whysoserious89 why is everyone comparing ?how old are you man ? you are very ignorant u know, no ofense really. if you dont like how america do thing, why dont u move to NK >?or cuba ?there you can feel what these so called heroes have done to my country.if the US have done terrorist attacks, that doesnt excuse others to murder innocent people because this is not a competition. i agree the US Gov is fucked up, but do you seriously want to move to my country ?come on. u wont last 3 hours.
yandykun 11 months ago
@yandykun 21...and ignorant, because i'm stating my opinion? and i think you bitching would pressure me to move back before communism would. and why don't you take the tampax out of your asshole, hop on a fuck banana boat, and float your ass up here, if you're so concerned about Fidel and Raul. And you're right, it's not a competition nor did i say it was. Your the one that's making it a competition, by the comparisons between our countries.
whysoserious89 11 months ago
@whysoserious89 fuck that shit. who am i talking to ?you cant even write well your own language. why do you have to offend me ?did my comment shake you a little bit ?get another hobby pal. this shit doesnt suit you. go live in cuba and then tell me how you like it, but dont go as a tourist, go live there as a cuban. In Cuba, you will feel what these murderers did to my country: destroyed and frozen in time.
yandykun 11 months ago
@yandykun Well maybe I had a type-o...but looky here Hooked on Phonics: Cuban Edition: "You can't even write well your own language"...And that's cleared up. Moving on. Me offend you? You offended me when I never once said I agreed with the executions, or any of that shit. No, it's you calling me ignorant, and then hearing the rambling of Cuba this Cuba that. You're almost like a Fidel speech, Cuba this and Cuba that.
whysoserious89 11 months ago
@whysoserious89 well, if you are offended because i called you an ignorant, you shouldnt be. you dont know how easy you have it here in the US.
yandykun 11 months ago
@yandykun This shit doesn't suit me? Who am I? Who the fuck are you? the ambassador of cuba?
whysoserious89 11 months ago
@yandykun because the US is in the making of a dictatorship. I'm a MARXIST, not a pro-castro, NOT a Kim Jung....I admire Che for standing up for what he believed in...I believe in equality for everyone. Hitler and Che in my eyes, have some similarities. People look down on them, granted...but it's the GOOD they could have caused. and I'm sure, "your country", if you're even from cuba, would be a HELL of a lot better with batitsta in charge still. Agree, or disagree?
whysoserious89 11 months ago
@whysoserious89 we were better with batista.well that was what the old cuban people said, but he was a piece of shit too.everyone who is a dictator is a piece of shit. look at egypt. that country is now free. do you know what freedom is ?of course not. because you have to live in both system and then give an opinion about it. US is making a dicatorship ?really ?lol, americans wont buy that crap. this is different. why do you think people own firearms for ?please. just let them try.
yandykun 11 months ago
@yandykun That's what the old cuban people said. and THEY SAID this shit about Che. How else would it REALLY be told? You're right...They won't buy that crap, which makes it so much easier to pull it off. The hand is quicker than the eye. And if I remember right, Obama was trying to put laws on guns/rifles and even trying to fuck the right to have guns.
whysoserious89 11 months ago
@whysoserious89 Obama was trying to put laws ?lol, i know that. i still remember when everyone was buying extra ammunition just in case, while others buy new firearms. i dont think this is gonna happen. when the americans feel something different, they are going to fuck the Gov. up. this is not cuba pal, even seniors can fuck u up with a shotgun. you can let those Navy Seals, Marines. Green Berets,Delta force,etc to come here and try to do something unconstitutional, then hell begins, for them..
yandykun 11 months ago
@whysoserious89 I guess you must admire Charles Manson for what he believed in. How easy it is to be a Marxist in a free country! From Marxism came Communism and Nazism. Both ism are evil philosophies that have caused the deaths of 100 million. You are right in saying that Hitler and Che have similarities. They are both murderers and LOCOS.
Desdeelexilio 10 months ago
@Desdeelexilio Not a fan of Charlie....But I COULD admire our government for allowing the rape of women and killing kids in Vietnam, and not having the balls to do anything about it. Or some of the other things our government has been involved in. And usually, most Marxist who have make a change in their country....were usually in somewhat of a free country you dumbass. I'm Marxist. I didn't say I believed in a slaughter of people. It's dictators who have used and abused this.
whysoserious89 10 months ago
@Desdeelexilio And I guess the use of the atomic bomb was a-ok, just because it was done by America. So the world is suppose to let that one slide, I guess. And communisim must not be all that bad, being as China pretty much the most powerful right now, AND not to mention that MOST of the debt the U.S. owes is to the "commies" that they wasted so many lives, money, and time on; trying to destroy..Give it time before China decides to take that debt out with action, not words.
whysoserious89 10 months ago
@whysoserious89 The Atomic Bombs were dropped on Imperial Japan because they refused to lose face and surrender. It was estimated at the time it would take 5 years of battle to take them down--and there was a calculation made that many more Japanese and American soldiers would be killed in 5 years of warring then with 2 bombings, in effect saving Japanese and American lives. Remember Pearl Harbor (and the Japanese "Rape of Nanking"!)
toiseywoisey 10 months ago
@yandykun if there were to be a marxist government, WITHOUT a "Stalin/Fidel", i would be more than happy to live there. And other than rich kids wearing and sporting his image without even knowing about him...I admire him for taking a STAND in what he believed in. As i admire John Lennon.... but i'm sure i can't like John Lennon because i'm sure the song "Imagine" has some bullshit to do with the dictatorship in your home of cuba, since we've heard about it in every comment you've posted.
whysoserious89 11 months ago
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CHE = Hero, leader, icon, father, son, husband, rebel, soldier, writer, intellectual, doctor, politician, dentist, poet, statesman, military theorist, economist, guerrilla, teacher, diplomat, general, warrior, defender of the poor, inspirational legend, and current saint in Bolivia.
Che represents everything that the right-wingers secretly wish they were - brave, determined, dashing, charismatic, intelligent, and unshakable against impenetrable odds.
4Barbudos 1 year ago
El Che was a sadist murderer who brought incredible suffering and death to my homeland. Those of you who support Communism go to Cuba and live like the typical Cuban. Leave your dirty capitalist dollars in the US. I suggest you take with you a manual on how to build a raft. Also take a hammer a saw and some nails, without dollars you will have difficulties getting these and other things in Che's paradise. After a week in Cuba you will be ready to come back to the less than perfect, but free USA.
Desdeelexilio 1 year ago
@Desdeelexilio i live the easiest way possible, im with che, but i have to agree with you in the point that many people say cub a is free etc, but at the same time go to the mall, buy fancy things and cannot live whitout facilities that cubans dont have, again, i respect your point of view, but above all ideologies and structures some men just stand and break every thing, of course you either love them or hate them, peace
diegoromeromora 1 year ago
@Desdeelexilio
diegoromeromora 1 year ago
@Desdeelexilio I'm sorry that you under the impression that Che is responsible to what is happening right now in Cuba. Castro and his son are the only ones to blame as to what Cuba became to be. Guevara and Castro had different goals and ideologies. Watch the movie again a little bit more carefully this time and you'll see what I'm talking about.
innerloop 1 year ago
@innerloop Castro and Guevara are both murderers. Guevara was a maoist. Castro knew who was feeding him and supported te Soviets. They are both responsible for the plundering of a nation. By the way Hollywood is not history. Guevara, in addition to being a psycopth was a racist who despised the "indians" of Central America. They are both responsible for destroying my homeland.
Desdeelexilio 10 months ago
i think its an honor to play el comandante Guevara
MARXCCCP 1 year ago
Armandx10, I don`t know if you speak spanish, but... man, it was such a long time ago, do you think americans cared about black people at that time? Nobody cared about black people in that time!!, Che`s battle had nothing to do with black people that`s for sure, you can`t expect a man from his time to think like a man from our time, but still at his time the way he saw our world is very remarkable and we still can see it today, you know what I mean? Read, for God`s sake, read!!
fedeahumada81 1 year ago
@fedeahumada81 If your a racist it doesnt matter when, Guevara was a RACIST end of
TheEinarr88 1 year ago
Benicio Del Toro is SUCH a handsome man
shortiieCS 1 year ago 11
@shortiieCS i think che is far more handsome than him
esraretin 10 months ago
The reason most people still like Che is for his racist theories on blacks. Where else can you hear someone say blacks are lazy and worthless without being denounced.
armandx10 1 year ago
@armandx10 Are you even listening to yourself? People still like Che because he's a racist? I think its the complete opposite: people like Che (rightly or wrongly) because he represents resistance to oppression. Che did hold some bigoted views, there is no doubt in that, but to argue that people like Che BECAUSE he was a racist is willful ignorance on your part.
IneptTroopr 1 year ago 17
@IneptTroopr But he was racist,the communists cant deny it because Guevara is on record and in print making his racist remarks, so dont all you little Che groupies can now bin those t,shirts
TheEinarr88 1 year ago
@TheEinarr88 I never said he didn't have racist views. Nor am I a "Che groupie", as while there are many inspiring things about Guevara's actions and worldview, there is also much wrong with them, which is why I don't unconditionally admire him. However, I don't think we should let the negative aspects cloud the positive ones either; if we did, we should renounce nearly all historical figures we respect, since you can find bigoted views, violent intent, or other terrible flaws in any of them.
IneptTroopr 1 year ago
@IneptTroopr che guevara was a fucking comunist piece of shit
yandykun 11 months ago
@IneptTroopr
You are correct. Che represents the working man's resistance to oppression. He was not perfect, but he did stand up for his own beliefs. He has come to symbolize resistance world wide.
coolmamac 9 months ago
Chew on bloody cunt leftist wet rag faggot
AmericanBadass44 5 months ago
@AmericanBadass44 u mad bro?
IneptTroopr 2 months ago
Great movie about a Great hero
Bigstarrocker9 1 year ago
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Comandante Che, usted no ha muerto. Usted vive en cada ser humano que se preocupa, trabaja, y lucha por el bienestar de los mas necesitados. Venceremos, hasta la victoria siempre.
holaforistas 1 year ago
I saw a teenager wearing the Che shirt here in Thailand. Funny, because Che put his .45 to the heads of teenage kids who were hired by Battista to carry rifles. When they readily surrendered, Che personally blew their brains out as they whimpered and begged for their lives. No jury trial. With hordes of prisoners screaming from the prison windows that they were just children. Pretty cool! You commies are so hip-cool! Stupid, anti-intellectual thugs.
FreedomJury 1 year ago
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fedeahumada81 1 year ago
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@FreedomJury Where did you get that information? Paris Hilton`s channel?
fedeahumada81 1 year ago
Che: a cut rate pampered, murdering, psychopath. Cuba: a cut rate murdering dictatorship without property rights. Don't believe in property rights? Then give the state all your property, and ...see how long you live.
FreedomJury 1 year ago
he believed in capital punishementwen he was in war and peopel that raped villagers got killed wartime americans kill soilders they simply disagree with!
timetochilli 1 year ago
A true tribute to a great soul. Thanks to Benicio for doing this character as its very much needed for the younger generations to know him, to lead a life of self respect, a life of sacrifice and a life with principles.
vevasam 1 year ago 2
" CANTINFLAS " , el famoso personaje del gran Mario Moreno tiene un asombroso parecido con el Che.
Dudo mucho que Cantinflas se hubiera prestado para interpretar a un personaje tan negativo y maligno como Guevara.
Liborio1902 1 year ago
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douCHE was a cool stalinist commie who killed homo's and anyone who didn't believe in communism. benicio is a great actor.
unibrook 1 year ago
great performance in a great movie
Daneking1992 1 year ago
toro is a fuckin idiot - he honors a killer - wtf is wrong with the dumb ass liberal idiots?
egeek10 1 year ago
@egeek10 killers are american presidents like bush and prime ministers like blair. they killed thousands times more than che. wtf r u talkin about.
lasarius21 1 year ago 2
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@egeek10 killers are american presidents like bush and prime ministers like blair. they killed thousands times more than che. wtf r u talkin about.
lasarius21 1 year ago
@egeek10 You better take your medication seriously, u r losing it pal.
LiquidT3nsion 1 year ago
@egeek10 Take a look at who has led the United States and the history of this country and then maybe open your mouth to speak about other leaders...who might I add are much more educated than half of the presidents that this country has "elected".
Sipaviciute 1 year ago
@Sipaviciute do you have a point besides the one on your head? LOL
egeek10 1 year ago
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@egeek10 You are dumb. :)
Sipaviciute 1 year ago
It is actually quite interesting how all the comments to this clip is about how hot Del Toro is or how great or how bad Che was depending on which nationality you've got. Has anyone actually seen these movies??? Personally I think they are really great movies trying to portray Che as a human being; not good, not bad - just human. And I have huge respect for all the work and research which has been put into these movies. GREAT work from Del Toro and Soderberg, in my opinion.
LouiseogBo 1 year ago
In america they promise democarcy, but serve you fascism!
piercedbydave 1 year ago
Benicio Del Toro is so freakin hot man!!!!!!! i think im sinning because i like worship him. muchos besos mi amor Benicio Del Toro
bonolarryedge 1 year ago
Basically what I'm saying is that going to the Cuban government for the story of Che is like going to a salesman for info on the product they're trying to sell.
SteveDirtyGhettoKid 1 year ago
This movie isn't a good introduction, it's a biased introduction.
If you really think that del Toro could get accurate information from the Cuban government about Che, then you should really think about it. The Cuban government, like many other socialist states, thrives on inaccurate propaganda to win the masses over. So why would they tell a group of foreigners who are spreading the word of their hero the absolute truth, if there were despicable things that he'd done?
SteveDirtyGhettoKid 1 year ago
@SteveDirtyGhettoKid
"The Cuban government, like many other socialist states, thrives on inaccurate propaganda to win the masses over."
what makes you think it's just socialist states that do that? any country where a dualistic good and evil, us and them mentality is imposed on people, any country with any more control than one of anarchistic hermits, does that. so if you're going to be sceptical about anything, be sceptical about everything.
rabbitspliff 1 year ago
magnum gold please
hellobooom 1 year ago
Damn , this was hilarious to watch! Del Toro can barely spell his own name, yet this silly little deluded cocaine-sniffing thespian wants to give us history lessons!
Hollywood at its hypocritical, propaganda worst. If they're such bleedin'-heart, caring Communists why don't they share all of their wealth with the "proleteriat"?
"Che" has all the realism of "Bambi".
FedorEight 1 year ago
castro is not a communist neither che, they are socialists. the reason behind the cuban revolution is rooted in a fighting back against the expliotation of capitasists in order that the working man is recocnised for his labour and able to have a decent standard of living for a hard days work.
danielbtwd 1 year ago
Che shot kids. It doesn't matter if he was a commie, a capitalist, or an alien. He shot freakin little kids in the head.
FL337 1 year ago
@FL337 VIVA EL CHE!
flamenkiviris 1 year ago
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@FL337 VIVA EL CHE!
flamenkiviris 1 year ago
@FL337 wheres your proof for that?
when did he ever shoot children?
n17spurs 1 year ago
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@n17spurs
Put links on your page, I couldn't post them here.
FL337 1 year ago
@n17spurs You wouldn't know proof if it hit you in the head tied to ten bricks...
FedorEight 1 year ago
@FedorEight and that answer proves you dont have any proof
or even evidence
just a meaningless corny catchphrase
n17spurs 1 year ago
@n17spurs che didnt shoot children this is just another "american" mad because cuba and castro scared the panties off of the U.S. why be concerned about who killed who when the U.S. military massacred children in gainir and tried to cover it up. the U.S. military killed women and children for profit so whos really counting?
getyoasshome 1 year ago
@getyoasshome yea i just read an amazing biography of his relationship with fidel castro and it details all of their actions from the day they met in mexico
it isnt a biased account at all its just based on facts and it never mentions che shooting children at all!
he wouldv never done that
sounds like the type of crap fox news would bring up
n17spurs 1 year ago
@n17spurs well in this country according to the idiots..the US has never lost a war, never had slaves, never caused a war, never killed anyone and everyone in the country has a job a house, 2 dogs and 3 cars. they are blinded by the flag and "americanism" they THINK they are like the fat cats on wall street....key word...think. che killed those who were against the revolution he gave up his own land to the poor. the people were killed were slimeballs he forced the mafia out of cuba also.
getyoasshome 1 year ago
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@getyoasshome youre a dumb cunt arent ya?
egeek10 1 year ago
i hate el che guevara
milo333100 1 year ago
I'm from Argentina, the country where Che Guevara was borned. He was part of my family.
Make some research, and you'll find excellent things about Che and Comunism. Don't be mind-closed
santi183 1 year ago
I'm beg to find at least one yankee against capitalism. i would love to meet at least one who can ask us, the latinamericans, about our view, or ask about comunism and socialism and not only critize them for what you've been learned in school or in the family.
Che guevara was an excellent man, who gave his life to see a better world without poorness and opression, and he didn't need so he came from a very rich family.
Comunism isn't the "bad guy", neither the good. But is better than capitalism.
santi183 1 year ago
Crazy with fury I will stain my rifle red while slaughtering any enemy that falls in my hands! My nostrils dilate while savoring the acrid odor of gunpowder and blood. With the deaths of my enemies I prepare my being for the sacred fight and join the triumphant proletariat with a bestial howl!” -Ernesto Che Guevara
You people are mindless zombies. The man was a cold blooded murderer.
chezypuuf 1 year ago
@chezypuuf good fake words, is this from Conservpedia, or Fox, bullshit, anyways revolutions tend to be bloody, what a moron,
TheSilverSultan4 1 year ago
@TheSilverSultan4 You are the perfect example of a brain washed worthless waste of life. Che was scum. He was the chief executioner in Cuba. He ordered the death of people for such horrific crimes as playing the wrong genre of music. And that's no BS, it was an account from a jazz musician who fled from Cuba when he was marked for death for playing jazz. Che was a worthless sack of dog shit.
chezypuuf 1 year ago
@chezypuuf that is your opinion....and what has the government done to the american people? do they not eat their own? and no america doesnt have too much food i can go to plenty cities in the US and find homeless and hungry people. would you really like to compare CHE to the many presidents in this country? its like comparing a domestic cat to a jungle tiger....this country has the highest prison population and is highly corrupt.
getyoasshome 1 year ago
@chezypuuf would you mind take some words form batista? i assure you was lot worse. And any capitalist is LOT worse, making inequality, poorness and richest. People die of hunger every day with this bloody capitalist system. What is the spectation of life in Cuba? One of the highest: 80 years old (the medical system is public, any man with injuries can be healed). They have the biggest educational system of America, head-to-head with Canada.
He was a liberator, a savior.
I'm from Argentina.
santi183 1 year ago
@santi183 I r can write engrish. I lurn 2 type good 4 everyjuan. me gusta mucho herp-derp. Anyway you inbred weirdo... Capitalism in America has produced some of the highest standards of living in the world. The only reason we don't all live to be 100 is because we have so much food. Americans are known for overeating. Hell I own 4 cars, and 30 acres of land. I have a 130" front projection TV, and i am considered poor amongst my people. Go back to eating dirt you filthy dirt farmer.
chezypuuf 1 year ago
@chezypuuf I don't know if you are from the United States, but clearly you are exactly the opposite of what i've comment. I don't so much English, but i've studied to know why in the world dies 35.000 people of hunger, and is because people like you.
In the United States, the 12,5% of the population suffers from hunger, and they are 86.000.000 millons. Do the maths. In Cuba everyone have food, and is very low the level of deaths from hunger, and is because de United States prohibited the
santi183 1 year ago
@santi183 in the US they dont care if you eat or not they blind with the false sense of security and lie to you about how great it is to be an "american" yet damn near half the country have no job, no food and no medical insurance....and the rich profit off of poor people.
getyoasshome 1 year ago
@chezypuuf trade with Cuba, so all Cuba can do belongs from only that country, all the goods they produced. Do some research when you'll defend capitalism. It's true that probided one of the highest standars of living...IN UNITED STATES. Research about how many people dies every day in the world, from hunger, from lack of medicines, because they don't come to some of the "Third World" countries. That's one of the reasons why United States sucks. They can only watch themselves, and not know shit
santi183 1 year ago
@santi183 very true and well said...they only create false vaccines..the same vaccines that give american kids autism.
getyoasshome 1 year ago
@chezypuuf about our situation. I'm not hunger. I'm a student of literature, i'm not a farmer. I love Latin America and I love my country. Si podés comprobar que no sos un ignorante completo, y entedés estas palabras en español. Me equivoqué en los números de la cantidad de población, de los Estados Unidos... es de 310.000.000, aproximadamente. Imbécil, no sabés hablar español y muy pronto en tu país, los latinoamericanos van a ser más que su población yankee.
Viva latinoamerica!
santi183 1 year ago
@santi183 Ok, either you are a 10/10 troll or the dumbest person alive. I'll bite anyway. You just blamed the failure of your country on not being able to trade with a capitalist country. Think about that you dirt farmer. As for the last part... The Latins here are on tons of social programs paid for by gringos like me. When my people go, your people will starve. They are like a parasitic worm that feeds on it's host. Viva latinos parasitarias!
chezypuuf 1 year ago
@chezypuuf so is all your presidents......
getyoasshome 1 year ago
@getyoasshome Wow... I don't even know how to respond to something so dumb. "Me speaky engrish reel gewd" All your president are belong to us?
chezypuuf 1 year ago
@chezypuuf what are you talking about? STAY ON TOPIC!!!!! better yet just tap out...the camel clutch is locked in say uncle little man.
getyoasshome 1 year ago
@getyoasshome Wow... it took you 3 weeks to come up with that response? What did you need to hire an English coach so you could stop speaking in broken English like the wetback commie you are?
chezypuuf 1 year ago
@chezypuuf i got bigger fish to fry than to comment or respond to your dumb ass...you're a bottom feeder you come last you're on the pay no mind list.
getyoasshome 1 year ago
@chezypuuf you never seen a post of mine with broken english so i dont even know where you got that from...YOU BIG ASS DUMMY. ohhh i forgot all latins speak with broken english....much like the trash you idiots speak....go get an education, your country is bottom feeders in math and any other subject not named jersey shore and big brother.
getyoasshome 1 year ago
@getyoasshome "your country is bottom feeders in math" an example of broken English. also i like how I'm to low to respond to, but you found the time to reply 4 times to my single comment.
chezypuuf 1 year ago
@chezypuuf I LAUGH HARD AT YOU.....BIG DUMMY.
getyoasshome 1 year ago
@getyoasshome Wow... you are truly a massive tool. If I'm such a loser, and a dummy, and waste of yer time why do you keep replying to every comment i make?
chezypuuf 1 year ago
@chezypuuf you never seen a post of mine with broken english so i dont even know where you got that from...YOU BIG ASS DUMMY. ohhh i forgot all latins speak with broken english....much like the trash you idiots speak....go get an education, your country is bottom feeders in math and any other subject not named jersey shore and big brother.
getyoasshome 1 year ago
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@chezypuuf you never seen a post of mine with broken english so i dont even know where you got that from...YOU BIG ASS DUMMY. ohhh i forgot all latins speak with broken english....much like the trash you idiots speak....go get an education, your country is bottom feeders in math and any other subject not named jersey shore and big brother.
getyoasshome 1 year ago
Che Déspota Asesino que solo implanto el TERROR
Conozca a esta Bestia en
¨CHE GUEVARA ANATOMIA DE UN MITO¨
La Democracia no es guerrilla ni secuestros ni asesinatos tampoco se instala a la fuerza sino con la Libre expresión de los Hombres
La Democracia es el factor fundamental para el desarrollo de un país
Cuba ejemplo de la desgracia de un pueblo sin democracia
VIVAN LOS DERECHOS HUMANOS.
LDiazDeVillegas 1 year ago
America tried to to take over all of the smaller island nations by installing a dictator in Cuba. Che and Fidel were not having it and fought back, because of this the US has labeled Che andCastro the worst Communists in the world's history. Che and Fidel differed after they were in power and split ties. Che went onto the Congo to fight a revolution side by side with African people. So to say he disliked black or dark people is false. This guy was a Doctor! Not a Peasant by a long shot!
daxeboy9 1 year ago
EL CHE VIVE
waltermetal1987 1 year ago
its amazing when you look at the cuban revolution how young the leaders where i mean christ che and fidel were only in ther twenties
bobdylan4evr 1 year ago
there is a family who live on the same street as me and they are related to che guevara and the oldest son is a complete double of him, its uncanny.
thelittleunknown 1 year ago
@thelittleunknown I bet he hates those fucking T-Shirts
baronvonchunk 1 year ago
Che Guevara is my hero. Gringos cabrones
milo333100 1 year ago
@milo333100
You're ignorant, you say a rational man is your hero yet you resort to racism, which in it's very nature is irrational.
HiTEqMETHOD 1 year ago
@HiTEqMETHOD ok mami i love you
milo333100 1 year ago
@HiTEqMETHOD ok mami i love you give me your ass
milo333100 1 year ago
@milo333100
lol, you're a complete idiot who's obviously just trolling.
HiTEqMETHOD 1 year ago
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020272OLGA 1 year ago
@020272OLGA
You created another random account, remedial.
HiTEqMETHOD 1 year ago
omg benicio del toro is so fineeee I LOVE y0UUUUUUUU!!!
MegaDaniboo 1 year ago
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FanClubSince1987 1 year ago
Che was a mass murderer. Plain and simple. He was responsible for artists, authors, and poets being killed just for doing what they loved. He helped turn Cuba into a communist dictatorship that people are so desperate to leave that they risk their lives and the lives of their families by riding makeshift rafts across an ocean to get to a capitalist society. Now you idiot liberals want to turn us into commies.......Fuck all you commie loving fucks...
Jazepentz 1 year ago
@Jazepentz Learn history before you talk !. How ignorant you are..
linareggio 1 year ago
@linareggio I'm not the one worshipping a communist serial murderer....YOU are the ignorant one....
Jazepentz 1 year ago
@Jazepentz i love these kind of argument because ur just the exact same! il take it as your american for starters. so che was a communist serial murderer?that makes nearly every US president a capitalist serial murderer then! vietnam all those poor peolpe killed from bombing campaigns,all those poor iraqi folk been blown out of it for a bit of oil.capitalists make me sick!cause my country has being ravaged by british imperialism for 800 years! and id say capitalism has killed more than communism
mufcstokesy 1 year ago
@mufcstokesy i'm agree fully with you. It's good to find a good and short comment against capitalism. Where are you from? I'm from Argentina.
santi183 1 year ago
@santi183 where i look back at the comment it was pretty long! im irish by the way! james connolly is my hero, just like che is to you
mufcstokesy 1 year ago
Che was gay.
SpikeLee3000 1 year ago
del toro jugo un sucio personaje en cin city.pero sin dudas el mas puerco y odioso papel jugado sera ese de che guevara de la sarna.
ARMANDURIA 1 year ago
If you understand who Che was and believe him to be good, that just means you're evil.
cleatusjr 1 year ago
People keep stating how the U.S is so anti-cuba and anti-communism. They supported Batista's regime when he was in power, and he was murdering people left, right and centre. When Fidel took power, the first thing the U.S did was try to reach an aggreemant with Castro, because the multi million dollar company, United Fruit, required Cuba to be opressed as to not share too much profit. They were only anti-Castro when Fidel and Che told them where to go, and thats when they decided to invade.
KurtCobain198666 1 year ago
Benicio - on of the greatest actors of our time, Che - greatest hero and person of 20th century!
bulavo 1 year ago
TWO movies? Pay twice to see essentially one movie?
Now that's capitalism at it's best/worst. A movie about an anti-capitalist that in reality reflects the exact greed of capitalism that Che fought... ironic and sad.
How can communism have a leader??
@CIA182- so did Hitler.
@WhiteKnightArmour- I would say there are as many corrupt capitalists as anything else in the world. The system of capitalism is completely corrupt and deceitful... the two keys ingredients to success...unfortunately.
interstaffing 1 year ago