The ending of this episode is amazing. After the worst first day she could have Ainsleyt comes into work and 'Toby Sam and Josh decorated her office with Gilbert and Sullivan and played He's an Englishman.
The question you should be asking, jokr, is why those who are lucky enough to be fabulously rich should pay a lower percentage in taxes then you who presumably busts your ass at work.
And tell me..where was your concern for the deficit when the Republicans, who I presume you're a member of, were the ones creating about 70% of it? You know..with those wars and those tax cuts to the rich.
Because a country is not a private home. If you had to pay for your own defense, feed others besides yourself, provide medical care for others besides yourself, do the thousands of things and provide the thousands of services that a government does for infrastructure, you wouldn't be able to balance your home budget either. How do you know your fellow citizens haven't "put for THEIR best effort?" The entire country suffers when budgets are balanced on the backs of those who can't afford it.
Forget the "balancing of the budget." Every time I hear that I know whose back the budget is going to be balanced on. Every state that has had that stupid amendment put into its constitution has suffered from unmitigated fiscal disaster, my state of North Carolina being a prime example. You want to balance the budget raise revenue from those who can most afford it.
@jokr8790 TAlk about misguided. Why should someone who has worked their butt off pay for those who haven't put forth THEIR best effort. I balance my home budget and do not spend more then I take in - stop me if I sound out of line.
The one I liked was when Sam fires the turkeys. The bigoted, "keep them pregnant and in the kitchen" men who should have never been given any power what so ever.
I envy you that. I wish our freaking politicians, particularly Democrats, would go through the box set, particularly the first four years, they could LEARN something.
@jokr8790 - yes, isn't this a great example of what we need now. Bipartisan solutions, compromise, with the result being a balanced budget, elimination of our deficit and restructuring of our banking and financial systems.
This show was so far up its own ass. Anyone who believes high government is filled with witty cultural references, intelligent bipartisan banter, and idealists who take pay cuts for "honor" are fooling themselves.
@ramonalejandrosuare No one 'believes high government is filled with witty cultural references, intelligent bipartisan banter, and idealists who take pay cuts for "honor"'. However, I like to think that many people agree with me that it should be.
@ramonalejandrosuare I think the point of the WW was it represented the idea of an ideal form of US government rather than a reflection of reality. An aspiration.
@ramonalejandrosuare Then you missed the point. Contrary to popular belief, there are intellgent, articulate people from both sides of the aisle who are dedicated public servants. While you and I may not see eye to eye with them politically or ideologically, nevertheless they are in our goverment. Credit Mr.Sorkin for his writing and the actors for their portrayals which made "The West Wing" compelling to watch.
@DAngelo136 Sorkin wrote glorified political porn for liberal audiences. I prefer my political dramas to be far more realistic and less pretentious. Watch a show like the Wire and tell me you could ever buy this show's BS.
@ramonalejandrosuare Having lived in a neigborhood as depicted in "The Wire", yes there are many aspects that are spot on, and many that are not. Theres also limits to what is accepted on network TV and what's allowed on HBO in terms of graphic violence, language and subject matter. Having experienced both realities both take great licence with "reality". Not everybody from B'more is in the drug trade and not everybody in the WH are partisan hacks. TV is not reality. Reality is quite dull.
@DAngelo136 I don't think its the profanity or violence which made the Wire great but the fact that unlike WW it never took the easy way out and made morally complicated characters compromised by their institutions. WW is like some fantasy where the liberal-idealists always win against cynical opportunists (with the exception of a token principled conservative like Emily) at the end of the day. And yes not everyone in B-more is a dealer, if you thought that's the Wire's point you missed it.
@grumpytosnowwhite It's funny, if you look at the first episode with Oliver Platt as Babbish (Bad Moon Rising), you can kinda hear that the dialogue was written for Larroquette. I guess they couldn't get him back for those episodes, but the written lines in Platt's first episode definitely sound more like they were meant for Tribbey, right down to the cricket bat smashing the Dictaphone (changed to a gavel for Babbish).
@tyranusfan True. I guess they had planned for Larroquette to stay on as a recurring character for a while, since they developed him so well and made him so funny and awesome in this episode. This episode was probably intentionally meant to pre-establish his character for the M.S. investigation arc, but then they had to change their plans and kind of morph Tribbey into Babbish. Oh well, Oliver Platt was fucking awesome as Babbish, so I can't actually complain :)
I think I've said this in other WW video comment areas but I'll say it here as well.
If I could watch every episode EVER over the course of 1-3 months and type onto individual sheets of paper EVERY statement that ANYONE makes that gets me thinking about how insightful or argumentative that statement is in MY HEAD I could fill 200 pages or more from top to bottom.
Hell, I could fill 5 pages alone with any 1 of 10 different episodes.
I miss Lionel. Oliver does a fine job later, and he was probably a better character to have in place during the MS debacle, but you have to wonder what judicious use of the cricket bat Lionel would have employed on staffers during the questioning.
Not speaking in iambic pentameter!! The funniest line ever in existence. I literally burst out laughing, with a big baudy BAH HAHA, I sounded like someone out of G&S. Hee hee
I love this scene. Emily Procter was amazing on this show. I think the best scene she did was when she was dancing in her office in a bath robe and the president walks in. That was a classic.
aren't they all about duty?
ResonanceSD 1 month ago
jkirin-I think you're mistaking me for bida1111. If you think I'M a rethuglican you're profoundly mistaken!
jokr8790 2 months ago
Heh, duty in an American accent. Sounds so funny.
SMHJL 3 months ago
or perhaps italian????
CampJoJo 3 months ago
The ending of this episode is amazing. After the worst first day she could have Ainsleyt comes into work and 'Toby Sam and Josh decorated her office with Gilbert and Sullivan and played He's an Englishman.
babytweeze85 5 months ago
I wish a lot of congressmen and women could see this video and put aside partisanship regardless of personal ideology.
jillyb85 5 months ago
The question you should be asking, jokr, is why those who are lucky enough to be fabulously rich should pay a lower percentage in taxes then you who presumably busts your ass at work.
And tell me..where was your concern for the deficit when the Republicans, who I presume you're a member of, were the ones creating about 70% of it? You know..with those wars and those tax cuts to the rich.
JKirien 5 months ago
Because a country is not a private home. If you had to pay for your own defense, feed others besides yourself, provide medical care for others besides yourself, do the thousands of things and provide the thousands of services that a government does for infrastructure, you wouldn't be able to balance your home budget either. How do you know your fellow citizens haven't "put for THEIR best effort?" The entire country suffers when budgets are balanced on the backs of those who can't afford it.
jokr8790 5 months ago
@jokr8790 Why does a rich person have more on a obligation to fund the government then someone who has less money.
Do they get more services from the government then someone who isn't rich.
The entire country suffers when some people (people who aren't rich) think they can make other people(the rich) to pay for what ever they want.
bornbillsmith 2 weeks ago
personally,i like Kelsey Grammar's version of the song from the Simpsons ;)
chrisbrown456 6 months ago
"They're all about duty!"
LOL!!!!
PeterFormaini 6 months ago
Forget the "balancing of the budget." Every time I hear that I know whose back the budget is going to be balanced on. Every state that has had that stupid amendment put into its constitution has suffered from unmitigated fiscal disaster, my state of North Carolina being a prime example. You want to balance the budget raise revenue from those who can most afford it.
jokr8790 7 months ago
@jokr8790 TAlk about misguided. Why should someone who has worked their butt off pay for those who haven't put forth THEIR best effort. I balance my home budget and do not spend more then I take in - stop me if I sound out of line.
Bida1111 5 months ago
The one I liked was when Sam fires the turkeys. The bigoted, "keep them pregnant and in the kitchen" men who should have never been given any power what so ever.
Songsmirth 7 months ago
I envy you that. I wish our freaking politicians, particularly Democrats, would go through the box set, particularly the first four years, they could LEARN something.
jokr8790 7 months ago
Ainsley: "You're sending me up the majority counsel's office because I speak Republican?"
Tribby: "Yes."
jokr8790 7 months ago
@jokr8790 - yes, isn't this a great example of what we need now. Bipartisan solutions, compromise, with the result being a balanced budget, elimination of our deficit and restructuring of our banking and financial systems.
njiuma 7 months ago
i just spentthe last 4 months at sea so went through the WW boxset. Gotta love it!
turnersean 8 months ago
I liked the Ashley character. Integrity.
effyleven 9 months ago
@effyleven I mean Ainsley. Botheration!
effyleven 9 months ago
This show was so far up its own ass. Anyone who believes high government is filled with witty cultural references, intelligent bipartisan banter, and idealists who take pay cuts for "honor" are fooling themselves.
ramonalejandrosuare 9 months ago
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@ramonalejandrosuare No one 'believes high government is filled with witty cultural references, intelligent bipartisan banter, and idealists who take pay cuts for "honor"'. However, I like to think that many people agree with me that it should be.
gjm1953 9 months ago
@ramonalejandrosuare I think the point of the WW was it represented the idea of an ideal form of US government rather than a reflection of reality. An aspiration.
kdum8 9 months ago 3
@ramonalejandrosuare It's still nice to hold a high standard. Perhaps this show will inspire intelligent bipartisans and idealists to join politics.
nimechan 8 months ago
@ramonalejandrosuare Then you missed the point. Contrary to popular belief, there are intellgent, articulate people from both sides of the aisle who are dedicated public servants. While you and I may not see eye to eye with them politically or ideologically, nevertheless they are in our goverment. Credit Mr.Sorkin for his writing and the actors for their portrayals which made "The West Wing" compelling to watch.
DAngelo136 8 months ago
@DAngelo136 Sorkin wrote glorified political porn for liberal audiences. I prefer my political dramas to be far more realistic and less pretentious. Watch a show like the Wire and tell me you could ever buy this show's BS.
ramonalejandrosuare 8 months ago
@ramonalejandrosuare Having lived in a neigborhood as depicted in "The Wire", yes there are many aspects that are spot on, and many that are not. Theres also limits to what is accepted on network TV and what's allowed on HBO in terms of graphic violence, language and subject matter. Having experienced both realities both take great licence with "reality". Not everybody from B'more is in the drug trade and not everybody in the WH are partisan hacks. TV is not reality. Reality is quite dull.
DAngelo136 8 months ago
@DAngelo136 I don't think its the profanity or violence which made the Wire great but the fact that unlike WW it never took the easy way out and made morally complicated characters compromised by their institutions. WW is like some fantasy where the liberal-idealists always win against cynical opportunists (with the exception of a token principled conservative like Emily) at the end of the day. And yes not everyone in B-more is a dealer, if you thought that's the Wire's point you missed it.
ramonalejandrosuare 8 months ago
Both of these characters shouldv appeared more :)
WillPG1212 10 months ago
Because I speak Republican?
DariaBerstell 10 months ago 3
Any advice you could give, would be, by me, appreciated.
gmdohiorep 1 year ago
@2:22 Fart :-)
HomercidalOne 1 year ago
@HomercidalOne hahahaha :P
turnersean 1 year ago
"Prime4571", One of my siblings has all 7 years on Boxed set but some of the discs are scattered all over the place from constant viewing.
nudist0885 1 year ago
"Well, not speaking in iambic pentameter might be a step in the right direction..."
BklynBruzer 1 year ago 13
can't find the Tribbey cricket bat scene, wish it was on youtube
davidtjohnson 1 year ago
They're all about duty....:)
paulakareg 1 year ago 7
iambic pentameterr pmsl!!
SToyaholic 1 year ago 4
Never did like John Lar. but he was OK in this show.
crimdell 2 years ago
notice the slight look of shock on ainsley's face when she hears herself say, i felt a sense of duty.
lennybaseball 2 years ago 6
I really wish Tribbey appeared more often. He was an awesome character.
grumpytosnowwhite 2 years ago 62
@grumpytosnowwhite It's funny, if you look at the first episode with Oliver Platt as Babbish (Bad Moon Rising), you can kinda hear that the dialogue was written for Larroquette. I guess they couldn't get him back for those episodes, but the written lines in Platt's first episode definitely sound more like they were meant for Tribbey, right down to the cricket bat smashing the Dictaphone (changed to a gavel for Babbish).
tyranusfan 1 month ago
@tyranusfan True. I guess they had planned for Larroquette to stay on as a recurring character for a while, since they developed him so well and made him so funny and awesome in this episode. This episode was probably intentionally meant to pre-establish his character for the M.S. investigation arc, but then they had to change their plans and kind of morph Tribbey into Babbish. Oh well, Oliver Platt was fucking awesome as Babbish, so I can't actually complain :)
grumpytosnowwhite 1 month ago
I think I've said this in other WW video comment areas but I'll say it here as well.
If I could watch every episode EVER over the course of 1-3 months and type onto individual sheets of paper EVERY statement that ANYONE makes that gets me thinking about how insightful or argumentative that statement is in MY HEAD I could fill 200 pages or more from top to bottom.
Hell, I could fill 5 pages alone with any 1 of 10 different episodes.
nudist0885 2 years ago 3
@nudist0885 do yourself a favour, if you haven't already buy the box set and watch it back to back. So many memories.
Prime4571 1 year ago
"It wasn't out of duty ?"
Yep, got him with that one ! Well done Ainsley. Don't you just love a girl with "spunk" ?
What a great character. Missed, like all of them !
plasteredleg1 2 years ago
I miss Lionel. Oliver does a fine job later, and he was probably a better character to have in place during the MS debacle, but you have to wonder what judicious use of the cricket bat Lionel would have employed on staffers during the questioning.
rugbynimbus 2 years ago 5
Not speaking in iambic pentameter!! The funniest line ever in existence. I literally burst out laughing, with a big baudy BAH HAHA, I sounded like someone out of G&S. Hee hee
KateLouise 2 years ago 6
he's an englishman is from pinafore (:
mariahsupial1627 2 years ago
I love this scene. Emily Procter was amazing on this show. I think the best scene she did was when she was dancing in her office in a bath robe and the president walks in. That was a classic.
miniCSI 2 years ago 51
@miniCSI Was it because the scene of getting caught dancing was so original?
jimbojamesIV 1 year ago
Terrific scene.
meredithchandler73 2 years ago 3
"Not speaking in iambic pentametre might be a step in the right direction."
lol! :D
gronow189 3 years ago 9
Ha ha! I always loved that line!
LAquarius08 2 years ago
love the way that Ainsley talks, she is scared at first, then gets braver. love her a lot!
DuCaineFan 3 years ago 8
Agreed. And i wish Tribbey had stayed... Babbish was ok but i think Tribbey would have been more fun to watch during the whole 'election fraud' saga.
DarqueStar 3 years ago 4
OH MY GOODNESS I can't agree more!!! you are so right!!! Lionel Tribbey was a really entertaining character!!!
MilanWisteria 3 years ago 3