@vinman1029 this guy is an idot!! there is such thing as a paddle shifted automatic z06 dummy you order it through lingenfelter dumb ass, there was one looked almost exactly like this one at my shop serial number 001 from lingenfelter.....@vinman1029 just quit speaking and keep looking on your fourms dumbass
@vinman1029 you are so full of shit they NEVER made an automatic z06 NONE,NADA TIPOTHA NIENTE which language do you understand????????If YOU DONT KNOW ABOUT A SUBJECT THEN KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT.i HATE bullshiters.There are no z06 s made in automatic from the company.Now get in your focus and go far away....Moron.
@camirocz Hey fucktard,maybe you should shut your hole.You sound like a bench racer.My friend had one and it wasn't special order.Better yet,search for automatic z06 on here,that should shut you up.
@vinman1029 fuck you you idiot there is no such a thing a special order anything anymore get out of the seventies g.m.never produced an automatic z06 any year whatsoever from 2001 to 2012!!!!!!!Google it and you ll see.Stop making up bullshit you asshole.
@Jimbo5123 Why are you asking that???? Youre a fucking greenpeace or what? If someones like to drag I really dont think hes gonna get a car with a good fuel consumption in mind.......stop bothering them with your fucking yaris and echo please, they're just good to go shopping.
@iceman241111 Where to start with this idiotic comment. 1; The atom is a damn gocart that costs 40k 2: EBAY Haha 3: It doesn't even have a damn roof on it you can buy a motorcycle that will seat two and run faster times for a lot less money. 4: The Z a FULL body car with AC a stereo and an actual roof on it gets 25+ so the atom actually sucks at gas mileage. 5: WTF was the point in your comment anyway? 6: GMC laughs at companies like Arial... enough said.
Yeah, all other things being equal an OHC engine would make about the same amount of power. One of the problems with a pushrod engine is clearance in the heads for the pushrods which usually cuts down on intake size. The LSX motors changed that by going to a tall skinny port. Generally the lack of torque from an OHC motor is because it's smaller displacment and aimed at more top end power.
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and i shouldnt even have to mention that the GM zr1s were made in the early 90s you cant compare that to an engine developed 2 years ago. and the ford gt motor is supercharged so you cant bring anything with boost into a discussion about NA motors. Esp when talking about cams because boost becomes the focus not the cam.
The ls7 has decent low end torque but great high end power because it, like all race cars, are designed for high rpm use. Name any other v8 that revs to 7k and is making more torque than hp NA. Another advantage of an OHV engine is its simplicity in making more horsepower. Its really simple, one cam. And with titanium rods, as you would see if you did research on the companies that are designing cams for these engines.. theyre gaining at least 75 rwhp and not damaging the titanium rods.
It is true that the 427's thin aluminum cylinder walls have special steel sleves for strength, but still it is not really set up for forced air.
Besides, once you hit 650 or 700 HP, you get major traction problems and have to mini-tub it anyway. My stock Z06 with it's 505 HP has traction problems right now, in first. Even in second gear (on cold days).
Any car that has 700 HP or more will start breaking. I see the 1000 HP Supras on YouTube, but there engines blow up all the time.
The Z06 does have thin cylinder walls in its 427. Therefore, forced air is not recomended. A slight cam and bigger intake and other bolt-ons can make easy HP for it, but it is not advisable to go over say 650 HP.
You can run 6 PSI of boost with an SC on a Z06, but that is a slight risk thanks to those cylinder walls...it will reduce engine life. However, SC and turbo reduces ANY engines life.
hey gigaminion, u should really keep yourself updated cause back in october the zr1 ran a new 7:22.4 lap on the ring... 3 tenths off the ACRs 7:22.1 time so bfore you start saying what cars belongs where u should get your facts straight first...
i'm a domestic fan as well. so don't think i'm being a fan boy about it. but this vid is just clear bullshit, i had to comment on this one.
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You say that the zr1's lap time isn't 7:22 because dodge and gm don't use professional drivers. That makes no damn sense because if they don't, then why is does zr1 have a official lap time of 7:26.4?
and it's funny. you say that the zr1 could've gone lower. Its run was near perfect. but you say they don't use pro drivers, unlike nissan.
so that's most likely the reason why nissan gtr came so close to the fastest run done by zr1. Maybe because the driver of the gtr actually knows how to fuckin drive, unlike people who drive the zr1 or acr. You have no proof of the gtr not being capable of handling up to 600hp. But i do. JDM gtr's are recorded at 520BHP. dumbass.
No proof of what? Porsche tried to obtain the same time that the gtr had by purchasing their own and they never came close.
I think your the real dumbass here. Why dont you move to a place where they worship Japanese cars and hate on American cars, like say Japan?
Yes, people are modding the new gtr like crazy nowadays. There are even downloads to the gtr's computer to increase hp and torque by almost 100. But I have been to Nissan dealerships that HAVE voided warrantys coz of launch control.
porsche has used a usdm gtr. There's a difference between the two, the 0-60mph time and power difference are both great examples. USDM did a 2.5 and jdm did a 3.2. usdm puts out 475hp at the crank, jdm puts out 520bhp at the wheels. The JDM gtr did the nurburgring in 7:29. You're overall someone that i'm not even arguing with actually. I'm just toying around with your stupidity. It's quite funny. Keep in mind that the warranty is only voided when it is abused or damage is done while using it.
No, your the blind fool here. Thru your biasness u ignore the gtrs that actually have had their warranties voided (although I admit they aren't that many). U can go ahead and laugh at urself because ur biased argument wont work against me.
If you turn off the VDC (Vehicle Dynamic Control) too often, Nissan will not honor your warranty if something breaks. The LC requires the VDC to be turned off and you can then run 0-60 times of 3.4 seconds. Otherwise u'll be in the high threes.
haha, well i'm not really in the arguing mood. I'm not a biased person. You can call me one but go on. I had enough arguing, it's the same thing over and over again, nothing accomplished. lol
You got the right idea though. Let me copy and paste what you said.
"VDC (Vehicle Dynamic Control) too often, Nissan will not honor your warranty if something breaks. The LC requires the VDC to be turned off and you can then run 0-60 times of 3.4 seconds"
Hey Check out the you tube video ZR1 drag race king and "ZR1 smokes GTR". Although not a SPEC V. The ZR1 smoked not only the GTR but the lighter GT2 with 530 BHP and the 612 BHP Ferrari 599. Those other 2 cars beat the GTR too, with ZR1 1ST. 70 BHP helps but,it's biggest asset is AWD!! Just like the EVO; beyond 60', without AWD, or the ZR1 with slicks and SPEC V is like any other car. I like the SPEC V/GTR also but don't think it's enough with only 485 WHEEL HP. With lighter cars and 530+ rwhp
The ZR1 doesnt smoke the ferrari in the quarter mile. Straight line they are evenly matched, ferrari is faster to 60, zr1 1 tenth faster in the 1/4 mile, which then pulls ahead for awhile, followed by the ferrari pulling ahead at higher speeds. In a race to 200 mph Im sure the ferrari would win. Put the drag slicks on the 599, I wanna see what it will do.
Hey, you maybe correct up to 60mph. However, beyond that it's a ZR1 Race. I don't know if you have seen it or not. Put "ZR1 Drag Race King" in the youtube search window. Motor Trend, Professional Drivers, ZR1, 599, GT2, GTR. ZR1 smokes them all!
its amazing how the shit talkers that are hating on the corvette dont even know the basics about cars. They just say general things like the corvette sucks or they look at the times that a gtr or corvette get on the track.
So the corvette sucks huh?
Can u guys back up ur claims with actual facts instead of lies plz?
chev is a powerful car but cavemen technology. There is an all aluminum big block engine, in a small car, that's all. Their compression ratio is lower than your average honda. And more comparison, the vette makes 72.2 hp/liter. a h22as makes 97.7 hp/liter. Vette is 67.14 lb-ft/liter and the h22as is 72.54 lb-ft/liter. Over all, the corvette is far from impressive. Now the GTR? I can say strait up, the Corvette has nothing against a gtr other than a strait which it barely makes it. Disagree?
first of all, hp/L is ricer math. 2nd, the LS7 is a 427 small block, not a big block. 3rd of all, what would any sane person own, a stock c6z06 or a stock honda, if you were given either one...gee i wonder. and that caveman tech has showed to be one of the most proven platforms.
wow, you can count? You must feel so proud of yourself. there's no such thing as ricer math, just shows how much a ls7 stacks up against other engines. I compared it to a h22as and it didn't fare so well. A stock c6zo6 or a stock honda? You go spend 70K on a c6z06 and i'll spend 5k on my honda. then i'll put 65k into it. Your vette wouldn't stand a chance from day one.
as for the caveman tech thing, it just goes to show that what you're paying for can be done and made for cheap shit, not 70K.
no shit you can do something for cheaper and make it faster. goddamnit i swear some people give import fans the rep they have. HP/lb actually a more meaningful statistic, since it takes in the whole factor of the car + motor. sure your engine is impressive for what it is, but ill take an LS7 over whatever it was, h22. and if youd like to, run some numbers like you did on a C5R motor, over 900hp from 427ci, which is more than 2hp/ci. also, its readily available as a crate engine to buy.
hmmm, you are right on one thing. hp/lb is a more useful term but i was describing the engine itself. Oh, and if you're talking about a c5r sledgehammer vette or w/e it is. then ok, go take a look at the vielside supra. more hp than a hennessey viper even. oh wait, it's a 3 liter.
Well, let's put things on similar playing fields. Let's look at this H22 vs LS7 again. I don't know what this H22 is but I do know it's got to be either a 4 or 6 cyl. Now, the only way a H22 can even be close is to be F.I. (turbo) Now back in the old caveman era 8 cylinders ruled. Now put the turbo on the 8cylinders. Guess what? They will once again rule. Such as they did with the ZR1 Vette. There is nothing faster than a ZR1 and have a standard 3/36 warranty. GTR you say? Wrong answer try again
Jdm Gtr V-spec will take out a zr1 vette. regular jdm gtrs sold versions in japan with over 520bhp which the zr1 didn't touch, imagine what the v spec will put out. Also, the zr1's ls9 is a pretty cool ls9 but it's not turbocharged. it's twin screw/whipple supercharged which was pretty useful considering the fact that it is the most efficient super charger, also my favorite. the h22a is a I4. modifications are cheaper, reliability is better, they're over all very dynamic engines.
yr an ignorant little dude ya know. Think about it. The v-spec is gonna be about 700 lbs lighter. and it's gonna have even more bhp. numbers around 550hp are to be expected in the USDM. The Jdm will have even more than that. The zr1 struggled to defeat a factory stock JDM gtr in every competition that the JDM GTR stepped up to. So imagine what a JDM v-spec will do to the zr1, other than blow the shit off the track. If you ask me, the zr1 doesn't even deserve to be on the same track.
keep in mind that they had to use drag radials for the z06 in order for it to clock that time. originally. a z06 is .3 faster than a gtr. For a car 700 lbs lighter. 3.2 more liters. 2 more pistons. and smaller over all, that's really not impressive. the v-spec will be 700 lbs lighter than the regular gtr. So that's enough to probably even put it .3 faster than your regular z06. Do you even know why the z06 is even here?
dude, the z06 has a naturally aspirated engine and the gtr has twin-turbos planted on its 3.8ltr engine. Put twin turbos on a 7.0 or even supercharge it, and u will see some serious power.
Who are you, some endorser for nissan?
Take your jap crap car with the faulty transmission elsewhere.
If you want reliability and to be able to mod a car with over 1000 horses then get the z06.
ok go on, take your supercharger. what ever you want. Mean while i'll go add another 2 more pistons and 3.2 liters to a gtr and see that i don't burn a vette off the track. I bet you don't even know anything about the transmission. and reliability with 1000 horses in a z06? Go buy a stock z06. Bow some push rods and hear every valve rattle. then you can come to me with that bullshit about a faulty transmission.
P.S.
Lingenfelter TT gave 2 or 3 runs to 200mph. failed all, something broke on it.
If you are looking for a drag or road race car there are things you will want to upgrade to handle the extra abuse the car will take.
The gtr can't handle more than 600 hp, it has been proven. The faulty jap crap tranny will fuck up. At least with a z06, you have the capability to raise the hp to over 1000 and completely wipe gtr's ass on the streets.
Funny how people think you could easily add hp to engines. The point is, any attempt to raise the gtr's hp will lead to disaster=>transmission.
so you're wrong about the faulty transmission. It was an internet rumor by the way. Nissan is voiding it mainly because your bitch ass started a dramatic rumor that's messing with production sales. Thanks you bitch ass. Also, i saw a vette not even making 700 that blew up on the dyno. Cylinder walls are too thin. And even if the vette had that much power it will still be dominated. Did you forget about traction? yr not all that smart are you?
no asshole. It's funny how you think the whole racing world is on youtube.
Since your gonna talk about reliability why don't i mention the fact that there are so many corvettes on the road with over 250,000 miles. They are reliable cars. If uve ever been on the drag strip, what are the most kind of cars you see? Mustangs but also, strangely enough, a large amount of corvettes.
do you know what i think? obviously not because you're just as dumb as sylvia fuckin brown as of now. If i go to the drag strip, i see a bunch of shit actually. Including hondas blowing head gaskets, vettes breaking differentials or putting rods through their block or reving to a point of bowing the pushrods. I'm actually a ford guy, you can get it from everyone that talks to me. but you're just a disgrace.
no you make no sense thinking that the whole racing world is on youtube. Idk what kind of vettes your looking at on the track, but after witnessing so many turboed and supercharged vettes, id have to say that they are very reliable cars.
hey, ur the one who started dissing, dont be a biased dickhead
Hey, i've already proved my point. The subject is settled and done. But i want to see what runs through your head. I'm a DOHC guy so i'm getting a 281 4 valve. Yes it's a crown vic so i'm gonna get it for taxi. Going around the place for public transportation when off the job. think about it, under the table money. The money used to modify it. I'm already checking into 5.4 blocks. so lets go tackle your interest. What do you think of fords Modular engines??
and once again. there is a video under my favorites that you can go check for yourself showing a true owner of it reading the warranty booklet for you. No where on the warranty booklet does it directly state that if you use lc you will void your warranty. If that's the case then they wouldn't advertise a 3.5 second 0-60 mph time. it's false advertisement if it voids the warranty. But wait, using lc they done it in a JDM gtr in 3.2.
it doesn't have to say it on the warranty booklet. Almost every car nowadays has a computer that the dealers check to see what has been done. This black box cant be bypassed unless you say screw it and void your warranty. But with Nissan doing that, I'd have to say screw the warranty after a while and yank that black box out.
If it doesn't say it on the warranty booklet, and the subject here is the "WARRANTY" where else would it be? I don't like the black box either. If i got a gtr i'm voiding the warranty anyway. I'm taking the shit out. But that only tells when the lc was used. if problems with the car date back to a time when lc was used and the jap engineers can determine whether or not the damages were done while using launch control, that's when they void the warranty. other than that, you can use it whenever.
the regular gtr is in the 75K range. why are they being sold around 85? those are the premium packages and so on. It's like the grandsport of vette or some shit like that.
But it's ok if it's off topic because so was the debate. Is there a gtr? v6? 4wd? twin turbo? foreign car, on this vid? no
But there is a v8, domestic, Rwd, simple, pushrod, small block, aluminum 428 in here right?
So lets talk domestics. Just for the joy of it. You know any of ford?
Uh oh. I use to be an import guy but the mustangs were easy to modify. the modular engines were damn bullet proof. Fuckin cylinder walls are thick. Is it a 4 valve? I'm getting into the modular engines being that they're just about the most popular. Stuff like the 351, never really was my thing.
i think its a 2 valve. Yeah they're the number 1 cars for the drag strips nowadays. I havent really got into modding mine because i still have warranty on it. It must be 3 valves per cylinder. Must be a 4 valve head, not too sure.
I talk to this dude on my profile (toofastfortransam) has a stang. just put kenne bell, air intake, and x pipes. makin about 750 at the wheels. Stock bottom end. That's what motivated me actually. I like the 4 valve for durability and the look of the valve covers strange enough. I'm looking into a 5.4 aluminum swap already, haha. Being that they're modular engines, i can just move the shit off the 4.6 to the 5.4, you go to kb?
the crown vic i'm checkin into, is actually a interceptor which is quite useful. When i get it, i don't want it to bee too damn slow, lol. The only thing it really needs is a different color carpet and different seats. Everything is surprisingly clean in it. Then repaint it because that bird shit white isn't quite the thing i want to "roll" with. I'd rather black leather interior and black paint. kinda like a taxi. After the basics are done, i'll mod it.
Yes you hear some lifter noise with pushrod engines..but that is the tradeoff for more TORQUE. Cant get that kind of torque from overhead cam engines. Add to that , that if a Z06 is DONE RIGHT, it can make well over 1200 HP with no problems at all.
.... How does having single cam pushrod engines contribute to having more torque? I can tell you one thing right away and that's that the z06 engine internals are heavier than most other engine internals to start off with so they already have more potential energy and once that starts spinning as the engine fires up, it's harder to stop it which means it has more torque but overall the engine being a pushrod will not affect its torque.
I personally thought they the worlds fastest cars are the jet dragsters which don't use pushrod, they use Turbofan.
Drag racing is a damn near all american sport. but if you put 8000 hp or even 12000 hp in any engine, don't you think it will run pretty fast? Being that the pushrod is the american engine, it's quite understandable that a damn near all american sport like drag racing is gonna have pushrod engines omnipresent.
Wrong. If dragsters could get more power from an overhead cam, they would do it. They are always looking for a way to shave off seconds. The fastest one's are now at 2.9 seconds in the quarter which has got them almost as far as they can go without the use of a G-suit for the driver so they wont pass out.
The advantages of having a dual over cam engine over a push rod or engine are that the dual over head cam uses less moving parts. Which makes it simpler and much more durable being that there are now 4 cams on the engine. If you have a dual over head cam, the only moving parts are the cams and they are pushing down on the valve retainers. If you use pushrod, the single cam has to push up on a pushrod, then that pushrod has to connect to a rocker arm, then that rocker arm connects to the valve
see, let me give you an example. a ford 4.6 DOHC. they're basically a power house right? it's an american dual over head cam engine and to be honest with you, fords modular family is virtually the only line of engines that can take 3 times their power without even breaking a stock rod. They're dual overhead cam setup comes making more torque than horse power, however the 7 liter z06 engine makes more horse power than torque. How do you explain that?
How do I explain that? Because the LS7 engine is setup for both torque and HP. But I should be more specific...the overhead valve (pushorod) engine has better "bottom-end torque". So they get out of the hole faster...which is why funny cars and 3.5 second dragsters use overhead valve
the ls7 is set up for both hp and torque you say. well i agree. it's a high performance engine that costs like 16K. but you say that it uses pushrod because they develop better bottom end torque. Hmm. Toyota set out a new 5.7 in their crew max truck. not expensive. it's a DOHC. not a pushrod, however it makes more torque than a all the N/A 5.7 ZR1's that gm has ever made. It makes more torque, much faster, at a much lower RPM. Why is that? Oh, then compare a ford gt 5.4 4V DOHC to the z06 LS7.
at high rpms, the pushrods tend to bend and flex, which causes them to bow. If you have that then it can fuck up the entire valve train. However with a ohc or a dohc, you won't have that problem because there are no push rods. on top of that, if you take a look at corvette history, even in the 1968 24 hour lemans, vettes broke down because of a broken cam. One cam is powering 16 valves where as in a dohc v8 has 4 cams, each powering 8. much more durable. More than twice as durable actually.
Couple of problems with OHC engines. First, they cannot get the same bottom end torque that a pushrod can get...and second, they require more space under the hood and dont they run hotter? ANd break downs? Corvette engines are known for ultra reliability and duribility. Most Lemans races the Vettes win...and they wouldnt if they broke down a lot.
Oh, ignore xoxoJaziGxoxo. I forgot to sign off her profile.
and p.s. yea that zr1 can beat a crew max pickup truck. the truck weighs much more. however a modern day c6 z06 can not beat a ford gt. i did not say that a zo6 can't beat a gt 500. I compared N/A zr1's to the crew max 5.7 because it shows how corvette has to make a car that costs 80K with a engine making so much power and the first 5.7 v8 toyota does is a DOHC that has even more power than the legendary pushrod zr1's 5.7.
2010 SpecV stats, 480hp/470ftlb- i think they shaved 300lbs so its around 3500lbs now, more carbon fiber, no back seats, price 170Kusd, we'll just have to wait and see what it can do, and i dont think its coming here to the US, the pricing is actually 15m yen
Hey man, what about TOYOTA or HONDA, that must stop the Formula one beacause they can't afford it anymore ? I live in Europe, I pay more taxes that US pay, I have to work for people that doesn't want to, because they are paid by the ASSEDICS with my money !!!! Do you think that it's better than US ????
The Z06 is the best value on the market, even if the GTR is maybe faster on a track, it would be very closed. I've seen a Z06 smoking a 997 GT3 on a track, a half second faster ! So it works very good...
lol your forgetting 1 important fact ... american cars suck! americans just cant build cars, yeah ok you can make cars go fast but they are unsafe and poorly built and cant go round corners!
HAHAHAHA, you should try to be more informed before speaking this, the new american cars are a far better now, the Corvette ZR-1 has made the best lap on the Ring, the Cadillac CTS-V is also the fastest V8 sedan on the Ring, and what ? These cars cost less than european production... Have you ever seen the Ferrari Enzo's interior ? It's poor plastics, shitty quality, poor built... and it costs 665 000 € !!!!!!
Hahaha, you suck, the ZR-1 is driven by chevy's engineers, not famous japan racers, just give the ZR-1 to Walter Röhrl and see what will happend... You're desperate, you have never driven the GT-R but I have, it's a poor shit that has more Hp than what it's claimed, but the one I've driven wasn't faster than my 2007 Z06... HAHAHAHAHA
all these years you have been paying car taxes in the US.There is a big reason why American car companies are in trouble in the market. now, cars companies in the US are begging for bail out saying they made mistakes. one real mistake was ignoring the japanese cars. you paid taxes so maybe you should go crying to domestic car companies to make better cars, unless you are a moron like the USDM car companies who ignored the Japanese cars for a long time.
It doesn't matter if you don't want to trust me man, I work with my father since I'm 17 years old, I make more money than you'll never have. Let speak people who know what they're talking about...
first of all how do you know what i have or dont have, secondly learn to speak properly,ill make more money than you ll never have is not proper english.I suggest you go and finish high school and then come back to this debate.
Bestman, what is a TT Z06? A twin turbo Z06? like a Lingenfelter? If so they can pull 9s in a quarter mile. Hell the C5 Z06 can pull a 11.7 stock. The best Porsches are RWD, F1 cars are RWD, BMWs are RWD the list goes on. All the GTR is a 3.5L bored out and 2 screws hooked into AWD, automatic not that impressive, it takes no skill to drive a GTR. Get your facts strait
Lol thebestman, a 997 Turbo can't beat a Z06... A stock Z06 does 11.8 seconds from 0-200 km/h, a 911 T needs 1 second more, like the GTR with his fat shity ass... Just take a look in magazines, the best times have been done by 520 Hp GTR, so a stock GTR will never beat a stock Z06 loooool.
Is it true the GTR on the "Ring" had a rolling start? Also the fastest quarter time for a stock Z06 is 10.98. It dose not take skill to dump it at 6k with AWD. All real sports cars are RWD.
And even if the GTR handles better, the Z06 can smoke a 997 GT3 on a track with a good driver, so it can take corners faster than a Porsche... You're always arguing with "claimed" times on the Ring by Nissan or pro-japanese tests, but have you ever driven a Z06 ?? I had a ride in a GTR (sold 90 000 €) in Luxembourg last month, and I can tell you that if the Z06 was an electronic shit like the GTR, it will not be as good as it is... Don't hurry, the 2009 Z06 will destroy your GTR on the ring...
Lol thebestman, a stock Z06 goes from 0 to 200 km/h in less than 12 seconds... Your fat shit of GTR needs 1 second more LoooooL... Go back to bed, it's a bad dream...
@thebestman. First of all, that twin turbo Z06 was a C5 corvette. So its a completely different car. Second this car has drag radials. Look at the trap speeds.. the TT Z06 traps at like 130mph, where this traps at 127mph, which means that the TT with more power is actually faster but this Z06 with the drag radials got a better launch. So it makes PERFECT sense buddy
yow!!!!!!! guys why are we arguing over 2 great cars. Obviously from a dig the GTR wins and from a roll z06 wins. Anything after that depends on mods done to the car.
yeah i agree, but there are alternate ways of making power, and engineering.
in that logic, why dont manufacturers just make V10s or V12s or V14s, or V16s or V20s.?
the reason the V8 has been around and great is because it is a very well known and mastered powerplant that Americans have been using for the longest time. but if u get down to scientifically, the ariel atom with a supercharged 4cyl honda engine is quicker than an enzo.
funny the gtr r35 already got it's ass spanked on youtube a z06. CORVETTE=A REAL PERFORMANCE CAR FOR OVER 50 YRS AND DOSEN'T HAVE TO PROVE ANYTHING TO A GTR.
the C5 gen was the first z06. and z06 is dying . zr1 is taking its place.
both great cars, but u z06 fans seem to feel a need to bash the GTR, why? maybe its because the car has so many fans, and the corvette has been trying so hard but only 50yr old men on rogaine drive them lol jk. i'd love a z06, but come on why the hate?
The GTR is nothing but a robot on wheels. Turn off all the electric stuff and it's about as worthless as a dodge viper on the track. The z06 isn't dying and neither is a regular vette.
yeah it's also called a zr-1. The z06 has beat the viper at every comparision even back 2001. corvette z06 has always been a excellent track car and the zr- is just amazing.
In conclusion they praise the vette so much because they never knew about the gtr on other side of the world. I completely understand why they love the vette more than gtr but the bottom line is that gtr would top the z06 and gtr35 vspec will spank the z06/zr1
when you drive either one, talk all that you want, but chances are you havent even driven a gtr35 or z06. forget a zr1 or vspec. I on the other hand have DRIVEN a c6z06 HARD and have been in an lp640 DRIVEN HARD, and let me tell you... the z06 isn't that far off. not bad for the naturally aspirated pushrod V8 that you can so easily talk down... and yea maybe the vspec MIGHT be able to beat the zr1. until multiple runs have been done with both cars on the nurbugring SHUT UP
the gtr is here... i just talked to the owner of one two days ago. it was in blacksburg virginia right outside of virginia tech. the guy said he was on a waiting list for seven months. and ya wanna hear something funny about the whole thing? he said he wasn't that impressed so far. i thought it looked really cool, personally, but his complaint was that driving it simply wasnt that fun... now i think going fast in anything is fun, but i guess its just not everything its cracked out to be?????
Yes, these American people lived all their lives surrounded by the vette and never saw the other car like GTR 35 on other side of the world in Japan. I have driven and saw a live z06, its good and fast but when compared to gtr35, I would ride in a skyline rather than the vette. talk/stats are cheap Here is the cold fact, these Americans never saw and touch a skyline gtr35 ever in their life time maybe in 2009, probably played in video but that does not count.
he has a good point there. because American car company believe in the theory that bigger engine or bigger balls are better but they have been proven wrong over, over, and over again by the gtr35. "cylinder volume" more fats to the vette. u fucking ignorant is the correct terms you used for American cars.
I've driven Geigers Supercharged C6 and it's one of the harshest rides I've ever driven. Even stock Carrera S is more fun to drive. Let alone modded 997 Trubo I've tested last weekend at Hockenheim. :)
Ignorant??? Ha, for less money, you get a car that preformes faster and is more high tech than Vette. So what if turbos are there, why doesn't vette use smaller engines? GTR is better car in every way, and its a 4 seater (although small, still useable) and manages to destroy Chevys legend. You can talk all you want, facts are facts. z06 is slower, lower tech and slightly more expencive. Watch zr1 burns when V-Spec comes around. :) Have a nice day...
Man that dude can DRIVE...
cjm04 1 month ago
Stock???
DoggyB22 2 months ago
@vinman1029 apologize im taking your back to all of these fucking idots who work in cubical s all day.... pencil pushers
CarmackRacing 4 months ago
@vinman1029 this guy is an idot!! there is such thing as a paddle shifted automatic z06 dummy you order it through lingenfelter dumb ass, there was one looked almost exactly like this one at my shop serial number 001 from lingenfelter.....@vinman1029 just quit speaking and keep looking on your fourms dumbass
CarmackRacing 4 months ago
Well my bad.I talked to my friend and he said he pulled some strings with his car.It was sent out and converted before he took delivery.
vinman1029 7 months ago
This is dumb. These aren't drag cars; they're street racing cars.
parafleet 11 months ago
best sounding automatic i ever heard!
rednecklowlife 1 year ago
@rednecklowlife that wasnt the z06 as an auto, the dont make z06 autos
IxOVERKILLxI 1 year ago
@IxOVERKILLxI They do make auto.Z06's.My friend had a 2007 because his wife couldn't drive stick.They are rare.
vinman1029 7 months ago
@vinman1029 not an option on a Z06....
richjd630 7 months ago
@vinman1029 you are so full of shit they NEVER made an automatic z06 NONE,NADA TIPOTHA NIENTE which language do you understand????????If YOU DONT KNOW ABOUT A SUBJECT THEN KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT.i HATE bullshiters.There are no z06 s made in automatic from the company.Now get in your focus and go far away....Moron.
camirocz 7 months ago
@camirocz Hey fucktard,maybe you should shut your hole.You sound like a bench racer.My friend had one and it wasn't special order.Better yet,search for automatic z06 on here,that should shut you up.
vinman1029 7 months ago
@vinman1029 fuck you you idiot there is no such a thing a special order anything anymore get out of the seventies g.m.never produced an automatic z06 any year whatsoever from 2001 to 2012!!!!!!!Google it and you ll see.Stop making up bullshit you asshole.
camirocz 6 months ago
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Blueball0120 11 months ago
nice real nice
leonzr1 1 year ago
so how much in gas did he spend on those 30 passes lol
Jimbo5123 1 year ago
@Jimbo5123 Why are you asking that???? Youre a fucking greenpeace or what? If someones like to drag I really dont think hes gonna get a car with a good fuel consumption in mind.......stop bothering them with your fucking yaris and echo please, they're just good to go shopping.
SsmAnyfeSt 1 year ago
@SsmAnyfeSt u must have read it wrong i thought it was funny
Jimbo5123 1 year ago
@Jimbo5123 I don't think someone like that cares :)
mcdoogle6969 1 year ago
@Jimbo5123 An ariel atom can get 32 mpg and do this time in the quarter all day long. And theres one on ebay for sale 40 grand.
iceman241111 1 year ago
@iceman241111 Where to start with this idiotic comment. 1; The atom is a damn gocart that costs 40k 2: EBAY Haha 3: It doesn't even have a damn roof on it you can buy a motorcycle that will seat two and run faster times for a lot less money. 4: The Z a FULL body car with AC a stereo and an actual roof on it gets 25+ so the atom actually sucks at gas mileage. 5: WTF was the point in your comment anyway? 6: GMC laughs at companies like Arial... enough said.
IanJamesMullins 11 months ago
@iceman241111 thats not a car thats a GO KART. ariel atom is like my POWER WHEELS.
noshabibis 9 months ago
wut did u launch your vett at
Samimiamiv1 1 year ago
looks like a hertz z06....
9secondsflat 1 year ago
Yeah, all other things being equal an OHC engine would make about the same amount of power. One of the problems with a pushrod engine is clearance in the heads for the pushrods which usually cuts down on intake size. The LSX motors changed that by going to a tall skinny port. Generally the lack of torque from an OHC motor is because it's smaller displacment and aimed at more top end power.
NBSV1 1 year ago
Great job!
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mawk27 1 year ago
it sounds like an auto tranny. is it?
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raffaela1978 2 years ago
lol nice <3 the Z06, hence my name :P
07Z06ss 2 years ago
how much does it cost to rent a track out?
wesfresh 2 years ago
you guys rented out a drag strip and took off work? i love your thinking.
426rwhpC5 2 years ago 24
got rid of my 2v ohc cars, and am not looking back. Love the Z.
mawk27 2 years ago
and i shouldnt even have to mention that the GM zr1s were made in the early 90s you cant compare that to an engine developed 2 years ago. and the ford gt motor is supercharged so you cant bring anything with boost into a discussion about NA motors. Esp when talking about cams because boost becomes the focus not the cam.
carado1984 2 years ago 2
The ls7 has decent low end torque but great high end power because it, like all race cars, are designed for high rpm use. Name any other v8 that revs to 7k and is making more torque than hp NA. Another advantage of an OHV engine is its simplicity in making more horsepower. Its really simple, one cam. And with titanium rods, as you would see if you did research on the companies that are designing cams for these engines.. theyre gaining at least 75 rwhp and not damaging the titanium rods.
carado1984 2 years ago 3
It is true that the 427's thin aluminum cylinder walls have special steel sleves for strength, but still it is not really set up for forced air.
Besides, once you hit 650 or 700 HP, you get major traction problems and have to mini-tub it anyway. My stock Z06 with it's 505 HP has traction problems right now, in first. Even in second gear (on cold days).
Any car that has 700 HP or more will start breaking. I see the 1000 HP Supras on YouTube, but there engines blow up all the time.
calimar28 2 years ago
Ok let me fix something I said.
The Z06 does have thin cylinder walls in its 427. Therefore, forced air is not recomended. A slight cam and bigger intake and other bolt-ons can make easy HP for it, but it is not advisable to go over say 650 HP.
You can run 6 PSI of boost with an SC on a Z06, but that is a slight risk thanks to those cylinder walls...it will reduce engine life. However, SC and turbo reduces ANY engines life.
The Z06's with 1,000 HP wont last long.
calimar28 2 years ago
is this stock?
Lkopnuf 2 years ago
is this a stock Z06??
furbygr 2 years ago
This is your boss. Your fired
ddrfrk 2 years ago
This one has the driver mod!
N20LT4 2 years ago
TRANS AM SUCK VET WON
QuranGoodman 2 years ago
hey gigaminion, u should really keep yourself updated cause back in october the zr1 ran a new 7:22.4 lap on the ring... 3 tenths off the ACRs 7:22.1 time so bfore you start saying what cars belongs where u should get your facts straight first...
ClumzyThief666 3 years ago
yep it ran a 7:22 right. But that lap is not official sadly. i wonder if it'll ever happen again
GigaMinion 3 years ago
its not official because Dodge and GM dont use professional race car drivers like your precious japanese testers.
Do some actual research before putting your biased views on here
Meli083 3 years ago
i'm a domestic fan as well. so don't think i'm being a fan boy about it. but this vid is just clear bullshit, i had to comment on this one.
and more to it
You say that the zr1's lap time isn't 7:22 because dodge and gm don't use professional drivers. That makes no damn sense because if they don't, then why is does zr1 have a official lap time of 7:26.4?
GigaMinion 3 years ago
Yeah i know, it should be lower, should'nt it?
They had an engineer drive it, just like all the other times. They didnt replace the tires with racing ones like Nissan did for the gtr.
Meli083 3 years ago
there's no proof of that
and it's funny. you say that the zr1 could've gone lower. Its run was near perfect. but you say they don't use pro drivers, unlike nissan.
so that's most likely the reason why nissan gtr came so close to the fastest run done by zr1. Maybe because the driver of the gtr actually knows how to fuckin drive, unlike people who drive the zr1 or acr. You have no proof of the gtr not being capable of handling up to 600hp. But i do. JDM gtr's are recorded at 520BHP. dumbass.
GigaMinion 3 years ago
No proof of what? Porsche tried to obtain the same time that the gtr had by purchasing their own and they never came close.
I think your the real dumbass here. Why dont you move to a place where they worship Japanese cars and hate on American cars, like say Japan?
Yes, people are modding the new gtr like crazy nowadays. There are even downloads to the gtr's computer to increase hp and torque by almost 100. But I have been to Nissan dealerships that HAVE voided warrantys coz of launch control.
Meli083 3 years ago
porsche has used a usdm gtr. There's a difference between the two, the 0-60mph time and power difference are both great examples. USDM did a 2.5 and jdm did a 3.2. usdm puts out 475hp at the crank, jdm puts out 520bhp at the wheels. The JDM gtr did the nurburgring in 7:29. You're overall someone that i'm not even arguing with actually. I'm just toying around with your stupidity. It's quite funny. Keep in mind that the warranty is only voided when it is abused or damage is done while using it.
GigaMinion 3 years ago
No, your the blind fool here. Thru your biasness u ignore the gtrs that actually have had their warranties voided (although I admit they aren't that many). U can go ahead and laugh at urself because ur biased argument wont work against me.
If you turn off the VDC (Vehicle Dynamic Control) too often, Nissan will not honor your warranty if something breaks. The LC requires the VDC to be turned off and you can then run 0-60 times of 3.4 seconds. Otherwise u'll be in the high threes.
Meli083 3 years ago
haha, well i'm not really in the arguing mood. I'm not a biased person. You can call me one but go on. I had enough arguing, it's the same thing over and over again, nothing accomplished. lol
You got the right idea though. Let me copy and paste what you said.
"VDC (Vehicle Dynamic Control) too often, Nissan will not honor your warranty if something breaks. The LC requires the VDC to be turned off and you can then run 0-60 times of 3.4 seconds"
That will be abusing it.
GigaMinion 3 years ago
well fought
Meli083 3 years ago
you wanna talk domestics or something? get a little more into the strait line cars? ok.
well, i'm getting a 4.6 dohc crown vic soon. i think i'm selling my volvo.
Are you a ford person by any chance? want to compare??
GigaMinion 3 years ago
"strait line cars?" Domestic cars are also know to be track cars, idk why you have to be such a biased dickhead.
you, getting a domestic, psssshhhhh...
Meli083 3 years ago
ALL MOTOR, I should add.
F.A.S.T., Vara, Kooks, and SLP ONLY. ALL MOTOR, and tune. STOCK RIMS.
9's with the NX kit and wrinkles.
N2OHZOH6 3 years ago
DAMN. You're a f'in' good driver. Any clutch between 3 -> 4?
I'm impressed. It took my C5Z over $6k to hit 10's...
N2OHZOH6 3 years ago
Hey Check out the you tube video ZR1 drag race king and "ZR1 smokes GTR". Although not a SPEC V. The ZR1 smoked not only the GTR but the lighter GT2 with 530 BHP and the 612 BHP Ferrari 599. Those other 2 cars beat the GTR too, with ZR1 1ST. 70 BHP helps but,it's biggest asset is AWD!! Just like the EVO; beyond 60', without AWD, or the ZR1 with slicks and SPEC V is like any other car. I like the SPEC V/GTR also but don't think it's enough with only 485 WHEEL HP. With lighter cars and 530+ rwhp
mr101f 3 years ago
The ZR1 doesnt smoke the ferrari in the quarter mile. Straight line they are evenly matched, ferrari is faster to 60, zr1 1 tenth faster in the 1/4 mile, which then pulls ahead for awhile, followed by the ferrari pulling ahead at higher speeds. In a race to 200 mph Im sure the ferrari would win. Put the drag slicks on the 599, I wanna see what it will do.
sexyitalian891 3 years ago
the zr1 totally destroy all ferrie's ever made in history
josephayal 3 years ago
Hey, you maybe correct up to 60mph. However, beyond that it's a ZR1 Race. I don't know if you have seen it or not. Put "ZR1 Drag Race King" in the youtube search window. Motor Trend, Professional Drivers, ZR1, 599, GT2, GTR. ZR1 smokes them all!
mr101f 3 years ago
nothing can beat the zr1 or the z06
chevycam572 3 years ago
Sweet ass ride, One is in my future for sure. Pushrods forever.
sawracer 3 years ago
its amazing how the shit talkers that are hating on the corvette dont even know the basics about cars. They just say general things like the corvette sucks or they look at the times that a gtr or corvette get on the track.
So the corvette sucks huh?
Can u guys back up ur claims with actual facts instead of lies plz?
Meli083 3 years ago
chev is a powerful car but cavemen technology. There is an all aluminum big block engine, in a small car, that's all. Their compression ratio is lower than your average honda. And more comparison, the vette makes 72.2 hp/liter. a h22as makes 97.7 hp/liter. Vette is 67.14 lb-ft/liter and the h22as is 72.54 lb-ft/liter. Over all, the corvette is far from impressive. Now the GTR? I can say strait up, the Corvette has nothing against a gtr other than a strait which it barely makes it. Disagree?
GigaMinion 3 years ago
Yes, I disagree. As Does every auto magazine in circulation.
PDC1987 3 years ago 2
ok. so other than a 1/4 mile and top speed. what has the vette beaten the Gtr in??
you should find plenty being that you think that every auto magazine in circulation disagrees as well.
GigaMinion 3 years ago
first of all, hp/L is ricer math. 2nd, the LS7 is a 427 small block, not a big block. 3rd of all, what would any sane person own, a stock c6z06 or a stock honda, if you were given either one...gee i wonder. and that caveman tech has showed to be one of the most proven platforms.
canespride83 3 years ago
wow, you can count? You must feel so proud of yourself. there's no such thing as ricer math, just shows how much a ls7 stacks up against other engines. I compared it to a h22as and it didn't fare so well. A stock c6zo6 or a stock honda? You go spend 70K on a c6z06 and i'll spend 5k on my honda. then i'll put 65k into it. Your vette wouldn't stand a chance from day one.
as for the caveman tech thing, it just goes to show that what you're paying for can be done and made for cheap shit, not 70K.
GigaMinion 3 years ago
no shit you can do something for cheaper and make it faster. goddamnit i swear some people give import fans the rep they have. HP/lb actually a more meaningful statistic, since it takes in the whole factor of the car + motor. sure your engine is impressive for what it is, but ill take an LS7 over whatever it was, h22. and if youd like to, run some numbers like you did on a C5R motor, over 900hp from 427ci, which is more than 2hp/ci. also, its readily available as a crate engine to buy.
canespride83 3 years ago
hmmm, you are right on one thing. hp/lb is a more useful term but i was describing the engine itself. Oh, and if you're talking about a c5r sledgehammer vette or w/e it is. then ok, go take a look at the vielside supra. more hp than a hennessey viper even. oh wait, it's a 3 liter.
GigaMinion 3 years ago
Well, let's put things on similar playing fields. Let's look at this H22 vs LS7 again. I don't know what this H22 is but I do know it's got to be either a 4 or 6 cyl. Now, the only way a H22 can even be close is to be F.I. (turbo) Now back in the old caveman era 8 cylinders ruled. Now put the turbo on the 8cylinders. Guess what? They will once again rule. Such as they did with the ZR1 Vette. There is nothing faster than a ZR1 and have a standard 3/36 warranty. GTR you say? Wrong answer try again
mr101f 3 years ago
Jdm Gtr V-spec will take out a zr1 vette. regular jdm gtrs sold versions in japan with over 520bhp which the zr1 didn't touch, imagine what the v spec will put out. Also, the zr1's ls9 is a pretty cool ls9 but it's not turbocharged. it's twin screw/whipple supercharged which was pretty useful considering the fact that it is the most efficient super charger, also my favorite. the h22a is a I4. modifications are cheaper, reliability is better, they're over all very dynamic engines.
GigaMinion 3 years ago
the v spec will take aour the zr1 ? hahahahahahahahhaha i could't stop laughing loll the v spec is a 210mph? 10.5 sec 1/4 mile? LOL
josephayal 3 years ago
yr an ignorant little dude ya know. Think about it. The v-spec is gonna be about 700 lbs lighter. and it's gonna have even more bhp. numbers around 550hp are to be expected in the USDM. The Jdm will have even more than that. The zr1 struggled to defeat a factory stock JDM gtr in every competition that the JDM GTR stepped up to. So imagine what a JDM v-spec will do to the zr1, other than blow the shit off the track. If you ask me, the zr1 doesn't even deserve to be on the same track.
GigaMinion 3 years ago
best numers stock (zo6 not the zr1)
z06 11.0@129mph top speed 200mph
gt-r 11.67@119mph 193mph
gt-r v spec (estimated) 11.5@125mph top 197mph
josephayal 3 years ago
keep in mind that they had to use drag radials for the z06 in order for it to clock that time. originally. a z06 is .3 faster than a gtr. For a car 700 lbs lighter. 3.2 more liters. 2 more pistons. and smaller over all, that's really not impressive. the v-spec will be 700 lbs lighter than the regular gtr. So that's enough to probably even put it .3 faster than your regular z06. Do you even know why the z06 is even here?
GigaMinion 3 years ago
dude, the z06 has a naturally aspirated engine and the gtr has twin-turbos planted on its 3.8ltr engine. Put twin turbos on a 7.0 or even supercharge it, and u will see some serious power.
Who are you, some endorser for nissan?
Take your jap crap car with the faulty transmission elsewhere.
If you want reliability and to be able to mod a car with over 1000 horses then get the z06.
Meli083 3 years ago
ok go on, take your supercharger. what ever you want. Mean while i'll go add another 2 more pistons and 3.2 liters to a gtr and see that i don't burn a vette off the track. I bet you don't even know anything about the transmission. and reliability with 1000 horses in a z06? Go buy a stock z06. Bow some push rods and hear every valve rattle. then you can come to me with that bullshit about a faulty transmission.
P.S.
Lingenfelter TT gave 2 or 3 runs to 200mph. failed all, something broke on it.
GigaMinion 3 years ago
If you are looking for a drag or road race car there are things you will want to upgrade to handle the extra abuse the car will take.
The gtr can't handle more than 600 hp, it has been proven. The faulty jap crap tranny will fuck up. At least with a z06, you have the capability to raise the hp to over 1000 and completely wipe gtr's ass on the streets.
Funny how people think you could easily add hp to engines. The point is, any attempt to raise the gtr's hp will lead to disaster=>transmission.
Meli083 3 years ago
so you're wrong about the faulty transmission. It was an internet rumor by the way. Nissan is voiding it mainly because your bitch ass started a dramatic rumor that's messing with production sales. Thanks you bitch ass. Also, i saw a vette not even making 700 that blew up on the dyno. Cylinder walls are too thin. And even if the vette had that much power it will still be dominated. Did you forget about traction? yr not all that smart are you?
My baby sister knows more than your biased ass.
GigaMinion 3 years ago
no asshole. It's funny how you think the whole racing world is on youtube.
Since your gonna talk about reliability why don't i mention the fact that there are so many corvettes on the road with over 250,000 miles. They are reliable cars. If uve ever been on the drag strip, what are the most kind of cars you see? Mustangs but also, strangely enough, a large amount of corvettes.
Whos really being biased here? your pussy ass.
Damn keyboard warrior piece of shit.
Go back to school asshole
Meli083 3 years ago
do you know what i think? obviously not because you're just as dumb as sylvia fuckin brown as of now. If i go to the drag strip, i see a bunch of shit actually. Including hondas blowing head gaskets, vettes breaking differentials or putting rods through their block or reving to a point of bowing the pushrods. I'm actually a ford guy, you can get it from everyone that talks to me. but you're just a disgrace.
Keyboard warrior piece of shit?
pussy ass?
you make no fuckin sense.
GigaMinion 3 years ago
no you make no sense thinking that the whole racing world is on youtube. Idk what kind of vettes your looking at on the track, but after witnessing so many turboed and supercharged vettes, id have to say that they are very reliable cars.
hey, ur the one who started dissing, dont be a biased dickhead
Meli083 3 years ago
Hey, i've already proved my point. The subject is settled and done. But i want to see what runs through your head. I'm a DOHC guy so i'm getting a 281 4 valve. Yes it's a crown vic so i'm gonna get it for taxi. Going around the place for public transportation when off the job. think about it, under the table money. The money used to modify it. I'm already checking into 5.4 blocks. so lets go tackle your interest. What do you think of fords Modular engines??
GigaMinion 3 years ago
that would be off-topic son.
Meli083 3 years ago
No asshole its not a rumor, using launch control WILL void the warranty. Funny how your not allowed to use all the features of the car, isnt it?
Your the biased asshole here.
Meli083 3 years ago
and once again. there is a video under my favorites that you can go check for yourself showing a true owner of it reading the warranty booklet for you. No where on the warranty booklet does it directly state that if you use lc you will void your warranty. If that's the case then they wouldn't advertise a 3.5 second 0-60 mph time. it's false advertisement if it voids the warranty. But wait, using lc they done it in a JDM gtr in 3.2.
GigaMinion 3 years ago
it doesn't have to say it on the warranty booklet. Almost every car nowadays has a computer that the dealers check to see what has been done. This black box cant be bypassed unless you say screw it and void your warranty. But with Nissan doing that, I'd have to say screw the warranty after a while and yank that black box out.
Meli083 3 years ago
If it doesn't say it on the warranty booklet, and the subject here is the "WARRANTY" where else would it be? I don't like the black box either. If i got a gtr i'm voiding the warranty anyway. I'm taking the shit out. But that only tells when the lc was used. if problems with the car date back to a time when lc was used and the jap engineers can determine whether or not the damages were done while using launch control, that's when they void the warranty. other than that, you can use it whenever.
GigaMinion 3 years ago
Tell that to the gtr owner that have to pay an extra 20k on top of the 85k (at least) they already paid for the busted tranny
Meli083 3 years ago
Meli, don't call me son for the start.
the regular gtr is in the 75K range. why are they being sold around 85? those are the premium packages and so on. It's like the grandsport of vette or some shit like that.
But it's ok if it's off topic because so was the debate. Is there a gtr? v6? 4wd? twin turbo? foreign car, on this vid? no
But there is a v8, domestic, Rwd, simple, pushrod, small block, aluminum 428 in here right?
So lets talk domestics. Just for the joy of it. You know any of ford?
GigaMinion 3 years ago
yeah, i got a black 06 mustang gt. Ford provides engines to alot of major car manufacters
Meli083 3 years ago
Uh oh. I use to be an import guy but the mustangs were easy to modify. the modular engines were damn bullet proof. Fuckin cylinder walls are thick. Is it a 4 valve? I'm getting into the modular engines being that they're just about the most popular. Stuff like the 351, never really was my thing.
GigaMinion 3 years ago
i think its a 2 valve. Yeah they're the number 1 cars for the drag strips nowadays. I havent really got into modding mine because i still have warranty on it. It must be 3 valves per cylinder. Must be a 4 valve head, not too sure.
Meli083 3 years ago
I think the 2 is the pushrod
the 3 is the SOHC
and the 4 is the DOHC
I talk to this dude on my profile (toofastfortransam) has a stang. just put kenne bell, air intake, and x pipes. makin about 750 at the wheels. Stock bottom end. That's what motivated me actually. I like the 4 valve for durability and the look of the valve covers strange enough. I'm looking into a 5.4 aluminum swap already, haha. Being that they're modular engines, i can just move the shit off the 4.6 to the 5.4, you go to kb?
GigaMinion 3 years ago
no, but ive seen a kb mustang at the track. They are beasts
Meli083 3 years ago
what do they usually run?
GigaMinion 3 years ago
I've only seen one on the track here and it went a few times. I think its average was mid 10's
Meli083 3 years ago
sounds nice
i live in P.A. so alot of people are like, backwards.
They think they can buy some shit like a Sebring
Engine goes from cold weather but they want the heat on so they rev it.
They cut off a semi truck and spunt the last few hours running from it
Paint chipped and pealed from gravel and salt on roads
And every warning light coming on but them not knowing what that means never even bothers to get it checked out.
they they sell the car for 7K atleast.
I go to NJ for shit usually.
GigaMinion 3 years ago
lord knows what stangs go for up here.
the crown vic i'm checkin into, is actually a interceptor which is quite useful. When i get it, i don't want it to bee too damn slow, lol. The only thing it really needs is a different color carpet and different seats. Everything is surprisingly clean in it. Then repaint it because that bird shit white isn't quite the thing i want to "roll" with. I'd rather black leather interior and black paint. kinda like a taxi. After the basics are done, i'll mod it.
GigaMinion 3 years ago
I can tell you the cylnder walls are fine on the Z06, they have special sleves, i have seen them getting 1200 HP and not blow up at all.
calimar28 2 years ago
Yes you hear some lifter noise with pushrod engines..but that is the tradeoff for more TORQUE. Cant get that kind of torque from overhead cam engines. Add to that , that if a Z06 is DONE RIGHT, it can make well over 1200 HP with no problems at all.
calimar28 2 years ago
.... How does having single cam pushrod engines contribute to having more torque? I can tell you one thing right away and that's that the z06 engine internals are heavier than most other engine internals to start off with so they already have more potential energy and once that starts spinning as the engine fires up, it's harder to stop it which means it has more torque but overall the engine being a pushrod will not affect its torque.
GigaMinion 2 years ago
The worlds fastest cars (dragsters) use pushrod technology, not overhead cams. Why is that?
Pwned.
calimar28 2 years ago
I personally thought they the worlds fastest cars are the jet dragsters which don't use pushrod, they use Turbofan.
Drag racing is a damn near all american sport. but if you put 8000 hp or even 12000 hp in any engine, don't you think it will run pretty fast? Being that the pushrod is the american engine, it's quite understandable that a damn near all american sport like drag racing is gonna have pushrod engines omnipresent.
GigaMinion 2 years ago
Wrong. If dragsters could get more power from an overhead cam, they would do it. They are always looking for a way to shave off seconds. The fastest one's are now at 2.9 seconds in the quarter which has got them almost as far as they can go without the use of a G-suit for the driver so they wont pass out.
calimar28 2 years ago
The advantages of having a dual over cam engine over a push rod or engine are that the dual over head cam uses less moving parts. Which makes it simpler and much more durable being that there are now 4 cams on the engine. If you have a dual over head cam, the only moving parts are the cams and they are pushing down on the valve retainers. If you use pushrod, the single cam has to push up on a pushrod, then that pushrod has to connect to a rocker arm, then that rocker arm connects to the valve
xoxoJaziGxoxo 2 years ago
see, let me give you an example. a ford 4.6 DOHC. they're basically a power house right? it's an american dual over head cam engine and to be honest with you, fords modular family is virtually the only line of engines that can take 3 times their power without even breaking a stock rod. They're dual overhead cam setup comes making more torque than horse power, however the 7 liter z06 engine makes more horse power than torque. How do you explain that?
GigaMinion 2 years ago
How do I explain that? Because the LS7 engine is setup for both torque and HP. But I should be more specific...the overhead valve (pushorod) engine has better "bottom-end torque". So they get out of the hole faster...which is why funny cars and 3.5 second dragsters use overhead valve
calimar28 2 years ago
the ls7 is set up for both hp and torque you say. well i agree. it's a high performance engine that costs like 16K. but you say that it uses pushrod because they develop better bottom end torque. Hmm. Toyota set out a new 5.7 in their crew max truck. not expensive. it's a DOHC. not a pushrod, however it makes more torque than a all the N/A 5.7 ZR1's that gm has ever made. It makes more torque, much faster, at a much lower RPM. Why is that? Oh, then compare a ford gt 5.4 4V DOHC to the z06 LS7.
GigaMinion 2 years ago
The Ford GT 500 gets beaten by the Vette, as does the crew max truck.
calimar28 2 years ago
at high rpms, the pushrods tend to bend and flex, which causes them to bow. If you have that then it can fuck up the entire valve train. However with a ohc or a dohc, you won't have that problem because there are no push rods. on top of that, if you take a look at corvette history, even in the 1968 24 hour lemans, vettes broke down because of a broken cam. One cam is powering 16 valves where as in a dohc v8 has 4 cams, each powering 8. much more durable. More than twice as durable actually.
xoxoJaziGxoxo 2 years ago
Couple of problems with OHC engines. First, they cannot get the same bottom end torque that a pushrod can get...and second, they require more space under the hood and dont they run hotter? ANd break downs? Corvette engines are known for ultra reliability and duribility. Most Lemans races the Vettes win...and they wouldnt if they broke down a lot.
So...so there.
calimar28 2 years ago 4
calimar28, why do you think that pushrod engines have more bottom end torque?
GigaMinion 1 year ago
Oh, ignore xoxoJaziGxoxo. I forgot to sign off her profile.
and p.s. yea that zr1 can beat a crew max pickup truck. the truck weighs much more. however a modern day c6 z06 can not beat a ford gt. i did not say that a zo6 can't beat a gt 500. I compared N/A zr1's to the crew max 5.7 because it shows how corvette has to make a car that costs 80K with a engine making so much power and the first 5.7 v8 toyota does is a DOHC that has even more power than the legendary pushrod zr1's 5.7.
GigaMinion 2 years ago
Isn't Toyoat the brand that is killing people with their poducts???
local282forlife 2 years ago 10
I meant Toyota.
local282forlife 1 year ago
@local282forlife sir, American cars cornered that market with the pinto years ago
mentor2506 1 year ago
2010 SpecV stats, 480hp/470ftlb- i think they shaved 300lbs so its around 3500lbs now, more carbon fiber, no back seats, price 170Kusd, we'll just have to wait and see what it can do, and i dont think its coming here to the US, the pricing is actually 15m yen
pimpinkin87 2 years ago
Hey man, what about TOYOTA or HONDA, that must stop the Formula one beacause they can't afford it anymore ? I live in Europe, I pay more taxes that US pay, I have to work for people that doesn't want to, because they are paid by the ASSEDICS with my money !!!! Do you think that it's better than US ????
Kamertusbeef 3 years ago
my best 1/4 time in my c6 z06 is 11.3@126mph %100 stock
josephayal 3 years ago
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nice and good luck
ZO6KaNDri 3 years ago
Nice!!!!!!
19spartan84 3 years ago
pretty good for an 1/8 mile
rexcars27 3 years ago
dude its 1/4 mile
judgementdey 3 years ago
I know. That's sarcasm. Besides, 10 seconds in an 1/8 at 128? WTF?
rexcars27 3 years ago
The Z06 is the best value on the market, even if the GTR is maybe faster on a track, it would be very closed. I've seen a Z06 smoking a 997 GT3 on a track, a half second faster ! So it works very good...
Kamertusbeef 3 years ago
lol your forgetting 1 important fact ... american cars suck! americans just cant build cars, yeah ok you can make cars go fast but they are unsafe and poorly built and cant go round corners!
callumshmallum 3 years ago
HAHAHAHA, you should try to be more informed before speaking this, the new american cars are a far better now, the Corvette ZR-1 has made the best lap on the Ring, the Cadillac CTS-V is also the fastest V8 sedan on the Ring, and what ? These cars cost less than european production... Have you ever seen the Ferrari Enzo's interior ? It's poor plastics, shitty quality, poor built... and it costs 665 000 € !!!!!!
Kamertusbeef 3 years ago 3
well, spec-v already smoked the zr1 so no point of claiming the vette is fast anymore.
thebestman 3 years ago
Hahaha, you suck, the ZR-1 is driven by chevy's engineers, not famous japan racers, just give the ZR-1 to Walter Röhrl and see what will happend... You're desperate, you have never driven the GT-R but I have, it's a poor shit that has more Hp than what it's claimed, but the one I've driven wasn't faster than my 2007 Z06... HAHAHAHAHA
Kamertusbeef 3 years ago
all these years you have been paying car taxes in the US.There is a big reason why American car companies are in trouble in the market. now, cars companies in the US are begging for bail out saying they made mistakes. one real mistake was ignoring the japanese cars. you paid taxes so maybe you should go crying to domestic car companies to make better cars, unless you are a moron like the USDM car companies who ignored the Japanese cars for a long time.
thebestman 3 years ago
kid if you own a c6 z06 at 22 then i am buying the trump plaza next week ,why bullshit when its not necessary
camirocz 3 years ago
It doesn't matter if you don't want to trust me man, I work with my father since I'm 17 years old, I make more money than you'll never have. Let speak people who know what they're talking about...
Kamertusbeef 3 years ago
first of all how do you know what i have or dont have, secondly learn to speak properly,ill make more money than you ll never have is not proper english.I suggest you go and finish high school and then come back to this debate.
camirocz 3 years ago
Bestman, what is a TT Z06? A twin turbo Z06? like a Lingenfelter? If so they can pull 9s in a quarter mile. Hell the C5 Z06 can pull a 11.7 stock. The best Porsches are RWD, F1 cars are RWD, BMWs are RWD the list goes on. All the GTR is a 3.5L bored out and 2 screws hooked into AWD, automatic not that impressive, it takes no skill to drive a GTR. Get your facts strait
EMason88 3 years ago
the new zr1 hold the second fastes nurburgren lap record (the name of the track is speled wrong do not complane^^)
any way only the viper acr is faster because the driver of the viper is 30 kilograms lighter than the one used in the corvette
jave572 3 years ago
so what your sayin is that fat people can drive fast? lol
cheesepufff 3 years ago
And generally a stock Z06 with a good launch does 11.5 at the 1/4 mile, the best for the GTR with 520 Hp, launch control and 4WD, is 11.6...
Kamertusbeef 3 years ago 2
Lol thebestman, a 997 Turbo can't beat a Z06... A stock Z06 does 11.8 seconds from 0-200 km/h, a 911 T needs 1 second more, like the GTR with his fat shity ass... Just take a look in magazines, the best times have been done by 520 Hp GTR, so a stock GTR will never beat a stock Z06 loooool.
Kamertusbeef 3 years ago
Is it true the GTR on the "Ring" had a rolling start? Also the fastest quarter time for a stock Z06 is 10.98. It dose not take skill to dump it at 6k with AWD. All real sports cars are RWD.
EMason88 3 years ago
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"real sports cars are RWD" with a v8 engine?
v8 engines are not for sports car be realistic. v8 is for muscle cars and a v8 will be beaten by a v6 for sure.
z06 TT does a 11.58, how does a stock z06 do a 10.99 ?
watch?v=nKPafK3m6Ao
thebestman 3 years ago
a z06 tt runs 7 and 8 sec u mother fucker! z06 is a real car! not like the gt-r twin turbo awd and runs a 12 sec
josephayal 3 years ago
And even if the GTR handles better, the Z06 can smoke a 997 GT3 on a track with a good driver, so it can take corners faster than a Porsche... You're always arguing with "claimed" times on the Ring by Nissan or pro-japanese tests, but have you ever driven a Z06 ?? I had a ride in a GTR (sold 90 000 €) in Luxembourg last month, and I can tell you that if the Z06 was an electronic shit like the GTR, it will not be as good as it is... Don't hurry, the 2009 Z06 will destroy your GTR on the ring...
Kamertusbeef 3 years ago
Lol thebestman, a stock Z06 goes from 0 to 200 km/h in less than 12 seconds... Your fat shit of GTR needs 1 second more LoooooL... Go back to bed, it's a bad dream...
Kamertusbeef 3 years ago
z06 with all those hp all it does get beaten by the 911t/gtr. 911t beat z06
a z06 TT does a 11.58, how does a stock z06 do a 10.99 ?
watch?v=nKPafK3m6Ao
thebestman 3 years ago
@thebestman. First of all, that twin turbo Z06 was a C5 corvette. So its a completely different car. Second this car has drag radials. Look at the trap speeds.. the TT Z06 traps at like 130mph, where this traps at 127mph, which means that the TT with more power is actually faster but this Z06 with the drag radials got a better launch. So it makes PERFECT sense buddy
redshift1340 3 years ago
A GTR is no faster than a ZO6 in the QM and top speed the ZO6 is faster, 198mph stock...
GTR does 116mph in the QM and the ZO6 does 125mph in the QM, that tells when the ZO6 get moving its a faster car in a straight line!!!
gpk24 3 years ago
I love the c6 zo6. would've been even better if the zo6 have 32 valves, but then the price will go up too.
very good time, and very nice zo6. =)
hangguy209 3 years ago
yall should be comparing the gtr spec v vs the zr1 because they are basically almost maxed to their full potential. Argue when those come out
yardman8888 3 years ago
yow!!!!!!! guys why are we arguing over 2 great cars. Obviously from a dig the GTR wins and from a roll z06 wins. Anything after that depends on mods done to the car.
yardman8888 3 years ago
yeah i agree, but there are alternate ways of making power, and engineering.
in that logic, why dont manufacturers just make V10s or V12s or V14s, or V16s or V20s.?
the reason the V8 has been around and great is because it is a very well known and mastered powerplant that Americans have been using for the longest time. but if u get down to scientifically, the ariel atom with a supercharged 4cyl honda engine is quicker than an enzo.
so scientifically....weight > power
donisthabomb1 3 years ago
THE GT-R FASTER THAN Z06??? hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha gt-r 12.6 1/4 mile
hahahahahz06 10.8 1/4 mile and the gt-r is faster? hahahahahahahahahahaha i could't stop laug lolllll!!!!
sejodieron 3 years ago
GTR IS faster, this guy had modds.
10.8? seriously that is the thing to laugh about.
505hp on 3300lbs and a 10.8? fuck you and ur fake ass times.
GTR > Z06
V-spec > Zr1
donisthabomb1 3 years ago
LOL v spec zr1???
zr1 11.0@134mph top speed 207mph+ (official)
v spec 10.5@140mph top speed 215mph??????? hahahahahaha keep dreaming ignorant
sejodieron 3 years ago
prepare to see the the 2005 z06 smoking the v spec 2011, sorry but the zr1 totally destroys the v spec
sejodieron 3 years ago
2005 z06 destroy Vspec? hahahahhahaha
are u a comedian.
stop magazine racing man, i cant believe im guilty of this myself. damn magazine racers
donisthabomb1 3 years ago
12.6 ? wow. ur putting up fake numbers.
i can say the z06 runs a 13.5 sec 1/4 mile too.
donisthabomb1 3 years ago
funny the gtr r35 already got it's ass spanked on youtube a z06. CORVETTE=A REAL PERFORMANCE CAR FOR OVER 50 YRS AND DOSEN'T HAVE TO PROVE ANYTHING TO A GTR.
drhymes1 3 years ago
z06 hasnt been around that long.
the C5 gen was the first z06. and z06 is dying . zr1 is taking its place.
both great cars, but u z06 fans seem to feel a need to bash the GTR, why? maybe its because the car has so many fans, and the corvette has been trying so hard but only 50yr old men on rogaine drive them lol jk. i'd love a z06, but come on why the hate?
donisthabomb1 3 years ago
The GTR is nothing but a robot on wheels. Turn off all the electric stuff and it's about as worthless as a dodge viper on the track. The z06 isn't dying and neither is a regular vette.
drhymes1 3 years ago
lol. its called technology. a viper ACR would eat up a z06. regular corvettes are for old guys trying to be young.
stfu about the "turn off the electric stuff" crap. its a different car, its a performance car u can take around town.
GTR is a better all around car.
4 seats, automatic, can handle in the rain or snow and able to get perfect launches everytime.
donisthabomb1 3 years ago
yeah it's also called a zr-1. The z06 has beat the viper at every comparision even back 2001. corvette z06 has always been a excellent track car and the zr- is just amazing.
drhymes1 3 years ago
its zr1 not zr-1.
the zr-1s are from the 90s
donisthabomb1 3 years ago
rather have a vette than a new skyline
new skyline ugly old skyline better looking
chevy for lif corvette for life
corvette owns so sick sounds sick
i love u corvette
Doin1tUp 3 years ago
In conclusion they praise the vette so much because they never knew about the gtr on other side of the world. I completely understand why they love the vette more than gtr but the bottom line is that gtr would top the z06 and gtr35 vspec will spank the z06/zr1
thebestman 3 years ago
when you drive either one, talk all that you want, but chances are you havent even driven a gtr35 or z06. forget a zr1 or vspec. I on the other hand have DRIVEN a c6z06 HARD and have been in an lp640 DRIVEN HARD, and let me tell you... the z06 isn't that far off. not bad for the naturally aspirated pushrod V8 that you can so easily talk down... and yea maybe the vspec MIGHT be able to beat the zr1. until multiple runs have been done with both cars on the nurbugring SHUT UP
05ls2goat 3 years ago
and that was to "thebestman" with the worst comments.
05ls2goat 3 years ago
gtr35 is not here yet, so when it is here i will smoke the vettes in 2009. i have driver vettes already i do not like them at all.
thebestman 3 years ago
the gtr is here... i just talked to the owner of one two days ago. it was in blacksburg virginia right outside of virginia tech. the guy said he was on a waiting list for seven months. and ya wanna hear something funny about the whole thing? he said he wasn't that impressed so far. i thought it looked really cool, personally, but his complaint was that driving it simply wasnt that fun... now i think going fast in anything is fun, but i guess its just not everything its cracked out to be?????
05ls2goat 3 years ago
Yes, these American people lived all their lives surrounded by the vette and never saw the other car like GTR 35 on other side of the world in Japan. I have driven and saw a live z06, its good and fast but when compared to gtr35, I would ride in a skyline rather than the vette. talk/stats are cheap Here is the cold fact, these Americans never saw and touch a skyline gtr35 ever in their life time maybe in 2009, probably played in video but that does not count.
thebestman 3 years ago
"why doesn't vette use smaller engines?"
he has a good point there. because American car company believe in the theory that bigger engine or bigger balls are better but they have been proven wrong over, over, and over again by the gtr35. "cylinder volume" more fats to the vette. u fucking ignorant is the correct terms you used for American cars.
thebestman 3 years ago
I've driven Geigers Supercharged C6 and it's one of the harshest rides I've ever driven. Even stock Carrera S is more fun to drive. Let alone modded 997 Trubo I've tested last weekend at Hockenheim. :)
Symbrio 3 years ago
Ignorant??? Ha, for less money, you get a car that preformes faster and is more high tech than Vette. So what if turbos are there, why doesn't vette use smaller engines? GTR is better car in every way, and its a 4 seater (although small, still useable) and manages to destroy Chevys legend. You can talk all you want, facts are facts. z06 is slower, lower tech and slightly more expencive. Watch zr1 burns when V-Spec comes around. :) Have a nice day...
Symbrio 3 years ago